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Sunday, August 30, 2015

Re: Second Homeowners


High taxes! are you crazy! our taxes are nothing compared to the real world!!  Look at any other state in New England and you will be quiet!

If you are an elderly person and you can get 500., 600., 700.hundred thousand dollars or more for your home, consider yourself the winner of the lottery and if you want to, cash out and go live great somewhere other than here.  If you want to stay, bless you for giving the town its history, they are both great choices. 

Choices that are available to them thanks to folks who want to spend their money and buy into this town. A town that has a very small group of "privileged locals" who want to give nothing, pay for nothing, but want it the way it was in 1965. Wake up, get involved or get out!!

And yes thats the way it is here now!

Written by a second homeowner who worked hard to get here and values all the great things about Provincetown!

11:06 pm edt 

Re: Second Homeowners

 

"How about the elderly lifelong resident who was forced to sell her home because she could no longer afford her escalating property taxes which were driven u astronomically by gentrification and wealthy second home-owners moving in"

Your post is high on emotion but low on facts and logic. 2nd home owners pay 70 percent of taxes and use much lower percent of services. One example: 2nd home owners have no kids in the local school system or at Nauset, the biggest part of the town budget.

At the same time your mythical elderly resident had voting rights in all the years of less-than-wise expenditures that drove up taxes. And would the sale price of her "lifelong" home been at a higher or lower price without 2nd homes increasing all values? Obvious answer, which also caused many longtime residents to voluntarily take the big $'s and run.

Lastly, the higher home values and low interest rates make fed-backed reverse mortgages more attractive to the elderly allowing them to stay in their homes - win/win unless you are a potential heir to the home's greatly increased value, in which case you could help the elderly person pay their bills. 

Demonizing 2nd home owners or other newcomers may make you feel better, but it's not based on facts.

11:01 pm edt 

Tomorrow, It's Official

Our new town manager becomes officially our town manager. I look forward to seeing him in the office and beginning his work here in Provincetown. He is impressive and I surely welcome David Panagore to our town.
10:59 pm edt 

Re: These Precious Few Days

 

 "PT is a tourist vacation seasonal town.  It is not a fishing village.  It is not an artist colony.  Deal with it"

It's attitudes like this that are turning Provincetown into a mean, selfish, exclusive, intolerant haven for privileged white millionaires who don't care about the people that were there before them, the ones who have lived here for generations. All they care about is flying in a few times a year, partying with their wealthy friends and eating at expensive restaurants. They build fences around yards that once had beautiful flower gardens for all to enjoy.

They're more than happy to have poor Bulgarians serve their food, poor Jamaicans wash their dishes (because only the cute white Eastern Europeans are allowed to be waiters) and poor Americans clean their houses and tend their gardens. But when those poor blue collar types start complaining about their unfortunate financial situations, well, that's just going too far! That's when they begin with the "If you can't afford to be here, then move!" talk.

It's their town now, it isn't ours anymore. Whoever has the most money makes the rules.

Yeah, this place is a far cry from the Provincetown of days gone by, no doubt. I barely recognize it.

10:41 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing Subsidy

 

Right about now the push for affordable housing will renew. Why? Because so many people move here to work  the busy summer months and want to stay all year. They find out that there is really no way to make enough money to pay rent in the winter with the few jobs that are available. So let's try and get the tax payer to foot the rent bill. Enough already. Work the system in Florida like the good old days. There are ways to collect your unemployment check on the beach in Ft. Lauderdale.

8:40 am edt 

Re: Second Homeowners

"God, I bless the day I moved out of P'town."

And please don't even think about coming back until you learn to live with what is rather then your fantasies. Things evolve.  Don't like it?  leave but stay gone.  leave your intolerance somewhere else.

12:06 am edt 

Re: These Precious Few Days

 

"Soon the seasonal visitors will not be coming, the summer rentals will end...........and we can get back to a "real" town to the extent that this is reality!"

How do we put an end to this fantasizing?  Reality is what is happening not what you want to happen.  PT is a tourist vacation seasonal town.  It is not a fishing village.  It is not an artist colony.  Deal with it and you might be a happier person.

12:01 am edt 

Saturday, August 29, 2015

Re: Second Homeowners

 

Re: "name me one native, other than the real natives, that was forced out of a home by a real estate agent or vacation/part time owner?  How is it even possible?"

How is it possible? How about the elderly lifelong resident who was forced to sell her home because she could no longer afford her escalating property taxes which were driven u astronomically by gentrification and wealthy second home-owners moving in and making the town "fabulous"? And please, don't pretend that you don't see how real estate agents are a part of this.

11:56 pm edt 

Re: Hatred Between the Different Groups

I don't See Hatred Between different Groups

I do see some town officials in the past who worked for their own benefit and for their own self-interest with their friends as beneficiaries. Some people view these individuals as a problem and label them as such.

Overall, this town has a close community.

11:42 pm edt 

Dan Hoort/Jack Tracken
 
These "two people" both love the chicago blackhawks on facebook and seemingly know what's happening in townhall.

Mr. blogmaster, is it two people or just one real person using a fake profile to direct hatred at other staff members?

This blogger knows...

Yours in good government!
11:40 pm edt 

Re: Mary Oliver

Mary is doing great in Florida.  Writing as usual.

11:37 pm edt 

Friday, August 28, 2015

Affordable Housing Subsidy

 

It's time to put a stop to this tax payer subsidizing affordable housing nonsense. If you want to live in Provincetown then pay for it yourselves like the rest of us do. Stop raising my property tax to subsidize someones rent.

9:46 pm edt 

Re: Second Homeowners

 

"Oh, enough already with all the pathetic, pandering posts (obviously) from real estate agents thanking and praising the second home owners for all the wonderful things they've done for the town. Of course you love the second home owners, you've all made a fortune off them! And the lower and middle class natives who were forced out by them."

Obviously, eh?  Oh well, like so much of what is posted here, you have deluded yourself into making up a new reality to fit your ill conceived dreams.

name me one native, other than the real natives, that was forced out of a home by a real estate agent or vacation/part time owner?  How is it even possible?

9:44 pm edt 

These Precious Few Days

 

Soon the seasonal visitors will not be coming, the summer rentals will end...........and we can get back to a "real" town to the extent that this is reality!

 

9:41 pm edt 

Mary Oliver

Does anyone know how Mary Oliver is doing?

9:37 pm edt 

Re: Townie Homes

The town's Housing Office offers a volunteer-driven "Little Fix" program to help locals make small repairs and do maintenance on their homes. Maybe you could volunteer or donate to help out people who can't maintain their homes to your standards?

Here's the link to the Housing Office web page:
http://www.provincetown-ma.gov/index.aspx?nid=119

At the bottom of the page you can download the volunteer application.
9:36 pm edt 

Hatred Between the Different Groups

 

There is so much hatred between the different groups in this town it is really a shame people can be so bitter and mean spirited.  I know there are a lot of compassionate and caring people here but you would never know it reading some of the posts here.

9:34 pm edt 

Re: Second Homeowners

 

"the deplorable conditions of properties in the town going back to the mid 80's."

And the trade off is gentrification. Meaning, lobster pots in gardens and other cultural expressions have given way to perfect lawns and carefully positioned flowers. The character of a town and it's traditions wiped out in flavor of appropriation, making it palatable for Cape Life Magazine readers. Like, I've got a house on the...ahem...Cape.

Yeah, we see. We see you driving around in your new off road vehicles, see you bringing in expensive groceries and partying up during Carnival. Oblivious, smug, townie wanna be.

God, I bless the day I moved out of P'town.

9:30 pm edt 

Thursday, August 27, 2015

Re: To: Second Home Owners

 

"... "townie" homes appear to be less cared for because it costs lots of money to care for a home and with taxes and other expenses as high as they are, it can be very tough for many with lower incomes."
Is it unreasonable for one to expect that they could at least maintain their lawns / landscape and paint their houses?  We are not talking big ticket items.  How about a little man power.  If you have an elderly neighbor, then why don't you offer to help her with her upkeep.  You always come up with excuses... not stating the obvious.                                                                            

10:36 pm edt 

Re: Carnival Parade

 

"Who sponsors and organizes the carnival parade? The parade
Use to be the highlight of the summer,no more.
I would hold these people responsible for the terrible job
They,ve been doing"


Worst poem ever...

10:31 pm edt 

Re: 2nd Home Owners

Townie homes are reality....
2nd homes are not.
10:30 pm edt 

Re: To: Second Home Owners

 

Oh, enough already with all the pathetic, pandering posts (obviously) from real estate agents thanking and praising the second home owners for all the wonderful things they've done for the town. Of course you love the second home owners, you've all made a fortune off them! And the lower and middle class natives who were forced out by them.

I nearly lost my lunch.

10:28 pm edt 

P'town Ads

Sugar and spice ,,, and everything nice
Wasn't that the ad campaign the VSB proposed?

Tom D. -- stop micro managing
The town reaped a small fortune

Promoting a year-round community
Requires harmony, not acrimony

This is when you smile ...
And say thank you!

Love from P'town,

Darla
10:27 pm edt 

Re: To: Second Home Owners

 

"Take a look around at some of the "townies" homes and compare. Now think of that "townie" home on a town wide scale. Ptown has come a long way."

I agree partially with what you say about the state of properties, however, many "townie" homes appear to be less cared for because it costs lots of money to care for a home and with taxes and other expenses as high as they are, it can be very tough for many with lower incomes.  Think a little more before you make such judgements.

10:24 pm edt 

Re: Second Homeowners


"To all of you that bought second homes in Provincetown or retired here, thank you. Please continue to enjoy this beautiful town and thank you for helping to make my business a success for many years. Also, please ignore the rantings of those that say you have ruined this town, most of them will be gone in a few years to a more welfare friendly place."


Ah, so speaks the seasonal business owner -- you not only gouge money from those second homeowners, but stick it to locals with higher prices and lousy 10% "townie discounts", then flee as soon as soon as you can in the off-season.

P.S.  We do not WANT "welfare friendly".  We NEED sustainable year-round jobs.  YOU hire J1s who can't speak proper English and have NO decent customer service skills so you can pay less and leave with a bigger bundle of cash. The only "welfare" I see are the 1%-ers and the wanna-bees taking our money and refusing to pay your share of taxes and fees.

And don't even get me started on the discrimination and rule-violating sense of entitlement running rampant in this town!

10:23 pm edt 

Re: So Pleased We Have a New Leader-Dave Panagore

 

Yes, I Agree: Good to Have David Panagore as Our town Manager

He officially starts Monday and moves into the office. I just want to welcome him and his ideas and thank him for applying and for going forward to take this town into a bolder and brighter future.

10:19 pm edt 

Re: To: Second Home Owners
 
I'll second that. I worked in a particular capacity that saw all of the dark sides, the deplorable conditions of properties in the town going back to the mid 80's. I've seen a town go from a seasonal party scene with run down apartments owned by slumlords, run down disgusting restaurants and ignored health and building codes go to a vibrant, clean, respectable and cared for town. No doubt the second home owners are the reason. They bought and fixed up the properties and then in turn others came and did the same. Take a look around at some of the "townies" homes and compare. Now think of that "townie" home on a town wide scale. Ptown has come a long way.
9:12 am edt 

Wednesday, August 26, 2015

To: Second Home Owners

 

To all of you that bought second homes in Provincetown or retired here, thank you. Please continue to enjoy this beautiful town and thank you for helping to make my business a success for many years. Also, please ignore the rantings of those that say you have ruined this town, most of them will be gone in a few years to a more welfare friendly place.

10:19 pm edt 

Re: Lawsuit to go to Federal Court

 

"Now maybe you can sit back, and wait to see what happens. We know the guy pushed on the town by certain Selectmen violated election law. Period. Read the arbitration decision. Then someone writes that the judge has reminded the town's attorney that there are Federal Laws in play. I'm glad you think having the guy that's in charge of keeping the law in the town, the HIGHEST officer in fact, demonstrably violating the law is "foolishness". "

By foolishness I mean the amount of time and energy that has been devoted to this quest for justice.  It is essentially over.  These wrong doers have occupied your brain.  Take charge and renew your life.  As the wise folks say, "move on".

No one will ever be charged with a federal crime in this matter.  Ever.  Someone may bring a lawsuit in federal court but it will be civil matter not criminal.

10:17 pm edt 

Re: Lawsuit to go to Federal Court

"Justice for Jimmy... And no, I am NOT him just in case you think so."

Yes I think so... there is a concerted effort to form public opinion.  Not working.  We also look forward to your day in court!
10:15 pm edt 

Re: Carnival Parade

 

Carnival Was good and Much fun

It was quite the week. the town was jumping. It was a fun-filled week.

10:13 pm edt 

Provincetown Police Chief

 

Golden is the one who deserves to be put under a microscope after years of bullying many of us in his sights. He is the one who handled political signs and he is now top gun. The law suit needs to expose him for what he is.                                                                                            

10:12 pm edt 

So Pleased We Have a New Leader-Dave Panagore
 
I almost can't believe it. I think it came close to having Dan Hoort be town Manager but some inside shenanigans gave way and then, alas, we have David Panagore. People will look back in time and see this choice as a brilliant move and they will see how close we came to shutting this town down. with Hoort at the helm, Provincetown would be filled with secretive moves, inside deals, and links to a bad past.

We now have a possible future that is good for all of us and a future with hope and new designs for our tomorrow. How close we came to torpedoing our legacy. some of the BOS would have voted for Hoort and some promised him their vote. then something happened----and Panagore was chosen.

Bravo to the unexpected and to finally making the right choice.
10:10 pm edt 

Re: Carnival Parade........
 
Who sponsors and organizes the carnival parade? The parade
Use to be the highlight of the summer,no more.
I would hold these people responsible for the terrible job
They,ve been doing.
10:09 pm edt 

A Request

 

I know it's August, but can we please dime it down and enjoy the weather?

Love from Provincetown,

Darla

10:08 pm edt 

Re: Candyland

 

I love and agree with the post at 9:12

10:06 pm edt 

Tuesday, August 25, 2015

Re: Carnival Parade

 

"That is right!  We are sick of you telling us what to do!  We stay here year round and keep this town running and you just come and reap the benefits.  This town would be nothing without us!  It may be most of your money that fills the tax coffers, but we get to decide how to spend it and you just don't like that... too bad, that is the way it is.  If you don't like it, then give up your exciting lives in exotic wonderful place and join us in the trenches.  It is not easy living here all year, so don't criticize us until you walk in our shoes."

 

I asked my neighbor about this and she said to thank you for so generously giving of your time just for her.  She also wonders what the townie who sold her his house did with the big bucks.  I asked her if she knows what trenches that you are laboring in.  She said that she hasn't noticed but will be on the lookout.

Personally I feel that you are totally full of BS.  She may be kinder than I am, but that is just a slight difference.  Will they erect a monument to your dedication to keeping the town running so that others can enjoy it?  Me, I never have felt that by retiring to town and living day to day was done for the sake of others.  I certainly volunteer for a number of things, but it never occurred to me that I did it to keep things running for tourists and pert timers.

10:56 pm edt 

Re: Carnival Parade

 

"Spoken like the 70% outsider-owning-town-property that you are.  Working year-rounders are sick of you and all your elitist claptrap."

How wrong you are.  We all know plenty of people who are not full timer residents that barely scrape by.  Stop with the jealous BS and be thankful that your neighbors who live here part time are not as vicious as you.  I for one welcome anyone who contributes in a productive manner.

9:12 am edt 

Re: Candyland

 "Now that Candyland is Over and so is Candy Herself

and her Cabal! Gone. finished. Goodbye.

time for change. and change has arrived.

Oh, no. Hoort. You are not change. You too soon must go.

Try Rehobeth Beach. Heard the beaches are welcoming. Ours

are not for you now. Your good days are behind you. Luckily

ours are ahead!"

 

What totally foolish drivel.  Exactly why do you waste so much emotional energy on this stuff?  Stop hating for a while, you may actually see some good in the world.

9:08 am edt 

Re: Lawsuit to go to Federal Court

"Now, maybe you can tell us who has actually been charged with a violation.  I never read anything that said that there were arrests and indictments.  To tell the truth, I would guess that the feds have slightly larger concerns than small town foolishness."

Now maybe you can sit back, and wait to see what happens. We know the guy pushed on the town by certain Selectmen violated election law. Period. Read the arbitration decision. Then someone writes that the judge has reminded the town's attorney that there are Federal Laws in play. I'm glad you think having the guy that's in charge of keeping the law in the town, the HIGHEST officer in fact, demonstrably violating the law is "foolishness". Evidently you'll find out if the case doesn't settle. Personally the more I read here, the more I hope it doesn't because we'd all LOVE to see these people take the stand and testify. THAT would be some entertainment and probably a lot of embarrassment. It might also clear out the last of the rot.
9:05 am edt 

Re: Carnival Parade


"Spoken like the 70% outsider-owning-town-property that you are.  Working year-rounders are sick of you and all your elitist claptrap."

That is right!  We are sick of you telling us what to do!  We stay here year round and keep this town running and you just come and reap the benefits.  This town would be nothing without us!  It may be most of your money that fills the tax coffers, but we get to decide how to spend it and you just don't like that... too bad, that is the way it is.  If you don't like it, then give up your exciting lives in exotic wonderful place and join us in the trenches.  It is not easy living here all year, so don't criticize us until you walk in our shoes.

8:59 am edt 

Monday, August 24, 2015

Candyland

 

Now that Candyland is Over and so is Candy Herself

and her Cabal! Gone. finished. Goodbye.

time for change. and change has arrived.

Oh, no. Hoort. You are not change. You too soon must go.

Try Rehobeth Beach. Heard the beaches are welcoming. Ours

are not for you now. Your good days are behind you. Luckily

ours are ahead!

8:30 pm edt 

Re: Lawsuit to go to Federal Court

 

I've still got faith that Jimmy P is going to have his day in court. So all those saying their money for the lawyers is going down the drain will be proven wrong. As a tax payer I'll be happy to pay him for all the suffering he and his partner went through at the hands of the Cabal! Justice for Jimmy... And no, I am NOT him just in case you think so.

8:27 pm edt 

Re: Hatch Act know it all
 
You seem to be talking about police misconduct in relation to the hatch act.  But the three items you cite all involve someone using thier position to support thier own candidacy.  Would you please tell me which police officer was running for a position and using his authority to support HIS OWN campaign thereby violating your representation of the Hatch Act?
8:26 pm edt 

Re: Carnival Parade


"The Town and residents want to grab every buck they can to spend on things and then have someone else pay the bill.  That is going on all the time and has nothing to do with carnival. "

Spoken like the 70% outsider-owning-town-property that you are.  Working year-rounders are sick of you and all your elitist claptrap.

 

8:25 pm edt 

David Panagore on "What it is"! at WOMR

 

Mr. David Panagore is an Interesting Man

I did hear the interview on the new radio program What It Is and found Mr. Panagoroe bright, interesting and quite passionate. He is certainly a change from past town managers. I look forward to his presence and leadership. I thank the BOS for deciding to choose him. Our futures are linked together and I feel hopeful now.

1:09 pm edt 

Re: Lawsuit to go to Federal Court

 

"The Hatch Act restricts state or local employees from engaging in political misconduct."

Thanks for the info.  Now, maybe you can tell us who has actually been charged with a violation.  I never read anything that said that there were arrests and indictments.  To tell the truth, I would guess that the feds have slightly larger concerns than small town foolishness.

1:06 pm edt 

Re: Lawsuit to go to Federal Court

 
"But, people keep asking "what laws"? but no none ver(sic) can answer the question.  If laws were broken there should be an indictment that states the charge.  Who knows about this?  Anyone have a real answer?"

That's because, at the very least, most people can Google. but here, let me help you with that. Ever hear of The Hatch Act? Let me quote you from a US Regulations explanation website. Please note ALL local police receive Federal Funds so, therefore, they are covered by the Act:

The Hatch Act restricts state or local employees from engaging in political misconduct. The Hatch Act
Modernization Act did not change the federal Hatch Acts prohibitions on coercive conduct or misuse of
official authority for partisan purposes. A state or local employee is still covered by these prohibitions if the employee works in connection with a program financed in whole or in part by federal loans or grants, even if the connection is relatively minor. A covered employee who runs for office would violate the Hatch Act
if the employee:
o uses federal or any other public funds to support his own candidacy;
o uses his state or local office to support his candidacy, including by using official email, stationery, office
supplies, or other equipment or resources; or
o asks subordinates to volunteer for his campaign or contribute to the campaign.

7:11 am edt 

Sunday, August 23, 2015

Re: Carnivaol Parade

 

Ptown floats....

Another business cry baby .... Wants nothing to add to ptown...
Just wants to take.

4:44 pm edt 

Re: Carnival Prade

 

"Being a long time ptowner,the parade has gone done hill
For the last 5 years. Ptown is now about sucking the dollars out
Of people's wallets ."

I agree with both statements but don't believe that they are at all related. The parade was rather watery.  The theme might have been the major cause.  However, I don't think that was deliberately so just to get more money from visitors.  While it was far from the best ever, most people seemed to have a very good time. 

The Town and residents want to grab every buck they can to spend on things and then have someone else pay the bill.  That is going on all the time and has nothing to do with carnival. 

 

4:42 pm edt 

Re: Lawsuit to go to Federal Court

 

No -the drama will be left to Tom Komenalis ,Golden,Jaran,lynn. Funny how you quote a  figure. Stupid Post Tom Komenalis-You are certainly not the sharpest tool in the shed. Can't wait to see you on the stand.

4:37 pm edt 

Re: Carnival Parade

 

Lack of town owned floats

I own a business and it's it not hundred of hours to design and decorate a float.  Besides some employees we have friends and employee friends on the float.

The parade is about our town and it sad that other business owners are not taking part and using excuses; not busy, not enough staff etc

Come on owners we can do better!

4:35 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public High School

 

Why Was the Tree cut Down?

what is this landscaping garden at the high school? another attempt to save administrators' positions as if they are really doing something great? The ugly playground stuff needs rethinking. But what are they now up0 to?

And to them, what is a tree? to some of us, something special that should be protected, not cut down.

4:33 pm edt 

Comment

 

WTF is a 'ptowner'

4:31 pm edt 

Re: Lawsuit to go to Federal Court

 

""And what federal law was broken by any of these people?  Why should the feds interfere with a local dispute?"

'Federal laws were broken- thats the point.'

 

But, people keep asking "what laws"? but no none ver can answer the question.  If laws were broken there should be an indictment that states the charge.  Who knows about this?  Anyone have a real answer?

4:29 pm edt 

Re: Lawsuit to go to Federal Court

 

" THE JUDGE in the case told plaintiff's attorneys that Federal Election laws were broken. You read that right. I love how all the know-it-alls who know nothing reply to posts here. So check out what it means to a certain would-be Chief, who changed into plain clothes, and put election signs in the station. I don't know about you, but that law he vowed to uphold? Yeah. He broke it. Big time. And a certain patrolman who just couldn't stop himself from texting? Ask what laws he broke. So stay tuned to this little ditty. Because those Selectmen who pushed him onto everyone should be praying for a settlement. If they put that person on the stand, it will be a hot time in town, and it won't be from a Carnival."

I,m so sorry for being so ignorant, but no matter how hard i try I can't figure out where ANY judge said anything about federal laws being violated.  So, since you seem to have the info, please share instead of crapping on us.  
I, for one, truly want to know more.  What law?

4:26 pm edt 

Re: Carnival Parade

I was very disappointed in this years parade.  I live here all year round and this is the only event in town that I look forward to.  Is this the best this town can do?   We deserve better.  I'm actually thinking about moving I was so disappointed.  Why should anyone even visit this town, let alone live here when we can't even put on a good parade.  Someone better do something.  It certainly is not fare!
4:24 pm edt 

Re: Disgraceful Lack of Floats From Town Owned Businesses


"Most town owned businesses are short staffed by the third week in August and barely have the manpower to get through each day.  A float requires a few hundred man hours to put together decorate and participate in this event and those man hours are just not available to these small businesses in late August."

Good lord, the only whining that's worse than the housing whiners is the whining from small business people! Given the prices for everything in this town, there should be plenty of time and people to think of something and put it together for the town's biggest event. Don't use the fact that you don't allocate resources properly as an excuse. I know, I know, you don't make enough money, the season is short, and parking is too expensive. Or maybe you just are terrible at actually running a business or have unrealistic expectations? Naw. Must be the town and lack of cheap J1 labor.

4:22 pm edt 

Re: Carnival Parade

 

"The Crown & Anchor is very proud to present a FLOAT every year for the past 15 years since Bill and I have owned the facility."

It was duly noted, Rick.  Please thank all of the C & A staff that put their efforts into it.

4:20 pm edt 

Re: Carnival Parade

 

"float requires a few hundred man hours to put together decorate and participate in this event and those man hours are just not available to these small businesses in late August."

The original intent of the Carnival Parade was to foster business when theRe was little.  Since this isn't true anymore, how about moving the Parade to another time period, in order to promote tourism when it's truly needed.  Local businesses could then participate more willingly and aptly.  The floats would be more reflective of the business and community at large we have.  The way things are going, the floats are going to be mainly from global corporations, eg. American Express

4:18 pm edt 

Re: Carnival Parade

I thought the parade was great and thank all participants for their efforts.  Ignore the individuals on this blog that have nothing better to do but complain.  If they have free time, next year, they might consider volunteering their time to come up with an entry to the 2016 parade.  You have a year to start thinking about your entry.  Rather than complaining, put your energy to work for a positive contribution to this wonderful event.  Every year Carnival week gets better and better.  Thank you to everyone who made this year a great success.
4:16 pm edt 

Re: Carnival Parade

 

In Past Years there Were Many Liquor Sponsored floats

what ever happened to that? there was always Biccardi and Absolut and large floats and many dancers aboard. Why not now? Can we get them back for next year?

I love Carnival and we can make it bigger and better. I miss when PBG was a more powerful force in the days of Steve Malemut. He was a driving force even if my spelling of his name is off.

4:13 pm edt 

Saturday, August 22, 2015

Carnival Parade
 
Being a long time ptowner,the parade has gone done hill
For the last 5 years. Ptown is now about sucking the dollars out
Of people's wallets .
1:41 pm edt 

Tree Cut Down on High School Lawn for Sculpture Garden

 

This morning, the old Catalpa tree on the corner of the high school lawn was cut down.  I'm sad to see it go! When I asked Chris Lucy who was cutting it why he said "New landscaping".  I had heard that there was to be a sculpture garden on the lawn.  Is this going to be one of those fast and furious deals like the playground where no one in the neighborhood had any input?  Are there any plans that the public can see?  Is there provision to maintain the the sculpture garden after its installed? I think neighbors have a right to know! James Husson-Cote

1:39 pm edt 

Re: Disgraceful Lack of Floats From Town Owned Businesses

 

For those of you complaining about lack of town owned businesses with a float in the parade.  Obviously you do not own a business in town and have no ideas the difficulties in staffing especially in late August.  Most town owned businesses are short staffed by the third week in August and barely have the manpower to get through each day.  A float requires a few hundred man hours to put together decorate and participate in this event and those man hours are just not available to these small businesses in late August. So stop criticizing and start analyzing and maybe you would understand.

1:36 pm edt 

Re: Lawsuit to go to Federal Court
 
"And what federal law was broken by any of these people?  Why should the feds interfere with a local dispute?"

My dear, dear apologist. THE JUDGE in the case told plaintiff's attorneys that Federal Election laws were broken. You read that right. I love how all the know-it-alls who know nothing reply to posts here. So check out what it means to a certain would-be Chief, who changed into plain clothes, and put election signs in the station. I don't know about you, but that law he vowed to uphold? Yeah. He broke it. Big time. And a certain patrolman who just couldn't stop himself from texting? Ask what laws he broke. So stay tuned to this little ditty. Because those Selectmen who pushed him onto everyone should be praying for a settlement. If they put that person on the stand, it will be a hot time in town, and it won't be from a Carnival.
1:35 pm edt 

Parking Concerns

 A block over from where I rent there is someone who used to have a business, taking up parking spots. Montello st.has this guys van and trailer permanently parked on the street. what can be done about this abuse and waste of public parking?
Is there a law regarding this?
Can he park like this, for a business that doesnt even exist?
Does he even live in town?
1:33 pm edt 

Re: CARNIVAL PARADE

The Crown & Anchor is very proud to present a FLOAT every year for the past 15 years since Bill and I have owned the facility. With the leadership of Rick Reynolds who has been by my side since April 1, 2001 he has taken the lead and has been "the best" designing and executing our floats and our Block Parties every year. John Burch my facilities manager a Provincetown native has worked tirelessly to build them every year and he should be applauded as well. We love our town and hope Carnival continues every year.

Rick Murray
GM
Crown & Anchor
1:32 pm edt 

Re: Lawsuit to go to Federal Court

 

"And what federal law was broken by any of these people?  Why should the feds interfere with a local dispute?"


If federal laws were not broken it would not be going to federal court. Fact is - it is going to federal court.

1:30 pm edt 

Re: Lawsuit to go to Federal Court

 

"And what federal law was broken by any of these people?  Why should the feds interfere with a local dispute?"

Federal laws were broken- thats the point.

1:28 pm edt 

Re: Lawsuit to go to Federal Court

 

"A federal trial does not bode well for Dan Hoort."

There ain't a chance in hell the Federal courts would even bother with such piddle. Don't you get it? It's only a big deal to one person: you.

1:27 pm edt 

Re: Lawsuit to go to Federal Court

 

Jim Palacino and Tom Tamarello are NY/NJ whiners! My source told me their case in Federal Court looked like nothing but a couple of cry babies seeking a quarter million dollars from the town! Keep spending your money on your attorney, ladies - and we hope the town doesn't take your drama! Leave it for the stage!

1:25 pm edt 

Friday, August 21, 2015

Re: Disgraceful Lack of Floats From Town Owned Businesses

That is correct... People spend big $$$ to come here and rent this week.  They also spend big $$$ in restaurants and other businesses.  Just because I am lazy and don't want to do anything to make the parade better, I still have the right to complain about who should.  I'm tired of all the free loaders in this town.  It is time they start doing something so I have nothing to complain about.  My life is miserable and the only joy I have is faulting others.  I think I am going to boycott all the business that did not have a big float in the parade. Can someone else please provide me a list of who did participate?  Someone else should start circulating a petition to let these money grubbing business owners know exactly what I (we) think of them. I'm mad as hell and I want you to do something about it!
6:41 pm edt 

Re: Lawsuit to go to Federal Court

 

"Heard through a reputable source the town and potential plaintiff could not agree on a settlement. I say this is a good outcome. Let it go to federal court. Pull Jaran, Austin knight , the current police chief and Tom Komenalis into federal court."

And what federal law was broken by any of these people?  Why should the feds interfere with a local dispute?

6:37 pm edt 

Carnival Parade

 

The parade yesterday was great fun.  My favorite was the band.  A parade without a band isn't worth its salt.  Well done, everyone.  It took a village to pull it off. The parade yesterday was great fun.  My favorite was the band.  A parade without a band isn't worth its salt.  Well done, everyone.  It took a village to pull it off.

6:35 pm edt 

Carnival Parade

 

Disgraceful lack of floats from Town owned businesses

People spend big $$$ to come here and rent this week.  They also spend big $$$ in restaurants and other businesses.

The lack of Town owned floats in this year's parade was disgraceful !  These businesses have no problem raking in the $$$$ all week long and they can't put a float together ?
I'm talking about bigger businesses like Restaurants - clubs - bigger retail stores etc.

This parade should be 3X better than it is and imagine if it were - how much more money could be made.

Come on bigger town businesses - get with it.  You can't just take take take - you have to give back and participate in the parade.

Spend a couple thousand dollars - it's a write off anyway !

11:50 am edt 

I'm Candy! I'm Candy! No, No, I'm Candy!

The Chamber float in the Carnival parade was quite funny. I do know the real Candy--It is Jim Bakker. He definitely won and now shall be known as Ms. Candy Bakker!
11:48 am edt 

Re: Parking Permits

 

Can You Register Your Car at Your Place of business?

If your car or truck is part of your business, I don't know that you can register the vehicles at your place of business if it is your personal vehicle and not part of business deliveries. Maybe someone can clear this up.

11:46 am edt 

Re: Lawsuit to go to Federal Court

A federal trial does not bode well for Dan Hoort, where he will face the possibility of  being implicated in the Jaran-Lynn-Nagle-Knight-Komenalis scandal.

It will be shown that the Police Chief was personally involved with the complicit cooperation of others.  

Additionally, Jaran had best hold on to the monies he was awarded in the arbitration  case. The judge in the Brady "Deflate-Gate" case has ruled that Federal law allows for the setting aside of findings made in arbitration.

Just saying,

No the fat lady has not sung yet!

8:41 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

David Gardner is one smart fellow. He's getting a "lead" librarian hired to help Matt Clark and getting him or her in place before the new town manager gets to town. After all, the new town manager might be crazy enough to wonder why you would hire someone to do a job and then hire someone else to do the job for them. This way, if the person is hired and in place before the new town manager settles in, maybe he won't notice this situation. Clever.

8:35 am edt 

Lawsuit to go to Federal Court

 Heard through a reputable source the town and potential plaintiff could not agree on a settlement. I say this is a good outcome. Let it go to federal court. Pull Jaran, Austin knight , the current police chief and Tom Komenalis into federal court. That is where this belonged in the first place. Let them all face the fate they deserve. Let justice be served. I believe a jury will see what took place . I also believe much more will be uncovered concerning Jaran, Knight,Golden and Komenalis .  Not to mention Sharon Lynn.

12:36 am edt 

Re: West Vine and Bradford Ext

No, the 10 or more spaces were not given by the developer to the town, they were town property already. Look at the cadaastral maps. And the deal to limit parking to 3 hrs.after 4pm to help the restaurant was very biased. You are the one very off on this.

12:32 am edt 

Scandal?

 

I hear that another Ptown officer is about to be involved in another scandal...stay tuned!

12:30 am edt 

Re: Dear Postmaster of Provincetown

Bravo Postmaster!!

Keep it up!! These entitled idiots need to be stepped on. thank you for doing that.  There is plenty of parking, people are just lazy.

12:27 am edt 

Thursday, August 20, 2015

Re: West Vine and Bradford Ext

"Anyone notice the development on the corner of West Vine and Bradford ext has erected no trespassing barricades on the town owned land to prevent people from parking as they have done for years. I hope the developers don't claim the right to tow vehicles from  our town property."

Wow, are you way off on this one.  Did you notice the 10 (or so) new metered parking spaces on Bradford?  I beleive the developer gave those spots to the town as part of the deal to develope the property.  The illegal parking that has been occuring for years on West Vine has always been illegal (especially when the cars would stick out onto the street and cause a hazard for people driving down west vine). 

I am glad the baracades are up.  Unfortunatley, they are probably up for the week because of all of the people who will coming in for carnival.   If you are a resident and have a permit, park in the metered spaces.  The only reason that someone would complain about this is that either their free ride (I mean parking) has been taken away, OR they just like to complain.



11:52 am edt 

Re: Parking Permits


"Because they register their cars at their business locations. The town benefits from vehicle excise tax and sticker fee. What's it to you? Are you another busy body snitch in a town full of them."

This is the worst kind of bs.  The law says one thing but you say another and thenwhen there is a reasonable question you get all teen agery and call them a snitch.  The parking by law says the rules / if they beak the rules thye are wrong.  period.


11:46 am edt 

Dear Postmaster of Provincetown
 
Please stop publicly shaming people that park incorrectly in the post office lot. The previous Postmaster was more concerned with customer service. Stay off face book it makes you seem mean spirited.
Thank you, A town resident that finds it extremely difficult to find a parking space in the post office lot most of the year because there are only 6 spaces to park in.
11:44 am edt 

Re: West Vine and Bradford Ext
 
I posted about the parking on West Vine. I did more research and found the developer now owns a 50 ft. right off the street into their back lot, I guess they can stop parking on the street...SORRY!
11:17 am edt 

Re: Candyland Carnival

"...,Selectmen who meddled in the Jaran melee costing the town thousands..."

The reality is that the way Jaran was a ting, and with Lynne's full blessings, the tax payers would have to pay for a string of lawsuits against the town, one after the other, or in a settlement for getting rid of him.  Of the two evils, I choose the latter.  He's gone👍
11:11 am edt 

Re: Seashore Point

I'd Like to Hear More about Seashore Point

and who has been fired and what is happening. Keep in mind that they are a for profit organization and have nothing to do with the Deaconess Hospital--now  the BI Deaconess--and they have little attachment to the town. They are into condos and housing and into making profitable deals.

But please tell me more. Few of us go inside that building. Few of know what is happening on the inside.
11:08 am edt 

Re: West Vine and Bradford Ext

More of the parking police.

The town doesn't own anything in the area so the property belongs to the property owners. Just because you and your friends have been parking on that property to eat at the local restaurant in that area doesn't mean it's yours or even the restaurants. Face it, it's private.
11:05 am edt 

Wednesday, August 19, 2015

Re: Parking Permits

Why do so many Truro residents have parking permits?

Because they register their cars at their business locations. The town benefits from vehicle excise tax and sticker fee. What's it to you? Are you another busy body snitch in a town full of them.
11:39 am edt 

West Vine and Bradford Ext

Anyone notice the development on the corner of West Vine and Bradford ext has erected no trespassing barricades on the town owned land to prevent people from parking as they have done for years. I hope the developers don't claim the right to tow vehicles from  our town property.
11:37 am edt 

Tuesday, August 18, 2015

Re: Provincetown Public Library

Yes, the previous library director did more harm than good.  Matt Clark is doing a great job.  The new crop of Trustee's are a godsend also.
10:33 pm edt 

Re: Candyland Carnival

"In three short years, the town has risen up against the corrupt. Cut out (most of) the cronyism from Town Hall."


Right. And in place of the 'corrupt' we have a Finance Committee clearly overstepping limited authority, Selectmen who meddled in the Jaran melee costing the town thousands, and another rearranging parking spots to benefit a personal business.

Another sophomoric post.  
10:29 pm edt 

Re: Candyland

How Ironic or Prescient

that the theme for this year's Carnival is Candyland. We have had Candyland for the past too many years--and the topsy turvy shenanigans that resulted.

I hope there is a float with Candyland herself, dogs barking, and the end of this  odd and tragic "reign."
10:26 pm edt 

Re: Parking Permits
 
"Why do so many Truro residents have parking permits?"

They lie.
10:24 pm edt 

Seashore Point

Why is it that everyone is keeping so hush about Seashore Point?  With the takeover they removed an absolutely incredible director and nurse who loved and cared for all of the residents. No time clock for Mr. Maloney. He was there whenever needed.  He knew each resident, their family and made many peoples last chapter one of the most comfortable time of their lives. He was ousted because he didn't fit the imagine Deaconess was promoting.  Next Deaconess got rid of the managers who cherished and took care of our residents.   The only ones remaining were untouchable because they belonged to the union. From there it became a machine.  Why are we so silent?  Services down, rates up and the few low income housing apartment dwellers are treated like second class citizens. They'll take our money but please don't let them take our souls.
10:20 pm edt 

Re: Lopes Square

"Last time that I head from you, you didn't want locals parking in "your" parking lot---because you called them " lost revenue" Give the townies a break!!!!! "

To you, what is a "townie".  A resident.   a native, born here?  Someone who likes it here?

Who makes the laws?  Are they for all drivers or just some?  What kind of break should "townies" get? 

10:36 am edt 

Monday, August 17, 2015

Re: Provincetown Public Library

 

"...better if the signs read that the doors close 15 minutes prior to closing."

Yes!  This is a great suggestion for the Library.

11:18 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

 

Probably by now, Mr. Clark is getting the pre-requisite library coursework necessary already.  In an ideal world, I'd want him with all the necessary requirements.  But look at the previous director...she had the library credentials, and she was a disaster!

11:16 pm edt 

Re: You Need to Be Studied

 

If you think I need to be studied you are welcome to come into my office and study me.  Pull up a chair and have a seat.  Its a little creepy, but if thats what you want.  I wont be offended if you want to wear a mask so you can continue to hide your identity.  If you can find one of those things to disguise your voice you can also tell me all the imaginary things you think Ive done to damage the town.

I put myself out there as a candidate for Town Manager because I have a front row seat to the dysfunctional leadership in the town.  I thought I could help and offered myself for the position.  I spent six months preparing a strategic plan of what I would work on as Town Manager and included it with my cover letter.  Unfortunately, the chair of Screening Committee, Selectman Andrews, decided not to forward my four page plan to the rest of the Selectmen so they never got to see it.  Do I think it would have made a difference?  Well never know, probably not because they seem determined to go outside for a town manager.  As one of my co-workers said to me, he (Mr. Panagore) had just enough qualifications so they didnt have to pick you.

But, now its time to move on.  Ive turned my focus to my guesthouse I run with my partner and we are going to continue to grow our business.  Its really quite refreshing to get away from the problems of the town and not have to be involved in them. 

For those of you who want to continue to focus on Sharon, Jeff, and Candace and anyone connected to them you really need to get a grip.  Your hatred for them and anyone connected to them is a little over the top.

Dan Hoort

11:13 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library et al

 

The lead librarian position advertised is not a new position, merely replacing an existing staff member who is moving on. 

Enough with your complaints about town staff, your conspiracy theories and your ugliness!  There seems to be a practice on this blog where one by one, the town employees and committee members are targeted until they finally just move on.  Then the replacement gets a short respite (if they're lucky) before they go under the gun.

I recall Tom Donegan, Erik Yingling and Raphael Richter being heralded as the 2nd coming, right up until their election.  Now they can do nothing right.  Town employees are hounded to the point where they realize that, no matter how beautiful this town is, the people in it have ugly souls, and it's better to go just about ANYWHERE than to stay here.

David Gardner could do no wrong when he was Assistant Town Manager.  People continually called for his hiring as Town Manager.  Right until he became TM, at which point the mud-slinging, complaints and ill will reached crescendo.

Don't you all ever get tired of this?

11:11 pm edt 

Re: Lopes Square

 

"The police should be doing something about all the cars parked around the coffee pot. Its everyone one sitting in lopes square gossiping for hours. It drives me crazy its the same people every day not fair at all" 

 

I'm not so bothered by the quick parking at slow times but when i walked by the other day I noted that all the cars had resident parking decals even though I  know for a fact that many, if not all, live in Truro.  Where did they get the permits?  HMMMMMM!!!!

11:09 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

 

 "that the library hours for the public are from:

10am - 4:45pm on Mondays and Fridays
10am - 7:45pm on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays
1 - 4:45pm on Saturdays and Sundays"


It might suit you better if the signs read that the doors close 15 minutes prior to closing.  I am curious to know what you think should be done if someone shows up at 5:00 and is admitted only to find that they must leave because staff is going off duty.  The open hours are truly to 5:00.  Patrons in the building are not asked to leave until 5:00.

Maybe you could suggest practical reforms instead of gripes that have not been well considered.  Also, despite what so many do here, why not go to the library and speak with them about your concerns. 

11:07 pm edt 

Candyland Carnival

 

The Candyland Carnival Marks the End of an Era. It's truly a day to celebrate.

In three short years, the town has risen up against the corrupt. Cut out (most of) the cronyism from Town Hall. No longer does Town Hall keep an enemies list. The police no longer target and harass political foes.

The Candlyand nod to the past and it's own glory days as one of the owners of the Town Manager and Police Chief are OVER.  Enjoy the memories fellas.

All that is left is a bacchanalian parade to an aging tourist niche.

Rock on.

11:04 pm edt 

Re: Lopes Square

Last time that I head from you, you didn't want locals parking in "your" parking lot---because you called them " lost revenue" Give the townies a break!!!!!
11:02 pm edt 

Re: Lopes Square

 

"Its everyone one sitting in lopes square gossiping for hours. It drives me crazy its the same people every day not fair at all."


It seems that grammar and punctuation are not your friends. 
Instead of watching people sit "in lopes square gossiping for hours", how about doing some grammar and punctuation exercises during that time?

11:00 pm edt 

Re: Lopes Square

 

"The police should be doing something about all the cars parked around the coffee pot. Its everyone one sitting in lopes square gossiping for hours. It drives me crazy its the same people every day not fair at all."

Here we go again, parking admin. vs locals. Pleases stop bashing locals

10:58 pm edt 

Re: Somerset Heights Neighborhood Construction

 

The property card in the Town Hall files has Jerome's garage, 12 Somerset Rd, as 0 bedrooms. Wrong! It is a house with a bedroom. I walk the old Railroad bed everyday and it's true, construction has been going on for years. I have friends who live up the hill on Thistlemore Rd and they are retired but rarely sit on their deck because of the noise. No one at Town Hall has done a thing.

10:55 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

Well we will have to give David Gardner credit for doing what he said he would do. When he appointed Matt Clark as Library Director he said if Mr. Clark was not able to do the job he, David, would hire someone qualified to actually do the job (see Employment section in Banner). It would appear that if you are fortunate enough to have a 'special friend' in a position of power, you don't worry about such things as qualifications. We should all be so lucky. We, the taxpayer, are not so lucky since we are footing the bill for this new 'lead' librarian in addition to a big salary for our 'director' .
9:26 am edt 

Question

Hi Clarence.  When a person submits a comment and signs his name do you contact that person to verify that he did indeed submit a comment?
9:24 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

"If you hate this so much there are options.  Request additional funding to have more staff in the building or to pay for staff to remain an extra 20 minutes after closing."



 
I don't "hate this".  I just want you to post the truth, that the library hours for the public are from:

10am - 4:45pm on Mondays and Fridays
10am - 7:45pm on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays
1 - 4:45pm on Saturdays and Sundays

Is that too difficult?
9:20 am edt 

You need to Be Studied

Since too many of your actions have damaged people in town. You were part of the Sharon Lynn, Jeff Jaran and Candace Nagle fiasco. so yes we do scrutinize your "ideas" and "projects"--so many our of your area of work.

I am so glad you were not chosen for town manager. So glad and pleased. You were the last thing this town needed. Now we can move forward instead of being stuck in the mud of past misdeeds.
9:18 am edt 

Lopes Square

The police should be doing something about all the cars parked around the coffee pot. Its everyone one sitting in lopes square gossiping for hours. It drives me crazy its the same people every day not fair at all.
9:16 am edt 

Saturday, August 15, 2015

Carnival

 

Parade theme is candyland.  Conspiracy?

6:03 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

 

The library has had the practice of locking their doors 15 minutes prior to closing for many, many years. There's a very practical reason for this. There are often only 2 people working at the end of the day.
One must stay by the desk to check out books while the other walks through the building doing a security check to make sure no one is left behind, accidentally or on purpose.
It's a 4 story building with many side rooms and blind spots, so the walk through takes time. If the doors remained open more people would be coming in and it would be impossible to keep track of who was where.

If you hate this so much there are options.  Request additional funding to have more staff in the building or to pay for staff to remain an extra 20 minutes after closing.

6:01 pm edt 

VSB and PBG

 

It's time for the VSB and PBG to start promoting Women's Week the way they do Bear Week. This off season event used to be a huge stimulus for the off season. Come on directors of these organizations, do a better job with the shoulder season.

5:59 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort v FinCom

 

I'm flattered that you are so concerned about me, but I might suggest you get a hobby or do some volunteer work around town.  You obviously have far too much time on your hands.

Dan Hoort

5:56 pm edt 

Seashore Point

 

Does anyone know that conditions in the in-patient part of Seashore Point (the disgraceful substitute for the Manor) only allows patients one shower a week, I have been told.  Spent a night there some years ago. A frightening experience.  Where are the Visiting Doctors?

5:54 pm edt 

Thursday, August 13, 2015

Re: Dan Hoort v FinCom

 

"'Furthermore, if you watch our meetings, you'd know that Fincom isn't a monolithic entity. We all have VERY different opinions and disagree at times. How many votes are 4-3? Ask all of us, individually, what we think about the Pier Corp. The same with budgets, personnel or departments."

You say that the FinCom is not monolithic.  True.  You also say that many votes are 4-3, true.  I say that members of the fincom hate Hoort and that they are the posters who scold him here. 

The Charter allows for anyone to make a motion on town meeting and for articles come from anyone.  No where does it give, or suggest, that the FinCom as a body, make amendments or present articles.  Policy comes from the BOS and is approved by the Meeting. 

Too many big fish in a small pond and too many wanna be bosses.

Elect the Fincom and let the people choose.  Then we would see how many of you would be on the board.  Being on the PT Fincom is like Haiti with Papa Doc, "president for life".

11:01 am edt 

Re: Somerset Heights Neighborhood Construction

 

Would be nice if Town Hall took action on what is going on in that East End neighborhood. Show us the corruption that was there is gone or is it business as usual.

10:58 am edt 

Wednesday, August 12, 2015

Re: Police Chief

 

Fire golden talk already?! Instead let's give him half a million dollars like the last Chief.

6:48 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort v FinCom

 
"I am not sure who does the nasty posting about Hoort, but the superficial evidence seems to point at FinCom members."

Really? And just who are the Fincom members that would post something about Dan? Why do you think that Fincom doesn't like Dan in the first place? I think this Fincom you talk about exists only in myth because, as a member, I can tell you we all appreciate Dan's hard work, and have all said so many times. I've stated publically that I think Dan does a great job many times. There is no one, on this Fincom, who would disparage what Dan does professionally at all. Sometimes we have differences. It's normal and good for the town that we do. Things get talked out that way. We have differences with the BOS as well, but that doesn't mean that any of us think any individual isn't doing a good job.

Furthermore, if you watch our meetings, you'd know that Fincom isn't a monolithic entity. We all have VERY different opinions and disagree at times. How many votes are 4-3? Ask all of us, individually, what we think about the Pier Corp. The same with budgets, personnel or departments. So stop this "Fincom wants to run the town" garbage or suggesting that anyone would disparage any town employee for the sake of it. I feel confident speaking for my colleagues when I say none of us would. Also, as far as "running the town" goes, we all make policy that gets voted on at Town Meeting. Period. If anyone doesn't like what we propose, they can vote against it. I've supported several things that got voted down. Not a big deal...will of the people and all. It's not personal. We do the job we've been appointed to do and we do what we think is best for the Town *even if, personally, we actually think otherwise*. There are seven individuals on Fincom with seven different personalities an!
d opinions. It's about time the usual scolds stopped speaking of us as if we were the Borg and all acted as one. Watch our meetings and what we do at Town Meeting and that will squash that once and for all. I do, however, appreciate that you keep our SEO value so high.

Mark Hatch

6:47 pm edt 

Tuesday, August 11, 2015

Somerset Heights Neighborhood Construction

 

I am glad that I can write this here. I sent a letter to the Town Manager, Chair of the BOS and Zoning and no one addressed the issues I wrote about.

I live in the Somerset Heights neighborhood in the East End. We are a community of about 34 homes. A neighbor (Albright) who lives part time on Somerset Road has been building for more than 8 years. That was one issue I asked about. Isn't there a time limitation on construction?

Not one abutter has ever received any notice about any of his projects.

Another structure was built on this single family lot. It is called a "carriage house" but it is actually another single family home. Just because a prior building inspector approved it doesn't make it legal. Make him take it down.

There is a dumpster on the property which is never covered. There is insulation in the woods, paper and food containers everywhere. He tore off the second floor of the original structure so all that debris has been everywhere. Conservation should be aware that the bales of hay to protect the wetlands have rotted so the wetlands are not being protected.

Traffic and parking issues spill out all the way onto Thistlemore Road, blocking our driveways and blocking access to us and others, delivery trucks, etc.

If something is not done, a law suit against the town is sure to follow.

10:43 pm edt 

Dan Hoort v FinCom

 

I am not sure who does the nasty posting about Hoort, but the superficial evidence seems to point at FinCom members.  From what we know the FinCom really would like to run the town, but the charter says no.  When they are reminded of this they throw a hissy fit.  and personally attack anyone who dares to challenge them.  Hoort has challenged them numerous times so he is a favorite target.  When the FinCom members took office they also took an oath to uphold the laws.  Why then are they so eager to take on unlawful activities like trying to create a Housing Trust?  Where do they think that authority is given them?  Their roles are clearly defined in law, but they want to expand all the time.  This is a large part of the nastiness in town.  The meddling beyond their duties must be stopped.  I hope that the new manager can figure out a way.  having the town moderator appoint members is the core problem. They are in for as long as the moderator wants them.  They are appointed without any input from the voters.  A charter change to make it an elected board would be a great thing for town. There is no rational reason to not let the voters elect them and hold them accountable.  being indirectly accountable through the moderator is essentially without accountability.  

10:39 pm edt 

A Hoort Attack: What is it?

That is when someone anonymously attacks a member of town hall staff on a blog run by a finance Committee member!
2:23 pm edt 

Re: Parking

 

Any comments or thoughts about a previous post regarding creating new accessible parking to keep tourism alive when Duarte's lot is reduced in size or disappears .

10:35 am edt 

Monday, August 10, 2015

A Hoortism: What is it?

It is a document, project or report that appears to be based on research, knowledge and analysis when it actually provides no research or knowledge and thus is a factoid.

How many factoids equal one Hoortism? The answer will take honest research.
9:58 pm edt 

Re: Police Station

 

"Who and how many people walk to the police station? I go there once a year to get my parking sticker and oh yes I am driving the car  for which I'm getting the sticker. I never see anyone walking to the police station ever and I'v been here for 40 years."

Interesting post, this one.

The implication is that some people don't drive the car for which they get a sticker.  Explain, please.

I can't imagine having the time to watch the police station 24/7/365 to observe the mode of transport or to have surveys conducted to ascertain that info.  I have never seen an electron but feel quite sure that they exist. 

9:56 pm edt 

Re: Police Station

 

Putting the police station over on Race Point Road was Lynn and Jaran's idea. How did that work out for them?

9:54 pm edt 

Re: Police Station

 

Where They Are is Where They Ought To Be

The police on Shank Painter works. they do not disturb many neighbors, they have easy access to the town--without cutting through wild chases on Route 6--and we are used to their being there. they are also removed from enough, we can take them for granted. These are all good reasons to keep the police station where it is now. Renovate and repair. The solution is in front of our eyes.

9:52 pm edt 

Re: Police chief

No matter who is chief someone out there will find fault with who ever was appointed chief. Get off the Golden kick and move forward. He will have to prove himself and if he messes up he can be fired. Give the guy a chance. He might be full of himself at times but if he does not do a good job he'll be gone too!
10:29 am edt 

Re: Police Station

 

" Community Policing/Station should not be on Race Road"

What's Community Policing got to do with location of Station? Community Policing is an attitude - A mindset - not the location of the building!!

10:28 am edt 

Re:Police Station

 

Who and how many people walk to the police station? I go there once a year to get my parking sticker and oh yes I am driving the car  for which I'm getting the sticker. I never see anyone walking to the police station ever and I'v been here for 40 years.

10:26 am edt 

Sunday, August 9, 2015

Re: Police Station

 

Re; Race Road Location

If our town is indeed serious about community policing they will not put the station up on Race road where it will have limited accessibility for walk in  traffic. The Police should be in touch with the people that they serve. The VFW site is closer AND we own that land too, But it might be better to move some more offices to the school building and bring the police back to town hall where they used to be. 

3:03 pm edt 

Re: Police Station

 

To the former police officer, many of us can only assume it is the former police officer who was fired by Jaran....sour grapes and carrying an axe to grind does't make you any smarter

3:02 pm edt 

Re: Police Station

 

Here we go again re Police sTation!, The Police station is a rat hole that opponents would be the  1st to complain about if they hd to work there!! A better station could have been built for less 2 yrs. ago than the larger cost it will be for lesser space now! Stupidity reigns supreme!! It will serve us all righti it cost 10 million for 1/2 the size recommended the 1st time! NO,I'm not aPolice Officer,but I toured ,as a citizen, the current station & it was appalling! I can't believe it wasn't closed y the State! police business must continue,so I'm surethey'regiving a reprieve due to the fact an attempt is in progress!!

2:57 pm edt 

Saturday, August 8, 2015

Re: Police Station

 

Why not build the new police station on Race Rd. by the DPW where we already own the land? Then build a 2 or 3 level parking facility where the current police station is. The location is close enough to town that shuttles, which no one wants to use  even if it were free, though it probably would not be. Two things are for sure, we need a new police station and we need new parking because the town cannot depend on Duarte's lot remaining as it is and without parking close to downtown we loose our tourism industry. The old VFW site is just a mess and give it or sell it to some affordable rental developer.

10:29 am edt 

Friday, August 7, 2015

Re: Police Station

The truth about the police station is that it is an old outdated building that is not sufficient in size for our police department's proper functioning.

The original poster's claims about Jaran presenting it as uninhabitable are correct but... they were only claims by Jaran so that he could add a new police station to his resume. He really didn't care about the employees who had to work in poor conditions, he only cared about himself.

The current building could still be salvaged by spending some money on a full rehab and an addition. This alternative would be easier on the taxpayers and could serve for several decades.

Yes I'm a former police officer in Provincetown and every day with Jaran as Chief was one day too many.

Take it from someone who knows....
9:00 pm edt 

Re: Police Station

Lot's of cash has been spent over the last 24 months to bring the station into compliance and keep it open for the time being. It amazes me that people can speculate negative thoughts and write about it on here but can't
Read the paper or town warrants that have been voted on over the last two years rewarding repairs to the station. Sounds like someone has an axe to grind. If you have questions instead of spewing on here I would think it would be more productive to call or go the police station or town hall and just ask. 
2:41 pm edt 

Re: Police Station

 

"I recall reading Jaran and Golden claims that the station was ready to be shut down because it was so unsafe. How is it that this unsafe buiilding has managed to continue to operate without a citation? Are we just plain lucky, skating under the radar, or is the hysteria nothing more than a lot of hype?

Amazing that time has passed, and a building that was "unfit for habitation" continues to operate 24/7.

Make one wonder about the credibility of our town leaders."



yes - and makes me wonder how the heck our selectmen appointed Golden Chief. He sucks up to every person who confronted him in his past- duriing this "trial period as chief". Give him time -his true colors will come out. Shame on our selectmen for appointing him. I will not vote for any of them who voted for his appointment . Many others out there feel the same way.

11:59 am edt 

Thursday, August 6, 2015

I Love This Town

 

As a full-time resident and business owner I can not express how much gratitude I have towards this town for the opportunities given to me and my husband. This winter it is time for me to once again try volunteering on a board. I refuse to listen to the people that only complain about what is wrong yet offer nothing to help.

9:43 pm edt 

Police Station

So much hysteria was raised years ago about the need for a new station, yet nothing has been done. Is there a reason for all of that drama or was it just more hype to scare the town into thinking we needed to spend money on a new police station?

I recall reading Jaran and Golden claims that the station was ready to be shut down because it was so unsafe. How is it that this unsafe buiilding has managed to continue to operate without a citation? Are we just plain lucky, skating under the radar, or is the hysteria nothing more than a lot of hype?

Amazing that time has passed, and a building that was "unfit for habitation" continues to operate 24/7.

Make one wonder about the credibility of our town leaders.
7:58 pm edt 

Re: Library Hours

"There are signs posted at the library saying the doors are locked 15 minutes prior to closing. This is a pretty common library operation practice.

Obviously, I chose to work at the wrong town office, for my office doors must remain open to the public until the bitter end of the day."



Perhaps you should apply for the position of lead librarian.
7:56 pm edt 

Re: Court Street Parking

 

Why cant the selectman park in a taxi stand?

A Rat In The Basement

7:54 pm edt 

Re: Court Street Parking


"Sharon Lynn tried to get this (now) Selectman to obey the same parking rules as the rest of us......."

I agree with the previous poster that Lynn worried less about the actions of our former chief of police; however, rules, ordinances and the like should be upheld by every town offical -- whether appointed or elected. Corruption is usually what follows when the other guidelines are ignored. We have seen that time and time and time again in Provincetown. So don't sweep under the rug a concern about parking. Rules are meant to be followed in a civilized society. Ignoring rules about little stuff leads to big stuff. The kind of stuff that cost taxpayers hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Love,

Darla

7:52 pm edt 

Re: Library Hours
 
Look at the sign with the library hours that's posted on the entrances - right on the bottom it says the doors are locked 15 minutes before closing time. I guess it's just easier to complain on an anonymous blog than looking at the signs at the library or talking to the library staff sometime other than the last fifteen minutes of their business day.

I love that the library keeps pretty long hours year round and offers a lot of free programming, free wifi, computers, and a massive selection of periodicals. It's a great resource in town and from my experience very well run and well-loved by its regular patrons, occasional visitors, and one-time tourists who just go in to see the boat!
7:50 pm edt 

Re: Court Street Parking

 

"We all use quasi-legal parking spaces all the time living here."

Actually, most of us part legally all the time.

And there is no such thing as a "quasi-legal" space.  If someone gets a ticket for parking in an ILLEGAL spot, everyone should get one there, especially an elected official. 

7:47 pm edt 

Re: Court Street Parking

 

"Maybe instead of worrying about an elected town official, she should have spent her time worrying about disciplining her Police Chief such that the town was screwed over for over half a million dollars due to her complete ineptness. Just like maybe you should be worrying about how small your life is that you have to worry about where someone parks that isn't really bothering anyone. We all use quasi-legal parking spaces all the time living here. Worry about the big stuff and maybe we won't be paying out more money to people needlessly."

This kind of thinking will always lead to bad endings.  Trying to have elected officials set a good example should have nothing to do with the Police Chief.  When elected officials think that they deserve perks, we all ultimately suffer from the arrogance in one way or another, large or small.  Arrogant elected people are arrogant elected people and are not to be excused.  If you or I were to park there what would be the consequence?  We are all equal under the law(supposedly).

7:46 pm edt 

Re: Court Street Parking


"Sharon Lynn tried to get this (now)Selectman to obey the same parking rules as the rest of us......."

Maybe instead of worrying about an elected town official, she should have spent her time worrying about disciplining her Police Chief such that the town was screwed over for over half a million dollars due to her complete ineptness. Just like maybe you should be worrying about how small your life is that you have to worry about where someone parks that isn't really bothering anyone. We all use quasi-legal parking spaces all the time living here. Worry about the big stuff and maybe we won't be paying out more money to people needlessly.

9:30 am edt 

Re: Library Hours

 

There are signs posted at the library saying the doors are locked 15 minutes prior to closing. This is a pretty common library operation practice.

Obviously, I chose to work at the wrong town office, for my office doors must remain open to the public until the bitter end of the day.

9:29 am edt 

Re: Library Hours

 

"There are signs posted at the library saying the doors are locked 15 minutes prior to closing. This is a pretty common library operation practice."


Can you please tell me where these signs (which I, as well as one other poster here, failed to notice) had been posted during the last two weeks? Thanks.

9:27 am edt 

Wednesday, August 5, 2015

Re: The Parking Snitch

What is it with this town that makes people bitch and snitch about so much. Do you think someone is getting over on you?
9:26 pm edt 

Open the Doors

I am waiting and anticipating David Pangore's first day here as our town manager. Welcome, welcome, welcome. We need your ideas, your energy, your insights.

Can't wait.
9:24 pm edt 

I'm Gone!

 

Really sickened today to see one of our local restaurants posting a photo of a bloody, butchered animal carcass on their Facebook page. After a few comments from people pointing out how disgusting it was, the owner arrogantly goes on to try and justify and defend his choice of publishing the gross photo by saying, among other things, that he's vegan?? I don't need to see that kind of thing on Facebook. If you own a business and care at all that you are offending customers, take the photo down and apologize.

It's vulgar, disgusting and tasteless. These are words you shouldn't want associated with your restaurant. Well, they've lost a customer in me.

9:23 pm edt 

Re: Court Street Parking

Sharon Lynn tried to get this (now)Selectman to obey the same parking rules as the rest of us.......to no avail...perhaps her successor will have more sucees...or meet the same fate.
9:21 pm edt 

An Observation

 

Augustitis has infected this blog.

7:45 pm edt 

Re: Court Street Landing

 

"If you paid attention before you toss something like this out there, you'd know where people live, what's private parking, and what's public or resident parking. If you have questions, then get off your butt and go to the parking office and ask."

I did look at the Assessor's map for the address "0 Court Street", which is the property in question.   According to the Assessor's map the landing between Bubala's and the Fire House is owned by the Town of Provincetown.   There is no legal parking spot where the Selectman is parking his BMW every night.  It is a Town Landing that is supposed to be used to launch boats and to access the beach.  I can understand if there is an occasional need to park a car there for a few minutes, but I don't understand why a Selectman is illegally parking his car there every single night and why nothing is being done to stop him.  Yes, I get that he lives there an it's convenient for him to illegally park there, but why no enforcement?

7:43 pm edt 

Re: Library Hours
 
There are signs posted at the library saying the doors are locked 15 minutes prior to closing. This is a pretty common library operation practice.
7:40 pm edt 

Tuesday, August 4, 2015

Re: Sharon Lynn & Jeff Jaran

 

Sharon Lynn and Jeff Jaron are not Nazis but the devil's spawn for sure!! Evil people

6:01 pm edt 

Re: Selectman Parking

 

"If you paid attention before you toss something like this out there, you'd know where people live, what's private parking, and what's public or resident parking. If you have questions, then get off your butt and go to the parking office and ask. Some of you people must be missing a chromosome."

So very well said.  What is it that makes so many posters here love to indulge in character assassination?  Innuendo and insinuation are their major tools for living.

5:59 pm edt 

Re: Selectman Parking

Not sure about that area like one poster said it may be private. But if you are a selectmen they will take away a handicapped space so you can park your trolley closer to the Main Street.  Or if your a moderator you can park in handicapped spaces to pick up food.
5:57 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

 

"NO I don't see your point It was a weird posting but it did not imply what you are implying. Try a little thinking, my friend. that would help."

Try a little reading, my friend. The "see my point?" is in quotes. That means it was part of the original message I was quoting, the one that absolutely DID compare Lynn/Jaran to rape, racism and the Nazis. If you refuse to see this, I can only assume you are either a) the author of the original message and you are now embarrassed by what you wrote so you're trying to deny your intentions, or b) you're just not very bright.

Of course, I'm sure that if I pointed out that the sky was blue, you'd insist that it's red and a bunch of others would join in. That's basically what this blog has become - a bunch of people who just love to argue anything. Logic isn't necessary.

5:52 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

 

As for Dan Hoort: You should Have Kept the Cork in the Bottle

but you could not resist. therein lies your tragedy.

5:49 pm edt 

Monday, August 3, 2015

Re: Marcum Report

 

NO I don't see your point

It was a weird posting but it did not imply what you are implying. Try a little thinking, my friend. that would help.

4:16 pm edt 

Re: Court Street Landing


"Does anybody know if public parking is allowed on the Court Street landing between Bubala's and the fire house, where one of our selectmen parks his BMW nightly?"



If you paid attention before you toss something like this out there, you'd know where people live, what's private parking, and what's public or resident parking. If you have questions, then get off your butt and go to the parking office and ask. Some of you people must be missing a chromosome.

4:14 pm edt 

Re: Hoort, Hoodies and Housing

 

"Now Hoort is the expert on housing? Really? will someone please remind him that he is not town planner, neither a member of Finance committee nor town manager."

 

1) When did He say or act like he was an expert of housing?  He has discussed the FINANCING aspects of housing and has explored the legal aspects of financing through trusts.

2) When did the Finance Committee get legal authority to devise housing trusts?  Since when is the committee a collective expert on housing. 

He is the Finance Director and has the responsibility to oversee financial considerations of town operations. 

Hating him will not make his actions improper or illegal.

4:12 pm edt 

Re: Jeff Jaran

 

I for one hope the case slated for federal court makes it there prior to a settlement. Jaran needs to be pulled back into this -for he is the one who orchestrated this whole ordeal. There are texts from his cell phone(which then were explained were sent by Kim Hurd his GF using his phone -really?? . Then there is our current Chief of police Jim Golden who was directly involved not only in the Austin Knight sign issue but get this folks- did the investigation on his own superior- yes you guessed  it- Jeff Jaran and gave him a free pass. No investigation into phone text records etc. Let him off "scott free". I know the town will try to settle this before Federal court which I have heard is slated for not too far in the distant future. I truly hope the aggrieved party does not settle. I hope he takes this where it needs to go. I also truly believe he will be monetarily  rewarded with a far greater dollar amount if he does. And Justice will be served. Jaran, Shar!
on Lynn, and Tom Koumenalis will all be pulled into  muddy waters and sweet justice will prevail. Don't settle. Let Ptown heal by justice served.

4:05 pm edt 

Re: Hoort, Hoodies and Housing

 

"Now Hoort is the expert on housing? Really? will someone please remind him that he is not town planner, neither a member of Finance committee nor town manager.

Stick to the numbers. Stick to the limits of your job. that is a better move."



AGREE!

4:00 pm edt 

Sunday, August 2, 2015

No Need For Insults

 

""Did someone on this blog REALLY compare Sharon Lynn and Jeff Jaran's past actions to Nazis, racism and rape?"



I think it is you

You are making up this stuff. You are adding allegations that were never said. You are the sick puppy."

Wonderful!! Someone asks a question and posters jump on it as if were a declarative sentence.  It was a question.  Maybe a leading, or misleading question, but nonetheless a question.  So, the proper response would be a yes or a no.  That's all.  No need for insults .

11:16 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

 

To whoever accused me of "making this stuff up," and called me a "sick puppy" and to the person who said I'm "smoking too much of the stuff," below is a portion of the post to which I was referring. If you had bothered to scroll back a bit and read previous posts before labeling me a liar and calling them crazy, you'd see that someone actually DID make EXACTLY the comparisons I said they did.

And I repeat, this town (and many on this blog) need to get a grip.

"Lynne/Jarren/Marcum/Hoort

Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.

"Its a dead issue?

Racism is a dead issue, let it go.

The rebal flag is a dead issue, let it go.

Drug addiction is a dead issue, let if go.

Hitlers Nazi war is a dead issue, let it go.

Pilgrims are a dead issue, let it go.

Affordable rentals in provincetown are a dead issue, let it go.

Bill Cosby the rapist is a dead issue, let it go.

Hillary as president (yikes) is a dead issue, let it go.

See my point?"

11:13 pm edt 

Sascha Richter

 

Congratulations to Sascha Richter for a Great Article on HIm in the Boston Globe

Great to read Sascha's response to his landscape paintings, to color and to painting.

Bravo to him. It is so hard to keep the old masterly work of painting alive here in Provincetown. Yet he continues with the work!

11:12 pm edt 

Hoort, Hoodies and Housing

Now Hoort is the expert on housing? Really? will someone please remind him that he is not town planner, neither a member of Finance committee nor town manager.

Stick to the numbers. Stick to the limits of your job. that is a better move.
11:11 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Library

 

It happened last week to me also, but when the closing was supposed to be at 8 PM.  It was around 7:45, and the doors were locked. 

This had never happened before.  Why do they advertise they're open until 8 when they're not.  Very odd...

11:09 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

 

"Did someone on this blog REALLY compare Sharon Lynn and Jeff Jaran's past actions to Nazis, racism and rape?" 

 

I think it is you

You are making up this stuff. You are adding allegations that were never said. You are the sick puppy.

3:25 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

 

"Did someone on this blog REALLY compare Sharon Lynn and Jeff Jaran's past actions to Nazis, racism and rape?" 

 

No, sorry But You're the Nut Case'' No one that I read ever posted that.

I read a comparison of Jeff Jaran to a militaristic attitude and mandate.

You are smoking the stuff too much, kid.

3:22 pm edt 

Court Street Landing

Does anybody know if public parking is allowed on the Court Street landing between Bubala's and the fire house, where one of our selectmen parks his BMW nightly?    Can anybody park here? Are these town parking spots?
3:20 pm edt 

Provincetown Library

 

Went to the library 3 times this week when it was posted on their outside wall that closing time was a 5.

Two times happened at 4:45 and 4:46.  The third time at 4:41.

And yet, the door was locked and the lights inside seemed to be out.

Has anyone else experienced this?

3:17 pm edt 

Saturday, August 1, 2015

Re: Marcuum Report:

 

Lynn and Jaran are gone from PT.  They are no longer here.


Unfortunately sergeant Tom Koumenalis is still here and should have been let go long ago.He was given a slap on the hand. He intimidated and thwarted a citizen from voting in writing- not the sharpest tool in the shed. But vindictive and evil YES. He should have been given his walking papers long ago.

1:07 pm edt 

Re: Marcum Report

 

Did someone on this blog REALLY compare Sharon Lynn and Jeff Jaran's past actions to Nazis, racism and rape?

This town needs to get a grip.

12:59 pm edt 


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