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Monday, August 1, 2016

David Panagore - Posted on Town Talk
 
"Good evening , there's been talk in Town and, as the phrase goes, much ink has been spilt on permitting over at 99 Commerical Street. In my almost year here, I have learned that this community really really values equity and transparency. This means Town Hall must be transprent and treat everyone equitably. Now while I think problems are best resolved by hard work and direct communication, and not usually by issuing broadsides, I do think its important that I talk publicly an...d share my approach as your Town Manager when questions like this arise.

Around the Fourth of July, I recieved a request/complaint that possibly Town Hall was not living up to that standard at 99 Commericial Street and I should look into it. I take these things seriously and as a result directed an independent review be done by Town Counsel of all the permitting out at 99 Commericial Street. Upon review, Town Counsel gave staff a clean bill of health. They had and were following procedure.

Since that time, given the complicated permitting and the lawyering up, as well as on-going neighbor disputes, staff, town counsel and a few boards have remained busy, working on a variety of permitting matters for the several condo owners.

I sincerely wish all the parties well and that their differences can be resolved. Overall, its important that we follow and everyone complies with the same permitting procedures. What's that quote trust but verify ? So if anyone wants to ask me questions review the correspondance for themselves, or other paper work related to this matter, please feel free to contact me."

 

What a crock of total bull s..... If I thought that there was any worth to this Town Manager it has totally evaporated. In other words "don't worry citizens everything was and is clean and transparent as verified by town counsel".The same  group that brought you the Jaran Decision.

His statement has as much substance or validity as as a Donald Trump "Trust Me". Thank god for the court system and third party review. my conclusion is that he is hopeless and will ride this dead horse right into the ground at our expense, big time! 

He makes it sound as though it is merely a squabble between abutters, totally devoid from the machinations of town hall bureaucrats. His Pontius Pilate "washing his hands of the problem" technique may have worked in Hartford or New Haven but it won't work here  in Provincetown.

Time is revealing his incompetency and the BOS is advised to take the lead in  this matter and not let this "Do Nothing-Happy Talk" pretender take us over the cliff. 

 

 



 

 



12:45 am edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

Panagore on the Sal's mess: "Nothing to see here, folks! Town counsel agrees." Yeah, I feel better already. Don't you?
12:27 am edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

So, David Panagore just posted on Town; Talk that Town Counsel gave town employees a "clean bill of health" were 99 Commercial Street is concerned.  Hahahaha.  We'll see if actual independent State agencies agree.
12:25 am edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

If You Own a Restaurant you Should Recuse yourself from voting on a Case that can Cause the Restaurant to open or not open

there is a possible financial gain if the restaurant is stopped from opening. It can indirectly help another's on-going restaurant.

consider that being an abutter to a case means that no one on a board can vote or speak to that case. this is indirect financial gain--and it applies to a restaurant owner as well.

You may ask: what gain do I get voting on an abutter's property? The state is clear: there is a possible gain and you cannot vote on the case!! You can't even stay at the discussion table. You must leave the room until the case is completed.
12:24 am edt 

Sunday, July 31, 2016

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

Conflict of interest law. Here it is:
http://www.mass.gov/ethics/education-and-training-resources/implementation-procedures/municipal-employee-summary.html

Read section D.

"If you, your immediate family, your business, or your employer have or has a financial interest in a matter, you may not participate. The financial interest must be direct and immediate or reasonably foreseeable to create a conflict. Financial interests which are remote, speculative or not sufficiently identifiable do not create conflicts."

This explanation is written exactly for your people who think owning a restaurant means you can't sit on a case involving ANY restaurant. DIRECT AND IMMEDIATE -OR- REASONABLY FORESEEABLE, NOT REMOTE, SPECULATIVE OR NOT SUFFICIENTLY IDENTIFIABLE.

Read it. Stop making stupid arguments.
7:39 pm edt 

An Observation

All Town business is public information,except that marked "Confidential" & after that's resolved "confidential becomes Publis as well! Sarah Peake didn't go to Hillary's last Provincetown soirée before & would be wise to absent herself from the anticipated one now!! Wolfe is out of office as Senator,but would be wise to stay out for business reasons! Respect for all has a price that money can't buy!
7:36 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

Where did anyone hear that staff is monitoring or wants to monitor BOS e-mails?    Not that I don't believe everything I read on this blog.  .  .
7:34 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

You can absolutely sit on a case about restaurants if you own a restaurant. As long as you don't have a *direct* financial interest or a family tie to the restaurant being discussed, you are clear.

The same goes for a real estate agent, for example. A real estate agent can't sit on a case to which he or she has a direct financial or familial connection. But he or she can sit on a case regarding other properties that might effect real estate transactions.


7:33 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

It Is Appalling for town Staff to Read the BOS e-mails

This is shocking and that the town  manager is proposing such an electronic fiasco reveals much about him. Who is staff to want to and be able to read all the e-mails being sent by the Board of Selectmen to each other and to whoever they write to. The BOS remains Panagore's boss and it is not the other way around. The town hall situation is getting worse.

Frankly, this is nuts!!
7:30 pm edt 

Saturday, July 30, 2016

Re: Sal's Place - Notice of Intent

Just read that one of the boys embroiled in the Sal's brouhaha is bringing Clinton for a fundraising event in a few weeks.

Let's hope Sarah Peake nor Dan Wolfe intervene on their behalf during the local, state federal investigations about Sal's complaints.
11:21 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

Staff monitoring BOS e-mails is either a reflection of the incompetence of the BOS or staff thinking they run the BOS and the town.  Neither is good for the town
7:49 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

Allowing staff to access BOS emails? That's not transparency, that's rookie management. No wonder why certain town employees have made stupid and bold decisions... the TM has created little Napoleons! And for once, I agree w/ Mark Hatch about the opening of the 'bomb' on Commercial Street. Incredibly idiotic to put others in danger because the police person ascertained by remote sniffing it wasn't a real threat.

Finally, David, I've always enjoyed your weather/traffic reports, but, its not like anyone who's half literate with an internet connection can't get by their lonesome. Unless, of course, they're on vacation far, far away.
5:08 pm edt 

Re: David Panagore - Town Manager Inept

". . . to have access to BOS E-mails is ridicules . . ."

I hadn't heard of this, what is this about?  Is staff asking to be able to monitor BOS e-mails?
5:03 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

"You miss the point: it's about preferential treatment, Town employees circumventing bylaws and regulations, privileged gay men playing the bully card, and perhaps, a Town planner on overdrive and a Town Manager with his hands off the wheel."

In my dealings with town staff I've found them to be professional, knowledgeable and fair.  You seem to want to throw them all under the bus, are they all in collusion?  I'm assuming you don't mean all staff and from your comments above are you implying it's the town planner with the town manager not giving proper oversight?
5:00 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest
  
"I don't have any skin in this game, but many of you seem to act like Sal's Place is a living being.  It's not."
 
You think that Sal's is New

Just like Yoke that was Devon and is  no more. Like Spindler's that was The Waterford and is no more. Like Upper Deck that was Tiny's and is no more. Like Saints and Sinners that was Della Cucina and is no more. Sal's is just like all restaurants where there is simply a new owner and the life of the restaurants continues.
 
With Sal's the name remains and the spirit remains and the menu remains.
12:26 pm edt 

David Panagore - Town Manager Inept
 
People are beginning to come to the conclusion that this town manager is way over his head and lacks any skill in organizational management. He has shown no leadership skills and as far as his ability to provide solid legal guidance he has been a total zero.
 
His proposal to promote "Staff's" desire to have access to BOS E-mails is ridicules and demonstrates his inability to make sound management decisions. He has shown a total lack of work ethic (vacation during critical seasonal periods), which indicates an inability to grasp the relevant importance of things.
 
He is a willing participant in the disturbing matter of Sal's Place and further revelations will show that he was given ample opportunity to intercede and chose not to do so.....because of "Staff".
 
We need to consider cutting our losses. 

10:37 am edt 

BOS - Plan to Build New Police Station

 

Well I have to say, I believe the town govt plan to put the Police Station at this new location is a clever tactic to sway those of us that believe the Police Station should be at the v.f.w.
The selectman will be again asking for the town citizens to vote to purchase Winslow Farms. I will not be fooled into thinking that a Police Station can, and will be located at this new site.
If town meeting votes to buy Winslow Farms with the belief that a Police station will eventually be allowed at the new location, we will later learn it cant be done. surprise, surprise.

Look what we now have learned about Grace Gouveia sale, surprise surprise. The Town Of Provincetown should hold onto its property, and not give away,

or sell to developers who are the eventual winners.

9:46 am edt 

Re: Sal's Place - Notice of Intent
 
 
"Panagore has some serious explaining to do!"
 
I think the town manager is good at talking to bigwigs from Boston, connecting with groups who tell us about housing like Urban Land, etc.  He's weak in the day-to-day part of managing the town and town staff.  That's how staff involvement in Sal's may cost us down the road if even half of what that's been written about is true.
9:22 am edt 

Beware of the Snakes You House and Feed



They are the same a one's taking and plotting against you

The call is coming from inside the house
9:21 am edt 

Friday, July 29, 2016

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

"I don't have any skin in this game, but many of you seem to act like Sal's Place is a living being.  It's not."

You miss the point: it's about preferential treatment, Town employees circumventing bylaws and regulations, privileged gay men playing the bully card, and perhaps, a Town planner on overdrive and a Town Manager with his hands off the wheel.
11:51 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

Sals restaurant

Sounds like it's time for a conversation with State Ethics on Mr. Yolk  sitting on the Sals hearing.


11:48 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place - Notice of Intent
 
"Look at Provincetown 365 and who the insiders are.  Now look at who is causing all of the trouble on Boards.  This site used to be about connecting the dots...these aren't hard to connect."
 
Rest assured the dots  have been connected and will be revealed at the proper time.
 
There are many steps  in this game. Time will  tell.
8:51 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest
 
"Sorry, you don't seem to understand the state's conflict of interest laws. Use Google and read before you make uninformed accusations. It's not a conflict of interest to own a restaurant and sit on a case about a restaurant."
 
What? Yes It is!!

You cannot own a restaurant and then rule on someone else's restaurant. This is--is---a conflict of interest. If you do her in and she can't open her restaurant, you may benefit from one less restaurant in town.

It is fully and clearly a conflict of interest. If there is any--any--potential and future gain, you cannot sit on a case.

this is the essence of the conflict of interest law.

Take the state test again.  read it carefully and you will see: such an action is in conflict of interest.

8:45 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Banner - Letter to the Editor - July 23, 2016

I don't have any skin in this game, but many of you seem to act like Sal's Place is a living being.  It's not.  When it re-opens the staff will be all new, it has new owners, it's a new chapter.  Good luck to them.

Sal's Place exist in name only, time to move on
8:43 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place - Notice of Intent

"You're onto something, but not 100% there."

Look at Provincetown 365 and who the insiders are.  Now look at who is causing all of the trouble on Boards.  This site used to be about connecting the dots...these aren't hard to connect.
8:34 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place - Notice of Intent

As the details of the Sal's debacle emerge, I am particularly appalled that Town employees would have the temerity to trespass, and then approve of unregulated work, as outlined in Matthias J. Mulvey's letter. On several occasions no less. It stinks of grave mismanagement, combined with the will of the over-privileged. The whole thing is fodder for a few costly lawsuits. Doesn't bode well for the Town, or the competence of the Town Manager.
8:32 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

"Sorry, you don't seem to understand the state's conflict of interest laws. Use Google and read before you make uninformed accusations. It's not a conflict of interest to own a restaurant and sit on a case about a restaurant."
 
It's not about Googling, it's about having taken the State Board of Ethics course and exam. I am  board certified. Your response is very similar to many of the uninformed responses that in the end are wrong and injurious to the the town.
 
 
2:36 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health - Conflict of Interest
 
"Not only is he a restaurateur but the variance concerned the layout of Sal's open kitchen, which is somewhat similar to  the open kitchen of Mr. Katsurinis' "Yolk"restaurant." 

Sorry, you don't seem to understand the state's conflict of interest laws. Use Google and read before you make uninformed accusations. It's not a conflict of interest to own a restaurant and sit on a case about a restaurant.
2:25 pm edt 

Board of Health - Conflict of Interest

 

This Sal's Place debacle raises a lot of questions. It seems that no standard rules were ever applied.

Looking back at last Wednesday July 27, 2016 Board of  Health meeting regarding a request for a variance to a food code for Sal's Place, I recall that one of the voting members of the Board of Health was Mr. Steve Katsurinis.

He was very aggressive in his questioning of the owner of Sal's. In fact he was rather too aggressive compared to the other board members. It was not clear to me as to the reason and purpose of his aggression, especially, when he himself is a restaurateur. Not only is he a restaurateur but the variance concerned the layout of Sal's open kitchen, which is somewhat similar to  the open kitchen of Mr. Katsurinis' "Yolk"restaurant.

Upon reflection, Mr. Katsurinis was in a most direct conflict of interest and should have recursed himself.

Not only should  he have recused himself, he should have left the room. But instead he stayed and also voted on the case. Who Chaired this meeting? Haven't we spent time and money on educating board members on "Conflict of Interest" law?

Mr. Katsurinis should be reprimanded and sited to the State Board of Ethics.

Do you mean to tell me, no one knew this was a violation. You can't make this up. We seem to be flying by the seat of our pants. It turns out that Mr. Katsurinis is a lawyer and should have known better. Not to mention the fact thatour Town Manager is also a lawyer.

What pray tell is he doing with his time besides  publishing "Happy Thoughts on Social Media, while Rome burns.

Having second thoughts i.e. buyers regret. 

 

 

2:06 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Banner - Letter to the Editor - July 23, 2016
 
"Panagore has some serious explaining to do!"

Nothing will happen, nobody cares. The owners got their permits and now, some how, the owners are now going to be overly inspected all the time for having stepped up and complained.
 
Welcome to ptown!
12:35 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Banner - Letter to the Editor - July 23, 2016
  
"Sal's Place Dilemma Needs Investigation"
  
Thank you, Clarence, for your articulate letter. The buck stops with the town manager. Panagore has some serious explaining to do!
11:26 am edt 

Re: Coming to a Head

The police chief should be visible!!! Walking the streets getting to know people and issues are important!!!! Wake up and realize he answers to no one.
11:24 am edt 

Re: Coming to a Head

What difference would it make if the Police Chief walked through town every day, about 20 pounds give or take.
11:20 am edt 

Re: Sal's Place

Sal's saga was a battle for the soul of Provincetown.  At least this go around, the soul wasn't sold to the highest bidder.

Will we allow, as some on Facebook have called it, the Nantucket-ization of Provincetown?  So far the answer seems to be yes.  That a wealthy individual would buy a property next to a restaurant and have the arrogance to think that he could prevent them from opening is unsurprising.  (Here's a tip for said wealthy individual - if you are too poor to buy the whole thing, you can't control it.)

What is disturbing, however, is that it appears that town officials chose to conspire with these individuals to keep a beloved Provincetown institution closed.  And they do so every time by hiding behind selective interpretation of the bylaws.  But they make it sound as though their hands are tied even though those of us who have been around know perfectly well that Boards debate the application and enforcement of bylaws all the time.  That is the true scandal. 

They wouldn't dare try to pull such maneuvers with established business people in town, so the whole thing has a real element of bullying as well.  Town Officials working with "A list" newcomers to beat up on a restauranteur to make it more like Nantucket in their little part of the West End.

And given the dramatic turnaround since the Sal's Place letter went up on Facebook and on mypacc, is there any way to read this except that the town was previously acting improperly and in very bad faith?  What happened to all those bylaws cited for why the restaurant couldn't open?  Looks like the selective interpretation of them got selectively reinterpreted awfully fast under community pressure.  That is no way to run town government and, as Clarence points out deftly, exposes the town to legal action.  Haven't we had enough of that?

Panagore needs to get his act together and stop falling into the classic trap of trying to make friends with the right people.  Instead he needs to do what's right for Provincetown.  And where was the BOS on all of this?  Same place they have been for years - abdicating leadership.

It's disheartening, but at least this round was won.
11:16 am edt 

Provincetown Banner - Letter to the Editor - July 23, 2016
 
Sal's Place Dilemma Needs Investigation
 
The story of Sal's Place is a seminal story rooted in the changing existential demographics of Provincetown, where qualities-of-life such as “simplicity” and “beauty” are redefined and reduced to terms of wealth and power. Nowhere in the subject article does the reporter portray the essence of the problem, which apparently stems from the desire of a few individuals to dissolve the existence of a long-existing beloved establishment, effectively consigning it to the junk heap of history, a mere memory. It’s a story that speaks of money, power, influence, alleged malfeasance and blatant selective regulatory enforcement to the detriment of a single individual for the benefit of a powerful few.

 

Cursory observation reveals that there has been a year-long concerted effort on the part of specific town officials and private citizens to thwart the opening of Sal's Place, orchestrated by interested private parties working in concert with particular town officials.

  

The reasons for the delayed opening fall directly at the feet of the town manager, town planner, board of health agent, building commissioner and the conservation agent. Nowhere in the article is there any mention of the manifest arrogance of minority condo members (22%) taking unilateral actions, with the tacit approval of the various town regulatory agencies, in direct contravention of the will and rights of the majority condo member (78%) as expressed in the controlling condo documentation.

 

The willful and brazen unauthorized destruction of private property with no consequential intervention, including the outright refusal by the responsible authorities to intervene, combined with the refusal of an abutter to accept the reality of the continued operation of the restaurant, speaks volumes.

 

Prospects of a successful law suit against the town loom large. This potential deleterious prospect is totally missed in the article, which is devoid of context or substance.

 

Clarence L. Walker, Jr.

Provincetown

 

1:31 am edt 

Re: Sal's Place

"When the full story comes out there will be heads to roll."

In a perfect world, heads would roll. Whoever/whatever that was obstructing Sal's opening would have carried on for ages if not for a very public outcry. Funny how things just fell into place and viola! here's your permit, madam. Still, glad for it's opening. It's like being welcomed into the home of an old friend.
1:14 am edt 

What the Heck is Going on at PTV??
 
The meeting schedule on the home page hasn't been updated for weeks, Monday Nights BOS meeting isn't posted yet,(it's thursday evening now) meetings aren't being posted promptly....what happened? It seemed to be headed in such a good direction. Get your shit together, PTV!!
1:12 am edt 

Re: Coming to a Head

What difference would it make if the police chief walked through town? Enforcing regulations about street performers is what our officers do, not the chief.


1:10 am edt 

Thursday, July 28, 2016

Re: Sal's Place

After nearly one year, Sal's Place has been granted all  of the requisite permits to open.
 
Sal's will begin operations sometime next week. 
 
When the full story comes out there will be heads to roll. What a massive injustice! 
8:29 pm edt 

Re: BOS Grace Gouveia Give Away - How Inept

"The BOS negotiated the Grace Gouveia building transaction, if you want to blame someone look no further than them.  They negotiated a lower sale price in exchange for three affordable units."

Don't really care.  But, if I did I'd watch the BOS meeting so see the discussion.  From their agenda packet I'm guessing it cost more because there isn't a clear title to the property.
12:27 pm edt 

Re: BOS Grace Gouveia Give Away - How Inept

The Grace Gouveia Give Away Shows Mismanagement

Who was running the town then? Was it David Gardner? Then he is guilty of mismanagement and this is another mess. and if it was him, wasn't our prized housing specialist Michelle Jarurizki the temporary Assistant town Manager?

We give away the building--you could have put the police station there for little money--and then the town is forced, once again, to give to the developers another $15,000 for each--yes each--of the affordable housing units. and in addition, I think the town will be paying a management fee and they still don't have a management group to handle this.

And you wonder why we stumble every time with affordable housing and keep doing the same dumb thing over and over again.
10:24 am edt 

Re: Unjust Compensation

If you are an officer or manager of an employer who forces violations of law you can face fines and legal charges for supporting and enforcing that practice.

Yes it's true that one of the largest private employers is being actively investigated, however there isn't a question as to validity, all proof has been supplied. It more a matter of the number of people who will get their due compensation. You don't have to join the FLSA claim to get you back wages but if you want liquidated damages you do. As for the management that enforces the practice, shame on you and I hope you are treated with the same lack of respect you have shown your staffing when you get your day in court. This isn't a maybe. It will happen.
10:06 am edt 

BOS - Police Station New Location?

Yippee! The BOS has found yet another location for a proposed police station. Now, let's spend another $300,000 on plans and consultants. WTF!
8:46 am edt 

Wednesday, July 27, 2016

Re: BOS Grace Gouveia Give Away - How Inept

Where is our affordable housing specialist on this.m the affordable units go through her department. Does she not handle that paperwork? If not, what are we paying that position for.
8:28 pm edt 

Re: Coming to a Head

OMG, enough street performers. Let's change the bylaw to eliminate amplified music, limit hours and where they can perform  and once and for all put a limit on the number of performers on Commercial Street at a time. Where the hell is the police chief I never see him in town....walk around once in a while, the town needs it and you do as well.
8:26 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place Restaurant

Looks like people are playing games with Sal's restaurant license! Trying to stall everything until 2 yrs. go by & then they lose their license never to be gotten again! Owners should sue everybody involved!
5:57 pm edt 

Re: BOS Grace Gouveia Give Away - How Inept

In response....do I have to , repeat.......,I watched and listened to the the meeting that reported what I said ! Not me but the BOS  in re the grace gov mess!
7:04 am edt 

Re: Coming to a Head

Tread lightly re Buskers here in Provincetown! It was tested in Supreme Court as to whether it could be stopped! It Couldn't!! The decision was that that form of entertainment is allowed thru the centuries,music,jugglers,etc. & shall be allowed to continue! Entertainers must not obstruct a Public Way & may not verbally beg but can accept donations of money in a hat,music case or an appropriate receptacle!They may play until 10 P.m. Or until bY-laws state a time certain! Display of Christmas Crèche ON Public Town Property was tested at the same time & is allowed as well for duration of the Christmas season!
7:02 am edt 

Tuesday, July 26, 2016

BOS Grace Gouveia Give Away - How Inept

"...Like the Grace Goveia building that now, each affordable unit needs to give the developers an extra $15,000 and neither the town manager nor the assistant town manager nor any BOS member can explain why...."

Talk about a cryptic post. Could the poster of this comment please provide us with some facts? What exactly do you mean that each affordable unit needs to give the developer an extra $15,000? What does this money represent? Why is it "extra"? Who is supposed to pay it? Why do they have to pay it? Most importantly, what document can I read to see for myself where it says an extra $15,000 is due the developer? Why can't I make my own decision on this topic based on the facts instead of your obviously slanted opinion?? Looking forward to your response. Thanks.
4:28 pm edt 

BOS Grace Gouveia Give Away - How Inept

Yes! I watched the BOS meeting Monday night. So, town sold the Grace G building at a reduced price with the caveat that the developer includes 3 affordables....town then negotiated to buy those 3 units not at the original$130,000 but at $115,000. Deal done. But now the developer is demanding another$15,000 for each because they need the money. None of the boards agreed to this but the town is being forced to pay the extra money....nobody knows why! Nice going! Oh, the other glitch is that the town does not have a management co. to rent or manage the units and hopes the CPC or Housing Committee will do it as a favor to the town with no compensation for the work. This was not well thought out.
4:13 pm edt 

Now the Recreation Building Goes Up For Sale

And once again the town will sell its resources for little. Like the Grace Goveia building that now, each affordable unit needs to give the developers an extra $15,000 and neither the town manager nor the assistant town manager nor any BOS member can explain why. and as for Jaruwicz, she  can't explain it--and should be embarassed about this-- but will, in such a soft voice, tell the developers that people are not happy.

Oh brother! and we are paying her $110,000 for knowing little and acting more as a friend of developers than as a friend of the town residents.

11:49 am edt 

Unjust Compensation

A few weeks back a post was up to contact someone if you felt you were being unjustly compensated at work.

After some research I have found that this is a truthful post and that one business in specific is being investigated for 2 employees filing for not being paid Overtime by the                       .

If you have worked for them any time in the past 3 years you can claim compensation and be paid 3x what is due to you. Contact the US Dept of Labor Brockton office now.

This is now multiple times the                        has been investigated for this same thing.
11:47 am edt 

Monday, July 25, 2016

Coming to a Head

It's about to get really nasty between business wrecking, free permit, non juried street performers and excessive rent paying store owners who can't determine their own ambience. First amendment my ass. Noise is noise, Our mortgages are threatened and that's not acceptable. Get ready buskers, here it comes!
10:55 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place Restaurant
 
"Here's the truth: it's all in the bylaws. If you don't follow them, that's it." 
 
How Naïve--By Laws are Interpreted and then either or not enforced

and who is interpreting many of our by-laws? who is deciding which application goes to which board? Decisions are being made " downstairs" and then people's lives are changed by who is sent to many boards and then those special few who hardly have to appear in front of any boards.

Some are unfairly making such decision. It depends on who you are--and perhaps what you are offering. It is corrupt and this attitude corrupts us all.
9:13 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place Restaurant

"Here's the truth: it's all in the bylaws. If you don't follow them, that's it."

Don't know if your willfully ignorant or naive. The entire justice system hinges on interpretation of said laws/bylaws, if they are applied evenly, ignored, or arbitrarily enforced. Life just ain't that simple. Ask any lawyer/judge/plaintiff, etc. Please don't be such a dim bulb.
8:39 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place Restaurant

"The town should be ashamed." 

Plenty of reasons the town should be ashamed not sure Sal's opening problems qualifies,  small town drama yes, shameful a bit dramatic even from the entitled
8:38 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place Restaurant

 

"Do not want this Hampton's mentality"


Way too too late for that

8:29 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place Restaurant

"Is Lora one of "the new owners", per the posting above?"
 
No! She is not. 
6:28 pm edt 

6:25 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place Restaurant

"That said, how great that the friends of Sal's are rallying and standing tall in support of the new owners, including Lora P."

Is Lora one of "the new owners", per the posting above?
6:22 pm edt 

Re: About Idiocy

"You can't look at this behavior and not see strains of, what? Trumpism? Mental illness? Bullying? Witch-hunt supporters? It's just unhinged. "

It seems a lot of people on this forum think that the Town Planner has some sort of magic powers. Here's the truth: it's all in the bylaws. If you don't follow them, that's it. That can happen from the town or that can happen if your neighbors have a problem with what you're doing. There is no conspiracy, no subterfuge and no one person pulling the strings. These are the same people who would want you to bend things to their favor if they had the chance. Look at the posts on other things in this town! It's always the same. A certain bunch of complainers don't get what they want, so they start in on the blogs. Here's a hint: nothing that happens on a blog or on a Facebook page matters. Everyone has a job to do, we have bylaws, and the town doesn't want to be sued. Instead of outrage over this, you should be saving the outrage for asking how the police last month could have had 1900 property checks (which is just as asinine as having 1900 in February) and how a police office c!ould open something described as a bomb right on a busy tourist sidewalk without getting fired. What if that were a bomb? Not only would her head have been rolling down the street, but that idiot would have killed everyone within a twenty foot radius. So let's all complain about the things that matter and ask ourselves why our Police Chief is padding calls and an obviously unqualified dangerous cop is still employed and not facing disciplinary charges for her
6:19 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place Restaurant

"If the town has a bylaw governing the development in a specific area, say Shank Painter Road, don't blame a staff person for enforcing the rules."

I agree, but posters are suggesting the Planner has interfered with Sal's opening, weighing in favor of the abutters. It would be appreciated that those with legitimate knowledge, not based on speculation or hearsay, could outline how the Planner has shown bias.

That said, how great that the friends of Sal's are rallying and standing tall in support of the new owners, including Lora P. Hopefully, this great restaurant will open soon!

2:24 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place Restaurant

Well...after all is said and done, the only that did very, very well was Lora.  he got her money and then some.  Good for her, after all this years!
2:22 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place Restaurant

Oh, I Get It. All others restaurants are open and have been since Memorial Day But Sal's Still Cannot Open

This is horrendous and shows selective treatment. all this was, was a change of ownership---not a new restaurant, not a place that before was a home. it has always been for forty and more years a restaurant. How many violations can one place be given--all fabricated, all done to make certain this small place never opens again.

and what is really tragic is that the town employees have been and are complicit with the abutter's wish and demand that no restaurant be allowed to exist. He does not want the hoi polloi near his house nor near his existence.

He wants the rich to play there and not the patrons who are to him the very hoi polloi.

The town should be ashamed.
12:24 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place Restaurant

Once again, entitled, spoiled 2nd homeowners think things must go their way because they want it.........and they pay taxes after all!

Another sad story of the NEW Provincetown!

The truth will come out, there are still many of us who do not want this Hampton's mentality to invade our town!
12:23 pm edt 

Re: About Idiocy

These are facts: I write a post simply saying that I think a town employee is doing a good job and that all of the town's ills can't be placed at her feet. This forum's response:

1) Claiming that I am, in fact, the town employee. (I am not.)

2) Calling for my identity to be uncovered, which has never been done in the history of MYPACC. (Thank you moderator for treating me the same way you treat everyone else.)

3) Accusing me of taking a bribe for stating my opinion that the town planner is good for town. (I did not. LOL.)

4) Threatening to "confront" me about my support of the town planner, asking what I would say if that happened. (I would just say the same thing I said in my post.)

You can't look at this behavior and not see strains of, what? Trumpism? Mental illness? Bullying? Witch-hunt supporters? It's just unhinged. 
12:21 pm edt 

Re: About Idiocy
 
"You assume a positive post about a staff member could have only been posted by that staff member.  How idiotic.

actually idiotic to think the web master can't access poster's email address"
 
 
Webmaster Comment: It has long been established that posting to Shout Out is via a blind host, which  is stripped of I.P. addresses and blind to the administrator.
 
The only way to gain access to a posting address is by Court Subpoena, which the previous Provincetown Police Chief found out about while trying to  identify Shout Out posters.
  
7:34 am edt 

About Idiocy

You assume a positive post about a staff member could have only been posted by that staff member.  How idiotic.

actually idiotic to think the web master can't access poster's email address.
12:05 am edt 

Sunday, July 24, 2016

Re: Truth to Power

 Who else has gone through this? Yoke? Strangers and Saints? Upper Deck? Canteen? Spindlers?   most if not all 365 members.

11:11 pm edt 

Re: Truth be Told - Truth to Power

Every so often, someone comes in here and posts a similar piece. Heads will role, the highest political levels will tumble, the town will suffer, secrets will be revealed etc.

Post something with weight or just be gone. These "secrets" are most likely all well known to most in town but when a new person the political system finds them to be wrong, they loose it.

Post some evidence of wrong doing and place the blame on someone specifically or just go back to sleep.
11:08 pm edt 

Truth be Told - Truth to Power

 

As the truth is slowly revealed regarding how Provincetown government really works, it will put our beloved village in a most negative light. More  to  the  point certain individuals will be found to work in a manner that borders on criminal. 

There will be revealed a process that favored the rich and powerful over the meek and honest. Laws were flaunted (Local, State and Federal) as well as broken. Responsibility and ethics will be shown to have been abandoned in deference and service to power.

In comparison, the Kline House in Truro will appear as a mere tempest in a tea pot compared to the willful flaunting of the law here in Provincetown. The extensive and concerted  actions taken against  the simple act of  opening  a small unassuming restaurant in a quaint New England village will have repercussions that will emanate from Provincetown and  echo in th halls of Washington DC. It will test the veracity of those very individuals who would lead this great nation. it will necessitate an answer to the  question... whose side are you  on?!

10:06 pm edt 

Provincetown Beacon

Oatie's on the outs. While it took the 2 Marks an eternity to understand (my bet is someone in authority gave them a clue) that Richard Rogers, out-of-towner extraordinaire, has been playing them both like fiddles. Imagine, now one can read the Beacon, and the NEW Beacon, without cringing! Almost.
9:31 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place

The Obstacles Sal's Faces is Tragic

Siobhan's daughter writes a sad and tragic tale. and it is awful that this town has made it so impossible for the new owner to open. How many meetings at the Zoning Board of appeals and all three were unnecessary since she already had a reduced seating. Who else has to go before Zoning three times to get approval for what was already approved? and then two more times in front of Licensing and then they put off any judgment until zoning had made a decision --all unnecessary--and then we are into January and February 2016. And then more meetings for Health and then conservation and then Historic--when there is no change to the restaurant--no change to anything.

Who else has gone through this? Yoke? Strangers and Saints? Upper Deck? Canteen? Spindlers? Devon?  Just look and see that they are all open. Sal's is not.

that was the plan of the neighbors and town staff colluded to make this impossible to open.

Obviously money talks--and corruption is writ large.
9:30 pm edt 

TD Bank Bomb Threat

If the above was considered as legitimate by our Police Force, in conjunction with the FBI, ICE, the State Police and Homeland Security, then why does the suspect's arrest appear to be handled so casually? Commercial St was open for vehicular, bicycle and pedestrian traffic. No bomb squad was evident nor were our officers wearing protective clothing. Sgt Lobore was video'd OPENING the alleged bomb which, if real, could have exploded and caused serious injury and/or death to herself as well as passers-by. What does this say about the Town's preparations should an incident like the one in Orlando take place here? I am not suggesting that such preparations be publicized but do think that an incident like this be treated professionally. Otherwise, it may lead to observers losing confidence and trust in those who we count on to protect us. Thank you.
9:25 pm edt 

Re: Over Regulation For Some

"How many town employee's are in positions of authority but are not qualified and don't have requisite  state mandated certifications?"

You may not realize it, but working for the Town of Provincetown is not utopia.  There are limited applications for upper level positions.  Compensation does not compensate for the remoteness, the Provincetown crazy reputation and high cost of housing.  When you don't receive any 100% qualified/certified applicants you take the best you can get and work with them.

It's not going to get better.
9:22 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

Many posters are a lttle off here.  You assume a positive post about a staff member could have only been posted by that staff member.  How idiotic.

I don't know the planner's work so I'm not going to comment one way or another on the job she is doing contrary to what many posters are doing here.  Before you judge someone's work you need to know all the bylaws, codes and rules that govern.  If the town has a bylaw governing the development in a specific area, say Shank Painter Road, don't blame a staff person for enforcing the rules.

9:20 pm edt 

Re: Over Regulation For Some
 
How many town employee's are in positions of authority but are not qualified and don't have requisite  state mandated certifications?

3:37 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

I don't know what, if anything, you were promised for carrying someone else's water, but, I don't thing it was worth it. Only time will tell. When confronted, what will you say?
3:32 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

May the golden boys in Home At Last soon be inhaling the pungent but glorious scent of sauteing garlic! And may the town planner soon be slipping on garlic skins on her way out of town. Over entitled. Pure and simple.
3:24 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

Good try Gloria--Defend Yourself

and act as if you are not you defending you. Ah, but it is you defending you. It's like looking into the carnival mirrors that distort all reality.
3:23 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place

As always you wonder if there is more to a story.

The new owner of Sal's Place wrote about the terrible treatment she received from her neighbors.  It worked, many of us felt for her.  Now in her latest entry the problems are all town hall staff related.  I think she may be overplaying the victim card.
3:22 pm edt 

Over Regulation Only For Some

How does the coffe pot in lopes square get away with not offering a restroom for its patrons?  Isn't that a board of health issue?
3:20 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

The Town's initial mistake was ti hire a Town Planner,after the fact,when there was no longer a need! Too late! SHe now tries to justify her job by getting involved in Town business  that should not be in her perview at all! The issue of Sal's is very bizarre! The Home at Last was desecrated to start with & now I read the ingrate owners are going to give the new Sal's owners an unfair time who seem to have been established here longer! The nasty neighbors knew it was a restaurant before they bought Home at last,so why did they? Perhaps to abuse women owners?!
3:18 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

It's actually a bit...stupid. Sorry. It is. And it's hindering you/us from actually getting to the root of town's problems

No the BOS and town manager are hindering you/us by looking away from the obvious.



And it's hindering you/us from actually getting to the root of town's problems.
1:07 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

Planner may think she is immune to being wrong, doesn't mean she is.
1:06 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

Town Planner is listed as a central player in forthcoming law suit. She will be gone by January 1, 2017 and all of the other sub players will be brought to task. It's a dam shame!
 
10:27 am edt 

Re: Town Planner
 
"I just want to say I love the town planner........" 
 
I'm certain you do. It's call narcissism  
10:21 am edt 

Re: Town Planner

I just want to say I love the town planner, think she is doing an excellent job, and find her to be a sane and practical voice in town hall. This page's weird obsession with her reminds me of Donald Trump's scapegoating of immigrants, Hillary Clinton, etc. Problem in town? Just blame Gloria. Something you don't like happening? Must be Gloria. Something not running smoothly? Gloria's fault. It's actually a bit...stupid. Sorry. It is. And it's hindering you/us from actually getting to the root of town's problems. I guarantee just getting rid of the town planner wouldn't solve any of town's problems.
10:18 am edt 

Saturday, July 23, 2016

Re: Town Planner - Acting Like the Town Manager

 

Headed for the Cliff 

All this s..... is hitting the fan and what does the new Town Manager do.....go on vacation,

This means, that this being his first summer, he will  have missed out on being present during two major periods i.e. Memorial weekend and 4th of July  

What's in his head.......beats me? 

11:27 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

I Think the Stop work Order at Tedecchi's is also a McPherson Disaster

I think she is holding them up because she wants what she wanted on Shannkpainter--some islands of flowers and other esoteric demands. It is a mess and they need to get that fence down and let people park. they took down the pumps--that's all. She is using Planning as a weapon against key businesses. she has to go.
11:20 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

Whose plan was it to have rain at 7:15 on a July Saturday night? Oh that darned town planner!
11:18 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place

The prime Town official obstructing  the opening of Sal's Place is Gloria McPherson, Town Planner. She has for almost a year made it her goal to block the opening of this restaurant.
 
A review of her obstructionist tactics can be seen on P TV. She has taken on this role with a vengeance and questions must and will be raise as to why? Her actions have aggrieved the Chairmen of Conservation, Zoning and the Historic District Commission.
 
She is a detriment to the Town. Her actions have resulted in multiple law suits being brought against the town and it is rumored that an expose' regarding the highly unusual official rulings against Sal's are being investigated by three major publications. That's all we need....WTF. 
 
Additionally, the Sal's Place case will  be going to Superior Court.  
11:17 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

Someone needs to drop a dime, call 411 and get rid of the Town Planner, who's oversees the naming of all shops on the East Coast!
8:36 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Place

"Wow.  I just read the heartfelt letter from the new owner of Sal's Place.  Talk about thuggish behavior."

Had the restaurant sold first, or the entire property as it was, one single unit, all of this could have probably been prevented.  The original owner got her money no matter what.  It's Siobhan is now left out to dry.
8:34 pm edt 

Re: Town Planner

I think the Town Planner is Unhinged

There is something quite loose in her head and her so-called thinking is flawed. she is a nightmare and I predict this erratic behavior will continue until she is fired.
3:19 pm edt 

Re: Lose the Town Planner


What is the HDC lawsuit on?
3:15 pm edt 

Re: Bike Stores - Names Matter
 
"They should not be allowed to usurp the name begun by PTown bikes" 
 
 
Who's responsible for this?

What a stupid post. Town employees are full of screw ups but not seeing how anyone in town hall has any control over people's choice of business names.  And who calls 411 anymore? Your post goes down as one of the most informed for sure.
3:11 pm edt 

Sal's Place

Wow.  I just read the heartfelt letter from the new owner of Sal's Place.  Talk about thuggish behavior.  First the guy who bough Home Away destroys that property even though HDC tried their hardest to stop it from happening and then he and the golden children who live out on the pier don't want a restaurant so they are behaving like petulant brats.  I only hope that the town isn't culpable in this fiasco.
3:09 pm edt 

Re: Hatch and Del Franco on the Beacon

Sorry, the Town manager has no role in controlling any committed member(s).  That role belongs solely to the appointing authority.  I don't disagree that the diarrhea of the mouth exhibited on the Beacon is unprofessional at best, it is inappropriate for the town manager to step in.
3:07 pm edt 

Provincetown Gym

I was at the Provincetown gym. All the windows are screwed shut. With a blatant secret put into them. Isn't that a safety issue? Any emergency exit through a window is screwed shut. Where are the people that are supposed to check businesses and keep us safe?
3:05 pm edt 

Friday, July 22, 2016

Lose the Town Planner

This town continues to mess with new business ventures. First Riley's could not open an entertainment venue now a restaurant. Some moron on fb is giving a new bike shop a hard time, what the hell people. Michael Shay's is still not developed on and on it goes. Lose the Planner she is a big problem.
1:59 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch - FinCom Chair

Another gem out of the mouth of the chair of the Ptown FinCom

As written by Mark Hatch when commenting on a assault and battery between spouses do to infidelity where series bodily occurred, " I don't know what's a matter with straight people if we caught our significant other  cheating we'd just have a threesome and party"!!! Again what the hell is this simpleton doing representing this town in any way shape or form. Where is Mary Jo? and why the hell did she appoint him in the first place? Being the fun guy a parties does to qualify Hatch to be on the FinCom please rectify the problem the sooner the better!!!
1:55 pm edt 

Trump is Our Nightmare

He is Hitler-like and Mussolini-like and a demagogue and dictator. He has the answers. He knows the solution. He can fix it--whatever the "it" is. He is absolute. He is the brain.

Trump is a sick man and sadly the voters are even sicker to tolerate this madness.
11:49 am edt 

Re: Hatch and Del Franco on the Beacon

The circus and embarrassment of Mark Hatch and Mark Del Franco on the blog the beacon is a huge disappointment to hear two appointed town officials say stupid things and not only stupid but also damaging information to voters. When will the town manager tell these two fools that it is NOT cool to embarass themselves daily on that sicko blog, and let Richard Rogers use them like little toys he plays with. Now, after months of being used by Oatsey, Hatch finally gives up for the 3rd or 4th time, Oatsey wins! Hatch and Del Franco are an embarrassment to the town!!
11:47 am edt 

Thursday, July 21, 2016

Re: Bike Stores - Names Matter

Names are Important and Business Names are Key

They should not be allowed to usurp the name begun by PTown bikes. Open a competitive shop but don't plagiarize--ala Melania Trump--your words and phrases. Words become a trademark and names should be protected and respected. This is just wrong from any business perspective.
6:42 pm edt 

Re: Historic District Commission
 
"Another lawsuit against the HDC?" 
 
 
Yes, Just ask Gloria McPherson

if you want information on why a lawsuit is in process. Ask her why she purposefully undermined the HDC. it is not a pretty picture but more than the Portrait of Dorian Grey.

Look closely and you will see a familiar face turning and twisting into chaos.
6:39 pm edt 

Note to Wayne Martin:

We Don't care. Your posts are scrolled past.
6:38 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch - FinCom Chair

 

If You're the Chair of a board or a member of a board

You need to act professionally and should watch what you say on facebook postings. there is a responsibility and above all else, there should be restraints to some of the things said and a carefulness in off-hand remarks. Such behavior brings down a board's position in town and reduces its importance.

1:13 pm edt 

Historic District Commission

Another lawsuit against the HDC?
1:10 pm edt 

From: Wayne Martin

 

This is Wayne Martin once again and to make it perfectly clear It is my believe that the persona "Jimmy Hurd" was created just for the audience of the beacon to defame my name and impugn my character anybody that knows me knows that I am not afraid of anything and I certainly don't use fake profiles. The profile Jimmy Hurd can not be seen anywhere else to my knowledge besides the Beacon and it was the Amins of the Beacon "Hatch & Rogers who stated to all it was me. Also I was removed only after I went to the TM with my complaints against Hatch and Del Franco and screen shots to back it up! All I do is help people in this town and I have to deal with this crap from Ptown committee members that I exposed as corrupt liars and the TM refuses to do anything about It. They use the profile Jimmy Hurd to insite animosity towards gays and to call people horrific names then said it was me, although I could not comment on the Beacon any further and after a friend Eric Rego sh!
owed me what was being said about me I personal messaged members from the Beacon to let them know what Hatch, Del Franco and Rogers were up to. My next step is going in front of the BoS and then to the police to press charges of criminal harassment and or criminal deformation because the TM said there was nothing he could do even when these lowlives were using their own names to spread lies about me and defame me.

1:08 pm edt 

Wednesday, July 20, 2016

Re: A Personal Opinion
 
"I hope this town realizes that all this sudden interest in gun control and all these named functions for "The Pulse" victims regarding an incident that happened half the country away makes this town looks like a giant bunch of bigots!............." 
 
Yes,  a personal opinion, thanks for saying it. Some do care and have cared about Newtown. So glad to be away from the narrow minds and pigeon holing labels.
8:26 pm edt 

Re: Hatch and Del Franco on the Beacon

The two Marks are indeed blabber mouths and it's clear they think women insignificant, straight or gay. Their thinly veiled kingly misogyny is obvious, yet they never hesitate to dish on other men using female pronouns, 'she' and 'her', etc. It's sooooooo old and obnoxious, and the 2Ms have no idea how rancid and piggy the conversations are on the Bacon (lol).
7:46 pm edt 

From: Wayne Martin

This is Wayne Martin I was stopped from commenting on the beacon because I went to the Town Manager and showed him all the crap that Hatch and Del Franco was posting on the Beacon. The very next day I was chastised for it and removed from the Beacon which I also showed the Town Manager. I did not call any women the C word that's the kind of talk that Hatch and some of the others on the Beacon use and worse NOT ME!!! Again Hatch and Del Franco are the ones who post lies anonymously not me.
7:44 pm edt 

From: Wayne Martin

This is Wayne Martin the person who stated I use a fake profile by the name of Jimmy Hurd is lying frigging coward!!! Mark Hatch and Oatsie Rogers came up with that and led people to believe it was me. Why else was this person allowed to say all the anti gay and anti decent human being crap that was said on the beacon without this so called Jimmy Hurd being immediately removed seeing how they are both the admins. I have screen shots of Private Messages going back and forth between us asking who he was and where he live. Again it is all a frigging lie to make me look bad in the public eye because Hatch knows I'm going to run again for selectmen. Hatch is pissed because I exposed him as the                    bigot that he is and is not man enough to do anything but sneaky underhanded crap about it!!!
7:42 pm edt 

An Opinion - Hate Speech

It's amazing how much negativity, lies and garbage is spread by this hate speech you foster here
7:39 pm edt 

Re: Hatch and Del Franco on the Beacon

The two "Marcs" on the fin com are an embarrassment to themselves and the town. They continue on facebook to drop irresponsible sophomoric bombs loaded with sexual innuendo. They must think they are funny but in reality they are coming off as rude children that are deliberately defying common sense and dignity. Sure, we have freedom of speech so let them keep up their nonsense to the point that Mary-Jo realizes that they are not good and serious representatives of the town. Members of town boards must be held to a decent level of decorum that is far above being clowns.
7:36 pm edt 

Re: Bike Stores - Names Matter

Unless you trademark your name anyone can use the same name. So if a smart, hardworking 24 year old kid decides to name his store Provincetown Bike Rentals,  I say good for him. Now if the guy who made a boat load of money off of this town over the years decides to take to social media and complain about this hard working kid, I say too bad.
5:47 pm edt 

Bigotry

BIGOTRY, a word used loosely,means intolerance! We're all quick to pass judgement on bigots! If we all exam our own conscience & stop licking our wounds,everyone harbors bigotry of one kind or another! If people don't think or agree with us we brand them bigots! We need o be accepting of other people with whatever foibles there are that ar foreign to our own! PEACE starts with us all,not makeovers to the way we believe! ACCEPTANCE is the key! Embrace it!
2:00 pm edt 

Hatch and Del Franco on the Beacon

Big surprise....nearly every day I lived there, for five LONG  years, I got that crap from somebody every time I opened my mouth -- on the street, online, didn't matter.  They hate straights in general, they hate straight women in particular. That's why I don't LIVE there anymore!!! If Jimmy Hurd is smart, he'll do what I was too much of a lady to do --                                                          .

"Hatch was stating this to Mr. Hurd because Hatch and Del Franco were spewing straight hating speech to Mr. Hurd who was stating his opinion on firearms and other topics which the two didn't agree with.
      I have a screen shot of it but could not find a way to post it here. In this does not even come close to worst that these two FinCom members have stated on the Beacon and other social media sites. "
1:58 pm edt 

Bike Stores - Names Matter

This Really Amazes Me

For several years this town has had a bike store next to the old community center called "Ptown Bike Store"...

This summer, another bike store opened up several blocks away called "Provincetown Bike Store"...

How in the world was this allowed ? I already heard, the two bike stores are getting each others customers and mail. When someone calls 4-1-1 it must be confusing and if one or the other needs Police-or-Fire, going to the wrong one could be potentially dangerous.

Who's responsible for this, I'm not sure but I do know the new bike store needs to change their name. Town Hall, I gotta say you screwed this one up and the Ptown Bike Store is owed an apology and maybe compensation for loss of business.
1:54 pm edt 

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

"I Don't want to see a Great Name of Provincetown Family on the Front Page"
 
Then you should not read the newspaper...
1:52 pm edt 

A Personal Opinion

I hope this town realizes that all this sudden interest in gun control and all these named functions for "The Pulse" victims regarding an incident that happened half the country away makes this town looks like a giant bunch of bigots! It shows that we as a town or at least a certain faction of this town only care about homosexuals and their plights! We had 21 children murdered right next door to us and not a frigging peep out of this town did I hear about gun control!  There are men, women and children being run over and blown up and cops being assassinated all over the country but what do I hear PULSE PULSE PULSE!!! What could have worst than our innocent children this countries future being slaughtered a short drive away?!?!  Well  our selectmen without our permission and certain people in this town answered it for all of us! Only we matter is the message that you sent loud, clear and unmistakenly obvious. I for the first time in my life as a mans whose family founded this town and Truro with all the other s... that has happened to this town and what it has become I'm disgusted and ashamed to call Provincetown my home!
1:50 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"Hatch was stating this to Mr. Hurd because Hatch and Del Franco were spewing straight hating speech to Mr. Hurd who was stating his opinion on firearms and other topics which the two didn't agree with. "

You're wrong. They replied because Wayne Martin, aka "Jimmy Hurd" was inciting the usual speech so he can play the victim. In fact, if you go and look at both Hatch's and DelFranco's comments on Bachelorette Parties, you can see each of them post time and time again that it wasn't a sexuality issue, but one of proper behavior. The replies to "Jimmy" were made because, after being tossed off for offensive remarks, they and everyone else were tired of his antics. Also, you'll be happy to note, that "Jimmy" was again tossed off for calling two women a word that begins with "C". So you might want to be careful who you're defending on here. Someone who regularly calls women the C word.
    
1:47 pm edt 

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

It does appear that E. Miller inserted race into his article when it had nothing to do with the facts of the case.

It makes one wonder when Miller brings up a two year old Wellfleet case what his bias is towards the individual.  And make no mistake about it Edward Miller frequently inserts his biases into his stories/editing.  Odd when he has absolutely no connection to Provincetown.
1:45 pm edt 

FinCom

The two Marks (Hatch and Del Greco)are very defensive about there roles on the Fincom. They cannot admit how bad they have made this important board. This is a board that has always represented the voters in matters of spending money and budgets, a watchdog group. Since both of them deny their roles and continue to walk in lockstep with their "customers", we will not trust this fincom. Let's hope, like electing trump, the pain will only last for one election!! I can't take Hatches inappropriate comments and shrill laugh, nor del marcos negative and all-knowing questions and baloney!! How did this happen??
1:43 pm edt 

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

All these articles about the new editor , whoever he is, do nothing to address the real issues at hand. These young men,  through their violent actions almost killed someone . This country is being torn apart by racial strife right now. To play those cards in regards to this situation diminishes the true bravery of real participants in the continuing struggle for equal rights in this country. For shame.
1:41 pm edt 

Re: Town on Autopilot?
                                                                                                                                         
"I don't care who is on vacation... what I care most about is how our little town functions -- especially at the height of the season. So far, everything has been status quo." 
 
Give it a rest, Darla...these town leaders are no better then the town leaders you worked for.
1:38 pm edt 

Sunday, July 17, 2016

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

I Don't want to see a Great Name of Provincetown Family on the Front Page

Are you kidding me? Violence has no place in this Town whether you are a native Indian, a Portuguese settler from the 1800's, transplanted bohemians from the Village or 2nd home owners, if a crime is committed, you must know that it will be known rather quickly in this Town. Tragedies strike families all the time, Packards, Lusters, Cabrals, Silva's !
8:16 pm edt 

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

MILLER is Just a Bigot

and his reporting is problematic and lacks objectivity. but then he doesn't even know and whom he is talking about because....he knows nothing about this town. He is joke pretending to be an editor.

and he is racist. he has written such a poor story but can put it on the front page since HE wrote it. he is such a know-nothing pretending to know and understand Provincetown. He is a sick joke.
8:15 pm edt 

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

Sure sounded like you were whining about Victor's situation not getting front page to me too! I for one am glad that the banner put pressure on the police to press charges against the person who put another in the hospital by almost beating him to death. It took over a month to do and I firmly believe nobody was going to be charged if a reporter from the Banner did corner our so called chief of police into doing so, that's why it most likely got front page and that's where it belonged.
8:13 pm edt 

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

"Except that there were homophobic slurs screamed during the attack, correct? What was the fight about then...young lions vs.aging kings...a drama between males? Tribes? Still, a few folks got the hell kicked out of them, and unfortunately, even prominent and wonderful families (Kennedy's excluded) can't stop front page news."
 
 

An objective reading of the article reveals:

No such homophobic slur is mentioned. It is only in your head

“Zach Luster, James and Dominic Richmond and Michael Locke were present during the incident but none of them have been charged.”

Then why were they mentioned?

“The second group was comprised of males in their late forties/early fifties, with no known propensity for violence,”

 

What kind of biased   reporting is this, when the reporter regurgitates the police opinion?  

“A light skinned [black male], identified as Silas Luster, punched Brennan in the temple and knocked him off of his bicycle.”

 

This reads like an article written by some southern rag sheet. What are the implications?

“Michael LaMontagne ran toward Brennan’s attackers and grabbed them and held them to the ground,”

 

In a court of law the question could be raised relative to LaMontagne, who was attacking whom? 

" ...there are in fact two police logs: “the public log and the real log.”

Why didn't the reporter raise this as an issue? 

My Take-Away: "Bad Reporting"! 

 
  • Edward Miller

  • Posted Jul. 14, 2016 at 2:32 PM
    Updated Jul 15, 2016 at 9:23 AM
     


    PROVINCETOWN — Two local men will face felony assault charges following a police investigation of a violent confrontation on Commercial Street early in the morning of Saturday, May 28. Silas J. Luster, 26, of Provincetown, who is a manager at Ciro & Sal’s, his father’s restaurant, and Alexander Rokicki, 27, of South Boston, who grew up in Truro, will be arraigned in Orleans District Court on July 26 on charges of assault and battery, assault and battery causing serious bodily injury and assault and battery with a dangerous weapon.
    The confrontation was initially reported as a “fight” between two groups, states the official police report by Detective Meredith Lobur. The first group was composed of males in their twenties, Lobur wrote. Her report says that Zach Luster, James and Dominic Richmond and Michael Locke were present during the incident, but none of them has been charged.
    “The second group was comprised of males in their late forties/early fifties, with no known propensity for violence,” Lobur wrote. Included in this group were brothers Michael LaMontagne of Provincetown and Russell LaMontagne of Winchester and Steven Brennan of Wellfleet.
    Michael LaMontagne, the most seriously injured in the incident, initially refused medical attention but vomited and collapsed about two hours later and was taken by ambulance to Cape Cod Hospital, where he underwent emergency brain surgery. Lobur’s report states that “LaMontagne’s skull had been shattered by a blow to the head. The fracture caused an arterial bleed in LaMontagne’s brain. … A titanium plate was inserted in LaMontagne’s skull to repair the damage.”
    Brennan suffered a concussion, the report states. Silas Luster and Rokicki are charged with assaulting both LaMontagne and Brennan.
    Michael LaMontagne is the founder and chief science officer of EndoBiome, a biotech start-up in Beverly. He holds a Ph.D. in microbiology from Boston University. Russell LaMontagne is the CEO of EndoBiome. Brennan works as an art director, dresser and property person in the film industry.
    The initial confrontation took place in the area of Lopes Square, the police report said, “apparently caused by a loud squeaking sound from Steven Brennan’s bicycle.” The younger men began yelling at the others and one of them “approached Michael LaMontagne in a threatening manner with his fists clenched and either raised his fist as if to strike LaMontagne, or puffed his chest into his,” Lobur wrote.
    A short time later, when the LaMontagnes and Brennan tried to leave the area, Lobur wrote, “in front of the old library and The Squealing Pig, a [white male] identified as Alexander Rokicki stepped out and grabbed the handlebars of Brennan’s bicycle. Rokicki straddled the front tire and twisted the bicycle. A light skinned [black male], identified as Silas Luster, punched Brennan in the temple and knocked him off of his bicycle and onto the cement. … Brennan was punched multiple times while on the ground.

“Michael LaMontagne ran toward Brennan’s attackers and grabbed them and held them to the ground,” the detective’s report continued. “Michael LaMontagne was struck on the side of the head while he was kneeling down with Rokicki and Silas Luster.”
The report states that Michael Locke and the Luster brothers fled the scene, and that Silas Luster ignored a police officer’s multiple requests to stop.
“The LaMontagne Group remained at the scene,” Lobur wrote, “and told officers that the incident was not a fight and that they had been ‘attacked.’ ”
The police report cited evidence from a surveillance video from the Velvet Lounge and the observations of a witness who was inside the Squealing Pig in finding probable cause to charge Silas Luster and Rokicki.
“We appreciate the efforts of the police department with respect to the investigation and the two suspects being charged,” Russell LaMontagne told the Banner by e-mail this week. “We hope the rest of the suspects identified to us by the police will be subsequently charged. My brother continues to recover and we would like to thank everyone who has wished him well.”
In an interview with the Banner, Michael LaMontagne said, “I hold every member of that group equally accountable. This was not a fight. It was just as if you were walking down the street and someone punched you in the head.”
He said that he had been planning to start work in a tenure track position at the University of Houston Clear Lake this fall but was waiting to see what the long-term effects of his head injury might be on his ability to fulfill those responsibilities.
The Provincetown police have repeatedly declined to comment on the case, citing the ongoing investigation. The public police log from May 28 indicates the incident, at 1:48 a.m., only as a “disturbance” on Freeman Street, and there is no reference to an assault having taken place. When asked about the omission of any reference to the crime in the log, a Provincetown official with knowledge of police procedures told the Banner that there are in fact two police logs: “the public log and the real log.”
Efforts to reach Silas Luster and Alexander Rokicki for comment were not successful.
Two years ago Silas Luster filed a lawsuit against Wellfleet Police Sgt. Michael Turner and the town of Wellfleet, claiming that his civil rights had been violated and that he had been singled out by the police because he is biracial. The suit grew out of an incident at Sol Restaurant in Wellfleet on Oct. 13, 2012.
 
 
Douglas Louison, the attorney who defended Sgt. Turner and the town against the civil rights suit, told the Banner last week that the suit was dismissed in federal court in December 2015 and there was a “confidential resolution” of the case. 
 
6:44 pm edt 

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

"..and I find the story racist--this is not a gay vs strait issue..."

Except that there were homophobic slurs screamed during the attack, correct? What was the fight about then...young lions vs.aging kings...a drama between males? Tribes? Still, a few folks got the hell kicked out of them, and unfortunately, even prominent and wonderful families (Kennedy's excluded) can't stop front page news.
6:33 pm edt 

Re: Town on Autopilot?

I don't care who is on vacation... what I care most about is how our little town functions -- especially at the height of the season. So far, everything has been status quo.

Let's take a moment to say two seldom used words to acknowledge our town leaders, one and all: THANK YOU!

Then take a deep breath. It's summer. Go enjoy the sunshine.

Love from P'town,

Darla
6:18 pm edt 

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

WHo is Ed Miller? IS he related to The Marilyn Miller reporter for the banner? What reporter's aren't expected to write sensationalism? It sells papers!  Look at the mess our country is in all written by sensational reporters! On the other side of that is that it shouldn't matter who & from what families people come,if It't newsworthy we should all read about it in the front page or wherever there is room in the paper! Stop complaining!
6:16 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

Mark Hatch's words on the Beacon to one Jimmy Hurd

(Hatch stating to Hurd because he is heterosexual) Poor baby how does is feel to be a minority WAHHHHHH go some place else if you want to be accepted, like Hyannis!!!

Hatch was stating this to Mr. Hurd because Hatch and Del Franco were spewing straight hating speech to Mr. Hurd who was stating his opinion on firearms and other topics which the two didn't agree with.
      I have a screen shot of it but could not find a way to post it here. In this does not even come close to worst that these two FinCom members have stated on the Beacon and other social media sites.
6:14 pm edt 

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

If a member of one of the "Great Families" did not get arrested for a heinous assault, they would not be on the front page of the paper. Blame the perpetrator not the messenger.
6:12 pm edt 

Re: Town on Autopilot?

It is summer and it is time for vacationers to be here and for our town officials to be here. It is not time for a town manager to go on vacation--try that in December.

What is he thinking or not thinking? This second vacation is rather odd of him to be away again. He was gone for ten days at Memorial Day Weekend when he is the security and safety officer---and now he is gone again??

Can anyone explain this?
2:04 pm edt 

The Beacon Has Gone Dark

There is nothing there. it is uninteresting and no relevant posting. Yawn and yawn again. Wake up guys or just forget it. Either you are real or you are irrelevant. It's in your hands.
2:02 pm edt 

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller
 
"Stop It!

More and more hate speech with a us vs them mentality." 
 
You Are Missing the Point About the Front Page Story

I feel badly about what happened to Victor and his partner and so wish it had never happened. It is tragic. But my point is that a "fight" that took in May is front page news when Victor's arrest and story--much more recent--is placed on page 4 or 5.

and I find the story racist--this is not a gay vs strait issue but one of how the reporting gets done. That Ed Milled decided to put this story of men who were born here and work here and some not even implicated in this "fight" on the front page is disgusting. It should never have been and given that we are dealing with a racial issue--it is worse in its telling. It is pure bigotry by this questionable Miller guy.

Again, this is not gay vs strait at all. I don't want to see victor's tragedy on the front page---but neither do I want a great family in Provincetown finding their lives on the front page.

That is the point!
1:58 pm edt 

Re: Town on Autopilot?

"He's putting in his time until he can retire, he's never said he wants anything more than that."

Status quo better than the alternative of hiring within to replace him.
1:55 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch - Posted on Provincetown Beacon

 
July 17 at 1:12pm
 
What we all want to know is how many male hookers are there to cater to the Evangelicals, and if any of our home-town hookers will be going to make some coin:
1:33 pm edt 

Re: Stop It!

"More and more hate speech with a us vs them mentality. Your(sic) upset that Victors(sic) story didn't get the front page well let me tell you I'm sure he's not! Stop trying to devide(sic) the town more than it is already. We already have people like Mark Hatch chair of FinCom posting on social media that heterosexuals are less than welcome in Ptown"

If you're going to make a statement like that, please quote the post where I said that. Otherwise, speaking of hate, don't use my name.

Mark Hatch
1:31 pm edt 

Stop It!

More and more hate speech with a us vs them mentality. Your upset that Victors story didn't get the front page well let me tell you I'm sure he's not! Stop trying to devide the town more than it is already. We already have people like Mark Hatch chair of FinCom  posting on social media that heterosexuals are less than welcome in Ptown, now we have people upset because a story involving gays got page 4 and and another story getting the front page! all I can say is stop it!!! Stop the Straight hating stop the prejudice and stop the childish crap and if need be get yourself into a program by the sounds of it you could certainly use it.
11:31 am edt 

Re: Town on Autopilot?
 
"Where the hell is David Gardner? He has gone totally silent. Not a peep."
  
David Gardner has not been and doesn't want to be a town leader.  If Panagore is on vacation Gardner holds down the fort, but that's it.  He's putting in his time until he can retire, he's never said he wants anything more than that.
11:26 am edt 

Re: Negative Economic Signs? - Things Are Looking Up!

Our economy is great. Restaurants are full and people are paying sky high prices.Not locals though.
11:24 am edt 

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

Well Ed Miller Couldn't Even successfully buy the Old Wellfleet Grocery Store

He wasn't even able to get that deal done years back and now he is a pretense of some kind of editor. and now, he is the judge of color!! Light skinner?? and what of whites? Does he have a test of how white some are ?

Ed Miller should be banned from any future front page stories. First, get to understand Provincetown, a town he has never lived in and is yet to even know. He pretends to know us---but he has no clue. And he is arrogant.

Enough outsiders, bring back those who know Provincetown and---respect this town.
10:55 am edt 

Re: Negative Economic Signs

Bad economic summer, not me!

This is the best summer I ever had financially. I credit it to good clean living and helping out anybody and everybody when l can. On the other hand people like the chair of FinCom whose hate speech, worpped thinking and disturbing actions are bordering on criminal. This man and DelFranco have absolutely no business representing this town in any capacity whatsoever they are corrupt liars and a total embarrassment to our town as members of the FinCom! Good job Mary Jo
10:29 am edt 

Negative Economic Signs

It's a bit early but too many signs are pointing to a weak season in local commerce.
9:05 am edt 

Saturday, July 16, 2016

Re: FinCom Has Lost Its Mojo - Chair at Fault

Clarence, Mike, Tom, Doug, that was a real Fincom, engaged and questioning and making good recommendations to the BOS. This fincom is bad, the Chair sounds like a hyena laughing inappropriately and kissing up to the Manager and the BOS. They are supposed to be the finan
cial watchdogs, not a rubber stamp for the town departments!
10:56 pm edt 

Social Media

So old and dated- so yesterday

could we have a blog that is current? Not yours but theirs is soooooo booooooring!
10:55 pm edt 

Town on Autopilot?

Where the hell is David Gardner? He has gone totally silent. Not a peep.
 
With Panagore on vacation, who is running the show?
 
Please don't tell me it's..........  
2:12 pm edt 

Re: FinCom Has Lost Its Mojo - Chair at Fault

I was confused when he did  it, but now I understand why Clarence Walker quit the Finance Committee.
He knew he would be swimming against the tide, especially, with both Mike Canizalles and Doug Cliggot gone. 
 
They were no rubber duckies. 
2:04 pm edt 

Re: FinCom Has Lost Its Mojo - Chair at Fault

Fin Com is Not what It Was

Bring Mike Canizalles back. He was strong and forceful and knew how to be Chair. He was great and he had balls. It was a strong Finance Committee dedicated to keeping finances in line and being there for the voters.

This group is a rubber stamp--or sometimes, a rubber ducky!
1:57 pm edt 

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

I Was Appalled at the Front Page "story"

It was poorly told and poorly reported. We have Lobhar's reports but little information on the when and the what. then we have two men on the ground being held down by the perpetuator when the guys on the ground are being arraigned. and why was it necessary to state the race of some--biracial (black) and not the others--white!!

This was a disgusting front page story and Ed Miller should be ashamed. this is not good journalism. It is racist and it reflects a lack of knowledge of this town.

What a disgusting piece of so-named journalism. Ed Miller is an embarrassment and the Banner falls even lower with his involvement.
1:55 pm edt 

Re: FinCom Has Lost Its Mojo - Chair at Fault

Our Fin Com has always been the voters "watch dog & we are glad they are! There will be Charter changes now & if it's not included in the Charter! I for one won't vote the Charter change & I will encourage all others.not to vote either! It's a Power Play by others to demean the Finance Committee!
10:37 am edt 

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

Ed Miller is under instruction by the publisher to create controversy.  On a regular basis he has taken stories submitted by reporters and changed them to create more controversy.  To a point that they no longer are true.
10:36 am edt 

Friday, July 15, 2016

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

I'll blame the editor too. Where did Ed get his info and why is it pertinent to inform people where the accused work? One of the involved people doesn't even work where the paper claims, hasn't for many years yet Ed and the editor go ahead and slander the company.  And why is it pertinent to list names of people that weren't charged? Perhaps he should tell us who drove by after the cops showed up or maybe where the accused peoples moms work.

The Banner continues to disappoint.
11:19 pm edt 

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

"Ed Miller Does Not Know Provincetown"
 
Ed Miller should write for the Cape Cod Times

I agree. He knows some towns but not this one. He has never lived here. He has never spent much time here. He is an outsider with arrogance and his reporting is poor.

Kaime come back soon.

Miller will destroy what is almost fully destroyed as a newspaper already.

Let him go back to Harvard Ma.
11:16 pm edt 

Re: Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

"Ed Miller Does Not Know Provincetown"

Shoot the messenger much!

When you attack the writer without addressing the article's facts, you look like the biased one.
7:33 pm edt 

Re: FinCom Has Lost Its Mojo - Chair at Fault

Re: Dan Hoort,you now have a new job in Wellfleet.


Sharon Lynne, Jeff Jaran, Dan Hoort
They've moved on, you should do the same.
Let it go, Let it go.  .   .
7:19 pm edt 

Re: FinCom Has Lost Its Mojo - Chair at Fault

I too have always considered FinCom to be the financial watchdog, if they aren't there to watch our finances for us then what?
7:16 pm edt 

Banner Front Page Article by Ed Miller

Ed Miller Does Not Know Provincetown

He comes into the Banner and w ites as if he knows this town. but he does not. He knows Wellfleet but hardly understands this place. and then he writes on the "fight" and places this story on the front page--while Victor's is place don page four. What a bigot. what a racist and even as he tells the story--it's disgusting. He is not objective but acts as if he knows this town when he is doing a story about people born here.

He even calls this place P-town. Please, know us before you dare to write about us.
4:46 pm edt 

Re: FinCom Has Lost Its Mojo - Chair at Fault

"How does this myth get perpetuated?  They are not, and never have been our financial watchdog. read the charter"
 
 
Dan Hoort,you now have a new job in Wellfleet. Why don't you concentrate on that position and promote your philosophy there. Its old and stale here in Provincetown. 
9:10 am edt 

Re: FinCom Has Lost Its Mojo - Chair at Fault
 
                                          
"How does this myth get perpetuated?  They are not, and never have been our financial watchdog. read the charter"
 
If the FinCom isn't a financial watchdog for us what useful purpose do they really serve?  I googled financial watchdog and finance committee and found a great number of Massachusetts towns consider their FinCom to be the financial watchdog.  If what you say is true I wonder why we don't consider them a financial watchdog.
9:02 am edt 

Re: Bear Week

Where are all the bears of yore?

1) Awaiting Trump's v.p. call.

2) Training for the Olympics.

3) Boycotting due to greedy Guest House owners.

4) Griping about tiny expensive drinks.

5) Two of the above.
9:01 am edt 

Thursday, July 14, 2016

Re: Sal's Restaurant Dead in the Water - Selective Application of Statutes

"the cuisine is good and this place has been open for forty years. what is the West End without Sal's Place?"

Sal's, as we knew it, is gone. The only thing that remains the same is its name.
9:47 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Restaurant Dead in the Water - Selective Application of Statutes

Sal's Restaurant: I would like to see it open! The owner is a proven professional with a "winner" restaurant in Boston. Can't this town just move forward and do the right thing?
8:44 pm edt 

Re: Victor DePoalo

Any clue why the Banner is not covering this?? Also, has anyone heard about the Nanny being charged?

https://ptownie.com/blogs/scene/victors-owner-arrested-for-stabbing-husband
8:05 pm edt 

Re: FinCom Has Lost Its Mojo - Chair at Fault

" Committee seems pretty loose considering they are our financial watchdog."

How does this myth get perpetuated?  They are not, and never have been our financial watchdog. read the charter.
7:58 pm edt 

Restaurateur denied bail; chef also arrested

By Edward Miller
Banner Staff
July 14, 2016 
 
PROVINCETOWN — Victor DePoalo, 54, remains in lockup after being denied bail at a dangerousness hearing in Orleans District Court last Friday following his arraignment on charges stemming from what police allege was a knife attack in a domestic incident at his home on Bradford Street Extension.

DePoalo, the owner of Victor’s Restaurant, pleaded not guilty on July 5, to charges of assault and battery on a family or household member, assault and battery with a dangerous weapon and armed assault to murder, court records show. The court ordered him held without bail for up to 120 days. He is scheduled to appear at a probable cause hearing in Orleans on Aug. 5.

The incident took place in the early morning hours of Monday, July 4 when police were summoned to the scene by reports of a violent argument that made “the walls shake,” according to the official police report. Officers Kevan Spoor and Tyler Dow and Sgt. Gregory Hennick responded and found a family member “covered in blood from head to toe” from numerous lacerations, according to Spoor’s report. He wrote that the injured person “is known to me from a previous domestic incident with Victor DePoalo but due to the substantial amount of blood” he was unable at first to recognize the person.

Hennick’s report described finding “blood on the dining room floor, the kitchen floor, on the living room carpet and on the carpet at the base of the staircase.” He and Officer Dow applied pressure to lacerations on the injured person’s leg, forearm and shoulder to control the bleeding until paramedics arrived.

DePoalo told Spoor that an argument escalated when he was punched in the face and “might have been hit with a picture frame,” Spoor wrote. “I asked DePoalo where he thought he was hit with a frame and he stated his head. I did not observe any cuts or red marks on or around his head. I asked DePoalo what happened after he got hit and he told me that he fought back. DePoalo stated that he was taught that if anyone hits you you fight back and you try and kill them.”

After questioning both parties and other residents and conferring with other officers on the scene, Spoor concluded that DePoalo was “the dominant aggressor in this incident” and advised him that he was being placed under arrest. Spoor’s report states that while being booked DePoalo said he had taken a “bump,” a term used to refer to a hit of cocaine, and had also consumed alcohol that evening.

The injured family member was taken to Cape Cod Hospital where medical personnel determined that the lacerations were in fact stab wounds, “to multiple locations, from [an] edged weapon,” according to Provincetown

Detective Meredith Lobur. Following the execution of a search warrant, the police arrested Christina Spencer, 44, a chef at Victor’s Restaurant who lives in an apartment in the same building, as an accessory after the fact. During the investigation, Spencer told Hennick there was “definitely not a knife” involved, according to his report. The police report also suggests that Spencer attempted to prevent the injured person from revealing that a knife was involved. She is scheduled for a pretrial hearing on Aug. 5.

The police were informed by residents of the house that there was a one-year-old child living there. Hennick asked to see the child and observed him “sleeping peacefully in his crib,” his report states. Spoor subsequently filed a report with the state Dept. of Children and Families.
7:55 pm edt 

Victor, Victor's and Others

How sad. How very sad.

Innocent until proven guilty.

7:35 pm edt 

Re: FinCom Has Lost Its Mojo - Chair at Fault

What in the world is FinCom doing approving 2013 minutes in 2016?   That's ridiculous!
7:33 pm edt 

Commercial Street Traffic

Are people made aware here in summer that the roadway is for traffic & all other is secondary? Bicycles are going in both directions on both sides of Commercial st. people are taking their sweet time walking in the middle & call drivers of vehicles names,stare us down or give us the middle finger salute as though it's off limits to traffic! I'm patient but I'm getting sick of that abuse!
7:32 pm edt 

Re: Bear Week

So the writer doesn't like Bear Week and especially a T-shirt someone was wearing.  Look in some of the windows on Commercial which aren't much better.  You also mentioned rudeness and a sense of entitlement, but every group has those goofballs in their mix.  You can't please everybody.  Others don't like Baby Dykes or Women of Color or Portuguese Festival activities or Circuit Boys or Fireworks or Girl Splashers or Families or Carnival themes or Labor Day peeps or Swim for Lifers or those annoying Tennessee Williams visitors. Still others hate Columbus Day and garage sales and Fantasia Fair and Halloween and Thanksgiving and Holly Folly. And many dislike New Year's activities.  Let's get rid of all theme weeks and see how local businesses will fare during the the the season.  Let's see who will still be here next year if all we rely upon are those busloads of Senior Citizens spending the day or the bridesmaids or the families who don't spend money because we charge them $40!
  to park in out lots (so I hear, I don't have a car).  Let's see how many Vacancy signs will go back up because guest houses won't be filled.  You were right when you said that it is all about money.  It is all about money.  People need it to survive. 
7:20 pm edt 

FinCom Has Lost Its Mojo - Chair at Fault

"Sad commentary about the business environment of Provincetown when a member of the finance committee admonishes people for voicing concern .  .  ."

I think the FinCom, especially the chair, is more concerned about being 'buddies' with the Town manager than providing a check and balance to town government.  And kudos to Steele for voting against a 2013 minutes approval because they were unreadable.  The rest of the committee didn't care.  Committee seems pretty loose considering they are our financial watchdog.
11:48 am edt 

Re: Town Hall - No Oversight - A Very Ugly Scenario

Unlimited money, 365 and board members= special rules.
10:20 am edt 

Re: Sal's Restaurant Dead in the Water - Selective Application of Statutes

Sad commentary about the business environment of Provincetown when a member of the finance committee admonishes people for voicing concern about the opening of Sal's Restaurant. We the people are idiots and the half dozen or more vacant store fronts in town this season prove that the town manager and the town boards know best.
8:43 am edt 

Re: Sal's Restaurant Dead in the Water - Selective Application of Statutes

"Why is that Canteen can build a bench and service area right outside their new donut shop with no ZBA Variance, no Historic commission review, no Building permit. No Extra gallons for the bench seats, GOD forbid we enforce the rules to them! The darlings of downtown, what a joke!"

Probably because they have unlimited money behind them. It makes all the difference in this town, believe me. It's hard to fail when you have a trust fund.
8:41 am edt 

Re: Sal's Restaurant Dead in the Water - Selective Application of Statutes

"Something's amiss. who is to blame for delaying this opening??"

Sort of like the aliens in NM.  Government conspiracy for sure.
8:39 am edt 

Re: Sal's Restaurant Dead in the Water - Selective Application of Statues

Sal's Has Been a Great Restaurant

and I know many who are waiting for this Italian restaurant to open. but I am not clear why it is not open. Every other restaurant is open and so---why not Sal's? the cuisine is good and this place has been open for forty years. what is the West End without Sal's Place? so what is going on when a small restaurant can't open? Something's amiss. who is to blame for delaying this opening??
12:40 am edt 

Wednesday, July 13, 2016

Re: Sal's Restaurant Dead in the Water - Selective Application of Statues

SELECTIVE ENFORCEMENT

Why is that Canteen can build a bench and service area right outside their new donut shop with no ZBA Variance, no Historic commission review, no Building permit. No Extra gallons for the bench seats, GOD forbid we enforce the rules to them! The darlings of downtown, what a joke!
11:59 pm edt 

This is a Test

Testing this forum to see if it's still active!
7:22 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall - No Oversight

It does appear that the Town Planner is everywhere at once and without any oversight.
 
She injects herself into health issues, she is constantly interfering with the Fire Chief on behalf of Developers, she presents herself as the Assistant Environmental Planner and god knows  what else.
 
It is fair to ask, what is this person's qualifications? What are her CV's and certifications? This town is known to skirt State mandated requirements. Our Health Officer is not a certified sanitarian. We promoted a part time Housing Specialist at $65,000 to a full time position at $110,000 knowing full well that she is about to retire at that "higher pay grade". WTF? You can't make this up.
 
While all this is happening the Town Manager is constantly flooding the social media with his "happy face local color comments.  
 
No Oversight! 
7:20 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Restaurant Dead in the Water - Selective Application of Statues

This town was better off without the Town Planner. She seems to be screwing  with so many businesses, now it's the Sal's location. Remember the fiasco on Shank Painter she created?
6:49 pm edt 

Provincetown - "Den of inequity"?

We're called then"Den of inequity" because that's what we've become! No Class,No Morals! Just do & say what you want in P'Town! Nothing else matters - just your checkbook! Pigs & not a Police reference either!
6:43 pm edt 

Re: Victor's Restaurant
 
I believe the Licensing Board is charged with following the laws and guidelines of the ABC Commission--not what they might want to do.
 
People have known Victor for a long time and I don't think anyone would purposely make things any harder on him than they already are.
 
6:40 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Restaurant Dead in the Water - Selective Application of Statues

RE:  Sal's
If you are so concerned why don't you go to the Department of Community Development and ask?  Or are you afraid there may be valid reasons as to why Sal's has not received all of their approvals to open?
I guess it's easier to demand answers on a blog than to do anything that involves any effort, like picking up a phone, going to Town Hall, etc.
10:20 am edt 

Re: Bear Week

Glad I'm not the only one who isn't particularly fond of bear week. Like any other large theme group who comes to visit in the summer, they also bring rudeness and a sense of entitlement, not to mention downright tackiness. Saw a guy yesterday morning wearing a shirt that said "I heart CUM PIGS."

But they spend money and everyone knows that's all that matters in our town. Sad but true. P'town would probably welcome a serial killer convention with open arms if they filled up all the guesthouses and patronized local eating and drinking establishments.
10:18 am edt 

Re: Town Hall - No Oversight - A Very Ugly Scenario

We want jobs in this town but we roadblock so many business ventures ( Sal's, Martin House,the club at Ryder's, the loss of the Pirate Museum, limited service at Harbor Lounge etc.) . We are truly a bipolar community. It seems this town wants to become a totally government benefit supported town with everyone not working, everyone with affordable housing, everyone receiving unemployment. No wonder the BOS and town wants to develop every inch so the rich can support the rest of the us . A very ugly scenario.
10:14 am edt 

Re: Town Hall - No Oversight

Who's running the show here in Provincetown. This new Town Manger does not seem to have a clue as to how to  structure town organizational management


I doubt you really know the organizational structure of town hall, but assuming you do the Town Manager runs the show.  For the most part he has to work with the staff he inherited other than the finance director who left.  It's very tough to find quality people who want to work out here at the end of the world, you work with what you have.

Give him a chance, but realize he is not going to be able to change everything overnight.
10:10 am edt 

Tuesday, July 12, 2016

Re: Sal's Restaurant Dead in the Water - Selective Application of Statues

Sal's Restaurant: I would like to see it open! The owner is a proven professional with a "winner" restaurant in Boston. Can't this town just move forward and do the right thing?
11:12 pm edt 

Restaurant Licenses

I don't know enough about Sal's to comment.

Re: Victor's, I'd be worried if town boards started becoming the morality police. The situation with the owner is certainly alarming, but no one has been found guilty of anything.
Do we pull a license for someone who is innocent until proven guilty?
Do we pull a license if a registered sex offender is employed?
What infractions allow a board to pull a license, who gets to decide, do they only have to be charged with an offense, or do they actually have to be found guilty?

It's a slippery slope.
6:13 pm edt 

Town Hall - No Oversight

Who's running the show here in Provincetown. This new Town Manger does not seem to have a clue as to how to  structure town organizational management.
 
The Town Planner has been given authority that was never intended, when the position was approved at Town Meeting. The insane asylum is being ran by the inmates.  
1:02 pm edt 

Happy 365 Gloria!

The town needs to be careful when it comes to helping businesses survive. You can't give one trolley/cab company free parking then prevent a preexisting restaurant location from opening under new ownership. I heard today that the licensing board is trying to pull Victor's liquor license. All  those people with jobs will be screwed. Happy 365 Gloria!
12:56 pm edt 

Re: Dumpster on Pleasant st.

Instead of whining about it on here, make a call to the police and fire department.  If there is a violation blocking access to emergency vehicles, they are the ones who will take care of it, not anybody reading this!
12:54 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Restaurant Dead in the Water - Selective Application of Statues

Did I read this right? The Town wants to block Sal's restaurant from opening when it has been a restaurant for eons, but they allowed the "Home at Last" building next door to become that ugly monstrosity that has ruined the look of the neighborhood! Throw them all out of office if they are being selective with some can & some can't laws that they make up as they go depending on how much it's worth to them! Whoa!
12:01 pm edt 

Re: Sal's Restaurant Dead in the Water - Selective Application of Statues

 

What is Happening at Sal's?

I've been looking forward to great food and Italian dinners but they are not yet open. who is stopping this restaurant from opening? It is long past July 4th and any restaurant wants to be open by Memorial Day.

so who knows what is happening and who is to blame for trying to keep this restaurant closed???

11:59 am edt 

Sal's Restaurant Dead in the Water - Selective Application of Statues

Word on the street is that the Town is determined to prevent Sal's Restaurant from opening. They have thrown every road block possible in their way to delay and kill this season for the new owner, which is tantamount to a death knell.
 
Someone in town government is taking the lead in this action. Why?
 
It looks like it will be going to court and an investigation will be made by State and Federal officials. 
9:16 am edt 

Construction Problems!!

There is a dumpster on Pleasant St. that is blocking the road. I am not sure how many feet must be left to pass but several trucks have had to back up to accomodate this. I dont think emergency vehicles can get past.  Shame on these contractors thinking they can just come in here and do whatever they want, whenever they want!!
9:03 am edt 

Re: How Bad is the Provincetown Banner?

I stopped reading the Banner years ago. I go to capecodtimes online. The Banner is really just for certain real estate companies to show their listings which is a waste since anyone searching for a home would do an internet search.

9:01 am edt 

Re: Bear Week

To the somebear that keeps planting pro-bear comments on this blog: some like 'em, some don't. What we don't need is your cheerleading in the background.
9:00 am edt 

Sunday, July 10, 2016

MYPACC Administrator

To whomever is spreading the rumor - I am not now, nor have I ever been, the administrator of MYPACC. Right Clarence?
 
Mary-Jo Avellar
 
Webmaster Comment: There is only one Administraor of MYPACC and Mary-Jo Avellar not associated with MYPACC.
 
 
7:04 pm edt 

Re: Construction Law Question

My understanding of the law concerning noise emanating from work being done by commercial workers is it can occur between 7 am and 7 pm Monday through Saturday, no commercial work on Sunday generally. Before and after 7 am and 7 pm, noise is restricted to domestic noise, and after 10 pm, I think it's supposed to be all quiet. Any noise on Sundays is usually allowed unless there is a complaint. Domestic noise, that created by the property owner like radios, lawn mowers, chain saws etc. can occur on Sunday no problems again, so long as the neighbors don't complain.

At least that's how I've guided myself over the past 20 years as a contractor.
6:58 pm edt 

Re: Construction Times

13-2-21.    Construction time. 
Exterior repairs and construction shall not take place until after 7
a.m. and closing time ending at 9 p.m.
6:57 pm edt 

Re: How Bad is the Provincetown Banner?

I'm sorry that vindictive people are so negative towards the Banner paper! I don't see the making an attempt for competition,if they think they can do better! It's the only weekly local  news we have to keep us apprised of happenings & deaths of people we know! I don't subscribe because I don't want to wait for "snail mail" arrival! I pay the $2.00 weekly to get a quicker copy of my "bedtime reader"! I could get it by computer but I like holding & reading hard copy on Thurs.! Stop complaining & start your own paper or shut up!!! I'm not connected to the paper! I'm a citizen who likes it & doesn't "wrap fish in it!"
6:55 pm edt 

Re: How Bad is the Provincetown Banner?

"In other words, in order for this "one local resident" to wrap fish with the Bannet, he or she had to buy it."


A large number of businesses get it free.  I wonder what their paid subscriber base is, probably not too much.
6:51 pm edt 

Re: Bear Week

Thank God for the Bears, wish the town did even more to welcome these guys who spend spend spend and bring joy all around!
6:50 pm edt 

Saturday, July 9, 2016

When Personal Problems Become Public Venue

I Feel So sorry that Personal Problems become Public Venue

It is tragic and sad. I feel badly for all involve and know that anger can explode and the results are more than hurtful. For all involve, I feel terrible.
6:20 pm edt 

Construction Law Question

Are there rules governing when you can do construction in Provincetown.
They began working with nail guns and compressors at 730 this morning on Pleasant st.
Several neighbors have come out to complain, because this is  a saturday in July!!!!
6:18 pm edt 

Bear Week!

ahhhh Bear week-the friendliest group!!!
6:17 pm edt 

Re: How Bad is the Provincetown Banner?

"As one local resident said 'I use it to wrap fish', that's the extent of its usefulness."

In other words, in order for this "one local resident" to wrap fish with the Bannet, he or she had to buy it.
6:13 pm edt 

Re: Vincent Currier
                                    
"Speaking of Pigs, Vincent

whether you fly or not, you are a woman hater, a prig,........."
 
 
A prig calling another a prig on a blog... sure you find most perverse.  
6:06 pm edt 

Friday, July 8, 2016

Re: How Bad is the Provincetown Banner?

In defense of the Banner it is perfect for training small dogs.
5:18 pm edt 

Nantuckett is Not the Solution

I see the Kelly property at 60 Bradford has been sold to a developer.  Another 9 year-round rentals soon to be condos due to an ineffective group of Selectmen.

They sit around and talk and talk some more while Rome is burning.  And then they travel to Nantuckett so we can all agree there is a housing problem.
5:17 pm edt 

Print Them All or None of Them!!!

Who are you to pick and choose print them all or none of them!!!

Once  again the admins post hateful trash talk against an individual "Vincent Currier" which serves no purpose to help our town or country but refuse to post  truthful posts about the corruption and crimes that is going on in our towns government and that are being committed by town employees! Also they refuse to post our ideas on how we can make our Ptown a safer and cleaner place to live why is that. It seems to me that Mr. Walker who it's my understanding is still one of the Admins is not doing the posting anymore because at least he was fair and impartial on what he posted usually just censoring the curse words and such. So with that being said I think it's time Mypacc Shout Out would be best served letting him handle this site because it has really gone done hill. The people in this town and Truro deserve to know what's goin on in their towns and it should not be up to the towns moderator, TM or members of FinCom to decide if they do or not.
5:08 pm edt 

Re: How Bad is the Provincetown Banner?

The banner is a tabloid filled with gossip and fluff.  You are kidding yourself if you expect real journalism from a tabloid.  As one local resident said 'I use it to wrap fish', that's the extent of its usefulness.

What surprises me is why businesses advertise in it.  I never use it to locate a business, or to find out what's going on in town.
5:00 pm edt 

Re: Victor DePaulo

I feel most sorry not for Victor- but for that sweet child of his. What is his fate?
4:58 pm edt 

Thursday, July 7, 2016

Re: Vincent Currier

Speaking of Pigs, Vincent

whether you fly or not, you are a woman hater, a prig, and you should be totally ashamed of yourself. I am disgusted by your comments on Hillary and find you perverse.
11:23 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Reality

'To have a person in a place such as Provincetown '


Such a place as Provincetown? this town doesn't live up to it's tolerant billing, so many people see what they want too, and ignore the reality of there being no shortage of bigots in Provincetown.
11:22 pm edt 

Re: How Bad is the Provincetown Banner?

The banner editor and staff focus their investigative reporting on trying to find out why the new Wellfleet TA isn't starting as originally scheduled.  But when a real story comes up about a big developer and restaurant owner being arrested for attempted murder the editor and staff are strangely silent.

It must be if you advertise in their paper you get a free ride.  Integrity at its lowest.
11:19 pm edt 

Re: How Bad is the Provincetown Banner?

Why is it that in todays Banner dated July 7 2016  only Christina Spenser shows up in the law and order report and not Victor DePoalo who is in jail without bail...

11:17 pm edt 

West End

SEEMS THE WEST END IS ERUPTING IN VIOLENCE.........!
11:16 pm edt 

How Bad is the Provincetown Banner?

A leading businessman and developer in town is arrested for stabbing his husband, with their child in the house, and there is no mention of it in our newspaper of record? But the front page news "don't bike while drunk" and "eels want to have fun."

Newspapers and reporting are vital to communities. Without it, rumors and misinformation take over, and the conversation is debased.

1:12 pm edt 

Re: Bikers

I'm new to this town/state but aren't bicyclists held to the same traffic laws as drivers?

In other states you have to ride with the flow of traffic. Not so here?
1:10 pm edt 

Judy Polay

DEARLY DEPARTED

How sad to hear the Dear Judy Polay who used to own the little store died yesterday. I was one of her students too from the years when she was a school teacher here in town.
1:09 pm edt 

Re: Victor DePoalo
 
Cape Cod Times
 
By Mary Ann  Bragg 
Posted Jul. 5, 2016 at 8:54 PM 

PROVINCETOWN — A Provincetown man is scheduled for a dangerousness hearing Friday after being arrested Monday on assault charges related to an incident involving a knife, according to a police report.
Victor DePoalo, 54, pleaded not guilty Tuesday in Orleans District Court to charges of assault and battery on a family or household member, assault and battery with a dangerous weapon and armed assault to murder, court records showed. The records indicated a judge found that abuse, as defined in state law, occurred immediately prior to or in conjunction with the charged offense.
DePoalo was held without bail becuase due to the seriousness of the charge and the abuse finding, the court records showed.
Police were called at 1:35 a.m. Monday to 160 Bradford St. Extension, Unit 2, where they found a family member covered in blood with head, shoulder and leg cuts, the report of Provincetown Patrol Officer Kevan Spoor stated. A few other people were at the residence, including Christina Spencer, 44, who lives there and who also was arraigned Tuesday in Orleans District Court on a charge of accessory after the fact, court records showed.
After an investigation at the scene, Spoor determined that DePoalo was the dominant aggressor in the incident and he was arrested, the police report stated. The incident was related to messages on DePoalo’s phone that the family member had seen and disliked, based on the family member’s version of the incident, Spoor’s report stated.
The injured family member was taken to the hospital for treatment, the report stated.
The police contacted state Department of Children and Families because there was a baby in the residence during the incident, and Spoor was to provide a report of the facts of the case to those officials, according to the report.
Spencer is scheduled for a pretrial hearing on Aug. 5.
9:26 am edt 

Re: Bikers

Bicycle riders are a problem every year.  I've yet to read of a realistic solution on here or anywhere else.  Police enforcement is nearly impossible unless you bring in a larger summer force and put them on bikes
9:16 am edt 

Re: Victor DePaulo


Read the CCT to and was shocked as Victor was arrested for assault on a family member with out bail.

The article said the family member was knifed by Victor.

9:15 am edt 

Victor Depoalo

Wow!

Just read in today's CCT Victor Depoalo was arrested for assault and battery charges on a family member and held without bail.

Child services was called, so sad
9:13 am edt 

Re: Caitlin Jenner

How does Mark Cortale feel about booking Catlin Jenner now?
9:12 am edt 

Re: Caitlin Jenner

"Hate speech, my ass....

The DSM-V is highly controversial and not accepted by significant numbers of psychiatrists, see:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/dsm5-in-distress/201212/dsm-5-is-guide-not-bible-ignore-its-ten-worst-changes

and here:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/controversial-update-to-psychiatry-manual-dsm-5-arrives/ "

Like many shrinks, I'll stick with the DSM-IV...

Jenner is just a rich, self-entitled white guy trying to appropriate what he thinks is women's experience, and invade their safe places...body dysmorphia, autogynephilia and narcissism...
9:09 am edt 

Re: Caitlin Jenner

"Mentally fit or not, Bruce Cait Jenner has no business yammering on about the lives of women. I hold firmly she is not a woman, but I have little concern what she does to her body to titilate the world."

You can hold whatever you choose.  However, Jenner is totally free to express opinions whether you agree or not.  To have a person in a place such as Provincetown want to deny other people of their rights and choices that don't hurt others, is beyond my comprehension.   I. for one, couldn't care less about the particulars of his/her (or anyone else's) gender and what definition was used.  If you don't like it don't listen or watch.  You have the same right to "yammer" as Jenner or anyone else.
9:06 am edt 

Re: Business Practices

If you're receiving unfair treatment from your employer or know of someone who is please contact our office of US Department of Labor Wage and Hour Division.

We already have some businesses with multiple complaints but the more complaints the better and we can start a collective action lawsuit against them with 5 or more.

(617) 624-6700

9:03 am edt 

Wednesday, July 6, 2016

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7:53 pm edt 

Re: Bikers

"Police Reports are Riddled with Stopping and Driving Under the Influence and some drugs but they never report those who are hurt in bicycle accidents and they don't report those who die in bicycle accidents. maybe it's time to report what is really going on----and also in some strange dark places here in town. It's as if they are saying: Look here. then look there, while what is really happening is right in front of us but hardly discussed or mentioned."

OK, some of the folks who spend all summer every year posting on this blog about "deadly bicyclists" need to get a grip. I mean, are you really insinuating that there's some kind of police cover-up so the public won't know the truth about bicycle accidents? I'm sorry, but that sounds a little crazy and very paranoid. Way too many conspiracy theorists posting on this blog, and for some reason there is a small group of them that seem particularly fascinated with bicyclists.

I say use the sidewalk if you're afraid of bikes. Or better yet, find some other hobby.
7:51 pm edt 

Re: Bikers

"...but they never report those who are hurt in bicycle accidents and they don't report those who die in bicycle accidents."

This is great point.
7:48 pm edt 

Re: Business Practices

 

It's not just the J1s that people try to possess.

People have to hide people staying with them cuz they aren't allowed to leave people in their rooms while not there.

Others have to deal with shitty attitudes and live without our be put on the streets.

Others just sit outside their guest house smoking and talking shit nightly because they hate their jobs.

7:26 pm edt 

Tuesday, July 5, 2016

Re: Caitlin Jenner

Mentally fit or not, Bruce Cait Jenner has no business yammering on about the lives of women. I hold firmly she is not a woman, but I have little concern what she does to her body to titilate the world.
10:57 pm edt 

Re: Caitlin Jenner

As one accused of being ignorant of knowing about transgendering the poster couldn't be further from the truth! The poster was insulting to say the least re CaitlinJenner "as being a surgically manipulated boy in a dress" while the poster is not! it's one & the same! Jenner made people upset as a white rich privileged Republican which is her political prerogative! She doesn't have to be Democrat to be transgendered!! I didn't make up the scientific interpretation of mental illness related to transgendering! It's scientific fact that some can't accept!
10:55 pm edt 

Re: Bikers

Police Reports are Riddled with Stopping and Driving Under the Influence and some drugs

but they never report those who are hurt in bicycle accidents and they don't report those who die in bicycle accidents. maybe it's time to report what is really going on----and also in some strange dark places here in town.

It's as if they are saying: Look here. then look there, while what is really happening is right in front of us but hardly discussed or mentioned.
10:53 pm edt 

Re: Caitlin Jenner

The following post is pure, ignorant hate speech:

"Caitlin Jenner

This person is not a woman; he is a surgically manipulated boy in a dress, filled with rich white male privilege, appropriating women's life experiences.  HE is person with a DSM-IV certified disorder."

4:12 pm edt 

Re: Caitlin Jenner

To the person who cited the DSM-IV (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual), which is used by Mental Health professionals to categorize and diagnose mental illness, please remember that until December 1973 (when I was a young gay man), the authors of the DSM-II listed homosexuality as a mental illness.  I can understand that you don't like Caitlin, but to arbitrarily cluster all transgendered people as mentally ill (because you read it in a book) only shows how ignorant YOU are.  You conveniently leave out the changes made in the DSM-5 (2013) which changes most of what is spewed out in the previous edition. According to the American Psychiatric Association, "This marks a historic milestone for people who are transgender and gender non-conforming, as their identities are no longer classified as a mental disorder. Homosexuality was similarly declassified as a mental disorder in 1973".  It is better to be informed before you make blanket statements about people for which you have no knowledge.
4:10 pm edt 

Caitlin Jenner

This person is not a woman; he is a surgically manipulated boy in a dress, filled with rich white male privilege, appropriating women's life experiences.  HE is person with a DSM-IV certified disorder.
3:12 pm edt 

Re: Incompetent Selectmen

While this mainly applies to one or two Selectmen, the others are complicit in their silence.

YOUR silence makes you complicit also.
1:47 pm edt 

Business Practices

Can we discuss business owners and the practice of holding housing over people's heads?

j1 students aren't property

People in general aren't property

You are only as strong as your assets and your strongest assets are you employees

Treat people fairly and they will always have your back
10:58 am edt 

Provincetown Beacon - Mark Hatch

So over on the Beacon Facebook page, a pic of 3 overly buffed male "police officers" are depicted wearing "uniforms" fit for a prono shoot. And Mark Hatch, chair of the Finance Committee, makes a typically uncouth comment about how "his" Comittee would gladly approve of such police wear. I can't even...you represent the whole town, Mark. Stop playing to a cadre of myopic, immature old fa#ts, stuck at 13
years old. Your sexualized behavior is unprofessional and a constant insult to the rest of us, especially on a public page. Grow the heck up.
10:56 am edt 

Provincetown Parking

Parking fees in private lots. The town promotes visters to come, and then when all  town lots are full, we see the private lots  on Shank Painter Road open up to charge $20 to $30 and last year for carnaval $40 to park for a few hours. The charity parking by the Lions club does not even charge that much. Why not direct the overflow to park free along route six from traffic lights to Herring Cove both side????

10:55 am edt 

Incompetent Selectmen

We are saddled with incompetence at the Selectmen's table.  It's rare that you see this much self serving ignorance in one body.  This group, and one in particular, are stunning in their disregard for conflict of interest laws.  It s all about how town government can be manipulated to benefit them.  While this mainly applies to one or two Selectmen, the others are complicit in their silence.

Taxpayers be damned, especially if you get in the way.
10:54 am edt 

Re: Bikers

2 Bicycle Incidents in Provincetown - Both Bicyclists Crash And Are Transported to Cape Cod Hospital

As posted on capecod.com
July 3, 2016
Tim Caldwell


"PROVINCETOWN  A man was injured in a bike accident in Provincetown late Sunday evening.  According to reports, two bikes collided on Shankpainter Road by the Herring Cove Animal Hospital.  One of the riders suffered an apparent head injury.  He was put in a collar and on a backboard and transported to Cape Cod Hospital. Provincetown Police are investigating the incident.

About an hour and a half later, another bicyclist crashed on Standish Street.  He was also boarded and collared and taken to Cape Cod Hospital."

10:52 am edt 

Monday, July 4, 2016

To: Administration
                                         
"Try posting every bodies posts not just the ones that share your same believes and views.  
Everything I Post gets Posted"

Maybe you are crass and vindictive and too nasty. Try making whatever point you have with some level of facts and objectivity. Perhaps this is a standard just too high for you.
3:50 pm edt 

Re: Town Manger

I like the town manager and the police chief because there is no drama in town government anymore. Thank you very much.
1:15 pm edt 

Sunday, July 3, 2016

Re: Town Manger

"Strange dude indeed, hyperactive and another heart attack waiting to happen................."

I am not a crdiologist so can't comment on his heart, but iwill agree with the srtange.  I have talked with him several times and find that he seems detached and then the next time that I met him he acts like it is the first.  Knock, knock, anyone home?  Lights on but.....
9:13 pm edt 

To: Administration

Try posting every bodies posts not just the ones that share your same believes and views.
10:50 am edt 

Re: Who's on First? What's on Second?

Too many crowns in this town!!

I hope that is indeed correct so Mr Murray can relinquish his tiara
10:40 am edt 

Re: Fourth of July

Just Have a Happy Fourth

Yes, there are many issues here in town and it is sad but to al Happy Fourth! Maybe in spite of it all, we will have a wonderful Fourth of July!  We surely deserve it and thanks to all!
10:24 am edt 

Re: Town Manger

As town manager any results you may be able or not able to achieve are directly related to the BOS.  Would you want to work with that incompetent group of five on your back?  It's a no win situation, he's basically trying to keep his head above water.
10:22 am edt 

Re: Town Manager


I find the Town Manager to be knowledgeable and have never felt that he talks incessantly so one can't get a word in. I have had some very interesting conversations with him and never have found what you said to be true.

I guess the honeymoon is over and it is gang up on the Town Manager time!
10:20 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

Strange dude indeed, hyperactive and another heart attack waiting to happen.................

Also transgressive and disrespectful to employees, are you listening Selectmen?  Is a climate of fear what you want the town to be run by?

Time to start listening closely and paying attention; does he have all this time that he has to write every quote for the Tourism press releases?

Man, the VSB bully is not the only one to worry about.

Time for people to speak out!
10:19 am edt 

Re: Caitlin Jenner

Transgendering  according to scientific medical statistics is related to mental illness & people shouldn't support a condition like mental illness! It is reported that cross dressers are understandable,but when body parts are rearranged to be opposite sex,that's considered mental illness! Their DNA can never be changed!
10:12 am edt 

Re: Who's on First? What's on Second?

No one Said Crown Pointe was Up for Sale

but what I read is that the owners of Crown Pointe are perhaps buying the Crown and anchor. Please, keep your crowns in order! Keep them straight!!(that is a joke)
10:10 am edt 

Friday, July 1, 2016

Re: Town Manager

"TM seems like a strange dude...  My imagination?  or shared?"

I agree... strange!  Have you ever had a conversation with him?  He talks incisively so that you cannot get a word in edge wise.  He keeps tying in past experiences and observations without hardly taking a breath.  I think his non-stop talking is a sign that he feels he is in way over his head and if he acts like he is knowledgeable on EVERY subject he can fool us.  Yup, an odd dude!!!
10:24 pm edt 

Re: Town Manager Strange???

You'd have to be at least a little strange to want to be the ringmaster of the three ring circus known as Poisonous  Provincetown Politics.
10:21 pm edt 

Caitlin Jenner

I'm really surprised and frankly somewhat angered by all the hoopla regarding Caitlin Jenner's visit to Provincetown. Earlier this week she was in the news praising Trump and claiming he's an advocate for LGBT and women's issues (does she live on Mars!?!) and in the past she's been a vocal supporter of Ted Cruz! This woman is clearly out of touch with reality and is a piss-poor example for the kids she was brought here to speak to. Inviting her here was a dumb idea, plain and simple. There are many great, interesting LGBT role models that could have come here to speak (Jenner doesn't even consider herself a part of the LGBT community) but instead we went for the celebrity factor. Pretty pathetic. What is the message we're sending the kids of Camp Lightbulb by having Jenner speak to them? That it's OK to be gay, but you don't deserve the right to marry? That if you're Mexican you should be deported as Trump suggests?

And now I look at facebook and see dozens of gay people proudly posting their selfies with this reality television star who would happily deny them equal rights. What a sad and pathetic culture we have become.
12:28 pm edt 

Whose on First? What's on Second?

Verified ..Crowne Pointe is not for sale
12:26 pm edt 

Commercial Street? Police Chief?
 
I have never seen him on the street. Never has he attended any tourism function, at least Jaren did. Please, can anyone tell me if chief Golden has been seen walking Commercial Street or stop into any of the businesses. He hasn't mine.  I wasn't even surprised to read in the local rag that after Orlando, it was Selectman Andrews and the town manager who paid a visit to check on our local clubs. No police chief in attendance.                                                                                                                
12:24 pm edt 

Town Manager

TM seems like a strange dude.  Far away look in his eye and seems like he just landed on earth a few minutes ago.  My imagination?  or shared?
8:39 am edt 


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