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Wednesday, September 30, 2015

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

Yes it will cost $7 million and more if the heating system is not fixed now and we take advantage of the 50% grant or $3.5 millin the school worked hard to get for the past three years to get. 

Pipes to the system we the original 1932 pipes.  The heating system was removed from the 2004 renovation of the high school building because the selectmen didn't want to pay for it

This had been on the capital improvement list

Vote yes for this and pay half. The grant will not be available again.

This town asset will be done and the torn can move on to other buildings it needs to fix

6:23 pm edt 

Let's Get Our Financial Priorities in Line

Instead it seems who shows up demanding  money. what do we want for this town? and let's realize that we can't have everything. that's exactly where priorities come in.

We've yet to do this.
6:22 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public School System
 
THANK YOU AFFORDABLE HOUSING!!

The school is being considered for re-opening due to all the success of the affordable housing. How you ask? Prior to all of the new affordable housing, the number of kids at high school age was dwindling due to families leaving town for various reasons and thus, the high school was closed. Affordable housing is built, couples and families move in, families have kids and the couples eventually usually do and those kids enter the existing elementary school. These kids get older and now the numbers are there to open the high school again. Success!!
6:20 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

Too Much Being spent on a building

A heating system and windows for over $7 million? Oh, and half is being paid by the state on a grant.
Grant me some relief. enough on this old and classic building. Maybe the students should have stayed in the building built for them instead of rushing them to the High School building with this ridiculous plan in mind. I'd rather spend this money on a police station. We have already re-pointed this building for over a Million and we pay for the heating bills. so let's keep it at that.

10:52 am edt 

Re: Drop-in Center Needed - Provide Artist a Home

 

"I for one would open my home to artists that need my assistance!"  

Funny thing about your post.  You didn't put your name or contact information.  I guess the homeless artists should go around door to door like prince charming with your post instead of a glass slipper looking for the author and a place to stay.

i for one would give 5000 dollars to any homeless artist to help them afford a place to live.  See how easy it is to make hollow promises when there is no name attached?

10:49 am edt 

Provincetown Streets

 

Before we spend money on the school building, affordable housing or a new police station we need to finish paving the streets in this town.

8:41 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public School System

 

Our School System

I get really annoyed when I hear/read people complaining about paying for our school. Somebody else paid for my public education, 1 through 12, and now it's my turn to pay for someone else's children. That's just how it works. My kids went through the Provincetown system and graduated from PHS years ago  but I'm not complaining about still paying. So stop your whining.. you went to school on someone else's dime too.

8:40 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public School System

 

Let's send the kids to where? Truro is at its capacity with its 125 kids mmmm. Wellfleet is at its capacity with its 125 kids.  Mmmm. Maybe Eastham will vote to build a new school so Ptown kids can come mmmmm.  That could cost up to $100,000,000 for a new school. Mmmmm. Then let's see we pay $18,000!per high school student to go to my nauset.  But $31,000 for tech.  Wonder what this mythical town will charge.  Let's say $20,000 state average.   Oh that's $2.5 million. Plus current high school money to Nauset $850,000. Gee that's our school's budget !

8:37 am edt 

Tuesday, September 29, 2015

Re: Provincetown Public School System

 

Of Course You support More and More Money Into the School

because the school system has become elitist. It is so expensive and yet not the best teaching. At a price of $40,000 per child--I too would get on the school committee,; I too would fight for more and more money; I too would want all of Provincetown to fund this elitist expensive school system. and with all this money, we are not funding high school students but 1st graders and second graders, and third graders.....

It's time to say stop. I agree with another poster. close the school and send our students to Truro. they have a great school system and send them there.\

We have an absurd school structure with too high paid principals and "superintendents" and administrative assistants.

Its more financial madness and an administrative group that looks for grants, looks for more excuses to keep getting more and money--all in the name of "our students." this is pure bull.

10:36 pm edt 

Re: Drop-in Center Needed

 

Provide Artist a Home

I for one would open my home to artists that need my assistance!  It is time our community starts giving back to the people that make contributions that can not just be measured in dollars and cents.  How do we best determine who to help and what we can do for them?  I'll do my part, what can you do?

10:32 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public School System

 

"Can Provincetown close it's school? It seems that it may be time to send all the kids somewhere else. We are a population of middle aged men and women, most of which have no children. Let's close the school."

Cool.  What has been your experience with finances regarding schools?  Have you talked with the kids about this?  The parents?  What town will take them and how much will it cost?  How long will it take to get there? 

10:30 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public School System

 

Do you really want to round up all families with kids and drive them to the border of town and maybe put up a fence so they cannot get back?

10:27 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public School System

 

Can Provincetown close it's school? It seems that it may be time to send all the kids somewhere else. We are a population of middle aged men and women, most of which have no children. Let's close the school.

12:42 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public School System

 

Provincetown has the highest cost per student in Massachusetts at $40,000 per student. This exclude certain costs. Send the kids to the Ivy League.

12:41 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown School System


In todays NY Times (P.A5) there is an announcement by the Inner City Scholarship Fund concerning facts on inner city Catholic schools.

  • 29,000 students
  • Percentage of seniors graduating 98%
  • Percentage going on to higher education 96%
  • Average cost per student $7000.

What's the cost per student in the Provincetown school system ?

10:32 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

To the person threatening business owners on boards.  Thanks you have just shown us why people don't want to be on boards in our fair little town.

10:29 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

Pay now for building repairs or pay later.  Oh we are paying now for not doing repairs in the past.  Thank you past BOS for all you leadership.

10:27 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public School System

 

The school had 125 kids in it.  This does not include HS students.  This is similar to Truro and Wellflert.  These are the school populations in our small towns. Go look at their budgets for the same  amount of kids. 

You live in a small rural town.  Get over it

10:26 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

Give Me a          Break

go against $7 million for heating systems and windows and you hold that this opposition is against our children and those families who are here.

Get a life. We are already spending much monies on your children and we don't have to spend $7 million on bricks and mortar. This is so ridiculous I can't believe it even came to the warrant.

I would think most would laugh Beth Singer out of any room.  I would only say; Here she comes again!

This is un-academic, unrealistic, and preposterous.

10:25 am edt 

Get a Room

The article from Jennifer Cabral is more of the Mark Hatch vs Jennifer Cabral war. 
Enough. We don't want to take sides in your personality disputes.  Provincetown personality politics at its worst
Call the question, Get a room
10:23 am edt 

Re: Drop-in Center Needed
 
Charity starts at home. You have come up with ideas but once again, no money behind it to fund the program or the center. By the way, may I ask, do you have a spare room one of these homeless artists and aspiring poets could at least sleep in at night? If you're living in a multi bedroom home and are occupying only one room and doing it by whatever means you are monetarily, why not open the other bedrooms to these artists that you claim are roaming the streets and need our attention, perhaps even free or charge. Take the first step on your own and see where it leads.
10:22 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

Education is Not a Building

and half of $7 million plus is still too much for a building. We have already spent millions on the building.

No this is not about students but an administration that does what it can to perpetuate itself. Write a grant. Demand money. Cry at town meeting for more money.

and how many students do we have? Few very few. I think we have more administrators, teachers, and diaper cleaners than students.

I am against this outlay of funds.

10:20 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

Sorry but $850,000 is not $4 million

Yes pay other towns to take care of our high school students but stop acting as if we have a high school---when we don't. Each brick needs attention, each wall more cement, each tree to be landscaped. Really!!

No. Not really at all!!

10:18 am edt 

Provincetown Police Station

 

I am not going to build Golden a new police station and many of us feel the same way. We can't spend that amount of money on the school when there is more pressing issues to resolve. Can you just imagine Golden sitting around  a brand spanking new station?

10:16 am edt 

Monday, September 28, 2015

Drop-in Center Needed

 

I Hope We do Set up A Drop-In Center of sorts

like the one that Patti Cozzi began. and I hope we name it for Ray Nolin. He deserves our care and memory and we can do for him what we failed to do when he was with us.

We cannot continue to say we value artists when we allow them to die homeless along the dunes. If we care, then we must really care. Let us do what we should for those who have little and are struggling while continuing to be artists amidst us.

5:57 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

No one pays attention to facts. The school budget includes $850,000 that we pay Nauset for our high school students.  Did you really think that by closing the high school that expense just goes away? 

5:54 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public School System

 

The school monies are too much

I have a child in the system and see the benefits he is gaining. but even I believe we are spending too much on a building and then landscaping and what else.

Let's focus on the classrooms. that should be our priority.

5:52 pm edt 

Re: Condo Conversion Freeze

 

I Am for the Ban on condo Conversion

It's time the town did something and this is at least a first attempt. I do believe, however, that these articles should have been part of the April town Meeting--not the October meeting.

We should only use the October town Meeting for unforeseen expenses-[-not rewriting our zoning laws and our legal regulatory rules.

5:50 pm edt 

Re: Condo Conversion Freeze

 

CONDOS Conversion BAN

People saw this ban coming from miles away and for years. All one had to do was read the rants on social media from people who told folks to take over homes etc etc.

We were scared into doing out condo conversions years ago after reading what people who rent were saying on Social media about people who own property.

If you get caught in this at Town meeting and are faced with a moratorium denying you to turn your property into condos--wave farewell to ever selling your place because the selectmen who who rent will keep that moratorium going forever.

5:48 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

It's our obligation to maintain the High School building because we're all optimistic tha Provincetown High School will again "rise from the Ashes to be back in operation as the best High School that it was & will be again!!!

5:46 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public School System

 

The constant spending on the school buildings is becoming extremely troublesome. The school committee should be aware that many people are paying attention to your crazy spending habits. You own businesees in this town, be careful.

5:45 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

To the person who said repairs at HS building will cost taxpayers $7 million. That is if we do not vote yes and get $3.5 million from a grant right now. But if we do nothing now, yes it will cost $7 million

5:43 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public School System

 

Are you people trying to drive out the remaining families in this town?

5:41 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public School System

 

So We have 85 Students enrolled

At our budget of almost $4 million, that means we are spending about $47,000 per student. We have classes with only 7 students, then others with 11 and then some others with another 7. Of course, if I was a parent of any of these students, I would want to support this enterprise with more and more money. But this is highly excessive. And then added to this, more and more money for the building that only holds 85 students. all the pre-k is to add more and more numbers. We lost our high school and yet we have almost the same administrative staff--some even at $77,000 a year as a secretary and a principal at $100,000 plus a year and then the "superintendent" at $75,000 as a part-time administrative. I'd take $75,000 for a half time position--wouldn't you?

There is something wrong with how this school is being so highly financed. Yet look inside and there are few students and no high school.

Smething's not right here, not right at all.

5:35 pm edt 

Saturday, September 26, 2015

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

$7, 3000,000 plus for the non high school high school building?

Are they out of their freaking  minds? You could build a police station for that but we said no to spending that much. have they gone crazy? I do believe the school committee has lost it. this is pure insane.]

I'd rather spend these 7 millions on the police station and let that be. This for heating and windows?

Sorry, but they are in another world and it is not realistic.

8:54 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public School System

 

"How Many Students Do we Really Have in our School System?" 

2014 Student totals:
Pre-k and K:  32
I - VIII:         85
Nauset:         40
CC Tech:         4

8:50 pm edt 

Re: School Enrolment
 
web site for 2014 Town Report:
http://www.provincetown-ma.gov/ArchiveCenter/ViewFile/Item/13710
It's on page 197 - easy to look up.
8:49 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

How Many Students Do we Really Have in our School System?

can someone give us the real number. No, not the babies we are babysitting and the ones whose diapers we are changing, they are not part of the school district. I'd like to know the number of actual students in elementary and middle school.

Can someone please provide the number.

11:22 am edt 

Re: Condo Conversion Freeze

 

VOTE YES TO BAN CONDO CONVERSIONS

Please vote yes to the articles that ban any and all condo conversions--BUT FOREVER-not just for two years.

I want my condos to become even more valuable--and this will only happen if people are banned from creating more--thank you and VOTE YES TO BAN CONDOS--NOW AND FOREVER--AMEN.

And thank you to the selectmen who rent for promoting this!!!!

11:21 am edt 

Re: Condo Conversion Freeze

 

Putting a ban on condo conversion is a way to take away property rights from owners of multi-family properties.  This initiative should be voted down.  If the town wants to get serious about increasing the stock of year-round apartment rental units then it should promote more developments like the one on Shank Painter Road.

11:19 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

"The whole idea was to get rid of the school for a town that's in financial trouble."


Get real, the town is actually in pretty good shape financially.  And unless u r one one of those who whine about everything our taxes are pretty reasonable.

11:17 am edt 

Re: Condo Conversion Freeze

 

As an owner of a multi family I am disgusted and done. Will condo before this B S passes and rent weekly.   
This is pandering to nonsense. Do something about affordable housing, build in what we have now, vfw and old community center

11:16 am edt 

Re: Banner Article by Marcene Marcoux on Ray Nolin

 

Thank you to Marcene for that beautifully written article about Ray Nolin.

In a town where new people come and go, like the tides of ocean tides, many are not aware of this fact about Ray.  From the mid 80s to the mid 90s, local artists were being asked, almost on a daily basis, to donate their work for auctions to support those who had contracted AIDS or were HIV.
Ray was one of them, and he was always willing to donate his work for such worthy causes.  Most of those generous artists had to move out, no longer able to afford the increasing cost of living in Provincetown.  Ray was one of the last few who remained from that time period.  RIP Ray Nolin.

11:15 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

So right-

we did agree that the high school and the school system was costing too much. I remember many a town meeting when people looked forward to saving the $4 million we spent when we had a viable high school. Now we are spending $3.6 million and without a high school. what are we spending it on? and then, year then another year, the request for more--millions to uplift the look; to re-point the building--remember when they had--for visually effect--the scaffolding and blockage of the entrance because it was" dangerous" and "unsafe." All a visually ordained effect to heighten the sense of the building being unsafe.

Now what? Oh, heating and how many millions? This needs to be denied. We can care about the few students without spending millions on new windows and a new heating system and more and more.

Focus on the classroom. focus on teachers. And leave the bulding as it presently is.

11:12 am edt 

Friday, September 25, 2015

Re: BOS on Condo Conversion

 

BOS if you were so concerned about losing homes to condo conversion then why did you approve the development of the GC building on Alden Road? WTF you hypocrites. Cut your meetings to 30 minutes, once a month, which may be the only way to pervent further idiotic recommendations.

4:39 pm edt 

Re: Condo Conversion Freeze

 

Let me get this right. The people who have been providing rental housing in their multi unit homes are now to be punished by not allowing them at some future date or allowing their kids to Condo?   The problem is multi family homed bring turned into single  family homes, loss of restaurants and jobs, loss of guest houses and jobs and taxes to the town lost NOT multi family homes that might be turned the same units but called condos.

4:37 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public High School

It seems every year, the Supt and Principal need money for something. I seriously think we need to say no this time. Everyone wants a good school, a safe one and what's best for our children. The Supt and Principal know that and use just that to their advantage. You rarely see other schools every year asking for a million dollars. The Supt and Principal are just like the Police Chief Jeff Jaran was to his employees. Another words ask a janitor or school teacher if what they are asking for is needed and let those two find out and I bet you the following year, they too are gone, just like Jaran would do. If not gone, they sure rode the train from here to hell and back again.
4:35 pm edt 

Condo Conversion


What frenzy ????
Open your eyes, the town has already seen the frenzy of
Condo. Conversions by greed, it has ruined stable neighborhoods
And now we have transients whom stay two years and then sell.
This should have been stopped years ago and now we all live in a
Gay ghetto.
4:33 pm edt 

Banner Article on Condo Conversion Freeze

 

Having just read the Banner article on Condo Conversion Freeze, I was left  thinking about what an owner might do who currently owns a multi unit property.

Perhaps they are being rented year round currently.  What might a Landlord do who has just been legistlated as to what he may or may not do with his property?

The most obvious reasction would be to not rent year round, invest money to make them very marketable and rent weekly or seasonally.

Remember that old law of supply and demand.  The multi unit buildings are going to become a very lucrative commodity in many ways.  Many can afford to buy a multi unit building, perhaps live in one unit perhaps just on the weekends and rent the other two out weekly.

Let's give this some serious thought and see if the outcome will actually preserve some year round housing or just give those who own multi unit buildings reason to consider other avenues to derive income.

4:32 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

Let's Be Realistic

It's a building and the high school does no longer exists. How many students are there? and I do mean students, not those in diaper who we are tending.

How many students in this building that seems to need, as per Beth Singer, more millions to fix. why? Perfection is not what we need in any building, especially without a real high school and now a middle school.

I say enough has been spent and is being spent on our children. But not two to three million for a new heating system and windows.

Who is kidding whom here? sorry but Beth singer is only about keeping her job when she should be out of a job. we do not need her position that is rooted in gaining grants to keep her as superintendent and to keep getting more and more monies from us.

Enough. simply, enough.

4:29 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown High School

 

Didn't We All Agree?

Years ago...the school was a financial drain on the town? It's an old building needing lots of repairs. If the heating system gets updated....what's next? The roof...air conditioning, a new gymnasium? When will it stop?

Here's an idea: How about the staff take a pay cut from their exorbitant salaries to finance these upgrades?

The whole idea was to get rid of the school for a town that's in financial trouble.

Let's get real.

4:26 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

 

THE AFFORDABLE BULDING GUY'S EXCUSE

All last year we heard about the GUY who was going to build the affordable housing complex--now he says that other towns are easier to work with...Really????!!!!!

I see it as just another blow hard bragging about what he is going to do with his money to help the community--and then decides to spend it on himself.

We have a new Town Manger--it seems to me that the GUY would find people falling all over themselves to help him.

Just another lame excuse--another pie in the sky dream backed up with smoke and mirrors and a dead beat attitude.

4:24 pm edt 

Condo Coversion Frenzie

A number of years ago The Powers that Be were going to have a condo conversion freeze. The unintended consequence was this fear caused the massive condo conversion that everyone is fretting about now.

I bet that there will be calls to table this article on condo conversions so that it gets post poned at the fall town meeting.

The scare has already been put into multi family home owners to start condo conversions and I bet that the scramble is already under way.

(Miss. Russo and her ranting and raving in the past spurred us to have our properties turned into condos..I even know someone who had their garage designated as a condo just to protect it down the road.)

If this article does happen to pass at town meeting--once it is up in two years there will be a rush to have a massive, whole sale condo conversion taking place in Provincetown by multi-family home owners that will leave the powers that be BREATHLESS.
9:22 am edt 

Wednesday, September 23, 2015

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

Thank You: I agree

We have spent much on the school and now it continues. Why? It was a million for architectural re-pointing of the building and now what? what exactly are they asking for--if not demanding from us?

Much too much for just too little. It's pee and pee wees and a middle school and yet the monies are as high as if we were funding a Charter School and a high school.

Great that some of you have your children in the school but that does not demand outrageous increases and "repairs" that I personally find objectionable.

the building is old and classic. so be it!

9:28 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown High School

 

MILLIONS FOR THE SCHOOL

Will this question be on the ballot for us to go and vote for these millions to be spent on the school..and how many students are we talking about???

9:25 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown High School

 

Are You Kidding Me?

Can anyone confirm if they are seriously thinking of bringing back the high school grades 9-12? I was in line at the post office and heard this. Was this whole school closing thing just a scam....only to bring it back? The school super was suppose to usher the close of the school in 2013 and bow out. Why are we still paying someone in this position the big bucks.

Now they want more $$$ at the taxpayer's expense for an old building that should be sold for condos. The views from that old building are awesome!! Think revenue for the town!!

9:23 pm edt 

Re: High School Landscaping

The lawn was seeded a couple of weeks ago but hasn't been watered so the new grass is half dead- way to go!
9:21 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Beacon

 

I'm Missing all the Information that Used to Be there at the Old Beacon

the new Beacon is rather quiet and I keep looking for dynamic news but ....again, like Yogi Berra often said:
"You can observe a lot by just watching." and then. "The future ain't what it used to be."

Ain't that just the truth Yogi!

9:20 pm edt 

Re: PAAM

 

Guess the PAAM Trustee who had a meltdown over a name tag is forgiven; he must have written a fat check to be the GAYLA host committee?????

9:19 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

 

Super nice event at the library with Michael Cunningham!  This really is the center of cultural life in Provincetown

9:18 pm edt 

Re: Wayne Martin

 

Enough is enough

Wayne Martin goes on and on and on and on. what is the point?

9:17 pm edt 

Re: Provicnetown High School

 

I agree with the post concerning school building costs. Enough. This is not a let's close the school comment, it is a time to stop this overspending on the school property building comment. I also agree that Beth Singer was supposed to be a temporary hire and that her time is up. She is an arrogant, overpaid women that is not neccessay.

9:15 pm edt 

Wayne Martin

Now I have heard it all ,Anthony was dead set about hiring Golden spoke about it openly and publicly had words with him at selectmen's meeting and even voted that way just so it wouldn't appear that he was showing favoritism to him being a fellow officer? I call BS a big heaping pile of it. He was out voted plain and simple, who said he was willingly on board that Golden was the best person for the job certainly not him. He has no choice but to accept the other fours recommendation that absolutely does not mean he has to like it!!! Again no contract signed because Golden knows he has the Selecmen over proverbial barrel and if the selectmen give in to his demands after stating that there would never be a contract for Chief anything like the last one people would want their blood, so we all sit in limbo. I will be going to the town hall and be asking what suits Golden has been named in as investigating officer is costing us thus far then posting the response if any.
9:14 pm edt 

Tuesday, September 22, 2015

Re: Provincetown High School

 

Now a special Election Just to Give the School More and More Money for "Improvements"!!

really, how much more will we give. We gave a million and more just for the roof. Then there is the "landscaping" with sculpture and now: how many millions for oil conversion or energy saving and $240,000 for 8 windows? what are they thinking? This is just too much and by the way--there is no high school and we were talking for years about saving $4 million as the high school closed. Keep in mind that Beth singer was brought here by Sharon Lynn and she was here to close the high school and then close herself out of a job.

Well, the  high school did indeed close. but Beth Singer is here at over $75,000 for a half time position. She seems to always find some w ay to ask for more money and then cement herself in this forever position.

I never minded supporting the High School but this is now ridiculous and quite foolish.

Provincetown has other priorities and new heating systems at a million or two million is not one of them.

3:27 pm edt 

Re: Historic District Commission

 

Tell that demolition stuff to all the town boards and the owner/developer of 29 Conant St.

3:24 pm edt 

From Wayne Martin
 
No I will absolutely not be silenced. To us all a favor and silence yourself I know the truth hurts but that's just too bad. The problem is with looking inside or outside the department for a new chief it's who's doing the hiring for example do they know all the facts, do they have an agenda of their own, is there any prior relationship whatsoever with the Applicant  and what is this man's history at the job that he is looking to perform or any jobs that were related to it. I believe Anthony's reasoning for not recommending Golden is that he knew him and worked with him as an officer for several years and thought that other applicants were far more suited for the Chiefs position, I also believe that he wanted to wait to see how the multiple lawsuits that golden was named in turned out, finally I believe that he thought the whole process for looking for the chief was flawed. Once again Golden should've been fired for the role that he played in the heinous acts that occurred i!
n this town and are still occurring. The other four Selectman backed the wrong horse because of their own agendas and now they have egg on the face there is no way even though there is know question it  should have been done prior to this that they're about to fire somebody else. We need town officials with back bone to do what is clearly right and necessary  not people who have lined their own pockets since being voted in!!! By the way is never to early to get my name out there and start campaigning.
3:23 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Police Chief
 
Ok so it's not under the headline "Wayne Martin", but I digress....

Perhaps the reason Anthony didn't recommend Golden is because he didn't want to expose the blue wall, one cop supporting another cop for the same position Anthony held years prior? Now he's on board and will be signing the contract?  Hmmm...
3:19 pm edt 

Provincetown Police Chief

 

Golden couldn't find a job outside of town if his life depended on it! who would hire him f it wasn't for the desperate state of our train wreck called Ptown. Are you kidding me....he won't sign a contract with the town?? I say tell him to sign or move onto a number of suitable candidates inside. Remember, Selectman Anthony did not support Golden and he's the most qualified to make the decision. The new Town Manager needs to make the proper decision on this disaster of our new police chief.

10:52 am edt 

Where Did the Guy Go?

Remember the GUY who talked about the affordable and the moderate housing that he was going to build here in Town. For months he talked about his plans and taking them before the town and how one project was going to be cantilevered over a parking lot or something--where is all of that planning now?

I guess that it is just gone, baby, gone. Too bad he doesn't step up and buy HOT L from the developers and use his own private money to turn it into affordable housing.

Man, Talk is SSSSssssoooooo... cheap in this town. Ya gotta laugh. Too bad he got people's hopes up and that it is all just ashes on the ground now. Is the guy even in town or did he take his money and sail off into the sunset?
10:50 am edt 

Re: Historic District Commission

 

Historic Distric commission Does Have a Say on 350 Bradford

No building can be demolished even if outside the historic district until the demolition is reviewed by HDC. They can then issue a demolition delay for six months.

10:47 am edt 

Monday, September 21, 2015

Condo Conversion Warrant

 

"PLEASE Please please--pass a law forbidding Condo Conversions

Please vote yes on the article to ban condo conversions! This will only make my property more valuable because the units have already been converted to condos..and when I go to sell I will have a great advantage over my neighbors who haven't converted their property into Condos."

BAN ALL CONDO Conversions?

Now do you see the problem with this article? It isn't fair to multi family home owners who rent out their apartments.

9:50 am edt 

Re: Recreation Department

It sounds to me like it's people and not just one person,


What ever happened to free speech?

It the shoe fits, wear it...  Or if you can't take the heat, get out of the fire....

The Recreation Director is paid a lot of money for what he doesn't do..
  
9:47 am edt 

Re: Wayne Martin

 

Please, could We have another Headline

Not another Wayne Martin. It is not election time. Silence please.

Wait till March to speak.

9:44 am edt 

Re: Recreation Department

To the disgruntled person you should put some of your energy and time into getting rid of all your hatred I feel sorry for your child or children.
9:43 am edt 

350 Bradford....
 
Yes, they need to go thru historic,but historic has no say since the
Address is outside the historic district.
As for the planning and building depts.,we have all seen there
Decisions in the past,so I wouldn't get my hopes up!
9:42 am edt 

PTV Link

 

The PTV Link Here is the Best

You can go directly to all town boards from this link. Otherwise, I find the boards hard to find. Didn't realize how good this link is.

thanks for that!

9:37 am edt 

Street Performer

 

Well There is One Street Performer

who needs a few new tunes! It seems like the same song played over and over again. a change of pace; a new sense of musical style; something would help the droning that is irritating.

9:35 am edt 

Re: From Wayne Martin

The reason, as I remember, for the liaison not supporting Golden for the position was that he felt the town should look outside the box for other candidates. It wasn't that Golden isn't qualified. Time and time again, it has been proven, looking outside for a chief doesn't work for Provincetown. I thought it was a bit shocking when the liaison made his claim when after all, he was hired from within too.
9:34 am edt 

From Wayne Martin
 
I would like to say that when creating these post I use the App that allows you to talk to text and it is not perfected yet,  so from time to time I realize they are not entirely grammatically correct and I apologize for it, but I trust the good people of this town are getting the gist of what I'm relaying to them.
9:33 am edt 

Re: Recreation Department

To the previous poster, some of us who work do not work in PTown.  I work in Hyannis and get home at 6. So I for one would line a class that starts at or after 6. Oh yea and I do work some weekends so Saturday.

How about the director sending out a survey to see what adults would like.  Maybe volleyball or pickle ball.

Just saying...
9:32 am edt 

Re: Recreation Department

 

The greatest luck Mr Motta has had is sharing the building with the COA.  Have the Rec Dept., operate all by itself, and you can just imagine what it will be like.

9:30 am edt 

Saturday, September 19, 2015

From Wayne Martin

Let see first if Golden signs the contract as written first then we can worry about firing him or not. One thing is for sure I will bring a lot of things to light most of these things having nothing to do with the police and when I say there will be transparency you can bet your life that's exactly what there will be!!! I will look out for the long time residents of this town and make sure that if they decide to leave our town it will be their decision to do so without being forced out by high taxes! Again I will probably be the most politically incorrect Selectman this town has even seen but I will there for the people and always be honest!!! I can't be bought or bullied and my line of work does not depend on anyone in this town exchanging favors with me. I will close by saying once again Golden is currently named in multiple laws suits which is costing the taxpayers a lot of moneys and let us not forget the criminal charges that may be levied against him as a result of !
these suits.
    Why on earth would anyone in their right minds back him for Chief. Even the selectmen's liaison to the PPD did not back him a man that knew him and worked with him for years would not endorse Golden. If the people knew what was really going on there would be significant changes all through this towns government and departments.
9:56 pm edt 

Re: Recreation Department

 

Glad they're Crazy about Yoga

but what else is happening at the recreation center? and what is happening directly linked to the director? some senior classes may be there but what has he set up and directed. Is this asking too much for new ideas, a dynamic program and enthusiastic town residents?

Is this really all that difficult? Really?

Or bring back Mr. Clark.

9:55 pm edt 

Re: Recreation Department

 

To the person who wondered why I didn't post the times of the other classes at the recreation department. That was merely by accident. To the other person who asked for classes at 6 pm. If either (or if it's one person posting) went in to check the schedule you would see that working individuals could attend the stretch and tone class at 5 PM and the ballet barre class is 530. I also forgot to mention their yoga class is also Saturday morning so those who do not work weekends could attend that class. And to one of those same people who said it was mainly seniors...so what if that was the case? I have no idea as I do not attend those classes. And as I said before if you have an idea or talent... Share it! I'm sure ideas are welcome in any town department.

9:53 pm edt 

Re: Class Action Suit

 

Looking for class action suit against street performers in Provincetown for the terrible damage done to my eardrums caused by the horrible noises they emit all summer.

9:51 pm edt 

Re: 350 Bradford Street

 

About 350 Bradford--they will need zoning, maybe Planning and also Historic

they can't just demolish the building even if outside the Historic district. they must still come in front of historic and if the building has history, if the site is a key important structure, then the entire community can get involved and the destruction has to be delayed for six months.

So keep that in mind when the bull dozers arrive. they are illegal if they do not handle the requirements of all our boards and commissions.

Oh, tell me: where is the Hot L when that is what we really need there!!

9:47 pm edt 

Posted on Provincetown Beacon

 

From Cyd on the HoJo's Concerned Citizen's page:

"Good morning all. I hope everyone had an amazing summer. Although it has been quiet, we have continued to remain vigilant around this project. On behalf of Betsy Read, Jim Turner, and myself, we are pleased to announce that Chris Wise is no longer pursuing a 40B application for 350 Bradford. Gloria McPherson confirmed this via email yesterday. He is planning on 13 market rate units, 7 structures, including 1 single family. There is an open meeting that has been scheduled for next Tuesday, Sept 22nd at 7pm in the Judge Welsh room to review the developer's new plans. This will be an interactive meeting and an opportunity to comment, offer suggestions and express concerns."

10:36 am edt 

Re: From Wayne Martin

I'm missing where any of this should be held against Golden or how it would help or sway voters to vote for Mr. Martin in an election next year. Would the selectmen vote for a person to be the chief with so much alleged baggage? And if they know of it and still put him in as chief, and if Mr. Martin is elected, would the other selectmen listen to the call, (no doubt) from Mr. martin looking for Golden's removal? I really doubt it.
10:33 am edt 

Re: Recreation Department

How about classes that are at 6pm for the working residents.

I heard those classes have mostly seniors.

Is it too much to ask that some classes be at night?
10:31 am edt 

Class Action Law Suit

 

Looking into a class action suit against Provincetown. For the damages to cars due to the terrible conditions of the roads. Especially Howland St to Johnson St.

10:30 am edt 

Re: Recreation Department

 

"Has anyone been in the Rec center on a Monday, Wednesday or Friday morning?"

How about Monday to Friday afternoons, and all day Tuesdays and Thursday's?  Why only mention the mornings of only 3 days of the week?

10:28 am edt 

Re: I Love the Idea of Panagore's of Getting Food Trucks Here for January 1st Celebration

 

"Bring in the wonderful food trucks. Open pop up restaurants. bring it all in!"

Certainly creative, but from whence the food trucks?  Boston?  Hyannis?   I hope that enough food folks are willing to take a chance on customers at that time of year.  Big gamble with weather. 

10:27 am edt 

Re: I Love the Idea of Panagore's of Getting Food Trucks Here for January 1st Celebration

 

"If you attract tourists, you need to feed and entertain them."

Don't forget to consider making public restrooms available.  I remember when the McMillan restrooms used to be open from Friday to Monday.  Over the last several years the number of days in which these are open has decreased.  We need to have an infrastructure in place so that visitors want to come AND return to Provincetown.

10:24 am edt 

Re: Recreation Department

 

We Need A dynamic director in the Recreation Department

Not who we now have. There is so little engagement with the community, so little of anything. time to change this person and get someone committed with ideas, programs and vision.

10:23 am edt 

Re: Recreation Department

 

" Stop Already to the person bashing the rec dept.  hes not going anywhere"

Who would pay him the salary and fringe benefits we're paying him, for what he doe (or rather, does not do)?

10:22 am edt 

Friday, September 18, 2015

Re: Recreation Department

 

To the person bashing the recreation department. Haven't we gone over this before or maybe I was mistaken and that was a Facebook post. Has anyone been in the Rec center on a Monday, Wednesday or Friday morning? There is a jam packed yoga class going on. I feel the ones that judge the most are the ones that do not know enough about what is happening there. There are stretch and tone classes as well as ballet barre classes. There is alanon and now I think even an AA meeting. If you are interested in a particular program why not suggest it. I'm pretty sure there is also a woman's open gym for basketball during the winter. And if any of you have talents why not offer holding a program there? Their schedule is posted on the bulletin board, do the research.

9:25 am edt 

Re: 532 Commercial Street

 

 "Asking questions about suspicions is definitely not in the category of informing anyone"

I agree the the previous poster. Stop trying to control the entire blog and what's posted here. If you don't like the contents, then join the rest of the windbags on Facebook. Those guys never shut up. And they have no idea what pompous jerks they are.

9:23 am edt 

From Wayne Martin

There was never an investigation into my fathers death for all any of us know is that somebody tried to rob him and it resulted in his death. Also it is the establiments responsibility not to over serve its patrons!!! Once again someone on here is making excuses for the police, unbelievably!!! Let me know how you feel when they let one of your loved ones in need of help float for over an hour within arms reach and do nothing and instruct others to do the same. This is a fact it's in their own reports, their BS excuse was it was to dangerous and it was raining. Do yourself a favor read the report it is a joke there is not hardly one true statement in it and this was verified by independent witnesses at their depositions.
9:21 am edt 

Thursday, September 17, 2015

I Love the Idea of Panagore's of Getting Food Trucks Here for January 1st Celebration

If restaurants are closed, bring in food trucks along the wharves or near Lopes Square and then support pop up restaurants in restaurant spaces that are closed for the season---but open now for the New Year's celebration. I like Panagore's style, energy and directive. He took control and goes forward.

Bring in the wonderful food trucks. Open pop up restaurants. bring it all in!

bravo for creativity and dynamism and energy.

this is thinking out of the box. If you attract tourists, you need to feed and entertain them. Good news!
12:54 pm edt 

Re: Building Commissioner

My Obervation: Get the Building Commissioner Out of HIs Office and On the Street

Get him out there inspecting and observing. Get to know the town. sorry but he does not know the town and does not know one historic building from the other. But he can learn----so get out there. Inspect and--enforce. that, sir, is your job. Start to do it.

12:52 pm edt 

Re: Recreational Department

 

Stop Already to the person bashing the rec dept.  hes not going anywhere

12:49 pm edt 

Re: Historic District Commission vs Historical Commission

 

The Historic District Commision is a regulatory board and the one that makes decisions regarding the EXTERIOR changes to a property.  Watch them on PTV.............

The Historical Commission is an advisory board, which promotes the history of Provincetown.  They can't tell you what to do.

Both are regulated my Massachusetts law, don't confuse the two missions.

Neither has any jurisdiction over the interiors of houses. Nor should anyone.................!  Do you want someone telling you what to do in your room!

12:48 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall

 

For those who think the town manager should restrict staff posting on FB are you OK with staff posting here where everything is anonymous?  No one knows if I'm a staff member here so it's OK?

That seems kind of stupid doesn't it?

12:46 pm edt 

From Wayne Martin

I must clarify for the record I was never notified that I would not be recognized to speak at a Provincetown Selectmen's meeting I was just informed after several requests on different subjects that I would not be put on the agenda, this decision was made by the chairman of the board of Selectmen. I will take this opportunity to state I do not think it is necessary to look out side of our current Police Department for a chief I think their are several Young officers that can do an adequate job if given the opportunity.
12:45 pm edt 

From Wayne Martin

Yes I realize that every thing that is not happening as I write this is in the past, that is just a simple fact that's beyond dispute. You can correct me if I am mistaken the courts are full of defendants that are being held accountable for things they did in the past. Again I made numerous complaints about another Leiutenant who became Chief In Truro after hundreds of us compiled a petition to look elsewhere for a chief. The mistake that was made on that particular document in my opinion was that we were too politically correct. Now that being said as an officer sworn to protect the public I found serious flaws in his ethics and actions but on a one to one basis out of uniform he was likeable enough. I will take opportunity to state to knowledge I do not have a misdemeanor to my name, although I as well as my significant others have been charged and publicity accused of a long list of serious crimes one of which being rape by the Truro Police. Each an every one of these charges-accusations has be levied without an investigating office asking me a single question and ultimately dismissed. That brings to mind a comment that an anonymous blogger stating that the accusations that I have made happened in the past but that did not stop my ancient history of charges of being brought up during my campaign for selectman. I guess it's a big old doubled standard when it comes down to me and most likely all the rest of the average individual.
12:42 pm edt 

Re: Wayne Martin

 

Sometimes people (and their families) have to accept responsibility.  The overconsumption of alcohol lead to mr. Martins drowning.  Don't try to bake that on others

12:40 pm edt 

From Wayne Martin

As far as me be able to speak at meeting in Truro it is on video! I have asked numerous to be placed on the agenda in our town and have been denied. It is very unsettling that someone would post that a certain person a been squeaky clean for years without really knowing what have been going on in the courts but I really do not want to argue about it with an anonymous individual. I always make sure what I say is based in fact so I will lesson the chance of being sued! Again town counsil for Truro is not now and has never been a cousin of mine my grandfather never adopted his mother so his is not now and never a relation of mine by any legal definition. As far as running for selectman I believe in speaking my mind it might not be politically correct but oh well. If you want a phony as selectman just looking to line their pockets then don't vote for me. 
12:37 pm edt 

Re: Recreational Department

I agree with a previous poster, it time to get a new rec director.  When we was in the Bradford Street location he was always study fir his fire dept test and let that place loom so dirty inside.  He doesn't do enough for the adults.

And for the other previous poster I do have a full time job with benefits!
12:35 pm edt 

Re: 532 Commercial Street

 

"Because this is a blog set up so concerned people CAN ASK, and bring it to others attention. The more townspeople made aware of what is going on, the better it is to address the issue with the proper authorities, or if need be, change the policy. "

This blog is supposed to inform us of what is happening in town government.  Asking questions about suspicions is definitely not in the category of informing anyone. We are all aware that a building at 552 is having work done on it.  If you or anyone else can give us any additional facts about it, please do so.  But, to ask questions about the legality and propriety of the project without any facts is simply stirring trouble and creating heat without light.

If the goal is to  "address the issue with the proper authorities, or if need be, change the policy." then do so by all means.  Bring up innuendo here does not achieve that goal. 

12:33 pm edt 

Wednesday, September 16, 2015

Re: 532 Commercial Street

Another one bites the dust... A brand new antique home!
Ptown when will you learn?
3:56 pm edt 

FinCom

 

The Chair of the Finance Committee lives and works in NY although no one will admit it, the Vice Chair has just resigned.

Now what?

3:55 pm edt 

Re: 532 Commercial Street

 

'This site should be renamed "conspiracy/busybody.com".
WHy ask here?  Why not ask of those that might know the truth?'


Because this is a blog set up so concerned people CAN ASK, and bring it to others attention. The more townspeople made aware of what is going on, the better it is to address the issue with the proper authorities, or if need be, change the policy.

Stop shaming every citizen with a concern. It's grown predictable and tiresome.

3:52 pm edt 

Re: From Wayne Martin

 

"I'm doubting that you can't speak at selectmen's meetings, whether here in Provincetown or in Truro. It's an open meeting and the open meeting law provides you the ability to do so."

Wrong.  It truly is an "open" meeting but that law does not say that anyone has the right to speak.  The board holding the meeting controls the subject matter and who can contribute.  Open meeting law refers to the issues discussed as being open for all to see.

3:49 pm edt 

Thinking Out of the Box

 

Brining More People from Boston to Provincetown and Using the Luxury bus is a fabulous idea

Boston has always been central to our market and yet we haven't done well with Boston. We hardly focus on this city and too often take it for granted. Michael Glasfeld has a great idea--when the ferry stops, bring them in by luxury coach!!

This is crucial to retail, to restaurants, to guests houses and to our town. change the transportation options--enlarge and increase tourists.

3:47 pm edt 

We Also Had Someone Who Could Organize a Fourth of July Parade

 
That is not so difficult but this        so-called director can't put three floats together along one street. do the work. People love the fourth and its parade so make it happen. what else is he doing? He is not competent to be director--maybe to be an assistant as he was under Truwheller. then Sharon made him Director after the legal case that followed involving the recreation department and the builing commissioner. Hire the best not those left behind after a firing.

3:43 pm edt 

Re: 532 Commercial Street

 

The person who posted remarks about 532 Commercial Street is spot on. Walk to the back and see the foundation that is much larger than the part of the house that was there and was torn off. My neighbor wanted to extend his footprint by one foot and was denied. What is going on here. To say we have an historical district is a joke.Who in town hall oversees this? We certainly can't depend on the Historical Commission-another joke.

9:12 am edt 

From Wayne Martin
 
Every Provincetown cop that was there the night my dad drowned and to place in what happened at the scene and the coverup afterwards ( falsifying reports ) should have been immediately fired also. Not one person that was employed by Provincetown even attempted to help my dad as he lay there in 15 inches of 70% water 10 feet from shore no drop off with the wind blowing 12 mph out of the south west with a slight drizzle in a well lit area and access to the beach by vehicle. Read their reports it reads like fiction they even went as far as threatening the witnesses and would be rescuers not to talk about what they saw. These all facts that were that were all brought out by witnesses at depositions.
9:10 am edt 

Re: From Wayne Martin
 

Come on Wayne, you're not starting the campaign for Provincetown selectman on a positive note.

Truro's former town counsel is not related whatsoever? His grandmother was married to your grandfather, no?

I'm doubting that you can't speak at selectmen's meetings, whether here in Provincetown or in Truro. It's an open meeting and the open meeting law provides you the ability to do so.

If either of the chiefs have done something in the past and weren't held accountable, well, that's in the past. The selectmen know of Golden's past and have accepted that. Truro's chief has been squeaky clean for years. Proof is what is needed if you're going to make accusations. You'll need proof later too if you're elected and decide to go after employees. Just because you say it doesn't make it so.
9:08 am edt 

Re: Town Hall

 

" If the person is posting to their personal accounts during work time, that is wrong!"

Posting on social media sites during the work hours is one issue.  The other issue is posting anytime, even outside of working hours, on matters related to Town Hall dealings or individuals.  I'd have a lot of explaining to do to my boss, if I were posting about my agency on Facebook.  Why Provincetown municipal employees should be excluded from following this is puzzling to me.  

9:06 am edt 

Re: Recreation Department

 

To the people who constantly whine about town staff such as Domenic, Brandon, Dan, Gloria, etc.  We get it.  You are jealous because they have a good job and you don't.  Learn to deal with, they aren't going anywhere.

9:05 am edt 

Tuesday, September 15, 2015

From Wayne Martin

Just to be clear the previous town counsil for Truro is not any relation to me me whatsoever!!! I say this because it was eluded to in a previous post and as is most often the case when people refuse to identify themselves on this blog  it is totally inaccurate as was their reasoning behind my post!!!
6:48 pm edt 

Re: Wayne Martin
 From Wayne Martin Re Golden not signing contract.

How did anybody get from what I said from my previous post that my only concerns were Takakjians influences over Golden as acting Chief? My concerns about him go back as far as when he first became an officer in our town and the questionable acts and the way he treats certain members of our community. For your information it was voted on unanimously back in 2008-2009 that I was not to be acknowledged as a speaker at selectmen's meeting nor was I going to be able to be put on the agenda!! This was after I made complaints against officers being drink on duty and committing crimes in general, I also was told recently that I'm no longer allowed in the Truro Pubplic Safety Facility, this was a directive given by Takakjian himself. This was done at an open meeting when I was not there to defend myself, it was also said a previous meeting by selectman Worthington that she would not allow any further complaints to be heard at the meeting after 13 other Truro residents made complaint!
s against the TPD. This is all documented on film so you don't have to take my word for it. As far as Golden goes he should have been fired for the rolls that he played in the cover ups as investigating officer into crimes that the town in now being sued for, as well as numerous other indiscretions but instead 4 out 5 selectmen bent over backwards to make him Chief. Now look what he is doing holding them up and making them look foolish!!!! In short it's not all about Takakjian he is in the process of being sued by 5 individuals and hopefully he will be behind bars where he belongs.
6:47 pm edt 

Stop & Shop

 

Disgusting....In Stop & Shop!!!

To the disgusting individual with a management company employee at 4:10pm today. You shouldn't be picking the salad bar with your fingers. I was going to get a salad and had to leave when I saw what you did. That's why prices are high and people get ill. Not only is it unsanitary....it downright grotesque. YUCK.

6:44 pm edt 

Re: Recreation Department

 

" For the haters of the Provincetown Recreation Dept, STOP ALREADY."

The question is: Are the town residents getting the full benefits of an administrator at his salary level, plus benefits, which total for him alone more than half a million dollars.  I remember when Dennis Clark was the Director.  He worked on Saturdays.  There were exercise classes, he coordinated with the elementary schools, and the Rec. Department put on a play annually with the kids.  Mr. Motta shows no imagination, energy, or interest.  Any one of his subordinates could do a better job than he's doing.  Whenever I see him in the building, it's as if he doesn't want to be there at all.  He should follow his bliss, and the town should have a better administrator managing this department.
If anyone has any doubt about what I'm saying, remember the pigsty he used to have for a Rec Department when it was on Bradford Street?  Sharon never supervised this guy.  He's been on the loose too long. 

6:42 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall

 

The individual who said they would post whatever they want is to social media is 100% wrong. The town does have a social media policy in place for all town employees.  If the person is posting to their personal accounts during work time, that is wrong!

6:40 pm edt 

Re: 532 Commercial Street

 

"Concerning the house at 532 Commercial we are wondering why approval was given for an addition that is much larger than the original footprint of a part of the house that they removed We assume the Historical Commission is responsible for this and are they even checking on the rest of the house to see if everything was gutted beyond approval. As we go down the street we see that it was quickly wrapped in Typar so who knows if anything of the original house is left."

This site should be renamed "conspiracy/busybody.com".

WHy ask here?  Why not ask of those that might know the truth?  Does the historical commission have the final say about internal rehabbing? Are you jealous?  Of course it was wrapped ASAP to keep out as much weather as possible.  Stop by the house and see what is going on.  Go to town hall.  Check the permits.  But most of all get a life.  Why do you assume that there is wrongdoing here?  People who think that all others are immoral, are usually immoral themselves.

6:39 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall

 

"There are no secrets in town government and anyone trying to restrict the flow of information is concerning to me."

Wrong!!!!  There are, by law, allowed secrets in town and other governments. Health matters.  Real estate negotiations are among them.  Trying to restrict the flow of LEGALLY unrestricted information is troublesome, but regulating the information  in a responsible manner to reduce or eliminate rumor, malice and ignorance is very acceptable.   

6:37 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall

 

"I was told by the Banner reporter that he no longer has access to staff to ask questions.  I would call that less transparency and not a good thing.  Does the access to staff apply to everyone, how far does the veil of secrecy go?"

And this may be a good thing.  I'm not sure that I would want every and any town employees giving their opinions on every and any subject to a reporter that may or may not be able to sort out fact from opinion. If the reporter is not able to get complete information about town government from an appointed source there is always the BOS and a published article that reasonably complains about restricted information can go a long way.  

It is quite reasonable to expect that the manager should set up protocols to assure us that we are getting the full and accurate information that we need to know that town is running the way we want. 

6:36 pm edt 

Re: Town Boards / Residency Requirement

 

"Is there a bylaw which states in order to be on any town board you must reside in provincetown? If so were do i find that bylaw"

Could be by-law or Charter.  Check both on town website. 

6:34 pm edt 

Re: Town Boards / Residency Requirement

The town's charter specifies that board members must be registered voters in Provincetown:

3-4-1 A person shall not be a member of a town board unless he or she is a registered voter of the town of Provincetown.

You can find the charter on the town web site here:
http://www.provincetown-ma.gov/documentcenter/view/202
6:33 pm edt 

532 Commercial Street

 

Concerning the house at 532 Commercial we are wondering why approval was given for an addition that is much larger than the original footprint of a part of the house that they removed We assume the Historical Commission is responsible for this and are they even checking on the rest of the house to see if everything was gutted beyond approval. As we go down the street we see that it was quickly wrapped in Typar so who knows if anything of the original house is left.

10:23 am edt 

Re: Recreation Department
 

I agree with the previous postings about the recreation director.  The playgrounds are disgusting and I wouldn't let my dog got in them let alone my children.  He needs to be supervised and not allowed to run free as he does. 

The director gets paid a lot of money for doing a lot of nothing.  Its the same ideas year after year.  One would think he could be a little more creative with all the spare time he has..

Time for a review.....  For the amount of children that go to the recreation program especially in the off season months it is a crying shame what goes on there....
10:21 am edt 

Re: Town Hall

 

"No town manager is going to tell staff not to post on FB.  As a staff member I have a right of free speech and I will post on FB whenever I choose to do so."

"I work for a public company and I am restricted from posting anything on social media regarding my company or my job."



I think the difference is that you don't work for a municipal government which has rules about open meetings, transparency of government, etc.  There are no secrets in town government and anyone trying to restrict the flow of information is concerning to me.

10:20 am edt 

Residency Requirement?

 

Is there a bylaw which states in order to be on any town board you must reside in provincetown? If so were do i find that bylaw

 

 

10:17 am edt 

Re: Town Hall-Social Media Policy

 

Don't know if our town has a written social media usage policy by town employees.  It may be that there's no such policy, and the only thing guiding such usage by town employees is good judgement.  Perhaps the time has come to have some kind of written policy.  This policy, of course, should only address social media participation that relates to town government matters; not what town employees think of the last movie they saw.

10:15 am edt 

Re: Town Hall

I was told by the Banner reporter that he no longer has access to staff to ask questions.  I would call that less transparency and not a good thing.  Does the access to staff apply to everyone, how far does the veil of secrecy go?

10:13 am edt 

Re: Town Hall

 

Hopefully the new Town Manager will go back through social media history and see who was working for the town and posting on fb during office hours. Maybe he can clean house and get rid of some very unnecessary jobs, i.e. the town planner and finance director.

10:11 am edt 

Re: Town Hall

 

"No town manager is going to tell staff not to post on FB.  As a staff member I have a right of free speech and I will post on FB whenever I choose to do so."

Great attitude for a loyal helpful, constructive employee.  I am not very sure of your legal position with regards to using your "right of free speech" when it is used to the detriment of your job and employer.  As Justice Brandies said free speech has limits such as yelling "fire" in a crowded theater.  If you truly want PT to get better then it might be wise to check with your supervisor before mouthing off.  If your goal is to undermine the legitimate work of the team then go ahead and test the water, but be aware that there might be sharks there.

10:10 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Recreation Department

 

For the haters of the Provincetown Recreation Dept, STOP ALREADY. As a mother sending her children to rec it has been a god send. Mr Motta and his staff are awesome with our children, and our children love them, so please STOP!!

10:08 am edt 

Monday, September 14, 2015

Re: Town Hall

 
"No town manager is going to tell staff not to post on FB.  As a staff member I have a right of free speech and I will post on FB whenever I choose to do so."

I work for a public company and I am restricted from posting anything on social media regarding my company or my job.  Employers do have a right to restrict your communications regarding your company and the role / function you play.  It is only reasonable that issues should be dealt with internally and not be blown out of proportion by an employee that may not even have / disclose all the facts.
1:59 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall
 "So town hall will now have a media blackout?  Sounds like instead of increasing transparency they are now going to be more secretive, not sure that's worth celebrating"

I'm sure that our new man is reading this swill and wondering what he got into.  "media blackout"?  How dramatic and wrong.  Are you deliberately distorting the truth or just plain don't know the difference and would rather exaggerate than be helpful to getting us a better town?
1:58 pm edt 

Sunday, September 13, 2015

Re: Town Hall

 

So town hall will now have a media blackout?  Sounds like instead of increasing transparency they are now going to be more secretive, not sure that's worth celebrating 

 

 

 

10:40 pm edt 

Provincetown Recreation Department

I hope the new town manager make some changes.  The dept head needs to go. 

I take my daughter to the west end playground and for a year one of the Sun covers is missing.

Also the rec depart is there for everyone not just the children.

can we get you to do a survey and ask the adults what activities we would like!
10:38 pm edt 

Re: Ray Nolin

 

I Hope someone Has a Show on Ray Nolin's Art

It would be so good. He was a wonderful and sensitive painter, an artist who loved Provincetown.

10:36 pm edt 

WOMR 92.1 FM: Ray Nolin

 

Thank you for your program on Ray Nolin

Very powerful.

10:35 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall

 

I Like what I am Hearing About David Panagore

Yes, stick to your job. do hat you are paid to do and do it well. Never mind involvement as a town employee in each and every group, board, commission. Narrow the focus to what it should be and then [do] that well, with commitment and time.

10:33 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Police Chief

Here we go again.

It's not really about Golden and questions regarding his signing or not signing his contract, it's about Truro's chief and a particular Provincetown resident that doesn't like the Truro chief.

Do us all a favor and go to THEIR selectmen's meetings and go to THEIR candidate's night and complain to THEIR town administrator and complain to THEIR town counsel (BTW, your cousin isn't their counsel anymore)and overall, leave us alone.
10:32 pm edt 

Re: Recreation Dept

 

The Rec Dept has been operating for years with hardly any supervision from the Town Manager's office.  I look at Truro.  They have such a lovely, competent person, who deals well with the public!

10:29 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall

 

"No is allowed to respond to questions from the press."

Where I worked, we had a person who dealt with the press, and worked with staff on the press releases.  All requests from the press for information went to this press person, and either she/he answered the inquiry, or asked pertinent staff to respond to the inquiry directly.

This is the norm in the private and public sectors.  Think of Cape Air and Michelle Haynes.

10:28 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall
No town manager is going to tell staff not to post on FB.  As a staff member I have a right of free speech and I will post on FB whenever I choose to do so.
10:26 pm edt 

Saturday, September 12, 2015

Re: Town Hall
 
People are being told to no longer attend staff meetings....  No is allowed to respond to questions from the press.

Excellent!   True leadership.   Not sure why all staff needs to attend every meeting.   Also, hopefully he will stop staff from posting on facebook.
10:52 am edt 

Friday, September 11, 2015

Re: Marc by Marc

Well, I agree with the poster, the store was a chain store pure and simple, pandering to the notion that if you buy there you are cool, hip or something..............very little of the real spirit of inclusion, and more pretense, more "fashion" fantasy BS.

But there is still Kiehl's!
10:57 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall

 Thank you new Town Manager for telling some staff to just do the job they are paid to do. Not everyone needs  to be at a meeting, that's what a dept head is paid to do. Also, hopefully he will also restrict use of fb to bitch about the town.

10:55 pm edt 

Re: WOMR - Ray Nolin Story on "What it is!"

Nice to Have a Tribute Sunday to Ray Nolin

I am pleased that someone is having a tribute to Ray Nolin because he deserves this. He was a good artist and surely a big part of this artistic community. I look forward to hearing what others will say and how they will analyze his art. OMR is doing quite interesting things these days!

4:55 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown, Truro, Wellfleet Beacon

"and it seems that Oastsie Rogers is now posting on the New beacon and may even be the real force behind the administrator."

Apparently this has some significance to someone.  Awful to have too much time on your hands.  

4:52 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Police Chief

Golden making 4 out 5 Selectmen regret their decision?

Golden still has not signed the contract for Chief of Police, this is s fact as of 9/9/15 Golden refuses to sign the proposed contract for the Provincetowns Chief of Police position and is not the sworn Chief for our town. Personally this does not surprise me at all taking in to consideration his track record, his less than desirable personality and who he get his advise from ( Kyle Takakjian). It is in my opinion Golden will be looking for a bulletproof contract that doesn't allow for his firing for past bad acts the ones that are in litigation currently and will want free reign to hire who ever he wants we no say from our elected officials
and more money. Some of these stipulations are in the Truro's Chiefs contract, that being said I think it's just about impossible for a Truro officer to be fired no matter how many complaints against or what he does ( John Lundborn, Kyle Takakjian ). We should all keep a watchful eye on what happens next it's my believe that most of our selectmen will give him what he wants very quietly to try to save face in appointing him against popular opinion in the first place.
It's time to look elsewhere for an honest man
without lawsuits hanging over him and the town partially if not mostly because of him, we as residents and tax payers should expect and demand no less from a Chief of Police and our elected and appointed officials in choosing one!!!
From Wayne Martin concerned citizen and taxpayer. I am also going to take this opportunity to announce that I will be running for selectmen in the next election, I would appreciate your support in my endeavor to serve this town as Selectman and as the people's  advocate in the townhall.

4:50 pm edt 

Re: Recreation Dept

I have been observing the director, assistant director and the counselors of the recreation department all summer...  Some of what I have seen has been shameful.  If it wasn't for Ms Lemme, the department would not be running.  Mr Motta is short fused, angry and needs training in the field.  I need not say anymore.  I think most people can figure it out....

Ms Lemme you truly are a gem..  Keep up the great job you do ..   
4:47 pm edt 

Just Asking:

Why is it this blog can print some names of people to insult but others conveniently get blacked out?  If you are going to delete names, then all names should be deleted....
4:45 pm edt 

Re: Pizza For DPW
Pizza Lady is donating 8 of the 16 pizzas. Peace.
4:44 pm edt 

Re: Marc by Marc Jacobs

Regardless of Robert Duffy's undisputed generosity toward the town, I am happy to see Marc by Marc Jacobs gone. To many, it symbolized the new, uber wealthy, designer Provincetown. It was gentrification, pure and simple. It never fit in with the aesthetics or overall feeling of our town. It was like seeing a Burger King or a Starbucks amidst the ice cream shops, art galleries and quaint stores Provincetown is known for. It was pretty much the antithesis of Cape Cod. I say that if you want Brooklyn, hipster style, you should go to Brooklyn.

Again, I understand that Duffy did a lot for this town, but honestly, that store didn't.

4:42 pm edt 

Town Hall

 

Early word from town hall is not very good.  New town manager has already alienated a number of staff.  People are being told to no longer attend staff meetings, they apparently are no longer important enough.  The operation is now one of intimidation.  No is allowed to respond to questions from the press.

4:40 pm edt 

Thursday, September 10, 2015

Re: Homeless Shelter
 
Who's commenting from Truro regarding Provincetown building a shelter? I don't have a facebook account and I haven't seen any postings in here to that issue. I would hope you have posted your thoughts in facebook as you have here.
4:21 pm edt 

Provincetown, Truro, Wellfleet Beacon

 

What Ever happened to the Provincetown, Truro, Wellfleet Beacon?

why is it being "replaced" b y the New Beacon? Has this anything to do with the Rentaboy site? and was Rentaboy linked in any way to the Beacon? I am asking because I am confused on what happened and what is being replaced. and it seems that Oastsie Rogers is now posting on the New beacon and may even be the real force behind the administrator.

Can someone clear this up?

4:20 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Police Chief

 

"Is it true that Golden hasn't signed a contract yet with the town? What's the hold up?someone must know?"

So, tell us why you come here for answers.  Ask a BOS member or Panagore or Golden or Gardner.

8:52 am edt 

Really??

If you want to see a stunning example of the arrogance with which long standing residents of the community are treated by the powerseeking "new" people check out the HDC videod meeting of September 2, banging a gavel.......are you kidding me?  What is that about!  What a crock, someone needs to wake up and get a life!

Apalling behavior unacceptable anywhere.
7:57 am edt 

Re: Pizza For DPW

 

Pizza lady is collecting money to buy Pizza's for DPW . She is selling them an full retail. She is contributing nothing.
That means 270 bucks for pizza parlor and a few free slices for Town employees

kinda twisted don't you think

7:55 am edt 

Marc by Marc Jacobs

Looks like they have closed according to plan.......no discounting the generosity Robert C. Duffy; he is head and shoulders the largest donor to Provincetown non-profits.  Thank you Robert!
7:54 am edt 

Schools

We don't need another puppet...  The town has plenty of those like               and so forth and so on.....
7:53 am edt 

Provincetown School System

As school begins its new season, I sure hope it is better this year than in the past.  I have heard a lot of teachers have quit due to the behavior of the Superintendent and the principal.  It's a shame that John Hanlon who has been an icon at the school for many years and has helped a lot of the children felt the need to resign as a result.  He is not the only one.

Who monitors the supervisors?  They both need to go....  It's been told that the principal spends most of her time at night sending emails that she cannot even focus during the day for the welfare of the children as a result of being tired.

I can think of better effective ways she can spend her time instead of wasting it....  Whatever she says and does the superintendent agrees with not even knowing the facts.

Let's hope for a better and self minded school year.
7:51 am edt 

Re: Letter in the Banner-

Rob Tosner and Michelle Haynes are correct, The Town would never be parTy to an advertisement  promoting drug use.

No no no

Golly Gee willikers Candyman, Nothing to see, it's only sugar and spice. So Molly it's time for T the true Ecstasy of every Crystal clear day....
7:50 am edt 

Re: Homeless Shelter

I am so tired of people who live in Truro telling us in Provincetown what we need. Here is a suggestion: get a group of people in Truro together and get a homeless shelter set up there. It's where you live, after all. If you care so much, you can get this done. So stop whining on Facebook and stop telling people what you'd do if you were "mayor" because YOU DON'T EVEN LIVE HERE. OR buy a place in town or rent one and then VOTE HERE. And while we're on this subject why don't you tell us how many pizzas you actually donate, free off your profits, to feed the "needy" in town? When people donate, are they buying the pizza full price (with your profit margin intact)? Or are you providing them at cost as a public service and for the sake of charity? Enquiring minds want to know, as they say.
7:48 am edt 

Ray Nolin

Sad to say good bye to a committed artist who lived his life without apology. 

Peace.
7:46 am edt 

Provincetown Police Chief

 

Is it true that Golden hasn't signed a contract yet with the town? What's the hold up?someone must know?

7:45 am edt 

Friday, September 4, 2015

Maggi Flanagan

 

I thought this post by Maggi was important to share with Mypacc Shout Out readers'. The article she refers to isn't there, I wanted to share HER message.

By Maggi Flanagan.

"For those of you who have been reading about the homeless "issue" in Hyannis read this article. But know that here on the Cape we have a Regional Network to End Homelessness, comprised of various non profits that work with the homeless, Veterans groups, County Government, faith based groups, state agencies, etc. We have representatives from Lower, Mid, Upper Cape. We collaborate. Cape Cod had a pilot program called Project Prevention which was brought to the State by Bob Murray. Project Prevention worked and all state funds were matched with local funds. But the state in their infinite wisdom stopped that program. There is NOT a "homeless industry" on Cape Cod. There is a collaboration of people working very hard to end homelessness in an area where the cost of housing and the ability to earn enough money to support that housing is more and more difficult and nearly impossible. There are homeless individuals and families scattered all over the Cape, not just in Hyannis. And even more folks on the verge of falling into homelessness. Who are these people? Your favorite waitress at the restaurant down the street, an E.M.T. who responds to emergencies in your town, the teacher's aide in your child's classroom, the person who knows exactly how you like your coffee at the local coffee shop, the cashier who checks you out at the grocery store, your neighbor down the street, the child who is your child's best friend, the Veteran who put his or her life on the line to serve us. And yes, sometimes they are the drunk, addicted and/or mentally ill person camped out in the woods or under a boat. Every single one of them are worthy. They are all someone's mother, father, sister, brother or child. You can't run homelessness out of town or those working hard to truly end it. If you genuinely want the homeless to go away, join the collaborators and help. Volunteer, donate, share your brilliant ideas, rent your property at the lowest amount you can afford, share your ideas, donate healthy food to a local pantry, duplicate Twisted Pizza (Provincetown) Pending Pizza Program. Volunteer at a Soup Kitchen or shelter and talk to someone experiencing homelessness. But know that until our work to end homelessness is complete, the work will continue.
An NYC nonprofit is a perfect catalyst, rallying communities to address homelessness | Community...
Twenty-four years ago, Rosanne Haggerty...

9:13 pm edt 

Re: FacebBook Comment

 

To the person who posted on fb "Provincetown needs a homeless shelter", forget about it. Give them some of your pizza then have them come live with you in Truro.

9:09 pm edt 

Re: These Precious Few Days

 

Sorry, I live in ptown all year long.i want a community!
Not dark houses from September till may

9:07 pm edt 

Provincetown Public Schools

 

Rumor has it that Provincetown is trying to bring back grades 9-12. Hopefully the overpaid school superintendent and principal can figure out how to make that happen.

9:06 pm edt 

I'm Just Glad That We Are all Here

However we came here, whoever we are, we are here and I'm glad we are all here. We value Provincetown and love this community and I'm thankful for all of us.
9:05 pm edt 

Re: These Precious Few Days

 

Look around. Hundreds of artists, friends, and workers have moved on. Once the sense of community slowly but surely disappeared, along with the kindness, most ditched the beauty of the place and spilt. Stop assuming everyone that's ever lived in Provincetown is an idiot and non planner.

And things do change. We'll see how smug you are in a few years. Think you can survive a major financial crash in the United States? First things people dump are second homes. It's happened before and....yeah.

9:04 pm edt 

Ray Nolan Adieu

 

So Sad that Ray Nolan Is No Longer With US

Sad that he has passed and with him, such artistic talent. May he find peace now even amid our loss.

  

9:02 pm edt 

Re: These Precious Few Days

 

Changing Provincetown is the same as changing many places. I moved into the South End in the early 70's ($20 a week for a room in a boarding house). Gays and straights were both moving in buying and a shell for $10,000 to $30,000 and boasting that they loved the neighborhood the South End represented but these people didn't stay on weekends they already had their weekend retreat to escape to and by doing so began to erode the neighborhood they said they loved. So its kind of the same everywhere. I doubt if I could afford to buy  in a boarding house today if it even existed.

9:00 pm edt 

Re: These Precious Few Days

 

Someone a lot smarter than I am, said "the only thing constant is change".  It was true when first said and is still true. Change can be good for some and not so good for others.  Should rubber tires have been banned because wooden wheel makers would lose out? Should electronic books be banned because paper book makers would lose out?  Of course not.  However, as we all know, there are now, always have been and always will be, those who will resist any change or, at least, pick and choose those changes they like according to their own needs and emotional compass.  You can reason with them forever, but to no avail.  So, lets all simply let them rage on until they are exhausted.  What they post here, or the logical responses, will not have any effect.

6:40 pm edt 

Thursday, September 3, 2015

Re: These Precious Few Days

 

It is amusing that so many people that complain about Provincetown's loss of community, are themselves not living here in the winter. I welcome the second homeowners with open arms as well as the thousands of weekly renters. I was able to by a large piece of property  and open a year round business because of these folks. Provincetown in the 70's and 80's closed down right after Labor Day. Nothing going on at all on Commercial Street. So please all of you folks that want to buy up the rest of these crappy old buildings, come on down.( BTW I do not have a real estate company).

9:37 am edt 

Re: These Precious Few Days
 
"This person's self absorbed ranting is so aggressively ignorant that it's almost laughable. That whole "I don't know about anything before I got here, so it doesn't matter" attitude is selfish, dismissive and amazingly rude. Perfect description of this person's beloved "new" Provincetown. "

I think what the poster was trying to do was call people out on their memory's accuracy. The 80's WAS a difficult time, and it's also the lowest population point in modern Provincetown. So those people looking back are remembering very selectively about what was going on, and what was not going on. The place back then was certainly not thriving. It was downtrodden and dying in fact. Is that what you maudlin people want back again? Decay, rampant population loss, disheveled houses, bad restaurants, and sick people coming to town to live out their lives in peace? Boy some of you really have selective memories. You also are living in fantasy land because that's never going to happen again in modern history. I'm sorry you can get a squat for cheap money. I'm sorry you can't live off your unemployment here anymore. But that's the way it's going to be well into the future. Times change. If you didn't and expect everything else to stay the same, here's your rude awakening. The choi!
ces were yours to make. If you didn't change and make the right ones, then that's your problem not the town's or the second homeowners nor even the first.
9:36 am edt 

Wednesday, September 2, 2015

Re: These Precious Few Days
Change is inevitable no matter what town what city or place. Whats is happening in Provincetown is simply change . its really not that hard to grasp. More affluent people are coming here and WANT and are buying larger homes and heres a news flash MANY of them are not second home owners its there primary address. I agree that its more difficult for people who don't have the means to stay here.  Affordable housing is part of the solution but only part because after u have the housing what do you have for these people to sustain themselves after the season is over and everything closes ???? and don't tell me unemployment or assistance . thats NOT the solution. the solution is for these so called leaders to bring something to the table and be innovative to keep Provincetown a little more then seasonal . I'm not saying its going to be a booming year round place however there is no way people with limited means can possibly have it both ways. THE TOWN IS CHANGING  you are not going to stop that or reverse that. So you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see this. Those that keep slamming second home owners and the more affluent are being totally ridiculous and don't see the big picture  NEWS FLASH  you NEEEED THESE PEOPLE to make YOUR living more affordable ,, ex  taxes , economic growth for the town ,  ex  shops,, restaurants .  How can you not see what these people bring to the town ??  The real problem is some people just can't afford to live here anymore and in life that happens and people need to make some choices. If life has become that unpleasant and you so bitter and angry perhaps relocation would be a better option giving the complainers a better life somewhere else. This is not meant to be mean spirited in anyway but i keep reading these posts and if i hated it here so much now i would move seems like the logical thing or just stop complain and figure away to co exist because heres another  NEWSFLASH ,,, things are not going back to the fishing village  things are moving forward faster then even i expected and the change is happening right before our eyes and not going to end anytime soon
9:25 pm edt 

Re: These Precious Few Days
"There are still fishermen and artists here. Just because all YOU care about is real estate and money, don't assume everyone else here shares your warped values. Believe it or not this town still has a soul. But since that has no monetary value, you wouldn't know or care about it."

So typical of an uninformed rant.  You don't like what was posted so you proceed to make up a haeful persona to go along with your self-delusions.  Nowhere in the original post did it mention anything that would suggest that the poster cared only about "real estate and money".

there are more than enough undesirable attributes in full timers and part timers to deserve your rage.  Please note that the ignorance is not confined to a single group but involves SOME of EVERY demographic. 
9:18 pm edt 

Re: Renters

 "Ptown has lost its community. I only have renters on my street ,A total of 9 houses,6 rent out weekly.
Please explain how this reinforces the community? "


Of course, it does not, but what laws would you like to see enacted to prevent/change this?  Take away all property rights, maybe?

9:16 pm edt 

Renters, Second Homeowers & Condos
 
If it weren't for them, our property taxes would be much much higher.
This way we get to enjoy the off season without the crowds and our taxes are almost nothing compared to the real world.
1:11 pm edt 

Renters

Ptown has lost its community. I only have renters on my street ,
A total of 9 houses,6 rent out weekly.
Please explain how this reinforces the community?
1:10 pm edt 

Re: Second Homeowners

 

Again and again the theme of hatred between the groups in town rears its ugly head on this blog.  This is in reference to the poster who's fondest wish is to see all of the second homes burn to the ground.  Why are you so bitter and hateful of second homeowners?  Are you the same poster who also expresses hatred toward business owners?  What other properties would you like to see burned down?

11:14 am edt 

Re: These Precious Few Days

 

"The (mainly) Portuguese fishing village you think you remember was long over by the time I first came to town in the early 80's. It's art days were also pretty far behind it. So I have no idea what you're talking about."


This person's self absorbed ranting is so aggressively ignorant that it's almost laughable. That whole "I don't know about anything before I got here, so it doesn't matter" attitude is selfish, dismissive and amazingly rude. Perfect description of this person's beloved "new" Provincetown.

There are still fishermen and artists here. Just because all YOU care about is real estate and money, don't assume everyone else here shares your warped values. Believe it or not this town still has a soul. But since that has no monetary value, you wouldn't know or care about it.

11:13 am edt 

Re: These Precious Few Days

"Where do you people come up with these things? Times change. You either change with them or die. There is no "old Provincetown" there is only "Provincetown" that isn't frozen in ice. It lives, changes, and has to keep up with the times."

If "change" includes putting up with elitist, selfish brats with NO decent manners but LOTS of bad behavior, I'll pass.  BTW, as far as some are concerned, Ptown is getting to b as much of a cultural wasteland as Florida always was.
11:10 am edt 

Re: A New Set of Renters Every Other Day

 " A significant owners of improved properties do so with the sole intention of renting their properties, and squeezing every dollar they can get from every single square inch."

Why is it that some people just love to post such foolishness without a shred of proof?  I'm sure that the poster of the above feels rather strongly about the subject, but that simply has no bearing on the veracity of the statement.  The poster has no idea of the number and percentages of people who are buying and fixing homes simply to rent them out.  Given the prices of real estate here and the costs of renovation, the ROI on what the poster thinks is a near-universal scheme to seek more wealth makes little sense. No doubt there are SOME who buy ,renovate and rent to help pay for the effort.  How many, I don't know and neither does the poster.    

11:09 am edt 

Re: A New Set of Renters Every Other Day

 

"They give us a revolving group of renters, no longer for the season, or for a week, but as airbnbers, every two or three days new faces coming in. Not even taxes does the town get for your rental business.  If this describes you, please do all of us a favor; stop calling yourself a Provincetown home owner.  You are merely a speculator, with a very limited interest in our community; your sole interests are those issues that affect your money-making machine of a commercial property you're posing as your "home". 
I will take a far less aesthetically pleasing home, any time, any day, over the so called pretty places churning a new set of renters every other day."


Excellent point. Kinda hard to feel like a community with the situation you described above.

11:07 am edt 

Re: Second Homeowners

"My fondest wish is that I can look out the rear view mirror as I leave this town and see all those "second homes" burning to the ground...give the land back to the coyotes, they have cleaner souls and better ethics."

Someone needs a checkup from the neck up.
11:05 am edt 

Tuesday, September 1, 2015

A New Set of Renters Every Other Day

 

I do notice and appreciate the efforts that many are making to better their homes, but here lies the key - the word home.  A significant owners of improved properties do so with the sole intention of renting their properties, and squeezing every dollar they can get from every single square inch.  They give us a revolving group of renters, no longer for the season, or for a week, but as airbnbers, every two or three days new faces coming in. Not even taxes does the town get for your rental business.  If this describes you, please do all of us a favor; stop calling yourself a Provincetown home owner.  You are merely a speculator, with a very limited interest in our community; your sole interests are those issues that affect your money-making machine of a commercial property you're posing as your "home".  I will take a far less aesthetically pleasing home, any time, any day, over the so called pretty places churning a new set of renters every other day. 

8:53 am edt 

Re: These Precious Few Days
 
"It's their town now, it isn't ours anymore. Whoever has the most money makes the rules.

Yeah, this place is a far cry from the Provincetown of days gone by, no doubt. I barely recognize it."

Where do you people come up with these things? Times change. You either change with them or die. There is no "old Provincetown" there is only "Provincetown" that isn't frozen in ice. It lives, changes, and has to keep up with the times. The (mainly) Portuguese fishing village you think you remember was long over by the time I first came to town in the early 80's. It's art days were also pretty far behind it. So I have no idea what you're talking about. The town, as I found it then, was dying, mostly ramshackle, and started filling up with mostly gay men who thought they were coming here to die. Great circumstances those 80's huh? Not so much. But boy, it was fun city while it lasted for the summer gay boys like me! The town has changed into a major tourist destination, looks way better, and is set up to do even better in the future. Yes, the town doesn't have a middle class, but that's far from unique to here. And perhaps as we go forward we can encourage that. But the town !
is never going backwards. Prices are never going down, the tip of the Cape will never get less desirable for summer tourists, and no matter how much you whine, it isn't going to change. Maybe it's time for you to move? Florida? Or too many old people running up the medical bills? Where to go for you? Or maybe you could just embrace it and help the town instead of crying for a past that never really was.
8:48 am edt 

Correction

 

Clarence - you might want to correct the spelling of "manger" in your red welcome to the new TM.

8:27 am edt 

Re: Second Homeowners

 

"High taxes! are you crazy! our taxes are nothing compared to the real world!!  Look at any other state in New England and you will be quiet!"

I agree that there are some here that whine about everything.  As far as taxes go, there are two considerations but the bottom line doesn't change.  and that is how many dollars do you pay.  The rate here may not be as high as other places but the assessed valuation is quite high. 

There are lots of places where people who own valuable property can be just about destitute because of ever increasing real estate taxes.  Frequently the taxes have increased at a much faster rate then there ability to pay them.  This is not unique to PT.

8:24 am edt 

Bottom Feeders

 

Damn, there sure are an awful lot of real estate agents spewing an awful lot of statistics on this blog lately.

Throw out all the numbers and statistics you want, you're still gonna be the least liked animal in Provincetown. Bottom feeders.

8:22 am edt 

Re: Second Homeowners

 

My fondest wish is that I can look out the rear view mirror as I leave this town and see all those "second homes" burning to the ground...give the land back to the coyotes, they have cleaner souls and better ethics.

8:19 am edt 

Re: Second Homeowners

 

No I don't like it. Why I got the hell out before every bit of joy was squeezed out of life. Visiting is fine. Done with all the rest. I made a choice. No regrets.

8:13 am edt 


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