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Wednesday, April 30, 2014

Provincetiwn Public Library

Maghi,

By all means bring your bottle of champagne.
As flattered as I was by your clumsy proposition, and as much as I've enjoyed
the three years of ceaseless harassment, libel and slander you've provided since
my refusal, I've decided to move on.
Perhaps you should too.

Cheryl

Oh, and I especially enjoyed driving by your shop recently and having you flip
me off.  I so enjoy a friendly gesture!
3:41 pm edt 

From: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate


I have to laugh when people bring up my past, I have to ask what past that I
saved a litter of coyotes four of which went on to help in a Massachusetts study
on that species. These are the same people that want us to forget Mr. Anthony's
very recent and extremely sorted past. Well let me tell Mr. Anthony and all his
so called supporters. Whether or not a candidate can be trusted to tell the
truth and not betray his fellow man or women is a tremendous attribute for
Selectman like it or not. So you pretend to stick to the issues and misrepresent
the truth and I will stick to the TRUTH and SERVE the people and we shall see
who is victorious at the end!

NO DEBATE NO TRUST!!!
2:09 pm edt 

From: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

I believe it was Mr. Mendes that brought the issue of the VFW forward I was
just bringing attention on how he misrepresented the truth on that Post. I don,t
believe I mentioned  anything about what questions would be asked at the debate
I am still challenging Mr. Anthony to. As I stated several times before in this
challenge all questions would be welcome. Stop making excuses and lets get to
it, two Candidates one debate and a whole lot of questions. After all we both
have to be prepared for public scrutiny what better way than to do it than this.

  WAS IT NOT Mr. ANTHONY AT CANDIDATES NIGHT THAT KEEP REPEATING THE PHRASE
TRANSPARENCY!
2:00 pm edt 

To: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Wayne what happened to your meet and greet that you said was happening
on your lovely interview on TV.   Another             
12:30 pm edt 

Re: Update on Sign Permit

This is an election issue? Really Wayne Martin? This is what you're focusing on
in regards to town issues, a sign permit? Obvously you have nothing to offer the
voters of the town if this is the nonsense you're focusing on. If elected, I
can't imagine what petty minute issues you'll bring to the table. What have we
sunk to in this town if this is one of the choices we have in this election at a
time wjhen true leadership is needed? This can't be a good sign for the future
of this town. I may have to hold my nose and vote for Anthony but at least I
know I'm not voting for Martin.
12:24 pm edt 

From: Dieter Groll - Posted in the Provincetown/Truro Lighthouse

In another thread, Steven Lyons asked the question, "Why is it important to Hoort to be on [the Charter Enforcement Commission (CEC)]; and why is it important that he not be on that committee?.... I simply don't know enough about the committee and why being on it matters so much ... or doesnt. "

I'll attempt to answer that excellent question, because it's an important one. I'll apologize in advance for the length of this post -- if this bores anyone, simply ignore the thread, or better yet, see the answer live at the CHARTER ENFORCEMENT COMMISSION HEARING, TODAY, WEDNESDAY APRIL 30, AT 5 PM.

A little-known bit of history will help to set the stage to answer the fist part of the question. Last year, during Dan Hoort's pseudo-complaint ("publicity stunt"), he first sought to initiate a Charter complaint with the CEC against the Personnel Board. He felt that public comments that were made during a Personnel Board meeting by former federal judge Maria Lopez against the Police Chief and the Town Manager somehow violated the Charter.

Hoort's objective was stymied by the Charter itself, because the CEC does not have oversight authority against the Personnel Board. Only then did he claim "discrimination" by the Personnel Board. Clearly, this man understands *neither* discrimination nor the Charter.

During that effort, however, Hoort learned that the CEC *does* have a degree of oversight over his nemesis, the FinComm. They *also* have a degree of oversight over his boss' bosses, (the BoS), and *also* over the Moderator, who appointed those pesky members of the FinComm. Since Dan has personal vendettas against one or more members of *each* of these entities, one can readily see why he is interested in the CEC.

Hoort mistakenly believes that he can gain oversight over *each* of those that have oversight of his domain. He even went so far as to say that he would have no "conflict of interest" if he were to act against the FinComm or Board of Selectmen, or against individual members of those boards. His partner, I'm sure, holds the same mistaken belief.

I'm not a lawyer, but this attempt to "oversee his overseers", as best as I can tell, violates the fundamental legal doctrines of "incompatibility of offices", and, to a degree, "separation of powers". Both of these doctrines are *so* important that they are each written into both the U.S. and Massachusetts Constitutions. Violations of these doctrines are fundamental elements of "public corruption".

Let's take a step back, to better understand the purpose of a charter, and of our Charter Enforcement Commission. Under state law, the charter forms the basis of a town's "Home Rule Authority", for those towns (like ours) that have elected to be governed in such a manner. In this mode of government, the town's individual charter is actually adopted by the state legislature, and is therefore itself enforceable as state law. It is the basis from which all other authority and powers are granted unto a town's local government.

Whenever the provisions of a town's charter differs from other provisions of state law, the language of the charter prevails. The home rule charter, therefore, is of the utmost importance to local governments like ours.

While the CEC has in recent years received little attention locally, it is an unusually powerful board, and it is somewhat unique, even amongst other home rule towns across the state. In fact, our Town Clerk informs me that he occasionally fields calls from other towns that are contemplating the creation of such a commission.

The CEC is charged with ensuring that the provisions of the Charter are adhered to. It is the "authority" to which *certain* complaints must be addressed (more on that in a moment). In such situations, it is uniquely authorized to independently hire counsel, and may even file suit in Superior Court against the Town itself, if need be, in order to compel compliance with the provisions of the Charter.

That scope of authority is limited, however -- in my opinion, somewhat arbitrarily so -- only to handle complaints against the Town Manager, the Acting Town Manager, the Moderator, the Board of Selectmen, the Finance Committee, the School Committee, or individual members of those three boards. (This is why my complaint names the Acting Town Manager, and not Hoort himself, even though the end result is the same).

One other "power" of the CEC is to influence changes to the Charter itself. Just as FinComm advises Town Meeting on financial articles, the CEC does the same on proposed changes to the Charter. The Charter Review Committee -- which is currently working on revisions to the Charter for the first time in two decades -- is actually an ad hoc subcommittee of the CEC.

Clearly, the Charter Enforcement Commission is much more important than what little attention it has received in years past. That is why we elect its members.

If Mr. Hoort doesn't even understand how to read and interpret our Charter, do you think he should be allowed to corrupt the purpose of this Commission to satisfy his own ego? Or should the Acting Town Manager do what is necessary to uphold the Charter? Discuss below, but more importantly, make sure your opinion is heard TODAY at 5 PM.
12:22 pm edt 

BoS Candidates

We need a selectmen that can spell correctly  speak correctly and is
honest.   So far don't see that in martin or Anthony.
11:55 am edt 

Provincetown Public Library

Please tell me the rumors are true. And that I can open a bottle of
champagne on the steps of my beloved library.

Maghi
11:54 am edt 

Update on Sign Permit

Today April 30 2014 after reading Anthony's post on MY PACC I had someone
check to see if there now was a permit for Anthony's signs down the Town Hall as
he claimed and miraculously one appeared.
  That should really make the people of this town think about what goes on at
the Town Hall. Here are the uncontested  facts, on 4 different occasions I
either called or went to the Town Hall in person and specifically asked them if
Anthony filled out an application for a sign permit from the only people that
issue these permits.
   On those same 4 occasions I was told he did not! Not that they remembered him
coming down, asking for a form, filling it out, turning it back in and they did
not know what happened to it. I was told he did not apply for one at all! After
all there were only four of us who needed these permits and his is a face that
one does not tend to forget easily. Now after he is called out on it he goes
down there and POOF one appears.
   You make up your own minds, was I lied to by perhaps lazy and inept employees
of this town who had nothing to gain from it or did Anthony call in a favor from
one of his supporters that work there and allowed him to turn in a back dated
application.

  YET ANOTHER REASON FOR HIM NOT TO BE ELECTED!!!
11:52 am edt 

Re: Townies

"Grow up people or better yet move to a big city. And get out of this town ,you
call yourselves townies but you have no idea what it's like in the real-world.
You are so afraid to leave this town."



It is not the "townies" that are looking for the free hand out.  Most have jobs
and work all year.  It was the "wash-a-shores" that came to town with very
little to offer, but are always looking for a hand out.  Let's subsidize their
housing, get them unemployment for half the year (while they are off on winter
vacation), feed them at the soup kitchen and come up with all kinds of creative
ways to supplement their life styles.  Many of us have become enablers.  When
someone actually thinks it is appropriate that they post that their attendance
at the soup kitchen is their form of socialization.  Many year rounders need a
reality check.  The free ride needs to end soon or we will just become the town
known to subsidize lazy people.  Come on down if you don't want to work for half
the year and still be able to maintain your lifestyle.  Look around the soup
kitchen... how many people "NEED" to be there?
11:49 am edt 

The Upcoming Election

I was thinking of voting for Mr. Anthony because the only thing I knew of Mr.
Martin was the incident with the coyote.  I will admit after watching his video
interacting with this animal on You Tube under Truro Vixen, what I was lead to
believe was not the case at all. The matter of his firearms again did not bother
me my husband was an outdoor enthusiast who kept several riffles, shotguns and
pistols in our home which now belong to our children. I suspect my husband would
have gotten along well with Mr. Martin if he was still with us. Dose Mr. Martin
know what became of this animal if so will he please post it.

After recent posts and Mr. Martins calling out of Mr. Anthony I am thinking of
changing my vote and would encourage the public to the same.  If Mr. Anthony is
not willing to answer difficult questions and face public scrutiny truly what
kind of leader would he be?

11:47 am edt 

Truth be Told

I never understood why realtors were appointed to serve on regulatory
boards! That was the beginning of the end for the damage that has been done to
this Town! Stop blaming others for selling out! take responsibility for what you
created here! You found "the goose that was laying golden eggs!" you've made
your millions at the expense of others ! It's legitimate because you were in a
regulatory position to manipulate the system and did! you have financial skills
but no conscience for the community you claim to love!
11:45 am edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Wayne you are doing real good,  misspellings , typos, yea you look
like a rock star.  Keep it up.
11:43 am edt 

Questions for Wayne

Most of what you mention has nothing at all to do with the election and issues
facing Provincetown. The VFW matter is closed as it has been for quite some
time. It can't be revisited. Again, other than the VFW, what do you have for
questions for Anthony that regard Provincetown? If you want to get into opening
old wounds and putting blurred questions/answers into peoples minds prior to the
vote on topics that have nothing to do with the town, your list is quite
extensive and I doubt you'd be elected street line inspector in the aftermath. I
have a number of questions that i would love to post in here(and have tried) but
the webmaster has disallowed them. Regardless, you don't have my vote. Not
enough experience, not enough hard facts, not enough true direction as opposed
to "I'm willing to learn" and your public past does you no service.

ANDREWS, ANTHONY, RICHTER FOR SELECTMAN
11:40 am edt 

Re: Signs Signs Signs

LIES LIES EVERYWHERE THERE'S LIES


I would like to know who Anthony got his permit from and what date is on the
permit. The reason i ask is as soon as I saw his sign at Ptown house of pizza I
went to the Town Hall an inquired about the sign permit and talked to both Aaron
and Marjorie and they both said he did not get one and they have not seen him
but they did have permits for the other 3 candidates. Then again I called about
a week later and got the same answer. Candidates night I went there in person
again to ask if he had gotten one and again no one could produce one or even say
he had tried to get one. Now just the other day when I posted SIGNS SIGNS
EVERYWHERE THERE'S SIGNS I called and spoke to Marjorie once again and I got the
same answer.

Does he really expect us to believe that the honest, hard working, and
intelligent people of that department either decided to lie to the public about
a simple sign permit. Or is he saying they are totally inept at there jobs with
such bad memories that they not only missed placed Anthony's permit but had NO
recollection of him even being there.

Lets face it he got caught and instead of being a man and admitting to it he
just threw two valued town employees under the bus nice guy huh!

I HAVE SAID IT BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN SELECTMEN MATERIAL I DON'T THINK
SO.
11:15 am edt 

Wayne, You're Doing Fine

Just keep on going. You are in the race and you do have support. Do not let them
put you down. You are a good man and deserve to run and get our votes.
12:23 am edt 

From: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Yes Anthony will have to answer hard questions but what you seem to be forgetting
is that I am putting myself out there too. This is a perfect venue to
put every bodies mind at ease and see who is the better man
12:20 am edt 

From: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Concerning the VFW matter, I was there with 6 long time VFW members as well as a
few others when they were interviewed by the Banner. The banner refused to print
most of what was said that day which did a great dis-service to the Post  I have
spent more time at that Post since I was 8 years old than Anthony and Mendes
combined several times over. I am in possession of copies of the letters  that 4
employees of that post wrote stating the illegal acts they witnessed Anthony
committing. No he did not do it alone he did have a few accomplices DO NOT tell
me what happened I was there my friend.

Now let me put this as plain as I possibly can Martin vs Anthony for a wide
open, no holds barred, all questions welcome debate before the election he can
name the time and place!

Is that clear enough for you? or am I still coming across as an illiterate?

   ONLY A PERSON WITH SOMETHING TO HIDE WOULD NOT ACCEPT
12:17 am edt 

What Does This Portend?

Artist's work left unfinished after police halt tagging of private
property

The news account in The Banner made me wonder, is Jeff Jaran back?

Just saying ...
12:14 am edt 

Re: Catherine Russo

At least Catherine Russo signed her name...How about arguing with her
ideas instead of attacking the messenger?  Grow up
12:10 am edt 

Re: Luxury Condos

"we have created 376 private condo units already....we do not need to
use our public buildings to create more luxury condos"....


Mike Carnizales, Finance Committee Chairman, April 28, 2014
12:08 am edt 

Provincetown Banner - Letter to the EditorMonday, April 28, 2014

(editor@provincetownbanner.com)
Subject: Provincetown Needs Rentals

Dear Editor,
Well folks, the vote this Monday night by the Board of Selectmen to sell the
Grace Gouveia Building for condos, not for rental housing, was sad.
The sale was a legacy of the former Town Manager and Chief of Police with no
restraint from the Board of Selectmen. The reasoning was to sell the Grace
Gouveia and the Community Center and build the expensive Police Station across
the highway with the proceeds.
The outgoing Board, Austin Knight, Elaine Anderson, David McChesney, Erik
Yingling and Tom Dunigan felt bound by that vote to sell at a Town Meeting a few
years ago.

The new Board wont sell the Community Center and well have to work on making it
a rental apartment house for year rounders.
I know its mean of me but I hope the buyer has trouble and cant raise the money
to buy and renovate the Grace Gouveia and the deal falls through.

Everyone I spoke to felt that we had more than enough condos and need rentals.
So lets do it! Its cheap to borrow money now. We own a big property. If we
mortgage it or perhaps issue Municipal Bonds that pay 2% we could raise the
money right here in Town. Rentals, even at the low end, would bring in $200,000
a year. That would pay off all interest and principal in 20 years. We would then
own the building and the income could be used as the Town wanted. It could
always be sold. We will decide.

A New Day is coming to Provincetown. A brand new Board of Selectmen, new Chiefs
at the DPW, Water and Police too. Lets build year round rentals to bring the
middle class back to Provincetown, they work here anyway.

Best,

Barbara Rushmore
508-487-1789
12:06 am edt 

Re: Collusion and Corruption

"You've got to be kidding right? Richter is related to Yingling and
and Danagan and Yingling are inseparable. Just look around they are everywhere
together.Yep,were really cleaning up the town alright. It took me years to build
on my
property yet a developer comes in and builds everywhere. What the hell is going
on at west vine street. How were those monstrosities allowed to be built on that
corner?where were the public officials and inspectors for those.REALLY!"



YOU have got to be kidding, right?  I would prefer that relatives are not
serving on boards together, but that does not mean that it is wrong.  We should
evaluate the situation, not dismiss it out of hand.  What is wrong with two
members becoming friends? Does it mean that they can't do the job?  Of course
not.  Look at every organization in the world.  There are people who become
friends.

Are you blaming Yingling( a publicity hound) and Donegan (totally arrogant and
thinking that he is still the big deal at AOL) for West Vine?  They had nothing
to do with it?  Did you attend any of the hearings on the project?  Were the
projects approved according to our laws?  If not then call the AGs office.  Get
the press involved.  But, for god's sake, stop with the collusion, corruption
and conniving cabal crap.
12:00 am edt 

Tuesday, April 29, 2014

Re: Equality

Re: "Despite what some think we are not all created equal.
Some are smarter.  Some are more athletic.  Some are competitive..."


And some are greedy. Like you, perchance?
11:56 pm edt 

Affordable Housing Fatigue

It is unfortunate that being overbearing regarding affordable housing and the
non-stop discourse is creating fatigue in the community
11:54 pm edt 

Re: Equality

I disagree with the poster that said we're not created equal! We are
all created equal with free will! that's what makes us unequal ,it depends on
how we exercise  our free will!!
11:52 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

Isn't it a shame? Even a deal regarding the sale of buildings that was mandated
at town meeting and that was voted to pass has brought the affordable housing
people out in attack mode.

What a sad state of affairs.
11:51 pm edt 

BoS Candidates

Someone asked me who I was favoring for BOS.  I told them it really
didn't matter to me.  I don't see anyone that stands out and don't think anyone
is going to be able to address town issues.
11:49 pm edt 

From: Bobby Anthony Candidate for BOS

RE: SIGNS SIGNS  EVERYWHERE THE'RE SIGNS

I did take out a temporary sign permit, so I checked with town hall and they had
misplaced it. Yes, I do follow the laws that govern our town. I think we all
should focus on the issues that our town faces.
11:48 pm edt 

Re: Catherine Russo

"..it's immoral and unethical..."


When will she figure out that we have enough housing, just no way for the new
residents to support themselves except to take advantage of all social services
available.  Enough with the housing for the under privileged.  Some may feel it
is "immoral and unethical" to get more people to move to this town and have
nothing to offer them but a hand out.
11:47 pm edt 

Learn From History

When the Pilgrims first landed in Provincetown, they must have loved the natural
beauty of the place.  What a wonder it must have been back then before the
native forests were denuded and the beaches were spoiled by development.  When
they found they couldnt make it here, what did the pilgrims do?  Did they cry
about their God given right to live here in spite of the reality of the
situation?   Did they demand free wigwams, water and food from the natives?   No
they got back in their ship and sailed across the bay to Plymouth where they
could eke out a meager existence.

The subsidized housing crowd could take a lesson from the pilgrims.  You can
face reality and find a place to live where housing is affordable and you can
find year round employment or you can continue tilting at windmills until you
have no strength left and finally realize the battle was lost long ago.   It was
lost when the fishing industry died.  It was lost when our political leaders did
not seek ways to replace the dying fishing industry.   It was lost when the
townies sold their properties to the highest bidder in order to follow in the
way of the pilgrims.  It was lost.
11:45 pm edt 

Provincetown Art Commission

 

The duties of the Art Commission is spelled out clearly in the Mass.
General Laws. having been on the Art Commission a long time myself as well
as,simultaneously,but not conflicting,on the Arts Lottery Council,(now the
Cultural Council).Having said that,the Art Commission,as well as the Police
dept. records should have a master list of all town owned art works in all town
owned buildings as well as insurance amounts on each piece. There was. Political
snag on pieces on loan,so it was voted then not to accept "on loan" work. Art
Commissions & museums have autonomy & can do accession work! When people
donated work to theTown they assumed it to be held for all perpetuity! Not
Necessarily! When Dr. EmiLy Farnham called me to help her select several of her
pcs. To donate to the Town,I readily advised her that I couldn't act
independently! It would take a by all the Art Comm. members to approve! She
wanted assurance that it would always stay in the Town Collection! the !
only advice I suggested,if they were to be deaccessioned she might want to
consider a proviso that stated legally,if that were to ever occur she wanted her
work returned to her estate! I don't know if she chose that because I went off
the Bd. before she donated! I do remember 3 pcs disappearing! One found hidden
much later,one never came back, & one on the Auction block at
Sotheby's,Parke,Bernet in N.Y. that did return! We had no budget for security
hangers! Our budget was $ 500.00 yr. & one restoration was $ 5,000.00! Took
yrs. to pay! Voting emphasis was not on town art work! there also were a lot of
pieces donated from local well known & area artists whose work hung in
Barnstable County Hospital. In Pocassett ( now defunct) that were missing! Not
in Town Art Commission purview, Some cam back to county after investigation,some
didn't! George Bryant & me always wondered who's houses they were in! That was a
county issue but Geoge & I went to that hospital. & always looke!
d at them hanging! I can't address what happened to the murals that a
re missing now or what procedures of responsibility are now either but I hope
they reappear or the situation is resolved to satisfaction!

Rachel White

11:28 pm edt 

To: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

 

Mr. Martin, you come across as illiterate in many of your posts. Take
some time, re-read your post before you publish it and see if it makes sense.

6:11 pm edt 

To: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

 

Re:From : Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Again, you didn't answer the question as to why Mr. Anthony should have a one on
one debate with you only. I agree that Raf should be there but that doesn't mean
there is nothing to debate him on. Fact is, as I posted, the VFW issues are what
your after and a debate will simply give you and your disgruntled cohort vet
friend a podium to expose what YOU think are injustices done there, no doubt
thinking it was all Mr. Anthonys fault. I've seen you discuss matters with
others and when you start to lose the argument, you go off on tangents only
designed to damage the other person, not elevate yourself. And phoning you is
out of the question. That's why the voting system of this great nation is secret
ballot, so people like you won't have the opportunity to retaliate for having a
different opinion, as is seen here with the anonymity of this site.

6:07 pm edt 

Re: Collusion

"This is what is considered collusion, when behind the scenes the greedy figure out

how to get around regulations to take advantage of what the town is trying to accomplish."

 

Since when is it wrong to follow the rules and regulations?  My guess is that

since you don't like the rules and regulations, that anyone that abides by them

is greedy and immoral and unethical. The developer either obeyed the rules or

not.  If the rules are not clear and allow for interpretation, then blame the

folks that made the rules not the people who must live with them. From what I

have been able to learn here, anyone who has more than you have is greedy. 

Anyone that has managed to make enough to live comfortably by working hard and

being a good citizen is greedy. Sorry, but it has been clearly demonstrated that

Marxism does not work since it ignores human nature's built in desire to get be

rewarded for effort.  Despite what some think we are not all created equal. 

Some are smarter.  Some are more athletic.  Some are competitive.  Some have

longevity genes.  Some die young.  Some are strong. Some are weak. Some are

givers. Some are takers. Some are artistic.  Some are not. Some can play music,

some cannot. We all to be aware of our fellow citizen's needs, but that does not mean

that to each according to need and from each according to ability so that all live in the same economic stratus    

1:01 pm edt 

New BoS

You've got to be kidding right? Richter is related to Yingling and and Danagan
and Yingling are inseparable. Just look around they are everywhere together.Yep,
were really cleaning up the town alright. It took me years to build on my
property yet a developer comes in and builds everywhere. What the hell is going
on at west vine street. How were those monstrosities allowed to be built on that
corner?where were the public officials and inspectors for those.REALLY!
11:08 am edt 

Voters Win

 

THE VOTERS WON WITH THE SALE OF THE Grace G. building

Yes, the will of town meeting won out over the housing proponents who want every
asset of the town sold or given over to subsidize people who want to live here
and expect the rest of us to support them.

No one paid for the housing of my employees. No one helped me by paying part of
my mortgage. Thank goodness the selectmen sold the G. Grace building..and they
sell more town owned property and get it on the tax rolls.

11:05 am edt 

Town Meeting's Will Carried Out

Town meeting has voted to sell these town buildings. The Finance committee and 

the Housing group clamoring to stop the sale and trying to force the board of
selectmen to go against the wishes of the town was all for naught.

Again, the spot light is on the group that feels that they are entitled to use
any all town resources for their particular venue.

Subsidizing people so that they can live here working six months of the year and
yet expecting the town to support them in their deliberate choice to live in a
town with only a summer economy must come to a halt.

At least the wishes of town meeting are upheld by our elected officials no
matter how much our finance committee huffs and puffs and tries to run the town.

11:03 am edt 

Re: Catherine Russo

 

"..it's immoral and unethical..."

Who the hell is Catherine Russo to think she is the arbiter of morals and
ethics. Good grief! Get off your high horse...it's immoral and unethical..."

 

10:55 am edt 

Re: Townies

 

"Grow up people or better yet move to a big city. And get out of this town ,you call yourselves townies but you have no idea what it's like in the realworld. You are so afraid to leave this town."

To the person who wrote the above. I graduated from PHS, went to a university in Boston worked in a big city and retired here. So please do not make generalization about native PTowners! A native and proud of it!  

10:50 am edt 

Re: Wayne Martin

 

So you want martin to answer your questions, but first tell us why you asked most of these questions about him. Most have no bearing on how he would serve. I, for one, don't understand why he needs even a single gun ,or wants to keep a coyote, but will those things really matter. He is not your everyday person, but this is Ptown after all.

10:34 am edt 

SIGNS SIGNS  EVERYWHERE THE'RE SIGNS

Can someone please answer this question for me. If you are a resident of this
town and especially if you are running for the BoS, should you not follow the
laws set forth by our town government? and if so why did three out of the four
BoS candidates have to get SIGN PERMITS but Anthony did not. It comes as no
surprise to me, after checking with the licensing dept as of April 28 2014
approximately 2:30 pm Anthony has failed to follow the laws that govern our town
an acquire a permit. If he cant follow a simply town bylaw do we really trust
him to help run our town and follow the rules while doing so.

I THINK NOT!!!
12:15 am edt 

New BoS

"Looking forward to three new selectmen, new members of the Library
Board of Trustees and some sense of order and respect restored to the process of
government in town!"


Oh really? Does that include YOU getting involved? Or would you rather sit back
in your Lazy Boy, commanding and then critizing the hell out of anyone who dares
volunteer?  I think I know the answer. Pah!
12:00 am edt 

Monday, April 28, 2014

Questions

Are you serious is Candidate Martin really suppose to answer questions that he
has not been asked that have not even been posted. If you don't want to go on
Face Book or any other Social Media that's your hang up sweet heart. He has
given his number on this site a hundred times do you have a problem with the
phone too.

  You might wanna just sit this one out and let the grownups handle it. Are you
even a registered voter probably not just have another drink or whatever and
relax.

I THOUGHT I HEARD IT ALL OH BROTHER!!!
11:47 pm edt 

From : Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Why don't I ask Mr. Richter to have a debate. The answer is very simple, with
three of us running for only two seats and in my opinion Mr. Richter should
absolutely fill one of them. Well that just leaves the two of us doesn'it. If I
am not as well suited for the job as Mr. Anthony, I should think he would have
no reservations with a wide open debate. I shall once again answer the question
about me constructing my own blogs its YES!!! sitting at the supper table on my
own little laptop.

FOR ANY NEW QUESTIONS CALL 508 237 3486
11:44 pm edt 

Re: BoS Candidates

You're right, not a great board to be but at least we have a chance to pick
which ones we want out of the bad lot.
Wayne mentions he has answered all the questions. Lets face it, all the
questions and connections that have been sent to this blog haven't been posted
so I would think it impossible for Wayne to answer ALL of the questions
surrounding his candidacy. Ask on facebook? I don't have a facebook account and
won't open one for his sake. I know I can't vote for Martin, no way, no how. And
the fear of Anthonys so called connections to the police department are long
gone. None of the members are connected to him after 15 years or so of being
removed from the position. He knows about police issues and I would think that
would have helped in the past couple of years in regards to the problems that
occured.
I find it interesting also that Wayne won't open a dialog with/against Raf
Richter. he's as much a contender for a seat that Wayne is striving for as
Anthony so why only a call out to Anthony? I already know the answer and it all
revolves aroundthe VFW issues. Educate yourselves.
12:31 pm edt 

Collusion and Corruption

Look no further than the luxury condos built opposite
Victor's Restaurant.  Perhaps nothing illegal happened,
but it is cetainly immoral and unethical.  This is what is
considered collusion, when behind the scenes the greedy
figure out how to get around regulations to take advantage
of what the town is trying to accomplish.  We have recognized and named for over
the decade that we need community housing and that there is little land left to
accomplish this.  How did this project get approved without any affordable
housing.

Get rid of the building commissioner and the present zoning board and follow the
will of the Local Comprehensive Plan.
I feel that Wayne Martin would stand up against this. I am not
sure Bobby Anthony would. There are examples of this type of collusion all over
town. If you don't see it, your blind or
don't care to see it.

Catherine Russo
12:28 pm edt 

Re: Past Postings

Very often people posting responses to former posts do not read the
entire post and miss what is being said.
12:13 pm edt 

Soup Kitchen Staff

"Why don't we read of complaints by the people who do all the work at the
kitchen?"



I am a past volunteer and served and did set up for one season.  I would never
go back!  The majority of the people who came were people who could well afford
a meal.  There was very little money put in for donations.  Our "guests" were
just there to socialize and hang out.  That would not have been so bad if they
made a donation to cover their meal.  We even had town employees come over for
the lunch breaks.  Go to a restaurant and buy a lunch if you can afford it. 
Bring a bag lunch if you are trying to economize. There is no excuse for so many
"locals" to be a free loaders if you have the means to take care of yourself. 
These social services are meant for the residents who actually need them.
12:03 pm edt 

Re: Art Commission

The Art Commission Should Investigate

We do need answers and they seem to be the committee in town government that is
directly involved with the town's art collection. When some piece of art goes
missing, they should know and should help investigate where it has gone and the
details involved in the theft. It seems they should be the committee to request
a police investigation as well. Stolen art is stolen art and they are the
protectors of our artistic legacy.
11:29 am edt 

New Town Government

Looking forward to three new selectmen, new members of the Library
Board of Trustees and some sense of order and respect restored to the process of
government in town!
11:23 am edt 

Re: BoS Candidates

I saw Catherine Russo's interview with Wayne Martin. I am surprised
that she got such a positive impression from him. He said absolutely nothing of
any substance just a very general "people can't afford more taxes" and such. Mr
Anthony is equally unimpressive to me. The town is not facing a good BOS.
11:21 am edt 

Re: Second Homeowners Group

"The Second Homeowners group has changed its membership meeting to
secret. All elections and discussion will be behind closed doors with a
membership list approved in advance."



As I understand it, this is their annual meeting, with board election.  Like
every other local association (e.g. Monument, PAAM), annual meeting attendance
is limited to dues-paying members. Anyone who is a part-time resident taxpayer
and who pays the $25 dues can attend.

They have a website that shows how to pay dues, their upcoming meetings, bylaws,
etc.:

http://www.pprta.org/

Nothing nefarious; but not surprised someone came on here and implied such. 
Imagine, you have to be a dues-paying member of the Monument or PAAM to vote for
their boards -  must be a conspiracy!
11:20 am edt 

Re: BoS Candidates

"He convinced me that he is his own man, owned by no one else and will
fight the corruption and collusion that has hampered town government."


Here we are once again confronted by that too-often used buzz word,
"corruption". Exactly what do you mean?  Who, currently, is guilty of
"corruption and collusion" and what are the activities to which you refer? 
Martin may very well be the right guy for the job, but "fight the corruption and
collusion that has hampered town government."  Give us a rest from this
silliness unless you can be very explicit in your charges.
11:17 am edt 

Re: Art Commission

The current members of the Art Commission are Jim Bakker, John Dowd,
Peter Petas, Chris Busa and Donald Whitcomb.
10:31 am edt 

Small Town

It doesn't matter who runs for town election or who is the town
manager , chief police no one is ever happy in this town they will always find
something to bitch about,,,,,, this town is to small with a small town mentality
,   Grow up people or better yet move to a big city. And get out of this town ,
you call yourselves townies but you have no idea what it's like in the real
world.  You are so afraid to leave this town.    Grow up. I moved here to retire
and enjoy the quite time not to be back in high school
10:29 am edt 

The Real Wayne?

When I read  his comments on issues and then his comments like this: well my
friends I am signing off got to go pick up the little women from work  its been
nice chatting with y'all or. When he was talking about attending town meeting
and  bullshitting with someone outside the bathroom ( his words not mine) or
listening to him on PTV.

my question is

Is Wayne really writing his comments on town issues or is someone else
writing his material he is posting?

Just a thought
10:25 am edt 

To Wayne Martin

Questions for Mr Martin since I am not on FB

1,  What do you do for work?
2. When did you move back to Provincetown?
3, Why did you keep a coyote in a cage?
4. Why so many guns?
5. Why run now when you never be on a board and have from what I
know do not have any experience?
6. What are your top 3 goals ?
7. If you can even stick out 3 nights, how an you do 60 or more mtgs a year?
8.  What organizations in town have you volunteered to help?
9. What Current or firmer Board of Selectmen  have you spoken to about the
position?
10.                                                                                                        
Thanks
10:23 am edt 

Vote Andrews/Richter/Martin as Your New BoS

No one could possibly be a Police Chief in a town like Provincetown
for over 10 years, and not owe people and have preconceived prejudices, nobody.
We just came out of a bad period in our town's history where the Town Manager
was a former Chief of Police, and we all saw where that led.
Add to that, Former Chief Anthony's Realtor affiliation and you have a recipe
for disaster. He will finish the job of selling our town from under us.

I truly hope each of you that is voting in this race will vote for
Andrews/Richter/Martin. If you were at all aware, or have read the news, or been
to Stop and Shop, you know the difficulties we had in our town government over
this long period. We are finally moving forward, we really have a chance to
settle things down and move forward.

Electing Robert Anthony would be like hiring Sharon Lynn back into town
government. He will bring back many of the PROBLEMS we have recently erased. He
will bring cronyism in, he is supported by many of the same people who supported
the failed regime. Please consider this when deciding to vote.

Andrews/Richter/Martin will bring a young, diversified and local presence to the
Board. Experienced, independent and with no Real Estate or concentrated
knowledge of one area which will cloud judgement, as it has in the past.

This is a good opportunity to make a difference, let's not go back to the same
problems.

Vote ANDREWS/RICHTER/MARTIN as your new BOS members on Tuesday, May 6, 2014.
10:20 am edt 

BoS Candidates

I interviewed Mr. Anthony and Mr. Martin for my
PTV show. I knew very little about either one of them
before the interviews. I still know very little about
Mr. Anthony.  He had very few ideas and  was not at all
inspiring. 

I was surprised by Mr. Martin. He wasarticulate and knowledgeable.
His passion and concern forthis town came through.  He convinced me
that he is hisown man, owned by no one else and will fight the corruption
and collusion that has hampered town government.

I will vote for him.

Catherine Russo
10:16 am edt 

Soup Kitchen

The soup kitchen is not only for the less fortunate. As a previous post stated
it's also for those who wish to go to socialize with others because We have seen
the police there too.
10:12 am edt 

Martin Challenges Anthony

FROM BoS CANDIDATE WAYNE MARTIN

My life is an open book and Il welcome anyone to call me with questions or
concerns. I have put my number on many of the different blogs time and time
again. Many of my opponents  want to see our town continue down the dark path
it has been on for the past several years; grabbing what ever they can, never coming
out in the light of day.  Whenever the light is shined upon them they scramble into the
shadows and hide behind something or someone.

Every question that has been asked of me in interviews or on the social media I have
answered and answered honestly. If there are questions that someone has posted that
you think I have not addressed or not to your satisfaction, please feel free to call.

No I am not perfect, but let he who is without sin cast the first stone. In any case I look
forward to serving the people of our town for the next three years or as long as you would
have me.

I also think it would be a great opportunity for the  town if Mr. Anthony and I had
an open debate (one-on-one), where we discuss our individual concerns for the town.
Additionally, we could entertain public questions and answers. He can name the time and place.
This will afford the public an opportunity to judge which of the candidates is most
responsive to our current needs.

I am looking forward to your reply Mr. Anthony or the reply from who ever speaks for you.

PLEASE CALL WITH ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS 508 237 3486
10:10 am edt 

Sunday, April 27, 2014

Re: Provincetown Public Library

Missing art

I know Mr. Petas and Mr. Bakker but who is Mr. dow?
11:37 pm edt 

No Vote For Martin

After reading Wayne Martin's comments on the FB page
The Voice, there is no way I am voting for him.

First he couldn't be bother to go the three nights and admits to leaving
early

Second both Bobby and Cheryl where the all nights
Till the bitter end

Third in another post he said he had the pick up
the little lady.  Really Wayne this is shat you think
of women?

I am voting for Rafeal, Bobby and Chery!

This is from a NATIVE Provincetown Resident!!!
11:25 pm edt 

Re: Free Loaders

Re: "If so many people are exploiting the intention of the soup kitchen
to 'socialize,' which they are, why don't they put in a few dollars in the
donation jar each time they go? It's always mostly empty. And can we talk about
all those SUVS parked outside around lunchtime?"



For what it's worth, I drive an SUV (which I bought second hand) and am
frequently parked at outside the Methodist Church around lunchtime. However, I
have NEVER, not once, eaten a meal at the soup kitchen. I go to the church to
shop at the thrift store. Others go for AA meetings. And yes, many come to have
lunch and socialize. If you spent some time there yourself, you'd know that
these aren't simply lazy people who want a free meal and would rather "hang out"
than work. The people who eat lunch at the soup kitchen are the elderly, the
mentally challenged, and yes, the poor and unemployed. Some come from
surrounding towns for a hot meal because their towns don't have a soup kitchen.
I'm lucky in that I've always worked and supported myself year round but I have
friends who aren't so lucky. I'm not denying that there are people in town who
work the system and take advantage, I know plenty. But I think you're barking up
the wrong tree when you try to use the soup kitchen and !
it's patrons as an example of Provincetown laziness. Some people truly are down
on their luck and need the services the soup kitchen provides. If you don''t
believe such people exist here in Provincetown, you are more than a bit out of
touch.
11:20 pm edt 

Re: From a Realist

It was only a matter of time before the claims of bias and character
assasination against Wayne Martin was laid to blame at the feet of the police.
It was only a matter of time that the "open book" was wished to be closed. Much
like a Pandoras box, that "open book" was something that never should have been
opened but hey, you got into the race and thats the way politics go. Look what
was exposed of Austin Knight and Elaine Anderson. Look at the way the former TM
was treated in this forum. You want to join the political machine, get ready for
the negativity. Can't take it or don't like it? Get out now.
11:14 pm edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Wayne some Good Positions and Insights

thanks for the interview and for letting us how you feel about key issues. You
made some strong points and I am impressed. thanks you.
11:12 pm edt 

Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

I find it interesting that as soon as someone wonders where Bobby
"Kinky" Anthony has disappeared to, there he is again! Must be magic. BTW,
which, if any of the Town Meeting nights did he attend? And, who is writing his
posts; it is certainly NOT him. The Lord help us if he is elected. (By the way,
Clarence, Bobby Anthony's nickname when he was a kid was "Kinky". Anyone of his
generation who grew up here knows that. No sexual connotations implied!)
11:10 pm edt 

Re: The Missing Art at the library

A few years ago they crucified a DPW worker for taking a $10.00 part off of an
old truck that was going to br scrapped and they are not even going
To investigate the missing art or even call the police!!
11:07 pm edt 

From: Robert Anthony BoS Candidate

Dear Provincetown Citizen’s,

Your continued support, commitment and confidence has been the backbone of my campaign and adds energy to my passion to serve the people of Provincetown. Provincetown has now reached a crossroad where it must make changes to guarantee our future and the future of those who will follow us. With only a mere 9 days left until Election Day, May 6, 2014, I ask that you support my candidacy with your vote.
None of this important work will be possible without you.

If you give me your vote on May 6th, I will fight for:
• More transparency in town government
• Greater fiscal responsibility
• Ideas to foster a stronger year-round economy
• Initiatives to expand year-round rental housing
• A community based philosophy of government

With your help, I will work to restore confidence in town
government and to move Provincetown forward! Thank you again. I am grateful for your support.
Bobby Anthony
11:02 pm edt 

Soup Kitchen Staff

Why don't we read of complaints by the people who do all the work at the
kitchen?  I guess that it might be because those closest to the situation don't
have a problem that a few screamers here do.
10:57 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library - Missing Paintings

"why not have the Art Commission carry out part of the investigation?"


Maybe they know nothing about investigations. Maybe they don't really feel quite
as worked up about this as you do.  Maybe they are too busy investigating the
Gardner Museum job.  Maybe they are investigating what appears to be the
reappearance of the "green line" to the East End.  Maybe they are part of the
conspiracy.  So many possible corruption issues here.  Let's see, Sharon is
gone.  Carlson is still on the job.  Jaron is gone.  Austin is about to be
history.  What is next on the list.
10:55 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library - Missing Paintings

A very sad chapter in the history of the library, how can we give them
more money, support their efforts when they left the barn door unlocked so to
speak and then shrug their shoulders and say I don't know?

Trustees??????  Asleep at the wheel also.  I'll keep my check this year thanks
and give elsewhere.  Sure thing the Packard Gallery won't be hosting a gala
event this year either.
10:53 pm edt 

From a Realist

I must laugh when I read that Anthony devoted his life to public service. He
was hired by a town to do a job, got paid and is still getting paid well for it.
What has he done that he has not benefited from? Name one thing! would you like
to speak with some of the life time members of the VFW his last job he held.
Having a Real Estate license no more makes you a Realtor than being in a garage
makes you a car. I know for a fact Wayne Martin and one of his friends have
donated their time and labor to help out people that could not afford it. What
has he ever done to any of you to deserve this character assassination. Its all
a bunch of BS Because he makes complaints against the COPS haven't we had enough
of this? what will you come up with next I am sure your saving the best for
last. Well lets have it I know your all dying to shoot your mouths off, has any
of you tried talking to him? Remember in this town believe only half of what you
see and none of what you hear.                          
                                                                                                         
ANTHONY JUST WHAT WE NEED ANOTHER PUPPET!
10:52 pm edt 

From: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

I am trying to understand where people are coming up with this negative image of
me. I very rarely drink if at all, I don't go out to the bars and rip it up, I
have donated my time and labor as well as other friends or mine to help people
who could not afford it, brought food and cloths to the church and soup kitchen,
I don't go around back stabbing people, and I have not broken Mass State Lottery
laws, I have never stolen anything from the VFW or threaten to sue any member of
Post 3152 if I was to be fired. Gee I just cant figure out where this is all
coming from, oh well.

I GUESS DESPERATE NEEDS CALL FOR DESPERSTE MEASURES
10:46 pm edt 

Second Homeowner Hypocrisy

The Second Homeowners group has changed its membership meeting to secret. All
elections and discussion will be behind closed doors with a membership list
approved in advance. No Press allowed. To discourage leaks they will not have a
teleconferencing. Have they also banned cell phones in the meeting!?!
This is the group trying to get more access to Provincetown government? WOW.
Just WOW.
10:44 pm edt 

Currier

If he is for Martin, that's enough reason for me to support Anthony!
10:42 pm edt 

Provincetown Public Library - Missing Paintings

Point is the missing murals were not properly stored, therefore not
usable. And the artist himself has said his work wasn't very good.

But what the hell. What we have is another off with their heads moment in
Provincetown and that's all that really matters!
10:41 pm edt 

Provincetown Public Library - Missing Paintings

" Reading between the lines it sounds like they think the friends did
it and don't want to lose the money the friends give to the library."


Please tell us what were the lines lines between which you read?  Are you also a
fortune teller and read tea leaves?  How much money have the friends donated
last year?  Sounds like it was enough to cover up a major crime.
10:39 pm edt 

Re: Jobs vs Affordable Housing

"If we had year round jobs there would be no need for affordable
community housing."



You still don"t get it do you?? Repetition doesn't make it true.

There is little to no housing for people who have YEAR ROUND jobs in town! We
have lost 15% of our population in the last 10 years....
10:37 pm edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Wayne good for You

You spoke out and did well. You are intelligent and can take a stand for the
town and for town people. I look forward to you representing us soon.
10:35 pm edt 

Year Round Jobs

Re: If we had year round jobs

LOL,,,If we had a yellow brick road we could all go see the wizard too. It ain't
a year round town; hell our season is only 4 months long with little gravy on
each side. Get Real Sister!
10:34 pm edt 

Richter/Anthony/Andrews

He, Martain, has never been on a board or committee, has never worked
in agroup outside of politics and is well known to us by way of the papers and word
of mouth. Anthony, as he described, has a long history !
of public service and I know of nothing negative. It's a critical time for
Provincetown and this isn't the time for a newbie to get his feet wet as Martin
will do. Keep in mind, we get the government we deserve. Don't make a mistake in
this election that will last for three years.

VOTE RICHTER/ANTHONY/ANDREWS
10:31 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

I Agree: Ask Petas, Dow and Baker

Ask them where the murals are or where they were last known to be. they protect
and make decisions about the town's art collection. Now that something
significant is missing, let these members at least begin to investigate the
loss. Would they be as lackadaisical if the Hawthorn disappeared from town hall
walls? all the town's art is important and finding answers to this
disappearance--no matter who took it or who moved, if we are being kind--needs
to be answered.

and if the Friends of the Library allowed this, I don't care how much they
donate. they don't have the right to remove town owned art.
12:23 pm edt 

Jobs vs Affordable Housing

If we had year round jobs there would be no need for affordable
community housing. We should solve the employment problem or recognize it will
never exist and give up the idea of creating a welfare class.
12:20 pm edt 

Facebook Talk

So Vincent Currier sends out an email to a private group of close
confidants but it's not so private  because it was disseminated here (see
previous post asking to vote for Wayne Martin and Raph Richter). It's the talk
all over Facebook. LOL Vince!
12:16 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

The Murals are town Property and It should be Investigated

why not have the Art Commission carry out part of the investigation? It is their
responsibility to make certain all of town owned art is protected. this is town
owned and we should know where these murals went or where they are. the Art
commission can also make a police report for further investigation. Maybe those
on the commission can speak to this and what they plan on doing. that would be
helpful.
12:15 pm edt 

Re: See and Hear for You Self - Then Draw Your Conclusions

I did watch the video and I have drawn my own conclusions. If Myra Gold and
Catherine Russo are for Wayne Martin, I'm voting BOBBY ANTHONY. To know this guy
from off the camera, no way will I vote for him.
12:13 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

Rickety??

That shed is not pretty but it looks pretty solidly built to me.  I've never
heard a cinder block building with a steel door described as rickety.  I must
admit though, such colorful language makes for a better story.

The problem isn't where the murals were stored.  It's about who stole them. 
Nobody pried a board loose from a "rickety" shed to break in and steal them. 
Someone allowed to have a key took them. In other words, it was an inside job!
12:10 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

"Why isn't the librarian investigating the disappearance of the murals?"


Town employees are controlled by boards. If the board doesn't want to call the
police, the library can't go over their heads. Why don't you ask the board why
they won't investigate?  It's their responsibility. Reading between the lines it
sounds like they think the friends did it and don't want to lose the money the
friends give to the library.
Don't elect people to positions of power if your not going to make them do their
jobs.
12:08 pm edt 

Re: Free Loaders

If so many people are exploiting the intention of the soup kitchen to
'socialize,' which they are, why don't they put in a few dollars in the donation
jar each time they go? It's always mostly empty. And can we talk about all those
SUVS parked outside around lunchtime?
12:05 pm edt 

Wayne Martin - NOT for Provincetown

It was posted by someone in here that Martin has the intentions of those that
post in here. They claim they have been working behind the scenes to get him
elected and that Anthony is easy to be bought. What proof is there that he can
be bought? What proof is there that Martin has any insight to the tough problems
of the town? He told us he wants to elect a TM?? Elect a police chief?? He wants
to turn the VFW into a parking lot and remodel the police station? On the
surface, yes, sounds good but the in depth knowledge is what will kill those
ideas. As they say, the devil is in the details and he has no details. It was
mentioned also by the poster that Martin is only known by his public character.
Correct. What else do we have at this critical time to judge him by as a
candidate? He has never been on a board or committee, has never worked in a
group outside of politics and is well known to us by way of the papers and word
of mouth. Anthony, as he described, has a long history !
of public service and I know of nothing negative. It's a critical time for
Provincetown and this isn't the time for a newbie to get his feet wet as Martin
will do. Keep in mind, we get the government we deserve. Don't make a mistake in
this election that will last for three years.

VOTE RICHTER/ANTHONY/ANDREWS
12:03 pm edt 

Wayne Martin vs Robert Anthony

"This man would represent the real people of this town,"


And, I suppose that Mr. Anthony would represent the "unreal" people.  Good
gracious, would you get real.  Say what you mean.  "realpeople"!!  How silly.
11:47 am edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

FROM BOS CANDIDATE WAYNE MARTIN (VICTORS)

Although I did watch the meeting concerning this matter I really cant say I know
enough about it to tell you the way I would have voted. I am sure the BoS were
given info that they had to factor in to their decision that we were not privy
to. I always try to reserve judgment till I have all the facts.
11:43 am edt 

Candyland?

"...controlled by the cabal what reside in candiland."



The cabal defeated many times over...Candyland gone...just sheer memories of the
past.
11:38 am edt 

Affordable Housing vs Jobs

The theft from the "indians"

That's true for much of our country, but not here. There were no year-round
native settlements or villages here; they were smart enough not to make their
homes at a place where year-round "productive employment" (in their case
planting and hunting) wasn't possible.

And without good fishing there would never have been a European village here
either - remember the pilgrims looked around and went to Plymouth.

Only relatively recently do some apparently think year-round employment is an
optional facet of life,  The real problem here is lack of jobs, as others have
said.
11:21 am edt 

Provincetown Public Library

Why Isn't the Art Commission Involved in the Disappearance of the
Library Murals?

Time to ask Peter Petas, John Dowd, and Jim Bakker what they know and why they
don't know if they don't know. and what about the past art commissioners who
were in charge of all the town's art works. This is the group empowered with the
control and the verseeing of Provincetown's art collection.

So shouldn't they have an answer on the disappearance of the murals?
11:15 am edt 

Re: Free Loaders

"What a nasty person you must be."


Trust me you have no idea how ambitious I am you but you are definitly
presumptuous and pompous. What about my post makes you assume I even eat at the
soup kitchen or don't work? Who are you to be saying who should eat there and
who shouldn't? Disgusting that you would even name Freddy, but that allows me to
presume you're a townie since you did. Let me guess, you work in real-estate?
Next time you show a multi- million dollar home, look in the mirror on the way
out, greed will surely be reflected in your shallow image.
11:13 am edt 

Second Homeowners vs Free Loaders

I wish more second homeowners would make Provincetown their legal
residence. Having voting rights might help to silence these affordable housing
      .
11:10 am edt 

Saturday, April 26, 2014

Re: Provincetown Public Library - Missing Murals

The missing murals were stored in that rickety shed behind the
library. Ann Woods story said the friends of the library had the keys and
thought the murals took up too much space.  That's where I'd investigate.
I heard that building has black mold and is being condemned. Town art shouldn't
have been in a shack filled with black mold. That stuff is so toxic those
paintings would have had to be destroyed. Good luck to whoever has em!  They'll
have a nasty surprise!
10:03 pm edt 

See and Hear for You Self - Then Draw your Conclusions

I would like to personally ask readers to please take the time to
watch the PTV/Catherine Russo/Myra Gold interview with Wayne Martin. Until I met
Wayne, and spoke with him, I was influenced by the stories I read in the papers
and on these blogs. I have learned again that peoples lives can be destroyed by
poor reporting and government "officials". This man would represent the real
people of this town, and many would have you think he isn't capable. He is. He
cares about the town, and has a long history here. He isn't perfect, but he has
more potential to be honest and caring than his opponent, Mr. Robert Anthony.
Anthony has dodged every question of importance asked him to date. Wayne Martin
will answer and say if he doesn't know, he will find out. Please do yourselves a
favor and watch the interview.
Thank you.

http://vimeo.com/92958659
10:00 pm edt 

Re: Free Loaders

" 95% of you don't belong at a "soup kitchen", you belong at a
restaurant or eating at home to save money. Or how about actually working during
the day like normal people? Don't blame the second homeowners, look in the
mirror at the choices you've made. "



No matter what side of the debate you are on there seems to be no end to the
jerks here.  How do you know who belongs or doesn't?  You don't.  You are right
about not blaming the second homeowners, but pretty wrong about most everything
else. Who are you to judge?

Does anyone poster here ever care about constructive debate?  Can anyone ever
state an opinion and explain how it was derived?  Is bombast and hyperbole all
that you can use?
9:57 pm edt 

Provincetown Public Library

"Why hasn't the librarian asked for a formal police investigation?
This is beginning to look suspicious !"



What do you mean "beginning"?  Obviously the librarians are all puppets and are
controlled by the cabal what reside in candiland
9:55 pm edt 

Re: Free Loaders

"Yes, you did destroy the town, although you'll never know how deeply."


They certainly changed it, but [not] any more than the original Europeans did when
they took over from the natives?  Also, how did they change it?  did they steal
the properties?  Or did they legally buy them as did those that went before back
to the theft from the "indians"?

Moral is: if you think that you won't like your new neighbors then keep your
land.
9:51 pm edt 

Re: Free Loaders

"What a nasty person you must be."

What an unambitious lazy person you must be! Honestly, why aren't you working
like everyone else during the day, and why do you have time to hang around a
"soup kitchen"? Oh I know, because you want everyone in town who fought hard,
earned enough money to buy a place in town, and is still working to make it all
happen to support you. You want subsidized housing, free lunch, free medical
care, and free everything else so you can either work 6 or 7 months a year,
collect unemployment for the rest, and sit around complaining about second
homeowners while eating your free meal. Then you want to complain about how the
town is changing because you can't live for free anymore and property values
have risen. Ever ask yourself why certain people in town never have issues
renting but others do? If you have 6 or 7 months of income, are you a good
rental risk? Again, there are a lot of hard working people in town, but some of
you are giving them all a bad name and affecting how people t!
hink about all these issues. One of the only people in town who should actually
be at a "soup kitchen" is Freddie. The rest of you don't have much of an excuse.
9:06 pm edt 

For: Wayne Martin

Someone wondered if Bobby Anthony had disappeared. No, he's still
around but doesn't have a clue about the issues facing the Town. His solution to
every potential and/ or real problem is "Community Policing". Wayne Martin is a
MUCH better candidate!
9:03 pm edt 

Wayne Martin - Raphael Richter BoS Candidates

I believe we should support Wayne Martin and Raph for Selectmen.

I have watched Anthony and believe his supporters and the people he is aligned with are not the people who support the general agenda that we seem to support. His showing at the candidates night and his PTV interview and his meet and greet were sorely missing in both knowledge and any solid opinions or goals. Mostly what he tries to insert into any discussion is what he would do for community policing.

This is a critical time in Provincetown Politics, and this election, as we all know, is important to the fight we have all waged to get to this point. I am going to encourage each one of you to please, support Wayne Martin. I have spoken to Martin, and he will support what I perceive as the consensus agenda shared by all of you. It seems to me he comes without political favors owed and he seems willing to learn.

I am asking each of you to think outside the box, and help to get Martin elected over Anthony. I will work, behind the scenes, to get the people in my circle on board. I will give my energy and any influence I have to get him elected. I know he will support Mike on Fincom, and Tom and Cheryl on the BOS. I'm not so sure that will happen with Anthony. Remember who is backing him. It is a who’s who of the old "Cabal" members.

I have been very involved behind the scenes, I have built support and friends for our future causes....and I have a fear that if Anthony wins he will be a supporter of whomever has bought him....from realtors to local business community. I don't expect that any one of you will go public. However, I am hoping that you will do what you all can to effect an upset. Much of this comes from my gut feelings and observations of not only Martin and Anthony, but also in each of you.

I hope you all will take this seriously, and consider not only what I am saying, but also what I am hearing. Many voters are concerned with Anthony, but only know Martin from the character based rumors being spread.
3:35 pm edt 

Question to Bobby Anthony and Wayne Martin

Victor came before the BOS seeking an increase in water for the 30 seats that he
admitted he had in his restaurant for years.

If you were on the BOS when he came before you, how would you have voted?  To
give him the gallons and let him keep the seats or to not give the galloons and
make him remove the seats...
3:00 pm edt 

Re Freeloaders

Many people go to the soup kitchen to socialize, not just get a good meal.  Also
many people do in fact pay something for their meal.

Second home owners aren't "the devil".  However, to not at least acknowledge
that people coming into town with a lot of money has inflated the price of
housing here would be wrong.  In a city, people with less money can move to a
less expensive neighborhood.  In Provincetown we are surrounded on three sides
by the sea...

People work hard here, and provide you summer visitors with the things you want,
good restaurants, nice shops etc...
If you want everybody who is struggling to make a living in Provincetown to
leave, you will have a second home in a town with very little to do...

These issues are complicated.  Simple sound bites from either side will not help
to solve our problems.
2:55 pm edt 

Re: Free Loaders

"I've been by the "soup kitchen" and it's disgusting that people call
it that. It's freeloader central, not a mission feeding the poor."


Here's a shining example of how second/third/fourth homeowners come into town,
think they know it all, know the history, know the traditions...and pass
judgement. Gentrification, by name.

Yeah, they like the Ptown 'charm' for about 5 minutes, then set about fencing
off traditional pathways, sealing off beach access, taking every advantage to
build out of scale houses using every inch of footprint possible, cruising
around in their weekend jeeps and Volvo's and...gettin' that Townie feelin' on!

Assuming the year rounders are idiots, free loaders and unambitious because they
don't tow the line like THEY DO.

Yes, you did destroy the town,although you'll never know how deeply. Until you
finally move here full-time to your life dream home, the picture will come into
focus rapidly.
2:51 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

Library Murals

Why hasn't the librarian asked for a formal police investigation? This is
beginning to look suspicious !
2:38 pm edt 

Re: Free Loaders

"Or how about actually working during the day like normal people?"


What a nasty person you must be. Your post is generalizing and misinformed, who
would want to be a 'normal' person and think like you do. Disgusting- go relax
in your second or third home. I will take poverty any day over your shallow,
misguided thinking any day. What a    .
2:27 pm edt 

Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

Bobby Anthony

Has Bobby Anthony disappeared? I don't see him on facebook or commenting
here.....
1:11 pm edt 

Friday, April 25, 2014

From: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

My interview with PTV is on tonight April 25 at 9:30 pm and tomorrow at 9:00 am
for those of you that don't know who I am or what I stand for.

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND
11:01 pm edt 

Re: Free Loaders

"Second homeowners mostly take...You are not saving our town, you are destroying
it!"



I hate to be the one to tell you this, but if it weren't for the second
homeowners and the economy that revolves around the summer tourism, this town
would have dried up and died a long time ago. What planet do you live on? What
industries do you see fighting to land in town? You people who complain can't
even afford real rent, never mind anything else. I've been by the "soup kitchen"
and it's disgusting that people call it that. It's freeloader central, not a
mission feeding the poor. I agree with the other poster. Why don't you actually
PAY for your meals and keep a business open all year? Why don't you actually PAY
market rate for your rents? Gimme Gimme Gimme. Here's a clue: working and living
in town is a CHOICE. If you only want to work 6 or 7 months a year, and don't
want to work like the rest of us, then your options for living are pretty
narrow. Me and a lot of people like me are getting fed up with the freeloaders
who give a bad name to everyone. 95% of you don't belong at a "soup kitchen", you
belong at a restaurant or eating at home to save money. Or how about actually working
during the day like normal people? Don't blame the second homeowners, look in the
mirror at the choices you've made.
10:54 pm edt 

See Wayne Martin - Hear His Views on Important Issues

Ptown Politics Wayne Martin Vimeo Public
 

This is "Ptown Politics Wayne Martin Vimeo Public" by Provincetown Community
TV on Vimeo, the home f...
10:47 pm edt 

Re: Not Enough Signatures

Could you explain?  The entire fate of the Cape Cod Commission
petition hung on Napi's health?  There was nobody else interested or motivated
enough to take it up?
10:21 pm edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

Yes, I agree that that Cape Cod Commission is too confusing, but then
again they probably make sure that it is that way on purpose which does not say
much for transparency on their part.
10:20 pm edt 

Re: Change is in the Air and It's Good

I'll Take this New Group of selectmen anything Over those Now serving

This is a new, refreshing group of people. I am thrilled to have all the
candidates who are running. This is sweet and good and exciting.
10:16 pm edt 

Wayne--Keep Going
 
You are in this race and don't give up. give it your all. You will be fresh
voice for us and quite a perceptive voice.
2:40 pm edt 

To: Change is in the Air and It's Good

"Change is in the air and it's good-------"

Wake up it's not good it's bad.  Look at your so called new selectmen. 

It's a joke
2:38 pm edt 

Cape Cod Commission

Cape Cod commission Too confusing for Too Many

Nothing will happen. What is it really about? Too few know, including me.
2:35 pm edt 

Just Crazy

I hope everyone is really reading these post from the peoples choice
candidate , just crazy, wayne out what is that??  Grow up

12:25 pm edt 

Provincetown Banner - Ann Wood Reporter

Thank you Ann Wood for that fabulous article explaining the issue with
the library murals.  I sure hope they are recovered.
12:19 pm edt 

Change is in the Air--and it is Good!

I look forward to our new BOs and I look forward to the space before we hire a
new town manager and a new police chief. all is working quite well. there is no
need to rush.

I am so glad, so pleased, that Sharon Lynn is no longer here and that Jeff Jaran
is no longer Police chief. It is so refreshing and brings the sense that hope is
real and change will happen.
11:20 am edt 

Re: Not Enough Signatures

It does speak volumes, but not anything to do with public sentiment about the
Cape Cod Commission or a referendum. It speaks to the simple fact that in the
dead of a freezing cold winter, Napi, became severely ill and could not
concentrate at all on collecting voter signatures on the petition in question.

Thank you.
11:17 am edt 

Provincetown Housing Plan

It has been on a face book page with 900 memebers...the same three or four
people are pushing this agenda. Yes we understand that there are no year round
jobs to support families and give them financial security and a way to save for
the future.

All of the huffing and puffing these folks on the FinCom and the new B of S can
do isn't going to create year round jobs  and a thriving year round economy or
create enough rental units that the Ryan Report demands.

And the years go by and the bitterness increases and the second home owners are
castigated again and we hear the same old story that people who own their own
homes only use them a few weeks or months of the year and they are the devil and
the pure of heart are the ones who need housing.


11:14 am edt 

Board of Selectmen: Save the Grace Gouveia Building!

Hi!

I just signed the petition "Board of Selectmen: Save the Grace Gouveia Building!Please do not sign or approve any final disposition for the Grace Gouveia Building sale until the new Board of Selectmen is sworn into Office in May" on Change.org.

It's important. Will you sign it too? Here's the link:

http://www.change.org/petitions/board-of-selectmen-save-the-grace-gouveia-building-please-do-not-sign-or-approve-any-final-disposition-for-the-grace-gouveia-building-sale-until-the-new-board-of-selectmen-is-sworn-into-office-in-may?recruiter=90713193&utm_campaign=signature_receipt&utm_medium=email&utm_source=share_petition

Thanks!
11:07 am edt 

Election Day

When is Election Day? I want to make sure I get out to vote.
11:02 am edt 

Thursday, April 24, 2014

From: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

I am officially on Face Book and the Voice don't forget you can reach me at 508
237 3486 or by text if you prefer.
9:23 pm edt 

From: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Plans have changed for my Meet & Greet I should have all the info tomorrow. It
wont take long to spread the word anyway. look for me on The Voice and Face Book
tonight.

WAYNE OUT :-)

9:02 pm edt 

How Sad For the Children

I was reading an article in the newspaper about a woman who said that she wished
that she was born to different parents because of the constant stress over the
lack of money

This made me think of the people who are so desperate here trying to live year
round on a seasonal economy and the stress that it has on their lives.

We read over and over and over and over again about the housing crisis. How sad
that people moved here and decided to live here on a partial work income when
they know that this is a summer resort. How sad that the day will come when they
can't afford to rent here anymore and that their options are limited.

We can cover the landscape with affordable housing-and still people won't have
enough because people want to live here--but we are a summer resort and as much
as we dearly wish that we could, we just  can't afford to house a year round
population.
8:51 pm edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

There were not enough signatures to move any referendum on the Cape
Cod Commission forward in Provincetown.  It wasn't even close.

That speaks volumes about how many people care, or don't care.
11:04 am edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

I also have something to say to the arrogant commenter (probably       ) because
it sounds like him) who thinks they speak for everyone else here. I checked the
online petition about the CCC (link shown below), and though started by Mr.
Beaty, there are several well known Provincetown residents who signed on to it.
I make this point because that clearly shows this matter is most certainly NOT
"a one man agenda" as falsely claimed by the ARROGANT ONE (say, bye-           ,
                                              ).

PETITION TO ABOLISH THE CAPE COD COMMISSION
https://www.change.org/petitions/rep-bill-keating-abolish-and-shutdown-the-cape-cod-commission-or-alternatively-remove-its-land-use-regulatory-authority-thus-making-it-an-advisory-county-government-agency-only
10:39 am edt 

Is Ptown Just Full of Idiots or What?!

Who in their right mind would have placed painted murals
in an old unsecured shed???
10:35 am edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

I live in Provincetown and think that the so called "one man agenda" referred to
by one of my fellow posters, is anything but, when it comes to having a public
discussion about the Commission. The only person who seems to actually have "an
agenda' here is the one who seems to be trying to stifle public discussion about
it, AND has the arrogance to claim to be speaking for all of the rest of us when
saying "we" have "no interest" in hearing the point of view that someone else
has to share. WRONG!

Was the economic situation here in Ptown so great this past winter? Is there
anyone who feels that we are not over regulated at times?  Did the CCC plan and
pay for the complete town-wide sewering thus alleviating most of our more
serious local wastwater issues?  No. No, and no.

I want to hear more about the Cape Cod Commission, irrespective of who or where
that information or public discussion emanates!

Here is one question that I have: is Austin going to continue to be our
representative to the Cape Cod Commission even after the effective date of his
resignation as an [alledged] corrupt Selectman?

10:16 am edt 

Re: Free Loaders

Second homeowners should use more discretion when they make donations.  I wasn't
aware my contribution wasnt needed.  Thanks for setting me straight.
10:13 am edt 

Re: Free Loaders

"SKIP program donations doesn't come predominently from second-homeowners and is
a 'social gathering place for our long and desolate winters'."



Wouldn't it be better for our community and local business if you went to a
restaurant and paid for a meal.  You complain because so many places close down
for the winter, but did you think more places would stay open if you deemed one
of them a "social gathering place"?  Oh, wait... you might have to pay.  Has
nothing to do with second home owners, has everything to do with a sub set of
our community that just wants everything handed to them.

10:12 am edt 

BoS Candidates

To anyone who is critical of the candidates for BOS I say,      and
run yourself. BOS is a thankless job and these people are crazy to want the
position. Leave them alone and get a life.
10:10 am edt 

To: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Wayne go,back and read some of your post you stated you would never do
a meet and greet you don't feel it is right to take people's money and you don't
need to pat yourself on back, mmmmmmm strange what made you change your mind
10:08 am edt 

The VFW Deal Was a Mess

And the back taxes should have been handled differently. It was the VVFW!!
Please, this whole situation is a disaster and anyone--anyone involved--is a
problem for me.

It is not thriving. the Ladies auxiliary is about to be defunct and you think it
is thriving. and meeting in the elementary school when it had a home is sad and
tragic. the thinking on this property was stupid and that is not a word I
readily use but I do in this case. and I would not elevate stupidity to a
position as selectman.
10:05 am edt 

To: Paul Mendes

POST 3152 LIFETIME MEMBER TO PAUL MENDES

You speak of old members coming back and the Rolls of the Post increasing.
Nothing could be further from the truth countless members have quit, numerous
Life time members will not attended meetings while yet members have been forced
out and we only had 6 people at our last meeting. Who have we given Scholarships
to what charities have we helped. We have asked to see the books, and time and
time again we are denied access to them.                                                          
                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                   
10:02 am edt 

VFW Sale Info

The former official that failed to pay taxes at the post. Could you enlighten us
as to who that was Paul? We now know it wasn't Mr. Anthony. For those of us that
aren't members, could you let us know who it was and for how many years the
taxes went unpaid?
9:59 am edt 

My Choice

After watching the candidates at the candidates night, and considering
the possibilities. I would vote Cheryl, Raphael and Wayne as the new BOS
members. Former Chief Anthony was not prepared to answer any hard questions and
has avoided any public statements regarding his positions on the biggest issues
facing our town.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                      
9:56 am edt 

Wednesday, April 23, 2014

What do the "Concerned Citizens" Stand For?

"SPEAK OUT! Please let us know your thoughts on how you would cut the
budget."



Interesting intro Clarence.  Does that mean that all that you are concerned
about is cutting the budget?  No one else here seems to care.  All the posters
seems to just be concerned about destroying those with whom they differ.

What do the "concerned citizens" stand for?  We can see what they are against. 
Are they for anything?
11:08 pm edt 

From : Wayne Martin BoS Candidate

I would like to inform all of my supporters that I will have a Face Book page
starting tomorrow. I have always shared my girlfriends up till now so its high
time I got my own. Also I am making arrangements to have my Meet & Greet at the
Lobster Pot and will be posting what day and time on THE VOICE, FACE BOOK and
MYPACC.

THANK YOU FOR SUPPORT AND ONCE AGAIN YOU CAN REACH ME AT 508 237 3486
11:06 pm edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

". . .According to a recent poll conducted by WXTK Radio, approximately
70% of the Cape Cod populace believe that the Cape Cod Commission has outlived
its usefulness in its present incarnation. It should either be abolished, or
transformed into an agency that is advisory in nature only (without regulatory
power).
RON BEATY"


Ron, Give it up.  We're not interested in your one-man agenda.
2:57 pm edt 

Wayne Martin: Good That You Are Running

You jumped into the race and good for you., Let the votes tell the tale but you
have every right to run. good for you and maybe good for us.
2:48 pm edt 

Re: Don't Distroy............Build!

"Whoever is badgering Wayne about his job is nasty and elitist."


Nasty, for sure.  Elitist, how?  To too many posters here, disagreement means
one tactic: destroy by character assassination.  Nothing to do with ideas, only
vicious personal attacks.
2:32 pm edt 

Truth be Told - Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

Before Bobby Anthony became bar manager and prior to my or Bobby
Anthony's active involvement with the VFW, a past official failed to pay taxes
for several years. The IRS then filed a claim against the VFW for back taxes for
a negotiated (with the help of the new accountant) amount of $140,000. Therefore
the VFW voted to pay off the tax lien held by the IRS, with a mortgage taken out
by Seamans bank.

The bar had been failing for several years prior to Bobby Anthony becoming bar
manager. In an attempt to save the VFW, because of financial difficulties I made
a motion to sell the back parcel to an abutter, who had offered $400,000.

Bobby Anthony supported selling the back parcel; this unfortunately was voted down
at a post meeting. At that time, it left the post no choice other than to sell the
whole property or face foreclosure. The post voted to sell the property to the
town of Provincetown, for $900,000.

Out of the proceeds of the sale the mortgage was paid off and the remainder of
the money is in a bank account NOT controlled by Bobby Anthony, but by the
Commander and the Quartermaster. 

The post remains intact and is meeting regularly at Veterans Memorial Community
Center, membership is increasing and we are seeing the return of old members.
We are working toward the good of the community and the veterans of foreign war
with scholarships and donations to local charities.

Bobby Anthony did not benefit from the sale of the property in any way and
his campaign has not received any assistance from VFW Post 3152.

Paul Mendes
VFW Post Member since 1966
2:14 pm edt 

Selectmen Employment

Oh please! Why are you people so anxious to know the employment of the
candidates for selectmen. Did you look into what the present selectmen did for a
living before you voted for them. What does Mr. Yingling, Mr. Donavan, Mr.
McChesney, Mr. Knight and Ms. Anderson all do? Do you know? Don't remember
reading anything about you grilling them.
2:02 pm edt 

Re: Free Loaders

"Given that the vast majority homes here are second homes whose owners
pay most of the taxes which go toward town services which they don't even use because
they are not here most of the time,  who is living off whose back?  Next time
you are at the soup kitchen try waking up and smelling the coffee which was most
likely paid for by donations from the "free loafing" second home owners!"


The reason we have to have the services we provide to the extent necessary are
because of second homeowners who spend a few months a year here at best. And I
have seen where the donations come from for the operation of the SKIP program,
and it doesn't come predominently from second-homeowners. Year-round residents
and workers donate for this program, which is a social gathering place for our
long and desolate winters.

Second homeowners mostly take. Give me a break!! Stop thinking you save us from
extinction because you are required to pay for what you use. Second homeowners
cost us in so many not-so-obvious ways, like destroying the rental market. Every
available cubby hole in town is now second-homeowner condos.

You are not saving our town, you are destroying it!
1:56 pm edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

CAPE COD COMMISSION = CAPE-WIDE WASTEWATER & TAXING AUTHORITY/ENTITY/DISTRICT

This is a documented fact, as concretely stated in writing by the Cape Cod
Commission AND the Barnstable County Commissioners themselves.

As an existing county-wide entity, the Cape Cod Commission is about to adopt the
added role of a Cape-wide Regional Wastewater and Taxing Authority. By employing
their own publicly accessible document sources and statements, this factual
conclusion has been reached, and cannot be denied. Here is why.

First, one should consult the area of the Cape Cod Commission website labeled
as: "Frequently Asked Questions:Section 208 Plan Update"
http://watersheds.capecodcommission.org/index.php/faqs/town-officials

Secondly, one should read and review the 16th category on the indicated page
which is titled, "How will implementation be financed?"

It reads as follows:

How will implementation be financed?

Financing mechanisms and strategies are part of the three-year work plan and
will inform its progress at every stage. It is recognized that unless the
recommendations are affordable, the plan will not be implemented. Among the
recommendations adopted by the Barnstable County Commissioners as part of the
Regional Wastewater Management Plan in January 2013 is that the county advocate
for state and federal contributions to cover half the total capital cost in all
management solutions. The Commissioners also supported the recommendation that
no new Cape wide entity implement wastewater management improvements.

According to the above-noted official statement issued by the Cape Cod
Commission AND the Barnstable County Commissioners, the Commission will
"...advocate for state and federal contributions to cover half the total capital
cost in all management solutions." With the total cost of Cape Cod's wastewater
problems estimated to cost in the billions of dollars, and with Cape Cod
taxpayers and homeowners expected to pay for at least one-half of that total
amount, this means that Cape Codders must still pay out billions of dollars on
their own, according to the Cape Cod Commission.

Furthermore, the final sentence of the aforementioned paragraph states that:
"The Commissioners also supported the recommendation that no new Cape wide
entity implement wastewater management improvements." One needs to pay very
close attention to the wording being utilized in this matter because when the
Cape Cod Commission and the County Commissioners say that "...no new Cape wide
entity implement wastewater management improvements" this can only mean that an
EXISTING Cape-wide entity, such as the Cape Cod Commission, should be allowed to
"implement wastewater management improvements." In other words, the Cape Cod
Commission already exists. Moreover, in addition to its current regulatory
duties, the CCC will then also adopt the additional role of a Cape-wide Regional
Wastewater and Taxing Authority. Sound familiar? Despite the Commissions
longwinded  protests, denials and claims to the contrary, this is apparently
what they have been planning all along, an MWRA-style region!
al wastewater authority and/or district.

Additionally, with the new powers granted to the CCC last year to put into place
a Cape-wide District of Critical Planning and Concern (DCPC), which it gained
via the Cape-wide Fertilizer Management DCPC, establishing a county-wide
Wastewater DCPC/Cape-wide Wastewater District is now completely and reasonably
possible. Not only is it possible, it is a certainty unless WE THE PEOPLE remove
this undeserved regulatory authority from the Cape Cod Commission.

Still do not think that they have not been contemplating a Cape-wide Wastewater
DCPC? Well, you are wrong. Simply read the following article, and you will see:

The Barnstable Patriot, December 11, 2011

"A Capewide DCPC for wastewater?"   Written By David Still, II

CC Commission director addresses the possibility

http://www.barnstablepatriot.com/home2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=27231&Itemid=30

As even more evidence of this matter, if one is so inclined, read the respective
February 2012 meeting minutes for the Special Commission on County Governance
(a/k/a the OLeary Commission) in which a discussion was clearly conducted about
changing the term authority to the term district when conversing about their
recommendation for a regional wastewater authority/entity/district with taxation
powers. At that time, according to Sue Rohrbach, the District Director for State
Senator Dan Wolf, the term district would be more readily accepted by the public
because the term authority has negative connotations and is controversial.

One cannot make this stuff up folks. It is all well documented fact.

Now that the above-noted material has been pointed out to you, do you still want
to trust them? Fine, that is your choice, but I certainly do not. Furthermore, I
am not alone.

According to a recent poll conducted by WXTK Radio, approximately 70% of the
Cape Cod populace believe that the Cape Cod Commission has outlived its
usefulness in its present incarnation. It should either be abolished, or
transformed into an agency that is advisory in nature only (without regulatory
power).

RON BEATY
1:46 pm edt 

Re: Free Loaders

"I go to the soup kitchen to socialize as well as to eat. Why should I
be ashamed to go to meetings or gallery openings that offer free food? What does
that have to do with the way I vote? The true free loafers are the second home
owners who live off our backs."



Very curious post.  First, it is "free loader" not "free loafers" although some
free loaders may be loafers. I would love to hear some sort of explanation about
2nd home owners and how they live off our backs.  Very curious attitude, indeed.
1:40 pm edt 

From Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

It should be said that my ideas on the way town should be run might differ
from some. My way of looking at things is that the people should not be the
sheep and the Selectmen and or the Police the Shepherds. It should be that
the Police and Selectmen are the Sheepdogs and we the Shepherds.

Are not we supposed to tell them what we want. And are they not supposed to work
for us and follow our commands, to keep the wolfs at bay and keep order? Lately it
seems that this town has fallen into way of thinking that should never be accepted in
a democracy or a free country.

If elected I promise to do my best that this is not going to continue and the people
will have the final say.

One more thing before I sign off I want to  sincerely thank all the men and women
on FINCOM for stepping in when they did to right the wrongs that were going unchallenged.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR SUPPORT
1:32 pm edt 

Re: Free Loaders

"What Does That Have to do With the Way I Vote? "


If we continue to offer subsidized housing, half the year off... with money
still coming in and all the services and benefits that a few "full time
residents" get to vote for, we will continue to see candidates / elected
officials that pander to these dead beats.  Show up for the free food... never
buy anything, look for "Townie Night" freebies and complain about that the
"rich" second home owners do not do enough for you.  Go out and take care of
yourself!  You are a "free loafer" and you are so use to getting taken care of,
it has now become your expectation.  Why should anyone else subsidize your need
to "socialize as well as to eat".
1:12 pm edt 

Re: Don't Distroy............Build!

What is Bobby Anthony Doing for work Now?

And is it important? Ask Mr. Martin a decent question instead of droning on and
on.
11:53 am edt 

Don't Distroy............Build!

"Ok Wayne, we are getting somewhere. You said that you HAD worked
fishing and carpentry. So what are you doing NOW? What boat are you working on
or do you have you own? What contractor are you working for or are you a
licensed and insured contractor? Please tell us, we want to now how you are
making a living. We all want to know. Please be specific."


I hope that Wayne ignores you.  What arrogance to demand this info.  All I care
about is how he would be as a member of the BOS. What boat he has/does work on
is irrelevant.  What tools he owns to work as a carpenter is irrelevant.  What
he ate for breakfast is irrelevant.  You are not interested in any of this
stuff, you just want to destroy him with the usual tactic of too many posters
here- launch the personal attacks and cause distrust and suspicion.  I will not
vote for Wayne but not because of the BS that you are pulling.

Just vote for the people that you feel are best.  Don't claw and rip at the
characters of those that you don't favor.  Tell Us who you want and why.  Don't
destroy.  Build.
11:51 am edt 

Re: Wayne Martin

Whoever is badgering Wayne about his job is nasty and elitist. Exactly
what one would expect from                                                 Let's keep this
garbage group out of Town Hall.  The smell is just now starting to recede after
their last six year regime fell.
10:44 am edt 

Wayne Martin

I think the web master is a martin supporter that's why certain things
don't get In.
10:42 am edt 

Re: FinCom

". . . I've spoken to three of the BOS members and, on a personal
level, it's something they've all thought about. . ."



An anonymous poster on an anonymous blog asks us to believe him/her about a
conversation that may or may not have happened.  Oh sure, I believe that.
10:35 am edt 

Tuesday, April 22, 2014

To: Wayne Martin

Ok Wayne, we are getting somewhere. You said that you HAD worked
fishing and carpentry. So what are you doing NOW? What boat are you working on
or do you have you own? What contractor are you working for or are you a
licensed and insured contractor? Please tell us, we want to now how you are
making a living. We all want to know. Please be specific.
10:23 am edt 

Re: Free Loaders

RE: "I go to the soup kitchen to socialize as well as to eat. Why
should I be ashamed to go to meetings or gallery openings that offer free food?
What does that haveto do with the way I vote? The true free loafers are the second
home owners who live off our backs."


Given that the vast majority homes here are second homes whose owners pay most
of the taxes which go toward town services which they don't even use because
they are not here most of the time,  who is living off whose back?  Next time
you are at the soup kitchen try waking up and smelling the coffee which was most
likely paid for by donations from the "free loafing" second home owners!
10:18 am edt 

Regionalization of Public Safety

Regionalization of public safety may be a good thing for both PT and
Truro, but then again, it might not.  There are many points to consider and the
needs of police and fire are quite different.  Police are usually on the road so
there is the need for siting of the station is not critical.  This is not true
or fire.  The administration and command authority can be very thorny issues
also.
9:55 am edt 

Re: FinCom
 
"Please point me in the direction of any BOS minutes where this has ever been
discussed."


I've spoken to three of the BOS members and, on a personal level, it's something
they've all thought about. How's that? It's also been mentioned in other forums
for quite a while now. Maybe if you got up and actually talked to people, you
wouldn't have to post drivel like this. Also, maybe if people actually read the
charter sections and State Law on Fincom, they wouldn't keep posting the same
crap on here over and over that's just plain wrong. Maybe they just watch Fox
News too much because a warrant like this is exactly the type of thing Fincom is
SUPPOSED to present since it affects town finances in a big way, given the total
cost of an employee. So read and understand and also talk to people before you
post, and you'll look less uninformed.
9:52 am edt 

Self Inflicted Headaches

Anyone that wants the town to run rentals at either the Community
Center or the GG does not remember how hard it was to get out of the highly
beaurocratic nursing home business. So much administrative and retirement cost
to the town, it was a financial disaster. We should not be creating social and
financial headaches for ourselves.
9:50 am edt 

From: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Its has been asked what I think of the merger of Lower Cape Police departments
particularly Ptown and Truro, who would Chief and Truro's officers working in
our town. While in my opinion this merger would be more beneficial to Truro than
us, if it would save our Tax payers a significant amount of money I am open to
any and all ideas.

Any one with eyes has noticed that you can see that Truro cruisers are in Ptown
almost every day and their officers  quite often can be seen working details
here I see no problem in this at all. My ideas on who should be Chief of this
merger is a whole different matter and they go as follows.

  Anyone wishing to apply for the job as Chief would submit his or her resume to
the selectmen of both towns. Then the selectmen would check if their
qualification met with the standards set fourth  by our two towns. Next I would
suggest that a joint town meeting would be held where any and all applicants
would have X amount of time to impress the tax payers with their qualifications,
back grounds and ideas, which afterwards the people would vote. What could be
more Democratic and would draw less suspicion than that.

As far as a Chief taking over this joint department, which the only reason he
has the title now is because 1) his predecessor got drunk and hit a tree with a
cruiser or 2) the preceding Chief got fired for his lack of morals and his
outlandish actions, does not sit well with me at all nor would I think it would
with the majority of the Tax payers.

AGAIN YOU CAN REACH ME AT 508 237 3486 AND AGAIN THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT
9:47 am edt 

FinCom Meeting

Proposal to re-affirm the Finance Committees recommendation that the
BOS pause consideration to sell GG Building and/or Community Center until after
election and / or until after STM in Fall, 2014.


That's what their meeting is for, to vote again on the same thing they have
already voted on?  What a waste of time and money.  Do we pay PTV to tape their
meetings?  Do we pay someone to take their minutes?  Do we pay staff to attend?

Our fiscal watchdog is very responsible with our money.
9:44 am edt 

Black Lines?

Why is it some peoples names can be blasted all over this site but
others get a black line through it??
9:42 am edt 

New Chief

I hope the new chief whomever it may be does something about all the
druggies and alcoholics in this town, and the ones who live in Truro but come to
our town bars and restaurants, long drive back when your that drunk, lots of
innocent people on roads.
9:39 am edt 

Free Loaders

"Only in Provincetown... who paid for the pizza?  If everyone knew
dinner was included, there would have been standing room only."


I go to the soup kitchen to socialize as well as to eat. Why should I be ashamed
to go to meetings or gallery openings that offer free food? What does that have
to do with the way I vote? The true free loafers are the second home owners who
live off our backs.
9:38 am edt 

The Lessor of Two Evils

Why does some person keep asking what Wayne Martin does for a living,
what his job is? There are a few retired, and semi-retired members of town
government who don't work for anyone. That has absolutely nothing to do with how
one would govern. Wayne Martin would simply be the better choice between Robert
Anthony and Wayne Martin. Anthony we already know will be beholding to many in
town, old debts. Don't trust this man to work for the people of this town. He
will sell out to the realtors (which he is one) and the thin blue line. Be
careful what you vote for....Wayne Martin is far less "connected" to the greedy
interests in our town. The lessor of two evils.
9:36 am edt 

Monday, April 21, 2014

Re: Dog Park

I have something to say it's not political and I am not on facebook so
this is where I can say it....... To all you dog park people, if you bring your
dog there and other dogs play with them don't get mad , they are not playing
"ruff" they are playing,  it is a friendly dog park and I hate it when one two
people ruin it by saying oh your dog is mean,   Really people don't come them
stay in your own yard
10:43 pm edt 

The End of the VFW Was Sad

And anyone who helped to make that happen is not who I want for selectman. It
did not have to end like it did. There were thos4e who worked to undermine the
VFW as they spoke of veterans and their loyalty. but they were not loyal. The
bar downstairs could have been making money and the rentals at the VFW brought
in money. But some wanted it sold and wanted to play with the money. Where is
the money now? In whose checking account? And to the extent that Bobby Anthony
had anything to do with the VFW's dismiss, then he cannot have my vote. Some
killed a thriving organization and an old-line establishment. This is sad and
tragic and upsetting.
10:40 pm edt 

Re: FinCom -Truro + Provincetown

Combined Departments

Has the possibility of combining departments been carefully explored, and if so,
what was the outcome? Obviously, someone looked into this or it would not have
been suggested. Would a new station be required somewhere in between Truro and
Provincetown to house both Truro and Provincetown operating under one chief with
both units becoming one servicing two communities?
10:38 pm edt 

Re: FinCom -Truro + Provincetown - Martin

I wonder where Mr. Martin stands in regards to the merger of the two police
forces with the Truro chief becoming the chief of the combined department.
Combined would also mean the Truro officers would possibly work in Provincetown
too and Provincetown in Truro at times. Well, what say you Mr. Martin?
9:24 pm edt 

Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

So, Mr Anthony is had his meet and greet at the Crown and Anchor.
If you didn't know before, you should know now, whose pocket he is in. Do we
really want another selectman owing to the same old business interests who got
us into this mess?
9:22 pm edt 

From: Wayne Martin BoS Candidate

First off I feel it must be said I write my own blogs and they will always bear
my name as I refuse to hide behind anyone's skirt tails. I feel saddened when I
read on this site that I should be harassed by the police for going through the
proper channels when I see a problem ( "no wonder he is on the Truro polices
radar he complained to the selectmen about them")
in my mind there is something
seriously wrong with that thinking.

If I am elected no one will have to worry about that kind of thing happening if I
have any say in the matter. As far as my reputation goes I have never claimed to
adorn a hallowed stature at any time in my life, but I take pride in knowing that I
have always helped my fellow man or woman, when I could.

I want to thank all my supporters once again for everything they have done and
continue to do and also thank you for your generous offers to let me use your
establishments to hold my event.

I will be posting where and when my Meet and Greet will take place in the near future.

I HOPE EVERYONE HAD A NICE HOLIDAY
9:20 pm edt 

Martin Yes - Anthony No!

Why is everyone so freaked out by Martin's Candidacy?

Is it because Anthony was seen hanging out with the same people who caused us
all the problems in the past? Couture, Cohen, Bedard, etc and that when he was
asked questions he never really answered them? Could some people here be afraid
that Martin really might win because a lot of people are now thinking twice
about Anthony and with who he'd align? When I saw him hanging with those people
at candidates night, it certainly made ME rethink my vote. There is no possible
way we need that old group back haunting town hall...the same group that put us
where we are. We got rid of two problems so far, let's not put back another one.

I think Martin is just what this town needs now. Someone that's not so cushy in
with problems of the past. Perhaps all this screaming is because people are
starting to figure that out.
9:12 pm edt 

Re: Fincom

"1. This has been a long standing discussion, even among BOS members
for a while, about whether we even need a police chief or if we could share the
administrative duties with Truro to save money for both towns.  .  ."


Please point me in the direction of any BOS minutes where this has ever been
discussed.  I believe I have watched every BOS meeting, either live or taped,
and am pretty sure I have never once heard the BOS discuss not hiring a police
chief and instead combining the job with Truro.
9:08 pm edt 

Re: David Cox AKA Oatsey Hussein Rogers?

Why would anyone associate Mr. Cox with the Admin of the silly
Lighthouse Facebook page?  This is crazy. The MacGuru that I know doesn't have
time for narcicistic drama like that, sorry kids!
9:02 pm edt 

From: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Apparently some of the readers on this site have trouble understanding what I
write although I believe it is English. So here it goes again, as far as my work
goes I have been a CARPENTER and a COMMERCIAL FISHERMAN depending on
the time of year.

My girl friends mother is on a fixed income not me and can't afford her
Property taxes. If I misspoke I apologize. I was a little nervous not used to
public speaking; but I will learn to do better. The reason I had to shut
my phone off,which I bought for town business, is because I was getting prank
phone calls at all hours of the night. Again people can reach me at 508 237 3486
instead of taking anonymous cheap shots at me LOL.

I will say one thing about Mr. Anthony he must not have mirrors in his home cuz
there is no way he could look in one after what he did to the members of VFW Post
3152 and the good people of our town.

DO YOU REALLY WANT TO SUPPORT SOMEONE THAT WON'T PUT HIS NAME TO HIS WORDS.
THATS NOT LEADERSHIP MATERIAL!!!
9:00 pm edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Mr Martin you say you will answer all questions well the question you
keep avoiding is what do you do for a living, why will you not tell,the voters?? 
Why should I vote for someone who won't answer a question??
8:52 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

"The Provincetown Finance Committee will hold an open meeting on
Thursday, April 24, at 1:00 PM in the Judge Welsh Room, 260 Commercial Street
Votes will be taken:

Consider asking the Finance Committee & / or BOS to  send a rep to the 4/29/14
Truro Town Meeting to encourage them to seriously consider regionalizing police
services with Provincetown before they spend $140k per year on two new positions
and before we hire a Chief.
Proposal to re-affirm the Finance Committees recommendation that the BOS pause
consideration to sell GG Building and/or Community Center until after election
and / or until after STM in Fall, 2014. Minutes of past meetings.

Regards, Mike Canizales "


It seems that many, if not most of the posts here are from members of the
FinCom, so maybe they can read their copies of the Charter and tell the rest of
us where the FinCom is given the responsibility to work with other towns or make
any kind o recommendation other than on finance article at town meeting. The Fin
Com has no authority under our laws to meet with Truro or to debate the wisdom
of anything that is not an article before the town meeting.  This is the kind of
usurpation of power that annoys those that have the legal responsibility and
others that don't want to see town operations muddied by people who are
overreaching.

If members of the FinCom have something to contribute that is not a current town
meeting issue they should ask to present their thoughts as private citizens
before the appropriate board that has the legal authority to act on the matter.
8:47 pm edt 

Truro + Provincetown

There is no benefit to Truro to share in the dysfunction of
Provincetown.  As a Truro resident I think I can speak for most of our residents
when I say no thanks.
8:44 pm edt 

Candidates Night

"There were more than 50 people who attended candidates night, not 30 as someone
posted."

The attendance represents about a third of the residents that will actually vote
for our selectman.  It is amazing how few people make decisions on how this town
is run.  Amazing that a few "residents" decide everything, but most of the money
the town spends comes from the second home owners.  Most of the people that vote
rent or live in subsidized housing.  Same people who choose to retire here, go
to the soup kitchen daily and complain that the town services do not meet their
needs.  Only in Provincetown... who paid for the pizza?  If everyone knew dinner
was included, there would have been standing room only.
8:43 pm edt 

Grace Gouveia Petition

Save the Grace Gouveia Building!Please do not sign or approve any final disposition for the Grace Gouveia Building sale until the new Board of Selectmen is sworn into Office in May
    1. Petition by

      Barbara Rushmore, Susan Mitchell and Vincent Currier

8:35 pm edt 

Re: David Cox AKA Oatsey Hussein Rogers?

Frankly, why should this site give a shit about who Oatsey Hussein Rogers is.

Please don't clotter this site with facebook bull! Leave it where it belongs.
1:49 pm edt 

Re: David Cox AKA Oatsey Hussein Rogers?

David Cox is a good guy but He surely Could be one of the Many Oastey
Hussein Rogers

He surely can handle the computer/internet aspect of the Lighthouse and have the
postings come from wherever. He is based in North Truro and could one--just
one--of the many faces of Oastey Hussein Rogers. that is just my take but I look
to hear from others who may know even more.
1:46 pm edt 

I'm Glad Wayne Martin is in the Race

He is a breath of fresh air. He has every right to run and to stay in the race.
Whatever happens, votes are votes. there is nothing to be ashamed of for anyone
nor for any of the candidates. the people decide, whimsical at times or not, but
that is what this is about.

Stay Wayne. You deserve to run and be heard.
1:43 pm edt 

Re: Fincom

"The entire FinCom wants this meeting or Mike does? Summarized another way this
meeting is:"



1. This has been a long standing discussion, even among BOS members for a while,
about whether we even need a police chief or if we could share the
administrative duties with Truro to save money for both towns. It may come to
nothing, but the idea is to explore it. Not exactly controversial.

2. According to recent developments it seems the neighbors are up in arms,
there's been an article in the paper, and I hear a petition is going to be
circulated about the purpose of this sale. The town said to sell it, the town
never said it approved of all USES of the sale. What you're seeing is the
financial oversight committee acting on input from MANY town voters that want it
sold, not given away for dubious purposes or one that would cause problems for
the abutters. Again the BOS can take the advice or not. Or the abutters can go
to court to grind this to a halt as well. I will predict if they move forward,
that is exactly what will happen.
10:45 am edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Dear Mr. Im an open book Martin,
You have been asked several times WHAT DO YOU DO FOR WORK?
You have yet to answer the question. So, what do you do for work?
10:35 am edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

What jobs does Wayne Martin have or had? He said he is on a fixed
income but he appears too young to be retired.
10:34 am edt 

Re: Wayne Martin

Wayne Martin - NOT NOT NOT a BoS Candidate

Is this guy for real? He says he set up a phone number just for questions from
the voters before the election and after? Then he mentions he has no obligation
to answer the phone, posted in here a while back? Then why the phone line?
I know of this guy from years ago in Truro, always hounding the selectmen about
the cops. Then he wonders why they have him on the radar. He claims his life is
an open book? Tell us then, as asked in here a little while back, what do you do
for a job? How do you contribute to the economic society?
Rafael is a member of FINCOM and runs a cab company, Andrews is a long time
public servant and dentist and Anthony is another long time public servant and
current realtor. These are accomplished people, not Martin. Yes, a realtor makes
people scared but keep in mind, he knows the system and can work the other side
for the town. Whats Martin got? A degree in "life experience"? Seems like he got
all "D"s and "F"s.
10:32 am edt 

Re: Swill Hole

"PLEASE, SOMEONE HAVE THE BANNER DO AN ARTICLE ABOUT THE MISSING
MURALS AND SHINE A LIGHT INTO THE DARK CORNERS OF CORRUPTION AND LIES IN THIS
TOWN. TIME FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY."



"I nominate you to be the leader of the charge against the residents of this
swill hole that is so full of corruption and lies that are property values are
falling too fast.  Are you willing to "TAKE RESPONSIBILITY" OR YOU TOO PART OF
THE PROBLEM? "



Another person who can't pass a reading comprehension test.  The original post
said that the town had dark corners of corruption and lies. That is the obvious
reference to "swill hole", not the blog.  Since the poster was so eager to get
the swill cleaned up it was suggested that he/she "take responsibility".  Now
that it has been explained, perhaps you can rethink your overreactive reaction.
10:30 am edt 

Wayne Martin vs Robert Anthony

I will NOT vote for Martin or Anthony.  I would rather write in my
cats name then have those two have say in this towns government .   I will say
at least Anthony has some experience but martin is just a joke.
10:27 am edt 

To: Wayne Martin

Here is some good advice, drop out know with some
dignity and start slow maybe join a committee you just moved back to town, don't
think you can just fix everything , you need to work on fixing yourself first.   
I mean really no one will take you seriously your reputation is following you,
work on fixing that first
10:26 am edt 

Robert Anthony vs Wayne Martin.

Have you ever heard the story of the Prodigal Son?

Or how about a seemingly fine Police Chief gone wild?

Wayne deserves just as much consideration as Bobby.

A Rat In The Basement
10:24 am edt 

Truro

Please keep your moron posters in  Provincetown, you have already managed to
turn this community(p-town)  into a three ring circus and discouraged tourists,
newcomers and progress.
10:23 am edt 

Re: PBG

Look who's running the Pbg and you have your answer You really have 2
directors...one in name and the other a partner behind the scenes.  I have to
concur that they are not offering services to members at all
10:22 am edt 

Re: PBG vs Chamber of Commerce

I think both the PBG and the Chamber of Commerce are useless in
promoting local business. The town's tourism office does a more effective job
with the tax dollars we supply. Don't piss away your hard earned money to fund
the salaries of the PBG.
10:13 am edt 

FinCom

"Consider asking the Finance Committee & / or BOS to  send a rep to the
4/29/14 Truro Town Meeting to encourage them to seriously consider regionalizing
police services with Provincetown before they spend $140k per year on two new
positions and before we hire a Chief.
Proposal to re-affirm the Finance Committees recommendation that the BOS pause
consideration to sell GG Building and/or Community Center until after election."
 


The entire FinCom wants this meeting or Mike does?  Summarized another way this
meeting is:
1.  Dear Truro voters, we don't want to pay for our police so we want you to
help us.
2.  Town meeting voters have twice voted to sell these two buildings, but we're
going to keep asking you to go against the will of town meeting voters.
9:29 am edt 

From: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Again I feel I must clear up lies told by my opponents. First of all I did not
bring up the issues of mine and Miss Previe's pet coyote( see You Tube Truro
coyote or Truro Vixen for the truth) , Rangers. or the EPO'S. Everybody knows
that reads this site they were constantly brought up in the past on this site to
try to discredit me. Let me make one thing perfectly clear having a coyote for a
pet holds a maximum penalty of 50 dollars no different than  rolling through a
stop sign and far less than some speeding tickets. I have a good relationship
with both the National Seashore and the Environmental Police and maintain
friendships as well as respect both of these organizations.

Another lie that keeps being told is that I now or I have had any lawsuits
against Provincetown or any other town for that matter. It was also mentioned
that I did not grow up in town just another lie. My father and grandfather owned
Coastal Acres camp ground where I lived until I was 14 when we moved to Truro. I
still came to town just about every day either to go to school, working as a
fisherman or a carpenter as well as other jobs I have held in town until I moved
back. I absolutely do not hate law enforcement just corruption I have many
friends that are both police and also have one particularly good friend that is
a SWAT commander-deputized U.S Marshal that I have vacationed with several times
in the past.

As far as the Truro police go I absolutely have been a thorn in there side
often making complaints about their illegal actions. Look at their track record
the Chief of police ran a brand new cruiser into a tree drunk with his pants
down after there was a petition given with 200 signatures to the selectmen to
look else where for a Chief, cruisers being totaled or smashed up with no
disciplinary action taken, officers threatening to kill their wives allowed to
walk away. Lawsuit after Lawsuit against them the list is endless.

My personal opinion as well as many others is that they should be dismantled
and hire a Sheriff and a couple of on call Deputies elected by the Taxpayers to
handle the small amount of crime that occurs there. This is a common practice
with many towns in the Commonwealth with small populations and no real town
centers. It will also save Truro a huge amount of money in Lawsuits and
unnecessary salaries. I am soooo glad I moved back to Ptown to get out of a town
that the tax payers and residents are discouraged to make complaints against the
police. ( this was said at a Selectmen meeting which was videoed and televised).

I CAN BE REACHED AT 508 237 3486 FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
9:25 am edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

I see one or more of you might be concerned because of my like of the National
Seashore. This dose not mean I agree with everything the Park has done over the
years but I maintain a good relationship with their Rangers and am glad the
properties they own and maintain can never be developed. Again that's just my
opinion and you are welcome to agree or disagree with it that's what makes this
country great.
9:16 am edt 

Sunday, April 20, 2014

Re: PBG vs Chamber of Commerce

"Does the PBG actually do anything for business other than collect
fees? A friend of mine said it was a complete waste of money and to join the
Chamber of Commerce instead."



But didn't Candace ask the PBG to represent the Chamber in the Town
Manager's Search Committee?
11:39 pm edt 

Re: Martin vs Anthony

I watched candidates night on PTV. I thought a realtor and candidate for
selectman would have a better answer than Anthony did about the sale of the
community center to house seasonal staff of businesses in town- he said he
didn't know about it. So he's either out of the loop completely, or not being
honest- why do I suspect the latter? Martin focused on listening to the people.
Who will Anthony be listening to?
11:33 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

Swill Hole? who the Heck are You? Despicable, that is for sure. and
this is about the library and the stealing of art work. And you--yes you--would
condemn this blog for being a swill hole because they are concerned with the
disappearance of the art works and art records?? You should be a shamed of
yourself but you do not have this type of personality. You disgust me.
11:32 pm edt 

Robert Anthony vs Wayne Martin

Bob Anthony vs Martin is a joke. One man upholding the law by making
the right choices and advoiding conflicts as with hate mongers,and another man
always in conflict with the law, one man who gave his life to public service,
and another man who became a public problem,one  man who was recognized by the
highest office in government  for the programs he started, and another man who
disrespected the national seashore and EPOs.  Mr Martian do you truly believe
that the people of Provincetown are that naive that they would waste there vote
on you. Come on! Do us all a favor, as you have already suggested and stop all
this silliness and drop out . Maybe you could help out and give people rides so
they could vote for the real canidates . That would be a good start for you in
public service.
11:29 pm edt 

FinCom Meeting

The Provincetown Finance Committee will hold an open meeting on Thursday, April
24, at 1:00 PM in the Judge Welsh Room, 260 Commercial Street

Votes will be taken:

Consider asking the Finance Committee & / or BOS to  send a rep to the 4/29/14
Truro Town Meeting to encourage them to seriously consider regionalizing police
services with Provincetown before they spend $140k per year on two new positions
and before we hire a Chief.
Proposal to re-affirm the Finance Committees recommendation that the BOS pause
consideration to sell GG Building and/or Community Center until after election
and / or until after STM in Fall, 2014.
Minutes of past meetings.

Regards, Mike Canizales
11:27 pm edt 

Re: Fincom

"State law has very little to do with it.  Please quote chapter and verse."


OK here you go, notice the STATE LAW, and then notice that everywhere in the
charter, it just mentioned the committee in terms of what it has to approve and
when because the functions are mandated BY STATE LAW. But by all means keep
posting your drivel. It's good for people to realize exactly what it is:

2-3-10 Prior to a vote on an article concerning the expenditure of town funds,
the finance
committee shall state the number of its members in favor of and opposed to the
article, and its
chairman, or his or her designee, shall explain the view of the majority to the
meeting

3-4-7 A member of the board of assessors, the finance committee, the personnel
board, or
the school committee shall not receive any payment from the town except
reimbursement for
vouchered expenses pertaining to town business.

5-1-3 The moderator shall appoint members to the finance committee and personnel
board, subject to the provisions of section 3-1-2 of this charter.

Section 7: The Finance Committee

6-7-1 There shall be a finance committee as provided by G.L. c. 39 s 16,
consisting of
seven regular members and two alternate members appointed by the moderator for
three-year
overlapping terms so arranged that the terms of at least three regular members
shall expire each year,
provided that no more than one alternate members term expires in any given
year.15

6-7-2 The finance committee shall exercise the powers and duties prescribed by
the
Massachusetts General Laws, the Provincetown General By-Laws, and this charter.

6-7-3 A member of the finance committee shall not be a member of any other town
board.
11:21 pm edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

I find it comical that my adversaries keep bringing up Google the only thing it
shows is the incident about my and Amie Previe's pet coyote. Which I will state
again all charges were thrown out because of the illegal actions of the Truro
police. The only thing I have been found responsible on my official court record
is a disorderly conduct charge which I got defending my girl friend over a
decade ago and had nothing to do with alcohol or any crime. My life is an open
book again if you want to ask me any questions just call 508 237 3486 don't
listen to the BS its just a bunch of cowards that use this forum to take cheap
shots at me.

As far as who was contacted  about what it would cost for the materials for a
building the size of the new foot print that could be put there for a police
station to get tight to the weather it was  Midcape and Shepleys. I also talked
to two builders about how much it would cost approximately to make it tight to
the weather and how long it would take to do the same. which without their
permission I wont give their names or figures. As far what I said about the
people electing both the TM and the Police Chief that's what my opinion is or am
I not allowed to have one and quite frankly I don't care if other towns hold
elections for these positions. As far as how you accomplish having these
positions filled with out ties or prejudices that's what interviews are for!!!

THANKS FOR THE QUESTIONS


11:16 pm edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Come on people.  This can't be serious I grew up In this town I know
the martin          very well you can't really think wayne is a good candiate,
he has zero experience, he hasn't held a job in a long long time I mean this has
to be  a joke,
11:10 pm edt 

Wayne Martin For Selectman???

So he has brought his issues with the police here and in Truro and his father
into the fray, mentioning he was a selectman for years in Truro and he has
brought his coyote escapades into the discussion also. I hope the webmaster and
forum operator will allow others to post what we feel is negative about all that
he has brought into the discussion. The voters should know all of the info, not
just the "I'm a nice guy, vote for me" stuff. Bottom line is that he has
lawsuits against the town regarding his fathers death and owning a coyote is
illegal whether he likes it or not. He has been a thorn in the side of the
National Seashore rangers for the past 20 years and absolutly hates cops. His
agenda is to mess up the progress regarding the VFW and other than that he has
no clue what he is doing in a position of power such as a selectman.
11:08 pm edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Wayne martin should not be a selectman.  He is not a townie he is from
Truro just came back to town . He is a joke.  Do not vote for this person. He
will ruin the town.   What kind of perso                                     .   Wayne does
11:04 pm edt 

Re: Oastey Hussein Rogers

I too Wonder who David Cox Is in Relation to Oastey Hussein Rogers

Is he Oastey Hussein Rogers? Or is he one of many who pretend to be the one and
only: Oastey Hussein Rogers.

That is the question.

Who will answer this.
10:59 pm edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

I will say honestly to those who scoff at voting for Wayne
Martin....he is the least of two evils. If you vote for Bobby Anthony you cast a
vote for people like               who is the "Anthony Puppetmaster" and others
who are not part of the "townie class". Anthony "owes" too many people too
much....and will be as much like Sharon Lynn as you can get. A heavy police
influence. Wayne Martin is not what one would consider the most informed
politician, and has no ties to the current "influence" of the Klyttas, Hoorts,
Coens, Murrays, Knights, Ciceros, etc., but he would be more cautious of these
people who try to influence elections for their own gain. Remember when you
enter the voting booth. The big picture says vote for Wayne Martin over Robert
Anthony. We will have far less controversy and "police and real estate"
influence on the BOS. Certain people are exaggerating Mr. Martin's reputation to
ruin any chance he has. He is far from perfect, but he would be a better choice for
many reasons.

Cast a vote for Wayne Martin if you want Provincetown
to move in a direction for year-round residents and not the priviledged and
powerful money interests. Surprise the power mongers!!
10:53 pm edt 

We Can do Without You

If you find this site problematic or you call it a ----site

then go elsewhere my friend. Go the Voice. Or go to the Lighthouse. The options
are yours. But I would suggest you send your words elsewhere. Somehow I think we
can do well without you. In Fact, quite well.
4:20 pm edt 

PBG vs Chamber of Commerce

Does the PBG actually do anything for business other than collect
fees? A friend of mine said it was a complete waste of money and to join the
Chamber of Commerce instead.
4:15 pm edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

WAYNE MARTIN SUPPORTERS

Is that the best that his opponents can do a man who loves animals raised a
coyote for a pet so that makes him un-capable of being a good selectman. They
must also hate Davey Crockett, Daniel Boone and lol Grizzly Adams. At least he
did not screw all the Life time members of VFW Post 3152.

KING OF THE WILD FRONTIER,  WAS A MAN WAS A BIG MAN, REMEMBER THEY WERE ALL BAD
PEOPLE ACCORDING TO SOME.
4:13 pm edt 

Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

I Fear Bobby Anthony's Return to a Police dominated town

Once a police chief, always a police chief. I like what we have and the balance
is on the citizen side. I am concerned. Please don't make be wish that Elaine
Anderson should be running again. Please!
4:10 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

"PLEASE, SOMEONE HAVE THE BANNER DO AN ARTICLE ABOUT THE MISSING
MURALS AND SHINE A LIGHT INTO THE DARK CORNERS OF CORRUPTION AND LIES IN THIS
TOWN. TIME FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY
."


I nominate you to be the leader of the charge against the residents of this
swill hole that is so full of corruption and lies that are property values are
falling too fast.  Are you willing to "TAKE RESPONSIBILITY" OR YOU TOO PART OF
THE PROBLEM?
11:21 am edt 

Let Me Ask Again: Who is David Cox?

He is the MacGuru but who is he? and more importantly, is he Oastey Hussein
Rogers? Or is he at least part of the triumvirate that is today Oastey Hussein
Rogers?

Is this to problematic to post? It is a simple question.
11:18 am edt 

Provincetown Public Library

PLEASE, SOMEONE HAVE THE BANNER DO AN ARTICLE ABOUT THE MISSING MURALS
AND SHINE A LIGHT INTO THE DARK CORNERS OF CORRUPTION AND LIES IN THIS TOWN. 
TIME FOR SOMEONE TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.
11:12 am edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

It has been brought to my attention that a few of you are concerned about what
the Truro police have put on the web about me. Let me put your minds at ease.
I assure you that the coyote was well cared for, loved  and I never had a problem
with it as well as all the pets I have ever had. The firearms that were illegally
seized that I still have, many of them were left to me by my uncle and my dad
former 12 year Truro selectman and member of the Ptown finance committee Robert
Martin who I might ad kept foxes for pets himself.

Just on a personal note I was brought up as an Outdoorsman as well as my dad
and his brothers and their dad before them, that might explain a little better
my love for all animals and my wish to preserve our open spaces. I would
say my motto is work to live don't live to work you should enjoy life.  Again
all charges resulting in the illegal actions of the Truro police were thrown out
in that matter.

I CAN NOT PROMISE I WILL BE THE GREATEST SELECTMAN THIS TOWN HAS EVER HAD I CAN
ONLY PROMISE WITH YOUR HELP I WILL TRY.  HAPPY EASTER EVERYONE
11:10 am edt 

Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

DEVOTED HIS LIFE TO PUBLIC SERVICE HA HA

Yes Anthony worked for the town and collected a pay check for it. But to say he
devoted his life to public service I don't think so! When he was chief the
morale of the police department sunk to an all time low . When he was Club
manager for the VFW he drove patrons away and put the club under with his piss
poor managerial skills.

Let us not forget both Lynn & Jaran so called devoted
their lives to public service. Please people I beg you don't make the  same
mistakes again and don't allow some one like him to take part in making
decisions for all of us!

RICHTER. ANDREWS. MARTIN.
11:06 am edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Candidates night will be shown on PTV tonight Easter Sunday at 5 pm for those of
you that have not got a chance to see it yet.
11:03 am edt 

Wayne Martin _ BoS Candidate

I will be doing a personal interview for PTV channel 18 this coming week also I
will be firming up the date for my Meet and Greet very soon which I will post.
Again I can be reached at 508 237 3486 until the election. In any case I will
try to do my best to serve the people of this town in any way I can.

I CAN'T CHANGE OUR DESTINATION BUT I CAN TRY TO CHANGE OUR COURSE.

11:00 am edt 

Provincetown Public Library

Jan Kelly is a member of the friends of the library group, I am sure
they can provide information about the missing murals.
10:58 am edt 

Re: Antics Annie

I Think Antics Annie Should Just Say Goodbye
Take your tent and fold it. Then say Goodbye. Silence is a godsent here. Stop
wagging that tongue.
10:56 am edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

I know several officers both police and EPO that have kept pets such as raccoons
foxes and skunks. The Truro Police continue to run me down, slander me and press
false charges because I make complaints about them. If anybody cares to see the
truth about my pet coyote I kept and loved for 8 and a half years they can look
on You Tube under Truro coyote or Truro Vixen. The picture the police posted was
after 14 strangers were scaring the hell out of her for hours so of course she
went the bath room in her coupe. I might ad the Rangers and EPO's that were
there refused to press any charges and all the TPD charges were thrown out.
After you watch the video then you can see what is being said about me are all
lies. You will notice the closer it gets to election day the more desperate they
and others will become to smear my name.

So if you want this town to continue to run like it has been for the last
several years and have a puppet in office who is just looking to benefit himself
and help out is so called newly acquired friends. By all means vote for Anthony
but if you want someone who is going to work for the people, listen to the
people and will never turn on his back on anybody voters and nonvoters alike
vote for me.

  I am going to have a meet and greet at the lobster pot soon so anybody that
has ANY questions at all please feel free to attend, I feel I must also add if
at any time the residents feel the I am not legitimately acting in the best
interest of the town I will bow out gracefully. I am doing this for all of us so
we can enjoy the time we are put on this Earth and so my supporters and non
supporters alike can live their lives without sweating the small stuff. But I am
still gonna leave the big decisions up to the tax payers cuz that's the way I
believe it should be.

PLEASE COME AND VOTE NO MATTER WHO YOUR CHOICES ARE
10:55 am edt 

Re: Wayne Martin is Honest and Upfront
 
If google never existed and you were new to town and went to the candidates
night then yes, Martin came off as a humble nice guy. But google his name. Ask
around. As other communities about him and of course, ask the police about him.
There is no way you could vote him in.
I watched the Candidates Night video and have to say Martin is so full of it.
Elect a TM and police chief? What? What town elects a police chief? And then
says he'd like the next TM and police chief to not have any connections to
anyone in the town. Tell us Wayne, how does that happen? Then he goes to tell us
of how he'd rebuild the police station at the same site as it stands now? He's
measured and talked to contractors? Who Wayne, tell us who. And he loves the
Seashore and what they have done over the years???                                        
                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                   

VOTE RICHTER /ANTHONY AND OF COURSE, ANDREWS.
10:51 am edt 

Re: FinCom

" Have you read the charter? Where does it restrict that, because you
know, it can't and it only defines how Fincom is to be comprised, but it can't
say anything much because the laws governing it are all State Law. I don't get
all this Fincom bashing because it's finally doing what it always was supposed
to."


ok so you are not a lawyer and really can't read the law.  if you can read, go
onto the town website and looks at the charter then post a quote here from the
charter that backs up your silliness.  Clarence refuses to post the charter on
the site.  It is very, very clear about the fincom duties.  Stae law has very
little to do with it.  Please quote chapter and verse.
10:45 am edt 

Saturday, April 19, 2014

Martin vs Anthony

Oh please you think Martin is better than Anthony. One man devoted his
life to public service and upholding the law while the other man devoted his to
                                    . You pick it.
12:40 pm edt 

Wayne Martin is Honest and Upfront

I don't think he has an agenda that would hurt anyone. I like his townie
openness and his frankness even about his own limits.
But it was a boring candidate's meeting. they drone on and on. Raphael Richter
was smart, informed and he at least kept me awake.
12:39 pm edt 

Re: What's Wrong Here?

I Don't See Anything Wrong Here

To answer your question. We are doing fine with the assistant town manager and
the acting police chief. The town is doing well and so much better than the two
they replaced. As for Antics Annie, she should grow up and accept adulthood and
its responsibilities.
12:37 pm edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

You must be joking that you think wayne martin is a good candidate. 
Google his name you will see pages of reasons why he should never be a town
selectman ..
10:09 am edt 

What's Wrong Here?

So this town has no chief of police, no town manager some very
questionable so called "townies" running for selectman and we are attacking
Jennifer Cabral,  does anyone else see what is wrong here ??????
10:07 am edt 

Re: Fincom

"Now these are not "violations" per se, only time consuming meddling and more
muddied waters by trying to expand it's powers to be coequal with the BOS and
manager."



Time consuming? Where? Did all the results at town meeting that Fincom brought
up get voted on exactly as recommended? Did you read the intro on the page you
posted about Fincom's actual role and responsibility? How about the NUMEROUS
times the State's Fincom booklet has been posted here where the words "watchog"
and "all financial matters" are used consistently? Have you read the charter?
Where does it restrict that, because you know, it can't and it only defines how
Fincom is to be comprised, but it can't say anything much because the laws
governing it are all State Law. I don't get all this Fincom bashing because it's
finally doing what it always was supposed to. I guess that's upsetting to people
at town hall who don't like to actually be public servants, but to the rest of
us, it's a breath of fresh air in the town. Let's all look to the new board of
selectmen and the Fincom to work together to make sure that our public servants
are that, and not a group just to themsel!
ves. Obviously, with the events of the past year, they need some greater
oversight.
9:27 am edt 

Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

Bobby Anthony is MUCH better than Wayne Martin.   I mean seriously who
can take the coyote man seriously.  He is a joke

9:24 am edt 

Candidates Night

ANTHONY SAID WHAT?

When the candidates were asked the question about checking on complaints from
renters. Anthony replied that the police should go door to door and prosecute
the landlords who they deemed had violations. This shows you the mentality of
this man and how he wants this town to live under the rule of the police.    
                                                                                                         
                                                                                                        
                                                                                                        

shut it down.

  PLEASE VOTE FOR NOBODY OR ANYBODY BUT HIM!
9:23 am edt 

Candidates Night

I was in attendance at the candidates night. I agree with the poster
who said we would be crazy to elect a former Police Chief to the BOS. The former
Chief used that as his claim to fame, and used the police platform much of the
time he spoke. If he gets elected we will have another Sharon Lynn. I think
WaYne Martin is far less of a threat to the year-round voters.
9:20 am edt 

Re: Jen Cabral

" Seven postings in Praise of Her"

Sounds like a great title for my next novel. Thanks!
9:18 am edt 

Friday, April 18, 2014

Re: Candidates Night

Thanks but I don't have a facebook account. Any other ways to view candidates
night online?
10:09 pm edt 

Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

The idea of a former police chief being elected as a selectman is
horrendous. Bobby Anthony will push a police agenda and didn't we just clean
house with getting rid of Lynn & Jaran??
Wake Up Folks!!
10:05 pm edt 

Good Friday

A solemn time, a spiritual time. this day offers the opportunity for deep
thought and reflection. Good Friday wishes to all.
10:03 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

Library mural issue, has been explained to the chairman of the BOS, so
we'll see where that goes...............
10:01 pm edt 

Re: Jen Cabral
 
Such Absolute Bull

Next you'll say you tried twenty postings that the webmaster did not post. This
is such bull.
Write your praise on a placard and stand in front of town hall. That will help
you get your private message out there Harry!
5:21 pm edt 

Re: Jen Cabral

Why do I Think that Your Seven postings in Praise of Her is Fabricated

I don't believe you did post seven praises and if you did, you should have tried
to post only one.

Another Candyland fantasy and attack. I'd also suggest that if your into
praising this woman, do it on your own blog! Have had it kid! On your time and
place. Let the honey drip on.
5:19 pm edt 

Candidates Night 5:15 pm edt 

Re: Police Station

Correction/Police station (old/new)

"I am sure the thought of where are the employees and police vehicles all gonna
park if housing units are hogging that parcel of land too. It has not seem to be
mentioned. At least not on this blog anyways. Where are other police vehicles
from other depts suppose to park if everyone keeps down sizing the vfw site ?
Which has been one of the lesser mentioned problems now at the current facility."



I WANTED TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE WORDING IN THE ABOVE PARAGRAPH. THE MORE I READ
IT, THE LESS SENSE THE FIRST PORTION OF IT DID NOT MAKE. Below is what I was
trying to say:

If you drive by or thru the current police station, you will see almost if not
all parking spaces are occupied. That is how many is needed at the new site
"But"...now you need to add x-amount more for when the dept has dept meetings
and when other police vehicles such as the Park Rangers or Truro police visit.
My point is, to add sufficient parking spaces, x-amount of land is needed.
Adding housing units to the rear of the VFW site will affect the outcome of
such. Just wanted to bring that to everyones attention to ponder.

Thanks again,

Roger Green
5:12 pm edt 

Wayne Martin - BoS Martin
 
FROM BOS CANDIDATE WAYNE MARTIN

Myself and my supporters are offering rides to the town hall on election day May
6 for all who need it. You can reach me at telephone number 617 366 9295 or 508
237 3486 please feel free to call anytime.
2:45 pm edt 

Candidates Night

There were more than 50 people who attended candadates night,not 30 as
someone posted. I am glad I went but Raphael was the only one that impressed me.
1:58 pm edt 

Candidates Night

Any link or way I can watch the meeting online?

Thanks
12:25 pm edt 

Re: Candidates Night

Probably the reason no one showed up for candidate night is because
the so called candidates running are a joke, bedsides Richter the rest are a
big joke,    So  sad our  town has come to this
12:16 pm edt 

Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

Please come;
Tonight, Friday, April 18th
MOVING PROVINCETOWN FOWARD
Meet the Candidate
Central House @ The Crown
5:30  7:00 pm Refreshments & Cash Bar

Bobby Anthony
12:13 pm edt 

Re: Candidates Night

Did anyone else that was watching the candidates last night notice
that everyone of the candidates stated what they did for a living except for
wayne Martin, why not ??

12:10 pm edt 

Re: Police Station

Recently I visited the new addition to Seashore Point this is a ad on with 38
apartments and a 50 spot parking garage with a cost of approx 9,000,000 dollars.
If you go buy there you will see that it is one hell of a big structure. How is
it that our police need anything close to that size maybe one quarter is more
like it. Like I said before I am all for giving them a new station one that
meets all state requirements. It has been brought up at Town meetings several
times that in order to have a professional police department the need a new
station. I don't know what one has to do with the other professionalism is in
how they act and how they treat the public not how nice of a station they have
you can be an act like a professional working from an Outhouse.

LETS HAVE A CHIEF THAT TREATS EVERYBODY WITH THE SAME RESPECT AS HE WANTS TO BE
TREATED WITH FOR A CHANGE!!!
12:08 pm edt 

Re: Candidates Night

All the complaints here and on the voice etc. Maybe 30 people showed
for "Candidates Night" . One person in the audience cheered for his cousin like
he was scoring a basket in a gym. No one was very impressive except for Cheryl.
What else can we expect after we treated so many so poorly. And I think 10 of
the 30 showed up for the free pizza.
11:43 am edt 

BoS Candidates - Robert Anthony vs Wayne Martin

Not sure who is the lesser of two evils but my guess is bobby Anthony,
wayne is a joke.

11:41 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

OLD MURALS STORED IN THE SHED BEHIND THE LIBRARY.

THE STORY I HEARD IS THAT A MEMBER OF THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY CONTACTED THE
ARTIST, WHO WAS PAID TO DO THE MURALS FOR THE OLD HERITAGE MUSEUM.  HE DID NOT
WANT TO SEE THE ARTWORK REUSED AND WITH HER HELP, CAME WITH A TRUCK AND REMOVED
THE ARTWORK, DURING THE DAY, IN PLAIN SIGHT, AND BROUGHT IT HOME TO DESTROY IT.

I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT NO ONE WIL FESS US, WHAT THE HECK IS THIS THE GARDNER
MUSEUM. THE FACT IS, TOWN PROPERTY, PAID FOR, IS MISSING.  AND NO ONE AT THE
LIBRARY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT.  WHAT IS THE JOB OF THE TRUSTEES!!!!!!!!!!!!

11:38 am edt 

Carlson's Allegations Are Only That

Allegations and I am not sure he went to the Attorney General. So until that
allegation is proven right--there is nothing against FinCom.

But you might find that there is something against Carlson.
11:36 am edt 

Question to BoS Candidates

I was going to ask this question tonight of the candidates for
Selectman, specifically, former police chief Anthony. However, the thought of
speaking in public was too much for me, so I chickened out. :-(  But I think
that is important enough to ask; here it is.

Provincetown is in the midst of a drug epidemic, along with the rest of the Cape
and much of the country. As a former police chief, I am certain that you are
aware that this has been an ongoing problem in Provincetown for many years. It
is especially widespread in the Summer with a wide variety of drugs being
readily available in many of our bars and nightclubs. However, few, if any,
arrests are made of any significance. Many feel that this lack of enforcement is
due to fears that drug arrests would reduce the number of visitors for whom drug
use is one reason they come to visit and enjoy the night life. Fewer patrons
would impact not only the owners of said bars and nightclubs, but the Town's
economy as well.

Given the preceding, what SPECIFIC steps would you, as a Selectman (other than
vague references to Community Policing), take to combat the continuing and
growing Drug Epidemic which has plagued our Town for so many years?

I would welcome answers from Mr. Anthony as well as the other Candidates for
Selectman.

Thank you.

Richard Faust
11:34 am edt 

Candidates Night

I just watched the candidate meeting on tv all I can say is if these
people get elected we are In big trouble
11:23 am edt 

Re: Police Station

It is great that we both agree that we don't need to spend that much money on a
police station. Now if you can explain to me how as it stands right now how you
can get access to behind the police station without going right along side of
it. That just wont work no way no how that will never happen.  Do you or anybody
know how we are supposed to utilize the remaining property with out a feasible
right away to get to it as it stands right now.

DO TELL!!!
11:22 am edt 

Re: Jen Cabral

I've written at least 7 comments in support of Ms. Cabral and the
editor if this blog has chosen not to print one. But the utterly rude and
demeaning comments are published with speed and obvious mirth. That is not
civility, it is censorship.
11:20 am edt 

Re: Sale of Grace Gouveia

Mr. Bowen wrote an eloquent letter regarding the sale of Grace
Gouveia.  We wonder if he would raise the same objections if his agency was
getting the commission for the transaction.  It is our understanding that this
was the only offer made for the GG building.  No objections were raised at any
of the Public Hearings regarding the offer.why now?  Can the town EVER make a
decision, stick to it and then move forward?
11:19 am edt 

Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

Please come;
Tonight, Friday, April 18th
MOVING PROVINCETOWN FOWARD
Meet the Candidate
Central House @ The Crown
5:30 – 7:00 pm Refreshments & Cash Bar
11:15 am edt 

Thursday, April 17, 2014

Police Station/Old or New

I really can't for the life of me think how anyone truly and really thinks 7
million dollars for a new police station is too much money. To the best of my
knowledge there is not a police station between Provincetown and Bourne that has
been built for significantly less. Everyone wants a professional police dept but
yet you want them to operate out of a shoe box.

The VFW is a good site and I personally am against any other structure or
structures un-related to the police facilty being included on the same property.
If for some reason the police need to expand, they won't be able to because
there are housing untis abutting their back yard.

I am sure the thought of where are the employees and police vehicles all gonna
park if housing units are hogging that parcel of land too. It has not seem to be
mentioned. At least not on this blog anyways. Where are other police vehicles
from other depts suppose to park if everyone keeps down sizing the vfw site ?
Which has been one of the lesser mentioned problems now at the current facility.

The police station went from a basement location to a once upon a time funeral
home and now for the first time, they are asking for a new one, (a request many
of you may not live long enough to see the police ask for another again), and
it's sad what people like myself and others read here. I understand how some
don't want a donald trump plaza but if you don't build for now, then don't cry
wolf if the police in 10 or 20 years come back asking for a bigger facility.

Turning the VFW site into a police station gives them the space they are
starving for now, the parking they also need, and on and on the list goes
including a proper room to interrogate someone without worrying about if someone
in the lobby is listening as is the case now. I was the janitor at the current
location for 26 years and the police have out grown the building. It has many
other issues as well. Remolding it, will only be a bandaid fix.

If a neighbor of your builds or remodels a house next door to yours, I believe
it affects your property taxes. I never hear anyone moan and groan about that or
at least I never hear anyone go and tell that neighbor to move some place else
because your taxes can't afford him living next door but build a new police
station and holy mackrel. I am sure someone will not agree with anything I said
here but for the price of a stamp, let it rip I say.

Thank you
Roger Green

11:29 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

"OMG can't we be nice?"


Why would you want to protect people who steal? What's this world coming to? Good grief.
11:06 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

"What a curious statement! Can you please explain to all of us the
exact ways in which Fincom isn't complying with the charter? How did those
parking warrants go? OPEB? I'm really interested in hearing about the exact
violations so please explain in detail."


I am not so sure where you read that the FinCom was violating anything.  That
makes it sound like they are a bunch of thugs, which they most certainly are
not.  The FinCom refers to itself as the "watchdog" of the town finances.  IT IS
NOT.  It has a very narrowly defined role, but the Chair is regularly showing
interest in conducting investigations into alleged wrongdoing in all facets of
town government. The FinCom, as a government body, has no business at all
involving itself in anything other than the reserve fund and finance related
articles before town meeting.  They can also work with the town manager to move
accounts from one to another at certain times.  That is it.  Nothing to do with
financial mismanagement at the pier or anywhere else.

Now these are not "violations" per se, only time consuming meddling and more
muddied waters by trying to expand it's powers to be coequal with the BOS and
manager.

Please be sure that you do not take the FinCom handbook to be anything like a
law.  It is not.  The Charter is the law for PT.
11:03 pm edt 

Re: FinCom

You asked   "I'm really interested in hearing about the exact [FINCOM]
violations so please explain in detail."


How about violating open meeting laws for starters.  As for details, I guess
you'll have to wait until the current complaint is adjudicated for your details.
11:37 am edt 

Re: FinCom

"authority and the advisory role of volunteer groups."  Perhaps the FinCom can
read and be made to understand this.  They are a volunteer advisory group that
can't seem to understand their role according to the charter."



What a curious statement! Can you please explain to all of us the exact ways in
which Fincom isn't complying with the charter? How did those parking warrants
go? OPEB? I'm really interested in hearing about the exact violations so please
explain in detail.
11:20 am edt 

Re: Police Station

Just to be clear: at town meeting the BOS and FinCom spoke about how
cost prohibitive it would be to relocate the police while trying to build on the
stations current site. Barbara Rushmore's amendment doesnt bar the town from
using the VFW as a Location. It just took out the wording "for a police station"
out of the article, not to ban it.  Also while I think the station should move I
in no way think we should be spending 7 million on it! That is crazy.  One more
thing: the town could still build some smaller more affordable house on the VFW
property as well as the police station.  The old location on shank painter could
be sold for additional revenue for to town. I think there an be a proper
compromise here...
10:54 am edt 

Provincetown Banner Obituary: Dee Kennedy

Diane Kennedy, 75

Diane “Dee” (Wagner) Kennedy, 75, of Vieques, Puerto Rico, died suddenly of a brain aneurysm in her home on March 29, 2014.

Ms. Kennedy, who spent much time in Provincetown over the years, earned her BA at Michigan State University with a major in art education. Her master’s of arts was awarded from Antioch University, where she specialized in media and education. Ms. Kennedy also studied drawing, painting and sculpture at Mexico City College (now the University of Mexico), the Art Students League in New York City, the DeCordova Museum Art School in Lincoln, and the Provincetown Art Association & Museum School.

She taught drawing, painting and sculpture at Waltham Junior and Senior High Schools until her retirement in the late 1980s. She painted and spent many summers in Gloucester, Key West, Puerto Rico and Provincetown. Her sculpture is included in the permanent collection of the Provincetown Museum, and in many private collections in the U.S. and abroad.

She is responsible for saving many of the older oak trees that line the streets on the south side of Waltham, and was involved in the Charles River Clean-up Project.

She is survived by Charles Kennedy of Vieques, and her sister, Carol Wagner of Vermont. She touched the lives of so many and will be greatly missed by friends, family and former students.

A celebration of Ms. Kennedy’s life is planned in Provincetown in the late summer. Memorial donations can be made to: CASAS, P.O. Box 1374, Provincetown, MA 02657 or the AIDS Support Group of Cape Cod, P.O. Box 1522, Provincetown, MA 02657.
10:31 am edt 

Banner Letter to Editor:

Community center sale qualms

To the editors: We are writing to voice our deep reservations about a proposed development plan (“Provincetown lays out restrictions on community center sale,” Banner, March 27, 2014). The community center is adjacent to a high-traffic bike rental shop and near a high-traffic local gym in a residential neighborhood where we own homes.

The original plan is for the local bike rental proprietor to buy the community center for $550,000 and use one quarter of the space for bike storage. Town officials’ counteroffer is for Mr. Bill Meadows to purchase the entire community center, appraised in 2011 at $1.1 million, for $550,000 under a 20-year deed. The difference between the market price of the community center and $550,000 is Provincetown’s subsidy [as long as it is kept as dormitory-style housing for seasonal workers].

We believe that the 20-year deed required for such a plan can fail in so many ways, to the detriment of all parties involved. In the event of failure, it will drain Provincetown’s resources (police, fire, medical, etc.) and possibly damage its tourism reputation.

We are perplexed why Provincetown would subsidize such a high-risk, low-reward plan that is not consistent with the town’s vision.

Provincetown’s Local Comprehensive Plan mandates attention to growth limits in a village development pattern that protects Provincetown’s history, resources, community character and diversity in residents while maximizing use of its limited acreage, its year-round economy and earning opportunities for its long-term residents — not seasonal workers.

The plan seems to be a priority level 5 development (the lowest), in a residential neighborhood that could only be allowed under a very loose interpretation of the “Neighborhood Retail Sales and Services” variance. To allow such variance, the plan must be “compatible and contribute to overall quality of life of residents.”

The plan seems to have the same (or better) market incentives for a priority level 1 (affordable housing) plan, which must be deed restricted for 40 years, and below-market loans to private developers can be made only if such developers have “experience developing and managing market rate housing.” From Mr. Meadows’ remarks, it seems clear he doesn’t have this experience.

The only way for the plan to not devolve into an “Animal

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House,” is to ensure that the 49 seasonal workers per year to be on their best behavior at the dormitory, at all times, every year for 20 years.

Mr. Meadows has an in-season full-time business and is genuinely concerned that the plan’s other use may turn into an “Animal House” that would hasten his default. Liability insurance for such a dormitory would be expensive and any serious infraction would make insurance prohibitive thereafter.

Provincetown is a prime tourist destination and has a fun party atmosphere during high season. The problem is when the partying happens at a dormitory where people with different personality types, schedules and agendas, are already living in cramped spaces.

The nuisance parade could range from smoking, drinking, substance abuse, violence, loitering, unsanitary conditions, intolerable noise to crime.

Residents in the neighborhood affected, with high-traffic commercial use developments (the bike rental place and the gym), would now have to deal with this planned dormitory. It is unfair that these residents suffer nuisance that will affect the quality of their lives and that will result in financial harm from the devaluation of their homes.

For many of Provincetown’s residents, their home is their primary asset. Those who are looking to sell their property within 20 years, or are relying on a reverse mortgage to fund their retirement, are probably horrified by this plan.

It is for these reasons that the plan would not be compatible or will reduce the quality of life of residents of the neighborhood and of Provincetown. The only upside is for Mr. Meadows, subject to an unusually high hurdle that nothing goes wrong for 20 years, and for seasonal workers (and their employers) who are not prioritized by the LCP.

The 50 percent subsidy — appropriate for affordable housing, per the LCP — is, quite frankly, a waste of taxpayer money on this high-risk, low-reward plan that does not achieve any of the goals in the town’s vision contained in the LCP.

The current plan with many potential “we told you so” problems begs the question why Provincetown’s officials are rushing to make it happen. They should ask themselves why the community center can’t remain in its current use until a better plan comes along. They could, just as easily, rent some space of the community center to Mr. Meadows for his intended plan.

Michael Cooper, M.S., Hakan Sjoo, Ronald Stein, M.D., Peter Brox Provincetown
10:25 am edt 

Banner Letter to Editor:

More thought needed on Gouveia building sale

To the editor: I was interested to hear that a Boston developer has been awarded the Grace Gouveia for a mixed-use development (six luxury units and three affordable units). While I do not know the man personally, I have heard nothing but praise for his work.

But the Gouveia building is an important part of the town’s fabric, dutifully supported over the decades by the taxpayers of Provincetown. It is sad to me that we have not been able to conceive a more creative disposition of the building.

Do we need more luxury condominiums in town? Probably not: private developers are doing a splendid job catering to that need. Do we need more affordable rental housing or purchase opportunities for locals? The question answers itself.

Conversion of the building to predominantly luxury condominiums hardly seems an appropriate tribute to Grace Gouveia. Nor, I would humbly suggest, does it speak well for the board of selectmen’s stewardship of the patrimony of the town or the local residents who are its constituents.

I’ve surveyed all sales of multi-unit properties since 2007, all renovated as condominiums: predominantly three- or four-unit buildings, but one with six units. Purchase prices for these buildings ranged from a minimum of $760,000 to a maximum of $ 1 million (all half or less the size of the Gouveia building). The average price per building was $868,000.

I also calculated average price per square foot of each building, and average price per unit. The lowest anyone paid per square foot was $260; the highest was $565. The average was $378. The median price per square foot is $358.

At a proposed sale price of $1,050,000, 26 Alden St. (8,520 sq. ft.) is being sold for $123 a square foot.

Price per developable unit of the sold properties ranged from a low of $ 156,000 to a high of $291,000. The average price per unit for sold properties was $235,000; the median was also $235,000.

At a purchase price of $1,050,000, 26 Alden St.’s acquisition price per unit is $117,000. If the affordable units are discounted, average acquisition price per developable unit is $175,000, well below what market- oriented developers are paying.

I realize this “quick and dirty” overview is hardly conclusive, but I hope it gives reason for a more careful consideration of the sale of the Grace Gouveia property.

Len Bowen Provincetown
10:23 am edt 

Provincetown Banner
 
Town violated bidding laws, says state

By Ann Wood BANNER STAFF

PROVINCETOWN — The town violated public bidding laws when it accepted Air Cleaning Specialists of New England’s bid for a vehicle exhaust evacuation system for the fire station despite the fact that ACS failed to provide a bid bond with its original proposal, the state Office of the Attorney General determined on Oct. 9, 2013. Instead, ACS provided the town with a copy of the bond immediately after the bid was opened.

“This places a noncompliant bidder at a competitive advantage over other compliant bidders, since he can wiggle out of his bid after seeing his competitors’ bids at the bid opening or after having a change of heart about his bid,” Deborah A. Anderson, assistant attorney general, wrote in her findings. “I conclude that the town was required to reject the bid submitted by ACS. It had no discretion to accept the bid without contemporaneously submitted bid security.”

The town is looking to use nearly $60,000 in Federal Emergency Management funds it accepted on Jan. 23, 2013 for a system that would capture vehicle exhaust in the main fire station in town. The estimated cost for the project was about $63,000, and the FEMA grant requires that the town fund 5 percent of it, or about $3,000. ACS was the low bidder at $39,815 and Murphy Specialty Inc., which contested the town’s contract with the low bidder, came in at $45,100.

The town was represented at a bid protest hearing at the Attorney General’s Office last week by town counsel and Deputy Fire Chief Jimmy Roderick, said David Gardner, acting town manager, by e-mail Monday.

“I have no comment on the bid protest, as this project is ongoing now for over a year, we will wait to see what the AG’s Office says,” Gardner wrote. “No exhaust system has been installed to date. We have not awarded the project and are seeking to rebid. The FEMA grant has been extended until September, I believe.”

Murphy Specialty has filed 16 similar protests across the state between 2007 and 2014, eight of which were allowed by the Attorney General’s Office. One of the protests that was allowed was made against Truro back in 2011 after it choose ACS to work on an exhaust project even though the company did not submit required drawings along with its bid.

The Banner previously reported that the Office of the Attorney General and Mass. Superior Court found Provincetown at fault on Oct. 11 for not putting out to bid a feasibility study for its high school renovation project and for further hiring a firm that appeared to have less experience than was required by its own Request For Qualifications.
10:15 am edt 

Provincetown Banner

Neighbors hostile toward dorm-style housing

By Ann Wood BANNER STAFF

PROVINCETOWN — Liza Judge was “blindsided,” she said, when she read that the former community center, which directly abuts the home that her family built back in 1840, is on its way to becoming dormitory-style housing for seasonal workers.

“Although the regulations may not require the board to notify us of meetings where the future of the community center will be discussed, we are outraged that such consideration was not afforded to us and were blindsided by your oversight,” she told the selectmen during the public comments portion of Monday’s board meeting. “We realize that the community center is a remnant of the past and that the building’s use must change, but a dormitory and hostel for 50 people is quite another animal.”

This comes following a March 24 meeting at which the board of selectmen agreed to enter into negotiations with P’town Bikes owner Bill Meadows, who offered the town $550,000 for the Bradford Street property at which he wishes to store bikes and create a 49-bed dormitoryand hostel-style housing. Because his offer is drastically lower than the 2011 appraisal of $1.1 million, the board may subsidize the sale with an interestfree mortgage that will be forgiven every year that the building is used as employee housing.

Judge, however, says that the proposed use will take a toll on neighbors.

“Where a dozen cars now park, where will 25 to 50 cars park? Where will trash generated by 50 people be collected and stored until disposal? Where will pets be kept and curbed? Where will these dormers- hostellers smoke or have their morning cup of coffee, a private conversation, light a grill or have a drink? The answer is what it always has been for all past and present users of the building — outdoors — in the front courtyard or in the rear of the building,” she said.

Judge wasn’t the only one who stood up against the proposal. Resident Linda Ersoy said she believes that Meadows’ plan benefits one person — him.

“I firmly believe that the town wants to sell this property and although it sounds like a great plan in helping [with] the housing problems in Provincetown … I’m convinced that Mr. Meadows has his own agenda by using and taking advantage of the town and the town’s people,” she told the selectmen.

Though the selectmen don’t respond to public comments, when it came time for their own, Selectman Erik Yingling said that seasonal housing is vital. Summer employees often pay top dollar to live in squalor, he said, and added that he finds it immoral.

“People working here and serving in town deserve affordable housing, and anything else is wrong,” Yingling said.

Following the meeting, Ersoy provided the Banner with two additional letters of protest and said she has more at home. One is a letter, previously published in the Banner, penned by John Yandrisovitz, and another is by Ethel Roderick, who lives directly across the street from the community center. Roderick wrote that tenants would cause an overflow of the available parking and noise, and crime would ensue.

“Mr. Meadows’ idea to provide a lawn and sitting area will only add to the noise, especially at night. Police activity is bound to ramp up,” Roderick wrote.

Judge agrees.

“Such a ballooning use of the building would surely impose an intrusive, weighty and obnoxious burden on our family and our neighbors,” she said. “We strongly object to this use concept and intend to defend our heritage and interests.”
10:11 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

"The missing art work is a serious problem. The librarian has the
custodial responsibility of everything in her jurisdiction . No volunteer  group
has any decisional power! Their powerless advisory position should never have
been accepted into the librarian's 'decision' to allow 'strangers' to walk away
with any part Ptowns heritage!!!!!! This gross incompetence is totally
unacceptable! Let's stay focused. The librarian should meet with the police and
request an immediate investigation to apprehend the thieves. Don't allow the
incompetent librarian to muddy the waters by implicating 'the so called volunteer group'.
After the librarian has taken action to recover our precious art works, the
librarian's supervisor can instruct her in her responsibilities. I understand
that we have antique books in our library. Has she inventoried these books? As
part of the librarian's training, the librarian can be made aware of the
difference
between decision authority and the advisory role of volunteer
groups."

Good grief!! Stop with the overly dramatic hysteria. "precious artwork".
"powerless advisory position".  "ptowns heritage" .  "so called volunteer
group".  Not "so called" reality.  What if a couple of bad guys show up with
guns and steal  all kinds of stuff from the library.  Would you scream for her
head because she didn't take bullet for a computer?   What about adding a little
more hyperbole.

I love this part, "can be made aware of the difference between decision
authority and the advisory role of volunteer groups."  Perhaps the FinCom can
read and be made to understand this.  They are a volunteer advisory group that
can't seem to understand their role according to the charter.
10:07 am edt 

Re: Sharon Lynn

"Ohhhh so wrong you are. Sharon Lynn is not behind us. She will be
required to be cross examined in at least 2 lawsuits currently facing the town.
Do not be so quick to dismiss her ill doings."


Yes she is behind us.  The possibility of her testifying in a lawsuit has
nothing to do with the current operation of the management of the town.  She can
only testify about the past and can not make any decisions about managing the
town now.  get over it.  There is a very, very high probability that the
lawsuits will never reach the point of requiring anyone to testify.  These
things rarely do.  The parties usually want to move on. So, there is quite a
good chance that ms. Lynn is out of here forever.  Find somebody else to get
angry at.  It didn't work with Carlson.  The Library might be a good target, but
you never know.  It is possible to store all your anger for the hiring of the
new town manager since you are sure to find plenty of fault there.
10:00 am edt 

My Observations

Walking down Commercial Street and grocery shopping at Stop and Shop I
notice there are mostly older gay men and women these days. Why do we spend so
much time and money focusing on the school in Provincetown? Time to spend the
money maybe fixing the streets or building a new police station. Someone should
just open up a nice day care facility in this town and get rid of the nonsense
that occurs in that school.
9:58 am edt 

Re: Police Station

I don't care and it does not matter what the banner reported. The people shot
down the building of a new police station at the last meeting it was voted on
because of the ridiculous amount of money they want to spend to build it.
Further more that when the people are reminded that the VFW location can be
utilized for many other things that will bring in revenue to the town instead of
raising our taxes we will see how they vote.

Let me see three million to put a new one where it is now and make money hand
over fist at the VFW location in parking or housing or spend six to seven
million to build it at the VFW losing out on future revenue that site would
bring for years to come if used for something else that makes sense. Let me ask
you a question has any Town official gone and talked to the abutters of the VFW
property about potential problems or lawsuits? I have talked to two of them and
they are dead set against it. Need I remind you that when the temp Town hall was
in the parking lot across the street there was constant gripes by the neighbors!

   AGAIN GIVE US SOME CREDIT!!!
9:57 am edt 

Provincetown Public Library

The library stolen art story is puzzling. The trustees meeting minutes
said something like "it was determined that the Friends of the Library were
responsible but they would not admit it."   How was it determined who was
guilty?  Why is this very detailed accounting of a "theft" appearing in the
trustees minutes? Nothing in the library minutes is ever detailed. This looks
like someone's trying to cover their a-s.  Why was valuable town-owned art being
stored in that old cinder block shack anyway?  It looks like the Friend are
being set up to take the fall. Do you know who the "Friends" really are?  They
are a small group of mostly seniors who have been raising money for the library
for over 30'years. I won't name names, but they are all active trustworthy well
known townspeople.  More good people being taken down by the                  
        .
9:50 am edt 

Police Station

How can we have the police station at the VFW if town meeting voted to purchase
that property providing the police station was not in that location. When that
article came up at town meeting it was amended by Barbara Rushmore to exclude
the station and that is how the article passed. Don't we need to bring it back
before the voters again in order to have it in the VFW spot? That's how I
remembered voting for it.
9:46 am edt 

Wednesday, April 16, 2014

Jen Cabral

Jennifer Cabral is not as smart as she thinks she is. Her
baloney is catching up to her!
11:55 pm edt 

Mark Hatch - FinCom

Well it seems someone doesn't like the way he participated in the recent charter
vote! The entertaining thing to watch will be Jennifer Cabral and company make
even bigger fools of themselves trying to bash him yet again. How about we all
give people who volunteer their time to help this town a chance before we start
slinging the horseshit at them? Why it seemed just a couple of weeks ago Mike
Canizales was the problem, how did that work out? Then it's the poorly written
diatribe about Clarence (again) and now Hatch? You people never give up!
11:54 pm edt 

Re: Sharon Lynn

"Hey you with the PTSSD (Post Traumatic Sharon Stress Disorder).  The
first step to recovery is to stop exposing yourself to stress triggers.  In
other words  stop reading and posting on this blog.  It's like a soldier
returning home from the front with PTSD and watching war movies over and over.
It ain't helping any.

Sharon is gone now it is time to put her behind you.  Take a couple pills the
doctor gave you.  Delete this blog's bookmark from your browser.  Put away the
computer.  Get outside and enjoy the improving weather.  God helps those who
help themselves after all."



Ohhhh so wrong you are. Sharon Lynn is not behind us. She will be required to be
cross examined in at least 2 lawsuits currently facing the town. Do not be so
quick to dismiss her ill doings.
11:52 pm edt 

Provincetown Public Library

The missing art work is a serious problem. The librarian has the custodial
responsibility of everything in her jurisdiction . No volunteer  group has any
decisional power! Their powerless advisory position should never have been
accepted into the librarian's 'decision' to allow 'strangers' to walk away with
any part Ptowns heritage!!!!!! This gross incompetence is totally unacceptable!
Let's stay focused. The librarian should meet with the police and request an
immediate investigation to apprehend the thieves. Don't allow the incompetent
librarian to muddy the waters by implicating 'the so called volunteer group'.
After the librarian has taken action to recover our precious art works, the
librarian's supervisor can instruct her in her responsibilities. I understand
that we have antique books in our library. Has she inventoried these books? As
part of the librarian's training, the librarian can be made aware of the
difference between decision authority and the advisory role o!
f volunteer groups.
11:50 pm edt 

Candy Land

To the person who keeps posting the "Candy Land" comments.. What the
hell are you talking about?!  Stop writing in code and just say exactly what you
mean!
11:48 pm edt 

As Quoted in the Banner:

"The board of selectmen, finance committee and building committee all said that
they did not recommend funding a feasibility study for a police station at Shank
Painter Road to the tune of $45,300. A study had been placed on the warrant so
that the townspeople could see that rebuilding the station at its current
location would be prohibitively expensive and difficult. But Donegan said that
the consensus is that the site of the former VFW on Jerome Smith Road is best."

"We do not believe it is worth spending public funds to evaluate another site or
tell us what we already know",
he said.

Duane Steele spoke against the article on behalf of the Fin-Com, and the motion
failed, with only a few hands popping up in favor of the study.

This sounds to me like the town is ready to move on and build the Police Station
at the VFW regardless of plans at town Hall that still put the station in its
current local.  So I say again to those who still want the station on Shank
Painter..

YOU LOST!  MOVE ON!
11:43 pm edt 

Mark Hatch - FinCom

Hearing that Mark Hatch is begging town moderator to be appointed to
FinCom.  That would be entertaining to watch.  Mike & Hatch talking non-stop. 
No one else would get a word in.

I rather  see someone with a little more knowledge of the town, he's only been a
registered voter since October, but for entertainment value he can't be beat.
6:10 pm edt 

Re: Town Meeting

"Why wasn't it shown live by PTV? Who made that decision. some who
couldn't be there would have wanted to view three nights of town Meeting."




We made the decision not to carry it live because it would be difficult to get a
quorum if people could watch it at home.
Tom D.
3:34 pm edt 

Provincetown School System

To brag about students in Provincetown being at level 2 is sad,
especially considering the amount of money being spent. Again it's time for a
change. Grow a pair school committee and get rid of the current administration.
3:32 pm edt 

Provincetown School System

International Baccaluarate! Please!

It would be hard to be Cape cod certified. Or even Provincetown certified.
International? Please--don't make me laugh.
It's a sad school that is trying to hand on because of administrative
positions--not the children and not the best teaching. Please, this is tragic
and it is over. the school is over and let's not live in fantasy land. the days
of being anything more than piss and shit are over. they bring in the diapers so
they can claim "students." the school system died and it is sad remnants left.

Once3 Beth Singer got her money, did you notice: she cleared out of town meeting
and was not seen again. Strip us clean, Beth but what are you giving us? New b
ricks and mortar but not real intelligence, not actual dynamic teachers. It is
below parr and expensive and yet the monies are going to secretaries and not to
students. so clean those diapers and clean their baby asses. that is all this is
at $3.6 million a year. A travesty called a school system.
3:28 pm edt 

From the Library Trustees Minutes of February

". . . Mr. Rudd mentioned the disappearance of the murals commissioned by
Josephine Del Deo as part of the Rose Dorothea exhibit in the Heritage Museum.
They had previously
been wrapped in plastic in the cinder block building next to the library. This
loss was discovered recently when Mr. Rudd needed a photo before his meeting to
get the murals officially accepted by the Town Art Commission and found they
were not there.  The disappearance was traced back to the Friends of the
Library, though no one has
admitted it. The story seems to be that the Friends of the Library started
spreading the word that the murals were unwanted and some young people came and
took them
away in a truck.

Mr. Rudd was very upset and clarified with Ms. Napsha that no one seems to know
where the murals went. He wanted to contact the Friends of the Library directly.
Mr. Rudd is especially concerned by this disappearance, considering the murals
were town property. He wants the Friends of the Library to come in and make a
report to the Board
of Library Trustees on the matter. Ms. Napsha stated that she had talked to the
people responsible and they would not admit it. Mr. Rudd reiterated that they
needed to be
reprimanded for removing public property without permission, which is a crime.
Ms. Venden agreed that it needs to be on public record, therefore the Friends of
the Library need to come to a meeting to say what they do and do not know. Ms.
Kratz agreed with the other Board of Library Trustee members that the issue
should go on the next agenda. Mr. Rudd noted that the murals disappeared last
summer."

STRANGE.

12:50 pm edt 

Provincetown School System

Whoever wrote about our provincetown schools is extremely ignorant
about them.  We are now International BAccauleate certified and are a MCAS level
two school the same as our neighbors in truro, Wellfleet and up the cape.  So
please check your facts before just writing nonsense
11:33 am edt 

I Consider MaryJo Avellar a Very Good Moderator

She keeps everything in line and knows everyone and is fair. She did good work
at this town meeting. this is not an easy job but she it did quite well. Bravo
10:57 am edt 

Overall, a Good Town Meeting

It went quite well and we can be proud of how everyne handled so many issues.
there was one exception at the end of the meeting and Mark Weinress did
embarrass us all. How petty he acted. and the Planning Board tried to ram this
down our throats. But other than the end of the meeting, it was a good gathering
and many people were there.

I have one question:
Why wasn't it shown live by PTV? Who made that decision. some who couldn't be
there would have wanted to view three nights of town Meeting.
10:54 am edt 

Provincetown Public Library

Has anyone else seen the Feb minutes recently posted by the library
trustees?  Holy cow. What's going on?  Crime , art theft, accusations. Why
hasn't any of this been in the Banner?
10:53 am edt 

Personalized Attacks

"We don't stick our tongues out along Commercial Street when we see
someone we don't like; and we don't make faces in a restaurant when we see
someone who is not a friend."



I have no axes to grind with anybody that it was claimed to be involved with
this silliness.  However, This site is rife with all kinds of mindless, hateful
claims against anyone perceived as an "enemy".  Why do all the people not
directly involved care about what may or may not have happened?  It is Junior
High School stuff to denigrate others. Does this accusation, and that is all it
is, make a difference?  No, it does not.  It adds to the reduction in
credibility of all the personalized attacks that are the modus operandi of too
many posters.
9:45 am edt 

Provincetown School System

Serious consideration should be given to changing the management of
the school system in Provincetown. The test scores for it's students are
extremely poor, spending is off the hook and Beth Singer is a very poor manager
of funds. Let's start fresh and clean house.
9:36 am edt 

Tuesday, April 15, 2014

We do Have Social Expectations and Rules of Etiquette and Comportment
 
I know comportment is on old word but it does mean that we maintain rules of how
to behave socially and how we act in public. What faces we make in our own
mirrors is surely our own business. But making faces in public when we are at an
establishment would not be permitted by unruly children. We don't stick our
tongues out along Commercial Street when we see someone we don't like; and we
don't make faces in a restaurant when we see someone who is not a friend.
Society does require and demand a certain level of civility.

This is Civility 101 and it is hard to believe that we need to restate this rule
now and for adults.
10:14 pm edt 

Police Station

I think your confused the vote was to spend more money on designs not where the
location would be. Once again some one trying to misinform the public. There are
already plans for the police station in its current location at the town hall.
Just not the enormous one they want with all the luxuries and frills that they
don't need.

KEEP TRYING!!!
10:03 pm edt 

Bad Carma

What goes around comes around J. Cabral! How does it feel being on the
receiving end for a change? You and your big       can dish it out but ya
certainly can't take it, can you?        ,    !
9:53 pm edt 

Re: Just Keep Your Tongue in Your Mouth

Just so I can understand this - why is it important how one person
stares, or glare, or smiles, or laughs, at another anywhere around town?
If a person goes to an establishment, and chooses to, according to you spend his
or her time and money as a customer, and glaring at someone while in the
establishment, that his or her business.
9:50 pm edt 

Just Keep Your tongue in Your mouth

And you will be better received in restaurants. Stop making faces and maybe then
people will start to respect you.
9:49 pm edt 

Brian Was arrogant and Empowered

And he believed he could do what he wanted and--get away with it. but he did
not. He was forced to have his application reviewed by the town of Truro after
he tried to have it done surreptiously in his own office. He was c aught and
that is why the town had Truro handle his application.

Illegal? Aren't we all taking the conflict of Interests test and the Ethics
test? Read on and see what the conflict of interest is in Carlson's case.

9:48 pm edt 

Re: Jen Cabral

Perhaps Jennifer Cabral is a        too.
9:47 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

"Do I think he should have signed the application?  No."


ok, then who should have signed it?
8:10 pm edt 

Re: Jan Cabral

Poor, poor Jen Cabral.  Just listen to her complaining about this blog
on FaceBook.  She and Andrea Kane saying that people are being character
assassinated on here, yet NO DOUBT they did the very same thing to others. 
Glass houses for sure.  wah, wah, wah.  Jen Cabral and Andrea Kane bashing
Clarence.  Gee, at least Clarence had a real CAREER.  Let's see, what does Jen
and Andrea do??? LOL!!!
8:08 pm edt 

Re: Sharon Lynn

Hey you with the PTSSD (Post Traumatic Sharon Stress Disorder).  The
first step to recovery is to stop exposing yourself to stress triggers.  In
other words  stop reading and posting on this blog.  It's like a soldier
returning home from the front with PTSD and watching war movies over and over. 
It ain't helping any.

Sharon is gone now it is time to put her behind you.  Take a couple pills the
doctor gave you.  Delete this blog's bookmark from your browser.  Put away the
computer.  Get outside and enjoy the improving weather.  God helps those who
help themselves after all.
7:46 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

"I can't believe I have to say this but here's what he does...he walks
into the town manager's office and says "hey I want to add a bedroom onto the
property..."


I can't believe you ARE saying it because you surely were not there and this is
pure bulldiddly on your part. Speculation resulting in slander.
5:39 pm edt 

Re: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

To wayne,   Thank you I needed a good laugh.
5:36 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

"And that, my friends, is why Carlson is in trouble."


Except that he isn't in any trouble.  So do we believe anything you say?
5:33 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

Oh Please

Carlson is only "in trouble" in your fevered little minds.  Do I think he should
have signed the application?  No.  And guess what, his supervisor also caught
that potential conflict and fixed it.   That is the end of the story.

Please refer it all to the AG.  I'm sure it will go straight into the "Nuts from
Provincetown" file.
5:32 pm edt 

Re: Jen Cabral

It Seems That People Just Reported on Jennifer Cabral's Behavior at
the Pig

they reported on what they saw and they were appalled. this is not an attack on
Jen Cabral but letting people know how she acted and how they were offended by
what she did.

If she had acted properly, I am sure no one would have said anything.

That some believed she acted like a juvenile is what they believed when they
surprisingly saw her acting oddly in public.

Saying this is terrible? Hardly
5:29 pm edt 

One Observation...

I had posted questions on this blog asking who the folks were who wanted a study
to keep the police station in its current location.  One reply was that
"everyone except the police and their cronies".  Well I was at town meeting and
it became very clear by the vote that there are actually very few people who
wanted that study...

So either the majority of the town are cronies of the police, or it appears that
some people on this blog over inflate the idea that they are in the majority!
I for one am happy that this has hopefully been put to bed.  Lets move on!
5:27 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

"To Your question: NO and No again

If you are the building commissioner, no, you can't approve your own building
permit. If you are the licensing agent, no, you can't approve your own
electrical permits. and if you are the health agent/director, no, you can't
approve your own request for an additional bedroom. It is, plain and simple,
unethical.

And that, my friends, is why Carlson is in trouble."

Gosh, someone loves to use innuendo. Carlson did not approve anything. The
approval was left for someone else to do. Stick to substantive arguments.
5:26 pm edt 

Re: Sharon Lynn

"Oh, come on. Enough with the victim stuff. If you are that
traumatized then you should be in therapy and not on this blog. Your post is
ridiculous."


I remember when Provincetown was a compassionate community. Where do you get off
kicking someone when they are down?  This sounded like a sincere post from
someone who is hurting--and you call them ridiculous. You're cruel. Go to
Rehobeth and live with the other monsters.
5:24 pm edt 

Re: Ian Leahy Facebook Post

I can't believe anyone would defend Jennifer Cabrals posts or actions, who are
you kidding? I've personally talked to a lot of people exposed to her ranting
and I can tell you no one wants to say anything because they're afraid they'll
be next. I think the best observation I've heard is that her brand is now
ruined. And funny the people posting with her are the ones she was always
posting about before. At least now everyone sees what she is, and how over the
top hateful she can be. Once again, shame on her. A lot of people will never
take her seriously again. Honest, this is the type of person you want involved
in town government? Someone that behaves like this? Conduct unbecoming if you
ask me.
5:22 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

No David actually does not approve the gallons but i'll leave you to ask a
selection or the town planner what the process is.

And to the person that said no money was involved...lol...you obviously don't
know Provincetown well. Let me ask you what the extra bedroom does to the
property valuation? To up that kind of value (money-wise) can only be done with,
you got it, a flow increase. And this is the entire ethics issue in a nutshell.
So go sell your misinformation elsewhere.
5:20 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

"To Your question: NO and No again

If you are the building commissioner, no, you can't approve your own building
permit. If you are the licensing agent, no, you can't approve your own
electrical permits. and if you are the health agent/director, no, you can't
approve your own request for an additional bedroom. It is, plain and simple,
unethical."



Remember reading tests in school where you would read a paragraph and then
answer questions about the content?  Those tests were called "reading
Comprehension" tests.  Ok, now, let's make believe that reading here is such a
test.

The post talked about APPLYING for permits.  it said NOTHING about APRROVING
said permits. There is nothing in any law that says that the building
commissioner can't APPLY for a Permit to add to his house.  Of course, it would
be a conflict for him to APPROVE the project. Of course, it would be a conflict
to inspect the work.

Understand now?  There is a difference between an APPLICATION and an APPROVAL. 
Carlson signed an application not an approval.
5:18 pm edt 

Health Agent

Are you kidding? Mr. Carlson is not in trouble. He would not have signed off if
he thought he would be in trouble. Did you ever think that he might have checked
before he signed.
5:16 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

Increase in bedrooms

An appliccant applies for an additional bedroom and signs off approving the
gallonage for that additional bedroom. Do you think a two bedroom on the market
sells at the same rate as a three bedroom? No advantage in signing your own
application? I don't think so!
5:15 pm edt 

Re: Sharon Lynn

"Why is it so hard for you and your kind to believe that people have
been really hurt by Sharon Lynn and her buddies? When I read posts like yours I
am injured again.  We are trying to move on, and part of that is to face the

truth about what happened--and a lot of us still need to talk about it."


Sounds like you've made bad decisions in your life and you've decided to blame
Sharon.  Until you accept responsibility and learn from your bad decisions
you're just going to keep making the same mistakes.
5:13 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

"And that, my friends, is why Carlson is in trouble."



Oh? And exactly what is the result? Has he been arrested, fired, called on the
carpet or had his house seized? No and no again. I can just imagine the eye
rolls at the AG's office when then they get a whiff of your accusations. Time
waste.
5:10 pm edt 

From BoS Candidate Wayne Martin

No I am not throwing a party for my self with other peoples hard earned money
like Anthony is I believe if elected my actions will speak for me. I don't
believe in holding functions for the sole purpose of beating my own chest and
telling the world how great I am and making empty promises that I don't intend
on keeping. As for the slogan moving Provincetown forward, moving it backwards
would be more appropriate. For those of you that have inquired what my
professions are that's none of anybody's business but my own I pay my own bills
with my own legally earned money. I have my own question whether I am a butcher
a baker or a candle stick maker dose that prevent me from becoming good
selectman of course it doesn't.

As I have stated before I have purchased a separate phone just to handle town
matters but seeing how I have not been elected yet I am under no obligation to
keep it on or answer it 24 7 365.  My platform is simply stated
HONESTY,CLARITY,INTEGRITY and first and for most NO BS!

5:09 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

To Your question: NO and No again

If you are the building commissioner, no, you can't approve your own building
permit. If you are the licensing agent, no, you can't approve your own
electrical permits. and if you are the health agent/director, no, you can't
approve your own request for an additional bedroom. It is, plain and simple,
unethical.

And that, my friends, is why Carlson is in trouble.
12:30 am edt 

Re: Sharon Lynn

Re: "Why is it so hard for you and your kind to believe that people
have been really hurt by Sharon Lynn and her buddies? When I read posts like
yours I am injured again."


Oh, come on. Enough with the victim stuff. If you are that traumatized then you
should be in therapy and not on this blog. Your post is ridiculous.
12:28 am edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

I can't believe I have to say this but here's what he does...he walks into the
town manager's office and says "hey I want to add a bedroom onto the property
that I'm associated with. How do I do this to avoid conflict of interest?" Then
you might notice that the plans were signed off by the person in Truro once the
Asst Town Manager made him pull his originals,why? Because it was a conflict of
interest. No matter how many times you post in here the facts will remain the
same. His signature should have been nowhere on any document and that was easy
to do since his boss could have signed for him. How can you not get this? You're
dead wrong.
12:26 am edt 

Ian Leahy Posted in Facebook

Clarence, it has been brought to my attention once again by fine upstanding members of our community that people were saying horrible things about Jennifer on MYPACC once again. So I went against my own better judgement and went over to your page to have a look. Wow. Just horrible. Your blog is rancid character assassination disguised as free speech and community spirit. I got really irritated at all the horrible things people were saying and almost made a comment, but then I thought better of it. I must say that it gave me quite a chuckle as I was about to leave the page to look once again at where it asks people to refrain from derogatory remarks. What complete trash. You should be ashamed.
12:15 am edt 

Tom Donegan

Shout out to Tom Donegan- just gotta say- you are proving to everyone
you are a man of your word. And an intelligent humble man at that. Nuff said. :)
Provincetown is very lucky to have you on our BOS.
12:10 am edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

Massachusetts ethics law provides an exemption for appointed
employees, so they may participate when their financial interest is not likely
to affect the integrity of their official actions. Considering there was
absolutely no financial benefit to be derived from Brian Carlson's signature on
the gallonage calculation, it seems that the attack dog should be put back in
his cage.  NO MATTER who owned the property, or who did the gallonage
calculation for the permit application, the result would have been the same. It
is impossible in this situation for financial interest to result in a different
outcome for Brian's portion of the permit. Ethics law is meant to protect us
from advantageous manipulation of the process. There was no advantage gained.
There was no manipulation.
12:06 am edt 

Bobby Anthony Moving Provincetown Forward

BOBBY ANTHONY FOR SELECTMAN
MOVING PROVINCETOWN FORWARD
Meet the Candidate
Friday, April 18th
Central House @ The Crown
5:30  7:00 pm Refreshments & Cash Bar
Learn more at Moving Provincetown Forward on Facebook.
12:02 am edt 

Monday, April 14, 2014

Re: Sharon Lynn

"Sharon-- I am so glad you are gone. You can hold hands or whatever with these
other candyland women."



Here's another fine example of the creepy, childish posts about Sharon. Gone for
months now, this scary clown is still squirreled away his broom closet, spitting
out this drivel. Sharon and candyland women? Try your twisted hand at writing
horror, pal. I mean, you seriously can creep out the entire eastern seaboard.
11:57 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

Just so you know, Brian does not approve additional gallons, David
does.

But, go ahead and continue to trash him.
11:55 pm edt 

Re: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Wayne martin are you holding any type of campaign event, get together.  
I see all the other candidates are were is yours???????
11:54 pm edt 

Re: Sharon Lynn

"You folks have an abnormal fixation on Sharon Lynn.  She's moved on
is very happy in her new job.  You should move on as well."


Spoken like someone who didn't have her life turned upside down by Sharon Lynn
and her buddies.  You would feel differently if you were having money problems
because you had lost your job for no reason than you didn't fit in with her
special friends. You would feel differently if you were unable to sleep at
night, given pills by your doctor to treat your anxiety caused by her. You would
feel differently if you had lost your home and your friends and your church
because yo had to move.

Why is it so hard for you and your kind to believe that people have been really
hurt by Sharon Lynn and her buddies? When I read posts like yours I am injured
again.  We are trying to move on, and part of that is to face the truth about
what happened--and a lot of us still need to talk about it.

I do not hope that Sharon Lynn is happy in her new job. I just hope she doesn't
hurt people there the way she did here. I hope her $1.4M mansion crumbles around
her and that she and her wife get just a taste of what they have inflicted on
others. They are not special. They are not kind. They are not good people. They
are rich, narrowminded, ignorant, and entitled. I can't wait for the day that
Sharon Lynn doesn't appear in my nightmares.

If you don't believe me and those in my shoes, just shut up--you're making it
worse.
11:50 pm edt 

Re: Wayne Martin

Again I write this as it never seems to,get posted I wonder why?????? 
Wayne martin the people's choice.  I think that is the funniest thing ever....if
you read these  post   And everyone is complaining about everyone on the board
and who should e fired but yet wayne martin is the answer----- has this what the
town has come too,  if he gets in then this town has much make issues then I
thought
2:33 pm edt 

Re: Sharon Lynn

You folks have an abnormal fixation on Sharon Lynn.  She's moved on is
very happy in her new job.  You should move on as well.
2:24 pm edt 

A Simple Truth

The simple truth is that you can understand a town. You can
know and love and hate it. You can blame it, resent it, and nothing changes. In
the end, you're just another part of it.

Brenna Yovanoff
2:20 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

"ANY document for ANYTHING to do with his personal property or a
property he has a connection to is a violation PERIOD."


I'm glad that you are sending all the contents of the garbage pail to the AG.

So tell brave soul, if the building inspector wants to renovate his home, what
can he do?  Can he apply for a permit?

If the Health Agent wants to renovate a bathroom can he apply for a permit?  If
the health Agent lives in a non-sewered area can he apply for a permit to build
a new septic system to comply with the law?

How about the plumbing inspector?  Or the wiring inspector?  Who can apply for
work to be done on their properties?

I'm sure your keen legal mind has a ready answer to these hellish problems.
2:17 pm edt 

Three Funny Faces or Three Stooges

Sharon-- I am so glad you are gone. You can hold hands or whatever with these
other candyland women. You deserve their presence and thank goodness they are
visiting you---and not us!

We are free of all three of you!

It must be Spring in Provincetown!

1:41 pm edt 

Re: Jen Cabral

So Full Of Herself

She should step back but obviously she can't. She rushes forward and feels her
opinions are gold, her ideas are the best and her positions impeccable.

What a sad woman she is. And those who hold her skirts should be careful. They
too will be tainted with the same brush. Let's just say it's not the best canvas
Provincetown has had! This canvass is splashed with tragic strokes!
1:39 pm edt 

Re: Wayne Martin - BoS Candidate

Does any one have any background on the candidates , more specifically
wayne Martin, what does he do for a living, I am new In town and I know what the
others do but haven't heard much about martin
1:37 pm edt 

Anthony Bourdain

Did I see Anthony Bourdain in Provincetown Sunday afternoon?
1:09 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

You seem to be a little slow so I'll try to say this clearly: an application or
a permit is irrelevant. ANY document for ANYTHING to do with his personal
property or a property he has a connection to is a violation PERIOD. Is there
financial implications to this directly or indirectly? YES therefore his
signature should NOT be on this document. But I say, since you brought it up,
that we do exactly what you said for the Fincom complaint and right after I type
this I will forward all of this to the AGs office and let them decide.  The more
you keep bringing this up the more of us will do that so with friends like you
this man doesn't need any enemies. You're going to end up causing him more
problems because you can't either shut up or admit the obvious.
1:05 pm edt 

Re: Sharon Lynn

Someone here suggests that we sue Sharon for all the financials bills
she's left us.  A friend of mine who lives in Milford, Delaware mentioned that
Sharon just bought a house in Rehoboth for 1.4 million.  If she had been a
doctor, she'd been sued for malpractice.
1:04 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

" How can something be slander where there's a document with his
signature on it for a permit application for increased gallons at a property
where he's an owner?"


By the logic of the poster, Mr. Carlson, cannot, and should not ever apply for
anything that has anything to do with his job.  Please note that the poster
states, "permit application", not PERMIT APPROVAL.  How can someone in a job
like Mr. Carlson has ever get something done? I would love to see the opinion of
the poster as to who should have applied for the permit.  I agree that the
approval process should hav e been and was done independently.

The facts are:  Mr. Carlson properly and legally applied for increased sewer
usage.  The permit and associated engineering was reviewed by the town of
Truro's Health Agent.  How should it have been done to make it OK in your mind? 
Or was it really OK but you want to destroy him because he dared to question
something about the FinCom?

This post will never be addressed like so many others that ask for
clarification.  The tactic is: accuse and disappear.

10:41 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

RE:  "Let's see how firmly grounded he is in his convictions, and he
resigns as an employee paid by us, the town voters, in order to run, and get
voted in, by us (the town voters)."



What have you been smoking?  Hoort doesn't need my vote or your vote or anybody
elses.  There are only two candidates for two open positions.  If one of the
lurking loudmouths from here stepped up and ran instead of anonomously attacking
those who do stand up then maybe the votes would matter.  As it stands. two
candidates, two positions.  done deal!
10:39 am edt 

Re: Shameful Behavior by Jen Cabral

Cabral-Hatch

Obviously you didn't read the e-mail. You must have been in a rush when you
read it. They were merely saying her behavior was unwarranted in a public place
towards Mr. Hatch. No need to constantly be looking over at someone you don't
like and be snickering at him the whole time you are in a public establishment.
How childish is that! As a previous post mentioned, that is high school action
or even better, Jr. High actions. My children don't even act like that towards
a couple of their pre-teen friends they are not fond of.
10:05 am edt 

Re: Shameful Behavior by Jen Cabral

RE: So Let Me Get This Straight

I really should have expected this posting what I did, but let ME get this
straight. You weren't there but you're posting here what you think happened? I
was there, and saw it all very clearly. She wasn't squinting to see anything, it
was obvious to me and everyone else because we all saw it happen, unlike you,
and we talked about it. Then someone posts that she called him a "cancer"
online? Again, who thinks this is OK? These are the sort of people the town is
made up of now? This is what someone who wants to be a town leader says and the
way she acts? No wonder there are so many problems!
10:03 am edt 

Re: Wayne Martin

To the person who says Wayne Martin would be available 24 hours a day
as a Selectman, he never never ever answers his phone so leave a message after
the beep and (maybe) he'll get back to you.  He loves to text though.
10:01 am edt 

Re: Nagle E-Mails

"Candy giving a heads up about a question she was going to ask shows
nothing but courtesy???"



Nah.  All it is giving prior notice so that Sharon can "prepare" herself.  We
all know that Sharon's strength wasn't public speaking.
9:58 am edt 

Sharon Lynn - Dan Hoort

One of the most embarrassing moments for Sharon Lynn, and she had
many, was when Dan Hoort, addressed the BOS, to complain about how he was being
treated, while she sat right there like a lump.  She should have reprimanded
him, for bypassing her.  It was Sharon who should have brought his "beef" to the
BOS, not him.  By him doing so, he had rendered her ineffectual.  But then
again, it was Sharon Lynn, not the most competent staff overseers, the proof of
this fact being that we'll be paying for her incompetence long after her having
skipped our town.  Nice trail of bills she's left us.  We should sue her.
9:57 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

"Most people in town and almost everyone on this blog feel town
employees are targets and we take unwarranted abuse all the time.   I think Dan
Hoort is standing up and saying 'not anymore".



Let's see how firmly grounded he is in his convictions, and he resigns as an
employee paid by us, the town voters, in order to run, and get voted in, by us
(the town voters).
9:55 am edt 

Re: Cops Censoring Blog?

Dear webmaster,

What was this post trying to say? We can't seem to make sense of it. Are they
saying they have submitted things that are not being posted? At a loss in
understanding that one.
1:08 am edt 

It Becomes so Transparent it's Ridiculous

Brian goes against FinCom, is attacked.

Jennifer Cabral speaks against Mark Hatch and is now subject to anonymous attack
here.

Pathetic.
12:45 am edt 

Re: New Town Manager vs Dan Hoort

"Any new town manager would want their own finance director and with
this sad man's history, he would be the first to go."



We aren't even close to hiring a town manager and here you are, forecasting what
what she/he will do. Frankly, you're so far from the epicenter it doesn't matter
what you think.
12:42 am edt 

Re: Wayne Martin BoS Candidate

Never thought I'd ever type those words into my computer! While it was rumor he
was going to run was funny, now that he's actually got himself onto the ballot
is crazy! If anyone has been paying attention to the local scene and local news
for the past dozen years or so, this guy has been in the news for all the WRONG
reasons. Is he really what Provincetown politics has sunk to? We have other
qualified candidates on the ballot, good people with a good reputation. Stop the
mayhem and vote for Richter and/or Anthony. We don't need the drama. Keep in
mind, this next board of selectmen, made up of whomever wins, will be choosing
the next TM and the next police chief. Scary if Martin gets in.
12:39 am edt 

Re: Heads Up E-Mail

"The email posted here wherein candy gives a heads up about a question
she was going to ask shows nothing but courtesy between a private citizen and a
town official."


Brown nosing, and nothing else.
12:36 am edt 

Slander and Brian Carlson

"He worked on, and approved his own permit for his own house. He first
used his partner as the name on the property when it was his house as well.
slandered? No, this man did himself in. Carlson did an illegal act that could
get him fined for $10,000."


No one is a blind as a person who will not see.  This certainly applies here. 
Please, please, please show a single document that has carlson's APPROVAL of
anything.  You Claim to know something but you know nothing.  Where did he
APPROVE anything.  He did not.
12:33 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

As a town employee who doesn't work in town hall and has minimal 
contact with Dan Hoort I think what he's doing is taking a stand for all
employees.  Most people in town and almost everyone on thus blog feel town
employees are targets and we take unwarranted abuse all the time.   I think Dan
Hoort is standing up and saying 'not anymore'.
12:31 am edt 

Re: Shameful Behavior by Jen Cabral

And you are surprised that Jennifer Cabral exhibits immature behavior?
Really? Let's just say, she lacks in class and appeal. Remember her husband's
rants here on this blog not all that long ago? Jennifer Cabral does not know
decorum. She has made it publicly known her disdain for Mark Hatch on Facebook
calling him a cancer. Actually, Mark Hatch and Jennifer Cabral deserve each
other. Name calling and sand box fighting at its best.
12:28 am edt 

So Let Me Get This Straight

Jennifer Cabral was supposedly scowling at Mark Hatch's back and she owes him an
apology?  Did you ever think maybe she was squinting at the specials board?  Why
would anyone scowl at someone's back?

And yet, Mr. Hatch launched an attack on Brian Carlson first about the Open
Meeting Law Complaint and then tried to concoct some bogus attack on Carlson
based on an application that was never even acted upon.  And when he
"apologized" on the Voice page he received so many negative comments that he
deleted his own apology thread.

I love that the webmaster is allowing a completely juvenile discussion here. 
Are we going to get into who "looks the other way" at the Stop & Shop next?  The
value to the community in this discussion is what, Clarence?  You should delete
that stupid post and then this one.
12:26 am edt 

Re: Shameful Behavior by Jen Cabral

Oh get lost with this shaming bull. Like women can't have opinions,
emotions or the freedom to do what we please. On top of that, husbands are
supposed to be controlling our behavior. I can just imagine the rubber necking
you're doing from across the room. Butt out.
12:23 am edt 

Slander and Brian Carlson

When I look up the definition of slander, it says "a malicious, false, and
defamatory statement or report: a slander against his good name." How can
something be slander where there's a document with his signature on it for a
permit application for increased gallons at a property where he's an owner? And
for those people who don't know this, the condo association actually is
responsible for the water/sewer. You know, the condo association Brian Carlson
is a member of (for those of you who are pointing out he doesn't technically own
the unit that requested it but his partner does).

So there is no slander here, as we've all seen the copies of the document.
That's his signature. Furthermore, there isn't a lot of brain power required to
figure out that this isn't ethical, unless, of course, you're as unethical as
this. Oh wait, look at the characters yelling so loudly about this! You know
what? When you see people screaming things like this it means someone got too
close to some truth that someone doesn't want out in the open. So scream about
the messenger to detract from the message. But most of us aren't so easily
fooled...
12:21 am edt 

Re: Shameful Behavior by Jen Cabral

Wait, she "scowled at his back?"

That makes tons of sense.  Must be a slow news cycle.
12:18 am edt 

What a Waste!

Jennifer Cabral? Really? she has been here all her life and what has
she done to make the town better? She's never served on any town boards, has
she? Had Smith seen her future of menial lifetime jobs and wasted its degree, it
wouldn't have accepted her.
12:16 am edt 

Sunday, April 13, 2014

Slandering Carlson? He himself Damaged Himself

He worked on, and approved his own permit for his own house. He first used his
partner as the name on the property when it was his house as well. slandered?
No, this man did himself in. Carlson did an illegal act that could get him fined
for $10,000.

He should be punished for what he did. He used his town position for his own
advantage and financial gain. That is improper and gain illegal.

He was not slandered. The truth reveals his poor character. Sweet face but his
spirit is rust-encrusted and sadly corruptive. His actions define him.
5:04 pm edt 

Dan Hoort Would be the First to Go

Any new town manager would want their own finance director and with this sad
man's history, he would be the first to go. then it would be Russell Braun,
given his own history.

Then move on. The house is clean and the goings are good.
5:03 pm edt 

Cops Censoring Blog?



Myself and several individuals have placed blogs on this site about our and
Truro's police but not once has one of them made it though the censoring process
are we not supposed to speak ill of ask questions why things are done or are not
certain ways or is there a cop one of the people in charge of this site? please
let me know web master or this another one of many the public will never see!

5:00 pm edt 

Wayne Martin BoS Candidate

MARTIN FOR BoS

Who has longer ties in Ptown than Martin he was born and raised in this town and
his family has been here since the 1660's. Wayne has always fought for the under
dog no matter what it cost him personally and still is doing so. He is a firm
believer in our First amendment rights and he has a thick skin so say what you
want about him he's a better man than most.  Yes he does have an agenda TO TELL
THE TRUTH NO MATTER WHAT AND TO NEVER WAIVER IN THE EYES OF ADVERSITY. He will
give this towns residents something its never had before an honest eye inside
the City government someone the residents of this town can call for an honest
answer 24 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year who else has ever offered
that!!! Let me answer that for you NO ONE!!!

  GOT MARTIN
4:58 pm edt 

Boston Globe: Aquacultured Clams, Oysters thrive in Provincetown


PROVINCETOWN — On a cloudless July afternoon at low tide, John Santos ferries four passengers — one of whom is his wife and business partner, Lory Stewart — across Provincetown Harbor to the 2-acre aquaculture grant (Grant No. 5) where the couple began farming clams and oysters four years ago. Wood End lighthouse beckons straight ahead. Long Point Beach, at the very tip of Cape Cod, sits just to the left. The only visible companions are two seals who pop up to greet the arriving skiff as it approaches the flat.

While Wellfleet, two towns over, is practically synonymous with oysters, Grant No. 5 is the only working grant in the harbor and the couple are the first in this town to raise oysters, which they have branded Long Pointers. Santos, 66, and Stewart, 63, took over the grant from Santos’s godfather, Larry Meads, who had farmed clams on the site with his wife, Nancy, for many years. A fourth-generation Provincetown resident, Santos owns Flyer’s Boatyard and Rentals, a business his father founded and his son, Noah, now runs. Though still involved with Flyer’s, Santos says he saw the grant as an opportunity to do something in retirement that would keep him busy without taking up all his time. Stewart is director of instructional technology for a regional school district on the mid-Cape.

 

Once the skiff anchors, Santos heads straight for what he calls his “office,” a pontoon boat anchored on the flats, from which he can see the clam beds, oyster cages, and full sweep of Provincetown in the distance. Stewart leads the passengers onto the flats for a lesson in shellfish farming. This is nothing new for her. In addition to growing and harvesting the mollusks, Santos and Stewart offer eco-tours and pick-your-own clams and oysters. In its first season, the activity is very popular, particularly on sunny days.

Standing on the flats, Stewart explains that clams are planted in 10-by-50-foot runs, with about 100 seeds per square foot. She and Santos currently have about 250,000 clams in various stages of development. At planting time every summer, they rake the plots, lay down nets with rebar, then sprinkle seeds, which they get from Aquaculture Research Corporation in Dennis. It takes three years for clams to grow to market size.

The nets hold the clams in place and protect them from predators – primarily boon snails and crabs. Periodically, Stewart and Santos have to bring out long-handled squeegees to wipe away seaweed, which can suffocate the clams. After two years they remove the nets, and periodically rake the clams. “It shakes them up. It gives them a chance to wiggle around and grow,” Stewart explains. At that point, the clams are developed enough that they burrow back down into the sand to continue growing.

Using a bull rake, Stewart scrapes the sand and picks up a clam. She pulls an oyster and clam gauge out of her bag and places the mollusk inside to measure it. She and her husband are raising littlenecks (1-inch quahogs). “You want them right there [1-inch],” she says. “Those are the most desirable for steaming, for linguine. Non-keepers today should be ready in two to three weeks.” When she and her husband harvest, also in summer, they rake up about 2,000 clams at a time.

“Oysters are a lot of work,” says Stewart, walking across the flat toward a group of floating oyster cages. “You have to handle them a lot. Most weekends in May, I stand at a table culling oysters for eight hours each day.” These bivalves take four years to get to market size. Stewart and Santos have 500,000 oysters in different stages of development and their goal is to harvest 20,000 annually.

Oysters culled from Provincetown aquaculture beds.

Barry Chin/Globe Staff

Oysters culled from Provincetown aquaculture beds.

 

The couple’s growing process has “morphed,” according to Stewart. They started with bags of seeds on metal frames. Now the majority grow in floating cages that move with the tidal water. The couple believes this helps develop the desirable deep cup that means a meaty oyster. They are also growing some oysters on racks. And Santos saves empty oyster and clam shells, then spreads them on one area of the flats. The oyster shells give off spat, or natural oyster seed. The oyster larvae attach to the empty clam shells and to polyethlyene plastic “Chinese hats,” named for their shape, which the farmers set out stacked on cylinders. This is a way to create a natural oyster population.

Stewart’s and Santos’s clams and oysters are served in restaurants in Provincetown and Truro, in addition to being collected by tourists the couple bring to the flats.

Chris King, owner of Cape Tip Seafood, which distributes them, says of the Outer Cape’s newest entry, “It’s coming along great.” He describes the oysters’ taste as similar to those of the neighboring Wellfleet.

Shucking an oyster on the boat heading back to town, Santos maintains his Long Pointers taste so good they need no lemon or cocktail sauce. It’s hard to argue with that assessment after slurping one from its shell.

4:55 pm edt 

Shameful Behavior by Jen Cabral

I couldn't decide whether to post this or not, but I've decided to because it
bothered me so much and I can do it here without being personally targeted. I
witnessed something this week at the Pig that was one of the most shameful
expressions of disrespect I've ever seen in town aimed at a person, and a
symptom of just how corrosive people in the town make politics. Mr Hatch walked
into the Pig for lunch with a friend and Ms Cabral and her husband and Mr Petas
were seated in the corner window. Mr Hatch warmly said hello, to which Ms Cabral
scowled, and said nothing. After they were seated, Ms Cabral continued to make
faces at them through their entire meal. Mr Hatch was seated with his back
towards them, but his friend was not and was, evidently, made extremely
uncomfortable by the display as you could tell from his body language and facial
expressions. I was watching this from another table. It bothered me so much that
I approached Mr Hatch later, who was very gracious and !
said it didn't matter, and he always treats people with respect no matter what,
but thanked me for the concern and said, jokingly, "In the words of RuPaul what
other people think of me is none of my business". What a difference!

Have we gotten to the point in this town where this behavior is acceptable, even
encouraged? Why did Mr Petas, as intelligent as he seems, not tell her to stop
behaving like this? What are the possible issues and differences that could lead
a person to be so entirely disrespectful in public of another person in the
town? Is this not commented on or called out because her last name is Cabral? I
felt like I was in a Junior High lunch room. It was as uncomfortable for the
people witnessing her behavior as I'm sure it was for the objects of her out of
line disrespect.

I'm not suggesting that we treat Ms Cabral with the scorn she happily inflicted
on others, but I urge other people to pause a minute and remember we're all
people and deserve to be treated like we are. We can disagree on politics, town
government, or any number of things but we're all still human beings. This
behavior is never acceptable, anywhere, ESPECIALLY in Provincetown, where we
pride ourselves on being a beacon of equality, tolerance, and respect for
everyone no matter who or what they are. Shame on her for that display. She owes
Mr Hatch a heartfelt apology for that and I hope she gives it to him. None of us
should ever stand by and think that sort of behavior is acceptable.
4:45 pm edt 

Re: Heads Up E-Mail

The email posted here wherein candy gives a heads up about a question she was
going to ask shows nothing but courtesy between a private citizen and a town
official.  If only all citizens acted accordingly. We would have a better town.
If that's all you got from your email purchase, I'd say you wasted your money
and our time with your spooky conspiracy posts.


It's not like she was violating open meeting laws by addressing town business
with a quorum present so that minds are already made up with no public input. 
If minds are made up before public input, that makes the open to the public part
nothing more than a perfunctory exercise in make believe democracy.  That's why
open meeting laws are so important, to preserve the democratic part if
democracy.
4:44 pm edt 

Re: New Town Manager vs Dan Hoort

If he doesn't intend to be in the job long, then why is he constantly causing
the town so much division and distress? Could it be that he's just one of those
people that thrives on drama? Or could it be that what he's doing is trying to
put the town in a position where he can featherbed his retirement with a nice
juicy lawsuit? One has to wonder.

Also, there are many, many capable people both in town and out would would love
to have the Finance Director's position. I'm sure the town would have no trouble
recruiting for it, and getting someone with talent and no penchant for unneeded
drama. We'd all be better off, and so would the new Town Manager. People thought
the same about Sharon, and the town seems to be running just fine without her
now, doesn't it? So does the Police Department when the drama was removed there
too. And so will Finance. And the town, I'm sure, will steer itself back to
normal with a new BOS as well. Lots of changes have happened, and many more to
come.
4:40 pm edt 

Re: Nagle E-Mails

The e-mail which was posted here, in which Candy gives "a heads up" as
she calls it, by giving Sharon, the e-mail's recipient a question ahead of a
public meeting is pretty funny, albeit a bit sad.  So eagerly pliant...
9:29 am edt 

Saturday, April 12, 2014

Anthony/Richter

That's who I'll vote for. Too bad nobody ran against Cheryl for the other seat.
Anthony has long ties to the community and Richter would be there already had
Knight not been such a        last election. Martin should have run back in his
hometown. He's a                with an agenda.
9:02 pm edt 

Re: Nagle E-Mails

"First of all, based on the information garnered from these e-mails
between certain members of our town hall staff, we have figured motives and
involvement."


The word out now is "if you see something, say something".  So please do it.
Tell us the motives and involvment.  Better yet tell the AG.  Tell the BI.  Tell
the justice dept.  TELL SOMEONE WHO CAN DO SOMETHING.  of course, that implies
that there is more to tell than empty BS posted anonymously on small town blog.
8:59 pm edt 

Provincetown Banner

"Please read this story and understand by continuing to ignore our
Charter that Hoort shows ignorance and a careless disregard for our Town. I
believe this is indicative of his disregard for the intelligence of the people
he serves."


Last week the Banner was scorned this week it is the bible.  Which way is it?
8:57 pm edt 

New Town Manager vs Dan Hoort

Would you keep him? Any sane person taking this job will clean house
rather than put up with that ship of fools. Isn't what we've all fought for to
get rid of people at town hall that think they're above the law and ethics? More
of the same with this stunt from Mr Hoort.


If the new town manager is any good at all I'd be very surprised if they ask
Dieter Groll who they should keep and who should be hone.

I'll admit a bias because I've known Mr. Hoort for a few years, but he is very
good at his work.  Any new town manager with half a brain will keep him and want
him working in that position.  He spent countless hours making sure Sharon had
every relevant piece of financial information she needed and he's doing the same
thing for David.  Ask anyone who works with him and they will tell you he's one
of the best with whom they've worked.

I also know that he does not intend to be in that position for a long time so
maybe that's why he pushes the envelope.  The new town manager may ask him to
tone it down a bit, but they'd be crazy to get rid of him.
8:55 pm edt 

Re: "Disregurd"?
 
LOL DISREGARD OR DISREGURD

I may have made a mistake but my eyes are old and they aint what they once was
but you get what I meant. At least I know its Selectman not Selectboard who I am
voting for and the truth of the matter is that Anthony is not the man for the
job to know him is to know this!

WE NEED A MAN OR WOMEN WITH VISION 20/20 WOULD HELP, WITH NO TIES TO ANY
ENTITIES A MAN OR WOMEN WITH INTEGRITY AND HE IS NOT SUCH A PERSON!!!
8:49 pm edt 

Re: Dieter Groll Complaint

I love people who post here not knowing the first thing they're talking about.
The Charter Committee voted not to dismiss the Groll complaint and cited the
exact reasons why, including 2 charter violations. As per the charter these go
first back to David Gardner because, as Hoort's superior, he's supposed to
counsel him on the conflict of interest. This then goes to open hearing as per
the charter and I heard the committee is trying to do this BEFORE the election
so that Mr Hoort has two choices: he can run and not take office (surely looking
silly in the process and further ruining his already horrible personal
reputation) or quit his job and wait a year to sit on the committee.

You can try to spin this in any way you want but the town clerk will NOT swear him
in with this finding. If Mr Hoort wants to contest this reading in court he can. But
what he can't do is argue with the charter committee, nor can he take office and
keep his job. That might not be a problem anyhow because if he keeps it up, the
next town manager will most likely give him the boot because, by the same charter,
the town manager hires the finance director.

Would you keep him? Any sane person taking this job will clean house rather than
put up with that ship of fools. Isn't what we've all fought for to get rid of
people at town hall that think they're above the law and ethics? More of the
same with this stunt from Mr Hoort.
12:24 am edt 

Friday, April 11, 2014

Re: Facebook Blogs

You have got to be kidding me you call people cowards for utilizing this site
and not posting their identities to express their views while at the same time
remaining anonymous yourself, if that don't beat all. If you don't like it you
should exercise your right not to look at it or post your name for all to see.

PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES MY FRIEND
7:21 pm edt 

Re: "Disregurd"?

To the person who complained about misspelled words and grammatical
errors, you also posted this:

"...judgment is that this thread and it's followers are backing others."

Now, here's a test for you:
Find the misspelled word or grammatical error contained in your own quote.
7:18 pm edt 

Facebook Blogs

The Real Provincetown Community and Politics Group on fb is the only
political group with a set of balls. Closed groups are an excuse to be pathetic
and cowardly. Shut up all of you and let this town get back on track.
5:03 pm edt 

"Disregurd"?

There seems to be a constant disregard for the rules of spelling and grammar on
this thead. The webmaster will pick and choose who can post here, just like the
moderator will let pro finance committee cabal rant on and on but cut off others
or ignore them altogether.  Seems to be a pattern here. So my best educated
judgment is that this thread and it's followers are backing others. So I am
voting for Robert Anthony for Selectboard.
4:07 pm edt 

Re: Nagle E-Mails

I'm tired of all the bull about the emails.  You can claim whatever mysterious
conspiracies were in evidence in the emails you want.  Where is the evidence? 
You have shown nothing of the kind to those inquiring on this board.  By the
way, we didnt make the emails an issue.  YOU DID!  By posting about them here
getting everyone worked up about how damming they will be then failing to
deliver on the hype, you made them an issue.  Besides that, we were promised
multiple times by the webmaster that a report on the emails would be
forthcoming.  What did we getZipZilchNada.

If you dont want to print all the emails (I dont have the time to read them all
anyway) or a summary report, how about a few actuals emails which prove your
conspiracy theories.  You owe us all at least that as we were promised the
information by the webmaster himself.
3:42 pm edt 

Re: Dieter Groll Complaint

"On Monday, the commission responded to his complaint by unanimously voting not
to dismiss it, instead acknowledging it as a potential issue for consideration.
For the non-binding charter enforcement commission, whose rulings are largely
advisory in nature, the careful wording is part of standard protocol in
responding to complaints alleging a charter violation."



Okay I read DG's version of the meeting, then I read the story from the banner. 
Who is telling the truth?  By reading DG's version you would think the
commission unanimously found in favor of all his complaints and was about to
give DH the boot.  Apparently that is not the case.

When you read the Banner story, you see they only voted not to dismiss his
complaint in what amounts to nothing more than their "standard protocol"
response to a complaint.

There is a huge difference between voting not to dismiss and finding an actual
violation.  In any case their findings are only advisory in nature.  Apparently,
if you want to have real  (non-advisory) action taken, you'll have to get it
through the courts.
1:05 pm edt 

Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

ANTHONY DISREGURDS TOWN BYLAWS

Once again Anthony just cant seem to obey laws and follow the rules. After
checking at town hall it has come to my attention that all candidates running
for selectman besides Anthony applied for temporary sign permits required by the
town to display their campaign signs. This should not surprise anyone because he
has history of thumbing his nose at town, state and state lottery laws. Being a
member of the VFW I am going to look into where the money the party he is
throwing for himself and the money for his signs came from to make sure it did
not come out of our account seeing how his campaign manager is in charge of our
check book!

SELECTMAN MATERIAL I DONT THINK SO!!!
12:57 pm edt 

Re: VFW Sale

The "feds"? Just who is the "feds"? A few people looking into a complaint to the
VFW administration isn't such a bad thing. Maybe they're just doing their
routine run of the mill exercise to calm the complainers so they can say they
looked into it. Just because two peole made a complaint doesn't mean the "feds"
jump into action. And especially those two.

On a related note, it's too bad meet the candidates night isn't open to general
questions from the public. What a circus that would be with candidate Martin at
the mic. Can't wait to hear what he has to say.
12:54 pm edt 

Re: Nagle E-Mails

"I've got this sinking feeling that all the ranting about Mr. Carlson
are going to go the way of the so-called candy land emails. Disappeared. And no
shame for the harrassment."


I feel obligated to at least attempt to explain to the person who continues to
disparage the Nagle e-mails that we paid for and have referred to extensively in
reading the pulse of the "players" in the corruption and back-door deals
occurring while Nagle and Lynn and others were selling out our Town.

First of all, based on the information garnered from these e-mails between
certain members of our town hall staff, we have figured motives and involvement.
Unless you have been sleeping for the past year, you will have noticed the
corruption and poor judgement exhibited by our FORMER town manager, our police
chief, our finance director, our BOS chair, members of the BOS, certain
committee members, and greedy developers and opportunists.

Much of the information that put the final nail in the caskets of these "FORMER"
town hall heads came from information cemented by these e-mails.
I assure anyone who thinks that the Nagle e-mails were not helpful or worth the
time and energy spent studying and reading them and having the guilty parties
realizing we had this damning information was very effective.

Probably the most graphic display of the effectiveness is that so many town hall
employees and groupies have fled and have not publicly denied or attempted to
dispute the graphic proof we have that shows and proves inpropriety. This
information came from the e-mails and other sources that the perpetrators tried
to keep from us. Saying it would cost $3000.00 was meant to scare us
away....Sharon Lynn and others thought the cost and delays would discourage us
and send us packing.

We all know how that ended.
12:10 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort - Provincetown Finance Director

Please read this story and understand by continuing to ignore our
Charter that Hoort shows ignorance and a careless disregard for our Town. I
believe this is indicative of his disregard for the intelligence of the people
he serves.
      ...

By Erik Borg
Posted Apr. 11, 2014 @ 9:00 am

PROVINCETOWN
The towns charter enforcement commission legitimized a formal complaint against
Daniel Hoorts candidacy to be elected to its own ranks on Monday.
Hoort, who is also the towns finance director, is slated to appear on the ballot
as one of two candidates seeking two open seats on the charter enforcement
commission at the annual town election next month.
His legal ability to serve, however, has been cast in doubt by a formal
complaint alleging that, as finance director, holding a seat on the commission
would violate two sections of the very town charter it aims to enforce.
Specifically, the complaint alleges that it would violate the charter
stipulation that a paid town employee shall not be a member of a town board
which is any way related to his employment or that a paid town employee with
supervisory duties shall not be a member of a town board which is any way
related to his employment during his or her term of office or for at least one
year after leaving office.
One of the major responsibilities of the charter enforcement commission is to
review complaints alleging a charter violation by key town officials and members
of certain influential boards, including the finance committee, which the
finance director directly advises.
If he were nominated and elected, Mr. Hoort would find himself in the most
unusually powerful position of having oversight and enforcement powers over that
very same board to whom he acts as an advisor and staff liaison, wrote Dieter
Groll, who authored the complaint.
Groll, a Provincetown resident, said his complaint was not intended as a direct
target on Hoort or his candidacy, but was the result of a broader concern for
open and transparent government.
On Monday, the commission responded to his complaint by unanimously voting not
to dismiss it, instead acknowledging it as a potential issue for consideration.
For the non-binding charter enforcement commission, whose rulings are largely
advisory in nature, the careful wording is part of standard protocol in
responding to complaints alleging a charter violation.
So far, Im very satisfied with the outcome, he said. [Hoorts] response to this
will be interesting.
Hoort said on Wednesday morning that he still intends to serve on the commission
and was unaware of the commissions ruling earlier in the week.
"Nothing has changed my plans, he said. I asked ahead of time if I was allowed
to run and I was told that I was, so I threw my name in. I'm going to continue
to run until someone tells me that I'm not allowed to."
11:59 am edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

"Maybe It's time for David Gardner to do an Investigation on the Brain
Carlson conflict of Interest"


There WAS NO CONFLICT OF INTEREST. Just because a few vindictive folks would
like to think that there was a conflict of interest does not mean that there
was.  There has not been any indication that Carlson was involved in any
wrongdoing at all, and all this BS is nothing more that the FinCom and friends
trying to discredit him and punish him.
11:12 am edt 

Re: VFW Sale

SALE OF VFW PROPERITY UNDER INVESTIGATION BY FEDS

Yes its true the sale of the property and the illegal actions of some members of
the VFW is being investigated members are being questioned and the books are
being opened. This should come to no surprise to the Selectman or the Finance
committee both of these entities were told in open meetings several times that
they were being lied to by the members trying to sell the club to the town for
half of what is was worth. Both Wayne Martin BoS candidate and Paul Redantz
spoke at meetings saying that there were misdealings going on at the post and
not to purchase the property until there was a full investigation but their
words fell on deaf ears. It seems like they should have been listen to and their
statements been given more consideration instead of rushing to buy. So I would
hope that the building of the police station on this site or any other plans for
this site be put on hold indefinitely until the out come of the criminal
investigation by the IRS is complete Anything else !
would be negligent by the town!


  IT WAS TO GOOD TO BE TRUE
11:10 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

I'm wondering what town manager with a good deal of experience is
going to move and live here for $120000. I know many people think it's a kings
ransom, but it's actually quite paltry for administering to this town's needs
and demands. Just because you think it should be adequate doesn't mean it is.
The last thing we need is an inadequate clown of a TM.


This was not a smart move.
*At these salaries we will have one of the lowest paid town managers on the Cape
and the lowest paid police chief with the highest cost of living
*Single people or empty nesters only should apply.  A family is not welcome,
they could not afford a home here at that salary.
*This is the budget, but if the BOS can hire at whatever salary they deem
appropriate?  Our financial watchdogs think that is OK?
*and lastly, any candidate worth hiring will do their research and will know the
toxic environment in town and we are currently paying the acting town manager in
the high $140s
11:02 am edt 

Re: Provincetown School Committee

TO A CERTAIN SCHOOL COMMITTEE MEMBER

Instead of chastising the person that brought attention to the mother who brings
booze and drugs and drinks on school grounds and routinely keeps her son out of
school at your meeting you should be looking into the matter. A lot of people
know who this person is and what she has been doing for years but as usual
nobody wants to get involved! There are reasons people don't do things the way
you think they should be done that you are not privy to so just reserve your
judgments until you know all the facts! Do yourself a favor look at her friends
and connections.


  BIRDS OF A FEATHER

10:59 am edt 

Re: Town Manager

"The last thing we need is an inadequate clown of a TM."


We had one of these.  She just left, fortunately, and it costs us all far more
than her inflated salary.
10:32 am edt 

Town Moderator

Mary Jo did a great job running the town meeting as usual!  She deserves a lot
of credit.
10:15 am edt 

Thursday, April 10, 2014

Town Manager

I'm wondering what town manager with a good deal of experience is
going to move and live here for $120000. I know many people think it's a kings
ransom, but it's actually quite paltry for administering to this town's needs
and demands. Just because you think it should be adequate doesn't mean it is.
The last thing we need is an inadequate clown of a TM.
8:43 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

Maybe It's time for David Gardner to do an Investigation on the Brain
Carlson conflict of Interest

That is where this is. So, David, what are going to do? Call an investigation
and see whether Carlson is guilty or not. that is what you should do.
Oh..Oh..you were involved in this action weren't you? Maybe that is why you
might not investigate this illegal action by your health Agent.

YOU WERE THERE!
8:41 pm edt 

Re: Town Moderator

Moderator did a Fabulous Job

Three nights and three good meetings. Congratulations MaryJo, you did good work!
We should have showered you with flowers! Bravo! You kept us all together and
kept the many articles and positions intact. Not easy but you did it
beautifully!
8:40 pm edt 

Re: Shankpainter Road

Take a look at the site and see if they have a posted DEQE file # if not contact
the Consevation commission to see if the work has been approved.
Or contact the Massachusetts Department  of Quality Engineering.
8:38 pm edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

PETITION TO ABOLISH THE CAPE COD COMMISSION

Please support and sign the (online) PETITION TO ABOLISH THE CAPE COD
COMMISSION.

PETITION TO ABOLISH THE CAPE COD COMMISSION -
https://www.change.org/petitions/massachusetts-governor-state-legislature-barnstable-county-commissioners-assembly-of-delegates-abolish-and-shutdown-the-cape-cod-commission-or-alternatively-remove-its-land-use-regulatory-authority-thus-making-it-an-advisory-county-government-agency-

Please also circulate the link to the online petition and request that your
friends, family and colleagues support and sign it as well.

Thank you.
8:36 pm edt 

Candidates Night

Regarding Candidates' Night, does anyone know who is in charge of
making up the questions asked by moderator Ron Robin?  In the past, it has
appeared as though Ron puts together the questions himself. He is a very lovely
man, but he seems to keep things at a pretty superficial level. There is so much
to talk about, I think these questions should be provocative and well thought
out. We need to know how much the candidates know and how well they can
articulate their opinions. This takes real questions.
12:39 pm edt 

Shankpainter Road

I wondering if the wet lands cape cod excavating is diging in with a
machine if the bike shop has special permit to dig in wetlands at pond on
shankpainter road
12:34 pm edt 

Stakeholders

I agree with the notion that the entire community (including workers, renters,
et al) should determine the policies that govern them and have input, but once
you leave the community you should not tell others how to live their life's.
12:29 pm edt 

Provincetown Banner: Wicked Local

Ann Wood

Posted Apr. 10, 2014 @ 9:56 am
Updated at 10:04 AM


PROVINCETOWN
Provincetown Town Meeting gave the green light to one of four finance committee parking proposals that could push selectmen into hiking municipal parking rates anywhere from 25 to 50 cents an hour. The other three articles, two of which would have placed a burden on residents, were shot down Wednesday night.
One of the failed nonbinding articles would have limited parking permits so that residents would not be allowed in the Municipal Parking Lot and on Ryder Street during the high season. Another asked for a two-tier system that would allow residents to purchase permits at a premium so that they could park in the in those two locations during July and August. One by one, residents stood up and said no way.
“I love being able to park in that lot,” Peter Cook said. “You know, you keep taking everything away and you’re taking it away from the local people. … So please, let’s not screw around with that parking lot.”
Voters quickly dismissed those proposals, and another that asked to increase the parking rates in town by five percent every year. However, it was agreed that visitors could pay more, and a price hike from $3 to $3.50 an hour in the MPL, $2 to $2.25 in the Grace Hall Lot, and $1.50 to $2 in kiosks around town was OK’d. However, such a change requires a mandate by the selectmen.
A contentious debate in which Town Moderator Mary-Jo Avellar refused to hear an early call for a vote and ignored points of order made by Mark Weinress, chair of the planning board, and others, ended with voters nixing an amendment that would have allowed the removal of 2,000 cubic yards of earth without seeking a site plan review. Stanley Sikorski, a finance committee member appointed by Avellar, asked for the approval of the petitioned bylaw so that a duplex that he would like to build would not require a special permit that could be contested by neighbors.
However, other residents saw it differently. Native Deborah Minsky said that in the six decades that she’s lived here she’s seen changes in the topography in town, including a marsh that was removed from the East End and replaced by a motel.
“This is not about an individual project as much as it is a message we’re sending about how we want to keep our town,” she said.
With only 49 in favor of the bylaw change and 118 opposed, the town decided to stick with the bylaw it agreed to last October that requires a review for projects, including the notification of abutters, that wish to remove more than 750 cubic yards of sand.
The town further approved a flood plan overlay district, which amends the town zoning bylaw so that it will conform with the new flood hazard areas designated on the Barnstable County Flood Insurance Rate Map that was issued by the Federal Emergency Management Agency for the administration of the National Flood Insurance Program.
12:19 pm edt 

The Changing Sene

GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNTIY-PEOPLE LEAVING TOWN

I remember the post that was supposed to pull at our heart strings about folks
who will have to leave town because they can't find a place to rent.

One of them still owes me rent money-he left before he got more in debt. I saw
him where he works and asked about the money he owes--I owe my current landlord
a few month's rent and I can't pay him. Bingo!

Have you talked to some guest house owners who USED to rent out in the Winter? I
asked one. No he said, I learned my lesson.

Ask another if he can take a certain person in--the previous manager warned him
about this person.

People who live in their own little cocoons of upper middle class life in this
town have no idea about the goings on regarding the make shift, pick up job
group and the working groups--they just don't.

More and more this is going to be the Winter population here in town. There is
already an unofficial list of people to avoid renting too. I'm very glad that we
have the police force that we have--unfortunately I've needed them due to
tenant-roommate situations.

I've needed them when I woke up in the morning walked into the kitchen and saw
something on my kitchen table which I took to the police station--it was a meth
pipe. And then I walk into a place and there this person is working.

We can only give so many chances to people--and you will learn this as well, my
dears. You will learn this as well.
12:12 pm edt 

Provincetown Banner
 
Transparency sought for selectmen’s closed-door sessions

By Ann Wood

BANNER STAFF

PROVINCETOWN — On Thursday, April 28, 2011, the Provincetown Board of Selectmen met in executive session to discuss “personnel and the value of land.” Those minutes were kept out of the public eye until both matters were resolved. But, once they were and the minutes were released, turns out they didn’t say much.

“The board went into executive session at 4 p.m.,” then-selectman David Bedard, who served as the recorder, wrote. “Open discussion with Town Manager Sharon Lynn on her performance evaluation. Short discussion on the sale of the Hawthorne Property.”

There are no details about who said what about the former town manager’s evaluation, nor were there any words about the Hawthorne property.

The minutes note that Bedard and Selectmen Austin Knight, Elaine Anderson, John Santos and Michele Couture voted to go into open session. That is all.

Selectman Tom Donegan says that that standard is going to change.

“The secretary for the board of selectmen will take the minutes, rather than one of the selectmen, and those minutes will reflect the conversation so it will be clear what was discussed and how we came to the outcome,” he wrote in an e-mail on Monday. “The minutes will detail the discussion, while not a transcript, they will give the public the rationale of the discussion and who was the proponent- opponent of the actions.”

Donegan also plans to ensure the executive session minutes are released more quickly. Mary Timmons, secretary for the board of selectmen, said on Monday that on March 24 the selectmen released all of the executive session minutes from 2009 through 2012.

And, indeed, the newly released closed-door session minutes do include a bit more detail. Minutes from executive session on Feb. 19, 2012 say that the board unanimously voted to consider the VFW property on Jerome Smith Road for a possible police station and discussed the delay of a police station project article until 2013 fall Town Meeting.

According to the Office of Attorney General’s Open Meeting Law Guide “while in executive session, the public body must keep accurate records and must take a roll call vote of all votes taken and may only discuss matters for which the executive session was called.” It further states that the minutes must include a list of documents and other exhibits used at that meeting. “Records may be subject to disclosure under either the open meeting law or public records law and must be retained in accordance with the Secretary of State’s record retention schedule.”

Furthermore, there are only 10 reasons an executive session can be called. They include personnel problems, contract negotiations with employees, collective bargaining or litigation strategy, security personnel and devices, investigations of misconduct and criminal complaints, negotiation of property, some federal grants, personnel interviews, to confer with a mediator or to discuss trade secrets.

“Once disclosure would no longer defeat the purposes of the executive session [they must be disclosed], unless they are within an exemption to the public records law … or the attorneyclient privilege applies,” the open meeting law states.

Donegan said that won’t be a problem.

“When the reason for the executive session no longer exists, we will promptly release minutes that fully reflect the discussion and decision of the selectmen and staff,” he said, adding that though there will be three new selectmen come May, he doesn’t think they’ll have a problem with the new policy. Nor will Timmons have a transcription problem.

“The drafts of minutes produced by Mary [Timmons] have been very good and they will reflect the content of the meeting,” he added.
12:05 pm edt 

Provincetown Banner:
 
Candidates night set for April 17

PROVINCETOWN — A candidates night will be held from 5 to 7 p.m. on Thursday, April 17, in Provincetown Town Hall auditorium. Only the selectmen’s race is contested on this year’s town ballot. Candidates running are Cheryl Andrews, Robert Anthony, Wayne Martin and Raphael Richter. Ron Robin, of The Mews Restaurant and Dunes 102 FM, will moderate. Residents are urged to attend and ask questions. The event is jointly sponsored by Provincetown Community Television and the Provincetown Banner.
12:00 pm edt 

Thank You For Your Support


I want to thank everyone for the support and dedication. It has been a long 3 days and I saw so many of you in the audience during every one of the grueling days. It made me feel happy and thankful to have so many good friends in this wonderful little town. On the other hand I also felt bad that you have spent so much time on this issue and in the end we were not successful. Town voted against Article 37. This means the restrictive 750 cubic yard excavation limit, with a planning board review and special permit, is here to stay for the foreseeable future. Article 26 was also approved which expanded the Planning Boards authority a little further.

The Planning Board explained that they just want a “little more insight into projects where excavations exceed 750 cubic yards” and Provincetown residents accepted this. Actually what the Planning Board won is not only to get extra scrutiny into most projects, but more importantly the ability to stop those projects. They were successful in changing their role from an advisory one to being able to stop those projects which exceed one of several thresholds and are unlucky enough to have to go through a planning board review. This is a significant and un necessary expansion of authority. What’s worrisome is that the Planning Board has been systematically introducing new restrictive regulations, 4-5 regulations such as additional parking requirements, excavation limits, expanded authority in renovation projects, more.. They have plans to introduce more restrictions during the upcoming fall town meeting. I urge everyone to keep an eye on this worrisome development.

Thanks again for your support

PS we have a public hearing on our Project at 294 Bradford St. today at 6:30 in the town hall. This is the one special permit application that the Planning Board used as an example to show that the 750 cu. yd. limit is not preventing new projects. I’ve been going through planning board reviews for over a year now and every time I meet all of their requirements they move the goal posts. I addressed all of their requirements from the last review, but I’m willing to bet that they will have new ones at this meeting and I will not get the permit again.

Stan Sikorski

Cell: 508-367-8085

Land’s End Inn

22 Commercial St.

Provincetown, Ma.02657

11:44 am edt 

Provincetown Banner

Top job salaries cut back

Special Town Meeting voters nix police station study

By Ann Wood BANNER STAFF

PROVINCETOWN — The town saved itself some cash Monday night by lowering the starting salary for a soon-to-behired town manager and police chief, and further nixed a more than $45,000 design that would site a new police station at the existing location on Shank Painter Road.

But the 227 voters on the first night of Special and Annual Town Meeting OK’d nearly everything else, including an operating budget that, even with reduced salaries for the two top dogs, came in at about $23.1 million.

And, yet, some were so unhappy about lowering the pay for the future town manager that the finance committee’s amendment to reduce the salary from $149,000 to $120,000, which passed in a 136-70 hand count, was revisited with a compromise — 10 residents signed a petition to reconsider and wanted to budget the position at $135,000.

Selectman Tom Donegan said that he didn’t want to come back in August to say that a town manager couldn’t be found for $120,000, though he hoped the board would ultimately hire at that salary.

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Louise Venden, chair of the town manager search committee, felt that because the town charter mandates that the town manager live in Provincetown, the salary had to be high enough to allow for that.

Selectman Austin Knight agreed.

“This is the budgeted amount. That does not mean that you can’t negotiate under this number,” he said, adding that the town of Harwich had to up its salary twice so that it could hire an appropriate town administrator.

However, Cheryl Andrews, who is running to replace Knight for the remainder of his two-year term, stood against the motion for reconsideration.

“We hired above what we had in the bank … just about every time,” she said, adding that it’s a matter of negotiation. “If they find a candidate that they like that’s a little bit above [what is budgeted] then they’ll find a way to do it.”

In the end, the motion to revisit failed.

“So we’re still at $120 and that is that,” Mary-Jo Avellar, town moderator, said.

The salary for the police chief dropped from $134,310 to $110,000 (though it is thought that a chief won’t be hired until Jan. 1, halfway through the fiscal year, and thus the town would be spending only $55,000, saving $12,155 with the reduction). Sheila McGuiness of the building committee said that the chief’s salary shouldn’t be lower than what cops who work overtime and detail can earn. But that argument didn’t fly and the finance committee’s amendment, which reduced the future chief’s pay, carried in a hand count, 117 to 70.

School heat

Voters had no problem approving up to $300,000 for a Provincetown school building feasibility study, 50 percent of which could be reimbursed by the Massachusetts School Building Authority, regarding the repair or replacement of the heating system and windows and the replacement of the gymnasium roof.

Kerry Adams, chair of the school committee, said there was more than $300,000 left over from the exterior renovation of the building, which has improved the school and made it watertight. Though the boilers in the 83-year-old heating system were twice replaced, the rest of the system has not been and, he said, it is uncontrollable.

“It is either on or it is off,” he said, adding the school building is the town’s least energy- efficient municipal building.

Resident Barbara Rushmore tried to amend the school’s article so that the scope would only include the heating system and the price would drop to $100,000, but after schools Supt. Beth Singer said that the study would make no assumptions but would point the school department to what it should fix or replace, the article remained intact and was passed.

Police station study

The board of selectmen, finance committee and building committee all said that they did not recommend funding a feasibility study for a police station at Shank Painter Road to the tune of $45,300. A study had been placed on the warrant so that the townspeople could see that rebuilding the station at its current location would be prohibitively expensive and difficult. But Donegan said that the consensus is that the site of the former VFW on Jerome Smith Road is best.

“We do not believe it is worth spending public funds to evaluate another site or tell us what we already know,” he said.

Duane Steele spoke against the article on behalf of the Fin-Com, and the motion failed, with only a few hands popping up in favor of the study.

Budget & adjustments

During Special Town Meeting, voters also agreed to transfer around $225,000 between departments, rescind more than $2.2 million of unused borrowing authority, fund the collective bargaining agreement with the police union, and use $80,000 that had been acquired for the Veterans Memorial Community Center’s heating system for an air conditioning system there.

At Annual Town Meeting, which began at around 7 p.m., voters OK’d the expenditure of $180,000 for six Provincetown students to attend Cape Cod Regional Technical High School and about $780,000 for tuition and transportation to Nauset Regional High School and for a special needs school. Singer said that the 30.6 percent increase was the result of new negotiations with Nauset, which raised tuition more than $2,000 per student. But, she said, the five-year contract has a 2.5 percent annual cap.

“It is important to remember that we did not close the Provincetown High School to save money,” she said, adding that it was done because it was best for the kids.

One student who studies in an out-of-district residential program added $93,000 to that cost, which is the town’s “legal obligation,” Singer added.

The town also raised enterprise funds for water and wastewater, and approved $13,000 to fund an employee overtime dispute. It continued its revolving accounts and established a facilities and grounds rental revolving account in which up to $10,000 annually would be spent to hire janitorial staff and for other related costs.

The town OK’d $1,439 for greenhead fly control and passed all of its Community Preservation Act money, though there were some questions about the Local Housing Voucher Program that asked for $180,000. The new program provides three years’ worth of rental assistance and budget counseling to incomeeligible households to help them become self-sufficient.

Michelle Jarusiewicz, the housing specialist, said that it is modeled on similar Cape programs.

“This is largely very successful,” she said. “The idea is to try to get people who have the interest and the ability to graduate from the program.”

The Charter Review Ad Hoc Committee was the only group to give a report at the beginning of the meeting, and announced that it will seek input from residents regarding revamping the charter on May 21 at the council on aging.

At 10 p.m., Moderator Avellar struck her gavel to the podium and adjourned for the evening.
11:40 am edt 

Moderator did a Fabulous Job

Three nights and three good meetings. Congratulations MaryJo, you did good work!
We should have showered you with flowers!
10:41 am edt 

Town Moderator - Town Hall Meeting

Kudos to our town moderator-no partiality shown all three nights-one
classy lady!!!!!!!!!!
10:39 am edt 

Re: Article 26

Article 26 is in existence at present but only certain types of construction
trigger the review.
10:37 am edt 

Provincetown Banner

Ann Wood

A contentious debate at Provincetown Town Meeting ended with voters nixing an amendment that would have allowed the removal of 2,000 cubic yards of earth without seeking a site plan review. Instead, the town decided to stick with the bylaw it agreed to last October that requires a review for projects, including the notification of abutters, that wish to remove more than 750 cubic yards of sand. There were 49 in favor and 118 opposed. A two-thirds majority was required.
10:34 am edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

I've got this sinking feeling that all the ranting about Mr. Carlson
are going to go the way of the so-called candy land emails. Disappeared. And no
shame for the harrassment.
12:21 am edt 

Wednesday, April 9, 2014

Re: Stakeholders vs Wannabes

"where I draw the line is between stakeholder and "wannabe", which I
define as someone, who used to have a stake here, but no longer contributes to
our community in some way (i.e. any former resident, author, artist, employee,
tourist, second homeowner, etc)."


I completely agree. Those who have moved on should, basically, stifle their
opinions and suggestions. Many are bitter or reckless, and not around to bask in
the vibes their nastiness creates. They are the true puppet masters.
3:47 pm edt 

Re: Article 26

"The planning board is also introducing Article 26 which will require
a planning board review if you do any changes to houses in the high elevation
district. Today there are not regulations on this topic."



Maybe regulations are needed Stan. Seems like you want everything your way and
to your individual benefit. Let's hear out the reasoning behind the article
before jumping in your boat.

3:19 pm edt 

Re: Article 26

Article 26 is not a new regulation. It is simply a clarification of
the existing bylaw. We have always required decks and structures constructed
over existing structures in the high elevation district to undergo site review. 
It is felt that this should be more clearly stated in the bylaw. It is a
question we're often asked. Whether it is voted yes or no, this rule will
continue to apply, as it always has. This is just a clarification, not a change.

Mark Weinress
Chair, Planning Board
3:16 pm edt 

Town Moderator

The town Moderator does a disservice to the townspeople who attend
town meeting when she allows some people to go on and on and on.  In particular,
Ms Rushmore drones on needlessly about this or that and the moderator doesn't
keep discussion on topic.  Maybe frustration is part of the reason turn out is
rather low at town meeting.

Please keep speakers on topic and keep the discussions moving!
3:14 pm edt 

Re: Dan Hoort Charter Enforcement Commission Candidacy

Thank you, Mr. Groll, for ascertaining if a Provincetown resident
who's employed by the Town of Provincetown can serve on the town's Charter
Enforcement Commission.

Now the ball is Mr. Hoort's court - to resign from his position and run in a
year after his resignation, or just as an employee of the Town.
3:11 pm edt 

Re: From Dieter Groll

Re: Dan Hoort Charter Enforcement Commission Candidacy

Re: "I'm happy to provide a brief summary of yesterday's Charter
Enforcement Commission meeting, which as Tom Coen predicted, lasted little more
than a half hour, but not for the reasons he predicted.

It turns out, you see, that the Commission UNANIMOUSLY recognized immediately
that "in any way related" means "in any way related". Further, they correctly
acknowledged that Mr. Hoort is entitled to run, and is entitled to be elected by
default. HOWEVER, exactly as we have contended all along, should he take the
oath of office, without resigning his post as Finance Director, he would be in
violation of § 3-4-2 of the Charter. They further pointed out that even if he
DID resign, then under § 3-4-3, he could not serve on Charter Enforcement for a
full year after resigning his post. A written report of their UNANIMOUS findings
will be prepared and released by the Commission."



Are you telling me the Charter Enforcement Commission received your complaint
and did not even follow the process listed in the charter for addressing a
complaint?  Our own Charter Enforcement Commission does not even know the
charter they are elected to enforce?    The commission is taking an illegal
action to possibly remove someone from an elected office.  Holy crap, sounds
like a personal vendetta.  This could be another lawsuit.
3:07 pm edt 

Cape Cod Commission

2nd Cape Cod Commission Debate - Friday, April 25th at Cape Cod
Community College
3:03 pm edt 

Warrant Articles 26 & 37


Folks,


A friend brought a new serious situation to my attention. The planning board is also introducing Article 26 which will require a planning board review if you do any changes to houses in the high elevation district. Today there are not regulations on this topic.

This is another restriction in a series of restrictions being introduced by the Planning Board. It is alarming to see the number and scope of new restrictions either being imposed by the planning board on Provincetown property owners. Our basic property owner rights are being taken away without a good reason. I guess the few individuals in the planning board feel they know better than all of us what’s best for us. Please do not allow them to steal your rights,

1. Vote no on Article 26

2. Vote yes on Article 37


Stan Sikorski

Cell: 508 367 8085

Land’s End Inn

22 Commercial St.

Provincetown, MA 02657

www.landsendinn.com

mike@landsendinn.com

11:41 am edt 

From: Laurie Roles

Originally posted this in the Provincetown Voice where I am fairly
confident it will be ignored or ignorantly responded to. The general complacency
is astounding. I'm not sure people are aware of how many tenants have moved out
of Province Landing. I know of quite a few that are not relaxing in their units.
No-one listened to me or many other tenants about the perils of Province
Landing. The manager lied to the board of health and board of Selectman, an
integral document was never received or demanded by the town, tenants were
pitted against tenants, lack of rules and enforcement compounded the many
problems. Promised in writing everything was up to code-and it is not. Followed
by tales of repairs for some, promised resolution for others, nothing for
trouble makers and all at great expense of The Community Builders. The Health
Board opened an investigation only to then explore jurisdiction. The Building
inspector said he couldnt monitor craftsmanship and somehow tr!
anslated: an area of much greater concern to meeting all building codes from
the revised sound report, that I supplied to the Community Development
Department. The town noise by-law mandates you have to be 50 feet away to make a
complaint rendering it ineffective in one's own home and leaving the tenant with
no recourse. Unescapable 'thuds' causing sleep deprivation and people very
afraid to talk about it for fear of losing housing or being seen as a complainer
or an entitled complainer. Who is holding, The Community Builders, accountable?
This entire situation was a fumbled ball no-one wants. All lost to aesthetics
and the stigmata of affordability, this mentality is not affordable to the
tenant or the community. So yes, maybe the second, third floor, and the first
floor tenant who owns a condo in another state should be 'paying it forward',
but I think many of the first floor tenants who have not already moved may be
just trying to forget about affordable housing and get out and away from the
Big Shank.

Laurie Roles
11:35 am edt 

Stakeholders vs Wannabes

I propose we change the nomenclature from Townies, Residents, Business Owners,
renters, employees, Town Board members, Town employees, wash-a-shores, second
home owners, and tourists to "stakeholder" because these are the folks that have
a stake in Provincetown TODAY and contribute in some way or other to our
community.  I appreciate and welcome input from any of these stakeholders, but
where I draw the line is between stakeholder and "wannabe", which I define as
someone, who used to have a stake here, but no longer contributes to our
community in some way (i.e. any former resident, author, artist, employee,
tourist, second homeowner, etc).  It seems to me that there are many "former"
stakeholders that are trying to manipulate our little community through social
media.  While I welcome any input from a "current" stakeholder, I think that any
"former" stakeholder has "voted with their feet" and therefore forfeited their
right to provide input into how we run our community tod!
ay, regardless of whether they were born here or spent significant time here in
the past.  For whatever reason, they made a choice to leave, even if was a
difficult choice.  It's time to embrace the current community of stakeholders,
which is a cross representational demographic of wash-a-shores, Townies, second
homeowners, etc, who continue to have a stake in how Provincetown is managed
today and going forward.  Perhaps we need to set up a new social media page
named "Provincetown Current Stakeholders", which allows input from folks who
have a stake in Provincetown TODAY and not Provincetown in days gone by.  Just
my two cents.
11:24 am edt 

All Have Felt Failure

So much to be fixed and so stupid are these types of posts. Doesn't even make
sense on what you're writing. It would certainly help if you could come up with
solutions to resolve some of our bigger issues instead of writing about how the
AG likes to get her picture in the paper. She wouldn't have to get her picture
in our papers if people were honest now would she. Why don't you help resolve
the problems.Any ideas Einstein?
11:21 am edt 

Re: Russell Braun - Building Commissioner

OH, Are You saying Russ Braun is Leaving?

Is he taking the close to us town position? Is he actually considering it? that
would be good of us and good for him. get out of town while the going is good.
Sharon just made it--now he can leave and maybe the "issues" won't follow.
11:19 am edt 

Russ Braun - Building Commissioner

How do you know we won't have Mr. Braun much longer. Is he going somewhere
else?Did he tell you he would be leaving or are you speculating he is
leaving?Ive not heard anything about his going.
11:17 am edt 

Town Manager Search Committee - Public Forum

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Thanks,
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11:14 am edt 

Re: Look a Little Closer

"What is wrong with the people in this town. No one cares about the dunes that
have been destroyed by greedy people that come here to ruin the town. Look at
those ugly boxes built on the dune in the west end. Real shame."



Amen. But to be honest, I found that development ugly from the start -- chopped
from the dunes into its very own floodplain. Bloated, cheerless buildings on
tiny lots! Although I've visited many times, I never get a sense of life being
lived based on what I can see right away. Because I have friends there, I know
small gardens are tucked away in some back yards. But out front, I just see cars
and gravel and a bland look dreamed up by some realtors' association from Hell.
I'm reminded of the ghost town at the North Truro Air Force Station, but with
houses almost twice the size. This, too, looks and feels like a place planned to
serve a purpose for a time, and not a moment longer. Ugh!

-- Not the Epitome of Provincetown's Citizens
11:10 am edt 

Town Meeting Agenda Update- Article 37

Dear Friends and Neighbors,

TOWN MEETING AGENDA UPDATE- Article 37 is one of the last items on the town
meeting agenda should be discussed in 2nd half of Town meeting Tuesday April 8th
. There is a possibility that the Town Meeting may stretch into Wednesday April
9. If that would happen I will invite everyone Tuesday night after the meeting,
but please plan on attending Tuesday night in the 2nd half at the latest.

Article 37 Discussion Points:

  1.  Current By-Law - Article  4, Section 4015, number 5.  750 Cubic Yard
excavation should be amended to 2000 Cubic yards because:
     *   Negative impact in Provincetown
     *   Severe financial hardship on undeveloped property owners
     *   Forces all, but modest building projects to go through a difficult
and expensive process
     *   Special Permit is too risky for home building projects
     *   Will render many building lots unbuildable
     *   Will lose new property tax revenue
  2.  Started out as a 2000 Cubic Yard Limit, but was amended to 750 cubic yards
in the last minutes of the Oct. 2013 Special Town Meeting:
     *   Justified with inaccurate statements and dramatic exaggerations
     *   No analysis of 750 yd. limit for impact or fairness
     *   No input from affected property owners
  3.  No clear benefit, no business case
     *   Will not restore land lost development
     *   Will not create larger public open spaces
     *   Provincetown's Planning Board desire for insight into larger
project can be accomplished with tools that are fairer to all
  4.  Inherently unfair:
     *   Almost all developable land was developed without any excavation
limit
     *   Imposing this severe limitation on the remaining 2-3% of the
buildable land will not change anything, but will hurt their owners
  5.  If we need an excavation limit, let's get back to a more reasonable one,
Vote yes on Article 37

PS Don't forget to forward this to other people who are impacted by the Current
limit

Stan Sikorski
Cell: 508-367-8085
Land's End Inn
22 Commercial St.
Provincetown, Ma.02657
www.landsendinn.com<http://www.landsendinn.com>

From: Stanley Sikorski
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 6:05 PM
To: Natalie Sikorski
Subject: FW: Problems with current 750 cubic yard excavation limit and special
permits




The Planning Board introduced at the last Town Meeting zoning bylaw changes to
limit at 2,000 cubic yards the amount of excavation that may be done when
expanding or building a house.
If an excavation exceeded 2,000 cubic yards, then it would have to get a special
instead of a regular permit.  The Town Meeting was very long with very light
attendance.  A little over a hundred voters remained when the downsized limit to
750 cubic yards was introduced, almost a 65% reduction
from the Planning Board proposal.  The 750 amendment was defeated.   Many
people left.  Reconsideration was called.  The restrictive amendment then passed
by about a half-dozen votes.
With inadequate time to consider this critical amendment we did not have the
benefit of professional, factual inputs or any subsequent benefit analysis.
After six months it's obvious that the 750-yard limit is bad for Provincetown.
It robs owners of undeveloped land their equity and offers no benefits to the
town. In actually reduces property tax revenue.
WE need to change the 750-cubic-yard limit back to 2000 cubic yards because:

1.      It's too restrictive when it comes to building new houses. If you
build a house bigger than the example illustrated below you will need to do it
with a legally risky special permit.

2.      A special permit can be challenged and stopped by third party
initiating a frivolous law suit at any time and tie it up for years in
litigation.

3.      This size is not representative of Provincetown, which is made up of
a mix of architectures and building sizes.  Commercial and Bradford Streets are
made up of much larger buildings.

4.      This 750-cubic-yard limit robs value/equity from owners of any
undeveloped land without a valid reason.

5.      It can hurt Provincetown by reducing property tax revenue.

6.      The 750-limit was adopted by too few people who are not a
representative of our total population.

7.      Deliberate, erroneous examples confused people.

8.      The 750 amendment and its impact were not properly aired.

Please distribute this email to your friends and other concerned citizens, come
to the town meeting and support this important vote to bring back the more
reasonable 2,000 cubic yard limit.  Ask your friends to come to the town meeting
and vote too.  We can and should change this.



Article _37:  Zoning By-law Amendment:  Site Plan Review To see if the Town
will vote to amend the Provincetown Zoning Bylaw, Article 4, Sections 4015 as
follows:

4015.  Site plan Review by Special Permit a.  The following developments shall
require Site Plan Review by Special Permit by the Planning Board:
(1)  developments consisting of the aggregate of residential units that will
result in four or more residential units on any parcel; (2). developments
consisting of more than 2,000 square feet of new commercial area; (3).
development of properties consisting of an existing or proposed drive-through
facility or raised loading dock; (4). development of commercial properties that
have curb cuts greater than 25% of their existing or proposed street frontage;
(5).  All new construction or additions or any excavation, land removal or earth
moving of more than 750 2000 cubic yards that will alter the topography from
natural grade, whether or not subject to a building permit;


EXAMPLE OF WHAT SIZE HOUSE CAN BE BUILT ON A 750 CUBIC YD. foundation. Other
critical excavation not included

-          Excavation for septic system not included

-          Excavation for driveway & utilities access not included

-          Excavation for garage, landscaping, more, not included
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Too Small for families
[HOME FLOOR PLAN]





PROVINCETOWN UNDEVELOPED LAND SHOWN AS BLACK SHADED LOTS BELOW

-          80% of Provincetown dedicated to National Seashore

-          20% left for Provincetown proper

-          Less than 5% of Provincetown proper left for development, mostly
privately owned

-          Provincetown character already baked in, development of remaining
land will not change the town character or ambiance

-      We do not need to drastically restrict development of the few
remaining few private building lots

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All the best,
Stan Sikorski
Land's End Inn
22 Commercial St.
Provincetown, MA 02567



11:07 am edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

I agree the Cape Cod Commission posts are deadly boring.  You're
right...no one cares!  Please cull those longer than 2 paragraphs OUT!
11:01 am edt 

Re: Licensing Board - Meeting

I read the shameful exchange Steven Lyons had with the chair of
licensing - it was a doozy on the batshit crazy front. It wasn't even about
housing it was about licensing and the huge waste of town resources Steve Lyons
perpetrated on the town by not being able to get along with anyone. He harassed
his neighbor all summer- Ms Hatch said "you know Steve, your really talking
about something that you dont know much about. I never said licensing was done
in an arbitrary manner- I said "t's a complicated issue which involves a
judgement call as to priorities for man power and severity of the violation." I
was answering your questions - and politely I might add, I would like the same
in return please. Your comments are a bit of sour grapes because you didn't get
the outcome you wanted when you complained this past summer. I have now had 3
encounters with you regarding licensing and you have lied every time. I don't
really know what to think about that....." It's a wonder!
  anyone sits on a volunteer board these days- what boards is mr Lyons on?????
10:58 am edt 

Re: Moving to a Higher Level

A certain "artist" can't afford to live here any more he says as he
sells his house for $900 thousand dollars!! That is rich! Oh he blames his
business failing on music coming from nearby - not on his bad sophomore art! Boy
is this town full of crazies but this one takes the cake! Buh bye- moving on to
torture Chatham! Think they'll put up with your ranting there? Hahaha!
10:52 am edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

"What is published about this Brian Carlson is upsetting. this is
wrong and why is he still in the position as health agent? I am offended by what
he did."



What did he do?  No body has yet to show anything about wrong doing on his part. 
He signed an application for work as being received and showed the effect of the
work in terms of increased disposal.  He DID NOT APPROVE ANYTHING.  So what
exactly is offensive about that.
10:50 am edt 

From: Dieter Groll

Re: Dan Hoort Charter Enforcement Commission Candidacy

I'm happy to provide a brief summary of yesterday's Charter Enforcement Commission meeting, which as Tom Coen predicted, lasted little more than a half hour, but not for the reasons he predicted.

It turns out, you see, that the Commission UNANIMOUSLY recognized immediately that "in any way related" means "in any way related". Further, they correctly acknowledged that Mr. Hoort is entitled to run, and is entitled to be elected by default. HOWEVER, exactly as we have contended all along, should he take the oath of office, without resigning his post as Finance Director, he would be in violation of § 3-4-2 of the Charter. They further pointed out that even if he DID resign, then under § 3-4-3, he could not serve on Charter Enforcement for a full year after resigning his post. A written report of their UNANIMOUS findings will be prepared and released by the Commission.
10:48 am edt 

Re: Dan Hoort

"Why does this get you so worked up?  Are you really that much of a
public spirited citizen, or just another FinCom member pissed at Hoort?"


From what I've heard this is just an attack from D. Troll.  He doesn't have much
support on it, but for some reason he doesn't like Hoort.
10:44 am edt 

Re: Posted in the Provincetown/Truro Lighthouse - Food for Thought

"Sour Grapes" is a perfect description for you.  Maybe the commissions weren't
there because shoppers didn't like your work.  Don't blame the noise in the
neighborhood, blame your self.
10:38 am edt 

Re: Moving to a Higher Level

"If the BOS can't/won't do it, perhaps its time for civil
disobedience.  Let's stand in front of the tractors plowing up the land."



If you'll post here when you will be standing in fron of "tractors" I will
definitely  be there to take pics for publication in the history of PT.  By the
way, what's with the "let's"?  AI thought that you were speaking for only you. 
You have a crowd of backers?  Nice.
10:34 am edt 

All Have Felt Failure

"Then a poor soul puts up a home on a lot and is  annihilated by these
very same people. One word. CORRUPITON. They need to be stopped. I hope the
banner does and investigation on this. A fair one.Cannot wait to see
Elaine,David and Austin exit the town hall doors. They have done nothing but
pander to their little Clique. Oh and yes. Let us not forget Deb Payne and Cape
associates. Favorites of theirs as well."



Is there anybody in our tidy little town that is honest, or, in you opinion, is
everyone that is not you corrupt.  Have you ever thought about getting your
friends together and raising a few bucks to hire a lawyer to go after these
felons to save out tidy little town?  The AG loves to get her name in the paper
with tales of deceit and CORRUPTION.  She'll surely help root out the
CORRUPTION.  Go to it.  After the town is clean once again, I'll lead a group to
get a statue  to you on the grass in front of the Bas relief.  You'll be holding
a bad guy by the collar with one hand and waving transcripts from this blog in
the other.  Sweet.
12:21 am edt 

Tuesday, April 8, 2014

Dan Hoort - Finance Director

"If Hoort does covet the Charter Commission appointment so much, he
could resign.  No conflict then."


Why does this get you so worked up?  Are you really that much of a public
spirited citizen, or just another FinCom member pissed at Hoort?  He would be a
single vote so what damage can he do.  He certainly knows how the town actually
functions.
1:12 pm edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

Abolish the cape cod commission or reinvent it? you decide!

cape cod commission
http://www.capecodcommission.org/

massachusetts state constitution
https://malegislature.gov/laws/constitution

united states constitution
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_transcript.html

bill of rights
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/bill_of_rights_transcript.html

declaration of independence
http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.htm

Each and every Cape Cod resident has the ability (and responsibility) to decide
for themselves regarding what should and should not be done about the Cape Cod
Commission. Whatever one decides, their individual viewpoint can and should be
respected by everyone else.

Many of us employ the following general principles when making observations and
drawing conclusions upon this particular topic. They include:

Limited government
Individual liberty
Fiscal responsibility
Adherence to the U.S. Constitution and the Massachusetts Constitution, bill of
rights, and principles of the Declaration of Independence

If you take the time to apply these exact same criteria and principles to all
aspects, functions and operations of the Cape Cod Commission, then you should
also be able to draw some conclusions about it, your own conclusions.

The public discourse and debate involving the Cape Cod Commission currently
underway is the best thing that has happened to them in years. Raising public
awareness regarding the CCC to this high level and degree is something that
needed to be done. It is something that they themselves either could not do, or
did not know how to do. The Commission has always had trouble explaining
themselves and just exactly what it is that they do.

That part of the Commission's job is now being done for them!
12:50 pm edt 

I am Appalled

What is published about this Brian Carlson is upsetting. this is wrong and why
is he still in the position as health agent? I am offended by what he did. this
is a terrible example of what some town employees have done in the past and
obviously are still doing today. You need internal controls or else you just get
corruption. Seems like that is where we are.
12:42 pm edt 

Re: Food For Thought

You Move to Chatham because the Prices are too High Here? Chatham?

I'm confused. maybe buzzards bay. maybe fall river. but Chatham? than makes no
sense to me. Chatham is a very expensive place to live. Now will you be dining
at the chatham Bars Inn?

12:41 pm edt 

I Think They're Flipping Developers

It all began with Hargood House and from then on--buy, alter, do deals, rent to
your friends and sell to your friends--Sharon Lynn as example per
excellence--and then buy in the West End, live, alter, sell.

Flipping developers or developers who flip! take your flipping choice!
12:39 pm edt 

Russel Braun - Building Commissioner
 
Pretty soon we won't have Russ to kick around anymore but I'm sure we'll
continue to give him the shaft long after he's gone, blaming all zoning and
building issues we don't like on his tenure. But hey, we'll be an image in the
rearview mirror by then.
12:34 pm edt 

Town Meeting Question

I didn't understand the discussion last night.  It was voted to lower
the new town manager salary to $120,000, but then it was said we could pay more
if needed even if it wasn't in the budget.

I thought the budget was the limit to spending so I don't know how you can spend
more.  I'm not a numbers person so maybe it is just me, but I don't get how you
say you are limiting it to $120,000, but then you aren't limiting it.
11:40 am edt 

Mark Petteruti Posted in Provincetown/Truro Lighthouse

Be aware there is a big pot hole on Bradford Street Ext. Between the Meadows and the Dunes. It's deep and full of mud. The cars that come flying up the street get surprised when their cars get a wave of mud on them.
11:25 am edt 

State Ethics Violations

Sommeone mentioned there is a time limit on reporting possible ethics
violations. This is true. The time limit is six years from the date the incident
took place.
11:10 am edt 

Something to Look Forward to!

Gee Clarence, you publish your wife's work of fiction, 'Connecting the
Dots', but you won't publish the Provincetown Onion piece.

Oh well, don't worry about it, I suspect it will get heavy coverage on Facebook
and lucky you, you will be the next interview.

Something to look forward to!
10:57 am edt 

New Topic, Limbo Projects

1. Money was appropriated a couple of years ago to extend the bike path from
West Vine to the interaction of Bradford Ext. to meet up with the  Seashore
Trail.  I am hoping that they were waiting to lump it in with the
Project that they have going on out there now.

2. Money was appropriated to replace the fencing and do some other equipment
sprucing up at Doris Greensfelder Memorial Park. The road work is all done in
that area, just wondering what happened to the plan and or the money?

3. The Commercial St work looks great and thank to our town administration for
their efforts. NOW is there a plan to improve the rest of the town's road
infrastructure?  The administration in place at the time neglected to include 
RE- capping the roads and instead chose to only cover over the sewer and water
lines without resurfacing the whole road. (This is unheard of in other parts of
the Commonwealth,it is usually the norm for this type of work. ).

10:54 am edt 

Moving to a Higher Level

It should be quite obvious to everyone now that our town government is
unable/unwilling to protect us and the environment from the greed that surrounds
us.
To get serious, the BOS would have to get a grip on zoning and Russell Braun
immediately. Until then we will continue to witness those with enough influence
build whatever they want.
They don't really care about local outrage.  Their income comes from second home
owners and tourists.
If the BOS can't/won't do it, perhaps its time for civil disobedience.  Let's
stand in front of the tractors plowing up the land.
10:50 am edt 

Land Development

Ann and Harriet aren't developers; they're flippers.
10:48 am edt 

Posted in the Provincetown/Truro Lighthouse - Food for Thought
10:13am Apr 7
Mark Hatch and Michael Rogovsky and Others:
Yesterday Kristin Hatch wrote that my opinion about affordable housing is based on sour grapes because I didn't get the "answer" I was looking for in relation to a situation that negatively affected my former gallery located on Commercial St. Most of you will recall that the situation was that the CD store had its speakers aimed directly at my gallery, which caused me to lose customers and brought down the "quality of Life" on the corner my gallery was located on (the Gazebo katty-korner from Joe's Coffee.)
That "sour grapes" assessment is entirely false. And that sort of thinking doesn't even make sense unless you are simply trying to score points in public opinion. Let me explain:
The fact is,like others who have come before and who are here now, I can no longer afford to live in Provincetown. The reason for this is that I had to close my gallery -- my source of income -- in, essentially, late October. We faced many challenges in our location, and received no support from "town govt." to arrive at a solution. Yes, I looked for a different location, but after learning that a similar situation was occurring down the street, I had no faith that relocating in town was the right solution.
The decision by the town govt. and the closing of my gallery did not affect just me. It directly affected several people who were trying to help themselves by working.
One of those workers was Lisa Foley Meads, who suffers from health problems, and whose husband had suffered health problems. I think Lisa would agree that we paid her fairly -- or as much as we could afford -- and paid her commission on sales. With us, the sky was the limit in terms of commission, but given that our gallery was being negatively affected the commissions weren't what she or we had hoped, that's for sure.
Another part time worker was Myra Gold, who filled in when Lisa was not available. Carolyn Kramer also did a a few shifts with us. No one got rich, including us.
As the situation became more acute, we realized that major decisions would have to be made.
By late October of 2013 we had to, essentially, close our doors and tell Lisa that we could not pay her anymore.
By December we realized that we would also have to sell our house in order to survive. We have been in our home for 17 years - a house that was falling down when we found it and was a blight on the town. We worked our brains out to restore it, sometimes commuting daily back and forth to corporate jobs in Boston in order to have money to restore it.
But despite what Ms. Hatch wrote or what others may think, we do not have sour grapes. The "market" is the market (and in this case the "market" included the message from the town that they would not help us).
Consequently, our only choice for survival was to move to a place that we hope we can afford and have the support needed to run and succeed with our business. We have chosen Chatham because the property taxes are lower and the price for homes is less; equally important, the Merchant's Association and Chamber of Commerce works hard to insure that there is a level playing field for all businesses. Those are no guarantees for success, of course, but at least we have the elements in place that favor success. The fact that we didn't get to succeed in Provincetown will always be sad to us, but that is life, and sometimes the choices you have to make are very painful.
But again, we do not have sour grapes. The market dictated our life and we had to pay attention to the facts. Provincetown is a very tough environment and it isn't for everyone. As one woman posted, you can't make Provincetown available for everyone - just as you can't make Beverly HIlls or Hawaii or any other place available for everyone, as Mark Hatch has pointed out.
So, while I believe whole heartedly in affordable housing, I do think there are limits to who it should serve. If you can't afford Provincetown, perhaps you need to rethink if you're really meant to be here. I can't afford it, so....off I go. I'd love to stay but it's just not an economic reality for me. The buyers of our home are a well-heeled couple from L.A. and they are the new breed coming into town. I wish them well, and everyone else should to. They've worked hard for what they have, sometimes living in places they didn't want to live in order to survive.
So -- no sour grapes from me, my son or my partner and business manager. It is what it is...and that's that. Life has spoken. I get the feeling it's talking to others, too. If they decide to stay, is it anyone's responsibility to help them? To tell you the truth, I'm not sure.
10:40 am edt 

Town Employee's

How about having Russell Braun run for he zoning committee.  He's also
qualified to serve in his committee.  And while we're at it, how about Doug
Johnstone for licensing?  He's highly qualified for this committee.
10:30 am edt 

Posted in Provincetown/Truro Lighthouse

There's a lot of talk about "affordable housing" -- but here's another way to look at the topic:

1. Not all business owners are wealthy. But several of them here in town have real estate and personal portfolios worth MILLIONS of $$. They can even afford to develop even more property! So, is it everyone else's responsibility to provide their workers with housing? If we do, isn't it logical that the town and tax payers should benefit from the profits? In other words, a social program shouldn't be a one-way street -- or should it?
2. If they're seniors or disabled or a minor, of course give them all the breaks we can. But do you want to provide affordable housing for people who have chosen -- YES, CHOSEN -- to under-perform and have chosen to work in what we all know is a very tough environment? Hey, Ptown is a fun place -- when you have the free time to "play." But when did personal decisions of someone become the responsibility of the collective mass?
3. If a person has hours and hours of free time to spend on Facebook, does everyone else have the responsibility to provide that person an affordable unit wherein they can spend even more hours on Facebook? Lots of people commute, so why aren't they commuting to, say, Orleans and working in retail, the same as they are doing here for 5 months a year? The Flex-bus is very inexpensive, as we know.
10:27 am edt 

West Vine and Bradford Construction

Not only was the dune cut down at the West Vine and Bradford
development, but the land was declared to have endangered species on it by the
state.  One of the lots was set aside in exchange for the remaining land to be
developed but it does not look like the required measures have been put in place
to protect the environmentally sensitive areas.  Generally there are
conservation measures required to at least mark the boundaries of such areas. 
Not here though.
10:23 am edt 

Posted in the Provincetown/Truro Lighthouse

The building department and the inspector appear untrustworthy according to the PM's I've received. How can this inspector and dept turn it around, this lack of confidence?
10:21 am edt 

Observations From a Regular Reader:

The entertainment value of this blog is declining.  The Brian Carlson story is
unbearably boring but is royally outdone by the mind-numbing cape cod
commission posts. Trust me, nobody cares.

The only floating issue that is at all interesting and puzzling to me is the
library business.  There are consistent posts by (what appears to be) more than
one person. There are occasional angry posts made against the library
complainants, but no one has ever defended the library director.  No one has
denied the many allegations made.  This speaks volumes.
10:04 am edt 

What a Mess!
 
It is outrageous that Victor's restaurant KNOWINGLY added extra seats
that they were not approved for, and after years of breaking the law/rules, gets
rewarded with the water gallons!  Tom Donegan was right in not wanting to grant
the extra water gallons.  While Victor says that the restaurant couldn't make
money with the 33 seat he was granted, well then he should rethink the type of
restaurant.

Another example of just break the rules and deal with it later..

While town employees state that it is hard to enforce seating maximums, it
doesn't take a genius to discern from simply walking into Victor's that there
were way more than 33 seats!

Also what the hell is going on with all the building along Bradford and West
Vine!  Who approved such ugly town houses!  Dunes torn up!  What a mess!

You see Victor is in the good graces of Austin, of course Elaine, and David on
Bos. Also in good graces with a number of other boards. The only bos who has the
balls to stand up to him is Tom Donegan. Because you see, Tom is not in this to
further what is right or will serve to help his investments in ptown or pander to
any group. He is the one true hero here. Elaine turns a cheek every time she has
something to gain. And I agree, God help those she has nothing to gain from. She
becomes a pirahna.  Also, I believe the people of provincetown are not stupid.
They are smart. They have seen the "bline Eye" on the outright decimation of a
dune160-164 leveled without all proper building permits. Also Ron Reil's project
as progressed unscathed.Yes 22 condos in all- not totally sure but believe
upwards of 60 bedrooms total between both projects.  Oh and not one -yes you got
it NOT ONE to affordable. These two people are in with Elaine and Tom and
Austin. Maybe Russ. People something stinks here. Really. Something is very wrong
with  this and worrisome.

Then a poor soul puts up a home on a lot and is  annihilated by these very same people.
One word. CORRUPITON. They need to be stopped. I hope the banner does and
investigation on this. A fair one.Cannot wait to see Elaine,David and Austin
exit the town hall doors. They have done nothing but pander to their little
Clique. Oh and yes. Let us not forget Deb Payne and Cape associates. Favorites
of theirs as well.
9:54 am edt 

Affordable Housing Specialist

$77,125.00 wow thats a lot of money for a part time job, all these developments and we still haven't reach ten percent?
9:48 am edt 

Could This Woman on Provincetown Voice Just Get a Job?

She needs something to occupy her mind. enough already. One thread after
another. This poor woman needs to be occupied instead of constantly blogging and
blogging. Take a breath. stop for a moment---then speak. This is a nightmare.
Enough is enough.
9:46 am edt 

Baby, Baby, Baby

Blogs are blogs and the best are anonymous. C'est la vie these days.
9:44 am edt 

Dan Hoort

If Hoort does covet the Charter Commission appointment so much, he
could resign.  No conflict then.
9:40 am edt 

Monday, April 7, 2014

Re: Brian Carlson

If you don't want to get over it then take it to a higher level and lets start
discussing other topics for town govvernment on this blog. We should be looking
to come up with ideas on how to make provincetown a better place for us all.
Lets start thinking outside of the box and come up with solutions to make this a
better place to live in and be a part off.
9:37 am edt 

Sunday, April 6, 2014

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

Get Over Brain Carlson? He should be Reprimanded and fined and put on
Probation

What he did is unethical. This is illegal. I will not get over what Brian
Carlson did and how he gave himself a benefit that is illegal. This is corrupt
and therefore Carlson is corrupt himself. How many others did he sign
away and give them what they wanted when he should not?

Pretty face, but ugly soul.
6:01 pm edt 

Re: From: Dieter Groll vs Dan Hoort

"This is the latest iteration of our objection to Dan Hoort's
candidacy for Charter Enforcement -- now in the form of a complaint before the
Charter Enforcement Commission. "



Hoort should be allowed to run and voters vote for him. He is clearly qualified
to serve as a Charter Commissioner. This complaint should be directed to the
Board of Selectmen who must decided if a employee can be a Charter Commissioner.
And if so, can a Finance Director be a Charter Commission. Surely not.

The obvious conflict disqualifies Hoort as Municipal Finance Director, not from
elected office.
5:56 pm edt 

From: Dieter Groll

This is the Supplemental Memorandum to the complaint against Dan Hoort's candidacy for Charter Enforcement (posted under separate cover). This supplement demonstrates both judicial and legislative support for our radical theory that the phrase "in any way related" is intended to mean, yes, "in any way related". See what the Supreme Court has to say.
4:14 pm edt 

From: Dieter Groll

This is the latest iteration of our objection to Dan Hoort's candidacy for Charter Enforcement -- now in the form of a complaint before the Charter Enforcement Commission. Be sure to also read the Supplemental Memorandum, (posted under separate cover), with its shocking evidence that the phrase "in any way related" is intended to mean, yes, "in any way related". Find out who joins in the fray!
4:08 pm edt 

Donald Winter, Esquire

Just received news that Donald Winter long time Provincetown resident and prominent
Boston Lawyer passed away yesterday of a heart attack in San Miguel de Allende, Mexico, where he retired some years ago.
3:46 pm edt 

Re: West End Development

"Are the developers of the west end,dune declaimating condos really Ann
MaQuire and Harriet ? And I'm sure there's at least one affordable unit. Right?
I mean really."



No they are NOT the developers. The developer of the unit that Ann and Harriet
purchased is Ron Reil. Buddy of Russ Braun. nuff said. Then there is Victor-
leveled 160-164 bradford dune. Not a word from anybody. Again , nuff said.
3:39 pm edt 


"Are the developers of the west end,dune declaimating condos really Ann
MaQuire and Harriet ? And I'm sure there's at least one affordable unit. Right?
I mean really."


No they are NOT the developers. The developer of the unit that Ann and Harriet
purchased is Ron Reil. Buddy of Russ Braun. nuff said. Then there is Victor-
leveled 160-164 bradford dune. Not a word from anybody. Again , nuff said.
3:36 pm edt 

West End Development

Yes- the dunes that once were have been leveled- look at the old topo
map160-164 Bradford st-yet no outrage from anybody-someone goes to build a home-
war breaks loose. Goes to show you. Aint what you know-it is who you know-
Victor obviously knows the right people. Sad.
3:24 pm edt 

West End Development

Are the developers of the west end,dune declaimating condos really Ann
MaQuire and Harriet ? And I'm sure there's at least one affordable unit. Right?
I mean really.
3:20 pm edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

TOP TEN HIGHEST PAID CAPE COD COMMISSION BUREAUCRATS

According to the FY2015 Proposed Barnstable County Budget - page 253
http://www.barnstablecounty.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/FY15_APPROVED_PROP_BUDGET.pdf

The top ten highest paid bureaucratic positions on an annual basis at the Cape
Cod Commission are:

Executive Director = $171,967.00

Deputy Director = $101,797.00

Commission Counsel = $91,381.00

Chief Planner = $91,381.00

Technical Services Director = $91,381.00

2nd Deputy Director = $91,323.00

Fiscal Manager = $83,895.00

Chief Economic Development Officer = $83,895.00

Watershed Management Director = $83,399.00

Affordable Housing Specialist = $77,125.00
Senior Community Design Planner = $77,125.00

The TOTAL CURRENT ANNUAL SALARIES FOR THE TOP TEN HIGHEST PAID CAPE COD
COMMISSION BUREAUCRATS = $1,044,669.00

Please keep in mind that this only represents the cream of the bureaucratic crop
at the Cape Cod Commission. There are still dozens upon dozens of other more
minor and mid-level bureaucratic staff members who cost the taxpayers even more
millions of dollars for performing senseless studies, pushing useless reports
from one office location to another as well as attending various meetings,
workshops, and presentations all of which add up to big waste and abuse of
public funding when all is said and done!
1:34 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

"Brain Carlson approved his own application. he signed and approved
one bedroom and additional gallons. His name should never, ever have been on his
own application. this is wrong, illegal and shows another side of Carlson that
needs examination."


Wow, am I glad that you are not the town lawyer.  He DID NOT sign any approvals
for anything.  He signed the application as health agent acknowledging that
there would be increased gallonage under the plan filed with the application. 
That is not approving anything.  It merely stated that the intended project
would have an increase of 100 gallons
1:32 pm edt 

Additional Bedroom

No, I'm not stupid but you seem to be. He signed his own permit giving himmself
extra gallons. He singed his name under the Official use Only section that
requires approval of the Health Department.
1:30 pm edt 

Victors...

Agreed,this guy did the same thing thing on the Bradford street
House. He was given permission for 4 units,then came back
Crying he couldn't make any money to the commission.
Well,he got what he wanted. He knows what he is doing and
Can't be that bad of a businessperson.

He has connections and this is what's wrong with Provincetown!
1:28 pm edt 

Re: Why?

Because you have ignorant based sights like this where people do not have to use
their names. They have nothing positive to add to the community and like to keep
the pot stirred up without accountability. They will waste pages and pages of
this blog with their "beliefs" but will never put their names on the post or go
to the proper authorities with their accusations. Real complaints need to be
signed and submitted in writing to the proper agency. If people were really
concerned citizens they would want to promote peace and harmony for the town and
find ways to work together.
1:27 pm edt 

Re: A Rat in the Basement

RE: "Apparently I have as much time on my hands to post to Shout Out as you do.

End of discussion on my part."



Dear "Rat,"

Apparently you have a lot more free time than I do, as you found the time and
energy to go to the Home Depot website, calculate what you imagine the costs may
have been for materials, labor, etc. to carry out Mr. Carlson's renovations, all
in an effort to bring down a town worker and shame him publicly on this blog.

As I said, nastiness, pure and simple. Have you thought of maybe trying stamp
collecting?

Ha!
1:26 pm edt 

Feedback Request: Proposed Ballot Question

Please provide constructive feedback.

Roughdraft - proposed non-binding public policy ballot question:

"Shall the state representative of this  district be directed to sponsor and
affirmatively vote for special legislation to amend the Cape Cod Commission Act
which would  insert a provision allowing the directly  elected municipal 
governing body of a town within Barnstable County to override any decision by
the Cape Cod Commission  pertaining to any Development of Regional Impact (DRI)
and/or District of Critical Planning Concern (DCPC) located within the legal and
geographical boundaries of the town?"
1:23 pm edt 

Get Over the Carlson Thing. Jeez!

He signed his name to the application. It was reviewed by someone else and he
got his gallons. Where's the crime? And as far as crime, everyone in town hall
knows about it including the TM now and prior so whats the big deal? Also, it
happened so long ago that there is nothing the Ethics department can do. Filings
have a deadline after the incedent occured so move on! Carlson did the right
thing in reporting what he saw at Georges and now it's in the hands of the AGs
office. How many of you have sent letters and emails to the AGs office to stand
up for the FINCOM and their actions??? My money says nobodys has because you're
all too gutless and would rather tear down a fine employee who does his job on
and off the field with dignity.
1:10 pm edt 

Time to Raise the Rent

I own three condos. After reading all of this about affordable housing and what
a person pays for a one bedroom apartment--I have no compunction in raising the
rents on my year round rentals.

If one person is paying over $900 for a one bedroom teeny tiny apt with noise
and complaints..then my condos should be gong for $1,600 or $1,700.00 a month!
Thanks for the information.

1:08 pm edt 

Bradford and West Vine

Interesting that a house was built on a lot on Bangs St Ext and the
fact was plastered all over this blog for months and months with routine bashing
of the project, while in the West End at the corner of Bradford and West Vine
there was over one acre of pristine wooded land and dunes that is in the process
of being developed with 22 condominiums and barely a word is posted on this
blog.  Go see the lovely units being put up now.  This is the future of
Provincetown.
1:07 pm edt 

Victors

They fight the cupcakes and street singers because we are an easier target than
someone with the bucks to fight back and they know it not to mention there are
certain people that get special treatment. We all know that its obvious.
1:05 pm edt 

Victors

Darlings, one and all. It makes no difference what your opinion is. It's done!
Those wonderful men and old gal who we've elected to represent us have said yes!
And yes it is for me and my entourage from now until the end of summer!

I say Victory for Victor!

And have a drink on me love muffins

Darla
1:04 pm edt 

Health Agent

Why waste your time debating and complaining on it. if he is allowed to sign
then its a done deal. If he is not allowed to sign then he was wrong. you won't
get the correct answers here so why dont you just go to the proper
authorities. Just call the ethics department to find out if what he did was
allowed. The documents were on this site so you should be able to read them. Go
right to the source. Thats what Mr. Carlson did with FinComm he went to the AGs
office.I don't want to keep reading about this. Lets move on to better
discussions.
1:02 pm edt 

Re: Town Meeting

"So postings are appearing on fb pleading with people to attend Town
Meeting this coming week because of fear of low turnout. Why the hell would I
want to go to Town Meeting to hear the same nasty rants from the same people
that are attacking people like Brian Carlson now. You crazies wanted your
revolution well good freaking luck with it now."



Whoever posted the above is not thinking, if the ones who oppose the "crazies"
and troublemakers don't show up at town meeting, I guess the crazies WILL get
what they want, haha.
12:57 pm edt 

Brian Carlson- Dan Hoort

When did it become ok to commit unfair and illegal acts in carrying
out your town government job, be well paid for it, and get away with said
illegal act???? Brian Carlson should either resign or be fired from his position
of trust and propriety  because he has destroyed the public's trust in him. Who 
is running our town hall??!!

Also we should be having a public outcry with Dan Hoort running for the Charter
Enforcement Committee. This is a waste of time and money. If Hoort has to resign
his town hall job for the CEC, will he do that? That will be the option. A waste
of town money by the Finance Director!


by the Finance Director!
12:55 pm edt 

Look a Little Closer

"What is wrong with the people in this town. No one cares about the
dunes that have been destroyed by greedy people that come here to ruin the town.
Look at those ugly boxes built on the dune in the west end. Real shame."



Do you not realize Elaine Andersons's good gal friends Ann and Harriet purchased
here? THAT IS why Elaine has been so quiet. These dunes have been decimated. But
yet SHE is the first one to destroy any builder in town who dares to build on a
dune.  SMELLS. SMELLS  TO THE HIGH HEAVENS. Elaine. I ask you -how do you live
with your decisions??
12:53 pm edt 

Saturday, April 5, 2014

Victors

Break the rules and get rewarded with extra gallons, and you wonder why there is
no trust in government. The BOS should have said NO period. He lied when he said
he would be open year round, he has used extra seats for years and not even
hooked up to the sewer yet and then all the boards, ZBA, Licensing and the BOS
give him the extra gallons. Remember that his building were built over the
allotted size, no penalties, he didn't have to provide an affordable unit
because he promised to be open year round another lie. It doesn't take a rocket
scientist to walk into a restaurant and count the seats it takes 10 minutes, yet
they fight cupcakes and street singers. Unbelievable!!
10:50 pm edt 

Open Your Eyes and Look Again

Brain Carlson approved his own application. he signed and approved one bedroom
and additional gallons. His name should never, ever have been on his own
application. this is wrong, illegal and shows another side of Carlson that needs
examination.
10:48 pm edt 

Worst Kept Secret

When is Russ Braun going to Truro? I see they have articles in their town
meeting warrant that are catered to his needs. Everyone knows he's going, it's
just a matter of when. Has he submitted his resignation yet or is he waiting to
hear from the town meeting first?
10:46 pm edt 

Why?

This town has too many mean, nasty vindictive people who would rather
destroy it than learn to be reasonable and respectful in debate. We will always
have differences  but why do some need to destroy those who disagree with them.
8:48 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

"A recent post says it looks like Mr. Carlson only signed his own
application. I scrolled down and re-read what was posted and it looks to me like
he signed his own growth management application under the "office use only" and
assigned himslef gallons. It says he went from 440 to 550 and then signed it. Am I
misunderstanding something here or is a more recent post not understanding and
reading the application correctly. "



Yes you are stupid.  It is an application to do something,  and nothing, read,
nothing, was approved by the document.
8:46 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

" He gave himself one additional bedroom, while others were waiting in
the cue. then he approved--as the Provincetown Health Agent, his own property
and gave to himself the additional galloons. "


No such thing.      .  He approved nothing on that document.
8:44 pm edt 

Dear Ha!

Apparently I have as much time on my hands to post to Shout Out as you do.

End of discussion on my part.

A Rat In The Basement
8:41 pm edt 

Re: Film Festival

Who's the director of the Film Festival now?
8:39 pm edt 

Grinding Axes

"Rat in the Basement" clearly has too much time on his hands and an
axe to grind. SO MANY nasty people in this town. Good thing the tourists don't
know - we wouldn't want to lose any seasonal income. Lets just keep them
thinking we're all peaceful, kindly old hippies who just want to live an let
live.

Ha!
6:39 pm edt 

What a Mess!

It is outrageous that Victor's restaurant KNOWINGLY added extra seats
that they were not approved for, and after years of breaking the law/rules, gets
rewarded with the water gallons!  Tom Donegan was right in not wanting to grant
the extra water gallons.  While Victor says that the restaurant couldn't make
money with the 33 seat he was granted, well then he should rethink the type of
restaurant.

Another example of just break the rules and deal with it later..

While town employees state that it is hard to enforce seating maximums, it
doesn't take a genius to discern from simply walking into Victor's that there
were way more than 33 seats!

Also what the hell is going on with all the building along Bradford and West
Vine!  Who approved such ugly town houses!  Dunes torn up!  What a mess!
6:37 pm edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

Does the Cape Cod Commission's Chief Bureaucrat make $340,000 per
year?

Does the Cape Cod Commission's Chief Bureaucrat make $340,000 per year?  More? 
Less?

What about each of the bureaucratic underlings within the Cape Cod Commission
hierarchy of red tape? How many make over six figures?

Whatever the answer, it would be truly interesting to find out!

Why is this public information not readily available in the Barnstable County
Budget, or within its Annual Report?

Is there something to hide?

The Cape Cod Commission is really starting to appear like a not-so-transparent
county government agency!

Perhaps Commission bureaucrats might want to start changing their
not-so-accountable ways, especially since judgment of their wastefully abusive
bureaucratic practices by Cape Cod voters at the ballot box is guaranteed to be
an eventual reality!

4:40 pm edt 

Town Meeting

So postings are appearing on fb pleading with people to attend Town
Meeting this coming week because of fear of low turnout. Why the hell would I
want to go to Town Meeting to hear the same nasty rants from the same people
that are attacking people like Brian Carlson now. You crazies wanted your
revolution well good freaking luck with it now.
3:13 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

The signature in the office use only section simply verifies what is
being applied for (one bedroom) require 110 gallons of added flow.  The
documents presented still do not demonstrate that the additional flow was
granted.
1:27 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

Mr. Carlson did indeed sign his APPLICATION in the Office Use Only
section.  It is an APPLICATION!!!!  The documents posted DO NOT show that he
approved his own increase in flow.
1:26 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

" He gave himself one additional bedroom, while others were waiting in
the cue. then he approved--as the Provincetown Health Agent, his own property
and gave to himself the additional galloons."



I have yet to see anything that proves this allegation about approving his own
system without an outside opinion of applicability. How should he have done
this?  Exactly who did he get ahead f in the wait list?
1:24 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

I went to the Home Depot web site and shopped for doors.

I choose the least expensive Anderson 200 series door. (Which doesnt meet the
energy code and so cannot be used legally) they cost $700. $700×3=$2100.

The least expensive entry door I could find is $140. $140 ×3=$420.

$2100+$420=$2500 plus tax=$2656

Would anyone use this quality grade materials in a condo worth over $673, 000?

Stated value is $3300. $3300-$2656=$644

Lets say the owner does all the work. $0

This now leaves us with an estimated $644 to do the following.

Delivery of material, demolition, trash disposal, new wireing and lights for the
new doors, locks, exterior trim, sideing, insulation, sheetrock, interior
trim,painting, ,fastners, and other items Im sure Im missing.

Does anyone belive that this amount of material can be purchased for $644?

My point is that this stated value is too low and should be reviewed.

A Rat In The Basement
1:20 pm edt 

Mary-Jo Avellar

Nice response to yet another editorial by the Banner without all the facts!
Jim King
1:16 pm edt 

Brian Carlson

Or could it be that ptowns fees are the high compared to other
Cape towns????
1:15 pm edt 

Real Shame

What is wrong with the people in this town. No one cares about the
dunes that have been destroyed by greedy people that come here to ruin the town.
Look at those ugly boxes built on the dune in the west end. Real shame.
1:09 pm edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

A new complaint about the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission

Please pardon the parasitic overtones that will be found throughout this letter,
but the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission's taradiddles are now a staple of its
deputies' soliloquies. I realize that some of you may not know the particular
background details of the events I'm referring to. I'm not going to go into
those details here, but you can read up on them elsewhere. If my own experience
has taught me anything, it's that the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission has been
trying to convince us that anyone who resists it deserves to be crushed. That
argument fails to take into account the reality that the dictatorial Cape Cod
Commission has declared that it's staging a revolt against everyone who dares to
recall the ideals of compassion, nonviolence, community, and cooperation. The
dictatorial Cape Cod Commission is revolting all right; the very sight of it
turns my stomach. All kidding aside, its blandishments are like the Hydra from
Greek mythology. They continually acquire new !
heads and new strength. The only way to stunt their growth is to take away as
many of the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission's opportunities for mischief as
possible. The only way to destroy the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission's Hydra
entirely is to provide more people with the knowledge that it has called people
like me shiftless schlumps, featherbrained, procacious finaglers, and malapert
plotters so many times that these accusations no longer have any sting. The
dictatorial Cape Cod Commission truly continues to employ such insults because
it's run out of logical arguments. I suppose an alternate explanation is that
the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission has a strategy. Its strategy is to commit
senseless acts of violence against anyone daring to challenge its debauched
tricks. Wherever you encounter that strategy, you are dealing with the
dictatorial Cape Cod Commission.

Whenever anyone states the obviousthat the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission's
paroxysms are merely a fig leaf that hides its efforts to defy the rules of
logicdiscussion naturally progresses towards the question, To what lengths will
it go to arrest and detain its enemies indefinitely without charge, without
trial, and without access to legal counsel? Personally, I don't believe the
answer has anything to do with allotheism. Rather, I believe it involves the
dictatorial Cape Cod Commission's tendency to dispense outright misinformation
and flashlight-under-the-chin ghost stories. The dictatorial Cape Cod Commission
drops the names of famous people whenever possible. That makes it sound smarter
than it really is and obscures the fact that if the dictatorial Cape Cod
Commission is victorious in its quest to palm off our present situation as the
compelling ground for worldwide chauvinism, then its crown will be the funeral
wreath of humanity. While testy nutters claim to defend !
traditional values, they actually make mountains out of molehills. I don't get
it: How far do the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission's lies extend? I mean, when I
was growing up, we were taught that one should always try to challenge the
dictatorial Cape Cod Commission's claims of exceptionalism. Nowadays, it seems
that more and more kids are being taught that the dictatorial Cape Cod
Commission is the arbiter of all things. You can thank the dictatorial Cape Cod
Commission for this tasteless pedagogical viewpoint, especially given that it is
on some sort of thesaurus-fueled rampage. Every sentence the dictatorial Cape
Cod Commission writes is filled with needlessly long words like
philosophicojuristic and orbiculatoelliptical. Either it is deliberately trying
to confuse us or else it's secretly scheming to convince impressionable young
people that it is a paragon of morality and wisdom.

The dictatorial Cape Cod Commission repeats the term anthropoteleological over
and over again in everything it writes. Is this repetition part of some new
drinking game, or is the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission merely trying to
confuse us into believing that it is a martyr for freedom and a victim of
gangsterism? The answer should be self-evident so let me just point out that if
you were to try to tell the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission's faithfuls that its
publications are based on biased statistics and faulty logic, which, in turn,
invalidate the conclusions the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission draws from them,
they'd close their eyes and put their hands over their ears. They are, as the
psychologists say, in denial. They don't want to hear that we're going to have
to hunker down for a protracted war against the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission
and its coven. This will doubtlessly be a conflict of a type that, given the
external backing on which our opponents rely, is unli!
kely to end in a rout by either side. Even if the fighting ends at the
negotiation table, sensationalism is not merely an attack on our moral fiber. It
is also a politically motivated attack on knowledge.

There is still hope for our society, real hopenot the false sense of hope that
comes from the mouths of the most conniving snollygosters I've ever seen but the
hope that makes you eager to expose injustice and puncture prejudice. A few days
ago, the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission actually admitted that it wants to
hasten society's quiescence to moral pluralism and epistemological uncertainty.
Can you believe that? Perhaps the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission forgot to take
its antipsychotics that day. An additional clue is that we must do everything we
can to cast a ray of light on its small-minded rejoinders. Fortunately, stopping
to defend the ill-natured status quo and, instead, implementing a bold, new
agenda for change is an activity that's right in my wheelhouse. I even know
where to begin: by informing people that it has certainly never given evidence
of thinking extensively. Or at all, for that matter.

When asked to mend its ways, the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission will give
people a wink and a smile, but when the wheels begin to turn, it's business as
usual. As reluctant as I am to admit it, I would love to be a fly on the wall
near where the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission and its camp meet. I'd love to
hear how those vindictive, negligent Svengalis come up with their malignant
schemes for instigating acrimony and discord. Then, I'd finally be able to back
up my claim that the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission doesn't want me to win the
culture war and save this country. Well, I've never been a very obedient dog so
I intend not only to do exactly that but also to lead the dictatorial Cape Cod
Commission to resipiscence. If factionalism were an Olympic sport, the
dictatorial Cape Cod Commission would clinch the gold medal.

The dictatorial Cape Cod Commission keeps saying that diseases can be defeated
not through standard medical research but through the creation of a new
language, one that does not stigmatize certain groups and behaviors. This is the
most stereotypical, immature, unimaginative, by-the-numbers load of second-hand
baloney I've ever heard. The truth is that the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission's
obiter dicta are not witty satire, as it would have you believe. They're simply
the indecent ramblings of something that has no idea or appreciation of what
it's mocking. If you look back over some of my older letters, you'll see that I
predicted that the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission would cure the evil of
discrimination with more discrimination. And, as I predicted, it did. But you
know, that was not a difficult prediction to make. Anyone who has bothered to
learn even a little about the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission could have made
the same prediction.

You are, I'm sure, well aware that what the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission is
doing is Titoism in its most wishy-washy form. But did you know that the
dictatorial Cape Cod Commission's claims are pure tripe? The dictatorial Cape
Cod Commission has planted its surrogates everywhere. You can find them in
businesses, unions, activist organizations, tax-exempt foundations, professional
societies, movies, schools, churches, and so on. Not only does this subversive
approach enhance the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission's ability to take us over
the edge of the abyss of sectarianism, but it also provides irrefutable evidence
that from the perspective of those inside its gang, its bunco games won't be
used for political retribution. The reality, however, is that it's easy for
armchair philosophers to theorize about the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission and
about hypothetical solutions to our the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission problem.
It's an entirely more difficult matter, however, w!
hen one considers that you may be worried that it will alter laws, language,
and customs in the service of regulating social relations in the immediate years
ahead. If so, then I share your misgivings. But let's not worry about that now.
Instead, let's discuss my observation that I correctly predicted that the
dictatorial Cape Cod Commission would impose a narrow theological agenda on
secular society. Alas, I didn't think it'd do that so effectivelyor so soon.

Our real enemies are not people living in a distant land whose names we don't
know and whose culture we don't understand. Our real enemies are the dictatorial
Cape Cod Commission and all others who force square pegs into round holes. When
I first encountered the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission's ipse dixits, all I
could think of was, A clever liar can use the truth to tell a monstrous lie. The
dictatorial Cape Cod Commission doesn't use words for communication or for
exchanging information. It uses them to disarm, to hypnotize, to mislead, and to
deceive. The dictatorial Cape Cod Commission uses highfalutin terms like
roentgenographic and syncategorematically to conceal its plans to solve all our
problems by talking them to death. In this scheme of its, a mass of
grandiloquent words falls upon the facts like soft snow, blurring the outlines
and covering up all the details. We become unable to see that the dictatorial
Cape Cod Commission used to maintain that postmodernist, v!
itriolic chuckleheads are all inherently good, sensitive, creative, and
inoffensive. When it realized that no one was falling for that claptrap, it
changed its tune to say that it can achieve its goals by friendly and moral
conduct. The dictatorial Cape Cod Commission is indubitably a pestilential liar,
and shame on anyone who believes it.

Behold what a nice, thick, fat lie it is when the dictatorial Cape Cod
Commission denies ever having strived to give lunatics control of the asylum.
The dictatorial Cape Cod Commission always puts a fugleman in charge of
oppressing, segregating, and punishing others. That way, the dictatorial Cape
Cod Commission can feign innocence, as it wasn't the one who did anything wrong.
In fact, it can easily deny that I don't need to tell you that its sincerity is
as transparent as the icy, uncaring look in its eyes. That should be
self-evident. What is less evident is that its servitors tend to fall into the
mistaken belief that everyone who fails to think and act in strict accordance
with its requirements is a boisterous cutthroat, mainly because they live inside
a the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission-generated illusion world and talk only
with each other.

You shouldn't let the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission intimidate you. You
shouldn't let it push you around. We're the ones who are right, not the
dictatorial Cape Cod Commission. Now that I've been exposed to the dictatorial
Cape Cod Commission's maneuvers I must admit that I don't completely understand
them. Perhaps I need to get out more. Or perhaps at this point in the letter I
had planned to tell you that the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission's brain must
work very different from mine. However, one of my colleagues pointed out that
nothing is more mundicidious than presentismexcept perhaps its positions. Hence,
I discarded the discourse I had previously prepared and substituted the
following discussion in which I argue that there are some undiplomatic,
crime-stained ivory-tower academics who are hideous. There are also some who are
resentful. Which category does the dictatorial Cape Cod Commission fall into? If
the question overwhelms you, I suggest you check both. Let me !
conclude by saying that we who want to issue a call to conscience and reason
will not rest until we do.
12:57 pm edt 

Friday, April 4, 2014

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

Hey ratso, you ever think they might be doing some if not all the work
themselves.  Not everyone has to hire a contractor in order to install a prehung
door don't ya know.
11:43 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

Carlson Issues Own Gallons

A recent post says it looks like Mr. Carlson only signed his own application. I
scrolled down and re-read what was posted and it looks to me like he signed his
own growth management application under the "office use only" and assigned
himslef gallons. It says he went from 440 to 550 and then signed it. Am I
misunderstanding something here or is a more recent post not understanding and
reading the application correctly.
11:36 pm edt 

Permitting

There are several of us that have been paying close attention for quite some
time on what is being applied for and what is being issued.It's too bad the
employees have not been more careful.
11:31 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Helth Agent

The webmaster saw fit to not post a previous comment of mine concerning the application for an additional bedroom on Millerhill rd. Fair enough. May I try again?

I have seen the application for the additional bedroom on Millerhill rd. The construction listed involves replaceing two gliding doors, replaceing two entry doors, adding one additional entry door and one gliding door, and moveing interior doors. The listed value of this proposed construction is $3, 300. This dollar amount raises a red flag with me.

Anyone else?

A Rat In The Basement

8:04 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Edward Snowden

 

Glad we Have Our Own Edward Snowden

Thanks for the inside information on B. Carlson. I'm glad we have our own insider, our own Edward Snowden. thanks for revealing his improprieties. What's good for him is good for him. Let the others wait in line for their demands. Want a bedroom added? sorry, it is taken. Need additional gallons, sorry they are taken.

8:00 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

 

Im looking at this application for Brian Carsons proposed new bedroom. What caught my eye was the dollor amount for the proposed construction. They want to replace two gliding doors, replace two entry doors, add one entry door and one slider, and move some interior doors. All for $3, 300. That is an incredable bargain. Im being very conservative when I say it looks more like $10, 000 worth of work to me. Why would the applicant give such a low dollar value on the work? Is it because the building permit fee is based on the dollar amount? And this could save them a  few bucks? I cant think of another reason.  Can you?

And if someone lies about that kind of thing, what other things might be falsified?

A Rat In The Basement

7:56 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library


As a Library trustee, it's easier for him or her, to do business as usual, rather than face issues which may be controversial or unpleasant.


But, as trustees, isn't this group curious as to why there's been so many departures - staff, a trustee, volunteers, even patrons?

A common practice by many organizations is to conduct exit conferences by the administration and board members of organizations, and use the results from such interviews to help reforms late policy or practices. 

Maybe our library trustees should discuss at their next meeting doing something like this.

6:57 pm edt 

Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

 

If We are On a board and the Property Under Review is a Neighbor

and we are abutters, we must recuse ourselves. If the property is ours---we cannot sit on the case. We cannot rule in our own favor. that is clear and obvious.

this is what Brian Carlson did for his own property. He gave himself one additional bedroom, while others were waiting in the cue. then he approved--as the Provincetown Health Agent, his own property and gave to himself the additional galloons. Others were and are waiting for extra galloons but he gave them to himself. This is illegal and unethical and he should have been punished for this illegal transaction. No one can oversee their own property and gain from the permitting. His property increased in value and he gained from this action.

It is wrong and what he did was wrong. this is not  minor, not at all.

6:55 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Aget

I just read the Brian Carlson documents posted here.  It looks to me
like the only thing he signed was a PERMIT APPLICATION.  I don't see any
APPROVAL signed by him.  Am I missing something?
1:05 pm edt 

Nearing the Election

Thank you Bob Anthony for your commentary. I support you. But there are others
that are running and yet nobody has heard anything from them. What are their
views on what's happening in here and around Proincetown? What are their
backgrounds and why are they running? What are their plans and why should I vote
for them?
12:59 pm edt 

Rre: Fallen Boston Firefighters

Question...with the huge outpouring of support to the families of the
two fallen firefighters in Boston, did anyone from our "Historical"
Massachusetts town from any of our municipalities departments show face? I
happen to be working in Boston these days and witnesses it first hand. Being a
member of the PFD and PRS, providing fire safety and emergency treatment to the
injured I want to know who stepped up to the plate and went. I know of one young
man who is presently in the academy (fire academy) who stepped and went. Did and
fire/rescue,police, or town official go? I certainly hope the answer is yes. If
not shame on you Provincetown.

Posted by a former
Lower Cape Ambulance employee
11:20 am edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

Barnstable debate considers de-commissioning Cape Cod

The Register Newspaper, April 4, 2014
"Barnstable debate considers de-commissioning Cape Cod"  By Conor Powers-Smith
http://barnstable.wickedlocal.com/article/20140402/NEWS/140409101

BARNSTABLE - The Cape Cod Commission, the countywide organization that oversees
environmental issues and significant development projects across the region,
also has the power, albeit an unintentional one, to stir controversy. Voters in
several communities will decide on Town Meeting articles requesting a withdrawal
from the Commission in coming weeks; whatever the outcome of those votes, the
organization will likely continue to face criticism from some quarters, and
support from others.


Two of the more moderate voices in that discussion, one from either side, met to
debate the future of the Commission at the West Parish Meetinghouse in West
Barnstable on March 28. The event was organized by the 1717 Meetinghouse
Foundation as part of its Winter Debates series. Harwich Selectman Ed McManus
defended the Commission and Bourne Selectwoman Linda Zuern argued against it.


The churchs pastor, the Rev. Reed Baer, moderated the debate, which he
acknowledged is playing out in less formal settings across the Cape. Clearly its
a topic that people want to know about, he said. Its a timely topic.


McManus began by questioning the notion of withdrawing from an organization that
was founded on a regional basis, not by individual towns. Its an interesting
concept that were now considering this a membership body, said McManus, who
pointed out that the Commission came into being as the result of two Cape-wide
votes, in 1988 and 1990, both overwhelmingly in its favor.


McManus said Harwich had received approximately $1.8 million worth of services
and financial support from the Commission over the years, while being assessed
an amount just under that figure in fees. What this doesnt take into account is
all the other benefits the town has received during that period, he said, citing
expert advice and consultation the town would otherwise have had to seek from
private firms.


Zuern countered that Harwichs experience was not universal. Bourne, she said,
had seen economic development stifled by Commission decisions, notably in the
case of the proposed CanalSide Commons project.


The Commission has become an extra layer of unnecessary bureaucracy, Zuern said.
Bourne has been struggling economically ever since the Commission was created.


While the Commission might work for some towns, Zuern said, those who do not
judge it to be in their interest should be able to opt out. Each town should be
able to have the choice as to whether to belong to the commission or not, she
said. If the Commission is stifling economic growth, a town should not be forced
to pay the fee.


Asked whether towns could coordinate solutions to major regional issues such as
elevated nitrogen levels without an overseeing organization, Zuern argued that
they could, based on precedents of inter-municipal cooperation in other areas.
Towns are used to making agreements of understanding between towns, she said. We
do it with the police and fire. We support each other. We could also do that
with the wastewater treatment.


McManus said the price tag attached to nitrogen remediation made it unfeasible
for most towns to tackle it on their own, and that a show of regional
cooperation was necessary in order to garner state and federal funds for any
such project. A regional organization, especially one with expertise in the
area, was the best way to ensure effective and efficient remediation, he argued.
As we look at some of the more expensive systems that well have to
coordinatewell be able to size those systems that well be building so that
theyre no bigger than we need, he said. I think the activities of the Commission
are the best hope that we have for solving that problem.


No one from the Commission attended the debate. Its executive director, Paul
Niedzwiecki, said the organization was not invited to participate, but would
have if asked. We always take advantage of any opportunity were given to talk
about what we do, he says. If people really want to debate, they should invite
people who can come from a place of knowledge on this.


Niedzwiecki said the drive to convince individual towns to withdraw from the
Commission is misleading, as the process is not that simple. The Commission Act
was not opted into on a town-by-town basis, he says. Theres no withdrawal
provision. Theres certainly no provision by which a town could take action on
its own. A Town Meeting vote to withdraw would result, at most, in the question
being taken up by the state Legislature, which would have to pass legislation
exempting a town from participation, a step it is far from clear lawmakers would
be willing to take.

Broader attacks, Niedzwiecki said, are often ideologically motivated, or based
on misinformation, and those are the kinds of criticism he is most eager to
refute. Bashing the Commission, many times, serves unstated agendas on a local
level, he says. Once you get into the specifics, a lot of these general
criticisms, and just anti-government arguments, start to lose traction.

11:15 am edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

"You sir are a liar, unless that you can back this up with proof.  Exactly how
do you know that he knew "full well" anything."



Excuse me the papers were actually reposted so roll your eyeballs across the
property address and signature line. They were requested from Town Hall under
FOIA, which is how we know they are now "missing", so YOU sir are the liar.

Someone, I'm told, has requested more of the relevant documents under FOIA now,
as a matter of fact, and more information surrounding Carlson's signing of his
own permit. Because, you see, this isn't the only termination offense in the
corrupt action. I understand the substance of the request is to know if there
was anyone ELSE who had an application pending at the time this happened. If
someone did, this is much much worse and the town can be, yet again, sued for an
action of its employee. If there were not, then only the original violation
stands. Let me repeat, this is a termination offense for Carlson and none of
your dialog is going to change that. The       signed his own death warrant as
well as his extra bedroom and flow.
11:03 am edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission

CAPE COD COMMISSION - Organizing a Public Demonstration Against It
(Instructions)
http://ctb.ku.edu/en/table-of-contents/advocacy/direct-action/public-demonstrations/main
10:32 am edt 

Joining a Committee....

I had a personal experience a few years ago with the cemetery
Committee . Since I had made many phone calls to the heads of
The committee and Recieved no call backs on a question,I was
Finally told that attending a meeting was what I should do.
I arrived promptly,took my place and listened to old business's and new,
All along being eyed by several members,after all whom attends a
Cemetery meeting ? Mr Olsen,the chair,then asked what I was there.
Mr Olsen,the head of the committe asked why I was there, I stated
My concern for the upkeep of our historic Winthrop/ court street cemetary
And there plan for the cemetary. That's all I had to say,the head and co- chair
went crazy ,yelling at me and accusing me of things I never brought
Up. I was told there was a plan and I kept asking ,well what is it???
I was told to go see the grant specialist if I wanted a copy of the plan.
I wanted to know why abutters were not notified of the plan. Mr Olsen then
Told me,we can do whatever we want to do and don't need to notify
Any abutters. I left the meeting,picked up the plan,done by the people
Who did the library landscaping and it was page after page ot things I could
Have told them for free.
I was never treated as rudely as I was that day and said to myself that
I would never volunteer to a committe.
10:24 am edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

"The issue in this matter is that Brian Carlson knew full well the
illegality of the actions he was taking and chose to ignore the rules.
Subsequent to the application resubmission, the original application went
suspiciously missing from the file, So much for integrity.

This is not an allegation! This is an actionable charge of impropriety."



You sir are a liar, unless that you can back this up with proof.  Exactly how do
you know that he knew "full well" anything.

So you know how a file was missing.  Any chance that you took it?  You certainly
seem the type that makes false allegations of evil intent without any knowledge.
IF this is an actionable charge, then stop with the bS and make the accusation
to the proper authority, you coward.

In the world of the town moderator (allegedly at Georges) and he buddies in The
FinCom, Mr. Carlson's only crime was saying something negative about the FinCom
conspiracy crowd.
12:16 am edt 

Thursday, April 3, 2014

Selectmen Candidates

This town needs people with 20/20 vision.

Do the math...
5:47 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Dan Hoort

I am a former board member. Several of the board members attended a workshop
given by the town. State Ethics was a part of the workshop. If someone is
reported to state ethics and the person being reported is found in ethics
violation the fine is up to $10,000.00  That is where the figure comes from.
5:45 pm edt 

Re:Brian Carlson - Ptovincetown Health Agent

"Folks should know another situation about Brian Carlson. He and
Darlene, former Licensing Agent, refused to report to Russell Braun, Building
Commissioner."



Ok, here we go again with the attacks.  Deflecting won't make the complaint
against the FinCom go away, and the if it goes to a state board for a hearing
that board could not care less about your mean and nasty BS.

How do you know this stuff?  If it true do you have any idea about the reasons? 
Why have you attacked Braun here before but now hold him up in a different
light?

Look, I have nothing to do with Carlson, but find these sudden attacks to be
disgusting.  I know him by sight, but have never has any professional dealings
with him.  He seems like a very decent man who is possibly naive, but not
dishonest or corrupt.  Maybe he has been wrong in some permitting, possibly out
of ignorance.  I don't know enough to pillory him.  And, since I am not on the
FinCom and never been and never will be,  I have no axes to grind.

Why can't you all simply say, "We don't think that we were in error with that
gathering, but if we are determined to have been wrong, then we'll apologize and
move on a little wiser"  Not a major crime. Stop with the nutty defense.
5:34 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

"We don't know why Maghi, please fill us in."

Ha! Is that what you're using to disbelieve the library complaints?  You are
clueless. And I am not Maghi. Not even close.
5:32 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

"Why did  Mary Nicolini, Diana Maher, Mary Smith, Martha Hyams, Nancy
Sirvent and finally Anne Packard leave the library? What is going on?"



There are more names than that.

Sharon forces library director out and hires her own         who systematically
makes life miserable for long-term employees, volunteers, and patrons. She hates
everyone who was around before she was. Now that Sharon is gone, we really don't
know why she continues this and we agree that it doesn't make sense.

I mean this all literally.  She is MEAN, withholding, punishing, she pits her
own employees against each other, ridicules people in public, and she especially
devastates people who have been committed to the library for years. You can't
imagine how horrible it is until you've seen it or experienced for yourself.

She does not care about the health and future of the library AT ALL. She has an
entirely different (fawning) personality when speaking with people who have
influence over her job--it is a remarkable talent.  Her reputation is terrible
Cape-wide, to the point where she cannot even get an interview with other hiring
libraries on the Cape.  And she has tried.

I don't know what happened to poor Ann Packard. She has been one of the most
generous donors to the library for years and has allowed her beautiful gallery
space to be used for library fundraisers for years. She also donates a painting
(an Ann Packard painting!!) every year for the library to auction and keep the
proceeds.  All this for FREE. All this because she loves the library. Last year,
because the library was in need, she ran for trustee and won with an
overwhelming number of votes.

I imagine that, unlike the other library trustees, Ann knows and cares about
many of the employees, volunteers, and patrons and has spoken up to the director
in defense of them.  So, watching all this and getting no support from the
director or the other trustees was probably enough to make her walk. (And take
her future donations with her.)

The saddest thing of all is that no one in town management will acknowledge what
is going on nor will anyone address the library director in terms of her
attitude, attendance record, behavior, or doing the job she was hired to do. I
doubt this kind of thing would be allowed to continue in any other town dept.  I
fear it has continued because town govt doesn't see the library as important--I
know for a fact that Sharon Lynn didn't. It was her playground in which she
could hire friends, appoint her friends and WIFE to the board, and use those
people to clear out everyone else.

David Gardner, please do your job and supervise, chastise, or fire Cheryl Napsha
before she embarrasses the town more than you can imagine.

Mick Rudd, you have been on this board FOREVER--open your mouth. You know what's
going on. You know the quality and commitment of the people that Cheryl has
hurt. Stop going along with whoever has the most power on any given day. That
you let this happen to Ann Packard and to the library is unconscionable.

Townspeople, BOS members, etc., Provincetown taxpayers have paid MILLIONS of
dollars to create our beautiful library. If you don't think libraries are
important, please at least think of this wasted money.  Save the library!

5:30 pm edt 

Reposted as Per Request: We Are All Honorable Men & Women Until Proven Otherwise

On September 24, 2012 Brian Carlson acting in his capacity as Health Agent signed
his approval for the increase water use via a Growth Management Allocation Permit,
for the property located at 4 Upper Hill Rd, ignoring the fact that the property in
question was owned by him and his partner Joe Carleo.

Mr. Carlson’s rendering his personal approval was in direct contravention of state
and town law and an obvious conflict of interest, bringing into question the matter
of an ethics violation. When this matter was brought to the attention of the
Assistant Town Manager, to his credit, he required Carlson to resubmit the growth
application via the use of a disinterested party i.e. the Town of Truro Health Agent.

See Town of Truro Health Department Letter dated October 11, 2012.

The issue in this matter is that Brian Carlson knew full well the illegality of the
actions he was taking and chose to ignore the rules. Subsequent to the application
resubmission, the original application went suspiciously “missing” from the file, So
much for integrity.

This is not an allegation! This is an actionable charge of impropriety.

See Exhibits Below
BrianCarlsonI.jpgyBrianCarlsonII.jpg.BrianCarlsonIII.jpg

BrianCarlsonIV.jpg

3:49 pm edt 

Signatures for Dan Hoort Elections - Charter Enforcement Commission

Now some are Attacking Vincent Currier for Posting Hoort's list of
names that for signed for him

How odd and he is being accused as being McCarthy like in doing this. Free
speech as long as it's the speech some want. Well that is not free speech.

Vincent, so glad you did this. We all have the right to know and the list is a
bit scary. With the support of Austin Knight, that is all Hoort needs! And of
course Ann McGuire for added measure!
3:28 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

"We don't know why Maghi..."


Nope, not Maghi.
3:24 pm edt 

Dear Dieter Groll

You should send your finely written and detailed letter to the Attorney
General's office. It brings up all the points of conflict and they should then
make a determination from what you submit. Dan Hoort simply told him there is no
conflict. Yours is the letter that the Attorney General should receive.
3:23 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

Could you Post again the Documents Carlson filed? It has disappeared.

I'd like to see this again if possible. Can this be done? thanks if it can.
3:22 pm edt 

How Wrong You Are

What Brian Carlson did is not simply a little procedural issue. It is illegal.
He submitted documents for himself. He gave himself a bedroom. He gave himself
gallons. It is illegal to do this. And he should have been reprimanded, brought
to the ethics board and fined for what he did.

He is not upstanding but self-serving. And how many other documents did he file
for his friend, for those who gave favors to? That is the question that is
raised in what he did.

And where is the Banner editorial on this corruption?
3:19 pm edt 

Re: Banner - Letter to the Editor

I only have one problem with Mary-Jos letter to the editor.  It is the part
where she says I was allegedly present.   As the dates and times of the alleged
violation were clear in the complaint, she should be able to state whether she
was there or not.  Without regard to any other facts in the complaint, she was
either there or she wasnt.  If she wasnt there, she should have said so.  If she
was there, she should have said so.  Her use of allegedly with regard to her
presence on the date in question looks like dissembling to the average reader. 
I am not weighing in on the validity of the charges one way or another, just
stating what is obvious to me and probably others.

As far as yellow journalism and the rancor in town discouraging volunteers for
important committees, one needs to look no further than this blog to see the
roots of that problem.  Who would want to step up for anything when the result
is to be vilified and have ones name dragged through the mud?   With the posting
of the new list of names, I guess we can anticipate who will be next on the
smear list.  As I write, someone is probably down at town hall cross referencing
all the names to building permits and jaywalking tickets.
3:17 pm edt 

Re: Signatures for Dan Hoort

Thanks for Posting the signatures for Dan Hoort

Ann MQuire! Michelle Couture! Cass Benson! Austin Knight!
such a surprise!!
3:15 pm edt 

The Enterprise, April 3, 2014 - Cape Cod Commission

"Debaters Take Stands For, Against Cape Cod Commission"   By James Kinsella
http://www.capenews.net/bourne/debaters_take_stands_for__against_cape_cod_commission
3:12 pm edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

"Why did  Mary Nicolini, Diana Maher, Mary Smith, Martha Hyams, Nancy
Sirvent and finally Anne Packard leave the library?  What is going on?"



We don't know why Maghi, please fill us in.
3:11 pm edt 

Re: Robert Anthony

WHY DONT THE TRUTH GET PRINTED ABOUT ANTHONY

     I am so tired of reading of the self serving BS of Anthony patting himself
on the back and telling straight out      about who and what he is. Time and
time again I have posted the truth about him and his Campaign               but
it is never printed but yet I see far worse things in here about other people
and BoS candidates. Please stop being so obviously one sided or at least come
straight out and say your supporting him!

      I HAVE NEVER SEEN A MAN SO MANY PEOPLE HATE!!!

3:08 pm edt 

Brian Carlson - Dan Hoort

"Has he been assessed the $10,000 fee that is the cost of illegally
being corrupt and overseeing your own property as if--yes as if--it were someone
else's. But it is not, is it Brian? It is yours and your partner and therefore this is a
corruptive, Chris Cristie type of act."


What is the $10,000 fee for?  Where does that come from?  I calling someone"
corrupt" a disparaging remark?

Is the big guy in NJ a health agent?

Who did the final approval on the work for Brian and Joe?

By the way, why did the names of the signer of DH's papers get posted?  Guilt by
association?  More dismissing of the rights of people to back who they choose? 
Why?  I didn't sign and I'm not very sure that I would, but, even though it is a
public record, it seems as if it were posted not because of any thing like a
real need to know, but more evidence of a nasty vindictive attitude against
anyone who disagrees with you.
12:13 pm edt 

Banner:

Police offer citizens academy

PROVINCETOWN — Members of the Provincetown community are invited to participate
in the Provincetown Police Dept.’s Community-Oriented Policing
Citizens Police Academy.

The objective of this course is to allow citizens to learn about and observe first-hand the
workings of the police department. Participants will be instructed by members of the
department in a variety of subjects including role of police, community policing, powers
of arrest, search and seizure, the courts, patrol functions and procedures, drunk driving,
bike patrol, radar enforcement, dispatch and telecommunications as well as an overview
of the department’s regional and multi-jurisdictional efforts. These subjects will be taught
in various settings and will include hands-on experience.

“One of the keys to the success of this program is the enthusiasm and participation that
members of our community bring to our Citizens Police Academy,” Acting Chief of Police
Jim Golden said in a press release. “Community policing is a philosophy that is important
to the Provincetown police. Officers in uniform and marked police cruisers can give the
appearance of creating barriers which may impede our relationship and interfere with

communication.”

The six-week academy, from April 17 to May 22, will be held from 6 to 9:30 p.m.
Thursday evenings primarily at the police station. Some classes will be held at other
locations. Each student will participate in a ride-along with an officer during their patrol.

Applications and informational flyer are available at the Provincetown Police Station or
via the town website, www.provincetown-ma.gov.
12:00 pm edt 

Banner

Pier Corp:

Pier Corp. faces pushback on passenger fee hikes

Board continues public hearing to April 10

By Ann Wood BANNER STAFF

At least one charter boat captain and the owner of a whale watching company find the proposed
 higher fees at MacMillan Pier a bit fishy — charter boat owners think embarkation fees won’t
raise enough cash to make them worthwhile, and the whale watch owner feels targeted.
Though Provincetown Public Pier Corp. heard from the public about its proposals to change
regulations, it took no action and continued its public hearing to April 10. (The harbor
committee is holding its own public hearing the same day.) Rich Wood, captain of Beth
Ann Charters, told that board last Thursday that a proposed 50-cent per person embarkation
fees for all passenger vessels isn’t worth it and is unfair. Charter boats companies already
took a hit back in 2011, he said, when the floating dock fees for charter boats nearly doubled.
They were hiked from $2,228 to $4,000. (The highest rate in Orleans is $2,500 and in
Wellfleet is $2,800, said Wood, a former Pier Corp. director.) That fee hike, Wood said,
knocked some boats out of the harbor. He suggested that renting the three slips that were
empty last year at the pier would raise more money than embarkation fees.

“I looked at all the boats, and we do about 600 trips a year out of those 10 boats,” he
said, adding that he takes out about four passengers per trip. “You’re looking at potentially
getting $1,200 for the whole year.”

Dolphin Fleet owner Steve Milliken says that he pays the town $87,000 a year to operate
out of the harbor and also has to pay for the maintenance and repairs to his floats.
The pier is losing money, he said, “because of bad management” and a decline in the fishing industry.

“The float owners pay enough to the town and by far pay more of a burden than the other
tenants of the pier,” he said.

Though the Pier Corp. took no action, most members remained adamant that higher fees are a necessity.

Scott Fraser, a Pier Corp. director, said that the big costs associated with running the pier are
maintenance and staff salaries.
There’s no controlling when Mother Nature decides to wreak havoc on the pier and, Fraser
said,
Rex McKinsey, the town’s pier manager and harbormaster, is the second lowest paid on
Cape Cod.

“I don’t think if the taxpayers of Provincetown would come here and speak they wouldn’t
say, yeah, we’ll take a couple of
hundred [thousand] into the tax base,” he said.

But that’s exactly what Pier Corp. director Carlos Verde thinks should happen. He’s not
in favor of the across-the-board embarkation fee.

“This is like nickel and diming. I think the town itself needs to look at the pier itself and
they need to put money into it,” Verde said. “We already spent more than we actually
have [to fix the pier].”

Besides the embarkation fee, the Pier Corp. has also proposed a change in the
definition of resident, non-resident and occupant; new rules regarding the removal of
vessels, and transient docking rates that would be hiked from $1 to $1.50 per foot
for commercial vessels and from $3 to $4 per foot for non-commercial boats.
11:58 am edt 

Connecting the Dots - Required Reading

        , nice work in crafting "connecting the dots", no wonder the
Finance Director wants to get onto the Charter Enforcement Committee! That's one
way to protect your job. He realizes he's the last of Sharon's hires.
11:53 am edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

"And this is not just a whispering of maybes. You have posted the file
and this health agent signed his own file.  He gave himself a gain. He gave
himself a bedroom. this is wrong and I am sad to see that the document shows us
all how self-directed and selfish this young man has turned out to be.
this is wrong."



Yes, he was told that the procedure was wrong and it was corrected it seems, at
least according to the Town of Truro, that did the investigation. So exactly,
what is your problem?  He gave himself nothing.  He made an error that was
procedural and it was then corrected to follow the leagl procedure.  Outside of
the fact that he made a legitimate complaint against the FinCom why did this
come up.  It is a situation that was properly addressed.  His complaint may not
be upheld on review, but so what.  It is not a big deal or is the FinCom above
criticism?

Sounds to me that the above quote contains remarks that are quite derogatory,
but the blog master, who wrote the rules against derogatory remarks, doesn't
apply them when it involves his FinCom.  Oh well, life is never as fair as we we
would like it to be.
11:50 am edt 

The Provincetown Voice

FACEBOOK PAGE

The Provincetown Voice Facebook page with over 800 members has administrators
who want to direct all of the conversations in town to fulfill their needs had
105 people reading their posts in the last 24 hours.

Interesting. You take the 60 people who went to the housing summit and the folks
posting and the ones who live out of town and posting and you have your 100
readers.

It will be interesting to see where our new town government takes us and what
subsequent town meeting's center of interest will be. (Besides the ubiquitous
affordable/community housing issue).

It will be so interesting how this group will suddenly bring all of these jobs
into town and supply all of the needed housing. Meanwhile they attack our town
employees.
11:41 am edt 

The True Story - Sharon Lynn Legacy

Folks should know another situation about Brian Carlson. He and
Darlene, former Licensing Agent, refused to report to Russell Braun,
Building Commissioner.

So, what did they do?

They approached Sharon Lynn, Town Manager, and said they would quit unless they
reported to someone else. Sharon then appointed David Gardner, Assistant Town
Manager, to oversee the Department of Regulatory Management, with the
announcement that his appointment would help to improve the delivery of services
in the department.

Nothing was improved other than the addition of another level of bureaucracy in
the department since the Building Commissioner, by statute, is the only
authoritative individual to make decisions on building decisions.

So you can see now the reason David Gardner assisted, rather than disciplined
Brian as Jane Evans was terminated, because this would have led to an
embarrassing situation for Sharon Lynn in the choice this department head,
adding to the list of other poor choices including the police chief, building
commissioner and library director.

And the Board of Selectmen gave the Town Manager an outstanding evaluation with
all this deception.
11:40 am edt 

Robert Anthony - BoS Candidate

Dear Citizens,

As you may know I am running for a seat on the board of Selectmen.

I am a native of Provincetown; I was raised and educated in Provincetown.  I
have been a public servant since the age of 14, when I started my years of
service as a junior fire fighter in Provincetown, later I became a firefighter,
a rescue squad member, a DPW employee, a police officer, and then chief of
police of Provincetown. I joined the Navy served 4 years after graduating
Provincetown High School and I am a Vietnam veteran. When I returned home, I
started my employment with the town of Provincetown as a DPW worker; I later
transferred to the Police department. While in the police department I attended
Cape Cod Community College and received my associates degree. Deciding to
further my career, I transferred to University Massachusetts and commuted by bus
while working full time as a police officer in Provincetown. I was sworn in as
Chief of Police the day before I received my Bachelors of Science Degree from
the University of Massachusetts. I served as Chief of Police f!
or the Town of Provincetown from 1992 till my retirement in 2002.

During my tenure as  Chief of police I  aided in implementing Community Policing
and the No Place for Hate program, which  resulted in bringing our hate crimes
to zero in 5 years from 21. It also pulled our diverse community together, as we
worked together and grew together as a community. We were nationally recognized
as being one of the Countrys leaders in Community Policing and honored at a
breakfast in the East room of the White House with President Clinton. We
traveled throughout Massachusetts teaching the philosophy of community policing.
I hope to bring my experience and community spirit of our town to the table.
When hatemonger Reverend Phelps came to Provincetown in 1997, the town worked
together as a community and because of the mutual trust that we had developed,
we were able to avoid a bigger issue.

I am running because I am convinced that the people of Provincetown have lost
confidence in our town. Because I have such strong feelings about what must be
done, I feel that I am compelled to do all that I can to move Provincetown
forward. We need to get past the last couple of very difficult years, and move
towards a Provincetown that will be even better than before.  People must trust
again in their elected officials and those who serve to protect them. Our town
has accomplished much in improving our buildings, roads and year round rental
housing stock, but the work is far from over. We must bring forward a solid plan
to improve our off season tourism and economic growth, while being fiscally
responsible. If elected I will work diligently to increase our Year round Rental
Housing stock using a wide variety of ideas from the private sector and from
other similar isolated tourist destinations.  I would like to reestablish
community policing and institute community governmen!
t in our town. Each department head would hold regular monthly meetings to
build a relationship between community and government and address community
issues. By reestablishing and implementing strategies such as the community
policing committee and open communication with the public, we can avoid
misconduct and wrongdoing ahead of time and take proactive steps to eliminate it
when it occurs. We need public oversight and transparency for the people to
regain the trust of town officials and employees again. Community policing
allows the public to have a voice in their community.

Using the same philosophy, I would like to see a Community Business Committee,
which will address economic growth with an emphasis on year-round businesses and
employment.  We need to encourage new businesses and maintain our current
businesses by offering incentives to those who stay open year-round and employ
our town residents.  We have lost too many year-round businesses in this town. 
Seasonal workforce housing has always been the responsibility of the business
community but the town should assist and work cooperatively with the business
community to assist prudently wherever possible.  Easing our year-round housing
shortage and supporting and promoting our year-round businesses go hand in hand.  
Such things as a cultural center with classes and seminars in all forms of the
arts,  such things as conventions here during the off season, such things as
cooking schools taught by known Provincetown chefs and others from outside,  all
could bring people here in the off-seaso!
n and stimulate our economy.  There is so much we can and need to do and
Together we can move Provincetown forward! I believe that with hard work and
restored confidence; together we can accomplish the goals that are required to
move our town forward. I humbly ask that you consider supporting me for a
position on the Board of Selectman, in the town that I care so much about,
Provincetown. I ask you to vote for me on May 6th.

Thank you.
11:29 am edt 

Affordable Housing

The National Low Income Housing Coalition issued its yearly report last week on
the nations affordable housing crisis.  In California, FMR for a two-bedroom
apartment is $1,354, according to the coalitions report, Out of Reach 2014. In
order to afford that level of rent, as well as utilities, without paying more
than 30 percent of income, a household needs to earn $4,514 monthly, which works
out to $54,168 annually. In the preface to Out of Reach 2014, Barry Zigas,
director of housing policy for the Consumer Federation of America and former
president of the National Low Income Housing Coalition, suggests that FULL
EMPLOYMENT AT DECENT WAGES WOULD BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING
POLICY.

The point being that affordable housing is the symptom and lack of employment is
the cause.  Just something to think about.
11:20 am edt 

Oh, Yes Seems Nice and Sweet!

What's the worst case scenario, he'll pay a small fine to state ethics and all
will be forgotten. That's if it even gets reported.He made a mistake, like wee
all haven't made mistakes somewhere in our life time.
11:15 am edt 

Signatures to Nominate Daniel R. Hoort to Charter Enforcement Commission

Robert J. Klytta
Thomas F. Coen
Deborah JC . Kerr
Peter H. Okun
Ann M. Okun
Jacqueline D. Kelly
Maresa D. Felton
Austin P. Knight
John J. McGonagle
Michelle T. Lohr
Michael A. Valenti
Michael L. Calaman
Cassandra Benson
Joan W. Barron
Ann M. Maguire
Michele Couture
Michael T. Smith
Dianna H. Cavalieri
Cynthia A. McGonagle
Mary A. McNulty
Joseph M. LeBlan
11:10 am edt 

So Was B. Carlson Reprimanded?

Has he been assessed the $10,000 fee that is the cost of illegally being corrupt
and overseeing your own property as if--yes as if--it were someone else's. But
it is not, is it Brian? It is yours and your partner and therefore this is a
corruptive, Chris Cristie type of act.

Sorry but having your position does not entitle you to freebies and to doing
whatever you and your partner want.

This action on your part is wrong, illegal and you should have been reprimanded,
fined, and censured.

Did Sharon Lynn who viewed your executive assets as your good looks fine you?
she was quite discerning! what did this former town manager do?

These are the questions some of us are asking.

I wait for answers.
11:06 am edt 

Provincetown TM Salary

"The TM position pays more than a city with a larger crime rate and
more responsibility than required here. lets start focusing on what the real
intentions of this blog set out to accomplish."



Examples please, not of elected mayors but of professional hired managers.

If I heard correctly during the BOS meeting the high crime, more responsibility
town of Harwich hired a new town manager at $150,000 a year.
11:00 am edt 

Did David Gardner Bring This Breach to the Attorney General's Office

Should he have? should he just poo poo this as if it were insignificant? Isn't
this what the Ethics Board is all about? Conflict of interest. and this time
it's rather simple: It is Brian Carlson adjudicating on Brain Carlson's
property. It is Brain Carlson oking an extra bedroom for Brian Carlson's own
house. It is Brian Carlson rendering a decision on additional gallons for
himself.

Really? this is a case someone just swept under the town hall carpet? this is
how we lose faith in our  town government. It is what corruption looks like and
smells like. I am holding my nose. Do something Gardner and so it soon.
10:55 am edt 

Provincetown TM Salary

"Looks like you missed the point. It doesn't matter whether it is an
elected Mayor or an appointed or hired town official. The point made is the
salary amounts to paid positions. Managers, Mayors or the like making the same
as a small community with a smaller population and less crime. "


Sorry, but you don't understand municipal management.  The only qualification
for an elected manager, a mayor, is more votes than anyone else.  No management
skills required.  A town manager must possess a knowledge of budget preparation,
must know municipal law, must understand how the town government works, along
with the normal leadership and political skills required to run an organization. 
Totally, completely incompetent mayors have frequently been elected by voters
for any number of reasons.  A recent example is the mayor of Lawrence.  Mayors
have to hire staff to make up for their ignorance and inexperience in any number
of ways.  They all cost money.  Town managers usually have a staff to complement
them but it is never as extensive as that needed by a mayor.

But, you did not answer the question about what examples of the pay for several
examples that would prove your point.  You won't because you can't.  Salaries of
town managers are quite high.  Sometimes I wonder why, but they are.  PT is not
out of line.  Do the research on line.  It is all public info, and then you can
present fact instead of more of the same expressing opinion as fact until
challenged.
10:43 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

Why did  Mary Nicolini, Diana Maher, Mary Smith, Martha Hyams, Nancy
Sirvent and finally Anne Packard leave the library?  What is going on?
10:35 am edt 

Wednesday, April 2, 2014

Update From Dieter Groll - Board of Registrars

An update: It was a good hearing, handled perfectly by our Town Clerk, and it
went exactly as I anticipated it would. The Board of Registrars is ill-equipped
to make legal interpretations of Charter, and from a review of case law over the
last several days, I learned that they will rarely do so, instead leaving those
matters up to the courts. While frustrating, it makes sense, because at the end
of the day, it is easier to UNDO the election of an ineligible candidate than it
is to REDO an election for a candidate that was improperly disqualified.

In the end, I withdrew my objection from the Board of Registrars, changed the
first and last paragraphs of it, and submitted it as a complaint to Charter
Enforcement, as promised in today's earlier letter to the Selectmen. The CEC is
better-equipped and is well-acquainted with the Charter, and this is squarely
within their purview. It would be kind of poetic for the Charter Enforcement
Commission to be its own "savior", don't you think?  :-)

-- Dieter Groll
10:57 pm edt 

Oh, Yes Seems Nice and Sweet
 
But I am too surprised to find him acting for his own good. He gives himself a
bedroom. He gives himself more water. Is this what being employed by the town is
supposed to mean?

And this is not just a whispering of maybes. You have posted the file and this
health agent signed his own file.  He gave himself a gain. He gave himself a
bedroom. this is wrong and I am sad to see that the document shows us all how
self-directed and selfish this young man has turned out to be.

this is wrong.
10:52 pm edt 

Provincetown Housing

WE MUST CHANGE HOW WE VIEW NECESSARY HOUSING

There are many people who, if they had the means,  would reach out and give
someone a leg up in order for them to reach a goal for him or herself.
Unfortunately, in regards to the affordable/community housing situation in town,
it isnt giving someone a leg upit has turned into a demand of entitlement. Folks
are trying to turn it into a "Status Quo" situation.

This idea that anyone is owed a cheap rent because they wish to live in
Provincetown needs to be disavowed. It needs to be countered with the facts that
living here year round while only working 6 months of the year is simply not a
tenable situation any longer IF one needs to ask the town to provide them
housing.

This has distracted all attention from the true housing need of Provincetown
which is market rate rentals.  The incredibly vocal affordable /community
housing proponents give only consideration to their own needs. The town needs to
direct its focus on Market Rate Rentals.

However, anyone who is critical in any to the housing vocalists or who questions
their entitlement to this housing is painted as heartless and cruel-a Cruella De
Ville if you will--while its advocates are St. Francis of Assis, warm hearted
supplicants for the poor (at the taxpayers expense.)

The focus must shift. Every eight years there has been a housing summit since
1998. Month after month it seems there is a story about it or an article
relating to it in the Banner. At every hearing at town hall it is brought updont
put a building on that town owned lotuse it for affordable housing.  Dont buy
that building and convert it into what you wishuse it for affordable housing. It
is relentless.

Every issue has been directed towards affordable/community housing as though no
other issue exists.  What about the plight of the senior citizens on a fixed
income? Yes there is a reverse mortgage, but all over the country once the owner
dies, then the heirs are left owing  the banks a fortune to maintain owner ship
of the property or else it is sold to repay the debt. And there are seniors who
want to live here without having to sell and move away.

Every asset the town owns is being lobbied to be sold to go towards affordable
housing. If one is  running for office, you get clobbered if you dont have
affordable /community housing as your central focus.

We get it already. What the citizens of Provincetown will be voting on in the
future is how  the housing issue will be addressed; how it will be created, who
will be required to pay for it or what assets will be sold to finance it. And
ponder this: is it fair to sell assets for housing that can fund the school or
pay for the needs of the town to reduce the burden on the taxpayers. Yes the
town has a housing crisis--but it needs to focus on market rate rentals for
people who can afford to live and thrive here year round. They are the ones who
7:04 pm edt 

Market Rate Rentals

It has become evident from the studies regarding the people who can afford to
pay rent in Provincetown that it is the shortage of Market rate rentals that is
making people live outside of Provincetown.

So many people can't find an apartment. They have the income--just not
availability.

This is factor that is getting lost in the emotional swirl of any talk regarding
the housing situation in Provincetown and Great Cape Cod and other places as
well.

This is the issue that needs to be addressed.
6:56 pm edt 

Don't Use Our Flag as a Political Weapon

"("Take Back Local Control" Signs, and American Flags will be provided
to participants. Homemade signs are welcome too)"



So, since there will American flags waving, the local control must have been
usurped by a foreign power. Otherwise, what is the point of the flags.  Will the
flags have such things as: Keep your government hands off my medicare" or Don't
tread on me or Obama with a Hitler mustache.

Sorry, but, I agree that the Commission needs to be kept in check, as a veteran
who fought under that American flag, I deeply resent it being hijacked and used
by people who insist that only their ideas are American.  It is the flag of all
of us, even the people who like the Commission as is.

Don't use our flag as a political weapon.
3:10 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

Re: SELF INDUCED POVERTY

Clarence has made clear that you're welcome to post  claptrap every few days,
changing a word here and there with the same message: if you're poor in P'town,
SCRAM! If venting makes you feel better, fine, but don't pretend you're
convincing me to leave. Whenever I visit the real world, I'm quickly reminded
why I washed ashore at a fraction of my former salary. I lost the rat race, and
may have spared myself a heart attack in the process. Yes, I'd rather wring my
hands from season to season here, where I at least have friends, my art, beauty,
and a real life, than return to a land you say is flowing with milk and honey
and high-paying jobs. Anyone who reads the news knows the opposite is true. All
told, the P'town bohemian life -- what's left of it -- ain't so bad. Although
too many people leave, the hard core you dislike most will stay. We've learned a
thing or two about getting by. Meanwhile, we'll push for affordable housing.
Even when the business community perfects its q!
uest for a pliant J-1 workforce who'll work for pennies year-round, they, too,
will suddenly want the same things we do. Humans, you know! As a separate
matter, you may have noticed that a recession and real estate bust tends to
occur every five to ten years. I don't like what those do to P'town overall, but
when they happen they tend to hush mean-spirited remarks like yours for a little
while. I'd say we're about due...
3:07 pm edt 

From Dieter Groll - Board of Register

Folks, there's a HEARING of the Board of Registrars TODAY AT 2 PM IN CAUCUS HALL regarding my objection to Dan Hoort's candidacy. Hopefully, they'll surprise us and declare Hoort ineligible. It's more likely that they will punt the ball. Nevertheless, if anyone's around and bored, c'mon by Town Hall!

The objection is here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/452922831484047/507212702721726/

I've also sent the following as a heads-up on the "next volley" to the Board of Selectmen:

Dear Selectmen,

I am forwarding for your information the attached objection to certificate of nomination for Dan Hoort as an ineligible candidate for Charter Enforcement Commission in the upcoming election to be held on May 6, 2014. I intended to copy you on all Friday, but erroneously failed to do so, so please accept my apologies for the oversight. Apologies also if Messrs. Johnstone or Gardner caught my error before I did, and this is a duplicate.

Pursuant to M.G.L. c. 55B § 7, "Objections in towns shall be considered by the board of registrars of voters. Boards in cities and towns may, at hearings on such objections, summon witnesses, administer oaths and require the production of books, records and papers. Such witnesses shall be summoned in the same manner, be paid the same fees, and be subject to the same penalties for default, as witnesses in civil cases before the courts. . . . Such boards shall render a decision on ANY MATTER REFERRED TO THEM, pertaining to certificates of nomination or nomination papers . . . for . . . any regular or special city or town election,

To that end, there is a hearing of the Board of Registrars TODAY at 2 PM in Caucus Hall.

To summarize the issue, I maintain that Mr. Hoort is ineligible to serve both as Finance Director and Charter Enforcement Commissioner under Home Rule Charter provision 3-4-3, which states, "A paid town employee with supervisory duties shall not be a member of a town board which is IN ANY WAY RELATED to his employment during his or her term of office or for at least one year after leaving office" (emphasis added).

Town Counsel interprets the phrase “in any way related” narrowly under M.G.L. c. 268A, the conflict of interest law, and I submit that the Charter reflects the broader English vernacular interpretation -- yet still a legal term, but with clear contemporary usage and meaning -- which makes the Charter more restrictive than state law, as to be expected. It is unfortunate that Town Counsel has not seen my arguments in this regard within the attached, for Counsel might have been able to provide meaningful input to help the Board of Registrars reach the correct decision.

As a result, I anticipate that the Registrars will opt to punt on this question, and will allow Mr. Hoort's candidacy to proceed. Since Mr. Hoort is running unopposed, a "Charter showdown" seems inevitable. To that end, I will later today be filing a complaint to the Charter Enforcement Commission against "the Acting Town Manager and/or Board of Selectmen" demanding that they enforce the charter by way of preliminary injunction; and, failing that, in the event that Mr. Hoort opts to be sworn in as Charter Enforcement Commissioner, by demanding his resignation from his position as Finance Director, for any other outcome will be a violation of the Charter.
Respectfully,
Dieter Groll
1:11 pm edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission
 
CAPE COD COMMISSION-PROTEST DEMONSTRATION

("Take Back Local Control" Signs, and American Flags will be provided to
participants. Homemade signs are welcome too)

WHEN: Friday, April 11, 2014 at 7:15 AM (for approximately 2.5 hours)

WHERE: (In front of) PB Boulangerie Bistro, 15 Lecount Hollow Road (at the
intersection with Route 6), South Wellfleet, MA 02663

WHY: To help provide visibility that Cape Codders are actively protesting
against the Cape Cod Commission and its detrimental practices. Cape Cod
Commission bureaucrats will be giving a formal presentation the Cape Cod
Selectmen and Councilors' Association at that particular location on that
specific date and time.

COME AND JOIN US in a protest demonstration against the infamous Cape Cod
Commission!

Exercise your constitutional rights! Just show up at the site listed above on
that date and time.
(Coffee and donuts will be provided.)


1:07 pm edt 

Re: Remember Our Purpose

Looks like you missed the point. It doesn't matter whether it is an elected
Mayor or an appointed or hired town official. The point made is the salary
amounts to paid positions. Managers, Mayors or the like making the same as a
small community with a smaller population and less crime.
1:04 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

"We year round hard working taxpayers town aren't here to subsidize
your employees with housing for the summer as well as the people who want to
work six months a year and have us pay their rent for them while they traipse
off to Mexico, Hawaii, and Florida for three months."



I am in agreement about seasonal employee housing, however, your post is not
very constructive and it's tone suggests that all you want to do is vilify
anyone that feels differently. Two things that you have totally wrong here:  All
local business owners don't go off to other places for three months and I'm sure
that you know it. In addition, in my area there are quite a few places owned as
vacation places.  They too pay taxes and the few that I know are also very hard
working and really stretch their budgets to be able to have a place in PT.  I
know of two that keep second jobs to be able to live here part time. You have
managed to piss off a huge number of people just because they aren't just like
you. Maybe you might think a little more clearly when you express yourself.
12:54 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

GUILT ASSAULT

Why is that me, my family, my parents and relatives are all assaulted by the
people who want us to subsidize their rent?

We are called selfish and self centered, out for ourselves while we go about
living our own lives.

Now we are being assaulted for not wanting to pay the rent essentially of other
people who want to live here.

They want our town government to focus on their housing as the number one issue.
Well, Do you want to know the truth: Bad planning on your part does not create
an emergency on my part--please read this again..Bad planning on your part does
not create an emergency on my part.

Stop being a victim of your own choices and calling us cold hearted, indifferent
selfish people. We are trying to make a living a live here too--and we are
paying for it all out of our taxes.
12:51 pm edt 

Re: Remember Our Purpose

"The TM position pays more than a city with a larger crime rate and
more responsibility than required here. lets start focusing on what the real
intentions of this blog set out to accomplish."


Examples please, not of elected mayors but of professional hired managers.
9:26 am edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

SELF INDUCED POVERTY

You have chosen to live day to day with and seasonal work gig to seasonal work
gig with no thought to the future and now that it is here--you want the
taxpayers to support you.

This is the reality of the affordable housing push by these renters. Now it is
time to change the focus to reality.

The reality is that we need year round rentals for year round workers at market
rates. Not an affordable housing complex at a reduced rate as a reward for self
induced poverty.

It hasn't worked. It isn't fair and it is illogical. Stop the affordable housing
subsidy before even more people succumb to the belief that Provincetown should
take care of them no matter how irresponsible they are towards themselves.
9:25 am edt 

Affordable Housing - The True Housing Crisis

Provincetown needs market rate rentals for the year round workers who have to
move out of town due to a shortage of Rentals.

These are the year round people who would fuel the economy. These are the people
that we must bring back to town into apartments that must be created and be
available.

It is time to have a realistic, Authentic view of the housing situation. No more
affrodable housing push that leaves year round workers excluded.

We have had affordable housing complexes built for over 14 years now.The
taxpayers have provided land for affordable housing and we still lose
population.

Now we must concentrate on market rate rentals and let this be a way to re
charge our winters economy. This is what the B of S must concentrate on doing.
9:23 am edt 

Work Force Housing--Onus on the Business Owners

It isn't up to me to raise my family, work hard to support them and also work
hard to pay for housing for your employees.

You should provide housing for them. Not the taxpayers. You need workers for all
of your businesses--buy a place and set them up for the summer.

All of the businesses want the taxpayers to spend money--NO!

Let the community center be a start for workforce housing. Let the owners buy
some multi family homes and turn them into work force housing.

We year round hard working taxpayers town aren't here to subsidize your
employees with housing for the summer as well as the people who want to work six
months a year and have us pay their rent for them while they traipse off to
Mexico, Hawaii, and Florida for three months.
9:21 am edt 

Re: Provincetown Public Library

What are the library Board of Trustees doing to get back the Heritage
Museum murals that went "missing" recently from the back shed where the book
sales are held?  Why is no one talking about it?
9:10 am edt 

Tuesday, April 1, 2014

This Has become a Rich Resort Seasonal Town

That is the reality. It has become too rich for too many people. Affordable
housing is only the answer for a few. when the prices for homes, rents, and food
become too high, then people have to move. That is simply what has happened. It
happens in place after place and thus we have some coming in and some leaving.
It is reality, with its own sad consequences.
11:58 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

Thank You for Exposing Carlson's Unethical and Perhaps Illegal Actions

since when can you sign off on your own property. This is like the building
commissioner signing off on his own house or his own development. It is illegal.
this is more than arrogance. It is self-serving and based on the belief that
what is the rule for others is not the rule for oneself.

You might be in Vegas Carlson but your chances of wining at this table are
zero!! Feeling lucky? Wait till you get back here. and I hope we're not paying
for this trip. Checking out health issues in Vegas? Or taking more time off.
11:55 pm edt 

Remember Our Purpose

Please look at frequently asked questions section and re-read the last
question and answer given. Why are we not folllowing what are originals goals
were.

We are a small community and instead of consolidating positions as people
leave we fill those positions and some. How much more do we taxpayers need to
absorb. take a look at the salaries we are paying for some of these positions.

The TM position pays more than a city with a larger crime rate and more
responsibility than required here. lets start focusing on what the real
intentions of this blog set out to accomplish.
11:53 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

The more affordable housing this town builds the quieter this town is
in the winter.  We don't need anymore tax paper subsidized housing, we need real
jobs paying a living wage.  But who wants to set up shop at the end of the
earth, the cost is just too high.  If you love it here you have to choose
between living OR working in town.  Enough complaining about the self imposed
poverty of your chosen Bohemian lifestyle.
11:45 pm edt 

Re: Police Station

Just because some of us think it is more feasible to move the police
station to the VFW property, it doesn't mean we are on board with a bloated over
priced new station either.  We should build a new station that is appropriate in
scale and budget for our town.
11:32 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

To the person who wrote, "why do you do this to yourselves, go find a year round
job..."
  How on earth do you expect all of the businesses in town to operate if
"everybody left" to find year round work elsewhere?  You have to be blind to not
think that we have a housing problem here in town. 

We are a seasonal community and we need seasonal workers.   I own a business
and I can't find housing for summer workers, should I just close shop and move
elsewhere too? 

And before you get on your high horse... even though I own my own business I am
not making money hand over fist, it is a tough row to hoe here.  Yes I choose to
live and work here, and I think my business is an asset to this town. 

I am not asking for your charity, or your sympathy.  I make too much to qualify for
affordable housing, so I personally am asking for nothing.  However I also do not
make enough money to buy a home here and that makes living tenuous.  Not to
acknowledge that many of us year rounders can't compete financially with out of
towners who make six figures, is simply wrong.
 
The housing values are inflated because of this, and it is up to the town to do
what it can to help foster a more stable year round community.
11:31 pm edt 

Posted in the Provincetowen/Truro Lighthouse

LOIS LANE NEWS FLASH!

We have just learned that candy nagle has reincarnated on the candy land website as george hutton, so all five of her minions on that site can collaborate with her! lol
11:23 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

This is a Shocker.

What was B. Carlson thinking? did he think he was above the law? Obviously.
11:21 pm edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

One question: Was Brian Carlson Reprimanded for Breaking the Law?

Was he penalized? Was he taken to task? what did happen when he OKed his own
building, gave himself galloons and galloons and OKed a bedroom.

That is the question. What is the answer?
11:20 pm edt 

Let Us Confront the Real Issues

Could we all be adult enough to discuss real topics and stop the
stupid posts of "if you are entitiled to coment based on how long you have lived
here". 

Mr. Hatch will you post the response to your FOIA request.Will someone
post the outcome of the AGs findings with the complaint against the finccom?

Hows the police station discussions coming along.Will they be looking to come
back at town meeting to have it at the VFW location.
11:18 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

FIRST THOUGHT--SO TRUE

Just because you want to live here but can't afford it and living a wretched,
stressed full live because you chose to do so should not be a burden on the rest
of the people who work here year round.

This is an unsustainable lifestyle. The view of paying other people's rent or
subsidizing their rent or selling off assets to reduce the cost of living here
for some people is totally unfair.

They chose to work six months but they have a year round rent. All residents of
Provincetown need to look at this situation with fresh eyes. People moved here
and now it is too expensive for them--but it doesn't put the onus on us to
subsidize their chosen life style.
11:15 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

"BECAUSE PROVINCETOWN IS OUR HOME, A--HOLE. Perfect example of entitled
washashore...I've been in Provincetown 22 years"



Hmmm been here 22 years have you?  I guess that makes also you a washashore? 
You think you have are entitled to make other people pay for your housing?  That
makes you an entitled washashore.

I guess it all depends on how you look at it as far as who are entitled
washashores that is.
11:12 pm edt 

First Thought

We need a like button on this page, that post was great.
We also need a spellcheck and grammar check option for some  of the posters that
may have great ideas, but look foolish while trying to present them.
1:41 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

RE: "Dear People--why do  you do this to yourselves? . . . You could
move to another place, find work and be able to support yourself because you
would have YEAR ROUND eMPLOYMENT!"


BECAUSE PROVINCETOWN IS OUR HOME, A--HOLE. Perfect example of entitled
washashore.  You believe that just because you have money you are entitled to
displace those with less. I guess working class people should just travel around
looking for a place to live until wealthier people come along and claim it.  
Then we'll just move again.

Sure, I could move to Worcester, Lynn, or even Houston TX where I could find a
"real job" and be able to afford my rent. I'm sure you think that's where I
belong. I've been in Provincetown 22 years--excuse me if I'm taking up your
precious air or if people like me will cause your property taxes to increase by
$40.

Shame on you.
1:39 pm edt 

Dear 1st Thought.....

Because they love ptown,and most likely grew up in town.
How long have you been in town,I bet you're weekender.
1:29 pm edt 

Re: Cape Cod Commission
 
SHUTDOWN THE CAPE COD COMMISSION - Facebook Page
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Please "like" this Facebook page, and ask 5 of your friends to "like" it too!!!
We are shooting for a goal of 200 Likes by the end of the month.

Thanks!
1:27 pm edt 

Re: Affordable Housing

FIRST THOUGHT IN THE MORNING-LAST AT NIGH-HOUSING

I've been reading various Provincetown facebook page postings and I just don't
understand why the people who post about their dire situation where by their
entire existence is dwelling intensely on their life here because they rent!
From the time they wake up until the time they go to bed they are consumed with
their life style here and how fragile it is due to their employment and their
rental situation.

Dear People--why do  you do this to yourselves? Why are you making your children
live this life that YOU HAVE CHOSEN? You could move to another place, find work
and be able to support yourself because you would have YEAR ROUND EMPLOYMENT!

Why do you want to live in a place where you are demanding that other's
subsidize your rent? You want us to feel sorry for you while you spend your most
prized earning years in self induced poverty!

I want to live in Beverly Hills--hey folks who live in Beverly Hills pay my rent
there ok? That is what you are saying to people in Provincetown. This is so sad.
I can't feel sorry for people who want to  work part of the year and take 6
months off who then expect the rest of us to support them. times have changed.
9:57 am edt 

Re: fincom

"somehow I don't believe this one iota. what power? they are not taken
with power and they do what they do for---yes, us. they do not blindly follow
town manger nor finance director nor anyone else in town. they follow what is
best for us the taxpayers. that is their mandate and they, in contrast to past
committees, take this seriously."



I don't know why the fincom does their job.  For s, for their own egos?  I don't
care.  What we should care about is that they understand the job.  Their MANDATE
is to study the budget so that they can advise the town meeting on financial
articles.  How they approach that study seems to be up to them. The charter
defines their role in town government.  They don't define it.  You don't define
it.  I don't define it.  The LAW rules here not individual opinion.
9:54 am edt 

Re: FinCom

"This is the most erudite finance committee, with so many members who
have major corporate experience. They know numbers and can't be fooled as other
finance committees were."



And, that seems to be a major part of the problem.  Corporate finance and
municipal finance are far from the same. From what we see from their postings
here they think that they can do what seems like a good idea, instead of knowing
the limits imposed on them by the charter and other laws. The finance committee
must understand how the FinCom works with other components of town government. 
They don't formulate the budget.  They don't approve the budget.  They are not a
body charged with supervising the spending under the budget.

They are ONLY supposed to advise town meeting on financial articles.  They don't
get this and refuse to acknowledge their limited role.  So, it matters not at
all how good they were at the numbers game in the corporate world.  It matters
not at all how many advanced degrees they have in finance and economics.  It
only matters if they are willing and able to do the job of the FinCom as defined
by the law.
9:52 am edt 

Re: Brian Carlson - Provincetown Health Agent

Theatre

This is not about what theatre productions Mr. Carlson does or has done.This is
about him making the statement he is an upstanding citizen who felt compelled to
report something he witnessed against the finance committee yet here it is
reported that he has his own explaining to do.What are our tax dollars really
paying for. There are some of us that would like to believe the people we have
working for us in town government are working in the best interest of us
taxpayers and not for themselves. Seems there are more serious issues to be
concerned about instead of ones acting capabilities. Can we stay focused on what
the real concerns are here.FinCom is reported for having an illegal meetting yet
the complainant has violated as well.The question is what is truth here?
9:50 am edt 

Re: FinCom

If the Fin Com is watching over town finances why don't they tell the
BOS that the town should not be giving away the Goveia and Community Center
properties for pennies on the dollar.  At least Ted Malone purchased the
properties he developed for affordable housing at market rate.  There was enough
profit for him to purchase the properties at market rates.  Why should the town
subsidize the buyers of the Goveia and Community Center?  The taxpayers have
enough of a financial burden as it is and the town should be getting closer to
market value for these properties.
9:44 am edt 

Re: Truth and Reconciliation

Thank you to the person who wrote the "truth and reconciliation" post.
I'm one of the targeted also. Not being believed was the worst part.  And I
don't think that using the term "truth and reconciliation" means that anyone is
putting this on the level of murder or genocide. That's absurd, and just the
sort of comment that makes people feel more alienated.

It's not over. I wish that all the loudmouths on both sides of current issues
would take a breath, look around, and try to start repairing all that has been
broken.
9:37 am edt 


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