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Sunday, May 31, 2015

Re: Reality Check

Having lived and worked in town for years, I have seen many things.
Most people who are here are amazing, in many ways.
Most people here who have worked, made good money.
Some invested well in their future here,
And some spent on other things...
Now the entitlement rages against those who were diligent.
Karma is, and will be...
11:04 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Larceny

"The town paid more than that for the library murals; which disappeared under the eye of Sharon Lynn, Town Manager."


Look, I have/had no love for Sharon either, but this stuff is as silly as it gets.  was she supposed to be sitting in a chair watching the murals?  
4:26 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Schools

THE CONE OF SILENCE

It would be great if some of the former teachers wrote to the board about their experience with "full class payment" and what happens when ONE (1) student cancels--and the Executive Director doesn't call anyone on the waiting list--and instead SLASHES the pay to the teacher. (Sorry, you are only paid half of what we promised because you didn't have 100% full class).
4:24 pm edt 

Saturday, May 30, 2015

Bravo For the Exposure

I am sure we could share many stories about the town's Art organization next door, phew, the cone of silence is in place too often!  Bravo for the exposure............they should look internally before they consider that massive expansion.
10:11 pm edt 

Provincetown Larceny

Under Massachusetts law, larceny of property valued at more than $250 is a felony that carries a maximum penalty of five years in prison -

The town paid more than that for the library murals; which disappeared under the eye of Sharon Lynn, Town Manager.
10:08 pm edt 

Re: Reality Check

"Well, what about watching all of the affordable housing people. How interesting that the couple who have the taxpayer funded land given to the developer of Sandy Hill have homeowners there who were arrested for growing and selling marijuana."


If anyone in this town cared, or even bothered to look into the matter, they'd find NUMEROUS people living in affordable housing who make a fine living selling "herbs" without having to report the income, pay taxes on it, etc. (I know the state has de-criminalized possession to some extent, but last time I checked, dealing was still a crime.)

Some of these people even maintain second residences in other, warmer cities that they retreat to in the cold winter months.

Oh, what a wonderful life some of us lead!
7:55 pm edt 

Re: George Bryant

Dear George--If Only You Could Have Been there

you would have loved the many people who gathered at the funeral home to honor you and give testimony to a life well lived and to a life lived on its own terms. You would have loved to hear how so many honored your sense and love of history and beckoned all of us to follow in your historical footsteps.

And you would have been pleased with the many people sitting in a yard you knew so well and owned in the past. There at Angel's Food, there in the parking lot, there along the water's edge, many celebrated again your passing and your memory.

Yes, you would have been so pleased and so proud to know how many people in Provincetown honored you, loved you and respected your vast knowledge of Provincetown.

Maybe, just maybe, you were there with all of us!
6:22 pm edt 

Re: Reality Check

Re - "Long hours and long commutes? Howo  would you enjoy a paycheck of $307 a week after working 64 hours, and driving to Hyannis everyday? That's the real world.
Blind to the privilege you are awarded simply by being born male"



Perhaps you should move to Hyannis then to be closer to your job - like the rest of us.  And if you don't like your situation - change it.  Don't have this expectation that you should live in Provincetown full time - we certainly don't have that expectation, we visit and then go home to earn the money to pay our taxes that support the town.

Regarding privelidge of being born male - I don't think any Gay male would say they were born with privilege - they had to struggle to survive in this world just as many others have had to do.

1:25 pm edt 

31 Point Street....

$300 fine ..... What a deal!
1:23 pm edt 

Back to the Hoort

If it is true that Dan Hoort did not make the short list for town manager--then I applaud that. How great and maybe, yes, maybe we can get a real town manager.

and that Michelle J did not apply, oh brother, thank goodness. She is not that talented and I am glad that we do not have to play the interview game with her.

there is hope left.
8:46 am edt 

Re: Reality Check

So sad to see these posts about the haves and the have-nots. Someone always has more money and someone always wants that persons money. To continue to this nonsense is idiotic. I have money that no one gave to me. Please appreciate this town and all of it's people.
8:45 am edt 

Righteous Indignation

Sometimes egregious behavior by the manager of an art Organization--especially in regards to the maintenance area--needs to be publicly exposed. WE all know that the Executive Director is a fancy name for the manager of the whole complex and has total control and thus staff depart. Perhaps this person needs to step down from the rareified white tower and see how her actions affect the lives of the staff. 

One worker arrived after the winter to his regularly appointed time to start work only to be told that he no longer has a job there. (He has been doing the work of two men--two positions were advertised, one was filled, so they just doubled his work rather try to fill the other position)

Why not tell him in the Fall when your non-profit art organization closed so that he can find employment over the Winter? I was so excited to be able to go back to take more art classes in Truro that when I ran into the guy who maintains it all I started to inquire about the snow and how lovely it is now and that he must be busy working--only to find out that he was summarily dismissed--and is still owed pay from last year!!!

However, the Executive Director with her high five figure salary just waves her imperial hand and it is off with their head!

I hope that people pay attention and stop sending in art work to be donated and auctioned off and other funds from their pocket books until there is an accounting of proper and perhaps legal behavior. I'm sorely disappointed to hear all of this as you must be, gentle reader--sorely disappointed. What a black eye for Castle Hill.
8:43 am edt 

Re: Reality Check

"Instead of watching, maybe you should think about you could improve your lot.  You see, we "rich men strutting around town" leave Provincetown to go back to the real world - we work long hours and have long commutes."


Long hours and long commutes? How would you enjoy a paycheck of $307 a week after working 64 hours, and driving to Hyannis everyday? That's the real world.

Blind to the privilege you are awarded simply by being born male, believing your ingenuity and hard work got you to the top. Are we are watching, while serving you martinis and cutting your rose bushes.
8:40 am edt 

Re: Reality Check

"The rich men strutting around town, casually dressed to kill and lording about don't have a clue how the rest of us live or how we really feel about them. But we're watching."



I'm not one of those rich men, and I'm not too sure what you mean by "rich".  Why are you so bitter?  Is it wrong to make a good living? Is it wrong to be smart,educated and hard-working?  You sound so very, very sure that any person who is not you, struts and lords it over others.  You are positive that anyone who has a job that pays well is evil and uncaring.  You make it seem that these imaginary guys were all born wealthy and have no idea what it is like to struggle to live with high college loans and other normal expenses.

Why are you so supremely arrogant?  Why are you so intolerant?  Did it ever occur to you that some of those that you hate so much make the world a better place so that even fools like you can live better? Or, would you prefer the world to be populated by people like you that are lacking in the basics required to discover, invent, innovate? 
8:38 am edt 

Re: Mashpee New Town Manager

An interesting concept! Maybe if we hire former Police Chief Jaran to be our Town Manager,we can pay the thousands we owe him for our screwup,on an installment plan!
8:35 am edt 

Re: 31 Point Street

Just read the article in the paper. What a crock! Owners get to destroy the property's in question, blame the contractors, claim they know nothing, the contractor isn't liable and the owner gets a $300 fine?
Where do I sign up for that plan? I'll get to destroy whatever I want and pay a minor fine? Well worth it!
When is conscom going to grow a pair and put their authority where it should be? Hit the owner with a fine in the thousands, maybe $3000 in this case and the contractor too. There isn't a contractor around that doesn't know what they need to do in order to follow the rules regarding wetlands and conservation issues. EVERYONE KNOWS THE RULES but nobody enforces them with any teeth. Now that everyone knows it's just a $300 fine, we're going to see more.
And don't tell me about the re-vegetating and how costly it will be to the owners. That's what they wanted in the first place!! Get rid of the old natural stuff and replace it with plants of their choice. It just costs $300 more.
8:34 am edt 

Re: Reality Check

The World has a Changed, my Dears.

You can't throw tenterhooks into time and keep it standing still. The world changes. New Bedford was the richest city in the country because the country relied on whale oil--and then  oil was discovered in Pennsylvania.  Growing up, factory workers in New Bedford had a middle class life and bought homes.

Provincetown was a fishing village with 7 schools at one time. The times aren't a changing--they have a changed, my dears.

You are trying to hold back time with all of this affordable housing--but one still needs to work to pay the rent and the utilities and they are due every single month--winter and summer. At some point, it won't be even affordable for some people.

All of this gnashing of teeth and hang wringing over the changes--but Provincetown like the rest of the nation is becoming a nation of retiring baby boomers--remember them?

Back in the 1970's the baby boomers were a flood of youth coming into their own. It was all peace and love and following your dreams and living in communes and going back to nature and turning your back on the corporate world.

It was free love-NOT MARRIAGE!!!


Now one needs a job in the corporate world to live here. The world has a changed, my dears.
8:32 am edt 

Friday, May 29, 2015

Re: Provincetown Public Library

"YES, it's true the Office of Public Charities found out that the Library Friends Group was operating ILLEGALLY."


But, this is just saying the same thing over again.  Can you tell us more?  Like how about a link to this judgement?  How about what laws are involved?  Have the law enforcement people been involved? 

Please don't keep this vital info a secret.  we care also.

I can't seem to locate any info on-line about the problem.
10:33 pm edt 

Re: Reality Check

ENVY

There have always been the folks in town who are full of discontent but now they have their face book pages and blogs to blurt it out and demand to be subsidized.

For years I heard how the gays brought up the property and now the locals can't live here..but there are locals who have businesses and who are thriving and have motels and restaurants and small businesses--AND NO ONE GAVE THEM TO THEM.

The world has changed, the middle class has decreased tremendously. When I was growing up, brick layers were able to buy homes and new houses.

Now we have a world of the entitled. Now WE have the "narcissist Generation" who grew up having graduation parties from kindergarten and who are told that the world centers around them and that the world owes them EVERYTHING.

Look around you. Look at the prices of homes and rentals AND even the cost of dining in the ads in the BANNER.  Look at them now and imagine then in five years and then in ten years--when you are that much older. You have a choice how to live your life and raise your family.

5:07 pm edt 

Re: Reality Check
 
WE ARE WATCHING

So you say that you are watching the rich men strutting around town who work and aren't looking for subsidized housing?

Well, what about watching all of the affordable housing people. How interesting that the couple who have the taxpayer funded land given to the developer of Sandy Hill have homeowners there who were arrested for growing and selling marijuana.

Sure, on paper they are poor and so they buy the affordable housing unit--but their side business has them living high on the hog. How many other people that are taxpayer supported have their "side jobs" or work under the table. etc etc etc.
5:03 pm edt 

Re: Reality Check

"And man, the wealthy on the Cape colonize. Block off beaches,fence in yards cutting off traditional pathways, build oversized fiefdoms that suck up resources and complaining about the lowly workers young and old that don't serve them properly. The rich men strutting around town, casually dressed to kill and lording about don't have a clue how the rest of us live or how we really feel about them. But we're watching."


I get your point about hating anybody that refuses to share with you.  Maybe you should start a movement to no longer sell any property on the cape because the buyer might want to use it.  How about we start a movement to donate all land to you instead of selling.  If you think about it a bit you'll see that the real problem is those greedy people who sell their properties to those terrible people who won't give it to you.  Now, how about a possible solution to your perceived problem.  Should we eliminate private property?  Should we revisit Marx and Engels to see if their failed philosophy can be revisited with a new twist that will take into account human nature and the seemingly natural desire to keep that for which we worked?  
9:07 am edt 

Re: Reality Check

Re - :The rich men strutting around town, casually dressed to kill and lording about don't have a clue how the rest of us live or how we really feel about them. But we're watching."


Instead of watching, maybe you should think about you could improve your lot.  You see, we "rich men strutting around town" leave Provincetown to go back to the real world - we work long hours and have long commutes. 

We don't have this expectation or entitlement that we should be able to make a good living in Ptown year round or that we have a right to be provided with housing in the same town in which we work.

You have made a choice to live here year round and the result of your choice seems to be the envy of others who have made a different choice in life. 
9:05 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

YES, it's true the Office of Public Charities found out that the Library Friends Group was operating ILLEGALLY.
9:03 am edt 

Thursday, May 28, 2015

Re: Provincetown Public Library

"A "FRIENDS" GROUP OPERATING ILLEGALLY SINCE 1974"


Really fascinating.  How so. Illegally?   a private group?  tell us more and cite laws being broken and by whom.
8:28 pm edt 

Re: Reality Check

Re: "You crybabies have 70% of the real estate and most of the money."

And man, the wealthy on the Cape colonize. Block off beaches,fence in yards cutting off traditional pathways, build oversized fiefdoms that suck up resources and complaining about the lowly workers young and old that don't serve them properly. The rich men strutting around town, casually dressed to kill and lording about don't have a clue how the rest of us live or how we really feel about them. But we're watching.
8:26 pm edt 

Re: 31 Point Street

I know many on point street who were against this and did
Contact the conservation commision months ago.
7:02 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

With Library Friends like those who needs enemies!
5:40 pm edt 

Re: 31 Point St

Every resident of Provincetown should drive down Point St. and see what they have done back there.
It is horrible and sad at the same time.
I fear greatly for that house on the hill. 

There was NO structure at 31 Point St. before this foundation, and now they say the foundation is faulty.  I understand they had to pay a $300.00 fine, but I feel they should not be allowed to build on that dune, ( I wont even call it a lot).
 
We have to stop this madness or there will be nothing left of our beloved dunes.
Someone with power or authority please step up, as this is ridiculous.
3:41 pm edt 

Mashpee New Town Manager

Mashpee selectmen choose Police Chief Rodney Collins as new town manager

Please don't think this sets an example for the future of Provincetown. No way, no how, no weigh in.

Just saying.
3:40 pm edt 

Chamber of Commerce Party

Congratulations to the Chamber--A Great Party

thanks Candy. You always do a great job and this Spring get together at Bubala's was terrific. To you and your staff--Bravo!

You are a model for all of us of what leadership is all about. You lead and the Chamber and the town are so much better for your actions and plans.
3:39 pm edt 

Re: CBS on Provincetown

CBS painted the fairy tale view once again!  More the reality 3 jobs, no life in the winter without libation and stimulation and brutal backbiting.

Welcome "home"!
3:36 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library
 
COMPLAIN COMPLAIN COMPLAIN

WE HAD TWO "REAL" LIBRARIANS WHO COULDN'T MAKE IT WORK, A "FRIENDS" GROUP OPERATING ILLEGALLY SINCE 1974 AND A TRUSTEE PROBLEM.  SO NOW WE HAVE A DEDICATED HARD WORKING YOUNG MAN WHO DOES A GOOD JOB AND ALL WE DO IT SHOOT ARROWS INTO HIM.

SO PROVINCETOWN.
3:35 pm edt 

Re: Reality Check

"If people actually had to WORK all year, like the rest of us do, maybe they'd just shut up or move away. Honestly if some of you hate it that much, move. Do the rest of us a favor."


If I hear one of you idiots say that on the street, I will make a scene right in front of the tourists!!  In order to leave, one needs CASH.  In order to get cash, one needs a steady income (namely a JOB).  You won't hire older, more experienced workers because you're too cheap.

If I got a decent job tomorrow, I would NOT spend money in your shops, save every penny and move out in less than a year.  You crybabies have 70% of the real estate and most of the money...if you're not "happy" with all of the "deadbeats", why don't YOU get the hell out???  We're sick of you AND your hateful attitudes!!
3:32 pm edt 

Wednesday, May 27, 2015

Re: Provincetown DPW

We hear that DPW worker has to resign or be fired.  How nice for him to be able to bow out with no concequences. These town officials are way too lenient.
10:49 am edt 

CBS on Provincetown

Here's a link to the CBS 6 minute piece from Sunday on the town:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/a-walk-in-provincetown/
10:11 am edt 

Tuesday, May 26, 2015

Re: Provincetown Public Library

I think after DOING the job for over year, Matt was a good hire.  Why anyone would want the job any job in Town Governement is beyond me; a lot of miserable carping and sour grapes over the hire.  GROW UP and get a life!  Move on.
11:03 pm edt 

Re: Reality Check

Actually, reality does prevail here.

Provincetown was featured on Sunday Morning (CBS-TV). Nice segment featuring a comprehensive view of the community.

If someone was moved to move here and did the research, they would discover another side of the coin. That's the reality.

Food for thought for those friends who think otherwise.
11:01 pm edt 

Re: Wellfleet hiring a librarian from Columbia...

Big deal.  One of the former Ptown library directors came from Harvard, and she lasted less than a year.  And the former library board chair bragged to everyone she met that she had worked at Penn, and she knew Jack about libraries.

Different skills entirely. All the degrees in the world won't prepare someone for the truly nasty people in this town.
7:28 pm edt 

Re: Old Men From Truro

"When old man am I
Perhaps poetry I'll write
But you will be dead

Mark Hatch"


 guarantee you, Mark, you're already dead to 99% of the population. The remaining 1% are those unfortunate to be trapped and suffocating  in a room with you. Bad poetry indeed. 
7:25 pm edt 

Re: Facing Reality

Re: "Lastly, no I am not a Provincetown police officer but I did spend many years in charge of Operations in a similar type of business."



A similar type of business? Are you kidding me? A rent-a-cop security detail?
7:23 pm edt 

Licensing Board

Just wondering who this Michelle Foley on the Licensing Board is. Been watching hearings on TV and she seems to interrupt or talk over other board members, staff and, worst of all the citizens so come be fire the board for relief.  She acts as if she's the chairman!  Seems rude.
12:57 pm edt 

What's Up?

HEADLINE NEWS! Provincetown Cops Actually Do Their Job!!!

What's up with the proprietess of the Crown and Anchor all over Facebook telling us about the fact that he called the cops for disturbances at the place and....gasp!....they actually CAME and DID THEIR JOB! Does this require public thanks? Or do we PAY them (all 19 of them) to do that? Why is that worthy of a public thank you? Last night a lot of DPW workers made the town clean, did you post about that? You had running water, did you post about that? Your sewage went somewhere, did you post about that? The ferry that brings craploads of your customers could tie up, did you post about that? Another mindless power freak drooling over everything cop related. Responding to issues is what the DO and get PAID for. No need for thanks (especially from a member of the Building Commission) unless you thank ALL town employees every day. That is, of course, unless you're just sucking up to authority again.
12:53 pm edt 

Re: Reality Check

"Like it or not, until "home town" problems are solved, that is the message conveyed to visitors."

Speaking of Reality Check, the visitors neither know about, or care about, any of the petty politics of the town. They come for the lobster rolls, the natural beauty, the beach, the whales, the sun, the drag queens, the alcohol, and the ambiance. The only people who are about the politics are the old cranks who have nothing better to do with their lives who haunt the place. Maybe this is why everyone is turning against affordable housing. If people actually had to WORK all year, like the rest of us do, maybe they'd just shut up or move away. Honestly if some of you hate it that much, move. Do the rest of us a favor.
12:50 pm edt 

Re: Provincvetown Public Library

Wellfleet just hired a new librarian - formerly a librarian at Columbia University, according to the Cape Cod Times today.
12:47 pm edt 

Re: Facing Reality

I think someone from the PD should step away from the key board and start worrying about their job instead of defending an over staffed department. We as taxpayers are entitled to our opinions. Who knows, maybe it's        himself defending our posts because he's already been promised the Chief's job. Talk about the poster boy of dysfunction.....that simply goes well with the rest of the town and the leadership displayed by the BOS.
12:45 pm edt 

Please Stop Your Whining

Someone owns the largest bar complex in town, charges 10-15 bucks for a drink, serves people as much as they want and then complains that some woman got out of hand on the property this weekend. Really. Please stop your whining. All year you have an opinion of everything and everybody, well here's mine-suck it up.
12:44 pm edt 

Re: 31 Point Street


Was this not a vacant lot with a new structure built in 2014? According to the assessors records it shows the structure was built in 2014 and the land was purchased for $185,000 in 2012. Where was the existing cottage?
12:41 pm edt 

Re: Old Men From Truro

When old man am I
Perhaps poetry I'll write
But you will be dead

Mark Hatch
12:39 pm edt 

Hoortism Defined
 
Inflated ego +arrogance+ moderate knowledge= Hoortism

Be careful. It's a disease that spreads on contact.
12:38 pm edt 

Re: Point Street,

The conservation committee had to approve this dune being
Raised for a house,with there decisions in the last years,they
Should all resign. THis is the 2nd house allowed to cut into a dune on
Point street. The first house,when building the foundation, sand
Kept crashing down,exposing the property above. The solution
Was to drive large steel plates into the dune to hold back the
Sand,it's a matter of time until the sand fills behind ths steel
Plates and over flows toward point street.
12:37 pm edt 

Re: Facing Reality
 
It is readily apparent that you have no knowledge of personnel and scheduling. It takes a certain number of officers to provide complete coverage. Then you need to factor in vacations, holidays, sick time, and other types of personal leave. I'm pretty sure that you haven't considered this but... less officers usually means more overtime when you're required to operate on a 24/7 basis. Now, if you want to discuss the number of officers in certain positions, that's a different topic.
Lastly, no I am not a Provincetown police officer but I did spend many years in charge of Operations in a similar type of business.
12:35 pm edt 

Saturday, May 23, 2015

Re: 31 Point Street

Was the Previous Building Commissioner Involved in Overseeing 31 Point Street?

This may explain the disaster that now exists. It was nothing but a small parcel with a small cottage that was allowed to be a mega house when it sits on a dune. Yes, a dune. and now we have a situation that appears to undermine the dune and other houses perched above.

Were in the world is the oversight? this is but a small town. Is no one observing?
1:12 pm edt 

Re: 31 Point Street

I've been in the construction trade for over 30 years. Could someone please explain to me how one forgets to install rebar.
9:47 am edt 

Friday, May 22, 2015

Re: Town Manager Candidate - Dan Hoort

If that Is True About Hoort

wow, what a relief it is! Maybe we will get a professional town manager after all. We surely deserve it.
10:33 pm edt 

Re: Facing Reality

OK, so you don't want to agree with the consultant's recommendation that 19 full-time, year-round officers is the right amount for Provincetown.  Fine, you're entitled to your opinion.  That wasn't subject of the discussion however, the issue was the number of officers we currently have.  It was stated that there are 30 but I've provided 2 credible pieces of evidence showing there are 19.  Besides your say-so,can your supply any evidence to support you claim there are 30?
10:33 pm edt 

Re: Reality Check

"Provincetown: A great place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there."


Now that's a tag line!
10:30 pm edt 

Re: Facing Reality

Since when do we as the town of Provincetown put any weight on a consultants report especially written by the bafoon Morse. Many of us in this town believe and have felt for many years since Jaran arrived that we have way too many police officers. He's gone but staffing levels remain the same as do our souring tax rates. We need that level of policing for 3 months, end of story. You can point to all the articles and websites that you want but many of us who have lived here for a while know what the truth is.
6:33 pm edt 

Re: 31 Point Street

Bangs street,point street,lower Bradford.. The list grows..
Soon ptown can charge to see a sand dune.
6:31 pm edt 

Thursday, May 21, 2015

Re: Facing Reality

OK, if you don't want to believe the Banner and the consultant's report, then how about the town website? There you can find a roster of every police department employee, from cops to administrative help. There's 1 acting chief and 1 court liaison officer.  There are 4 sergeants, 2 detectives and 8 patrol officers. If you count the 2 student officers and the 1 animal control officer, there are 19 officers total.

http://www.provincetown-ma.gov/index.aspx?NID=162 
10:47 pm edt 

Re: Town Manager Candidate - Dan Hoort

The word on the street is that Hoort did  not make the short list for Town Manager.

I'm not suprised
9:08 pm edt 

Re: 31 Point Street

The Loss of the Dune at Point Street Was Predicted a Year ago

Neighbors wondered and were upset that the house on this property would cause the dune to give way. It was questionable from the beginning and where was Conservation then?

It hardly helps to put in a violation once what is the violation has occurred.

How do you put a dune back into being a dune? Conservation has too often failed when it comes to dunes.  Their odd position is that it is not a dune if a dune is not next to water.
9:03 pm edt 

Re: Facing Reality

There are not 30 full-time police officers, there are only 19.

This is the opening paragraph from a 12/21/2013 Banner article on the staffing report.

OK. Cite a story -- not a fact-checked news report -- from the Banner -- is that even a newspaper? -- that is over a year old.

That's a truly reliable source. NOT!
9:00 pm edt 

Re: Reality Check

No town manager, no police chief, mounting debt, decreasing year-round population, inadequate affordable housing ... the list goes on and on and on. I'm exhausted just reading this blog.

Perhaps Provincetown's advertising tagline should focus less on the past and more on the present in a realistic tone:

Provincetown: A great place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there.

Like it or not, until "home town" problems are solved, that is the message conveyed to visitors.

8:58 pm edt 

Re: 31 Point Street

Where Was conservation on Point Street When It Began?

After one year, someone realizes the dune is gone? Really? why were they allowed to do such damage. It seems that Planning was attacking individuals who wanted to move a few buckets of dirt to trigger site Plan Review. Was there site plan review on 31 Point Street?

Unequal treatment may be what happened. But if they are found in violation, do what has to be done to save what is left of the dune.
8:54 pm edt 

Re: Facing Reality

Another consulting firm telling us how to run a town,good grief .
8:52 pm edt 

Re: Old Men From Truro

It appears the legendary stories are about several old men. One who writes bad poetry, another who can't stand casual nametags and yet another who is an old salt of the sea who throws fits.

Well. We got Truro beat. We've got Mark Hatch. And I just know he writes bad poetry
8:51 pm edt 

Re: 31 Point Street

Don't you realize the town has no over sight on what's goes on,
Any idiot could have forcast the Michael shays development.

I personally called the town last year about the dune/ house on point
Street  and never Recieved a call back.

Time to get rid of your conservation chairperson.
8:49 pm edt 

Re: Facing Reality

There are not 30 full-time police officers, there are only 19.

This is the opening paragraph from a 12/21/2013 Banner article on the staffing report.

"Though theres been some grumbling over the last few months that the town has too many police officers, Mark Morse, president of MMA Consulting Group, wrote in the Police Department Staffing Analysis Report that 19 fulltime cops  the current complement  is the right number for Provincetown.
The police department full-time staffing complement (sworn personnel) is appropriate to meet the demand for police services when supported by seasonal personnel, the report states."
5:21 pm edt 

Banner Editorial

BOY OH BOY

Last weeks Banner editorial was right on the money.  One of the best editorials Sally Rose has written, it indicates a lot of insight into our ineffective Board of Selectmen and Town politics.  Sally you will be missed.
3:54 pm edt 

Provincetown DPW Employee

They did go thru the protocol on this gentleman, he even signed a document stating if he was to get disciplined again he was GONE. What's that tell you
3:49 pm edt 

31 Point Street

The new trophy house being built at 31 Point St just got stopped by the Conservation Committee after the contractor destroyed the dune over a year ago.  Now at the Conservation meeting the owners engineer stated that they forgot to install rebar in the foundation and the huge foundation is faulty and may have to be demolished.  What a nightmare, drive by and take a look at the destroyed dune!  where is the town oversight of this project???
3:43 pm edt 

Re: Truro and Old Men

Think what's happening now is a problem? I heard a particular someone in the east end, working to stop development of a particular property, is working with a guy from Truro, white hair, white beard, that THINKS he's a zoning guru. Thinks he's going to stop the development like some hired gun. The guy is a loon but hey, "birds of a feather ...".
3:41 pm edt 

Re: Facing Reality

"The Town is overstaffed!"


Fin Com hearings begin: November 2015.

Annual Town Meeting: April 2015.

Mark your calendar now. Otherwise, you will need to re-post your concerns again next year.
3:39 pm edt 

Wednesday, May 20, 2015

Re: Jaran vs Provincetown

"Just heard Jaran's side is getting half a million dollars straight from us taxpayers!!!"  


Um, I wouldn't count on Jeff or his attorney getting a check any time soon.
11:03 pm edt 

Re: Facing Reality

"The Town is overstaffed!"



Was this opinion formed by an experienced administrator, who has a comprehensive understanding of how Provincetown government functions...or...the hysterical cry of an uninformed ninny?

Yeah I thought so.
10:53 pm edt 

Re: Facing Reality

"The Town is overstaffed! We do NOT need an Assistant Town Manager, or a Lieutenant (assistant Chief) OR a Town Planner. And now we have a "Housing Expert" who does absolutely nothing worth writing about. The Finance Director has hired an assistant in the past year! A Town that is losing it's population is increasing it's senior staff, how does that make sense?? It is time to clean out town hall. If these people can't, or don't do the jobs they are paid to do, show results, that is, then we do not need them. "



Don't quite understand.  First you state emphaitically that we are overstaffed and list all the unneeded jobs, but then you say that people should do the jobs that are paid to do.  So, if the second part assumes that they are paid to do certain jobs then the jobs must exist to do.  If we are overstaffed that means that these folks don't have jobs that need doing.  Which is it.

I think that I agree that PT does not need all the people we have.  30 odd full time cops is about 20 too many. Assistant manager is probably surplus. Inventory of all jobs should be done and figure hour needed for each.  Then figure skill levels and experience.  Then compare to what we have and see if there can be consolidation.  
10:46 pm edt 

Tuesday, May 19, 2015

Re: Provincetown DPW

I don't believe they can just fire someone (which we heard they did with some former employees) without first taking precautionary steps like deciplinary action, anger management counseling. In a private company you can just fire someone but I heard you can't in a state or government job.
9:56 am edt 

Re: Truro and Old Men

"I Have A suggestion for these Old Men from Truro"


Again, it's been asked before but, again, what are you talking about? Why is Truro included here? What was said or commented?
9:55 am edt 

Truro and Old Men

Apparently their creepy behavior is invading Provincetown in the form of one trustee who had a melt down over a handwritten name tag..........whoah Doc., that behavior doesn't fly her like it does in New Jersey.  Keep repeating it's only a movie and you are just here part time anyway!
9:53 am edt 

Re: Facing Reality

"The Town is over staffed."


Your funny and must be a non-resident. Somebody has to be there to send out the tax bills and deposit the checks.
9:52 am edt 

Re: Jaran vs Provincetown

"Just heard Jaran's side is getting half a million dollars straight from us taxpayers!!!  

The town got f-#%*+$!!"



If he had been paid, plus reinstated to his position, then the town would have REALLY been "f-#%*+$!!
9:50 am edt 

Monday, May 18, 2015

Re: Truro and Old Men

Time for the Old Man and the Sea

To go down under. time for the old man to sail away and say goodbye. No more poem. No more articles on "art" and music.

One day soon the boat simply sinks carrying the old man with him.
9:49 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown DPW

How many chances does someone get. Just waiting
9:44 pm edt 

Facing Reality

The Town is overstaffed! We do NOT need an Assistant Town Manager, or a Lieutenant (assistant Chief) OR a Town Planner. And now we have a "Housing Expert" who does absolutely nothing worth writing about. The Finance Director has hired an assistant in the past year! A Town that is losing it's population is increasing it's senior staff, how does that make sense?? It is time to clean out town hall. If these people can't, or don't do the jobs they are paid to do, show results, that is, then we do not need them.
9:43 pm edt 

Re: Truro and Old Men

I Have A suggestion for these Old Men from Truro

Take up knitting or crocheting. It will straining the brain but maybe you can crocket a hat to cover that rather balding head.
5:36 pm edt 

Re: Jaran vs Provincetown

Just heard Jaran's side is getting half a million dollars straight from us taxpayers!!!  

The town got f-#%*+$!!
5:34 pm edt 

Re: Truro and Old Men

Re: "Did some of us miss something previously posted? What's the postings about old men from Truro. Can someone please explain?"


I'm an old woman in Truro, and believe me, beyond a few cranks and dangerous drivers, old men fade into the seascape.
3:22 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown DPW

Did that town dpw Whighway employee get fired? He should have. Hopefully there is an investigation going on.
12:44 pm edt 

Re: Truro and Old Men

Did some of us miss something previously posted? What's the postings about old men from Truro. Can someone please explain?
12:32 pm edt 

Old Men From Truro Embarrass Themselves

Small brain. Small thinking with an oversized ego. Pretense reigns. Scrath the surface and there is little there. Puffed up intellect that is a sham. How sad, how tragic.
11:06 am edt 

Re: Jaran vs Provincetown

No Balls if they give Jaran What He wants

In any court, this man would be found guilty and would  owe the town more than an apology--he would owe legal bills and would face serious legal consequences.

I hope it is not true that the weak and non-leadership BOS will give him what he wants and not go forward with an appeal.

I also find it interesting that Kopelman & Paige always want to appeal town decision but here they could be vulnerable. They gave counsel to Lynn about Jaran. They are in an odd position so it is better for this law firm to close the case and close the books.

But is it better for us? Hardly.
10:59 am edt 

Re: Jaran vs Provincetown

How much did Jaran get ????
8:35 am edt 

Sunday, May 17, 2015

Re: Provincetown DPW

Re: Town Equipment:

Truro will terminate a town employee using town equipment and provincetown will sweep it under the rug. They just opened the door for everyone else. Management is a joke. Lol
10:53 pm edt 

Re: Jaran vs Provincetown

Free cash
10:51 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

If you don't like the way things were handled then cut the budget the next time it comes up at town meeting. Why do we need both a town manager and assistant town manager for a year round population of 2,500. All we need is a good police force for the months with an increased population to handle the day trippers.
3:56 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

David Gardner has stated that he has received only one negative comment about his decision to hire Matt Clark as library director. There's a good reason for that if indeed it is true. Many people thought that since there was a process going on that would enable a search committee to select the best qualified candidate, they would have no reason to comment. David Gardner then ignored the recommendation of the search committee and the majority of the trustees and hired            Matt Clark who was the least qualified of any candidate. Many people believe that he intended to choose Clark all along which meant he made a mockery of the search committee. All the people who spent time, effort and money to apply for the position never even had a chance. For many people in town we will now never trust Gardner to do the honorable thing in any situation. He may have gotten         into a high paying job but in many place if you put an unqualified person in a job for your personal reasons, it would be like         , a good reason to fire them.
8:48 am edt 

Saturday, May 16, 2015

New Cabal?

Donagan, Ritchter and Dingaling. It would be the old cabal but Donegan tells the youngsters what to say and think and how to use the Bully pulpit! Community first my a**!
9:22 pm edt 

Re: Jaran vs Provincetown

Has anyone heard that the Selectmen have settled with Jaran
for a huge mega settlement?

How much will insurance pay for and how much will town have to pay for?

Can Selectmen make this payment, if not budgeted in 2016, without going to town meeting or does the charter allow the Selectmen special authority to settle potential litigation and make the payment to Jaran and then go to town voters as a fait complete to get the money approved?

Will this be the way other pending cases involving Jaran be handled?

What is the role of the FinCom in providing a recommendation to town voters on how this settlement should be funded?



9:21 pm edt 

Re: Everyone Knows the Score on Provincetown Housing

"We don't have a housing problem we have a immigration problem..... Stop letting all the illegals come to our town take our free healthcare our housing ,  give it to people who need and deserve it"



If you know of illegals here you have a duty as a law abiding citizen to report them.  It seems that you are part of the problem too.  
9:17 pm edt 

Friday, May 15, 2015

Re: The Sad Reality

"Maybe It's time for Carl to Face His Family Issues and his own. Take a breath. forget your arrogance in thinking you are soo intellectual and face yourself.

Not a pretty picture. Maybe all that you think about yourself--high fallutin--may reveal your many inadequacies.

Maybe you are not as artistic, or as savvy as you think of yourself.

Just one old man living in Truro. "



Why do you have to post your personal attacks on a public site?  Why not communicate directly with your enemies?  What kind of person are you to do this?
10:35 am edt 

Re: Everyone Knows the Score on Provincetown Housing

We don't have a housing problem we have a immigration problem..... Stop letting all the illegals come to our town take our free healthcare our housing ,  give it to people who need and deserve it
10:29 am edt 

The Sad Reality

Maybe It's time for Carl                    to Face His Family Issues

and his own. Take a breath. forget your arrogance in thinking you are soo intellectual and face yourself.

Not a pretty picture. Maybe all that you think about yourself--high fallutin--may reveal your many inadequacies.

Maybe you are not as artistic, or as savvy as you think of yourself.

Just one old man living in Truro.
1:33 am edt 

What the Hell is Going on Here?

this seems like bull crap. On and On on affordable  housing but what are you really saying.

Enough of this jibber jabber. It is taking up too much space here --so let the words roll off you tongue when you are in your own bathroom and leave us at peace.
1:30 am edt 

Thursday, May 14, 2015

Everyone Knows the Score on Provincetown Housing

This housing situation has been going on for years and years and years. No one can comes here now or even in the past few years and not be aware that the housing is geared for well-heeled summer tourists who can spend thousands a week or tens of thousands for an entire summer.

Provincetown is an exclusive summer resort. It isn't an artist colony anymore where artists from New York come here for the summer and paint.

It is a summer resort at the tip of Cape Cod with the deepest harbor and fine dining restaurants (or at lease restaurants with fine dining prices.)

Look at the entertainment that is being offered; the roster of celebrities who comes here and performs now--from hosting the Acadamey awards to performing in Provincetown--From appearing on Broadway to appearing on Commercial Street.

Move over Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard there is a new Grand Dame on the Real Estate Stage taking a bow at the tip of Cape Cod--Ladies and Gentleman look around you as I present to you the New Provincetown of Today and OUR  future. 
3:33 pm edt 

An Observation

Ask not for whom the bell tolls.  It tolls for thee!  Remember I told you so,
3:22 pm edt 

Re: Housing Reality

"When you reach fifty years old, the running around the restaurant each summer starts to slowly take its tole. Yet, the cost of living doesn't go down. And then when you are sixty?"


Sounds to me like this is a great reason to avoid working in a restaurant.  I wonder how long servers that work full-time in Boston last before it takes its "tole."  30? 40? I recently saw a couple of them that looked 70 at least.  Probably far younger but the "tole" really might have aged them badly.
11:50 am edt 

Re: Public Safety Officials

"Do public safety officers such as fire and police have a physical training program?"



Funny that you should ask.  There are criteria for physical ability before they can be appointed, but afterwards there are no regular requirements for weight or condition.  That's why we see so many fat-bellied cops.  Then to top it off, if a cop or firefighter has a heart attack it is presumed to be work related and they get to get a bigger and earlier pension.  No matter how fat and out of shape and lacking in exercise they are, they qualify.

What a great country. 
11:47 am edt 

Re: Provincetown DPW

Re:  Town Employee      

Has anything moved forward to investigate the violent town employee? 

Probably not I would guess
10:48 am edt 

Housing Reality

It took 15 years for Province Landing to open its doors. It has taken Stable Path over ten years and they are still not ready to open their doors. The Grace G. Building on Alden Street might be ready to have its 2 or 3 affordable units ready in a few years.

The community Center? How many years will that take? Plus, any Government money that is used requires that the housing be open to any American Citizen in all 50 states and its territories.

All of you holding your breath for this affordable housing to be built can exhale now. You've seen the reaction of voters at town meeting--AND at the BALLOT BOX.

When you reach fifty years old, the running around the restaurant each summer starts to slowly take its tole. Yet, the cost of living doesn't go down. And then when you are sixty?

What happens when you sustain an injury on your bike or are hit by a bike and can't work a season? What happens when your transmission goes? or you or your child encounters medical issues?

The desperation is being held at bay for only so long. The resilience that you have at 25 years of age to put with housemates who don't do dishes or clean the bathroom or eat some of your food etc etc loses its elasticity as you approach your forties and beyond.

Convince yourself that you can live on beauty when your are too sore to work two shifts or develop a medical problem or your rental gets sold.


The fact is that it will be years before you will get an affordable housing unit..and yet every season more houses are being sold or people are going into summer only rentals to avoid the winter problem renters.

You all have seen what happened at town meeting and the ballot box regarding housing--is it going to miraculously change in the next years as the cost of living goes up in this town?

What will a pizza cost in two years--thirty dollars? What will taxes be in two years? Provincetown is an exclusive summer resort now. Take heed or weep bitter tears in the years to come as many will be forced to do when the door closes on all of their opportunities.
10:46 am edt 

Public Safety Officials

Do public safety officers such as fire and police have a physical training program?
9:53 am edt 

Bemoaning Your Housing Fate

Yes, as was noted, the optimism of last year has faded away regarding housing the years of promise by the Virtuous Circle, Tim Guy Olive and his promises of housing and the failure of the voters to vote for a housing fund.

Also as noted by a die hard who moved--this person was so surprised to find that there are other lovely places to live that allow one to work and have a car, savings, a spacious HOUSE to rent with a yard--and money for dining our and seeing shows and even traveling..living like a normal person.

Another year will go by, another slew of articles will be tossed at the taxpayers asking them to fund this housing initiative and that housing project--meanwhile the folks who talked about sky in pie housing and got everyone excited with their voices of housing projects--from them there is only a deafening silence.

Perhaps it is just time to face the reality of the housing situation and move on
9:52 am edt 

Re: Hoort, Jaran, Nagle, Hurd, Lynn Cabal

You are Instructing Us about the Word Cabal!

You have to be kidding us--but somehow, I don't believe this is true.

We do not need YOU telling US what the hell a cabal is.

Just ridiculous.
9:49 am edt 

Re: Hoort, Jaran, Nagle, Hurd, Lynn Cabal

"//.a small group of secret plotters, as against a government or person in authority.
the plots and schemes of such a group; intrigue.
a clique, as in artistic, literary, or theatrical circles
."


Ok, now I understand.  So the Finance committee would fit into this definition. O perhaps the folks here that plot against government employees such as dan hoort or Michelle. 

Great to know that we have a living breathing cabal right here on this site.
9:47 am edt 

Wednesday, May 13, 2015

Re: Hoort, Jaran, Nagle, Hurd, Lynn Cabal

I Know that Sadly William Zissner died today
but do we really Ms. or Mr. Dictionary


to let us know what a cabal is? I hardly think so. Next you'll be giving us the definition of conspiracy.
7:11 pm edt 

Re: Hoort, Jaran, Nagle, Hurd, Lynn Cabal

Cabal noun

a small group of secret plotters, as against a government or person in authority.
the plots and schemes of such a group; intrigue.
a clique, as in artistic, literary, or theatrical circles.

verb (used without object), ca·balled, ca·bal·ling.

to form a cabal; intrigue; conspire; plot as in special interest
for money, Board approvals, lower tax assessment, unapproved
rental areas, and, and, and.
4:24 pm edt 

Re: Hoort, Jaran, Nagle, Hurd, Lynn Cabal

"A Cabal is a Cabal My Dear Friend...."

..and Dan Hoort running for town manager and the e-mails from candyland and the Jeff Jaran's "ruling" all bring this cabal back--and of course Ann Maquire and even Sarah Peake with the Sharon Lynn and Brian Carlson. Hoort is all part of this cabal and he even brought it all together at town hall and kept it going.

Look at his e-mails, all from town hall--all while he is on town time. rather nasty Mr. Hoort."


Comical.  Like the "Mouse that Roared".  Cabal is such a fun, fantasy word.  Of course it make no sense in the context used here, but it is still fun for the folks that thrive on innuendo, gossip, rumor and ad hominem attacks on those with whom they disagree.  It makes it even funnier tho think that these folks that seem to be totally worked up about good government want to deny people their constitutional rights. 

Hoort has a perfect right to apply for any job in the country.  That does not mean that he is qualified or will be hired.  If he responds to citizen inquiries on town equipment and time, that is exactly the way it should be.  I would never want a public employee responding to citizens via private correspondence. 
2:28 pm edt 

Re: Hoort, Jaran, Nagle, Hurd, Lynn Cabal

"They were opposed to the on-going  non-transparent "closed-group" form of governance.
And if you don't know this already, what rock were you living under?"



"Just crawled out and still can't quite grasp the point of the cabal.  What was in it for them?   Maybe they were in favor of "non-transparent "closed-group" form of governance.", but why?  People do things for reasons and to give you something to whine about is not one of them."

Answer:

You prove my point. Nec iopse sentiam!    
1:59 pm edt 

Re: Hoort, Jaran, Nagle, Hurd, Lynn Cabal

A Cabal is a Cabal My Dear Friend....

...and Dan Hoort running for town manager and the e-mails from candyland and the Jeff Jaran's "ruling" all bring this cabal back--and of course Ann Maquire and even Sarah Peake with the Sharon Lynn and Brian Carlson. Hoort is all part of this cabal and he even brought it all together at town hall and kept it going.

Look at his e-mails, all from town hall--all while he is on town time. rather nasty Mr. Hoort.
1:05 pm edt 

Re: Hoort, Jaran, Nagle, Hurd, Lynn Cabal

'What arrogance! You are very rude and not at all articulate. Keep your hostile comments to yourself. Also, in the future, do not begin a sentence with "And".'


It still begs the question, if you don't know this by now, what rock were you living under? To feign ignorance is no defense. To feign sage-like intellect as the poser of  Socratic questions is stupid. The  repeated sameness of questions to all postings against the former regime is tiresome. "And", by the way, you need to change your repertoire.
11:50 am edt 

Re: Hoort, Jaran, Nagle, Hurd, Lynn Cabal


"And if you don't know this already, what rock were you living under?"

What arrogance!  You are very rude and not at all articulate.  Keep your hostile comments to yourself. Also, in the future, do not begin a sentence with "And".
11:27 am edt 

Re: Hoort, Jaran, Nagle, Hurd, Lynn Cabal

"Thanks for the response, but it is not an answer to the question. What did they expect to gain by this? Was it political philosophy? Financial? What? What was the opposition opposed to?"


They were opposed to the on-going  non-transparent "closed-group" form of governance.
And if you don't know this already, what rock were you living under?
10:36 am edt 

Re: Hoort, Jaran, Nagle, Hurd, Lynn Cabal

"Answer: They were attempting to get rid of the opposition i.e. Donegan, Canizalis, Yingling, Walker, Avellar et al and to promote Knight. It even became apparent to  the police, thus their vote of no confidence."


Thanks for the response, but it is not an answer to the question. What did they expect to gain by this?  Was it political philosophy?  Financial?  What?  What was the opposition opposed to?  
10:26 am edt 

Re: Hoort, Jaran, Nagle, Hurd, Lynn Cabal

Enough already about the effing "cabal," and the people who are long gone!!  We're sick of your broken-record, whining and blaming over people who aren't here anymore!!  And considering what a bunch of winners (sarcasm intended) populate the BOS and FinCom, you have no place complaining about the past bunch.  Stupid, greedy, mean-spirited people with the "I've got mine, screw the rest of you" attitude elected BOTH gangs, so suck it up and blame the fool in the mirror.  And if you're whining when you can't or don't vote, then move here full-time and get screwed year-round like the rest of us, and earn the right to vote here.  Be grateful for what you have -- some of us are in far worse shape and we're sick of you belly-aching about your one-percenter problems.
10:24 am edt 

Re: Hoort, Jaran, Nagle, Hurd, Lynn Cabal

"Hoort was in with Jaran and Nagle and Hurd and Lynn"

They were all together in this cabal--and yes, it was a cabal. Look closely at their e-mails and the town time spent communicating to each other against many others.

Part of Jaran's failures are linked to the Nagle conspiracy that did involve Hoort."


This theory is still looking for an answer. What was the "conspiracy" and what did this "cabal" expect to gain from it?


Answer: They were attempting to get rid of the opposition i.e. Donegan, Canizalis, Yingling, Walker, Avellar et al and to promote Knight. It even became apparent to  the police, thus their vote of no confidence.
9:58 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

"Hoort was in with Jaran and Nagle and Hurd and Lynn

They were all together in this cabal--and yes, it was a cabal. Look closely at their e-mails and the town time spent communicating to each other against many others.

Part of Jaran's failures are linked to the Nagle conspiracy that did involve Hoort."



This theory is still looking for an answer.  What was the "conspiracy" and what did this "cabal" expect to gain from it?

Was it like a coup in some two bit country?  I still am awaiting a definition of the "Nagle conspiracy".  Conspiracies have a point.  What was it here?
9:44 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

Part of Jaran's failures are linked to the Nagle conspiracy that did involve Hoort.

Sure. Need a tin foil hat to ward off death rays? Available at Cumberland Farms, next to the muffins.
7:58 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

I don't think Dan Hoort is mature enough to be in a senior position. Professionals do not stoop to the foolish behavior that he has exhibited on the job and in his personal life, even for Provincetown! Just as Goldie can't be considered for Chief, Danny can't be considered for Manager. Both of them are lucky to have escaped culpability for the past!
7:56 am edt 

Tuesday, May 12, 2015

Re: Dan Hoort

Hoort was in with Jaran and Nagle and Hurd and Lynn

They were all together in this cabal--and yes, it was a cabal. Look closely at their e-mails and the town time spent communicating to each other against many others.

Part of Jaran's failures are linked to the Nagle conspiracy that did involve Hoort.
8:02 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown DPW

Yes, we all do know who they are, Hey you can join the club, cause your next to go...LOL
7:29 pm edt 

Monday, May 11, 2015

Re: Dan Hoort

Oh, Really, Dan Hoort is removing Himself from social Media

because the conversation is too low and the statements too negative. How odd. Hoort has been for years Mr. Negative but now, in running to be town  manager, he must be pure, purer than Ceasar's wife.

It's an impossible dream!
11:23 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown DPW

Believe only what you see not what you hear all the haters that are posting on this site worked for the DPW and got fired One for stealing money and the other for doing water work with the towns heavy equipment then sent the home owner a bill so take it as you will there's all ways to sides to a story All you haters get a life we all know who you are
8:22 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown DPW

He attacked a co worker with a shovel??  WHAT?? Isnt that a criminal offence? What's going on with the administration and the DPW?
6:48 pm edt 

Reality Check - Provicetown Finances

Provincetown as a tourist destination... from the Town of Provincetown website:

The Town has received the 3rd quarter payment for the room occupancy tax and the meals tax.  The 3rd quarter payment is for the months of November, December and January.

Room Tax  $80,944 down 1.4%

The room tax payment of $80,944 is a decrease of 1.4% over the $82,101 we received in March 2014.  Year to date we have received $1,873,374 which is an increase of $117,829 or 6.7% from last years total of $1,755,544 through the first three quarters.

Meals Tax $30,905 down 4.0%

The meals tax payment of $30,905 is a decrease of 4.0% over the $31,350 we received in March 2014.  Year to date we have received $517,518 which is an increase of $28,286 or 5.8% from last years total of $489,232 through the first three quarters.
6:40 pm edt 

Welcome to Provincetown, America...

The home base of the art of character assassination, almost everybody's favorite blood sport.  Yes, our lovely "paradise" is a cesspit of toxic venom, come watch the animals eating the flesh of their neighbors.  Despite the money, this place makes Detroit look like a major improvement.
6:35 pm edt 

Re: Housing Specialist

"I think our housing specialist is doing a great job of keeping the riff raff out of town"


Truer words have never been spoken, most of the time I have seen our "housing specialist" work it has occurred to me that she is working against housing for the most deserving and blocking the way to housing for people who deserve it and the very people who make the town work. This is truly the worst person to have in this job if we ever expect to get anywhere with community housing!!
6:23 pm edt 

Re: Housing Specialist

This is a position funded through Town Meeting.

Note to complaining culprit(s): kvetch as you wish, but we approved funding for this with next fiscal year's budget. You need to show up and speak up at Town Meeting if you want action. Otherwise, no action will be taken.

Perhaps those of you with an ax to grind, a strong opinion about the HS position, the incumbent, or the articles on the warrant that couldn't attend ATM to voice your concerns, you should come before the BOS and let the record reflect your lament.

My suspicion is your schedule will conflict with whenever a public meeting convenes.

To a few, it might seem far easier to sit back and complain. That's great ... but if you want to change the landscape, mow the lawn. If you want to change the complexion, pop the pours.

To everyone, I recite my standard Daralism: "Stand up and be counted."

Otherwise, my dears, you shall simply be left behind.

Darla
6:21 pm edt 

Re: Transfer Fee Petition

The real estate transfer fee is just that, a fee. One more fee to deal with in Provincetown. I pay 10 grand a year in property tax plus whatever else is taxed. Enough already. Barbara Rushmore this is a really stupid idea.
4:45 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Housing Specialist

Why Are People Talking aBout the Housing specialist Michelle Jaruwiczki?

Because of the former Micheal Shay project and be cause of her inept answers and actions in regards this property. this 40B case highlights her problems and inadequacies. And she still is not offering the information a housing specialist should offer. this development and the opposition highlights her inadequacies as a so-called housing specialist.
4:44 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown DPW

Re: Town Employee                                                          

Why wasn't he let go after he attacked his co-worker with a shovel?  Crazy how this DPW works
11:56 am edt 

Re: Provincetown DPW

This town employee has a violent past with his co-workers.  Was told Dpw Operations Director and Asst Town Manager went down to the Highway garage and looked into the computer and SAW his signs for his personal business. Something has to be done. This is ridiculous.
11:54 am edt 

Re: Housing Specialist

What? Her Husband Can't be Involved in affordable housing projects Michelle J is involved with


That is a conflict of interest. If she worked to make some affordable housing project done, she cannot have her husband work on that project. That breaks the ethics laws of this state.

It just gets worse, doesn't it?
11:04 am edt 

Re: Town Employee Computers

Are you kidding! Think that's the only computer being used for personal use on town time. IT HAPPENS MORE OFTEN THAN NOT and on our tax dollars at that. 
11:03 am edt 

Re: Housing Specialist

Please stfu about the housing specialist. Your ignorance is only slightly less than your colossal bad manners.
11:01 am edt 

Re: Housing Specialist

I think our housing specialist is doing a great job of keeping the riff raff out of town.  Be careful what you wish for. If you think our police and services are overtaxed now. Just keep providing more affordable housing. Look what happened to Hyannis, Falmouth, Brockton and Yarmouth!!
11:00 am edt 

Transfer Fee Petition

Please consider signing this petition by Barbara Rushmore, Susan Mitchell and Vince Currier.

        http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/transfer-fee-petition
10:58 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

Dan Hoort has made a fool of himself with Oatsey's help over on the Beacon. How long did Hoort think it would take the Beacon to crucify him?? And his foolish partner in crime, Klytta/Tracken....everyone in town has known this forever! Hoort will Not change his stripes, he's born that way!
10:53 am edt 

Re: Provincetown DPW

Tell us more about this town employee for the DPW.
10:52 am edt 

Re: Housing Specialist

Yes, the Year-round employment has been for the Housing Specialist

and developers. they have gained from the poor. they have made money from working for affordable housing. I like the former post which reveals so much. She is not professional and is not working for the town--but for herself and for developers of affordable housing--not those who need housing and have lived here for years. They, sadly, are not on her list.

We deserve better.
10:51 am edt 

Sunday, May 10, 2015

Re: Housing Specialist

Yes, the Year-round employment has been for the Housing Specialist

and developers. they have gained from the poor. they have made money from working for affordable housing. I like the former post which reveals so much. She is not professional and is not working for the town--but for herself and for developers of affordable housing--not those who need housing and have lived here for years. They, sadly, are not on her list.

We deserve better.
12:33 pm edt 

Re: Housing Specialist

I am so pleased that the residents of Provincetown are waking up and finally realizing that our Housing "expert" is NOT even a little bit good at her job. After all the time she has spent on our housing problems and they continue to get worse. Please, BOS, understanding the situation with hiring a town manager does not excuse the BOS from keeping this failure sitting there every week, barely capable of answering questions logically, let alone be successful in helping put a finger in the dam which is quickly emptying of resources. She takes the salary, increases the salary, however nothing gets done. NOTHING!!
12:32 pm edt 

Re: Housing Specialist

Figure it out!  The Housing Specialist's husband is a builder who is gainfully employed by the projects his wife arranges!
12:30 pm edt 

Re: Housing Specialist

Our tiny little town needs a housing specialist? She can't even create a spread sheet listing all of the 40B properties..ARE THERE REALLY THAT MANY 40-B properties?

Wow! that 40-B developer who lives in town must own a T-O-N of properties if she is so overwhelmed by the number of apartments that it is impossible IMPOSSIBLE for our housing specialist to keep an accurate account.

She must be overwhelmed with work all of these winter weeks when the town was closed down due to the snow storms to try to list the properties and the date that the affordable units become available at the current MARKET RATE.
11:15 am edt 

Housing Specialist Et Al

The excuse is that 40B housing has different deeded years of tenancy. Some were for 5 years, 10 years, 15 years--that is why the developer can build this 40 B housing because it never had a 99 year lease--WHICH IT SHOULD HAVE HAD FROM DAY ONE.

And what about the people who were hired to help people manage their money? And what about the program to find housemates for people. Oh yeah, that came to a screeching halt when they wanted to back ground checks not only on the renters-to-be--but also on the people who were looking for housemates.

So many people are being paid big salaries under this AFFORDABLE HOUSING UMBRELLA. It is a big, year round employer. Thanks to all of the taxpayers.

At least they have the sense to vote down giving $500,000.00 to affordable housing this year..because next year it would have been a million, then two million..until the taxpayers supported everyone who wants to come to town and rent a place to see what it is like to live in Provincetown.
 
11:13 am edt 

Re: Housing Specialist

It should be obvious at this point in time that our "housing specialist" is a fraud!! No training, expert at everything, effective at none. She has been working and taking salary from this town, and spending it in Truro forever. She has never seen fit to live in the town she makes her living from?? Too expensive?? she is not proactive or creative in her approach. She simply lets the developers and builders get rich off the town, create more condos for the weekend visitors and helps to drive the workers and natives from their homes. Enough is enough!! Get rid of Michelle Jewruiswitz and hire a real housing expert!!
10:10 am edt 

Tell Keith: We Want You Back!

It has been hell since you left. Many promises,  much destruction and disappointments. time for you to return and help us straightened out this town.

We need a manager and yet the BOs can't even seem to get it together to get it together.

Please, time to return home.
10:08 am edt 

Provincetown DPW

Hearing about a highway dept employee abusing the computer at work using it to make his own signs for his own business  whats up with that? Knowing this employee was on thin ice because of his violent interactions with his co workers and still works for the town??  Does it ever end??
9:36 am edt 

Saturday, May 9, 2015

Thanks Provincetown!

You don't disappoint. For a micro second there it seemed that the personal/professional attacks on town employees was dwindling. But no. You're up for spilling more blood. Emotional vampires.
6:48 pm edt 

Re: Housing Specialist

Why Didn't the housing specialist discuss or use the 1.5% threshold to counter 40B?

Why did we have to learn about this litmus test from a lawyer hired by an opponent of the former Michael Shay's restaurant development? I'd like an answer and I think the voters deserve an answer. This is the work of the housing specialist Michelle J and yet she never brought this up and could not even discuss what the percentage was. Why? this is central to her position.

Even now, what is she doing to help the town better understand whether we have met the threshold or we haven't. It appears she is not even working on getting this percentage.

She sits, she smiles. she is silent. Well, it is time for her to work for the interest of Provincetown--not developers who gain from her ignorance.
6:46 pm edt 

These E-mails Are Something Else

Candace nagle spent all day e-mailing either Sharon Lynn or Jeff Jaran and they to her. Dan Hoort is involved in these e-mails as well. and then I see Candace Nagle's facebook page--citizens against Mypacc which was deleted by Facebook. and then Jeff Jaran writes--as Chief of Police--to have Candace Nagle's Citizens Against Mypacc re-instated since Candace is doing community service!!

He surely knew how to manipulate and misuse his authority. Jaran was more than a negative force in this small town. He was poisonous.
6:17 pm edt 

Re: Oh, Brother!!
 
"Now Truro is giving us advice. Really? talk to those who once were here--but are no more."



Did I miss something? Was there a post in here or elsewhere regarding insight from Truro? I don't do facebook so if it's in there, I have no idea.

Anyone care to explain what's going on?
6:15 pm edt 

Re: Housing Specialist

I too Agree that the Housing specialist has done a Terrible job

She is there for herself. she can't give accurate numbers on housing and she has done little to help the town fight this 40B application. she defends their right instead of listening to the many voices upset with the Michael Shay project and looking to town officials for help in denying the application.

but she never gave us any information on the 1.5% of land and still tells us--without proof--that we are at 8.6% on affordable housing. How many projects did she approve that allowed the developer to sell the affordable units after five years as affordable? she was in charge and she bears responsibility.
12:37 pm edt 

Re: Jack Tracken......Who?

 This is a Horrible Posting by Klytta, Dan Hort's partner

this is more than nasty and a wide swatch of attacking. Dan Hoort sits and smiles, but when outside the public light, in the dark, he is engaged in dirty works.

No, we don't need a male Sharon Lynn as town manager. We do not need this type of behavior and spewing form anyone who is a candidate for town manager.
12:33 pm edt 

Re: Jack Tracken......Who?

 
Now that we know that Tacken is Klytta, current admin of the former Candyland page I might add, is it right to have this person's husband as Town Manager? Shouldn't these actions, and the write-ups he still makes, disqualify his husband from any consideration? This is exactly what the town does NOT need, more hate and venom aimed at people a select few don't like. At least we can all put two and two together and know who was making the strange Carlson posts on here lately as well, it's below. Keep these people out of Town Hall for good! 

The Provincetown Oyster
(formerly the Provincetown Onion)

An interview with Provincetown leaders.

Since our last interview much has happened in Provincetown politics. The May election brought former police chief Bobby Anthony, former selectman Cheryl Andrews and local business owner Raphael Richter to the Board of Selectmen.

The town moderator was unconcerned about the $1,000,000 tax lien against finance committee chair Mike Canizales and reappointed him to the finance committee. The balance of the finance committee seemed unconcerned that someone with a $1,000,000 tax lien for non-payment of payroll taxes might not be a good person to lead the conversation about the town’s finances and re-elected Canizales as chair. But, now we understand why his bed bug business was all put under his partner’s name.

Lynn resident Mark Hatch dutifully performed his role and went on the attack against staff member Brian Carlson for having the audacity to file an open meeting law complaint against the finance committee. Hatch, or Margaret Thatcher as he is commonly known, used both Facebook and mypacc, finance committee member Clarence Walker’s attack blog, to go after Carlson. Town moderator Avellar kept up her end of the bargain and rewarded Hatch with a position on the finance committee.

And finance committee member Walker dodged much more serious drunk driving charges when the police department and the district attorney’s office decided to let him off on a charge of driving on the wrong side of the road. There is probably no correlation between police officer Glen Enos having dinner with Mr. Walker shortly before the deal was made.

At the Oyster we are still perplexed how finance committee minutes recorder Maghi Geary filed a legal affidavit that from her flower shop a good distance away she could see Mr. Walker driving down the road the night of his DUI arrest and at no time was he driving in the wrong lane. Confusing as to why Mr. Walker would plead guilty to that very charge. But, we admire Ms. Geary’s incredible night vision.

And finally Selectman Tom Donegan was voted chair and Selectman Yingling vice chair. There is no truth to the rumor that Selectman Yingling was sound asleep when he was elected. And during a startling interview process Mark Juaire was not appointed to the charter review ad hoc committee when he expressed views different from the current selectmen. The wagons are being circled and if a resident isn’t inside the wagons they will certainly be on the outside.

And now it’s time to interview the leaders in Provincetown.

The Oyster: First question to the Provincetown leaders. . .

The Oyster: Unfortunately maybe this was not a good idea. The Oyster is unable to find anyone who is exhibiting any signs of leadership in Provincetown.

9:48 am edt 

Re: Housing Specialist

"Conclusion: Michelle J is Incompetent"

OK outing number 2: Look, we know you don't like Michelle             . But you don't have to keep bashing her here and elsewhere all the time. We all have our opinion of her being town manager or assistant town manager, but Michelle does a great job at what she does, is very knowledgeable if you bother to talk to her, and always willing to talk or help. You seem to have a big mouth but before I wrote this post, I checked and you don't even have enough sense to vote. You didn't vote in this election yet, there you were on Facebook, making fun of people and mouthing off. So everyone, when you see an insane Michelle J bashing post, it's             . And       ? Don't make me post some of what I have that makes me post this and out you. It isn't flattering at all.

Will there be more outings? I'll guess well just have to wait and see who else pegs the hypocrisy meter.
9:43 am edt 

Re: Truro

Aren't their people who live in Truro that work in Town and for the town that know what goes on. Where does our Police Chief live, oh Truro. Where does our Housing Specialist live, oh Truro. Where does our DPW Director live, oh Truro and on and on. Maybe they shouldn't say anything because they don't vote in Provincetown.
9:39 am edt 

Friday, May 8, 2015

To: Truro Bystanders

The Line is There; the Line Exists

You live in Truro then you are spectaters to how we live and vote and act. You are bystanders. nothing more.

So why don't you speak to yourselves? Have coffee , meet and greet, and then say goodbye.

You have nothing to do with Provincetown. You either gave it up or you were always from another town.

so let silence be your guide.

We don't need you and we don't really care what you even think. sorry, but you are from Truro!
11:53 pm edt 

EH! OH! Really !!!

Mary jo should find some quiet time in Truro!! You have to be out of your minds!! First, she would hate Truro as a place to live--and second, you are fabricating idiots!

Wish I could find better terms for your despicable behavior --but I can't.

You are such a bottom feeder.
11:49 pm edt 

Oh, Brother!!

Now Truro is giving us advice. Really? talk to those who once were here--but are no more.

For all the others--the real voters of Provicetown--it's time for us to talk,.

Forget these pretenders. Forget about these whomevers.

It is about us-- so let it happen.
11:47 pm edt 

Re: Jaran vs Provincetown

I say-tell Kopleman and Paige to "Take a hike".
11:45 pm edt 

Re: Jaran vs Provincetown

"To emulate Attorney Johnny Cochran:

In order to heal, we must appeal!"


Totally Agree-Only NOT K&P
11:44 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Banner

"If regular procession to the top is in place, the next step for the Banner is not good. What does one call a newspaper that is below "rag" status?"



Apparently your criteria of quality is whether or not you agree with the editorial content.   Have you ever posted an opposing point of view that did not demean and use derogatory words? Has it ever occurred to you that it is quite ok to be civil while disagreeing?
11:42 pm edt 

Jack Tracken......Who?

Jack Tracken is.....TADA Robert Klytta!

So let's get this solid. The husband of the guy that wants to be Town Manager hides behind a pseudonym, writes horrific and nasty posts, and generally belittles everyone! THIS is an example of the people we want running the town? You have to be kidding me! One wonders which identity is his husband (perhaps that will be revealed shortly along with some of the other famous posters). Holy crap! In what universe would someone want a Town Manager with THIS sort of baggage. How many of the posts come from his IP address on MYPACC? I bet the webmaster, with the help of a couple of friends, could out his posts here as well. Amazing! Can we please, as a town, finally move on from this crap?
11:39 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Elections

RE: While 40% obviously didn't make him the winner, this percentage is sizable enough that should make her wonder: How can I reach that 40% better in the future?  What should I do differently this time around?

What are your suggestions? Do you think it's because MJA is perceived to be part of the old order, or that you can't please all the people all of the time?

Because Provincetown is hell on it's employees and town servants...can a middle ground be reached?

Almost each of town employees, policy makers, board members, town council, staff at the Banner, etc have been vilified on this blog or on Facebook. So tell us, Mr. 40%, exactly how should MJA or MJ or DH do better, in your best paternal language, of course. We await with baited breath.
11:36 pm edt 

Re: Town Moderator Elections

"Congrats Mary Jo! I wonder who paid the opposition to run against you just to create havoc because he didn't know nothing bout anything!"


Ye, Congrats to MJA, but what makes you think that someone had to pay the other candidate? Several posts here have savaged him.  Why?  Because he dared to run?  And what is wrong with him exercising his rights.  Can you point out that he insulted and demeaned anyone during the campaign?  If I were in the place of MJA and all her very nasty, negative supporters, I would,indeed, be seriously asking why a candidate, as bad as they say, was able to get such a significant vote at this point?  Seriously, what is the answer(can you do it without being nasty and insulting)? 
11:33 pm edt 

Re: Housing Specialist

Conclusion: Michelle J is Incompetent

How can we have a Housing specialist who does not know or refuses to know when 40B is no longer valid in a town? How can we have a housing specialist who cannot answer or refuses to answer the percentage we are at in land and affordable housing? and how can we have a housing specialist paid by our CPA monies where for all we have done to construct affordable housing we are lower in percentage now in 2015 than we were in 2006 and 2007? If she has worked at anything it is to keep her position by making sure we do not meet the 10% affordable housing. and what of 90 Shankpainter? those affordable housing numbers go where?

She should leave this position, take her pension and depart. She has failed to really help those who need affordable housing but she has kept herself employed.
1:03 pm edt 

Sally Rose Leaves


If regular procession to the top is in place, the next step for the Banner is not good. What does one call a newspaper that is below "rag" status?
9:52 am edt 

Re: Town Elections

Congratulations to all the winners last Tuesday.

Regarding previously made analyses of the statistics on the Town Moderator's voting results, I'd like to submit this:

If it's true that Armstrong didn't campaign actively, but still managed to get approximately 40% of the vote, then Avellar might want to think about setting some quiet time aside in order to reflect on how a relatively newcomer could be chosen by 40% of the voters, over her, an incumbent who had such a lengthy record of public service.  A landslide it wasn't.

While 40% obviously didn't make him the winner, this percentage is sizable enough that should make her wonder: How can I reach that 40% better in the future?  What should I do differently this time around?
9:50 am edt 

Re: Town Moderator

Congrats Mary Jo! I wonder who paid the opposition to run against you just to create havoc because he didn't know nothing bout anything!
9:48 am edt 

Thursday, May 7, 2015

Re: Maybe It's Time For Those Who Live in Truro......

What????????
11:13 pm edt 

The Issue With Armstrong is That He Did Not Really Run

He did not campaign and what issues did he stand for except being against Mary Jo. He had no platform and had no signs and did not meet and greet--in fact, at  his own meet and greet, he cancelled his own meet and greet.

this is why he undermined the election by pretending to be a campaigning when he was not. and he did not even attend Town Meeting but was in Asia. This is not serious.
6:42 pm edt 

Re: Town Elections

The reality of the last election is best described by two words "Apathy" and "Hubris".

Apathy on the part of town voters who did not participate in the electoral process.

I suggest that if there had been greater participation the overwhelming number of voters
would have voted in favor of the current Town Moderator, thereby greatly increasing the differential
in votes between the incumbent and the opposition. Most of the incumbet supporters
assumed, "apathetically",  that she would automatically win and therefore did not feel compelled  to vote.
As it was, the incumbent garnered 60% of the votes. That's a victory.

The opposing candidate's constituency were very enthusiastic in their efforts and turned out their
vote, which in the end was not adequate to win. In fact, I would consider their turnout as saturated, revealing the limited depth of the body of voters; which goes to the second point 'hubris"

Lately, via social media, there has evolved a group of individuals that express an arrogant dismissal  
of the general Provincetown population. They are demeaning in tone and derogatory in their
presentments. However, in each of their attempts to exert influence they have fallen short of the mark

Oddly enough many of this group reside in Truro; which accounts for their lack of ability to muster a successful campaign. There are a handful of Provincetown Burghers who hide behind this group and
entice the throwing of bombs. It only requires a little thought to surmise who they are.  

They operate on the theory that they above it all are invisible.

However, we see them for what they are.
6:35 pm edt 

Re: Jaran vs Provincetown

To emulate Attorney Johnny Cochran:

In order to heal, we must appeal!

4:14 pm edt 

Oh, the Idiots Have Returned to Town

And post away. As Idiots are wont to do! There's no one willing to listen to you anymore but voice out to those who have no residence here in Provincetown--as you and yours no longer do!

Insanity runs rampart in certain families! Too much inbreeding. Well that is only one explanation for your insanity! More to come!
4:13 pm edt 

Maybe It's time for those Who Live in Truro......

....to stay in Truro and leave their nasty postings to themselves. If you live here in Provincetown
and vote here, then we listen. Otherwise, you might as well live in Idaho or Montana.

Big tongues with little to say should stay home.
4:11 pm edt 

Re: 1.5% Threshold Law

The controversy over the plateau that has to be reached in our affordable housing stock is indicative of the unprofessional and inadequate experience and unmotivated performance by our "housing expert", Michelle J.

Why hasn't this been an angle that she was aware of and using???

Because she just puts in her time!!

This is basic information, and even the most inexperienced of housing "experts" would be aware. Instead, our expert is still checking to see if we achieved 1.5% land dedicated.

We really should hire someone who is capable and understands the rules and how to apply them.

Our current housing "expert" is not doing anything to move us in a positive direction and we need to hire someone who can! This is too important to leave to this "home grown", incapable person currently serving as acting assistant town manager....what a sick joke!
4:09 pm edt 

Re: I Ashamed of This Town

This nothing, this person who mocks us, who was a shill, received more than 200 votes. You should feel ashamed at this mockery of our elections. He did nothing, He failed to knock on doors and ask for support. He did nothing but put his poor, sick name out there--and you voted for him!

I too am ashamed; OF YOU!

How dare you resort to ad hominem attacks against a Citizen for exercising their civil rights by running for an elected position.  If you disagree with their positions on issues, well that's one thing. But to personally attack someone for stepping forward, it is beyond the pale, shameful, conduct unworthy of a place in public discourse.  Is it any wonder more people don't step forward and get involved?  People like you keep poisoning the well.  Is it any wonder this town is So messed up?
4:07 pm edt 

Re: Town Elections

This man is a Joke

And he made of our election system a joke. Forget your smirks, Armstrong, you should be living anywhere but here. I am disgusted at this joke of you and your campaign.

You did only one thing: you pretended to care.

This is not enough and I hope you have nothing to do with any of us who love his town, who are one of the mortal sins that has appeared here.

You disgust me.
4:05 pm edt 

What an Embarrassment Armstrong Was!

The Beacon should put its face in a bucket--and you know I am being kind. What an embarrassment he was. a nothing. a non-candidate and yet, you, with all your pretense of sophistication, of all your pretense or art and "culture" are nothing but peons, those left on the side without taste, without class, without even an inkling of even an ontological insight. Oh, sorry, Oastey, Woastey, is this beyond your own comprehension--even if you would feigh so otherwise!
4:03 pm edt 

Re: I am Ashamed of This Town

Good God, give it a rest already. Your side won, remember? An by the way, any registered voter has the ability to run for anything if the follow the rules and the law as to how to be on the ballot. The rest of US should be ashamed of YOU for not knowing this and promoting this. And btw, MJA aint that great.
4:02 pm edt 

Re: Town Elections

Sorry mr. katsurinus-your man fought a good battle-but didn't win.Somehow I find your constant reminder of you're being an attorney a turnoff-fyi
4:00 pm edt 

Re: Town Elections

CONGRATUATIONS  Mary Jo-who ran against you? honestly . would like to know-do not remrmber his name.
3:58 pm edt 

Re: Town Elections

CONGRATS MARY JO!!
3:57 pm edt 

Re: The Library

It's a new day, a new director who will actually WORK, new trustees, and the blind eye turned to theft is now open.

Work to support it and come back, it belongs to us all! 
3:56 pm edt 

Re: "I am Ashamed of This Town"

I agree with your sentiments, exactly!
3:55 pm edt 

Re: Town Elections

If anyone in town had wanted they could have run and beaten Erik Yingling. He only got aprox. 1/2 of the total votes cast the majority of the other half either didn't vote anyone or wrote in a name (21 write-ins).
He should be ashamed he couldn't pull all 6oo+ votes cast. Maybe this will tell him something about how most voters in town really feel?
3:53 pm edt 

Re: I am Ashamed of This Town

You should be....so many of you have turned this town into a dysfunctional freak show.  To call it a legitimate town is a farce.
3:52 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

"Of course Brian Carlson got Censored!"



Ok, Ok. but where is a copy of this famous document?  Lies or delusions?
3:51 pm edt 

Re: Town Elections

The vote wasn't as much for this guy as it was against the incumbent. Her demand for plowing privilege in a winter storm and some of her appointments to finance committee merited a token protest vote.
3:48 pm edt 

Re: I am Ashamed of This Town

Does this really surprise you after the racist comments made at town meeting when the school video was playing? When a bunch of NIMBY people show up because, god forbid, affordable housing is built in their neighborhood (you know, the one where the empty liquor bottles and syringes didn't seem to bother them before). Is this really a surprise? Welcome to our new residents: the "I gots me mine" crowd who are so afraid of keeping what they have they have to hate on everyone else. Let's drive THEM out of town, and not pick on each other.
3:46 pm edt 

Re: Town Elections

Re: "This nothing, this person who mocks us, who was a shill, received more than 200 votes. You should feel ashamed at this mockery of our elections."

A message was sent yesterday. 


To the current town moderator we are not happy with the games you play and the unprofessional way you appoint FinCom members.

To the current Selectman who was re-elected you are not the person we thought we were electing.  You are unprepared and unprofessional.  Had ANYONE run against you, you would have lost.

3:44 pm edt 

Re: I am Ashamed of This Town

Of course those 200 votes were probably not "for Brian" but actually AGAINST Mary Jo. Not everyone is that positive towards her.
3:38 pm edt 

Re: I am Ashamed of This Town

What's more of an embarrassment is the lack of confidence/mandate in Mary Jo and Erik Yingling, who each only got a few hundred votes.  My interpretation is the voters want change.
3:37 pm edt 

Re: Jaran vs Provincetown

EX Police Chief Jaran

Let me see if I got this right. The arbitrators for Jaran feel the town should hot have:
(1) Fired Jaran but,
(2) Should have suspended him for one year w/o pay and,
(3) They don't recommend Jaran be re-instated but yet,
(4) He's entitled to one year of his salary, etc.

Is it me or what, there's something wrong with this picture. If anything, this gives the town more reason to challenge the decision. And if what I am hearing is correct, that the town did not follow the proper steps in the firing of Jaran is accurate, then take this all to the Courts and let the Judge decipher the arbitrators decisions and hear the towns reasoning for the challenge. Maybe then, a lot of the problems that were not discussed will be heard. I read the arbitrators report, and it appears that at least 50% of what Jaran has done/ was involved in /or did was "not" discussed.

Town Counsel advised the then Town Manager "not" to write up Jarans contract the way she did and so now the town may now have to pay the price. So is the option to go after Sharon Lynn a possibility so the town can recoup what it may be now liable to pay Jaran, or not ? To me it sounds like a good idea, after all, she never disciplined him for everything Jaran did and she padded his contract against the better wishes of Town Counsel. Why should we all look like the bad guys when Jaran was the thug.

Roger Green
3:36 pm edt 

Congratulations Mary Jo!

Victory for you and for us. So glad that you won. Congratulations!
3:33 pm edt 

No Wonder Landlords are Going Seasonal

I'm a landlord and I'll make sure not to rent to this person. The first thing he does is want to take the landlord to court. This is April, he has no lease and is given notice to give up the apt. Plus his rent hasn't been raised in three years--here is his rant.

listen TO THIS TENANT'S TIRADE:

I Need a good landlord-tenant lawyer. I'm the tenant. Yr round place to Nov, L-lord trying to get me out by July. L-lord claims tenant at will, I say year round means 12 mo. Paid first, last and security (not damage deposit--security deposit) in 2012, which does not imply tenant at will. Written lease from 2012--automatically continues? or am I tenant at will with L-lord holding 2 months rent I paid in 2012? Gonna fight this. Didn't suffer this winter to leave in July. L-lord has personal motives, no complaints, rent ALWAYS paid on time.
3:32 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"HE made a complaint against Fincom for a gathering at George's that I just happened to be a part of (I was "unknown person at the table")..."



And from that moment on, Little Marky H vowed to never be the unknown person at the table again, even if it meant slandering, bullying and shifting the sands of truth. He would be talked about, because, Marky deftly surmised, if they're not talking about you, they're not talking about you. And so, he began his quest to be the loudest and the most known, much to the dismay of the wiser people of Provincetown.

..excerpted from the "Tales of Little Marky H", or "The Warmest Day of           ", a soon to be published novelette.
3:29 pm edt 

Wednesday, May 6, 2015

I am Ashamed of This Town

This nothing, this person who mocks us, who was a shill, received more than 200 votes. You should feel ashamed at this mockery of our elections. He did nothing, He failed to knock on doors and ask for support. He did nothing but put his poor, sick name out there--and you voted for him!

I am disgusted. I am appalled.

What has this once great town become? I fear you can't even begin to answer this question.
12:05 am edt 

Re: Jaran vs Provincetown.

WILL THEY APPEAL

Yes agree. We will prevail with the "right law firm". NOT KOPLEMAN AND PAIGE.
12:03 am edt 

Tuesday, May 5, 2015

Re: Town Moderator

Change--tied to what's his name

you have to be kidding all of us here in Provincetown. this man is a loser, a no-show and a no-nothing. Next time you want to put some candidate against Mary Jo make sure it is a real, live and active candidate. This person is a joke and made of our election a joke.
7:47 pm edt 

Re: New Development
 
From all the hullabaloo, you'd almost think this would be the first time a dune was hacked into in the East End in the name of "development".  You forget what was once on the sidebar of this very blog for a long time.  I wonder if the new 24 units will be modular.  That would be pretty sweet.  Better start picking your endangered lady-slippers now before they go down with the ship along with the dune and any hope of preservation.  A precedent has been set. 

7:45 pm edt 

Our Fair Town Once More

One of the most destructive people who ruined at least one Winter Rental has moved to Mashpee..and now his cohort is off to an island..May peace remain in their wake..Halleluiah, Halleluiah, and the police must be singing this as well.
7:44 pm edt 

Blind Vision People

A FORCE OF DESTRUCTION IS FINALLY LEAVING OUR TOWN

Oh you blind people who only see a person on the surface of what they show you. Meanwhile, there are people in this town who suffered greatly by the actions of an individual WHO is now leaving for an island and acres of land.

Talk about covering your life with blinders! You know nothing of his destructive life to himself and others in this town.

No longer do I need to go to the police; no longer do we need to check our yard to see if our propane gas tanks have been stolen since these tanks are used in drug making.

May this life of destruction finally leave our fair town. How relieved the police must be-how completely relieved they must be never to be called to deal with this person again.
7:42 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson

Of course Brian Carlson got Censored!  He was a             in the grass who did more harm than you know that fair haired baby face boy that was Sharon's puppet! If he only got caught for one thing he did he was lucky!but he knew & moved on to Wellfleet !
7:40 pm edt 

Re: Town Moderator

I can't believe that the man who is running against our favored & learned Moderator is doing it to get even because she sat on one his board appointment applications too long! WHAT? We don't net a petty Moderator running our show! Guess who gets my vote? MARY JO AVELLAR!!
7:35 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch vs Brian Carlson

"He misrepresented the facts. The record of what he said is out there, and much of what he said was simply not true. He's not vindicated just because part of it may have been true."


OMG what is this Palinesque statement? Do I have to deconstruct this like the Couture letter? I was not even a member of Fincom when the whole Carlson thing happened. I was a member of the Town Manager Search Committee after my term expired on Charter. HE made a complaint against Fincom for a gathering at George's that I just happened to be a part of (I was "unknown person at the table") and I knew what was being talked about and he did NOT. After that complaint, someone sent me a copy of a permit for his own property for a gallon increase he had self-signed along with the story of what happened. I just made it public because, I felt, if he was going to issue a meeting complaint, he ought to be clean of any wrongdoing himself - especially when he had no idea what was going on. I could not possibly care less what the ultimate outcome was, all I cared about was the crappy (and wrong) open meeting complaint. What's to gloat about? The open meeting violation claim was dismissed,!
  and Carlson is gone from Town Hall now (and since he got censured, I guess the facts warranted that huh?). So who really cares? Good Lord, someone's really stretching here LOL but thanks again for lavishing so much attention on me.

Yours in good government <snark><snark>

Mark Hatch
7:33 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"You think you'd all find that refreshing in town government instead of the cabal double-dealing that's been going on..."



Mark, your endless, fraud-based diatribes are as fresh as last year's cod. Finger pointing, name calling (a witch) anticipating the death of others and basic hate mongering is nothing new. I sense you're pretty isolated, despite acting like you are the center of the decision making apex.
7:30 pm edt 

Re: Jaran vs Provincetown
 
Will They Appeal??

Let's hope so. Let's hope the BOS finds their balls to finally take strong action against Jaran. fight him and Sharon Lynn. fight for all of us. Go forward and take up the fight!!

Agree-I do not want that man to get one dime from this town-BUT this time-hire the RIGHT LAW FIRM.
7:29 pm edt 

Provincetown Public Piers
                                                                                                                          Pier:                                                                                                                    To all who pay tax in

Provincetown, beware of question # 2. some truths are unspoken and the wave attenuators is not project to Provincetown. This project could be a big disaster for provincetown and will cost a fortune so to MAINTENANCE in the future. The floating docks need be a seasonal and not full year
7:27 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch vs Brian Carlson

Hate to break this to you but Brian Carlson was CENSURED by the State for what was brought up. Why are you bashing Mark for it? He was, indeed, FORMALLY CENSURED.
Say it again and again and again.
7:25 pm edt 

40B and Michael Shay's

The development plan for Michael Shay's property is unacceptable and anyone connected with moving it forward should be ashamed of themselves.

The fact that people who purport to care about the history of Provincetown; i.e. Trustees at the Monument is deeply disturbing and will have a significant impact..wait and see.

Meanwhile let your position be known to the Selectmen' the fact that good people; homeowners of Provincetown are being force to finance an opposition to this eyesore is appalling.

More homes for 2nd and 3rd homeowners..........just what we don't need.
7:23 pm edt 

Monday, May 4, 2015

From: Elizabeth Read to Tom Donegan

Mr.Thomas N. Donegan
Chair of the Board of Selectmen
Town Hall, Provincetown 02657
Secretary to Board of Selectmen: Loretta Dougherty


Dear Mr. Donegan,

On April 3rd, I wrote to Board of Selectmen requesting that the town, or, if appropriate, the Cape Cod Commission complete an analysis of whether Provincetown has met the 1.5% land area calculation. What I learned at the April 29th meeting is that you have performed the calculations and we are in fact over this important threshold, closer to 1.8%.

To quote from our attorney Jon Witten's letter to you, "The Town of Provincetown Appears to Have Met the "1.5%" threshold of Chapter 40B and is therefore "Consistent with Local Needs." Simply put, meeting this threshold does not stop Mass Housing from issuing the site eligibility permit, but it does give control back to the town to deny the proposal or approve it with the very restrictions that other developers would be subject to without the ability for the developer to appeal to the state.

The Board of Selectmen and the various boards weighing in on the letter to MA Housing have received in excess of 100 letters from this community on the subject of 350 Bradford Street. Not one of those letters is in favor of this project. You have heard from people directly affected by the loss of their views, their privacy, their peace and quiet, and their property values. You have heard from residents concerned about every facet of this proposal: 'It's ugly'; 'It’s enormous'; 'It looks like it belongs on a turnpike'; 'What about the sewer?'; 'What about flooding?’; ‘My house will fall down the bank!'; 'My septic will be exposed.'; 'It will destroy the feel of the East End forever.'; 'I thought this was zoned for 9 units?'; and on, and on, and on.

Chris Wise's inability to offer constructive or specific information or answers to our questions about his building proposal at the 4/29 meeting was more than frustrating. He can't say what the building materials will be? The 'artist's rendition' isn't really what he proposes? How in the world did he estimate his costs for the application? His repetitive assurances that he wanted to work with the community to build a quality product were supported by nothing in the way of details.

This is our community. All I have heard about the 40B from the start of this nightmare was that it is an all encompassing permit issued by the State (MA Housing) that gives developers the right to bypass all local boards and appear only before the ZBA and further that the zoning board would have little, if any, of its normal powers. I also understand that the 40B approval is pretty much 'rubber stamped' as long as the developer offers 25% of the units as affordable housing.

Provincetown, because of our long history of working with responsible builders to address affordable housing, does have a choice. We have met the 1.5% criterion. This achievement is the exact same as meeting the 10% threshold. We are in a position of power that no other town on the Cape enjoys, use this accomplishment!

I'm writing to ask you to advocate for your town in opposition of these developers that we have so clearly told you we don't want.

Yours sincerely,

Elizabeth Read
674 Commercial St
Provincetown, MA 02657
3:09 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch vs Brian Carlson

"Hate to break this to you but Brian Carlson was CENSURED by the State for what was brought up. Why are you bashing Mark for it? He was, indeed, FORMALLY CENSURED."



That's odd. If Carlson was censured on the Hatch accusations, Hatch would have gloated. He always does. At any rate, even if it's true that Carlson got censured for a an inconsequential error (he wasn't terminated), Hatch still lied about the extent of what happened. He misrepresented the facts. The record of what he said is out there, and much of what he said was simply not true. He's not vindicated just because part of it may have been true.
9:50 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"But keep using my name. I love people knowing who I am. It will help me in the future. You honestly can't pay for this publicity. Imagine if everyone were just sile!nt about me...I'd just be another minor board member. Instead, I'm someone people have heard of."


And, just in case you wondered, I do not have any megalomania problems.  
9:14 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"Does Hatch remember that the bulk of his accusations trying to ruin Brian Carlson were lies?"


Hate to break this to you but Brian Carlson was CENSURED by the State for what was brought up. Why are you bashing Mark for it? He was, indeed, FORMALLY CENSURED.
8:32 am edt 

40B and Michael Shay's

Let's keep in mind that being at the 1.5% threshold does not mean we can't have any more 40 B developments.  What it does mean is that the town has more control over what kind and size development.  We don't have to put up with greedy developers calling all the shots!
8:06 am edt 

Town Elections Tuesday:

Polls Open 7 to 7p.m. but...

What are we voting on? I believe there are a few overrides but does anyone know what they are? I think some have to do with the pier but I'd like some information if someone can help me out.

And the only contested seat is for Town Moderator.
8:04 am edt 

Re: Michael Shay Development-Huggins and Witten, LLC Letter

There are two ways to satisfy MASS Housing's measure of affordable housing as 'consistent with local needs.' The 10% method that everyone seems familiar with and the 1.5% area land mass calculation which- inexplicably- seems to be new information to those who should know.

The letter from the lawyer states how it is calculated in exact detail but briefly- Provincetown is ideal for this method because we are so densely populated in a concentrated area. The land mass measurement does not factor in the sand dunes, woods, beaches, etc. ONLY the residential, buildable areas. When you measure in that way, we are at 1.8% --well over their requirement.

This doesn't mean Mass Housing can't or won't issue the 40B permit BUT it DOES mean the town has the control back to deny the proposal or put the same restrictions on it we do with any other developer. Because we meet the 1.5% measurement the developer cannot appeal. We are the only town on the Cape in this position of power.

For those worried that this will somehow affect decisions to build affordable housing going forward- I would point to Cambridge which has been over 10% for years. They do 40B's all the time...but without a gun to their head. The builder must work with the town planners, not dictate.
 
8:02 am edt 

Cutting the Budget!

I have felt for a long time that simple things add up.
For example: Every business that sells something in packaging should be required to have a trash container outside of their business and pay to have it emptied.
The town should put a "tasteful" sign where there are currently town trash barrels reading, "Provincetown does not clean up your trash. You are responsible for your own trash. Thank You!" (the town of Newport R.I. does it)

We have an ordinance against littering. Cigarette butts are considered litter and the fine for dropping one on the street or sidewalk is $75. BUT, the Police Department does not enforce it. They should. When it rains these cigarette butts end up on the beach.

The town should end trash pickup. When folks are paying for their amount of trash the amount will diminish.
Private haulers can still pick up for folks who cannot take it to the transfer station.
The "Old Dump" is capped and by law has to be mowed twice a year. That land is a perfect place to park cars. A shuttle could bring folks to town. A town on Martha's Vineyard has made a parking lot out of a capped landfill so the precedent has been set.

This is not rocket science but it is thinking outside of the box.

8:00 am edt 

Sunday, May 3, 2015

Re: Erik & Gloria - Michael Shay's

If I am an Abutter to a property and am on a board

I don't go to the clerk's office and report a possible conflict to get a dispensation. I do one thing: I recuse myself. And if I am on a board, I leave the room. I cannot stay since my presence and facial expressions and body movement could, in some w ay, possibly influence the board.
It's not complicated but it must be done.
3:47 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"Re: You know what a disgusting person is? Someone who writes a Banner letter and lies through the entire thing. You know what a disgusting person is? .  .  ."


Does Hatch remember that the bulk of his accusations trying to ruin Brian Carlson were lies? He wasn't voicing an opinion in an editorial. He spewed a bunch of falsehoods on the internet as if they were fact, solely because he wanted to ruin someone. That is what a disgusting person is. Mark Hatch is unqualified to speak from the self-righteous position he always pretends to hold.
10:43 am edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"I don't recall anyone in town making so many enemies amongst people who tend to agree with him on issues, not to mention the victims of his attacks."


Or surely you jest! There are plenty of people who have the same "enemies" I do, just read this blog and the facebook pages. Furthermore, I don't think I've ever had anyone arrested for flimsy reasons, lost the town a million bucks, tossed a fit in a restaurant and said "do you know who I am?" or been censured for using my position for personal gain. Like my "enemies" and their friends. I've come to know a great group of people who care that I number among my fast friends in town, and I don't care to be PC about anything I think. You think you'd all find that refreshing in town government instead of the cabal double-dealing that's been going on. But we all know that when these people are out of power, they're bound to scream and kick. So scream away! And remember, I always sign MY posts here. No sig, not from me. But keep using my name. I love people knowing who I am. It will help me in the future. You honestly can't pay for this publicity. Imagine if everyone were just sile!
nt about me...I'd just be another minor board member. Instead, I'm someone people have heard of. Thanks again!

Mark Hatch
10:41 am edt 

Re: Deplorable Living Condition of Children

I implore you to report your findings!  Family Services should be made aware of what you discovered before you clean it up.  My heart goes out to that family and they need help.
10:38 am edt 

Re: Erik & Gloria - Michael Shay's

Yingling and McPherson

If people are that concerned then contact state ethics to find the correct answer.  Don't rely on town officials, as we see how incorrect information can be given. State ethics is the agency that will know the correct answer to your question. Call them directly. Our towm officials at times have a tendency to misinterpret law.
10:36 am edt 

Re: Housing Specialist
 
Has it ever occurred to anyone in this town that the "housing expert" we employ really hasn't done anything for expanding housing in this community, other than to shuffle papers.

We need to hire a real housing expert, not a jack of all trades and expert at none!

I have no faith whatsoever in Michelle J. as our housing "specialist".
10:35 am edt 

Saturday, May 2, 2015

Deplorable Living Condition of Children

The family moved out of their winter rental and I gagged when I entered it. The feces smeared along the bathroom walls, the deplorable condition in which the place was left--uncleaned for 5 months it seemed. And yet the mother has her ad out for housing for her family.

I feel the need to contact the police so that hey can contact family services..the people from organizations have been here to talk to them, but they kept these people outside.

I feel that by having the police here, that I have a serious representative who can have the children taken away from this dire deprivation..I can't even say what the adult male in the family said to the children. It would make any decent person shudder. I can't remain silent--even if it costs me my job.
10:49 pm edt 

Re: Jaran vs Provincetown
 
Will they Appeal??

Let's hope so. Let's hope the BOS finds their balls to finally take strong action against Jaran. fight him and Sharon Lynn. fight for all of us. Go forward and take up the fight!!
10:46 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

Mark Hatch is the most divisive new face in the community. He's not always wrong, and has good ideas like the rest of us. But he consistently demeans people and his rhetoric is ruthless. He shamelessly uses innuendo and false arguments to subdue those who challenge him. He is more toxic to our sense of community than those he's railed against. I don't recall anyone in town making so many enemies amongst people who tend to agree with him on issues, not to mention the victims of his attacks. 
8:14 pm edt 

Re: Erik & Gloria - Michael Shay's

Public employees with a potential conflict of interest can file a disclosure with the state ethics office (AG) and their appointing authority - which, if the appointing authority determines they can participate in the matter without compromising the integrity of their work, may allow them to still participate.  It's not uncommon for town employees to do so.  It might be a good idea to check out the law as it pertains to municipal employees on the state ethics office website. 
8:12 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"Re:  Remember it's better to be silent and thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt."


Then stifle it, Mark Hatch. But I doubt you will.

This is getting tedious. Along with many others, I'll just skip any further reMARKS that come from this bag of wind and enjoy the spring.
8:08 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay Development-Huggins and Witten, LLC Letter

So glad those lawyers did their legal research

This is the information we need and one would assume would come from town hall. but, alas, not so. Glad these lawyers have given us this key information so that we can oppose, with legal backing, the 40B.

Waiving all regulations that are local is disastrous. Height, density, materials--all outside our purvue. NO!!Not now with this information.
3:47 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay Development-Huggins and Witten, LLC Letter

So, the folks against HoJo Heights,among other complaints, are stating Provincetown has reached its affordable housing cap. How will this affect the development/building other affordable housing projects coming down the pike? Can others against other developments in other neighborhoods make the same claim? We know that affordable housing is a key issue in town. This is setting a dangerous precedent. 
1:57 pm edt 

The Gig is Up, Kids!

Time to Get Real Numbers on the 1.5 % and the actual Affordable Housing Numbers

Please, can some board or commission get this? I think our temporary assistant town manager has never given us the real numbers. Her position as Housing expert depends on it--and her salary of $57,000 as half-time==funded by our CPA funds== requires that our affordable housing numbers be under 10%. Enough of purposeful incompetence and "I don't know the exact number" voice.

and when asked what our 1.5% could be, "Oh, I don't know." Isn't it about time she knows? and about time we get real numbers on affordable housing.

If we are at 10%--we can say one big no to any and all 40B's.

but someone here wants us below 10%--something questionable keeps happening with developers here.

However, I do believe: The gig is up, kids!
12:55 pm edt 

Re: Erik & Gloria - Michael Shay's

Conflict of Interest Law for State Employees

(f) Appearance of conflict. Acting in a manner that would make a reasonable person think you can be improperly influenced is prohibited.

This is the law.
12:53 pm edt 

Re: Erik & Gloria - Michael Shay's

Why do You think board Members Recuse themselves?

because there is a conflict of interest--or even--the appearance of a conflict of interest. If you are an abutter to a property, you cannot vote on any proposal. Any vote you take could affect your own real estate and could improve your assessed value and this is illegal. There can be no gain nor any perceived gain--even if it is small and to you rather insignificant. These are the Massachusetts Ethics commission rules.

And if your landlord is applying for a project, you cannot vote, be involved, or give public voice in your role as town employee or as town board member. Any benefit--like the cost of the rent--or the possibility or remaining as a renter--can be perceived as influencing your vote and presentments.

Why did Tom Donegan recuse himself? Because he is an abutter and cannot weigh in or vote or write a letter to Mass Housing. Neither can Yinging and neither can McPherson. It has nothing to do with whether they are together or not--it has to do with their shared rental from Paul DeRuyter, one of the main principals in the former Michael Shay's property. this makes both their actions and role in the Michael Shay project illegal.
12:51 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"I believe that Ptown is in the USA and that our constitution allows one to write ANY amount of letters to our government employees.  It is disgusting for a person to want to stifle freedom of expression"


Ah the typical simpleton response! Freedom of expression never included ABUSE of the privilege. You can't yell fire in a crowded theater, LOTS of expression is banned and I'm sure the person responsible for the letters and her cronies can reimburse the Town for the time it took to process all the email. And let's not forget the Finance Director who bypassed protocol to suck up to her every wish either. You're wrong. That's not "freedom of expression", it's political cronyism. Remember it's better to be silent and thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt.
12:49 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"Re: You know what a disgusting person is? Someone who writes a Banner letter and lies through the entire thing. You know what a disgusting person is? .  .  ."


Hatch just can't let it go can he?  His opinion is the most important and everyone needs to hear it,
12:47 pm edt 

Friday, May 1, 2015

Re: Michael Shay Development-Huggins and Witten, LLC Letter

It's the First time I hear About the 1.5%

can someone please explain what this means? And what, then, would be our number if all the points that some lawyer has written, were added in.

We have never been told by anyone at town hall about this 1.5%  Why? why wouldn't this have come from inside town  instead of from outside town hall? Huh?

I really don't understand what is going on but something is wrong and I don't think we are getting answers from town hall.
7:48 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

Michelle Couture Letter in The Banner

Let's deconstruct the Michelle Couture letter, since people have said I had a "tone" about her. if you read closely, you'll notice she is talking about the RENEWAL, but all that arbitration language was in the FIRST contract signed in 2008. He was NOT a highly effective employee, he was a NEW HIRE then. Michele was on the BOS when that original language was introduced, so she had to have signed off on it. As a second point, she says that it's routine for counsel to "provide advice which may or may not be incorporated in the final product". Pause here for a second...we pay town counsel to tell us how to stay out of legal trouble, and then a sitting member of the BOS willfully ignores it?

She then writes "the responsible course of action would have been to defuse community discontent by convening a disciplinary hearing". YES, she's right. Sharon SHOULD have but she didn't do it. It was only after Tom and Eric demanded the investigation, and the Marcum report was issued, that she FINALLY convened a disciplinary hearing. A hearing hearing which, btw, was HER job to do in the first place. So one is left to wonder exactly what Tom and Erik did to make them partially responsible for the monetary award? Call the press? Talk on facebook and the blog? Run campaigns? "Any kind of due process is nullified by their actions?" is she saying that Sharon did not provide due process to the Chief? Was it the BOS? I guess she can't make up her mind whether Sharon did a good job or not. Does she talk about the political block she had going on for herself with her as Chair of the BOS and he ex, the Town Moderator with Sharon in their back pocket? Thank GOD we have term limits or!
  she would still have her shriveled hand clutching at everything going on and still screwing it all up. And THIS is how someone at The Banner SHOULD be reporting on this issue, not covering up for their "friends". Am I being too hard on Couture? You decide.

Mark Hatch
7:46 pm edt 

Re: Erik & Gloria - Michael Shay's

"What are you thinking. I like both of you but if what I hear is true: what are you thinking? You can't be engaged in any project that might imply favoritism or imply undue pressure or even the appearance of political pressure."


Please don't get me wrong.  I don't like the project for this place.  However, if we prevented every project from going forward because of some connection between parties, nothing would ever get done. 
7:42 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay's

"If Gloria and/or eric vote in such a way to help--in any way--for this project to go forward, it is wrong and more than that: it is illegal."



Please cite the law.  
7:40 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"Someone who writes thousands of letters to Town Hall, and the people who let her do that still work there."


I believe that Ptown is in the USA and that our constitution allows one to write ANY amount of letters to our government employees.  It is disgusting for a person to want to stifle freedom of expression. 
7:38 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"I hope we get more people like him (Mark Hatch), and less like you and the above (you mean, like, God?). It's what we need here. It's about time we heard less from people like you."



Well put, Mark Hatch. The writing style, the atmospheric self regard, the titanic ego...now THIS is transparency at its finest. Thanks Mark!
7:36 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"What a disgusting person."


You know what a disgusting person is? Someone who writes a Banner letter and lies through the entire thing. You know what a disgusting person is? Someone who scoots out of town and leaves the town with hundreds of thousands of dollars in lawsuits (maybe millions when done). You know what a disgusting person is? Someone who sits on the highest Town Board and who's house is sitting at half the evaluation it should be. You know who's a disgusting person? Someone who writes thousands of letters to Town Hall, and the people who let her do that still work there. You know what a disgusting person is? Someone who, when he can't get his way, uses his position to bully, intimidate, electioneer, and arrest people without reason.

We get it. You don't like Mark. You know what? He tells you what he thinks. I'll take that over the other bull any day of the week. I've met him and talked to him a lot. He's a great guy who cares about the town as a whole and not about you. I hope we get more people like him, and less like you and the above. It's what we need here. It's about time we heard less from people like you.
3:46 pm edt 

Re: Erik & Gloria - Michael Shay's

 The LandLord is Paul DeRuyter

   He is Gloria McPherson and he is Eric Yingling's landlord. Paul DeRuyter is also a third partner in the Michael Shay's development.

   All these pieces together create a problem.

   You cannot vote on any issue or any project where the other person could gain f rom your vote or your involvement. It is the basis of the ethic rules.

   If Gloria and/or eric vote in such a way to help--in any way--for this project to go forward, it is wrong and more than that: it is illegal.
3:40 pm edt 

Re: Mark Hatch

"It'll still be sitting up the front of the room long after you're dead. Thanks for the attention though!
Love and kisses,

Mark Hatch
"


What a disgusting person.
3:18 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay's

Gloria happens to live in the Michael Shay developer's apartment.  Big deal. It's a small town. Gloria is professional and knows the town by-laws probably better than David Gardner in reference to development. She is a huge asset . 
3:16 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay's

Maybe There's a reason that Paul DeRuyter is Not the Point Person on the Michael Shay Development
He sends in Bruce MacGregor, if that is his name, but he does not show up. but yet he is a principle in this town development where the town is pretty upset. but he should be there at any table taking questions, remarks and the anger that is plainly there in this town.

But then we would see some connection between Yingling and McPherson which would be more than embarrassing. would they act as if they don't know him? would they act as if he is not the one who rented them his second floor apartment? It would be messy, don't you think?
3:12 pm edt 

To Erik & Gloria - Michael Shay's

Recuse Yourself! Keep Away from this 24 unit condominium!

What are you thinking. I like both of you but if what I hear is true: what are you thinking? You can't be engaged in any project that might imply favoritism or imply undue pressure or even the appearance of political pressure.

Gus, this is a nightmare. Get out while you can.
3:09 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shays Condoplex

Eriks landlord is Mr . Macgregor. It would be nice to leave Mr. D out of this
3:03 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay Development-Huggins and Witten, LLC Letter

My concern is with the 1.5% threshold having been met- this is wonderful news for the town. My understanding is that Gloria and Eric's landlord is DeRuyter, NOT Macgregor. I would hate to lose focus on the achievement of 1.5% and educating the BOS as to what that means for 40B's.

We could have 100% affordable rentals at 350 Bradford. !00% year round rentals that fit in with the neighborhood's architecture and density.
3:00 pm edt 

Re:Michael Shays

I'm a little confused now. At the BOS Erik Yingling said he is a tenant of one of the developers. Is his landlord Mr. Macgregor or Mr. Deryuter? Or do they co-own the building. Mr. Deryuter has said he is not connected with this project. Just want all the players listed correctly.
2:19 pm edt 

Real Estate Taxes

Today the Real Estate Taxes are due and the Tax Collector's office closes at 11:30. One would think that they would have extended the hours to accommodate the Tax Payers.
2:18 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay Development-Huggins and Witten, LLC Letter

"FinCom should weigh in on this issue of 40B, relative to both the 10%  and 1.5% Threhold of 40B.
This could be a god sent if limits could be placed on condo development under 40B."



Please tell us under what authority the FinCom can get involved.  This has nothing to do with money articles before town meeting and nothing to do with the reserve fund, so why get involved.
2:15 pm edt 

Re: Jaran vs Provincetown

"He wasn't a cop. He was the Chief. And he let you know it every time he walked into a room."


Guess he's not a chief of anything anymore, is he?
2:13 pm edt 

Re: Michael Shay's

Possible Ethics Violation

So if what a few previous posts have written is true then why are these town officials participating in discussion etc. on this proposed project. Has no one told them they could not get involved. Maybe they checked with State ethics and was told they could participate.
2:10 pm edt 


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