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Friday, September 30, 2016

Halloween Ball

Has anybody heard any specifics about this years Halloween ball at town hall? The first one was spectacular, but last year's was rather ho-hum. Who is in charge of it this year? Have they booked any entertainment this time?
8:47 pm edt 

Re: Pathetic

To Pathetic, I love your truth and agree with much of it. Just don't complain about everyone else's truth. I am not entitled and certainly not wealthy but unfair administering of rules and regs is very important to Americans...ever hear of discrimination?
8:45 pm edt 

Re: Pathetic
 

"To the person that thinks town politics is boooooooooring compared to national politics, please start a Provincetown national politics page and post all you want there."
 

I'll post where it is most needed...this is not a political blog, it is endless whining by a small group of petty, vindictive and judgmental provincials. The rest of the world couldn't give a nnnn  less about your miniscule little problems, your over-the-top yet non-existent conspiracies, and your self-entitlement.  Most of the town is sick to death of your constant wailing and moaning.  Just because you don't like my truth, that doesn't make it any less valuable, and I shall post it where I feel it is most appropriate to me, and to other folks in town who are tired of your bad attitudes.

4:23 pm edt 

Re: A Question for the Zoning Board of Appeals

If It's Only for appeals, why Did some Restaurants need to go Before Zoning for a change of Seating

This does not appear to be an "appeal" as you state. Why would a change in seating or a change in ownership require Zoning but not what someone stated as a large enough development of seven buildings and multiple units?

It's a regulatory board so wouldn't it regulate developments?
3:08 pm edt 

Re: A Question for the Zoning Board of Appeals
 
"Why is it that Zoning is not giving these proposed seven buildings and proposed thirteen family units any consideration? Why will seven buildings be built without any oversight of Zoning and without any exact architectural plans and exact elevations?"                                              
 
 
Did the Abutter State that It Was Only conceptual Plans Presented to the Planning Board?

Would you know exact height and density from sketches, as was stated? Wouldn't an applicant need exact architectural plans in order for any board to know exact height, how many stories and setbacks?
11:02 am edt 

Re: A Question for the Zoning Board of Appeals

I'm not on the ZBA but I do understand their role. The plans they were looking at, and I don't know the particulars, presumably had an issue that was in violation of the local zoning laws. When they went for a permit, the Building Commissioner saw what they wanted, knew it was in violation of the bylaws and denied them the permit to do what they wanted to do. Recourse? ZBA.
 
Taken from the name of the board, the owners are "appealing" the building commissioners decision to the zoning board of appeals, looking to have her decision overturned and their project or change be allowed even though it's violating the bylaws.
 
Approval is sometimes given with certain stipulations. What's going on in your neighborhood may have no issues with the bylaws and may all be within the parameters of the law and therefore, the ZBA would not be involved. If the permit is denied for some reason, the proponents then would appeal their case to the ZBA.
11:00 am edt 

Re: Victor's

"He's now licensed for 55, but has more and has tables that aren't on the seating map.Where are those in charge who enforce the Boards approvals? How can this business get away with all this and others held to such scrutiny ?"


I can't answer that question and I haven't patronized victors in a couple of years because of his complete disregard for the town.
Two points:
One.  The last time I ate there was a party of approximately ten people.  As you walk in the front door, go all the way to the left past the bar as far as you can go.  They put our party of ten in that area all the way at the end.  When victors presented his plan for 55 seats to the Selectmen the table we sat at was not on the diagram.  He lied.

Two.  Take a look at some of his developments, including his restaurant.  Everyone I've noted has automated sprinklers buried in the mulch.  Pretty easy to see the copper tubing.  Properties do not have private wells, but use town water to supply their automated sprinkler system, in violation of town water regulations.  See the restaurant property, see the property he developed at Bradford and Brewster.

Why doesn't the town take enforcement action?  I can't tell you that.  But, I can tell you this man will do whatever he can to make a buck.  The Town be damned.
10:56 am edt 

Re: A Question for the Zoning Board of Appeals

 

"350 Bradford & Zoning"


What he's proposed to build at 350 Bradford is what's allowed under zoning, so he doesn't need to go to the Zoning Board of Appeals. It meets all the height, setback, and density required by the zoning by-laws.

The dormer case you describe was someone asking to change something that doesn't comply with zoning.

If you don't like what he's being allowed to build, advocate for changing the zoning. I'm sure the Planning Board would welcome your ideas and support to pass zoning changes at Town Meeting.

10:47 am edt 

Thursday, September 29, 2016

Re: Just as Bad if Not Worse - Money Rules
 
"And to the person who thinks a CVS is worse then a naked drag theater that closes at 4am...no, I'm not sorry about that at all."  
 
Naked drag theater open till 4 AM???

What town are you in?  I thought all the clubs closed @ 1AM.  Maybe I'm not getting invited to the secret nightclub/theater after parties like you must be.
3:50 pm edt 

A Question for the Zoning Board of Appeals

I just watched the September 15, 2016 Zoning Board meeting with Robert Littlefield, Jeffrey Haley, David Nicolau, Joe Vasta and Jeffrey Gould. They spent one hour and twenty minutes dealing with the revisiting of a revised plans for one dormer. They spent much time dealing with calculations and whether the dormer was more than 50% of the roof and then dealt with kneewalls. They even had Illana Quirk citing case law on this one case that again was a revisiting of a case.

They, as Zoning Board members, were in the midst of details and minutia of the by-laws. I have no problem with such consideration.

But here is my question. I am an abutter to 350 Bradford and to the development at the old Michael Shay's property.

Why is it that Zoning is not giving these proposed seven buildings and proposed thirteen family units any consideration? Why will seven buildings be built without any oversight of Zoning and without any exact architectural plans and exact elevations?

If the height of one dormer is so important--and I am not doubting that it is--how could seven buildings with only conceptual plans, sketches of what will be, be allowed to be built without going before this well-informed board?

Zoning would not have allowed this one applicant to present aspirational plans on his dormer--so why aren't they ruling on this development at 350 Bradford Street?

I do believe that town by-laws require that this development go before Zoning and gain their approval before they build these seven buildings. Why hasn't this happened? Are they being treated differently than this one man with his dormer?

So maybe Joe Vasta or Bob Littlefield or Jeff Haley can explain to me how such a big development right next to my property can only have Planning Board Site Plan Review?

If you're going to go into such details on our Zoning by-laws for one dormer, how can you not rule on a major development with seven buildings and questionable height and stories? It seems a contradiction and it leaves me confused. But maybe someone on Zoning can explain this to me.

Yes, dormers and their size are important and need regulation but what about seven buildings and thirteen family units whose height is unclear and whose plans are sketches and whose engineering is simply preliminary.

Isn't Zoning the enforcer of Zoning by-laws? I would appreciate an answer.
3:47 pm edt 

Re: Seems Like the Trump Snortings Have Relevance Here

Many Make Promises

some get penalized; others do not. some are held to extremely high standards; others are not.

It depends on who your snorting!
3:42 pm edt 

Re: Seems Like the Trump Snortings Have Relevance Here

"All snortings are local. Very local, indeed!"
 
That is a good Line
10:21 am edt 

Re: Victor's

"He went back on his pledge to be year-round and got away with it.  He has illegal seats and the BOS let him get away with it."

Victor's isn't the only one.  Most go in front of ours town boards to request licenses, permits and exemptions, waxing great promises of how they're going to give employment year round to townspeople, and be open year round.  They already know from the get go that what they're spewing is BS.

The Art House, the Lobster Pot, Purple Feather...and the list goes on.  The only ones that have actually increased their business hours is Spiritus, which now opens up to late fall, instead of from the beginning the beginning of November.

I'm not condoning their closing, if they can't drum up business.  I condone their BSing our town boards with what they want to hear, while never intending to stay open year round.
9:36 am edt 

Re: Victor's

Someone really does not like Victor. I am sure that stabbing your husband in an attempt to kill him pretty much did Victor in for good. Let it go. Open up your own restaurant so that the rest of us can hate on you.
8:41 am edt 

Re: Victor's
 
"He's now licensed for 55, but has more and has tables that aren't on the seating map."

Where are those in charge who enforce the Boards approvals? How can this business get away with all this and others held to such scrutiny ?
8:39 am edt 

Re: Seems Like the Trump Snortings Have Relevance Here

No, My Dear Friend, All Snortings are Local Yes, he Donald and then the----oh, ah, well, I just won't name names but...yes, you know who you are and so do we. Again, all snortings are local! and don't you know who you are!!!
 
8:35 am edt 

Re: Victor's

Why do you keep referring to long time town employee? Why not just say who it is by making the position statement without mentioning the individuals name. Why are we always reading posts that act like guessing games.

8:33 am edt 

Just as Bad if Not Worse - Money Rules

Hey! I thought the routing out of Sharon Lynn was supposed to get rid of all the cabal-type happenings in Provincetown. Huh. Guess the corruption ran deeper then Sharon. Guess as soon as 'they' got her ousted the new (real) cabal set up right behind her.

The great old days of Provincetown, like my older artist friends reminiscence about, are long gone. And even then, there were battles between the gays and straights. Now money talks, has talked for the last 15 years. Really, it's like that all over the country.

And to the person who thinks a CVS is worse then a naked drag theater that closes at 4am...no, I'm not sorry about that at all.
8:32 am edt 

Re: Sal's Place
 
Cannot even begin to think of what that Women has been through because of the corrupt actions of this town. I hope she prevails and those that caused her this great injustice pay for their ill doings.
8:26 am edt 

Wednesday, September 28, 2016

Seems Like the Trump Snortings Have Relevance Here

Sorry to say, it is not only Trump who is snorting during his presentations, others we know are too! Welcome to the other side of this town.
12:44 pm edt 

Re: Pathetic

To the person that thinks town politics is boooooooooring compared to national politics, please start a Provincetown national politics page and post all you want there.
12:41 pm edt 

Re: Pathetic
 
"To look at this page, one would think that nothing is going on in the world beyond one town's petty squabbles...get your heads out of your asses and look around!  There's an election coming up, demonstrations in several cities because cops are shooting black people, spree killers showing up in the news every week, 200 tribes fighting to prevent Big Oil from polluting their clean water, and much more.  Learn about some of that stuff an what you can do to help, and quit the belly-aching and back-stabbing....boooooooorrrring!!" 


"All politics is local."
8:46 am edt 

Re: Victor's

Long time employee - you referenced him so your conspiracy theory must have him as a male.  Can't think of one town employee who would bend the rules for Victor.  But I can tell you Victor will bend, break any rule he thinks he can get away with.   He went back on his pledge to be year-round and got away with it.  He has illegal seats and the BOS let him get away with it.  He's now licensed for 55, but has more and has tables that aren't on the seating map. 
8:40 am edt 

Re: Victor's and

 

Bottom line- this man has been protected by a Provincetown employee for years- many who have been here for a long while all know this. His restaurant that promised to be open during the winter "not" his restaurant that was originally licensed with 33 seats"not"/ had 55 immediately( i can attest as I was an insider)/ parking issue - big "pull the wool over their eyes"  then the BOS granted him his request for 55 amist damning evidence he had that many seats all the while and many should up to the selectmen meeting to voice their dismay- to no avail - of course- because his "friend"  aka Long Time Provincetown Employee -made sure the BOS approved him. Then there was alot to do with growth management in I believe 2015 where his "friend" aka Long Time Provincetown Employee  made sure to see that it was made evident during a Selectmen meeting involving growth management knew he "may" sue if he didnt get his way on developement on bradford st. (160-164) - Selectman caved in and granted him all the growth he wanted. Based on what ? Based on what other than a threatened lawsuit. I have heard it was all based on hogwash. I say- the true bully is "victor's friend/long time town employee". I say he is the one who should answer these questions. This town is tired of this cronyism. This town must end it. Oh - and Sal's Place. They were a very sad example of those who are not connected to a "friend aka Long Time Provincetown Employee.  Lastly- I believe in truth . I believe in justice . I believe this will all come to light.The truth will pervail Mr. long time Employee.

12:46 am edt 

Re: Victor's

"You got it - Knows the right PERSON in TOWN HALL."
 
Who is this right person? Help us to connect the dots. 
12:04 am edt 

Re: Victor's

"and after all Victor has put our town through, BOS decides to restrict the new parking spaces across from the restaurant to a 3 hour limit between 4pm and 10pm so that it can facilitate rotation of patrons for the restaurant and not benefit residents."

You got it - Knows the right PERSON in TOWN HALL.
12:01 am edt 

Tuesday, September 27, 2016

Pathetic

To look at this page, one would think that nothing is going on in the world beyond one town's petty squabbles...get your heads out of your asses and look around!  There's an election coming up, demonstrations in several cities because cops are shooting black people, spree killers showing up in the news every week, 200 tribes fighting to prevent Big Oil from polluting their clean water, and much more.  Learn about some of that stuff an what you can do to help, and quit the belly-aching and back-stabbing....boooooooorrrring!!
11:51 pm edt 

Re: Vincent Currier

Should Just shut up. He is ignorant and now supports Trump's madness. This is a sick man supporting a sick man. Aman who hates women and then is willing to publicly vote for this Hitler-like man.

You sicken me Vincent. I'll be glad when you decide to leave this town. It does not need your sick choices.

Bad enough to be for Hitler. but you publicly state it. You are a pathetic human being.
11:49 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Not Competent - Town ManagerOut of Touch

Seems to Me that Managing the Town is Not Simply About Connections

It is about doing the best for all of us. And I mean all of us. Not just friends, not just developers, not just the rich. Yet we get people here and give them authority and then they use their positions to benefits not the town---but key people in town; key developers in town.

This is not how a town thrives. This is not how a town becomes a wonderful place to be. All this, all that we have, all that we are, is given up for a few people's greed and profit.

This must stop. We deserve better. Much better than what we now have.
11:47 pm edt 

Starbucks at Aquarium Mall?

Is there really a Starbucks coming to the Aquarium Mall? These landlords are going to kill the local businesses if they start renting to chains like this, and that will kill the local character that brings people here in the first place.
11:45 pm edt 

Re: Victor's

And after all Victor has put our town through, BOS decides to restrict the new parking spaces across from the restaurant to a 3 hour limit between 4pm and 10pm so that it can facilitate rotation of patrons for the restaurant and not benefit residents.
11:43 pm edt 

Re: Sal's

Looking For More Forthcoming Revealing Documentation
11:01 pm edt 

CVS

I welcome CVS! Provincetown administration and town boards are the most corrupt I've ever encountered, especially when it comes to their "townie" friends. I hope CVS brings their money, and it costs the town a fortune to fight them in legal fees, all whilst the local "townies" go into meltdown! #dontyawishyoudapprovedatheaternow
12:20 pm edt 

Re: Victor's  Restaurant    

I Also remember a BOS meeting where he and his(Victor's) attorney made their case for increasing Victor's Restaurant seating from 33 to 55 seats. Problem was- he increased his seating to 55 almost immediately after opening. When asked by the BOS( and yes this is on tape and can be verified) he admitted he had already been operating illegally with 55 seats. What does the BOS do? Grant him his additional seating much to the chagrin of many outspoken public comments.  My quess. He knows the right person in town hall. Yes Person in singular.
12:14 pm edt 

Re: Victor's

Victor also didnt put in compliant handicap parking spaces untill he was more or less forced to by the Zoneing Board. He was told they would not grant permission for his illegal seats untill he did. But he had his personal parking space in a spot very near the front door. I wonder if he ever really complied.
 
A Rat In The Basement
12:13 pm edt 

Re: Town Manager is Totally Out of Touch

The town manager talks a good talk and the five cucumbers we have as selectmen eat it up.  As a result we get lots of surveys and data from consultants, occasional visitors from Boston and it all looks good.  Things are really going to happen.

But nothing really changes and nothing gets done.
12:11 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Not Competent

At the risk of being skewered on fb I will once again say that the "temporary" barriers in front of Tedeschi's are a really stupid idea. They have been in place going on 2 months now and I have yet to see anyone studying traffic patterns. The geniuses on planning and our busy body planner came up with this idea without an end game. Get the f...... things off of Bradford Street now. The BOS need to intervene here, without Mr Happy Fingers Yingling, and force them to go.
12:09 pm edt 

Re: Victor's

And I remember when Victor told planning that he had off site parking as required at the time. He said yes. No one asked where and he was free and clear. Come to find out his off site parking was anywhere you could find a space on the street. Not to mention his over seating or the height violation. This enterprise has been a totally toxic relationship with the town. Please, let me know if I'm wrong.
12:07 pm edt 

Monday, September 26, 2016

Re: Victor's

 

"Victors,  yes it is true The Red Inn is managing Victors and it's liquor license 

It is Not True! The Red Inn is not operating nor do they have any interest in owning Victor's. I received this information directly from one of the owners of the Red Inn. 

10:47 am edt 

Re: Victor's

"Victors,  yes it is true The Red Inn is managing Victors and it's liquor license." 

I remember when Victors told the zoning board they would be open all year so they would grant the building permit....what a joke.   Show me what Victors has done for the community...
10:44 am edt 

Re: Town Manager is Totally Out of Touch

"Could Someone Please List the three Greatest Achievements of David Pangore?" 
 
1) He writes a wicked weather report, including parking restrictions as needed.

2) He wears bow ties to match his mood.

3) He can imagine Mark Hatch draped over a piana and keep down his lunch.

Who can top my list of three?
10:39 am edt 

Re: Town Manager is Totally Out of Touch

The Town Manager doesn't have a problem with the town planner what does that mean. He doesn't have a problem with the chief of police either and we all know what he's about                       .
10:36 am edt 

Sunday, September 25, 2016

Re: Town Manager is Totally Out of Touch

We Have A Town Barker, a Town Promoter

and this is fine if you are cheering on tourism. But to find this as the main role of town manager, then that is problematic.

Time to manage, instead of being a circus barker. Time to lead, instead of protecting morally corrupt town employees. Time to inspire, instead of sitting in an office and thinking about who to delegate the problems.
11:48 am edt 

Inquiry 

Hey Clarence,
Why wasn't my post in support of the town planner posted? From about two days ago. Thanks.
 

11:47 am edt 

Re: Affordable Housing Rip Off

Front page story about Stable path Cape Cod Times

Stable Path was the front page story. However, why are the citizens of Provincetown who have lived here for decades left out of the process while relative new comers get first place?

As a taxpayer, I'm extremely perturbed that my decades long neighbors and people whom I acquainted with aren't getting the housing that should rightfully go to them.

Ted Malone has built affordable housing for decades. Some of it "ages out" of affordable housing and it then goes Market Rate.

How does the Town allow this to happen? Michele J. gets $100,000.00 a year as our "Housing Specialist" and she says that it is too hard to keep track because some of the units become market rate each year.

We taxpayers have been suckers. WE have given millions to affordable housing..and the returns are that anyone can live in them.

It is time to end the lavish wealth given to developers over decades
11:45 am edt 

Victor's - Red Inn

If it is true that the Red Inn is running Victor's one has to question their common sense and ethic.

11:41 am edt 

Sal's Place - A Metaphor

I Get It--what Happened and apparently is still happening to Sal's Place is a metaphor for this town and how some establishments are handled and treated. Some get a pass; others suffer over-regulation and are forced to attend zoning, conservation when it appears not to be necessary. I get it. It is not a complaint simply about one restaurant but a mirror reflecting how this town and town hall can and often "works."
11:38 am edt 

Re: Town Manager is Totally Out of Touch

Could Someone Please List the three Greatest Achievements of David Pangore?

He has been here for over a year. What do some of you think is his greatest achievements? What do you think he has done well? How has he best helped this wonderful town?

I appreciate hearing from you.
11:36 am edt 

Re: Town Manager is Totally Out of Touch

Can't we Have Serious and Competent Management?

why does everything here seem so complicated? why aren't the rules and by-laws followed? Why do those at town hall decide on their own what to do and to whom?

Time for a change. Time for good and fair management.

We deserve better.
11:33 am edt 

Re: Victor Depaulo - What's up

Support who You Want to support

and everyone has the right, without judgment, to dine at Victor's. One can separate the place from the allegations and it is important that we are dealing with allegations.

It is tragic but it is a town business open to all
11:25 am edt 

Friday, September 23, 2016

Re: Victor Depaulo - What's up?

"I stopped going there [to Victors] when he started his destruction on West Vine, which still continues."

We stopped going even earlier, when he failed to keep his word about staying open in the winter, in exchange for which the town had given him breaks on parking spaces, etc.
1:04 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Not Competent

Ok, if there are supporters out there, can someone tell me of the projects that have been a success under her guidance? We can all point fingers to what she did wrong but what has she done right? If the pros and cons can't be balanced, there's a problem. Too many cons and she has to go.
8:50 am edt 

Re: Town Planner - Not Competent

The town manager has no problem with the town planner.   That's good enough for me.  The writer of all the attacks is just jealous of the town planner.
8:47 am edt 

Re: Town Planner - Not Competent

The town planner must stay

She is literally the only person in town hall you can go talk to and get a straight answer about anything. Without her it's impossible to meet with someone and actually walk away with a plan of action. She doesn't let petty, short-sighted feuds and egos get in the way of looking at the big picture. She loves the town, wants nothing but the best for us, and she does her best -- in a very competent, fair way -- to help good things happen.

Those of you saying Maxine did a great job seem to think the town planner as the same job that Maxine had? That shows how you don't really know what you're talking about.
8:46 am edt 

Re: Victor Depaulo - What's up?

I was wondering about Victor's restaurant and tourists going there who do not know the story. Then I recently saw 2 long time locals going into the restaurant. Why would anyone eat there, or work there, knowing he tried to murder his husband? I stopped going there when he started his destruction on West Vine, which still continues.
8:43 am edt 

Re: Town Manager is Totally Out of Touch

"The advertising for First light is horrendous- how embarrassing for the organizers of First Light, shows how out of touch town manager is."


Here's one I agree with, don't advertise for the current year using last year's ads and dates.  It does look inept.
8:41 am edt 

Thursday, September 22, 2016

Re: Town Manager is Totally Out of Touch

The Town Manager is constantly hiding behind his staff. What does he do all  day besides posting on Face Book.
 
He is more like a Town Booster than a leader. 
12:09 pm edt 

Town Manager is Totally Out of Touch

The advertising for First light is horrendous- how embarrassing for the organizers of First Light, shows how out of touch town manager is.
12:04 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Not Competent

"1) Why do you care about a degree?  How does it matter?  Lots of disbarred lawyers have degrees.
2) Every town gets sued all the time by developers who use this as part of the game.  Nothing unusual.
3) Combative or adversarial?
4)365 is a subversive group? Really?"
 
1. The Public Advertisement  for the position required a degree. This was the standard by which all applicants were rated. As for your comment about disbarred lawyers it is best that I not render my thoughts to print, it would be impolite.
 
2. The  issue has great relevance, when the cause of the law suits are due to the incompetency and maleficence of the Town  Planner. I refer you to the HDC meeting of September  21, 2016. You can see for yourself on PTV.
 
3. She has a very combative relationship with the ZBA and HDC. Further to the point, it was revealed during the HDC meeting of September 21, 2016, that the HDC as a board has filed a formal legal complaint against her, expressing a complete loss of confidence, and demand her removal as staff liaison. Office staff downstairs at town hall find her extremely disruptive and vulgar and most developers find her biased and difficult. She has made Provincetown a very unfriendly place for new business startups.
 
4. 365 is not subversive. However, the Town Planners attempt to throttle the will of the Town Manager and BOS her superiors  through 365 is subversive
 
I am certain that others can contribute to this list. She must go!
11:50 am edt 

Re: Town Planner - Not Competent

"Her lacking a degree in Urban Planning is not an opinion. It's a fact!
Her actions resulting in law suits against the town is not an opinion. It's a fact!
Her combative relationships with various board Chairmen as seen on PTV is not an opinion. It's a fact!
Her attempt to subvert the BOS/Town Manager through the establishment of the 365 group is not an opinion. It's a fact!............etc etc. "


1) Why do you care about a degree?  How does it matter?  Lots of disbarred lawyers have degrees.
2) Every town gets sued all the time by developers who use this as part of the game.  Nothing unusual.
3) Combative or adversarial?
4)365 is a subversive group? Really?
11:06 am edt 

Re: Town Planner - Not Competent

My list of things the Town Planner has really screwed up:

1. Pissed off business owners all along Shank Painter in an attempt to add planters in front of driveways.
2. Put so many roadblocks in front of development of Michael Shay's property that we now have another Old Reliable Restaurant in town.
3. Put those stupid plastic barriers in front of Tedeschi's, that one was pure genius.
4. Messed with the new owners of Sal's

Why do we need this person. Maxine was amazing and knew what the hell she was doing. Do not renew her contract and save us money.
11:02 am edt 

Wednesday, September 21, 2016

Re: Town Planner - Not Competent

Thanks for the list. there's much there to Ponder

this is not casual. The list of "thinigs wrong" with McPherson need to be looked at. She is, it appears, in short, a problem child.
12:08 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place

I heard that at last nights Conservation Commission meeting, it was announced during public statements that the Town Planner is being personally sued by Sal's Place restaurant and that the town will also be sued.
10:19 am edt 

Re: Victor Depaulo - What's up?

What has happened to the Depaulo case? Wasn't it to be heard in early September?
9:51 am edt 

Re: CVS Coming?

Looking forward to CVS applying for permission to open at the Riley's t shirt shop. This should be a fun one to watch!
9:50 am edt 

Re: Town Planner - Not Competent

'This is a partial list generated in response to your request:


·        No Formal Degree in Urban Planning, which was a requirement for employment

·        Lacks any strategic planning skills, which is a core competency required of an Urban Planner (Big Picture)

·        Failure to demonstrate competency in her capacity as Town Planner to implement tactical implementation of developed programs (for which she is supposed to recommend)

·        Demonstrated sophomoric capacity to model e.g. she proposed using the Town of Amherst as Provincetowns template 

·        Failure to Produce the Local Comprehensive Plan, which was her first priority when hired

·        Inappropriate relationship with a Selectman, which potentially involves a conflict of interest

·        Not recusing  herself in matters where she had a contractual conflict of interest

·        Never declaring her potential conflicts of interest

·        Opposing the Board of Selectmen (to whom she is subordinate) in favor of developers e.g. 350 Bradford Street 40B application

·        Applied  for Assistant Town Administrator for Wellfleet after having accepted employment in Provincetown only a few months earlier (they were wise  not selected)

·        Injecting herself in matters beyond her purview e.g. conservation, historic district, health department , zoning

·        Creation of the 365 Group to Supersede the Authority of the BOS/Town Manager

·        Used town resources to promote her 365 Group creation

·        Attempting to assume the leadership of town management through the lack of any intersession on the part of the Town Manager, who appears to be quite disengaged

·        Continually attempts to overrule the Fire Chief in matters of safety on behalf of developers

·        Using the Planning Board to supersede the mandated authority of the Zoning Board of Appeals

·        Failure to provide support services to the various boards (refusal to assume the role of support staff)  as opposed to attempting to assume leadership e.g. constant clashes with the Zoning board of appeals and Historic District Commission

·        Initiated deleterious actions, which have brought about legal actions against the town

·        Failure to timely notify boards of matters of importance

·        750 cubic yard limitation, with no reasonable substantiation as to the need for the change

·        Shank Painter Curb Cut traffic planning fiasco

·        Shank Painter Bike Shop (Stop Work Order)

·        Tedeschis Curb Cut fiasco (Stop Work Order)

·        Street Lighting Over regulation Proposal

·        Practices selective enforcement of regulations e.g. Sals Place, Yolk, 99 Bradford Street Units 1,2 and 3 (Construction with no Permits), Crown and Anchor, Joon Bar, Strangers and Saints, Spindler's etc.

·        Demonstrated acute favoritism for specific developers and contractors

·        Recommends the use of specific designers to building applicants'

 
What you call facts others may call opinion.  Is 365 a subversive group.  Are you Joe McCarthy?  What you call a fiasco others may call good work looking out for us.

You seem to think that she has all this power but she has none without the support of BOS and TM.  Who says that she needs a degree.  Only competence.  This list has a couple of "facts"  Mostly BS.  Want an example of the BS? "Initiated deleterious actions, which have brought about legal actions against the town".  Deleterious?  In whose opinion?  Oh!  Yours.  Got it.  Towns get sued all the time.  Donald Trump sues everybody who ever gets in his way.  This is what developers and others who can afford it do to get their way.

9:47 am edt 

Re: Sal's Place

I too was glad to see Sal's Restaurant finally open &'sorry to see it close so soon! My guess,under their late seasonal allowance to open,local staff had to find other employment,so for the remainder of the season,the owner,in order to satisfy her license,had to open. She brought her Boston staff from her other Boston business to work here & let them stay in her upstairs Condos,which then couldn't be rented for addt'l income! THis town did them a terrible disservice in attempt of closing them forever!! The owners under unjust circumstances for their survival, did their best to do what they had to do! EVeryone that ate there loved them,their super food ,for how they were forced to comply! Congrats to them all! Hopefully next year will better! This is my opinion by observation!
9:45 am edt 

Re: Town Planner - Not Competent

"Her lacking a degree in Urban Planning is not an opinion. It's a fact!"

It may or may not be a fact, I haven't seen her resume.  But it's your opinion that it matters.   Many, many professionals have a degree in something other than their field of work.  They became experts in their field by years of experience in their field. Etc., etc.

What is a fact is that you personally don't like her.  She's not my favorite person in the world, but that doesn't matter, I'm not about to go on attack against her. 

Town staff shouldn't be a voodoo doll for you or anyone else.  They are human beings and deserve to be treated with respect.
9:43 am edt 

Re: Town Planner - Not Competent
                                         

"So much written against the town planner was merely one person's OPINION.  With the exception of the inappropriate relationship with a selectman, the rest are opinions."
 
Her lacking a degree in Urban Planning is not an opinion. It's a fact!
Her actions resulting in law suits against the town is not an opinion. It's a fact!
Her combative relationships with various board Chairmen as seen on PTV is not an opinion. It's a fact!
Her attempt to subvert the BOS/Town Manager through the establishment of the 365 group is not an opinion. It's a fact!............etc etc.  
 
7:50 am edt 

Tuesday, September 20, 2016

Re: VSB Bully

I've heard the VSB bully is being looked at for some violations of federal laws by two government agencies. He should probably start cleaning up his own act instead of trashing others
10:26 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Not Competent

"the discussion in town hall, especially when she'd call her girlfriend and talk about her boyfriend when everyone in the basement offices could hear everything. .  ."

I don't think she much cared what others think.  She's an independent soul.
10:22 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Not Competent

So much written against the town planner was merely one person's OPINION.  With the exception of the inappropriate relationship with a selectman, the rest are opinions.

I will say the relationship was quite the discussion in town hall, especially when she'd call her girlfriend and talk about her boyfriend when everyone in the basement offices could hear everything.  The basement staff once started laughing when she talked about her boyfriend crying.   It was VERY awkward.
6:29 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place

"There's going to be a story about  why the owners of another restaurant in Provincetown have decided to cut their losses, cater only to seasonal folks, and shut their restaurant down right after labor day? Why would the Washington Examiner write about that?"
 
Why don't you ask the owners of 99 Commercial Street Units 2 & 3? Perhaps they will tell you. 
12:54 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place

"The word is out that the real story will be out in the Washington Examiner."

There's going to be a story about why the owners of another restaurant in Provincetown have decided to cut their losses, cater only to seasonal folks, and shut their restaurant down right after labor day? Why would the Washington Examiner write about that?
12:47 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Not Competent
                                         
"Ok, now you can start a diatribe on me, but I seem to be ignorant of the "solid legitimate cases".  Could you please repost all those to which you refer.  Then Clarence can put your post up with all the others on top and we will not have to doubt you again."
 
This is a partial list generated in response to your request: 
 

·        No Formal Degree in Urban Planning, which was a requirement for employment

·        Lacks any strategic planning skills, which is a core competency required of an Urban Planner (Big Picture)

·        Failure to demonstrate competency in her capacity as Town Planner to implement tactical implementation of developed programs (for which she is supposed to recommend)

·        Demonstrated sophomoric capacity to model e.g. she proposed using the Town of Amherst as Provincetown’s template  

·        Failure to Produce the Local Comprehensive Plan, which was her first priority when hired

·        Inappropriate relationship with a Selectman, which potentially involves a conflict of interest

·        Not recusing  herself in matters where she had a contractual conflict of interest

·        Never declaring her potential conflicts of interest

·        Opposing the Board of Selectmen (to whom she is subordinate) in favor of developers e.g. 350 Bradford Street 40B application

·        Applied  for Assistant Town Administrator for Wellfleet after having accepted employment in Provincetown only a few months earlier (they were wise – not selected)

·        Injecting herself in matters beyond her purview e.g. conservation, historic district, health department , zoning

·        Creation of the 365 Group to Supersede the Authority of the BOS/Town Manager

·        Used town resources to promote her 365 Group creation

·        Attempting to assume the leadership of town management through the lack of any intersession on the part of the Town Manager, who appears to be quite disengaged

·        Continually attempts to overrule the Fire Chief in matters of safety on behalf of developers

·        Using the Planning Board to supersede the mandated authority of the Zoning Board of Appeals

·        Failure to provide support services to the various boards (refusal to assume the role of support staff)  as opposed to attempting to assume leadership e.g. constant clashes with the Zoning board of appeals and Historic District Commission

·        Initiated deleterious actions, which have brought about legal actions against the town

·        Failure to timely notify boards of matters of importance

·        750 cubic yard limitation, with no reasonable substantiation as to the need for the change

·        Shank Painter Curb Cut traffic planning fiasco

·        Shank Painter Bike Shop (Stop Work Order)

·        Tedeschi’s Curb Cut fiasco (Stop Work Order)

·        Street Lighting Over regulation Proposal

·        Practices selective enforcement of regulations e.g. Sal’s Place, Yolk, 99 Bradford Street Units 1,2 and 3 (Construction with no Permits), Crown and Anchor, Joon Bar, Strangers and Saints, Spindler's etc.

·        Demonstrated acute favoritism for specific developers and contractors

·        Recommends the use of specific designers to building applicants

I'm sure others could supply many more. However, I think the above will suffice. 

 

12:40 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Not Competent

"I think many solid legitimate cases have been made. Perhaps you were not listening or chose to ignore the facts."


Ok, now you can start a diatribe on me, but I seem to be ignorant of the "solid legitimate cases".  Could you please repost all those to which you refer.  Then Clarence can put your post up with all the others on top and we will not have to doubt you again.
 
 
9:31 am edt 

Re: Town Planner

"Government Officials have been sniffing around town, heard it concerned the Town Planner. Any truth to this story?"

Oh, wow!!! What government?  I heard that they are investigating the conspiracy nuts that post this innuendo, Trump-like crap.  
9:28 am edt 

Re: Contact Question

"Do I have to write to the Governor?"

Give it try.  While you have him on the phone ask him where my social security check is.
8:24 am edt 

Monday, September 19, 2016

Re: Town Planner
 
"Government Officials have been sniffing around town, heard it concerned the Town Planner. Any truth to this story?"
 
GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS

Aren't they here to look into the legality of the workers here?
11:07 pm edt 

Re: Why is Beth Singer Still Here?

Dr. Singer is employed by the Town, so your suggestion that "a superintendent from Truro could cover For Provincetown" would required both BOS and School Committee approval. That would mean going to a meeting!

It's much easier to stay at home and complain than take action.

Just wait til November!
11:06 pm edt 

Re: Vincent Currier

My comment about Vincent C. was why he posts newspaper articles that anyone can read in the Banner on the same day. I would never deny someones' right to their own opinion. Are there copy rights associated with news media? Sorry you thought I wanted to deny peoples' rights..... I thought I was clear...Again, sorry!
11:05 pm edt 

Re: Vincent Currier

"I am no friend to Vincent C. That being said and to answer the question why does he post at all? Because it is his right to that's why! Who are any of you to tell a person or persons to keep their opinions and believes to themselves?!?!"

Seems to me you are a friend of Vincent's, or at least agree with his blatant misogyny and uninformed opinions. Be that as it may, you demand what right does anyone have to express an opinion regarding his ugly posts? To quote you: "Because it is his right to that's why!" Now go wrap up your garden hose and take a walk.
11:03 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

Government Officials have been sniffing around town, heard it concerned the Town Planner. Any truth to this story?
3:53 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place

"No outrage that your beloved Sal's is already closed for the season? And it has been for two weeks!! How's that for great atmosphere? Just like the old times? Yeah, right."
 
The word is out that the real story will be out in the Washington Examiner. "Yeah, right" 
3:09 pm edt 

Where is the Town Manager in All of This?

The VFW and Community Center Building need to be used now. The town was screwed out of a million dollars to buy the VFW. The Community Center is a disgrace that is falling apart. Come on Town Manager figure it out, it's not that difficult.
3:02 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place

No outrage that your beloved Sal's is already closed for the season? And it has been for two weeks!! How's that for great atmosphere? Just like the old times? Yeah, right.
2:59 pm edt 

Re: VSB Bully

VSB bully is at it again.

He's on the Town manager's page posting digs about the tourism director.  Gee, Mr         do you see any issue publicly trashing the tourism director when you work with him on the VSB?

Mr Murray is only concerned about advertising which directly benefits his business.

Is everybody afraid of him?  The other members of the VSB should publicly admonish him for his public criticism of the tourism staff.
2:58 pm edt 

Re: Josephine Del Deo

Time to thank Josephine Del Deo for Everything She Has Done

It was a wonderful celebration of her achievements at the Library Friday. We have much to be grateful for and all her work and energy to make certain these dunes remain as pristine as possible. she also helped to preserve the simple quality of many of our buildings and small cottages.

She knew she was going to receive this award and that makes the granting of it more memorable. Let us not forget her legacy. It is, in truth, ours.
2:55 pm edt 

Contact Question

NEED INFO TO CONTACT IMMIGRATION

I have tried to look up contacting immigration but can't find out how to contact them. Why is it so difficult? Do I have to write to the Governor?

2:54 pm edt 

Re: Vincent Currier

I am no friend to Vincent C. That being said and to answer the question why does he post at all? Because it is his right to that's why! Who are any of you to tell a person or persons to keep their opinions and believes to themselves?!?!  The liberal elite democrats in this town have become poison to this towns body, it has gotten so bad that they have the gall to openly speak out and chastise anybody who dares to express an idea, believe or opinion that differs from theirs and I for one am frigging sick of it!
2:52 pm edt 

Re: An Observation

Nice to Know We have A Historian of Mypacc

such is your calling, I presume!
2:51 pm edt 

Re: Josephine Del Deo

What a Wonderful Celebration for Josephine Del Deo's Celebration

It was warm, heart-felt and such a great celebration of all of us who love what she and Sal Del Deo have done for us.

The readings of Josephine's works was great. Sal's presence and his daughter and son added to the depth of emotion and gratefulness.

and yes we were there--we were present to applaud Josephine Del Deo's achievements and to say thank for everything she has done for Provincetown.

You have given us more than we could ever know. You fought battles that continue. You inspire us and we are grateful for all that you have done.

2:49 pm edt 

Re: Why is Beth Singer Still Here?

A superintendent from Truro could cover For Provincetown

We don't need a superintendent at $150,000 full time pay when there is no high school. We can regionalize on this one. and we wouldn't lose anything much. We would save money and still have a principal.

It is poor management. Over-spending that can be and should be cut.
2:46 pm edt 

An Observation

"Think someone so twisted lived among us"

Still lives there
2:45 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

"My Meeting with Gloria McPherson Reveal not Intelligence"


I thought that post was funny, too. Sounds like someone trying to sound uneducated or too busy using puppet metaphors to proof read.
2:40 pm edt 

Friday, September 16, 2016

Re: Vincent Currier

"Why does the person named Vincent Currier post entire article from the Banner every Thursday?"

Put another way, why does this person named Vincent Currier post at all?
8:25 am edt 

Thursday, September 15, 2016

Re: Town Planner

"She a shining example of "Hair on fire"! She is nuts! that is the plain and simple truth. and all she wants is control. If you don't mind being controlled and being one of her puppets, then you might find her agreeable. Too many strings with this one."

I, for one, recognize the language and puppet metaphors used by this writer (and I use the term loosely). Certainly, many others will recall the constant barrage from this blogger years ago: the Cabal, Sharon, Ann McQuire (haha), puppet this, control that, going on about minions overtaken by evil women and men, who live to subjugate the souls of the unsuspecting. It was funny for awhile, until the postings got so unhinged and misogynistic it was frightening to think someone so twisted lived among us. It appears the town planner is now the trigger for this crazy, and I'm not looking forward to this puppet show. Not at all. 
9:41 pm edt 

Re: Boatslip Incident

What's the details of the vehicle that drove down the stairs by the Boatslip
9:38 pm edt 

Provincetown Regatta

Sad to say But Let's Have a Real Regatta

forget about kowtowing to Gloucester to get five or six schooners here. Let's go back to having a real Regatta and let everyone dance away the night before and then the sail on a Saturday--a day most people can watch and then an honor's meal for the winners on Sunday.

It was great then and should be now. this Gloucester race is not fun for us here in Provincetown. it might be gret for a few people who "race" but it is a disaster for what once was.

Let's go back to a few years ago and let's do the Regatta. If the schooners come, they come, If they don't, who the heck cares. it was so much fun before.

Now it is dull and a non-event for most of us. Big deal that five or sic schooners came. Do most of us care?

We did before and we had so much fun.
9:35 pm edt 

An Observation

50, the new young in Provincetown!
9:33 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Finance Director

I thought I read here town hall wasn't hiring a finance director, but was going to hire a consultant instead.  Yet they are advertising in the Banner for a new finance director.

Someone was misinformed?
9:32 pm edt 

Re: Why is Beth Singer Still Here?
 
Dr. Singer is here because a superintendent is required by the Department of Education of the Commonwealth. Sharon Lynn, or any other town manager, cannot override this mandate. If Dr. Singer were to leave, the Town would be required to hire a new superintendent.
9:30 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

"She a shining example of "Hair on fire"!"

Example please.
9:28 pm edt 

Re: School Lawn Sculpture?

"To some it may look like a big rock but I'm sure it was very expensive".


HMMMM???

very expensive?  How much? WHp told you.  Is your name Donald?
9:26 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

"We get it, you didn't like her."

Comment refers to Sharon Lynn not planner. An observation was made and like usual on this blog someone replied with 'move on you just don't 'like' her. This blog used to have intelligent and articulate posters, but now all about liking or disliking the planner, or other employees. I liked Sharon Lynn, but she was not a good manager. Nothing to with liking her. I know a few that don't care for the planner, but aren't writing nasty, baseless posts about her job performance.
9:25 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

"We get it, you didn't like her."

Comment refers to Sharon Lynn not planner. An observation was made and like usual on this blog someone replied with 'move on you just don't 'like' her. This blog used to have intelligent and articulate posters, but now all about liking or disliking the planner, or other employees. I liked Sharon Lynn, but she was not a good manager. Nothing to [do] with liking her. I know a few that don't care for the planner, but aren't writing nasty, baseless posts about her job performance.
9:09 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

"My Meeting with Gloria McPherson Reveal not Intelligence"

I love this comment. Someone accuses the town planner of being unintelligent and scattered in a post written with poor grammar, spelling mistakes, misplaced pronouns, random spacing, and disorganized thoughts. Perfect. Proves a point, just not the one the writer was intending to prove! Thanks! 
9:05 pm edt 

Superfluous Publication

Why does the person named Vincent Currier post entire article from the Banner every Thursday? People can read the Banner themselves. Is he trying to cut the number of subscribers to the Banner? His posting just do not seem necessary.
 

1:31 pm edt 

School Lawn Sculpture?

I'm glad to see the "sculpture" has finally been placed on the school lawn.  To some it may look like a big rock but I'm sure it was very expensive and will add greatly to the education of the school children.  It will remind them of the Emperor's New Clothes. At Town Meeting we can ask for more money for a matching rock-I mean sculpture!
1:28 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

She a shining example of "Hair on fire"!

She is nuts! that is the plain and simple truth. and all she wants is control. If you don't mind being controlled and being one of her puppets, then you might find her agreeable.
 
Too many strings with this one.
1:27 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Why is Beth Singer Still Here?

Re "Town Planner:"
 
The Town Planner is  not doing what she was hired to do! Pure & Simple! It has nothing to do with her intelligence & personality

Re "High School:"
 
Most citizens are happy that the High School is still being used as a school! Any school for the need we have now! That's the only school we have for at least 100 students (give or take)!  We tore down or gave away all the schools we had! What is your problem? You must have gone to school but you sound like morons!!
1:25 pm edt 

Re: Why is Beth Singer Still Here?

"The superintendent was Hired by Sharon Lynn to close the High School and then Leave"

Is this another case of assassination and ignorance?  Does the School Committee hire the Super?
9:31 am edt 

Re: Town Planner

Personally with all of the interactions I have had for many years with the Building Departments personnel, the Town Planner is a shining example in this department. Even if it is all her fault.

I would suggest that those who deride her really don't have a thorough  understanding of all the workings of this department.

A Rat In The Basement
9:28 am edt 

Wednesday, September 14, 2016

Re: Town Planner

My Meeting with Gloria McPherson Reveal not Intelligence

but whackiness. And she is vindictive. and she has her favorites. and she has those she vehemently dislikes.

she is a poor planner and I find her scattered in your thinking and her approach.
10:35 pm edt 

Celebration in Honor of Josephine Del Deo

Glad that There is a Celebration in Honor of Josephine Del Deo Friday at 7 at the Library

   It is good that this town honors Josephine Del Deo's major contributions to Provincetown. She worked tirelessly to preserve the dunes and the dune shacks and also helped us have a Historic District. We now have regulations to help keep Provincetown historic and to keep the size of our buildings and the type of architecture fitting to our village past.

    We have much to thank her for. Let's raise our glasses to her this Friday!

10:34 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

All the negative talk about the Town Planner reminds me of something I have always remembered as a manager of people and projects. If you are doing your job, someone is not going to like you. I have observed this town planner since her first day on the job, met her for the first time at a new years party. Although we have had our disagreements, this person has been in the hotseat from the beginning, I think because she is young, attractive, and confident and very smart. She has contributed a lot to the town in so many positive aspects, in spite of the constant chatter and rumors started many times by nameless people on a local blog with small shortsighted concerns. Give this employee of our town some respect. She is open and willing to talk to anyone who has a concern. What she is NOT into is bullying and intimidation and nameless accusations from faceless cowards.
10:32 pm edt 

Why is Beth Singer Still Here?

The superintendent was Hired by Sharon Lynn to close the High School and then Leave

She has found many ways to stay and extend one contract after another.

We do not have a high school and we do not need the pretense that we do.

It is gone. there is no high school. Why is Beth Singer still here?
10:30 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

"We get it, you didn't like her."


Again,it's not about like or dislike. 
10:29 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch - David Panagore

I don't know about the town manager but the thought of Hatch draped over a piano does not conjure up an image of Marilyn Monroe. A stale mackerel is more like it.
10:27 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

"I think many solid legitimate cases have been made. Perhaps you were not listening or chose to ignore the facts."

Fine, but how about telling us just three or four of your idea of "many"
9:58 am edt 

Re: Town Planner

"I think many solid legitimate cases have been made. Perhaps you were not listening or chose to ignore the facts."


All I've read are a bunch of attacks based on rumors, unsubstantiated by facts from writers who don't know the entire story.  I don't know the Planner's work enough to form an opinion, but what I've read is a series of attacks which appear to be based on a personal dislike for the individual more than her professional work.
9:57 am edt 

Community Center Tree

Kinda like a death pool, lets guess dates on the day the tree will fall, on it's own, on the community center. From what I've been noticing over the past few months, it seems to be leaning more and more every week.

My guess, November 15, 2016.

Anyone else?
9:55 am edt 

Re: David Panagore

Mr. Panagore, Tear down this wall!!
9:54 am edt 

Re: Town Planner

I think the main reason some people don't like the Town Planner is because she is 10 times as smart as most (probably all) of those who sit on the various boards she works with, and it shows every time she opens her mouth at a meeting. 
9:53 am edt 

Tuesday, September 13, 2016

Re: Town Planner

"If you disagree with the Town Planner on an issue then make your case if you have one. Show some respect for yourself and others. The current series of bashing is bullying behavior and downright uncivilized."
 
I think many solid legitimate cases have been made. Perhaps you were not listening or chose to ignore the facts. 
 
But, ask the Town Planner if the State agrees with your opinion. Maybe she will  tell you
2:17 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

 
Enough with the Town Planner Witch hunt!

Seriously, STOP It's psychopathic

If you disagree with the Town Planner on an issue then make your case if you have one. Show some respect for yourself and others. The current series of bashing is bullying behavior and downright uncivilized.

It doesn't take long in actual conversation with the Planner to see she is highly intelligent, experienced and creative and definitely has a passion for Provincetown - we are lucky to have her here.

So STOP already. Thank you


2:10 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch - Town Manager

This is how the FinCom chair wishes the town manager a happy birthday.

" Happy Birthday Mr Panagore! (Make believe I'm draped on a piano, singing like Marilyn Monroe. Then I dare you to forget that image)."


Gross. Mark Hatch the stereotypical aging gay with way too much say in town
2:09 pm edt 

Re: of Provincetown Schools

Sorry but I just do not like the Superintendent of Provincetown Schools. I cannot believe she has extended her contract to another term. This                      has already pissed away all the renovations monies for the school and will come back again for more soon. Test scores suck and staff hate her. What the hell School Committee. You suck.
2:08 pm edt 

Re: Sharon Lynn

"Sharon Lynn didn't know how to hire or fire."

And you don't know when to let it go.
2:05 pm edt 

Re: Sharon Lynn

"Sharon Lynn didn't know how to hire or fire."

You're fixation on Sharon is unhealthy.  We get it, you didn't like her.  A great many of us who got to know her admired her.  Difference of opinion, time to move on.
2:04 pm edt 

Town Planner Position

Do we know what direction the Town Planner is taking us in as a community? What is the Master Plan and  what are the planning goals for the future of our town? Let's not keep saying to build more and more affordable housing. How much more undeveloped land is yet to be developed? I watch the meetings on tv and have even attended a few meetings as an abutter and from what I see the Town Planner position is quite similar to that of what the Notaro woman was doing. How much money is it costing us and do we need it. We seem to be top-heavy with management.
2:02 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place

I am so glad that Sal's Place Was
Finally Open

It was a wonderful culinary experience. The food was terrific and the service professional and the atmosphere warm and comforting while simultaneously being exciting. A great place that finally was open. Bravo!
2:01 pm edt 

Thursday, September 8, 2016

An Observation

Sharon Lynne didn't know how to hire or fire.
4:59 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

"Her removal was necessary to promote their agenda."

This is so TRUMPeting.  Say something without anything.  Please tell us what is/was her agenda.  
9:20 am edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

"It becomes patently obvious at this time, lacking a reasonable response, that the answer to the question of the Town Planner possessing a degree in City Planning is "NO".

Forget the masters she doesn't even have a BS in city Planning, which explains her lack of ability to properly, analyze, project, design and  assess programmatic effects based on a series of scenarios before leaping off the deep end. She has no parametric analysis capability. She is winging it; flying by the seat of her pants.

In actuality she is a bureaucratic apparatchik. used to implementing minor details after a program has been developed by a senior supervisor.

She is operating under false presentments, which is an HR actionable offense.

She should put up or get out, before serious damage is done based on her sophomoric decisions and  actions."


Wow elegantly stated.  But, to what end? This is not Boston or New York.  We are a tiny town that has essentially little planning needs.  Rather than get into silly arguments about the value of degrees etc.  we should be asking whether we really need a planner at all instead of these constant attacks on the person of the cuurent job holder.  
9:17 am edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

WHy does anyone think that a degree in a subject equates to expertise in that subject. A degree suggests that a person MAY have expertise, but does not guarantee that the knowledge gained during the degree education can be properly applied.  It speaks to nothing about personality or judgement. 

The ability to perform a job properly requires so very much more than simply having the appropriate letters afters the person's name.  So, try another argument to make your case.  Make the basis real criticism based on performance.  That is what matters.
9:15 am edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

She is only operating under false pretenses (I assume that is the word you were looking for) if she has put herself forward as having a degree in city planning and does not.

Presumably her qualifications or lack of qualifications are well known to the Board of Selectmen who interviewed her as well as the then Town Manager.

Find a different witch hunt.  This one is old.
9:14 am edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

I don't get the apparent vendetta by some against the town planner.  She never claimed to have a degree in city planning, who said she did?

These personal attacks are childish, but not unusual for Ptown.
9:12 am edt 

Monday, September 5, 2016


"Does the Town Planner have a degree in city Planning or not? What does it take to get an answer, which  the town  has every right to know?" 
 
It becomes patently obvious at this time, lacking a reasonable response, that the answer to the question of the Town Planner possessing a degree in City Planning is "NO".
 
Forget the masters she doesn't even have a BS in city Planning, which explains her lack of ability to properly, analyze, project, design and  assess programmatic effects based on a series of scenarios before leaping off the deep end. She has no parametric analysis capability. She is winging it; flying by the seat of her pants.
 
In actuality she is a bureaucratic apparatchik. used to implementing minor details after a program has been developed by a senior supervisor. 
 
She is operating under false presentments, which is an HR actionable offense.
 
She should put up or get out, before serious damage is done based on her sophomoric decisions and  actions. 
4:53 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

Does the Town Planner have a degree in city Planning or not? What does it take to get an answer, which  the town  has every right to know? 
3:36 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

"Re: Town Planner Education

University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Landscape Architecture and Regional Planning Graduate Programs
1997  2002"
 
This is not a degree it only means that some courses may have  been taken. It doesn't even mean that she completed the courses that she may have taken.

"The George Washington University
BA, French Language and Literature
1986  1989"
 
This is a degree, if this is what she obtained in actuality. 
2:59 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner Education

Education

University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Landscape Architecture and Regional Planning Graduate Programs
1997  2002

The George Washington University
BA, French Language and Literature
1986  1989
2:48 pm edt 

Re: Tedeschi's - Those Barriers are a Safety hazard

It is confusing driving in and out of Tedeschi's and then is backup and confusion as drivers try to figure out how to "ENTER" from Bradford when you are being directed to enter by w ay of Napi's Restaurant. It is ludicrous and dangerous.

Mike Travato to the rescue!!it appears to be a fire hazard as well as a safety hazard.

Let's hope something is done soon to make this a better area.

also, the barriers are so ugly, I wonder why Zoning would even allow this? Or again has zoning been by-passed by Planning? I can only hope Zoning wakes up and sees how they are being compromised by another board.
10:54 am edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

"The Town Manager does not intend to fill  the Finance Directors position. He will be using consulting services where needed. As for the Town Planner, her selection was a 'C'est fait accompli'."


There have been rumors of how the Planner got her job.  Are there any facts or just rumors?  I'm not going to judge her based on gossip.
10:52 am edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

                                         
"You can advertise all you want, we aren't a career destination.  We had to try three times before we hired Panagore.  There are a number of jobs where we only had one qualified applicant.  Finance director left a couple of months ago, we still haven't been able to find a replacement.  there are at least three other jobs that I've heard we only had one applicant.   Don't forget the  library director where it took a long time to fill the position."

The Town Manager does not intend to fill  the Finance Directors position. He will be using consulting services where needed. As for the Town Planner, her selection was a "C'est fait accompli".

 

8:23 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch - Town Manager

"Happy Birthday Mr Panagore! (Make believe I'm draped on a piano, singing like Marilyn Monroe. Then I dare you to forget that image)"

If true, that's kind of creepy.  Are hatch and Panagore dating?
12:16 am edt 

Sunday, September 4, 2016

Re: BOS - Five Cucumbers

It's time for the Five Cucumbers to Peel Away

and start to be more than vegetables. They sit; they grow older; they speak.

Time for the five Cucumbers to be responsible. Is this really too much to ask.
7:40 pm edt 

Re: Fall Town Meeting

No fall town meeting huh!

There is reason and one reason only for that and it's because that the articles the TM, Hatch and the BOS want passed for special interest groups have a better chance when more of a certain Demographic Is here in the spring. They know that the same old tired BS articles won't pass if the true year round residents vote on them! Go ahead tell me I'm wrong!!!
7:38 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

"town staff
You live here. You party here. You vacation here.  It is not a bad place, right? It remains desirable and we would have NO trouble hiring competent people, IF we advertise right and IF we interviewed right."


You can advertise all you want, we aren't a career destination.  We had to try three times before we hired Panagore.  There are a number of jobs where we only had one qualified applicant.  Finance director left a couple of months ago, we still haven't been able to find a replacement.  there are at least three other jobs that I've heard we only had one applicant.   Don't forget the  library director where it took a long time to fill the position.

7:36 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

How do you think she came to be in Provincetown? She had contacts here and was brought here to promote an agenda that was developed by the former Building Commissioner Russell Braun (developer), David Gardner and Selectman Yingling with the backing of the then BOS Chair, Tom Donegan thru his partner Mark Weinress.
 
The first thing they did was to work  to  remove Permit Coordinator Maxine Notaro.  Ms. Notaro was a highly respected,  brilliantly capable, ethical, experienced and dedicated town employee. Her removal was necessary to promote their agenda. Further to the point David Gardner was deeply compromised by his relationship with certain developers. this particular matter will  be a detailed topic for another day. And as for Yingling, his is a case all  unto itself. 
 
A review oh the Town Planner's actions will reveal her studied and continual attempt to neutralize the Zoning Board of Appeals, which is a government mandated regulatory agency empowered by both town charter and state law.
 
One of her first steps was to create a bogus limit of 750 cubic yards of soil modification, which in most development situations required a variance from the Planning Board, thus giving them the path way  to  inject themselves further into the development process.
 
These are only some  of the issues which will be further explored over time. She cannot  stand the light of day and will  be proven to  be a sham, ill  suited for our good town! 
 
And as a previous posting exclaimed, Cut the  BS if you  have the qualifications provide the minimal  requested information: Degrees, dates, awarding institutions. If not, leave of your own accord or face the  consequences of legal action.
 
This will  not go away! 
6:35 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct
 
"Do you have a clue how difficult it is to hire staff in Provincetown?  We are a dead-end destination.  Come work in Provincetown, we won't offer you that much in pay, you won't be able to find/afford housing and once you get here we'll constantly criticize and abuse you until you will take any job to get out.

Now that's a great recruiting message !
(sarcasm
)" 
 
No, this is Not Calais Maine
 
This is a wonderful place and many competent people would want to work here. It is about how we hire and advertise.

You live here. You party here. You vacation here.  It is not a bad place, right? It remains desirable and we would have NO trouble hiring competent people, IF we advertise right and IF we interviewed right.

Would anyone hire a town planner who was sleeping with a selectman other than those in this town? Really? Was that her qualifications? This is unprofessional and rather disgusting--BUT that is what happened here.


5:42 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch - Town Manager

This is how the FinCom chair wishes the town manager a happy birthday.

" Happy Birthday Mr Panagore! (Make believe I'm draped on a piano, singing like Marilyn Monroe. Then I dare you to forget that image)."
4:22 pm edt 

Mark Hatch - Town Manager

Hearing from a number of people uncomfortable with the close friendship between the town manager and the FinCom chair.  The five cucumbers don't have the capacity to manage the town manager and the FinCom chair is compromised so who is there?  Not suggesting anything is amiss, but there is nothing preventing it.
4:19 pm edt 

The Lobster Pot

The Lobster Pot is in the center of town, is owned by a Lesbian and there are 2 restaurants west of the coast guard station. You are an idiot.
4:18 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

Crazy Talk

I actually think the barriers make sense since there is no longer the gas filling stations on the property. You are crazy to think that it would be more safe to just let cars enter and exit as they wish. Maybe not the best solution but for the time being much better than a wide open space onto Bradford and Standish.
4:16 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place Saga Video

And why are we paying for TWO cops to stand in front of Sal's with their chubby arms folded and watch ... n o t h i n g   h a p p e n ?
4:14 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

"Neither her CV nor the Town Archives say that she has a degree in Town Planning. No degree, no year of issuance, no awarding....."


Do you have a clue how difficult it is to hire staff in Provincetown?  We are a dead-end destination.  Come work in Provincetown, we won't offer you that much in pay, you won't be able to find/afford housing and once you get here we'll constantly criticize and abuse you until you will take any job to get out.

Now that's a great recruiting message !
(sarcasm)
4:13 pm edt 

CVS Coming?

So the Riley's neighbors stopped them from opening a theater, and now we're going to get a CVS there instead. What tactics will they use to try to stop this deep-pocketed chain store?
4:11 pm edt 

Re: Lobster Pot

I'm sure the owner of the Lobster Pot will be surprised that she is straight.
4:09 pm edt 

Saturday, September 3, 2016

Sal's Place Saga Video

While I appreciate and have watched the Sal's video from August 30, 2016, a brief narrative outlining the players and immediate situation would be most helpful. Thanks.
10:16 am edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

"You can keep repeating your call on a blog all you want.  Or you can go to linked in and just read her CV which is on line.  Or you can find it in the Town Archives when she applied for the job.  But you won't do that, because fundamentally you really just like to hear yourself spew garbage."
 
Neither her CV nor the Town Archives say that she has a degree in Town Planning. No degree, no year of issuance, no awarding institution.
 
It's simple, if the statement is wrong, produce the evidence.
 
Cut the BS! 
8:51 am edt 

Re: Lobster Pot

You have to understand that the Pot is in the East End of town and the owner is straight. People flock to this place for good reason and it takes business away from the pretentious west end.
8:29 am edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

"We repeat our call for substantiation of the Town Planner's credentials:
 
Degrees, Years awarded, Name of Awarding Institutions."
 
 
You can keep repeating your call on a blog all you want.  Or you can go to linked in and just read her CV which is on line.  Or you can find it in the Town Archives when she applied for the job.  But you won't do that, because fundamentally you really just like to hear yourself spew garbage.
8:23 am edt 

Friday, September 2, 2016

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

We repeat our call for substantiation of the Town Planner's credentials:
 
Degrees, Years awarded, Name of Awarding Institutions.
 
Is the rumor correct. does the alleged investigation involve the Town Planner.
 
Why is the Town Manager silent on this issue? Where is  he? 
11:46 pm edt 

Re: Lobster Pot

Just watched the hearing (and by the way, the video from PTV sucks) and all I can say is it's bogus. They had an issue, mid season, late at night on a weekend and now they get a fine because some scummy rat called and complained? And someone that works there to boot??
How were they to call the board of health or the health inspector? How were they to keep their employees working and stay open during their busy season? And if they did call and wait for the health agent to show up, where do you think the sewage would go?

Tim handled the problem exactly right. He attacked the situation, stayed late to cleanup the mess, called the sewage removal people, had the pipe fixed, did what he could to remove the scent and was opened in the morning for business. And the lobsters? As Tim said, nobody knows if there was sewage in the tanks. The water was flushed as regular process, not to hide something.

And the "illegal" dumping of infectious waste at the dump? Thousands and thousands of bags of dog crap go to the dump every day and nobody says anything about that yet a little dirty sink water and the world goes to hell? Does the Board of Health or the Health Agent really know what they're talking about when it comes to sewage impacts? Dead animals, animal waste, road runoff, fish truck drippings etc.. All of it goes into the sand. And we're all still here.

What problem could 15 gallons of waste due to the environment and maybe 100 lbs of dirty sand? Good God.
11:12 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

Planning process participants continuously strive to achieve high standards of integrity and proficiency so that public respect for the planning process will be maintained.

Planning Process Participants should:

Exercise fair, honest and independent judgment in their roles as decision makers and advisors;

Make public disclosure of all "personal interests" they may have regarding any decision to be made in the planning process in which they serve, or are requested to serve, as advisor or decision maker.

Define "personal interest" broadly to include any actual or potential benefits or advantages that they, a spouse, family member or person living in their household might directly or indirectly obtain from a planning decision;

Abstain completely from direct or indirect participation as an advisor or decision maker in any matter in which they have a personal interest, and leave any chamber in which such a matter is under deliberation, unless their personal interest has been made a matter of public record;
 
their employer, if any, has given approval; and the public official, public agency or court with jurisdiction to rule on ethics matters has expressly authorized their participation;

Seek no gifts or favors, nor offer any, under circumstances in which it might reasonably be inferred that the gifts or favors were intended or expected to influence a participant's objectivity as an advisor or decision maker in the planning process;

Not participate as an advisor or decision maker on any plan or project in which they have previously participated as an advocate;

Serve as advocates only when the client's objectives are legal and consistent with the public interest
.

Not participate as an advocate on any aspect of a plan or program on which they have previously served as advisor or decision maker unless their role as advocate is authorized by applicable law, agency regulation, or ruling of an ethics officer or agency;
 
such participation as an advocate should be allowed only after prior disclosure to, and approval by, their affected client or employer; under no circumstance should such participation commence earlier than one year following termination of the role as advisor or decision maker;

Not use confidential information acquired in the course of their duties to further a personal interest;

Not disclose confidential information acquired in the course of their duties except when required by law, to prevent a clear violation of law or to prevent substantial injury to third persons; provided that disclosure in the latter two situations may not be made until after verification of the facts and issues involved and consultation with other planning process participants to obtain their separate opinions;

Not misrepresent facts or distort information for the purpose of achieving a desired outcome;

Not participate in any matter unless adequately prepared and sufficiently capacitated to render thorough and diligent service;

Respect the rights of all persons and not improperly discriminate against or harass others based on characteristics which are protected under civil rights laws and regulations.

11:05 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

APA members who are practicing planners continuously pursue improvement in their planning competence as well as in the development of peers and aspiring planners. They recognize that enhancement of planning as a profession leads to greater public respect for the planning process and thus serves the public interest.

APA Members who are practicing planners:

Strive to achieve high standards of professionalism, including certification, integrity, knowledge, and professional development consistent with the AICP Code of Ethics;

Do not commit a deliberately wrongful act which reflects adversely on planning as a profession or seek business by stating or implying that they are prepared, willing or able to influence decisions by improper means;

Participate in continuing professional education;
Contribute time and effort to groups lacking adequate planning resources and to voluntary professional activities;

Accurately represent their qualifications to practice planning as well as their education and affiliations;
Accurately represent the qualifications, views, and findings of colleagues;

Treat fairly and comment responsibly on the professional views of colleagues and members of other professions;
Share the results of experience and research which contribute to the body of planning knowledge;

Examine the applicability of planning theories, methods and standards to the facts and analysis of each particular situation and do not accept the applicability of a customary solution without first establishing its appropriateness to the situation;

Contribute time and information to the development of students, interns, beginning practitioners and other colleagues;
Strive to increase the opportunities for women and members of recognized minorities to become professional planners;

Systematically and critically analyze ethical issues in the practice of planning.

10:56 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Unethical Conduct

To: FILE A COMPLAINT OF MISCONDUCT, SEEK INFORMAL ADVICE, ACCESS ANNUAL REPORTS

All communications regarding specific ethics situations should occur either in letters or phone conversations with APA's Ethics Officer in his or her capacity as the ethics officer. Because of issues of reliability and confidentiality, email communication is not to be used.

Filing a complaint of misconduct. If you believe an AICP member has violated the AICP Code of Ethics and Professional conduct, consider submitting this AICP Ethical Conduct Complaint Form.
Seeking informal advice. Contact APAs Ethics Officer at 312-786-6360 if you would like to discuss a matter involving your own professional conduct or matters involving other planners.
10:44 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Buzz
 
"Town Hall is abuzz with talk about an investigation downstairs.....what's up?" 
 
Town Hall abuzz again?

Where is the rat?
1:06 pm edt 

RE: Charter Commission Group

"You Should Watch the last Charter Commission Group"


Yes everyone should watch them. It seems like they're a group of vindictive people who are trying to rewrite the charter to get back at people. Everyone should follow it carefully. Are there things in the charter that should be revised? Sure. Is any of it really major? No. But here these people are, trying to force their old grievances on the rest of us. Well, if they try too much and people see through what they're doing just vote it down and be done with it. It takes a high bar to pass it anyhow, so if they all want to waste their time, that's their business. It's a shame though.
1:04 pm edt 

Town Hall Buzz

Town Hall is abuzz with talk about an investigation downstairs.....what's up?
9:57 am edt 

Re: Bob Harrison

Thank you for the tribute to Bob Harrison.  I couldn't agree more with what you wrote, and I wasn't aware he had passed away. 

His obituary is on the McHoul web page for anyone who would like to see it:

http://www.gatelyfuneralservice.com/gatelymchoulfune.html

Good man, sad day.
9:55 am edt 

Lobster Pot

Fined $6,000 by Board of Health for endangering public safety. Yowzer.
8:46 am edt 

Thursday, September 1, 2016

Re: Charter Commission Group

I have watched each one of the charter commission meetings, and having been involved in P'Town politics, this board is stacked with people with personal grudges and politics, not with the charter. All this time will be wasted because none of these people are trusted by the voters.
10:46 pm edt 

Bob Harrison

It is With Much Sadness that I Read of Bob Harrison's Passing

He was a wonderful person and cared deeply about this town. He was a quiet man who gave generously and often anonymously to so many causes.

I remember when Provincetown would not vote any monies for the July 4th Fireworks and many had to organize a special group to raise money for the fireworks. Bob Harrison quietly but immediately donated $3,000 so that we have fireworks and with the support of others, we did then and have continued to enjoy fireworks.

Bob Harrison was a good friend of Ruth Hiebert, another person who gave so much to Provincetown. I always loved seeing them out, enjoying fine dining, and having such a wonderful time.

I will miss seeing his sweet smile and his wonderful spirit. He was a good man who cared deeply.
10:45 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Tedeschi's - Bad Design

What the hell is wrong with you??? There's nothing else going on in the world that may be more important than ugly barriers in from of Tedeschi's??  You know, like hurricanes and tropical storms, black men and women being shot in the street by racist cops, the millions of homeless (a vast majority are women and children, combat veterans, etc) on the streets???

Get a FREAKING LIFE, you bratty little crybabies!!!
10:42 pm edt 

Charter Commission Group

You Should Watch the last Charter Commission Group

They want to re-write the entire charter. they want to revise the sections where they believe they were hurt or damaged. Consider their suggestion to establish a new body that would be overseeing appeals by the citizens. You were denied by Health--then you go to this semi-judicial group. Or you were denied by Conservation, then you could appeal your case to this special charter group. Really? A new group to handle appeals by Planning, Zoning, Health, Conservation, and Historic. And what would make this special board anymore fair and objective than any other board? Plus, how would this one special board know zoning by-laws, Health codes, Planning and Historic by-laws?

Some very odd thinking going on. Keep you eyes on this group and review their meetings. Something's amiss in their desired changes to our charter.

I'd rather stay with what we have then have them re-write each section for their own biases.
2:17 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Tedeschi's - Bad Design
                                           
"Last I knew the Town Manager was responsible for town staff, not some social media lynch mob.  If the TM is satisfied with the qualifications and work of the TP then you don't have the right to demand anything." 
 
You Missed the Point

Yes, the ugly red and white barriers are on private property but it is the town that is forcing Tedeschi's to do this. Planning is orchestrating this fiasco and they should be blamed for sheer arrogance in their ignorance. What does this Planning Board really know about traffic control and design?

Let the question stand.  
1:07 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner - Tedeschi's - Bad Design

The new Provincetown Tedeschi's is one of a complex of over 180 stores and is now owned by 7-Eleven a company with over 10,500 stores throughout the U.S.
 
They employ architects and engineers to design their stores and parking lots with  great precision relative to traffic flow and pedestrian safety...they have to!
 
Where else has the implementation of the Provincetown "barrier fiasco" been employed. A cursory scan of the the four-way corner of Standish and Bradford will show that the other existing businesses which involve the movement of cars successfully employ open curves and have for years.
 
Why was it necessary to experiment with an  unproven working configuration, when indeed the system was not broken? It is the act of an uneducated sophomoric novice, flush with power and the overwhelming need to control.  
 
In my opinion, the call for substantiation of her credentials is warranted and justified. 
10:43 am edt 

10:10 am edt 

Re: Town Planner Degree
 
"Last I knew the Town Manager was responsible for town staff, not some social media lynch mob.  If the TM is satisfied with the qualifications and work of the TP then you don't have the right to demand anything." 
 
Again, quit the BS and publish the academic qualifications of the Town Planner:
 
Degrees, Dates Awarded and Name of Awarding Institution.
 
It's very simple and only complicated by the need to obfuscate, if  indeed the reality  is different from the published facts.
 
The request is for public information documents. We call upon the Town Manger to  publish the information.
Given the displayed lack of expertise, which is demonstrably negatively affecting the town, it is imperative that the capability of the Town Planner be verified.
 
It's about that "transparent" government thing the Town Manager often refers to.
9:54 am edt 

Re: Town Planner Degree
 
"Last I knew the Town Manager was responsible for town staff, not some social media lynch mob.  If the TM is satisfied with the qualifications and work of the TP then you don't have the right to demand anything." 
  
No It's Not the town Manager Who Determines Who Is Qualified

Degrees count. Positions require degrees and expertise. You just don't find someone acceptable because you happen to like their personality. Qualifications count.
8:16 am edt 


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