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Friday, January 31, 2014

Re: Senhora Jennifer Cabral

Ela é um  exibir-se e apaixonado por ouvir sua voz e com os aplausos da multidão. Ela adora a atenção! É muito triste vê-la perder seu caminho.

11:14 pm est 

Re: Jennifer Cabral


Ok, now you are attacking Jennifer Cabral?  Sounds just like when people gang up
on Barbara Rushmore, or anyone who takes a stand.  Nothing wrong with raising
your hand in class and speaking up.  Better than sitting on your hands and doing
nothing.  Yes, listening is a good skill to have, too.  But stop attacking
strong women (and men) with opinions who care about their community.  When they
stop talking, then you should start worrying.

11:00 pm est 

Friday, January 31, 2014

Catherine Russo

Interesting Nantucket Guidelines

WHO MAY QUALIFY?

Homeowners may qualify for the exemption on their principle domicile. For the purpose of this exemption, homeowner shall be interpreted as the “owner of record” * as recorded in the Registry of Deeds. The exemption shall be granted on the homeowner’s permanent domicile only. It is a rule of law that a person has only one domicile, though they may have several residences. Domicile defined consists of three elements; actual physical presence; at a fixed dwelling; with the intention to remain permanently. Each element must be satisfied to claim domicile.
In order to resolve issues of domicile, the assessor shall consider as many factors as may be necessary, including the city or town in which the applicant’s children attend public school, the address(es) used by the applicant on tax returns, driver’s licenses, bank accounts, motor vehicle and voter registrations. A copy of your 2011 State and Federal income tax returns (front page, top portion, showing address label only) must accompany all applications for this exemption.
10:56 pm est 

Re: Catherine Russo - Remaining Alert

And the Dead Welfare Queen Award for Ugliest Comment of the Day Goes
to:


"No dear, it is time to chill. The feminist movement did some things years ago
But your not restarting anything by claiming social injustice alive and well in
Provincetown. Join reality. This  a very positive and overly fair community.
And as far as the decisions being made by rich white men as you claim, the
reason they are in power as you claim, is because they are the ones that run for
the positions. You don't and haven't and even if you have and didn't get put on
a particular committee or commission it's because of your distorted viewpoint,
not your social status or income level."


Condescendingly sexist, gloating in its racism, and ignorant of the fact that
Catherine Russo is a member of the Finance Committee.

-Not the Epitome of Provincetown's Citizens
10:51 pm est 

The Times Are a Changing - Don't Repeat History

Some one posted that partime homeowners pay 70% more,that's because
they own 70% more of the Town!! Some one also sai that 3 members of the Town
Democratic committee were selected on the team to pick a Town Manager! The Town
Manager's position is not supposed to be political! Did you select any from the
Republican party then to equalize it?

It wasn't people that sold out years ago that ruined this town,it was the realtors that did that except they don't want to be told that simple truth!Year round homeowners should have an exemption and those year round homeowners without income property should have a bigger
one! They are subsidizing business while all on the same taxrate!

A lot of the same players now that have been incensed with Town Gov't for the last 7 years
were a part of the Bergmanites team for 17 years when he played more games than the
Celtics with Town's budgets & Government Agencies!

Where were you all then?Stupid is as stupid does!! People here on some regulatory
boards are voting for friends & clients and not stepping down! If names were listed you'd be surprised or maybe not! You know who you are and the Ethics
Commission and Atty. General will want to know too!

The one advantage of P.T.V. keeps the public informed w/o having to go to the
meetings but viewers know who is doing what & when with whom (behind the scenes).

Keep in mind that the Asst. Town Manager (now acting T.Mgr.)was the other 1/2 of
Sharon Lynn,in each others pocket and still are!! The Asst. Town Manager's position
is one that should be eliminated! We must start with a clean slate and now is the chance!
Another Town Manager and new Selectmen that haven't been there before!
10:47 pm est 

Robert Anthony - Selectman Candidate

Former Police Chief Bobby Anthony has thrown his hat in the ring to run for the Board of
Selectmen
9:21 pm est 

"Davide Gardner as TM"

Really? How do we know he will do a good job and not continue where the former
town amanager left off. Ater all, he did most of the work in the first place.
Please! What guarantees will we have that he will work for us taxpayers and not
have his own hiden agendas.
9:17 pm est 

Lame Duck Selectmen

Every year there are lame duck Selectmen serving.  You don't wait for
an election to move forward.
9:11 pm est 

The Welfare Queen is Dead!

After the words of a commenter below, I am forthwith and humbly

-Not the Epitome of Provincetown's Citizens

P.S. Jennifer Cabral, please continue to speak "with too much authority." Turns
me ON!
9:10 pm est 

Re: Catherine Russo - Remaining Alert

No dear, it is time to chill. The feminist movement did some things years ago
but your not restarting anything by claiming social injustice alive and well in
Provincetown. Join reality. This  a very positive and overly fair community.
And as far as the decisions being made by rich white men as you claim, the
reason they are in power as you claim, is because they are the ones that run for
the positions. You don't and haven't and even if you have and didn't get put on
a particular committee or commission it's because of your distorted viewpoint,
not your social status or income level.
9:08 pm est 

Re: David Gardner - Superb Prospective Town Manager

Town Manager Search Committee - Slow Down!

Town functions can't just stop and wait for the next election.  You are stating
that this committee is stacked, but their were only 13 applications and 10
people were chosen!  Why did "your" people not apply??

David has made it clear he does not want the job.  He worked very hard as the
Assistant Town Manager, attending meetings and taking care of day to day issues.
Now doing two jobs how long do you think he will last?

Let's keep moving forward before we lose him and other good people.

Concerned and Worried Resident..
9:04 pm est 

David Gardner - Superb Prospective Town Manager

I have great respect for David Gardner.  He has indicated he won't be
submitting his name for the search committee's consideration.

But what if the town, through the BOS, offered him the job?  Not to compete for
it, but rather offer it to him.  We would not only save ourselves time, money,
aggravation, but have a town manager that doesn't need to spend time learning
the community it's, and blah, blah, blah...we've all heard many times the crap
that the newly arrived town managers say.

David Gardner would be ready to be our Town Manager from Day 1!  And a superb
Town Manager at that.
6:39 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

RESCIND THE SEARCH COMMITTEE APPOINTMENTS NOW!

A BOS with a lame-duck majority, 3 out of 5,  should not be making decisions
about who should be in the Search Committee, or choosing the finalists for the
Town Manager's position.
6:37 pm est 

What's Wrong With This Picture

Let me get this straight:  A citizen and his significant other are
threatened by a police sergeant. The sergeant' swords mirror those of the Police
Chief.  The citizen brings the incident to the attention of the top town
administrator.  The incident is investigated by the top ad initiator and finds
no wrongdoing on the part of her subordinate, the Police Chief, and his
employee, the sergeant.

And some are posting here that due to the citizen threatening to sue the town
because of the threats to him and his partner, he was rejected for appointment.

I think this citizen should be hailed, given a huge apology and, not allowed,
but invited to serve on any committee he volunteers for.
6:33 pm est 

Austin Knight Resignation

"When will this stop?  He resigned!! It's over."


It will be over when I see that appointees for town committees aren't his
"disciples".  Like...Cicero, Maguire, Vetrick...
6:06 pm est 

PTV - Deutsche Welle Program: Edward Snowden Interview

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Snowden Exclusive - The Interview

Former NSA contractor Edward Snowden talks about his revelations, industrial espionage and death threats. He says the public has a right to know what the government is doing in its name - "and what the government is doing against it”. After six months of painstaking preparation, journalist Hubert Seipel succeeded in conducting the first television interview with Snowden since his flight from Hong Kong. The meeting with Snowden, who revealed the massive espionage activities of the US intelligence agency NSA, took place at a secret location.
5:58 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

Just A question

Many people signed the notarized petition to begin and initiate the Recall of
Austin Knight. then for days and days, so many others signed the petition to
recall Austin KNight,. there were numerous numbers.

But of those appointed to be on the town manager Search Committee, who among
that group signed any Recall Petition? You had more supporters of Austin Knight
and then others who failed to see the significance of Recall. So do we really
want a Search Committee filled with no members who signed the Recall petition to
get Austin Knight removed?

But that is what I see when I see the names and those personally appointed by
the BOs. You surely have three members--and those six nominees--who are Austin
Knght/Sharon Lynn supporters.

Is this change?
5:52 pm est 

Donald Vaughan -

Glad to hear that Donald Vaughan is a nice person. That hasn't come
through in the letters he's been writing for years in the Banner.  Mostly he
comes across as someone who believes he's smarter than everyone who lives here. 
Strangest thing is, though, I have lived here for 25+ years, have always worked
in town, been active in boards, have townie friends as well as vacationer
friends, and I and no one I know has ever met this man.  That is all. Welcome,
nice hardworking rich guy.
5:45 pm est 

Re: Real People

The soup Kitchen is Not Being Attacked

but still it is not seen as the epitome of Provincetown's citizens. there is a
clear disconnect here and that is what I saw someone addressing.

It was rather stupid and needed to be addressed.

Take a break, kid, You need to breath a little, if not more than a little.  You
have the spirit of the old Michael Rogosvky of Candyland.

Try posting on another blog. They might even like your rather odd opinions.
5:43 pm est 

Jennifer Cabral

She Speaks with too Much Authority

And there is little substance to her positions. energy, applause for herself but
she is missing the point. Good ideas, strong analysis that is what we need. Not
just jumping up to the mike--any mike that is in front of her-- and babbling on
and on.

5:41 pm est 

Re: "REAL People"

Re "To me, it seems, a swath of well-to-do, and mostly hard-working
people who express contempt for those who work as hard but don't have their
means."



There is contempt alright.  You've expressed your contempt quite explicitly for
those who by hard work or circumstance have more than you.  Not wanting to pay
more in taxes does not equal contempt of those less well off, just like opposing
a 14 million dollar police station does not indicate contempt for police.  Sure
second homes need services in the off season.  That's why we pay taxes to have a
police force and fire service.  Some of us even pay monthly fees to managers to
look after our properties when we are not there.


As for your welfare queen assertions, you are the only one who has used that
term on this board.  You even signed a couple of your posts "The Welfare Queen."
I think in psychological terms what you are doing would be called projection. 
You are masking your contempt for others in town by accusing them of having
contempt for you.
5:37 pm est 

Town Manager Search - Slow Down!

Several people on this blog have asked for the TM search to slow down
also citing the fact that The town is running quite well under the management of
David Gardner. So I ask, do we really need a TM and an assistant if the town
runs this well with only David doing all the work?
5:35 pm est 

Jennifer Cabral

Originally, Jennifer Cabral came from a good place, but of late she has become too
enamored with her persona. Of late she has on many occasion spoken without the
apparent engagement of her better self, as evidenced by her repeated need
to retract or modify her public pronouncements.

Observing Ms. Cabral,  I am reminded of the kid in class who always needed to raise
their hand, even before understanding the question.

Sometimes it is best to be silent and less visable; enjoy success but with humility and introspection.
 
Be as you once were.
4:39 pm est 

Oh, I See You're Back

Before it was that the Squealing Pig incident was over. Jeff was innocent.
Sharon did her investigation and we should all be quiet because it was over.

Now we have Austin Knight and your little tongue goes on and on about it is
over. NO. he is still in his position and we are not content to let this
miscreant stay there.

In fact, you do not determine our thoughts nor our words
4:03 pm est 

Re: "Real People"

Re: What Rodney King Said

Sure, "let's all just get along". But who began this latest beat-down? Who always
does? To me, it seems, a swath of well-to-do, and mostly hard-working people
who express contempt for those who work as hard but don't have their means.

The message is consistently ugly. We may run your shops, wait your tables and
clean your houses, but we don't deserve affordable housing, especially if it raises
taxes on your second homes that require government services year-round.

Or, this oldy-but-goody: we're welfare queens who winter in Florida making oodles
while illegally collecting unemployment and god knows what else. Right? Well, I don't.
I do go to the Soup Kitchen because I need to. And I VOTE, as do  others I see there each
day.

So, today posters are mocking Soup Kitchen people. Maybe that's just as well. My kind
has been underestimated quite a bit over the past year, and I dig the results.

Keep it up.
3:58 pm est 

Austin Knight

"Let's not forget that Austin threw a fellow Mason under the bus
whenhe wss doing the unpermitted work on the house formerly owned by Dixie
Federico!"


When will this stop?  He resigned!! It's over.  Stop already.
1:28 pm est 

Whacky is as Whacky Does

The real People at the soup kitchen? Maybe the Test Kitchen? Maybe Paula Dean's
Kitchen?

Are you simply out of your mind? Did you have a dementia moment?

those who could feed themselves and have money and go there and eat are the real
people? Please. such imaginary thoughts.

The real people are many who are here and who love Provincetown. they often live
simply and walk the beaches and are on the clam flats. They love Provincetown
and do not demand anything of us.

They are the real people.
1:26 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Public Library - Librarian Disabled

Who is the Head Librarian?

Who fell and who should we be concerned with? Please let us know.
1:23 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee - Open Your Eyes!

STOP THE  SEARCH FOR A NEW TOWN MANAGER NOW!! THIS IS WRONG. THE VERY
SELECTMEN THAT SUPPORTED SHARON LYNN AND JEFF JARAN ARE NOW THROUGH THEIR
APPOINTMENTS OF THE SEARCH COMMITTTEE EMPOWERED AND INFLUENCIAL IN THE HIRING OF
ANOTHER TOWN MANAGER. THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE THIS RIGHT!! I URGE EVERYONE WITH THE
SAME FEELINGS AS I TO CONTACT DAVID GARDNER !!!!PLEASE WE HAVE COME SO FAR. THIS
IS NOTHING MORE THAN A LAST DITCH EFFORT ON THE PART OF KNIGHT , ELAINE,
MCCHESNEY AND  ANN MCQUIRE TO STAY IN POWER.  PLEASE PEOPLE-OPEN YOUR EYES.
1:22 pm est 

Austin Knight

Glad He Resigned but..

Do we have to see his face very time we go here?

Oh, please, hope that face does not have to stare me in the face everytime I
want to see what's happening.

It's a     , as we used to say, that only a        could      !

1:18 pm est 

Slow Down People!

Given the timing of the search committee appointment on Monday and
AustinKnight's resignation on Wednesday, there is a lot of smoke here,
meaning that there will be fire later.

Let's stop this search process now until after the election and before we spend
a lot of money retaining a head hunter to whom we are contractually committed
and that then becomes the excuse why the search must continue.


I couldn't agree more. SLOW DOWN people!!  Why do you think it is the Ann
Mcquire group that is pushing to speed this up. You heard judy cicero. This
committee should NEVER have been chosen by this BOS> We need to wait until the
new BOS is formed. Then appoint the committee-oh what a different group it would
be-otherwise we are going to ALWAYS question ourselve. I do NOT UNDERSTAND THE
RUSH?? BECAUSE DAN HOORT SAYS HE WOULD LIKE A NEW TOWN MANAGER ASAP.
WHO IS HE?

I am sure David Gardner has the towns best interest at heart and would agree if
for the good of the town to stay on as acting town manager. BTW- everything
seems to be running VERY well and there is a whole lot more accountability in
town govt under his leadership. He is a very smart man who I find is very
approachable and truly listens. PLease - Tom and Erik- This is the wrong road.

Austin does not deserve to appoint to the search committee. At the very least
his votes should be recinded. This is outrageous. The guy has the audacity to
appoint 2 search committee members then 2 days later announce his resignation.
He still is calculating, manipulative and a puppet for Ann Mcguire.
1:08 pm est 

Catherine Russo - Remaining Alert

I don't need to chill. I don't belong to any group.  I have been
working for fairness in Provincetown for years and will continue to do so.  I'm
63 years old and I've worked for social justice for my entire adult life. I've
witnessed so many people get burnt out working for a better town and world. 
There are great folks in town who wouldn't go near a board position again.  We
cannot afford at this juncture to set people up again.  We could actually decide
to evolve and set up responsible government. In my days of feminist organizing
we spent more time on the process of how we were doing things than on actual
plans. I'm out front about what I am thinking.  I don't own property anywhere
and take care of the elderly for work.  I'm an educated member of the working
class and this is not the time to chill. I am grateful to all those who helped
bring about the changes that have happened.  I used to feel that I was walking
into a hostile world when I went in to town hall!

I know there are many in town who don't trust the promises of change. It is
important to be conscious about not setting up another insider power group and
concentrate on getting more disenfranchised folks to join us.

Catherine Russo
1:01 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

My gosh.  The BOS should have consulted you before selecting members
of the search committee so that you could appoint your friends instead of them
appointing their friends.  That makes lots of sense.  Why should we wait until
after the May elections?  The BOS we have was elected legally and they have a
job to do.  You don't like it because you don't want anyone that knows someone
on the committee unless it is you that they know.   Do you realize how silly
that argument is?
12:57 pm est 

Re: "REAL People"

The only "REAL" people in Provincetown are at the soup kitchen.  You got that! 
If you buy your groceries at the Stop and Shop, you're a fake.  If you eat at
town restaurants you're a fake.  If you own your own home and pay taxes, you're
a fake too.  If your home is a second home...well I don't even want to go there
you bunch of rich phony balonies!

The only people that matter are soup kitchen people so start paying us more
attention.  Tom Donegan, Mike Canizales and Catherine Russo...well they stop by
every now and then so us REAL people will give them a pass for now even though
they are fake too because they don't need the soup kitchen, they just stop by to
chat every now and then.  And remember there are no politics at the soup kitchen
which is why a certain misguided individual decided to interject politics into
this great endeavor.  Never let a few hungry people go to waste when they can be
used as a political prop after all.


If you made it through the above sarcasm ask yourself a couple questions.  What
would happen to the soup kitchen if all the "fakes" who had the means to donate
and keep it running stopped giving?  Aren't we a diverse community with people
poor enough to need food assistance one end and some very well off people on the
other? Can't you see that we are all real in spite of our means or lack thereof. 
In the words of Rodney King; "Why can't we all just get along?"
12:55 pm est 

Provincetown Public Library - Librarian Disabled

The head librarian of the library is out for an extended period with
an injury sustained in a freak fall at home, please keep her in your thoughts
12:51 pm est 

Provincetown Petition Withdrawal From the Cape Cod Commission

Hi. As you may be aware there is a movement and petition drive taking place
across the Cape to put a question onto the ballot in each town asking the voters
if they think their town should withdraw from the Cape Cod Commission. An
official petition for the Town of Provincetown may be found at the following
site:

http://barnstablecounty.wordpress.com/2014/01/31/provincetown-petition-withdrawal-from-the-cape-cod-commission/

If you are inclined to do so, we respectfully request that you please
immediately print out the petition provided, sign it and provide your current
voting address (and also collect any other signatures that you feel like), and
then either mail or drop off the petition to the Provincetown Town Clerk, Doug
Johnstone  260 Commercial St., Provincetown, MA  02657 by the end of next week.

For further information as to the reasons for the petition, please also consult
the following informational posting:

http://barnstablecounty.wordpress.com/2014/01/31/provincetown-petition-withdrawal-from-the-cape-cod-commission/

Thank you.

10:07 am est 

Start a Dialogue to Work for a Better PT

It really is a shame that so many posters here think that anyone who
has a second home here in an enemy of some sort.  Many of my neighbors are
second home owners and many of them hope to retire to PT, but they need to still
work.  Is that a bad thing?  Also, many, if not most, donate to the SK, so that
the poster earlier can be helped.  Is that a bad thing that they recognize their
social responsibility and have the means to help out?

Do you ever wonder what would happen to the SK and the Aids Support Group as
well as other groups if SHO no longer were connected enough to contribute?  What
about donations to the XMAS displays and the 4th of July?  Could we do it
without them?  Would they still feel like contributing if they were rejected
from everything in town except paying more taxes?  Do you know any SHO?  Have
you ever tried to engage them and find out who they are and what they want out
of life and living in town?  This enmity and warfare will not make anything
better for any of us.  Please try to start a dialogue to work for a better PT
for all.
10:05 am est 

Austin Knight

Let's not forget that Austin threw a fellow Mason under the bus when
he wss doing the unpermitted work on the house formerly owned by Dixie Federico!
10:03 am est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

I am writing to question the validity of the town manager search
committee process.

My reason is as follows:

Each selectman nominated two individuals. It is apparent that some of the
individuals who applied and were nominated by some of the selectmen  have strong
connections to selectmen and were appointed to represent their viewpoints in the
search process.

With David McChesney allegedly not running for re-election and Austin Knight's
position now open and Elaine Anderson probably running for re-election, how
valid is this search process with such self-selected individuals?

Shouldn't the Selectmen wait until after the election to appoint the search
committee based on the new composition of the Board of Selectmen?

Given the timing of the search committee appointment on Monday and Austin
Knight's resignation on Wednesday, there is a lot of smoke here, meaning that
there will be fire later.

Let's stop this search process now until after the election and before we spend
a lot of money retaining a head hunter to whom we are contractually committed
and that then becomes the excuse why the search must continue.

10:01 am est 

Austin Knight Resignation

His resignation should be effective immediately! Why should an individual (an
unscrupulous individual) that has been forced to resign, be allowed to continue
to make policy for our town? He is on the Town Manager search committee, which
is wrong, he is on several other town committees which is wrong! If he is not
going to be effective because of his untrustworthy past then get rid of him once
and for all. Also, Elaine Anderson should not be a member of the Town Manager
Search Committee, because of her past blind allegence to Sharon Lynn.
9:59 am est 

Re: Town Manager Selection Committee

Re: "How can our discontent, spinning out of control, be settled,
friends and neighbors? Usually a leader steps forward, but there seems to be no
one who has the trust of the people. And so, we drift."



I agree with this assessment although you are being much kinder than I have a
mind to. The simple, obvious impediment to any progress this town might ever
make is sheer paranoid gossip, much of it perpetrated right here on this blog.
At this point what good citizen would apply or volunteer for any type of public
position? Antone who serves the town is accused of being a "puppet," part of a
"cabal," dishonest, having ulterior motives, etc. Nobody wants their name
dragged through the mud on social media. Anything written about a person online
these days essentially becomes part of their "permanent record," always there
and accessible by future employers, etc.

Nobody with half a brain would want to lead this town full of mean, vicious
nutcases. Yeah, I think we will continue to drift for a LONG time after this
unfortunate year. But that's what happens when you let the crazies run the
asylum, and that, my friends, is exactly what we've done.
9:54 am est 

Re: Town Manager Selection Committee

"jim Palacino, not Tom.  And since he's threatened numerous times to
sue the town, it wasn't a big surprise that he wasn't picked."


Give me a break- look at Catherine Russo- she has threatened to sue the HDC. She
sits on Fincom. Your rationale has no substance. He was "overlooked". Ironically
this is the gentlemen who eventually stood up and said enough is enough although
it fell on Sharon's dead ears until he made a formal complaint.
9:47 am est 

Re: Catherine Russo's Comment:

"I would bet money that most of the behind the scenes planning is being done by
educated white men of means."



WOW!! She posted that?? What a              . I have lost all consideration of
even reading another Catherine Russo comment and will vote for anyone, even the
neighborhood dog, before I even THINK of voting for her. What      .

9:46 am est 

Building Commissioner / Town Planner

It's been said Russ Braun would ask contractors about jobs for family
members and Sharon dismissed this.

Well posted on FB:I think the new town planner is starting to get the picture. 
Let's make sure she gets all your feedback.  She wants to hear it.

This confuses me because on this very site it was brought up how she and Russ
are friends and that is how she got the job.

9:42 am est 

Re: Town Manager Selection Committee

"Jim Palacino, not Tom.  And since he's threatened numerous times to
sue the town, it wasn't a big surprise that he wasn't picked."


First of all many have threatened to sue the town- Tom Donegan threatened but
didnt and is still Bos. Clarence Walker has is still on Finance committee. Dan
Hoort threatened and is still a town employee. You make no sense. I say more he
was overlooked. He is a very intellingent benevolent giving man. If ANYONE could
have given insight into this committee it is he. The texting incident took place
in April when all this began. He has been involved and seen this through. He was
a victim. So vitimize him again?. I say it way a big mistake. I still do not get
your "it wasn't  a big surprise". I believe you miss a very big point here. It
would have sent an important message out there if he was picked. Your statement
is incensitve and i believe for one short sided.
9:38 am est 

Soup Kitchen: Sweet!

Politics indeed exist here, if for no other reason than many regulars are
taxpaying registered voters. Many a signature on the recent petition to recall
Austin Knight was collected at the SK. Meanwhile, two of the most prominent
survivors of the recent clusterbleep -- selectmen Tom Donegan and Mike Canizales
-- actually show up now and then to sound us out.

Those among you who moan about how hard you worked for your expensive second
homes, even though you can't vote from Boston and squelch that brat Catherine
Russo (who also shows up to hear us) might consider the unfailing local dynamic
of democracy.

But yes, I must agree with the original poster ... despite us malcontents, the
Methodist church and people who operate the SK are not connected to us
politically, so far as I know. Ditto most who eat here. Then again, as I said,
we have our visitors.
11:39 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Slection Committee

Jim Palacino, not Tom.  And since he's threatened numerous times to
sue the town, it wasn't a big surprise that he wasn't picked.

Dave Cleveland seemed like a good guy.

I don't get why people are complaining.  5 people who filled out applications
didn't show.  A couple of them easily could have been picked.

Just a hunch, but I'm guessing that none of you who are whining now applied.

Why not?  Let me guess, the voices in your heads told you you wouldn't be
picked, right?  Kind of pathetic.
11:05 pm est 

Thursday, January 30, 2014

Re: Town Manager Selection Committee

"I would like to know who was present and did not make the selection
process. Anybody know? as if have yet to get my answer on this blog."


David Clevland and Tom Pallacino were present at the meeting but were not
selected.
9:53 pm est 

Soup Kitchen - Real People

If the town leaders want to connect with the REAL people of
Provincetown, they should come to the Soup Kitchen on any given day.  It is the
kindest most compassionate place, where politics doesn't exist and human
compassion does in large doses.  God bless the supporters and the workers of
this wonderful place.
9:52 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

Paranoid.  Is that the correct term to describe these ranters who
don't think that anyone who knows anyone should be allowed to serve the town? 
There is no such thing as being in town and actually knowing other folks without
entering into a conspiracy. A knows b who knows c who once was in the store at
the same time as d and was seen driving on Conwell at the same time as E. 
Therefore, a,b,c,d,and e are obviously in some sort of cabalistic conspiracy to
take over all the businesses on Conwell and try to put new affordable housing on
every lot there after they convince all the attendees at Town meeting that they
are really not part of the puppeteer cabal.

You obviously have never met Mr. Vaughn.  No one ever gave him a thing.  He
never has stolen anything from anyone.  He has worked for everything he has.  If
you had half of the good that this man has in his heart you would be ashamed of
yourself for the unadulterated BS that you spout.  You are not fit to comment on
his concern about PT or his ability to do a fair and thoughtful job.  If you can
dispute this with facts, then do so, but otherwise shut up.  You are a
disgusting character assassin
9:46 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

"The TM search committee is indeed problematic."


All right. Each member of the search committee has been dragged through the mud,
one post after another. While I agree with some of the assessments, it leaves
one wondering who, exactly, would be a GOOD choice?

Provincetown has always been a place where you hear one thing about a person,
only to have it disputed completely by someone else.  In other words,
everybody's got baggage, and everyone has an opinion about it.

And I happen to think Catherine Russo has some good points. To be sure there's a
contrary opinion to mine.

How can our discontent, spinning out of control, be settled, friends and
neighbors? Usually a leader steps forward, but there seems to be no one who has
the trust of the people. And so, we drift.





9:27 pm est 

PTV - Monday BOS Meeting Availability

When will the Monday BOS meeting be available on demand on ptowntv? I
would like to know who was present and did not make the selection process.
Anybody know? as if have yet to get my answer on this blog.
9:24 pm est 

Re: The More Things Change the..........

"Already there is behind the scene planning for what should happen
next. Over 700 people are members of this blog yet just a dozen participate.
Why???? I would bet money that most of the behind the scenes planning is being
done by educated white men of means."


What complete nonsense.  Who is doing the planning?  If you know tell us.  You
don't know if there is planning and if there was planning who was doing it.  You
THINK there might be planning and your obvious bias has you convinced that it
has to be "educated white men"  (or the so called "gentry").  You are to be
pitied not scorned.  To live a life of such quiet desperation must be miserable.
4:46 pm est 

Enough Already!

"I already know who the tentative Baby Puppets are."


Can you stop with the puppet obsession already? I thought it would end with
Sharon (puppet mistress) leaving town but apparently it's an ongoing theme.
4:43 pm est 

Catherine Russo Posted in Provincetown Lighthouse

The Case for a 20% Residential Tax Exemption in Wellfleet - John Morrissey

One of the most difficult problems that the town of Wellfleet faces is the high cost of real estate, especially when we consider the available income opportunities on the Outer Cape. Second home owners and retirees have contributed to the demand for, and the increased price of, residential homes. Real estate taxes are on the rise also. The average single family tax bill for FY2012 was $3,474, an increase of 60% over ten years.
The high cost of a mortgages, taxes and insurance have priced average working people, many who work several seasonal jobs, out of the market for a home. These costs also make it a challenge for older citizens on a fixed income to remain in their homes.
The negative effect on Wellfleet and the entire Outer Cape is substantial. Many town employees, including public safety officials, can’t afford to live in town. It is very difficult to recruit employees for the ‘on call’ fire department. The number of children who live in the School District and attend the Nauset Schools is down 30% over ten years. Provincetown High School is closing. Young adults in families who go back generations are often forced to live elsewhere because of the high cost of housing. The number of people who actually live in town 12 months a year is very small. This makes it increasingly difficult to operate a year round business, reducing year round employment and the downward spiral continues.
We need to make it easier for year round residents to live and work in Wellfleet.
Many communities in Massachusetts and many states in our country, have policies that ease the tax burden on homeowners. Taxing commercial real estate at a higher rate than residential real estate is one such policy; 106 towns in Massachusetts do this. But only 4% of the real estate in Wellfleet is designated commercial, so increasing the tax burden on commercial property would do almost nothing to benefit the homeowner. This option doesn’t make sense in Wellfleet.
Another option Wellfleet has is a 20% residential exemption for homeowners who are domiciled in town. Based upon FY2012, this would provide a tax exemption of $97,783 on the assessed value of a home owned by someone who is domiciled in that home. The exemption would make the tax burden progressive; lower value homes, on a percentage basis, will pay less than higher value homes. Homes owned by nonresidents, or 2nd homes owned by residents, will not receive the exemption. The commercial tax rate would be unaffected.
Twelve towns in Massachusetts, including Boston, Cambridge, Brookline and Barnstable on Cape Cod, have a residential exemption policy. Florida and other states have similar policies.
Please see the attached chart for the practical effect on homeowner’s taxes.
John Morrissey
4:42 pm est 

Catherine Russo vs Second Homeowners

Isn't Catherin Russo a second home owner in MEXICO?  Maybe the taxes
there are cheaper.......
4:32 pm est 

Here We go Again

Now secret selective choices for key committees. this is exactly what we are
opposing and want to change. Now certain people are secretly appointed and we
should feel good about this?

I surely don't.

There should an open process and not three people picking and choosing.

May as well bring Ann McGuire back into the picture. the string pullers are
back. they just look different but alas--are more of the same.

If the process is corrupted, then all the decisions and choice of candidates
follow.
4:30 pm est 

Re: Catherine Russo's Comment:

"I would bet money that most of the behind the scenes planning is being done
by educated white men of means."


Remind me to tell Ms McGuire of her gender change. Ms Russo has zero credibility
and is an embarrassment to all who support the recent political upheaval. Chill
it out sister, you're hurting our cause.
4:26 pm est 

Re: The More Things Change the..........

At first I thought it was ridiculous to think that no one checked the
backgrounds of Sharon Lynn or Jeff Jaran. But it actually makes sense. Think of
the library director--it's obvious that Sharon didn't check her background.  It
was more important to Sharon that she hire people she knew or could control than
it was that she hire good people.
4:24 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

The TM search committee is indeed problematic.  The concerns posted
about the appointment of Ann Maguire are spot-on.  She is a professional
unscrupulous politician. She knows exactly how manipulate, isolate, and
intimidate people.  She will do this. This is what she does. We should be
vigilant about her and her alliances.

I strongly suspect that Judy Cicero is among Maguire's alliances. She made no
secret of her support for Sharon Lynn.

Also, watch out for Louise Vendon--she has deep cabal connections. She's on the
library board with Sharon's friends and her wife is Sally Dean, the director of
Outer Cape Health.  Big money, big trouble.

Rob Tosner. A blindly loyal supported of Jaran and Lynn. But we knew that.

Lynne Martin. She is a Sharon Lynne hire. MIS department.

Judy Cicero, Robert Vettrick, and Ann Maguire also are all on the Democratic
Committee board, which is chaired by Austin Knight.

Also a couple of loose cannons. I won't name names here because it is my opinion
only. But we have a couple of people here who have trouble with ... how shall I
put it? ... impulse control.

And why on earth did Eric select Richard Olsen? He has a long history of
political involvement with the town, but, c'mon.  There is a distinct and
obvious problem here, and everyone knows what it is.  He would be unable to
fulfill the duties of any role. In addition, any female who has dealt with him
has experienced the rancor he shows toward women -- in public, on the street, in
restaurants, in taxicabs, in BARS. His treatment of women is inexcusable.

Poor Donald Vaughan (or should I say poor, rich Donald Vaughan).  He's been
writing to the Banner for years about second-homeowner rights. (Except in his
case it would be five-of-six homeowner rights. He buys up vacation rental condos
like lollipops.) He is an attorney from Boston, so I would not be at all
surprised if he was allied with Ann Maguire.  But I suspect he has no idea what
he's getting into.  Good luck, rich guy.
4:21 pm est 

Thanks For the Reminder

"But I look at the black and white picture on this site that we all
must scroll down through, in order to get to the comments section, and I'm
reminded of what we have been, and can be again.  It's not going to be easy, but
if we all or even most of us commit, we can make it happen."



I just glanced at that 1990s photo that you mentioned in your post. You're so
right.  Thanks for the reminder about the possibility of what this community can
be again!
2:55 pm est 

Posted in the Provincetown Lighthouse - January 30, 2014

Catherine Russo:

We must change the power dynamics, or our mini-revolution will have been for naught.
Too many of us have fought for fairness and justice only to see our efforts taken over by another power clan. We did not dump the cabal to set up another one.
 
Already there is behind the scene planning for what should happen next. Over 700 people are members of this blog yet just a dozen participate. Why???? I would bet money that most of the behind the scenes planning is being done by educated white men of means.

This is not to put them down or their intentions. It is just to say, if this is how it goes down, then nothing has changed.

We cannot get the renters to town meeting to vote for themselves. Why???
We need to empower people not prove once again that they are at the mercy of the fair-mindedness of the gentry. It is a much greater task but one, I believe, has much greater payoffs.
12:26 pm est 

Vincent Currier - Fairness

"I agree with the President when he said that we should not resent success, if someone works hard and make lots of money, they should be congratulated and encouraged. However, the tax system has to be reformed so that success pays it's fair share, and then the system becomes fair to all. I should not pay a higher percentage than say....Mitt Romney, that is the unfairness. Or Warren Buffet, one of the wealthiest of Americans has stated his secretary pays a higher percentage than he does. Inequitable! There does not have to be an us against them fight, just make the system fair. Most successful people are willing to pay their fair share....really!"
12:18 pm est 

Re: The More Things Change the..........

"No one checked into Austin's credentials...or Sharon's or even
Jaran's for that matter. One person gives a stamp of approval and that's
enough."



Is this really TRUE?  NO ONE?  Not the search consultant?  Not the BOS?  How do
you know this to be true?  Were they interviewed?  Did anyone aske any questions
or was this all done by a single person with nefarious intent?  Or, is this just
more blather to continue a conspiracy theory of undocumented occurrence.
12:14 pm est 

Austin Knight or Whoever He Is

Why is his resignation effective in May.  Shouldn't it be immediately?

If someone has been ordered to resign, it should be ASAP. It gives him the
opportunity to do more damage and cause the town more embarrassment.
11:49 am est 

God Help Us!

There are none so blind than those that will not see.
11:47 am est 

Re: Gardner, Murray & Petas - What's up?

You Would Think that some of those Hurt by Jeff Jaran's Actions Would
be on the Police community Selection Group

There are key people who suffered from the misuse of police power against them
and against the town. why weren't any of them selected? Why not Raphael Richter
who suffered quite a bit from misusing the police force against him. and also
eric Roberts who suffered from attacks from Jeff Jaran and then Paul K. who was
arrested because he went against the size and budget of Jeff Jaran's proposed
police station. they who were ill treated by the police should be part of the
team.
11:43 am est 

Re: Catherine Russo - Residential Exemptions

"To Ms Russo, Please tell us why a full time resident with a home
valued at$900,000 should get a tax break of $121 but a part time resident
gets anincrease of about $500.  Please explain your logic in  thinking that this is
reasonable in any way at all.  What if the  full time person inherited a ton of
money and just clips coupons for a living while the part timer has lost a job
and is close to losing the home?  Other than the fact that you want those who
you perceive as being better off then you to pay more so that you can pay less,
please tell us why it is fair or will make the town (not you as an individual)
any better?  Will it create more jobs?  Will it make people healthier?  Despite
what a few people seem to think, part timers already pay 70% of the taxes in
town and use much less of the resources.  They pay twice as much for a parking
permit and use town parking less because they are here less.  Is it simply
because you have a vote and they don't.  In other words you can be a legal bully?"



Couldnt agree more. Ms. Russo is going down a path that I for one will stand up
against. I own a property here that is assessed above a million. There are many
who own homes less than a million but are much more well off than I . I for one
am sick of assuming and or the assumption if one owns a piece of this paradise
we are automatically "wealthy" . All her proposals well suit her individual
situation as well of those in her peer group that is it. IF the BOS fall for
this way of thinking- I believe they will be setting themselves up . They need
to think this through long and hard.
11:40 am est 

Re: Catherine Russo - Residential Exemptions

From several posts I get the idea that some would redefine "private
citizen"  when it comes to serving on a board or committee.  The new definition
seems to be that "private citizens" means someone with whom I agree.

To Ms Russo, Please tell us why a full time resident with a home valued at
$900,000 should get a tax break of $121 but a part time resident gets an
increase of about $500.  Please explain your logic in  thinking that this is
reasonable in any way at all.  What if the  full time person inherited a ton of
money and just clips coupons for a living while the part timer has lost a job
and is close to losing the home?  Other than the fact that you want those who
you perceive as being better off then you to pay more so that you can pay less,
please tell us why it is fair or will make the town (not you as an individual)
any better?  Will it create more jobs?  Will it make people healthier?  Despite
what a few people seem to think, part timers already pay 70% of the taxes in
town and use much less of the resources.  They pay twice as much for a parking
permit and use town parking less because they are here less.  Is it simply
because you have a vote and they don't.  In other words yo!
u can be a legal bully?
9:15 am est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

Jennifer Cabral
Scott Caldwell
Judy Cicero
Mark Hatch
Richard Olsen
Peter Petas
Ann McGuire
Dennis Minsky
Louise A Venden
Robert Vetrick
Rob Tosner
Lynne Martin
Donald Vaughn

"Of the 13 members that comprise the Search Committee, at least 3 are members of
the Town Democratic Committee - Judy Cicero, Ann Maguire and Richard Vetrick
Guess who's the Chair of our Town Democratic Committee?  Austin Knight!
Of these 3, only one should suffice."




I see the search committee members that were chosen. Of those possible to be
chosen on Monday evening who WAS NOT chosen?? Does anyone know?
9:12 am est 

Re: The More Things Change the..........

Seems like we get ourselves out of one mess, and then we get into another....all
of our own making. Someone needs to step up and speak for all of us.  We are
just too darn trusting.

Are we THAT gullible??

No one checked into Austin's credentials...or Sharon's or even Jaran's for that
matter. One person gives a stamp of approval and that's enough.  What happened
to background checks? If I want a job at Stop & Shop...I have to give approval
for a background check....why isn't that the norm for a BIG job here?

I'm amazed at the stupidity and transparency of how corrupt this town really is. 
We are a laughing stock.
9:09 am est 

Rick Murray - Advisory Group Selection Commirttee

I was interviewed back in the summer/fall by Mr. Goodrich, we had a long 1 hour
conversation regarding my opinions on thenTM , the Chief and the "mood of the
town" etc. I was frank and honest and gave him my personal opinions. He thanked
me for my input. I never discussed my interview with anyone but I believe it was
posted months ago I was one of the many that gave input on Facebook etc. I was
approached to participate again on the advisory group to actually select the
newly formed "group" that was voted on at our fall TMeeting. I was asked by the
consultant team and again I volunteered my time , I had no idea how many were to
be "chosen" or asked. I am willing to contribute to moving the town "forward"
and to assist in the RESET button that I have been advocating publicly now since
last the last election. I would rather contribute than sit back and criticize,
we all need to be part of the solution.

Regarding the makeup of the Town Manager search I agree with some posts
regarding the make up it could have been more broad based in its make up but I
believe Mark Hatch and Jennifer Cabral are citizens and have no board
affiliation or any affiliation to the democratic committee etc so they are a
"new" addition to the process and I think they will be terrific!!

Rick,Murray
9:06 am est 

What's The Use?

We get one corrupt person out....and we're fixing to put another one in...the
same people that support the one candidate are in the background trying to do
the same thing.

Why don't we learn?  Why do we keep making the same mistakes?

We need a separate entity to come in and guide us...We are unable to make our
own decisions.

I'm at a loss.  I'm seeing a town going down the tubes.  We are SO proud...we
are a destruction to ourselves.
9:01 am est 

Austin Knight - Cape Cod Commission

Regarding the Austin Knight and the Cape Commission posting, it would
be nice if David McChesney would own up to this petty little diatribe, but of
course there is nothing new here. He is every bit of an anonymous entity on the
BOS as well!!!
8:59 am est 

Re: Gardner, Murray & Petas - What's up?

"The MOPC guys asked people who had done the confidential interviews
to agree to select the Civic Engagement Committee.  I guess those three were the
only ones dumb enough to agree."



I think all of these three individuals will do a wonderful job  on this
committee.  There were some things that needed and still need to be done in this
town regarding governance, accountability, responsiveness, transparency, and
consistency and equity in how policies are enforced.  To tackle these things has
been difficult, because no matter how many times they had been brought forward
to the pertinent town officials, they refused to take corrective action. Their
inaction caused things to fester and escalate, thus engendering friction.  Many
of the citizens felt that some of the town officials were attempting to deceive
or maneuver, so a lack of trust has also been engendered.  But I look at the
black and white picture on this site that we all must scroll down through, in
order to get to the comments section, and I'm reminded of what we have been, and
can be again.  It's not going to be easy, but if we all or even most of us
commit, we can make it happen.


8:56 am est 

Re: The More Things Change the.............................................

I already know who the tentative Baby Puppets are.
8:53 am est 

Catherine Russo - Residential Exemptions

From John Morrissey, Wellfleet selectman:

"I did quite a bit of research on 'residential exemptions' also known as 'homestead exemptions'. The National Council of State Legislators site was very helpful. Forty-eight states have a residential exemption of some sort, many narrowly defined for the blind or disabled veterans or others in need, but 27 states have a broad based residential exemption, including Florida and NY. In Massachusetts it is done at the town level, via Massachusetts General Law. Fourteen towns in Massachusetts have a residential exemption, including Boston, Cambridge, Barnstable, Nantucket and Tisbury. The Massachusetts Law states:

"there shall be an exemption equal to not more than twenty per cent of the average assessed value of all Class One, residential, parcels within such city or town; provided, however, that such an exemption shall be applied only to the principal residence of a taxpayer as used by the taxpayer for income tax purposes."

The practical effect in Wellfleet would be to lower real estate taxes for people who reside in Wellfleet and own a home with an assessed value of $1,000,000 or less. It works on a sliding scale; a $300,000 home would receive a tax cut of $493, a $900,000 home would receive a tax cut of $121. Homes that are not the primary residence would see their taxes increase. A 2nd home with an assessed value of $700,000 would see a tax increase of $434."

Wellfleet selectman John Morrissey was kind enough to share this with me. He tried to get this passed in Wellfleet but the BOS voted it down in a 3-2 vote. I will be talking to him more about his initiative.

Catherine
12:21 am est 

Gardner, Murray & Petas - What's up?

The MOPC guys asked people who had done the confidential interviews to agree to
select the Civic Engagement Committee.  I guess those three were the only ones
dumb enough to agree.
12:14 am est 

Puppet Mistress

"I'm afraid she will be back in business with the Majority not having a clue."


That was then; this is now.  The time for ole pols to try to control in the
background our town is over.
12:12 am est 

Affordable Housing vs Year Round Employment

2nd homeowners is not the way to approach the housing issues in
Provincetown. Funny thing, I've worked my arse off my entire life and have only
rented apartments or bought a home in my price range. I never tried to live
where I couldn't afford to live and look for a hand out. I contribute to the
economy of this town by purchasing goods, eating in local restaurants, going to
the dentist, and using local electricians, plumbers, painters, floor installers
etc. Catherine Russo is out of touch with her proposal. More taxes for the 2nd
home owners while the year rounders get a break, doesn't seem fair at all.
You are alienating the second home owners by proposing this and it won't help
matters it will only make things worse. I'm not rolling in dough, just hard
working and learned how to invest at a young age.

Not having year round employment is the reason for the housing crisis... not
second home owners.

Jack
11:00 pm est 

Wednesday, January 29, 2014

BOS Chair - Elaine Anderson

GREAT, GREAT news that Austin Knight is (essentially) gone. Now is is
time to find a credible candidate to replace Elaine Anderson. Ms Anderson must
go! Her politics are very similar to Austins, and she has no ability to think
rationally. It seems her next original thought will be the first.
10:52 pm est 

The More Things Change the.............................................

Anne McGuire, the puppet mistress exists.  Some may think that now
that Sharon is gone then so is the Cabal...think again.
I can see it now,  come spring she will have a whole new litter of
Baby Puppets. I 'm afraid she will be back in business with the
Majority not having a clue.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!
10:46 pm est 

Search Committee....

How telling  that no private citizens were chosen for town
Mgr search committee. They all have connections to what
You all claim you're trying to solve.
10:31 pm est 

Remaining Vigilant

There were significant character flaws exhibited in Austin Knight,
that should have alerted the electorate about his unsuitability as either a town
official, or representative.

I voted for him; I'm as culpable as the rest who put him and kept him in
office.  I have learned my lesson.
10:30 pm est 

Knight/Cicero

Judy Cicero was all over the place defending AustinPathetic
10:25 pm est 

Why Rush?

----So..the committee for the search of our next Town Manager has been
chosen by a BOS, of which only 2 out of the 5 will still be in office come May
6th.

----Austin won't be a Selectman on May 6th, and it could be possible that David
and Elaine aren't Selectmen as of May 6th either.

----In view of the fact that there's such an change - 3 out f 5!, shouldn't we
wait for the May 6th outcome, so that that BOS calls the shots about who should
be in the Search Committee, etc.?

----Specially when the Acting Town manager's job is in the capable hands of
David Garner.
10:23 pm est 

Same as it Ever Was

I feel the process has been rigged by the cabal already.  Austin has
been their wonderful little pet, doing their bidding all along.
10:16 pm est 

The Town Manager Search Committee

Jennifer Cabral
Scott Caldwell
Judy Cicero
Mark Hatch
Richard Olsen
Peter Petas
Ann McGuire
Dennis Minsky
Louise A Venden
Robert Vetrick
Rob Tosner
Lynne Martin
Donald Vaughn

Of the 13 members that comprise the Search Committee, at least 3 are members of
the Town Democratic Committee - Judy Cicero, Ann Maguire and Richard Vetrick 
Guess who's the Chair of our Town Democratic Committee?  Austin Knight!
Of these 3, only one should suffice.
10:08 pm est 

Elaine Anderson

My dear friends.  If Elaine Anderson wants to keep a little dignity
she should NOT run for re-election. Need I say more. Thanks for what she has
done (??) but now is the time leave gracefully.
10:06 pm est 

Gardner, Murray & Petas - What's up?

How did David Gardner, Rick Murray and Peter Petas come to be chosen
as the selectors of the approved MOPC Committee Applicants?

What was the process? I dont recall any discussion about this.
 
Can anyone explain this?  
9:56 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

Can someone please post the search committee applicants who were not
chosen but who attented the meeting monday night? Thanks
6:42 pm est 

Austin Knight - Resignation

Bye Austin, a correct action given the situation.
6:40 pm est 

Vincent Currier - The Next Step - As Posted in the Provincetown Voice

Doug Johnstone (djohnstone@provincetown-ma.gov)Add to contacts 3:22 PM

To: 'Vince Currier'

Hi Vince – Austin Knight’s resignation, received this morning, in effect renders a recall effort moot since there is no longer a candidate to recall within the required time frame for a Special Town Election prior to our Annual Town Election to be held on May 6, 2014. The remainder of Austin’s term on the Board of Selectmen has been placed on the May 6, 2014 Annual Town Meeting ballot and nomination papers are available to anyone who may be considering a run for the remainder of the term (2 years). I include here a link to the press release on available positions on the ballot for your reference http://www.provincetown-ma.gov/DocumentCenter/View/3649

Austin’s resignation, once received, cannot be rescinded.

Thank you.
Doug Johnstone
Town Clerk

Vince Currier 12:48 PM
To: djohnstone@provincetown-ma.gov
Picture of Vince Currier
Good Afternoon, Doug,

Based on our telephone conversation and my concerns and questions that have been asked me....could you give an official explanation as to the ramifications of Austin Knight resigning his seat and how it effects the recall in progress?

Thank you as always for your service to the citizens of Provincetown, and for being so efficient and helpful and impartial in all of our dealings.

Vincent Currier
72 Franklin Street
Provincetown, Ma., 02657
6:38 pm est 

Who Didn't Make the Short List

Does anyone know who was not picked? for search committe that had
applies?
6:33 pm est 

Re: Business As Usual

You can add Judy Cicero and Robert Vetrick, both of whom Austin Knight nominated
to the Town Manager Search Committee, along with town employee Lynn Martin and
Rob Tosner, and Louise Venden and Ann Maguire and 1-2 swing votes on the search
committee, with a new majority controlled Board of Selectmen, and I agree with
the previous writer that we are back to SQUARE ONE!



Exactly-Pretty Scary Folks!
6:31 pm est 

Town Manager Selection Process

Next town manager. Please be reminded that the committee is there to
ultimately recommend 3 to 5 candidates the the BOS. The BOS will make the final
decision, not the committee.
6:29 pm est 

Austin Knight's Letter of Resignation 6:20 pm est 

Austin Knight Resignation + Cabal = Business as Usual

"And the effort to recall one of the selectmen has garnered more
public support and attention than anything in recent Provincetown history...'



You bet. And that support was in the form of hundreds of people signing
petitions for his removal. I'm a long term townie, and I did not see any
swelling of support for Austin. Most people are, in fact, embarrassed for
him...not the same as thinking he was a good leader.

In the meantime, the cabal rises again like zombies. It seems they will never
die or fade away. Get rid of one, another appears.
5:48 pm est 

Austin Knight - Resignation

"And I find that this is news. To see Austin finally leave his
position which he garnered illegally is wonderful thanks for the blog letting us
know."



I dare say that many, maybe most, folks are glad to see this resolved with his
resignation. Many, and maybe most, may feel that there is no need for the
continuance of the attacks.  He is essentially gone in disgrace.  Amen.

But, make sure that you really understand that he did not garner his seat
illegally.  He was legally elected whether you like it or not.  There seems to
have been some illegal campaign activity, but that does not make the election
illegal.  The margin of victory(I never voted for him and never would) was large
enough that a few votes that may have been swayed by the sign caper could not
have made a difference.  There was no voter fraud.  There was no ballot
stuffing.   To keep up the drumbeat of an illegal election does nothing to bring
about a healing and better PT. Let's move on and forget all the talk about
conspiracies to rig elections and selection of the TM.  Work to elect members of
the BOS that will work hard, smart and honestly for the  town.  Let's make it
better for all.
5:45 pm est 

Austin Knight - Cape Cod Commission

Can we rid ourselves fully of Austin Knight? Is he still representing
PT and the Outer Cape on the Cape Cod Commission? Pleez resign Austin from the
CCC.

Lowe's in Dennis- Austin Knight on the Cape Cod Commission votes yes for Lowe's,
and Ron Beaty's anti Commission Pro Lowes comments here to banish the
CCC..so..lets make some points.-Ron Beatty is for Lowe's.

-Austin voted for Lowe's.

-Yes I concur that area of 134 in Dennis is a blight, its not Commercial Street,
its not Wellfleet Main Street and its zoned for Lowe's per the Town of Dennis
and only the CCC prevented Lowe's arrival due to the regional impact.

But let's dig deeper shall we?

Home Depot in Hyannis promised full time employment with benefits-they delivered
part time employment without benefits. They lied. Lowe's own estimates are for
30K/year jobs, with benefits. But we know the track record here off Cape-part
timers do not get benefits.

Lowe's own traffic studies has streams of 18 wheelers arriving 24x7, and
estimates in the 5 figures of thousands of cars per day, It would be a traffic
nightmare.

While this may not impact Ptown, it would drive out of business many small
stores in the surrounding towns, even on the Outer Cape. Profits then taken out
of the local region.

And lastly for what? As someone whom renovates my own home to try and make it
feasible to live here-let me tell you about Lowes and Home Depot. Those brand
name windows, tools? They are low cost versions. They do not last. Without fail
I have regretted installing brand name materials from HD and Lowe's.

Austin it shames me to think you voted Yes here-for minimum wage no benefit
jobs, 18 wheelers and traffic at exit 9, for low quality products, for
destroying local small business in  far reaching circumference well beyond
Dennis.


Austin you do not represent your constituents. Please resign. Or heck-lets let
Lowe's come to Truro or Provincetown! How about that Austin?

While y'all are at it Austin and Ron-lets repeal the National Seashore and pave
paradise, and make it the NJ Shore? IS that your ultimate fantasy?

Please resign Austin from the CCC! Please!
2:36 pm est 

Re: Business As Usual

You can add Judy Cicero and Robert Vetrick, both of whom Austin Knight nominated
to the Town Manager Search Committee, along with town employee Lynn Martin and
Rob Tosner, and Louise Venden and Ann Maguire and 1-2 swing votes on the search
committee, with a new majority controlled Board of Selectmen, and I agree with
the previous writer that we are back to SQUARE ONE!
2:33 pm est 

Next Town Manager

Who knows who is in the "cabal"?  maybe I don't pay enough attention
but I must know who it is that is screwing up my town.

On a separate note, I could use some legitimate reason for the speculation that
someone would say that they hate Elaine and that she is equally hated all over
town, but also say that she will probably be reelected along with others who the
poster finds to be odious.  I fail to see the logic.

Will the committee choose the next TM or will the consultants work with them to
put some candidates in front of the BOS who will do the hiring?  Does someone
have evidence that the "cabal" has got the fix in to the consultant to do
exactly what Ann says?  What is the payoff here? Money? jobs?  What?
Will Jaran and Sharon be back if all this happens? It certainly seems like the
"cabal" has the power0 and the intent.
2:31 pm est 

Posted in the Blow Hold

Jennifer Cabral The Search Committee for the New Town Manager is:

MYSELF (rah! rah!! trumpets!! flags waving!!)
Scott Caldwell
Judy Cicero
Mark Hatch
Richard Olsen
Peter Petas
Ann McGuire
Dennis Minsky
Louise A Venden
Robert Vetrick
were the chosen applicants last night to join the three citizens previously selected:

Rob Tosner, representing the Chamber/VSB,
Lynne Martin representing town employees and
Donald Vaughn representing the non-resident homeowners.
12:43 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Resignation

GOOD BYE, AUSTIN!!!!!!!!

THE WORD IS THAT AUSTIN WILL BE RESIGNING IN MAY! EVIDENTLY, HE WANTS TO SPEND
MORE TIME SHOPPING AT LOWES AND HOPING TO GET LUCKY AT FUNERALS! HE MUST HAVE
FINALLY SEEN THE WRITING ON THE WALL AND IT SPELLED "RECALL" ;-)
12:41 pm est 

Sorry But Idiots Abound

Who in their right mind would thank Austin for putting his family first and
thank him for all he has done. lack of any insight to come to this ridiculous
conclusion.  Austin used illegal means to get elected and he is an affront to
all those who value the vote. And now he is using his family--a family we never
heard of before--to step down.

No thanks from me for his illegal actions and his misuse of the electoral
system.
12:39 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Resigns

Thank you for posting this news

And I find that this is news. To see Austin finally leave his position which he
garnered illegally is wonderful thanks for the blog letting us know. I
appreciate all you are doing to inform us.
12:37 pm est 

So Glad Knight Has Resigned

He should have done this long before this morning. but at least it is done. We
still unfortunately have him in place until then--or maybe we can get  him to
leave NOW!

Knight should have NOTHING to do with the Search Committee for the new town
manager. Say goodbye Austin! Say Goodnight Knight!
12:35 pm est 

Success of the Recall
 
congratulations to all. A great and successful RECALL. the numbers are there and
Knight knew it. gone, gone, gone.

Thanks to all for all the signatures. Now let's bring them all in and have them
all certified.

12:34 pm est 

Town Manager Search Committee - Business as Usual
Elaine's Anderson's nomination of Ann Maguire and Louise Venden to the
Town Manager Search Committee now all makes sense.

With Austin Knight's resignation, probably at the urging of the cabal, the cabal
will put forth two candidates that they believe can win the election, thus
joining Elaine Anderson who will run for re-elction and probably win, thus
forming a majority on the board for voting purposes.

Ann Maguire will attempt to become chair of the search committee and control the
process and thus ensure her pick for town manager with a majority of the board
after the May election.

If you think we're not back to back to business as usual, you better think about
it again.
12:32 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Schools vs Second Homeowners

Ok so AK is gone.  Now what?  will the election be as nasty and
acrimonious as the recall effort?  Let's hope not.  Maybe the debate can be
about credentials and not personalities.

I love this post "Re:  Personally I'd rather have more students and less second
home owners."

And probably would love to return to horses and sleighs.  It would be nice if
there were enough jobs to have a greater diversity in town.  I called Google and
asked them to open up a new large scale facility here, but they declined.  I
called the president and governor to see if they could buy all the second homes
and sell them to all the people who would guarantee to live year round.  They
said OK, but only if Google opens that facility so that the people who would
replace the second home owners would have the jobs to buy the homes and pay the
taxes.  When I told them that Google backed out, they said "deal with the
reality of what it is".  Then they came up with another solution to have all the
people who hate the second home owners buy up the homes and convert them to
vacant land. Tear them all down. The president then said that he would see if
the Seashore could arrange to annex all the land that was once occupied by the
second homes.  He also expressed concern about asking people all over the country
pay to solve our problems. 

When I agreed that this could be a problem , he suggested that all the full time
residents get together and buy all the second homes for themselves to have as
second homes.
That might solve the problems because the second home owners would also be the
primary home owners and they might be reasonable with themselves.
12:28 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall Count

So vince…in total how many signatures were collected in total?
12:16 pm est 

Re: Rob Tosner

"You MYPACC people won't be happy until everyone who disagrees with you
is gone. Police chief has been fired"




That's the point- Rob Tosner believed all was well with the police dept. How
WRONG he was!! So was have somone that was so worried about his own self
interest to go as far as to publicly state he believed we were a lynch mob and
all malcontents.  Yet how ironic that the Police Union themselves agreed with us
about Jeff Jaran. Oh and by the way- there is a whole lot more that will be
coming out. Rob Tosner is worried about ONE thing. Rob Tosner.
12:14 pm est 

Library

I have been a patron of the library for many years.  Except for the lack of
parking, I have found it very well stocked and have never had a problem problem
withe the staff.
12:11 pm est 

Rob Tosner is the Wrong Person for the Search Committee

His relationship with Jeff Jaran and his outbursts at the town meeting and his
attacking the citizens who were for firing Jeff Jaran should be enough to has
disqualified him from sitting on this committee.

Why Him? why would anyone appoint this problematic man to the search committee?
It surely begs the question.
12:09 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Resignation

So now that Austin is going to resign, who are you          going
after next?
12:01 pm est 

Cape Cod On Line January 29, 2014


PROVINCETOWN - Selectman Austin Knight submitted a letter of resignation effective May 5 to the town clerk's office this morning.

The brief, handwritten letter states he is resigning for personal reasons and that the resignation will be in effect at 5 p.m. May 5, the day before the May 6 election.

(Read Selectman Austin Knight's letter of resignation here)

Jaran was fired last month for violating state and town laws after he allegedly urged his staff to campaign and vote for Knight in the town election last year.

Critics have said that Knight should not have been part of negotiations and decisions made about Jaran since he was involved in the case.


Knight, however, has maintained he didn't know Jaran was urging police officers to vote for him.

There is an effort to recall Knight, but that process is now moot, said Town Clerk Doug Johnstone.

By resigning on May 5, there will be a vacancy listed on the ballot. Any candidates for his position will be filling the two years Knight has left to serve, Johnstone

10:41 am est 

Re: Provincetown Schools vs Second Homeowners

"If we had more kids, the cost per student would be less."

Figures don't lie....

If we had more kids the total cost would go up, as would our taxes.  What really
counts is total cost, not cost per student.

School budget is $3.4 million in FY14, about 15% of the total town budget, and
it did not go down when the high school closed.

And 2nd homeowners, who pay an estimated 70% of all our taxes, have no children
in the school system.
9:14 am est 

Re: Second Home Owners:

"Thanks for telling it like it is, "get real." Having basic government
services on call 24/7 while waiting to flip one's condo is nice, but someone
must pay for them. When second homeowners face up to that, taxwise, I'll be more
willing toconsider their moaning about taxation without representation."


It is obvious that common sense and reason have no place in this debate.  The
fact is, and this is from info from the assessor, 2HO pays 70% of the taxes in
PT.  Talking about flipping condos make no sense at all.  Of course some do, but
far from most or all.

"You claim you don't use Provincetown town services....."

Please take a ride around town after Memorial Day,the litter
And garbage at least triples. This is what the 30 percent live With,long after
you collected your $2k in rent."


Here again is an example of someone making an argument in the debate without a
shred of common sense.  The vast number of visitors on any given weekend do not
have 2nd homes and are not renting second homes.  They are in guest houses and
hotels and are day trippers.  Some even rent from year round residents who get
out in order to rent for huge amounts.  Also, all those folks who come for the
weekends buy stuff in the shops, and eat and drink in the bars, clubs and
restaurants. You say "triples" .  Is this more boloney or actual info from the
DPW.  Is it greater than Carnival?  Is it greater than 4th of July.

By the way, I don't rent my place ever and most of my friends don't either. So
please debate this issue with facts not fantasy and be honest.  Don't make
things up and exaggerate.  It does nothing to help illuminate the issue.
9:11 am est 

School Staff

If we need so much money per student, why don't we cut staff at the school.  Do
we REALLY need a Supt, Principal, Asst. Principal, Asst. Teachers??  For a
handful of students, it seems excessive that all of these people are necessary.

I remember the Sharon Lynn lie in 2009 that if teachers voted against an
increase, jobs would be saved. They weren't! In 2010, I remember seeing quite a
few teachers and staff being given their walking papers. So many blatant lies!
Fooled again.
9:07 am est 

Provincetown Schools vs Second Homeowners

Re:  Personally I'd rather have more students and less second home
owners.


Mabye you could give the parents of those kids a recomendation for a lower cape
job in the er...ah...oops, I almost forgot their are no jobs.  This is a
seasonal resort community.

If there aren't enough good jobs to provide the public housing proponents with
enough income to live here without subsidy;  how the hell are families with
children going to afford to live here?

Maybe we can get the second home owners to pay more taxes then use those taxes
to invite families with children to move into subsidzed housing as long as they
send their kids to our schools.  Hey, wait a minute.  I want my subsidized house
first and I better get it before you start inviting outsiders here!  If I don't
get my way I start a recall...or something.

Reality check...If someone with children is well-off enough that they can move
here without the need to work, you can bet your sweet bippy they would be
sending their children to a better private school than anything we have to offer
here.
9:06 am est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

"So the very person that defended the chief to the very end and said everything
was fine with the police dept. Is now on the search committee. What a slap in
the face. Oh and love that Ann Mcguire is back in the scene - what a bunch of
bs."


You MYPACC people won't be happy until everyone who disagrees with you is gone.
Police chief has been fired, TM was harassed to the point that she quit, and the
effort to recall one of the selectmen has garnered more public support and
attention than anything in recent Provincetown history, except perhaps the
infamous "green line." Now you want to somehow ensure that certain private
citizens are not allowed to participate in town government because you don't
like their politics and opinions?

Get over yourselves! This town is still a democracy, despite your attempts to
change that. Everyone has a right to be here, vote and participate in the
politics of the town, EVERYONE. Not just he folks you deem fit to do so.
9:03 am est 

Joint FinCom/BOS/School Committee Meeting

Just learned from the joint fincom/BOS/school committee meeting that
because we have so many second homes, we have less families who send kids to the
schools. In turn this ends up costing us more per student than any other town in
the state, $33,000 per student.  If we had more kids, the cost per student would
be less. Personally I'd rather have more students and less second home owners.
You can watch this meeting on PTV.  It is very informative.
12:07 am est 

Town Manager Search Committee

Reasoned and rational two critical factors to be considered for candidates
wishing to serve on the town manager search commitee.

Questions one should ask of these candidates:

Are they rational?

Are they reasoned and non-confrontational?

Do they have a personal agenda?

Are they seasoned for serving (availability)

After asking these questions, ask yourself if Rob Tosner fits the bill.

12:01 am est 

Condos Kill Communities....

Look ,open your eyes.. Empty steets,
Renters, and constant turnover of ownership.
Example- on the corner of prince and cudworth street. Cute house
Sold in the 400k, the house now looks like a trailor and you can
Pick up a nice condo for $ 800k. Do you think the developer has any
Care for Ptown?
11:57 pm est 

Re: Second Homeowners

"This is practically a gated community for the rich without them
having to pay any fees for not being here and protecting their property and
those of their neighbors."



Well, I have an idea. Let's charge all those rich second homeowners that 'aren't
here' a fee for their absence from the property that they own. We could have
neighbors keep track of the time they are gone. We could call it a 'Ghost Fee'.
This plan would also give year rounders tasks to perform during the long, long
dreary winter season.
11:52 pm est 

Re: Provinctown Library

BIG snort to the person who stated that the library can't turn anyone
away.  MANY have been given the "not welcome" message by Cheryl Napsha. The
library board knows this and does nothing about it. Just ask the librarians at
the Truro library. They will testify to their increased numbers of patrons from
Provincetown who have been shunned by that director.  Please fix this problem.
Now that Sharon's gone, maybe Debbie Dejonker would come back. Does anyone know
if she would consider that? The town is far less without her.
11:49 pm est 

Re: Second Home Owners -

Can't figure whether the last post(9:53 Tuesday) was serious or not. 
Can you believe that we should take it seriously?  I called a friend who has a
2nd home a couple of doors away.  He read it and giggled like crazy.  His first
thought was does the poster know the difference between 2nd home owners and
tourists.  He also asked if the poster thinks that all those parking At Grace
have no permits( that cost twice as much as we pay).  He asked whether the 70%
of all tax dollars that come from 2nd home owners pay for police  and fire even
though need for both is fairly proportional to amount of time in town.  He asked
why we spend $750,000 for ambulances when other towns pay about $100,000.  He
can't figure out the connection between a Mews dish washer and the property
manager that he uses.  His guy doesn't work at the Mews.  He is too busy looking
after properties for a good fee per month. HE LOOKED UP THE SCHOOL BUDGET AND
FOUND THAT IT IS OVER $3.3 MILLION.  hOW MA!
NY SECOND OWNERS ARE THERE that have kids in the schools?

he asked me if I ever heard talk about what would the town be like without
second owners.  I said that that was a kind weird question since someone has to
own it all.  He then said that a few years back some big condo association in
NYC had problems with the city and decided to not pay taxes to the city.  They
paid the tax money into some sort of account so the city couldn't get it, but it
was the same as paying the taxes.  He wonders what would happen if all the
second owners decided to do the same in PT.  What would we do if we had no funds
to pay anybody or buy anything.  Would the taxes from just us folks that are
residents actually be enough to keep things going.  My guess is not since they
say that the second owners pay around 70%.  I think that we should look at this
as a pertner deal that can work for us all.  instaed of this fighting. 
Interesting idea.
11:45 pm est 

Public Safety Question

Why is there a fire hydrant in front of town hall but no fire lane.  If any of
the buildings in that area were to catch on fire the fire hydrant would be
blocked.

I love our volunteer fire dept, but isn't this something they should notice?
11:41 pm est 

To the 70 Percent .....

You claim you don't use Provincetown town services.....

Please take a ride around town after Memorial Day,the litter
And garbage at least triples. This is what the 30 percent live
With,long after you collected your $2k in rent.
11:39 pm est 

Point-by-point Refutation: Love it!

Thanks for telling it like it is, "get real." Having basic government services
on call 24/7 while waiting to flip one's condo is nice, but someone must pay for
them. When second homeowners face up to that, taxwise, I'll be more willing to
consider their moaning about taxation without representation. I probably
shouldn't hold my breath.
11:36 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

"OK so rob tosner who freaked out at a public town meeting and called
all those that did not believe as he did in the chief of police(jaran)
malcontents is now on the search committee for a new town manager?? Who
appointed him and why? This smells of the bay and it aint the fish."



So the very person that defended the chief to the very end and said everything
was fine with the police dept. Is now on the search committee. What a slap in
the face.  Oh and love that Ann Mcguire is back in the scene - what a bunch of
bs.
11:34 pm est 

Continuing Cape Cod Commission Withdrawal Petition Event!

WHEN: Saturday and Sunday, February 8 & 9, 10:00 AM to 5:00 PM

WHERE: CAPE COD MALL (by the Food Court), Route 132 in Hyannis

WHAT: Come by the Cape Cod Mall on Saturday or Sunday, February 8 and 9, from
10:00 AM to 5:00 PM to sign a petition for any one of the 15 Cape Cod
municipalities. Each petition seeks to place a ballot question before the voters
of each town essentially asking them if they think that their particular town
should withdraw from the Cape Cod Commission.

WHY: The Cape Cod Commission has a long history of unjust "regulatory takings"
against Cape Cod commercial and residential property owners! This in turn has
stifled our once vibrant local economy and made life here for many barely
tenable.
11:31 pm est 

Re: Catherine Russo - Second Home Owners

Let me say this to the person who says that second home owners should
not be on the search committee just because they have a big organization.  I
agree but they should be on it because they pay huge amounts of TAXES that
really fund PT for the rest of us.

Boston does have a residential tax exemption:

Since 1983, the City of Boston has offered a residential exemption to homeowners
that occupy their property as the principal residence.


Taxpayers who own and occupy their home can save on their tax bill by having a
portion of their tax bill exempted from taxation. To qualify for the residential
exemption, homeowners must own and occupy their home on January 1 preceding the
start of the fiscal year.

The value of the exemption is subtracted from the total full valuation. The
fiscal year residential exemption is 30% of the average value of all residential
property in the City."

However, it is far from what Russo is demanding.  Most residents are owner
occupied.  So very few people don't get the exemption.

In PT it is just the opposite and is clearly meant to reduce the tax on those
that benefit the most from town services.  Russo seems to have a quirky idea
that all second home owners are rich and that all PT residents are poor.  We all
know plenty of residents who are very well off and don't need to have their
taxes subsidized.  Where she gets this silly idea is a total mystery and is
clearly not backed up by any reality.
11:27 pm est 

Tuesday, January 28, 2014

Re: Second Home Owners:
 
>> Get real<<<



Don't use schools-

>> Only about 100 families remain in Town so the huge majority of Town doesn't
use schools<<<

Don't use elder services.

>>Most of elder and veteran services are state- not locally-  funded<<

Use year round residents for property management

>HUH??? Did you mean to say a Townie washes your dishes at the Mews?<

Don't use parking on a regular basis.

>> Second homeowners use town parkings spaces to the tune of $1,000,000 per year
in lost revenue. Just look around at the Grace Hall lot from Sunday evening to
Friday afternoon<<<

Don't ask for public safety when they are not here

>If your house catches on fire when you are in Boston, should we wait for your
to return to "p-town"????  Plus just under half the cost of our police
department service calls are checking on vacant property No one is doing
property checks on my house so that's an extra $1.3 Million+/- in costs to
Town<<

Don't use water or sewer when they are not here

>>>But we have to build it for you when you are here and since you all come at
the same time, we have to build a huge system we don't need<<

Don't use emergency medical when they are not here.

>>But we have to buy extra ambulances because you all come at the same time and
the trip to the  hospital is an hour each way. 3x $750,000 per Ambulance<<<

Don't use the library when they are not here

>> Once again, sherlock, we have to build for maximum capacity since we can't
turn anyone away<<

Don't use the recreation dept when they are not here.

>>> We still have to have a huge portion of the old school and a big rec staff
to accommodate your nephews and nieces all summer long<<<



9:53 am est 

Vincent Currier: Ode to Barbara Rushmore

I would be remiss if I didn't mention my pride in working with Barbara Rushmore on this recall election.
I will be honest and say that I was not thrilled originally when asked by her to be her co-chairman. I am a loner working on these type things, not a "co-chair".
But, again in my life, I was so very wrong.
This woman is a Town treasure. She is strong, never gets discouraged and is painfully honest. She states her opinions unequivocably, and listens to the other side just as enthusiastically. She always considers the feelings of others in coming to any conclusions. And she will not desert or compromise her character or beliefs without a polite and considerate fight.
Her sense of the people and governmental processes in Provincetown are amazing. She walks through the halls and offices of our historic town hall like she is part of the fabric and wood. Everyone knows her, and she is highly respected because of her polite and thoughtful countenance.
Yesterday, after spending two hours collecting signatures at Napi's, giving me hell for whatever, and talking politics and giving thanks to all who listened, I got a ride home with this amazing person. She drives like she lives, other cars on the road are incidental to where she is going, lol. She also had an appointment with a gentleman whose family wanted to donate 1000.00 to the town for the privilege of having a small plaque commemorating their Grandparents who loved Provincetown and sat on the benches in front of Town Hall frequently. On her own time and gas, she drove him around town and showed him the benches that were available for the plaque. And of course, throughout the tour, the history of the benches, and stories of town were interspersed.
She has quietly gone about the business of beautification and she knows and cares about every human that crosses her path in this town. And she can run circles around me. She never gives up, is always alert and "on".
And when she talks about the reasons for wanting to depose Selectman Knight, she always points out the good things he has done for the town before giving her reasons for working for his resignation or recall.
I have a new "hero" in my life here, and her name is Barbara Rushmore. She will always be loved and admired by me, whenever I think of Provincetown, she will be part of those thoughts.
Thank You, Barbara, for letting me have the privilege of co-chairing this important process in Provincetown's history.
9:38 am est 

Re: Second Home Owners -

"A lot of second home owners are just that.
They do not want to live here year round.   This is practically a gated
community for therich without them having to pay any fees for not
being here and protecting their property and those of their neighbors."


1) I am a Second home owner who would LOVE to live here year round and can't
wait to retire here BUT I know I need to leave to return to a job that will pay
my mortgage and taxes here. I do what I need to do to be here - may I suggest
you do the same ?

2) We don't pay any fees ?  What do you think our taxes are ?  On top of that,
you do everything possible to give us no representation for them.

Why don't we just realize that we need to work together and that both sides help
to make this community what it is.  The Second home owner who has made this an
affluent community with corresponding tax revenue and the people that live here
year round helping to look out for the town


9:34 am est 

Cheryl Andrews

I am not discounting that she's a great person. However, past history tells us
she has supported two of the worst candidates in Provincetown's history. Should
we forgive and forget the Michelle Couture fiasco....and Sharon Lynn.  I think
I'll vote differently this time.
9:28 am est 

Re: Second Home Owners

So, 70% of the population that pay taxes shouldn't have a say in the
new Town Manager? That's just wrong. Why should only the 30% of the people who
live in town get to make the decision?
9:27 am est 

Austin Knight Recall

Vincent Currier

Please remember that we will be at NAPI'S Restaurant TUESDAY, JANUARY 28....from 12 to 2. We are almost there, and as with any effort, the end is the hardest to reach. We still need a few more signatures before I feel confident....and tomorrow is as good a day as any to show your support. Austin Knight must be recalled, and a new vote taken. Please show up, every name is needed.
9:24 am est 

Rob Tosner

OK so rob tosner who freaked out at a public town meeting and called
all those that did not believe as he did in the chief of police(jaran)
malcontents is now on the search committee for a new town manager?? Who
appointed him and why? This smells of the bay and it aint the fish.
9:22 am est 

From the Provincetown Lighthouse

Tuesday night the sacred cow is discussed at the BoS meeting…THE SCHOOL BUDGET LIVE STREAM JOIN US FOR THE SHOCKING PRESENTATIONS !
9:20 am est 

So Who is Peter Petas?

He seems to be on every board this days. who is he? Now he is on the town
Manager search committee, the MOpc committee--picked personally by someone--and
now also the energy person.

Who is he? Why is he being selected? All of a sudden, he shows up everywhere>
Really? and gain, why?
9:19 am est 

Rob Tosner is Not the Chamber 's Representative

This is purely disgusting. Rob Tosner represents himself and Jeff Jaran. He is
Jeff's person. Pure and simple

why would anyone want him/who voted for him? this is pure sickness. Yuck.
9:17 am est 

Re: Austin Knight

AUSTIN KNIGHT IS FOR LOWE'S ON THE LOWER CAPE…
9:15 am est 

Re: Rob Tosner

I have a little-bitty reservation with his being the search delegate for our
next town manager on behalf of even the Tea Party, given his support of Jeff
Jaran. Sickening, as he made a fat commission selling Jaran's condo



THIS IS THE VERY MAN THAT CALLED US ALL MALCONTENTS.NOW HE IS ON THE SEARCH
COMMITTEE. I AM SO SICK OF THIS ----. Who appointed him??? Would love an answer.
9:14 am est 

Second Home Owners:

Pay higher taxes because property is more valuable.

Don't use schools

Don't use elder services.

Use year round residents for property management

Don't use parking on a regular basis.

Don't ask for public safety when they are not here

Don't use water or sewer when they are not here

Don't use emergency medical when they are not here.

Don't use the library when they are not here

Don't use the recreation dept when they are not here.

In summary second home owners pay lots of taxes but demand little in service and
spend lots of money on local businesses.  And, you have a problem with that?
They pay more and use less and they are condemned as being bad for that?  Are
you serious?
9:06 am est 

Re: Chamber + PBG + Tosner = What?

I am a member of both the PBG and the Chamber  I have also seen Rob
Tosner in action at town meeting calling citizens an angry mob  while he
supported Jaren  Isn't his boy friend  director of the PBG and now Atwood's
brother works as the assistant  Sure lets let Tosner get in deeper to the
businesses of this town
Right
9:04 am est 

Re: Chamber + PBG + Tosner = What?

Obviously Candace and the chamber don't think serving on the search
committee is important enough.  They've sloughed it off to the same guy
representing the PBG.  How pathetic!
9:02 am est 

Re: Chamber + PBG + Tosner = What?

Tosner???   Tosner????

LOL LOL LOL LOL
9:00 am est 

Re: Chamber + PBG + Tosner = What?

No matter what group he addresses via a microphone, he rants and
raves, whether it's the Planning committee, the Board of Selectmen...

I'd caution the Selectmen in having this guy on the search committee. We don't
need attack dogs on such an important committee.
8:58 am est 

Re: Second Home Owners

Serious question for Catherine Russo or anyone else who may know the
answer.

Up front let me say that I am opposed to taxing second home owners differently
than year rounders.  I believe the residential tax rate should apply to all
residential properties equally.  If an override passed then so be it for
everyone.

My question is, is this even legal?  I tried to Google it.  I tried to find out
on the mass general laws website.  I am not a lawyer or real estate expert and
couldn't find the answer in either of those places.

So Catherine as you are the proposer of this idea, could you let me know how
this is possible under Massachusetts law (specific citation if possible)  and or
give me an example of another town in Mass that does this so I can research the
details myself.

In my searching, I did come across a list of all Mass town and city tax rates
and there is not a single one that lists two residential tax rates.  They all
have only one. In all seriousness, how can this be done under existing Mass
Laws?
8:55 am est 

Re: Second Home Owners

Re: "This is practically a gated community for the
rich without them having to pay any fees for not being here and protecting their
property and those of their neighbors...Time for second home owners to recognize
the negative role they have played in this community and be willing to make amends instead of
insulting us."



Are you for real? Second homeowners are 70% of the home owners according to C.
Russo. They pay most of the taxes.  They bring in most of the business in season
that makes for jobs.  They don't need you to protect their property in the off
season.  That's why we have a police department paid for out of our taxes.  What
are you a neighborhood watch captain or something?

Negative impact? Make amends???  If you're looking for reparations hunt down the
old time townies (you know the real soul of Provincetown) who sold their
properties and converted them to condos and get your reparations from them.

If you want a cheap place to live try moving up cape.  You can still commute
here to work.  In my job off cape I commute an hour each day for my job.  Why
would I do that you ask?   Because I have a good job but I moved to where I
could better afford to live in the style in which I wanted.
12:30 am est 

Re: Chamber + PBG + Tosner = What?

I think the PBG would be better served by sending a representative
that isn't Rob Tosner.  He's turned off a lot of people in the PBG membership.
12:26 am est 

Search Committee

The town shouldn't allow the Second Homeowners to sit at the Town
Manager's search committee.
Just because they've organized as a group isn't a compelling reason for their
participation in this committee.
If we were to follow that logic, there are several other groups of citizens in
town that have been in place for years, and could be included in the search
committee but won't be, at the end of the day.
12:24 am est 

Monday, January 27, 2014

Chamber + PBG + Tosner = What?

About the Chamber and the PBG, someone wrote:

"Different mission statements and far different approaches to marketing."

Great to know!  So why in the world is Rob Tosner being submitted as the 
person to represent both PBG AND the Chamber?
5:59 pm est 

Cheryl Andrews

Sorry But Cheryl Andrews did vote Emphatically for Sharon Lynn

she was Sharon Lynn's advocate. She was a strong supporter of Sharon Lynn. She
voted for her and more than that--she advocated through town for this "great"
candidate.

This is Cheryl Andrews' history. I am not happy with this at all.

And now we should vote for another ten years! Why, indeed?
5:20 pm est 

Re: Chamber + PBG = What?

What, are you 12 years old? Merging the Chamber and PBG makes about as much
sense as the MPO program.

Different mission statements and far different approaches to marketing.

Do your homework.
5:17 pm est 

Chamber + PBG + Tosner = What?

Rob Tosner is the Last Person that should be on the committee

He was the one standing up and speaking for Jeff Jaran when the police union
was voting against him

He does not represent the chamber. He is PBG and even then, he only represents
some of the members.

Rob Tosner is not qualified, given his role as broker for Jeff Jaran's
condominium, to be on the town manager committee.

There is something suspicious and wrong if  he is the choice. A wrong choice
that will not be good for the town.
5:07 pm est 

2006 Town Manager BOS Election

If Richard Olsen Agreed to Vote for Sharon

it was the precedent that happens here too often. He votes against her and then
they want a "unanimous" agreement and then the person, after stating their
opposition, then votes for the person.

He was not for Sharon Lynn. He was for Gaumond. and he voted for Gaumond. but
when they put this other guy as the second candidate, this guy was flawed and
was being sued in Rhose Island. It was a set up and then there was ONE: Sharon
Lynn.

but Cheryl Andrews did vote for Sharon Lynn. the Game was on and she was the
last one standing--all purposeful. All pre-determined. and then the rest is our
poor and sad history.
4:55 pm est 

Austin Knight Recall

Myra Gold -

We will be at Napi's today and tomorrow to collect more signatures for the Austin Knight recall effort, hope to see you all there !
4:49 pm est 

Second Home Owners

A lot of second home owners are just that. They do not want to live here year
round. They want to enjoy the community on their leisure time.  They love what
this community offers. But would they love it if there were no people to take
the low wage jobs that keep the grocery stores and hardware stores open. Would
they love it so much if they came here in the off season and it looked like a
ghost town. They go to their first homes where they can make a lot more money
because there are jobs there.  This is practically a gated community for the
rich without them having to pay any fees for not being here and protecting their
property and those of their neighbors.  Yes, it is the neighbors who live here
year round who keep a watch out for their neighborhoods. Plus we now have to be
called welfare queens and the poor sucking off the rich, while we keep this
community running. Time for second home owners to recognize the negative role
they have played in this community and be willing to make amends instead of
insulting us.
4:43 pm est 

Re: Chamber + PBG = What?

Why would the Chamber relinquish their chance to have their own
representative at the committee that will recommend a town manager?
4:40 pm est 

Re: Cheryl Andrews

Ann, Harriet, Sarah Peake......Cheryl Andrews

Connect the dots.  Cheryl will be doing the dirty work for the Gang of Three. Of
course, she wants to do us a favor.  Only it won't be us she's working for.
4:39 pm est 

Cheryl Andrews

Endorsed both Sharon Lynn and Michelle Couture. Make up your own minds. Do we
want more of the same? We are still picking up the pieces of Couture, and will
be picking up the pieces from Lynn for a long time. Is this the kind of person
we want on the BOS? Connected to Peake.  Another puppet!
4:37 pm est 

Cape Cod Commission

REGION-WIDE CAPE COD COMMISSION WITHDRAWAL MOVEMENT

As many people are now aware, there is a region-wide, Cape Cod Commission
Withdrawal Movement afoot. It entails a county-wide petition drive divided by
the fifteen Cape municipalities.

Why is this happening? For many reasons, but the denial of the Dennis Lowes
project was the straw that broke the camels back.

According to the Cape Cod Commission, its overall mission is to  keep a special
place special

to protect the unique values and quality of life on Cape Cod by coordinating a
balanced relationship between environmental protection and economic progress.

We say that after nearly a quarter-century in existence, the Cape Cod Commission
has turned out to be a taxpayer subsidized, unaccountable, less-than-transparent
and controversial multi-million dollar regional bureaucracy which has failed
miserably on all segments of their stated mission.

It is a detrimental, fiscally expensive and unnecessary extra-layer of county
government which has stifled economic development on Cape Cod to the point
whereby our next generation of citizens is now fleeing in multitudes because
there are no decent paying jobs and they cannot afford to reside here.

For these and other reasons listed below, we simply believe that the voters in
each Cape Cod town deserve to have the right to at least weigh-in on this
important issue. The collective voices of Cape Codders need to be expressed as
to whether their particular towns should continue on as a members of the Cape
Cod Commission, or if they believe that their town would be better off without
it.

The voters should be able to decide, and these petitions, if successful, will
help to provide the opportunity and forum for that to happen within each
municipality on this peninsula.

In addition to a staff nearly of 50 lucratively paid county government officials
(many with six figure salaries plus benefits), the Cape Cod Commission is
composed of fifteen APPOINTED and NON-ELECTED municipal representatives, a
minority representative, a Native American representative, a representative from
the Barnstable County Commissioners Office, and an appointee of the Governors
Office.

Since 1990, when all is said and done, the Cape Cod Commission has
systematically mutated its mission and outlived the purposes for which it was
originally intended. It is no longer useful to Cape Codders and their respective
towns but a hindrance to economic prosperity, affordable housing, and
environmental protection.

Over the years, the Cape Cod Commission has consistently failed to carry out its
stated mission, by:

·         NOT sufficiently pursuing a multidisciplinary, comprehensive approach
to planning, environmental protection, and economic development

·         NOT adequately identifying regional opportunities to improve
infrastructure and make progress on economic challenges

·         FAILING to provide the community with accurate, up-to-date and/or
unbiased data and research.

The CCC has managed to incessantly increase its annual budget and bloated staff
of overpaid bureaucrats to the tune of millions of dollars!  Despite having
enormous power over the economic, social, cultural and environmental status of
the Cape, by their own self-decreed  policies, Commission representatives
clearly state in writing that they are NOT answerable to ANYONE other than
themselves, including the municipal officials who originally appointed them, as
well as YOU, THE VOTERS AND TAXPAYERS of Cape Cod!

Finally, it is contended that Cape towns are overcharged for the services they
receive from the Cape Cod Commission, and underrepresented relative to its
membership and input into its governance and activities. Furthermore, the Cape
Cod Commission has outlived its usefulness for which it was originally intended.
Moreover, it wastefully duplicates the functions of numerous federal and state
environmental and regulatory agencies, municipal departments, committees, boards
and commissions like their planning department, conservation commission, zoning
board of appeals, regulatory services or inspectional services division,
licensing authority, engineering department, growth management department,
historic commission, old kings highway historic district committee, community
preservation committee, water department, water quality  or wastewater
committee, and their building department, among many others.

The Cape Cod Commission believes that it makes the rules, but does not have to
play by them. As the voters of Cape Cod, lets show them that such an outlandish
bureaucratic view and senseless behavior will not be tolerated by us, the
governed. In the end, we are supposed to be the bosses, not them! By signing the
petition for your particular town, you are doing exactly that. They only have as
much power over us as we allow them to have. We can and should restrict that
power as we see fit.

Ron Beaty
4:36 pm est 

The Chicken & the Egg

"You can't have it both ways.  You can't deny employment growth, but
increase taxes to pay for affordable housing."


Exactly-  Jobs first then housing. It is so plain and simple . Create Jobs then
we will deal with the housing issue. All this affordable housing and the
majority in the already created affordable housing are out of work 5 months out
of the year. Provincetown is what it is. A seasonal destination Town. I say NO
more affordable housing until we can create more YEAR ROUND Jobs.
4:29 pm est 

An American Myth

This country has moved so far to the right that so few really
understand what it means to be on the left. Once upon a time I was on the left. 
Now I'm being labeled as an extreme leftist.  My basic belief is that in this
special lovely moment in history, we all share planet earth. We owe the earth
for our very existence.  We owe each other the basic respect of decent living
conditions.  I say "owe" because I do believe we have a responsibility to each
other and to Mother Earth. Nobody made it on their own.  It is an American myth
that people can do so. Much of our well being in this country is made off the
backs of those less fortunate in other parts of the world.  It amazes me that
people with access to information, choose to stay ignorant of where their
abundance came from and at what price.

Catherine Russo
4:24 pm est 

Re: Rob Tosner

I have a little-bitty reservation with his being the search delegate for our
next town manager on behalf of even the Tea Party, given his support of Jeff
Jaran. Sickening, as he made a fat commission selling Jaran's condo.
3:47 pm est 

Chamber/PBG Choice for Town Manager Search Committee??

Hopefully, he won't go off the wall like he did at BOS meetings on
more than one topic, not only his beloved Jaran.  The guy becomes unhinged
easily.  Too bad that they couldn't appoint someone more stable.
11:38 pm est 

Richard Olson - Voted for Sharon Lynn in 2006

So Olson also voted yes on Sharon's hiring?
11:37 pm est 

BOS 2006 Vote For Sharon Lynn

How did Richard Olson or Cheryl Andrews vote against Sharon Lynn?  If
the minutes of the executive session of March 2, 2007 are correct:
MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to offer the position of Town
Manager to Sharon Lynn subject to satisfactory contract negotiations with
Consultant
Tom Groux. (Roll Call Vote)

Richard Olson - Yes Michele Couture  Yes David Nicolau  Yea
Cheryl Andrews  Yes Sarah Peake - Yes
Motion by: Cheryl Andrews Seconded by: Richard Olson
Yea 5 Nay 0 - Motion Passes -
11:36 pm est 

Question

Can anyone here indicate those who were on the BOS at the time when it
voted to select the candidate for TM. Also, who voted for Sharon, and who voted
for someone else?
11:33 pm est 

Chamber + PBG = What?

Some of you may question the Chamber's decision to send Rob Tosner as
the Chamber's representative in the search committee because he's representing
the PBG on the search committee as well.

I see no problem with it. Frankly, it's time for the PBG to take over the
Chamber. These two organizations should be merged once and for all, and have one
Director become the head of this newly merged organization.  Exactly the way
they've done with the search committee's representation.  By sending the PBG
person to represent the Chamber also, one can deduce where the real leadership
is - and it's not at the Chamber's.
11:32 pm est 

I Also Remember the Vote for Sharon Lynn

It was Cheryl Andrews that voted for her and Sarah Peake and Michelle Couture. I
know that these three did vote for Sharon Lynn and look at what has happened
since then? she was not the best nor the brightest but they did vote for her.

And now seven years later, we are picking up the crumbs at a party that has few
celebrating.
11:29 pm est 

If Rob Tosner is Appointed

well, maybe we'll have Jeff Jaran back as chief. He was the one talking about
the rabble rousers and those who caused problems in Provincetown. Rob Tosner was
the public supporter and still is of Jeff Jaran and--yes--he is the broker for
Jeff Jaran's Ice House Condominium. that in itself should eliminate Rob Tosner
from being selected for the Town Manager Serach Committee.

However, this town goes back to its old self and just watch: Rob Tosner will
probably  be selected to "serve."  Whose interests will this man represent?
whose bidding will he be doing?

11:28 pm est 

Employment vs Affordable Housing

You can't have it both ways.  You can't deny employment growth, but increase
taxes to pay for affordable housing.  People need employment so they can afford
affordable housing.  I don't understand why folks are out to stop additional
employment from coming to town in the form of Kiehl's.  It appears to me that
many of the folks that are screaming the loudest for affordable housing are the
same ones screaming loudly to stop Kiehl's from coming to town.
11:26 pm est 

Town Planner Position

I just recently returned from a two month trip in Europoe and read the banner
article regarding the recent hire of a town planner.  Seems to me our town is
about 15 years too late for a position such as this one. Exactly what planning
could there possibly be for our little town that is almost at buildout state. 
According to one speaker at town meeting when the questioned was asked how much
land is availbale the answer was I believe 80 lots.

Wonders never cease to amaze me though. Perhaps there are rabbits in the hat
that us taxpayers are unaware of.
11:24 pm est 

3-02-07. BOS Minutes (Executive Session)

MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to offer the position of Town
Manager to Sharon Lynn subject to satisfactory contract negotiations with
Consultant Tom Groux. (Roll Call Vote)
Richard Olson - Yes
Michele Couture  Yes
David Nicolau  Yea
Cheryl Andrews  Yes
Sarah Peake - Yes
Motion by: Cheryl Andrews Seconded by: Richard Olson Yea 5 Nay 0 - Motion Passes

Is Andrews trying to re-write history?  She made the motion.
11:20 pm est 

Re: Real Estate Evolution

Re: "This town was sold out by the old townies and they are the ones
who should be blamed."
AND "You got to be kidding me!  The townies are to blame for the conversion of
condos? The realtors are the ones who pushed it."


The realtors (I'm not one) forced no one to sell.  People, including townies,
took the money and left.  A woman who frequently writes about what is wrong with
Provincetown sold her property and moved to Caifornia.  She sold out, took the
money and left.

Good for her, but she and her husband ain't got the right to tell anyone else not
to do the same.
11:16 pm est 

Sunday, January 26, 2014

Austin Knight

Someone said that Austin Knight was thinking of stepping down as
Selectman.  Anyone hear this?
8:43 pm est 

Re: Cheryl Andrews - 2006 Town Manager BOS Vote

Cheryl Andrews did Indeed vote to Hire Sharon Lynn

Let's not rewrite history. Only one selectman voted against her and that was
Richard Olsen. Cheryl Andrews was a strong and vocal proponent of Sharon Lynn.
she casts her vote for Sharon Lynn and the rest, my dears, is history.
8:38 pm est 

Town Manager Search Committee

Anyone know why the chamber and PBG thought appointing Rob Tosner to
the Town Manager search committee would help promote business interests?
8:36 pm est 

Province Landing Crying

The town paid a million dollars for the land that is Province Landing and gave
it to a developer.

Now it is completed and people aren't happy because they are living in an
apartment complex. There is noise. The article in the banner said that the
police are there all of the time due to the residents who live there.

Now Catherine Russo and the renters are demanding more and more of the tax
dollars to support more of these developments. They feel entitled. Cough up
taxpayers and open  your wallets.

4:02 pm est 

Three Million and Counting

The taxpayers have spent $3,000,000.00 on land going to developers--and where
are the jobs that having housing was going to create? Where has this virtuous
circle gotten us?

Again, it the demand for more affordable housing and yet there are no jobs for a
workforce of thirty year old folks and above who don't want to work year round.

Now there is this drive by renters to create even more "affordable" housing on
the backs of the hardworking year round taxpayers and second homeowners.

These renters are going to pack town meeting and direct all of the town
resources into making developers richer as they develop every square inch of
town for affordable housing--housing with no year round jobs to support the
folks who feel entitled to live here.

These folks who chose to live in a place with out good paying jobs to support
them are growing bitter and angry as they age and will demand more and more of
the  taxpayers money to support them.

That is what I have seen by working with some of these people. They CHOSE to
live seasonally here and go to Florida for the winter.

Now they are older and Provincetown is slipping through self appointed entitled
hands. They had their chances and they chose to rent and live in self induced
poverty, working under the table and two jobs in the summer and taking the
winter off--and they are still doing it.

Now you are supposed to feel sorry for them as they demand that the town raises
the taxes on the taxpayers to pay for their housing.

The taxpayers will only take so much.



4:00 pm est 

Re: Real Estate Evolution

Yes, many artists...the creative class...have hauled out of
Provincetown. Writers, painters, furniture makers, poets. The town used to
cherish creativity, now it is only a commodity. Those richer with less visionary
really only want a playground with moderate taxes. Well, that's what you've got.

Oh, and a sprinkling of the slipping middle class, fearing that their properties
will be taxed to death.
2:50 pm est 

Condo Converison

Landlords there is a law on the books in Mass....that states if you intend to
convert to condos ...You must give your renter a 1 year written notice or buy
them off ...if your renter in disabled or elderly you must give a 2 year written
notice.. It's called the condo converison law...realators hate this
law....people just don't know about it
2:45 pm est 

Landlords Need to be Informed

If you rent an apt at affordable rates..A 1 bedroom you can rent for $921.00 a
month. Then you can wright the square footage off your taxes...If your renter
makes less then 52 thousand a year they can get fuel assistance at $1,200.00 a
year and the money goes to the fuel company.
My landlord makes money off my apt...no taxes and free fuel. Check out the town
website....Who can pay $2,000.00 a month in the summer....Be informed and keep
locals here
1:47 pm est 

Re: Real Estate Evolution

"This town was sold out by the old townies and they are the ones who
should be blamed."



You got to be kidding me!  The townies are to
blame for the conversion of condos? The realtors are the ones who pushed it.

Greedy b.........!

Not a native townie, just someone who is losing the battle to live here and will
sell my house within the next 2 years :(
1:39 pm est 

Taxing Second Home Owners

Chatherine Russo - Provincetown Lighthouse - Jan. 24, 2014

I'd like to offer my proposal again, with a little more clarity.
We live in a community that is greatly suffering due to an imbalance.
If we could raise some significant funds that we controlled and that
did not get us into more debt, we should explore this avenue.
We should significantly raise the residential tax rate with an override at town meeting.
We should make an exemption for year round residential owners so that their taxes
do not go up. With 70% second home ownership this could bring in some significant
funds with which to build or buy community housing.
In order to do this override we are obliged to have a good reason and dedicate the
funds to this, namely community housing. The town finance director has told me
this is possible. It would have the following benefits:
We would control these funds with no strings attached
The State already allows this
We would get the money pretty fast.
For second home owners that are wealthy or very well off, our tax rate is most likely
already low compared to where their first homes are.
For people who are not wealthy but could maybe afford a condo here,
it will slow them down if they have to consider a larger tax burden.
This tax has the possibility of slowing down condo conversion, one of the main drivers
of the imbalance in housing.
I can't think of another pot of money that we could control, get pretty fast and
not get us into debt. In the first year alone, having these funds means we could set up a system of buying homes and renting them or many other visions that came up
at the housing summit.
This is not class warfare. This is a reasonable, sensible, modest tool that many
communities have used.
If you attended the housing summit, then you know how hard it will be to
find the money to save the soul of this community.
1:34 pm est 

Be Careful!!

Tom,Erik, and members of FinCom best take whatever Catherine Russo has
to say with careful, mindful thought.  It appears to me she is trying to sway
the newly elected to the BOS so far to the left- she is going to push them over
a cliff if they do not watch themselves.
1:25 pm est 

What is the Rush to Hire a New Town Manager?

"Why don't we wait until after the may elections to begin hiring a new town
manager. We already have an acting town manager who seems to be doing a good
job.

Do we really want Austin Knight voting on our new town manager? this makes no
sense."


Those voting as BOs members may not even be here in May. So those who are
elected in may 2014 should be the ones to vote on the new Town Manager.
Otherwise, we have three Sharon Lynn backers who could control the vote and hire
another Sharon Lynn candidate.

This is a mistake. Wait. Again, why rush?
1:19 pm est 

Re: No Free Lunch in Provincetown

It's not a case of NIMBY.  It's a case of NBOMBY ( not built off my
back y'all).  I don't care how much public housing is built or subsidized in
Provincetown as long as you don't expect struggling homeowners to pay for it. 
We are not all rich you know.  I bought my modest two bedroom condo (second home
to the socialists) 18 years ago.  I paid in the mid five figures.  I got a
fifteen year mortgage and paid it off over time by renting to vacationers a few
weeks in the summer and scrimping and saving elsewhere.


If you found a way to get grants or donations to build housing then hooray go
for it.  If you expect me to pay for others who made other choices I say no way.
I can't afford it.

I'm delighted to see you found life and flourished after Provincetown.  Please
forward your story to C. Russo. So that she may share your story with the
housing committee.
12:08 pm est 

What's the Rush?

Why Don't We Wait to Hire a Town Manager Until After the May election?

Do we really want Austin Knight voting to hire a new town manager? this makes no
sense.

We have an acting town manager and he seems to be doing a good job in this
position. Let everything settle down and then after may, with fresh faces, then
begin the search.

Otherwise, we are doomed to repeat our mistakes again.

What is the rush?
12:06 pm est 

Town Planner - Please Explain the Position

Does the Charter State that the Town Planner must Reside in
Provincetown?

I know that the Police chief and town manager and the DPW director must reside
in Provincetown. But town planner?

What exactly is the town planner's job? She sits at various board meetings, but
what exactly was she hired to do? It just can't be to sit and attend board
meetings? that just doesn't make much sense.

Does anyone know what her job is?
12:03 pm est 

Re: We're Not That Naive!

"Now that the "puppeteer" has abandoned her strings..."


HER strings????  You mean the puppeteer is a woman???  Darn!  And all along I'd
been thinking it was a man.
10:24 am est 

Cabal

"Paranoia runs deep 4 people shouting in the street singing songs and carrying
signs mostly saying hooray for our side"  let's start looking on the bright side
and stop griping and complaining, work hard go to school make something of your
self and THEN you can afford to live in a tourist resort area. Stop crying poor
me.
10:22 am est 

Welfare Queen et ux

I had plans on renovating my garage to ayearround apartment for a two fold win,
rent money in my pocket and a decent place for a person or a couple to live, one
bedroom, ground floor etc. I was even going to start renting my home in the
winter for a very low rate considering I leave for the entire winter and it sits
empty. Might as well make some money and someone happy, no? After reading in
here all the p##sing and moaning regarding rentals, no way am I doing it now.
Renters whine all day about every possible item that's not perfect, I'd never be
able to raise the rent even if it's legit and out of my hands (tax increases,
fuel increases, etc.) and if ever I needed to evict the tenants , especially the
seasonal ones, it seems impossible to do. Then there's the resent from the
socialists amongst us all that will complain that by making additional income
from a rental I'm somehow taking advantage of the needy. I wanted to rent the
garage at the local affordable rate, not something outrageous but not now.
I'm better off keeping my cars warm and my sanity intact.
10:17 am est 

Re: No Free Lunch in Provincetown

'I believe housing is a right just like food and healthcare, the right
to live in a beautifull seaside resort because you want to...not so much.'



A classic case of NIMBY. Not in my back yard. Housing is a right the poster
says, but Provincetown is too beautiful for you.

Believe me,there are places in the world that far exceed Provincetown's beauty.
And are a lot kinder. So go move there you say? I did. I'm one of the visual
artists who reluctantly moved away. Not only did I survive...I flourished.
10:13 am est 

Re: We're Not That Naive!

Re:"1.  The cabal rigs the committee so that...
      2.  The cabal makes it a point to offer "guidance...
      3.  And  the beat goes on... "


Ok. Who exactly, is the cabal now? Now that the "puppeteer" has abandoned her
strings? There's always someone/something else to blame. Some cabal. Some
housing commie renters. Some piggy rich homeowners.

Don't sit shaking in your boots. Join a committee already.
10:06 am est 

Re: Real Estate Evolution

"These multi family homes were built when there was a workforce that
needed housing. This was a great way to get several families in one building.
..............."



I have supported and been proud of the change in the town . However, I agree
whole heartedly with this poster. You CANNOT penalize the very people that keep
this town runniing. IT IS BASIC ECONOMICS 101.  Tom Donegan- I supported you.
You are a smart man. You know business dynamics. This is just wrong. People like
Catherine Russo will bring you down. There is no economic basis for this
proposal. It will end with disaster. Tom- give careful thought to this one. Thus
far you have proven yourself as a very intelligent, trustworthy selectmen. DO
NOT  let this be your DEMISE so early in the game. Just my humble opinion.

10:00 am est 

Re: Get a Job and Quit Whining

Got one -- two, last summer. And I'll whine as long as necessary. What I won't
do is pay one whit to the lordly threats of several posters to convert their
homes to condos, effective yesterday. Nor will I leave town because I supposedly
can't afford to live here. After YOU, my arrogant dearies!

-The Welfare "Queen"
11:55 pm est 

Cheryl Andrews.

Yes, I can tell you .. she did not vote for Sharon
Lynn. The vote was 3 to 2 .. check the minutes .. or call the Town Clerk he can
tell you what the vote was.  Cheryl is the only one who had - and - has a clear
head on her shoulders.  She is running to help all of us with the Board of
Selectmen to get them on a smooth track. Trust me, you should be very thankful
that she is willing to fill the seat for 2 years.  Her expertise is worth every
penny. I suggest that if you have any questions / concerns about her or her
motive for running - pick up the phone and give her a buzz. Again, trust me -
she was one of the best Selectmen we've ever had. I did not always agree with
her but in the long run .. she was tops and did a lot for and is still doing a
lot for Provincetown. It certainly won't be easy to find someone as dedicated to
the Town and represents the town as much as Cheryl.  I know, as a citizen of
Provincetown, I've experienced it first hand. Sh!
e is very fair, open and honest and a fantastic listener.
11:52 pm est 

Saturday, January 25, 2014

Cheryl Andrews

Yeah, I tend to agree with you when it comes to voting Cheryl back in. Why is
she so gung ho about getting back in now that Sharon is gone.  Where was she? 
Does she have another candidate for TM that she'll be touting?

Fool us twice...shame on us.
10:05 pm est 

Real Estate Evolution

These multi family homes were built when there was a workforce that needed
housing. This was a great way to get several families in one building.

Times have changed and that is passe. No one can buy a  two or three family home
for $800,000.00 and live in one apartment and rent out the other apartment (s)
to help pay the mortgage.

The only recourse is to turn them into condos. The first condos in Massachusetts
were created here in Provincetown!

With this swirl of vitriol against second homeowners and condo
conversions--Property owners have no choice but to condo their property as soon
as possible or their property will be so loaded with restrictions that no one
will buy it.

This is what the housing summit is going to cause. Catherin Russo should scare
all of you property owners into action--it sure scares some people that I know
and the whole summit is getting geared up to take over town hall and make
taxpayers pay out the nose to create housing for them. Its gives me the
shivvvverrs-just sayin'
10:03 pm est 

Cheryl Andrews

So Cheryl Andrews was on the BOS when Sharon was appointed and now we
are suppose to vote her back in?

Can someone explain?
4:14 pm est 

Re: No Free Lunch in Provincetown

"Catherine Russo...
is on topic and on target. Second-homeowner fatcats, not so much. There is NO
FREE LUNCH in P'town except at the Methodist Church Soup Kitchen and the
Provincetown AIDS Support Group. So, flip your flats often as you like while
renting them for a Queen's ransom along the way. But understand that we will
rightfully claim a chunk of your greasy gains by way of property tax hikes and
means to be devised. Tax law is on our side. Did you really think you'd steal a
mint on the back of working people in this town? Meet me at the corner of
Commercial and Get Real and I'll happily school you further."




Go get a job and quit whining.
4:11 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

The Search committee Provided the Names of the "best" Four Candidates

and of course Sharon was one of them. there was a guy from Florida, a guy from
Springfield, a guy from Rhode Island who I think was on probation or was fired.
This is what the Search Committee came up with.

I knew long before the names were presented to the BOs that Sharon Lynn was one
of them. It was payback for the town first hiring Sharon Lynn as Police chief
and then calling here and taking back the offer and hiring Ted Myers instead.
there was a group that never got over this.

At the interviews, Sharon was not the best. but she was picked as was the guy
from Rhode Island, who had a questionable past. that made it easy to dismiss him
and then Voila! hire Sharon Lynn.

the dice were stacked and she was hired by political pull and not by leadership
and vision. She came from West Goshen and it was a small little town that failed
to prepare her for Provincetown. But she was intent, once she was here, to hire
her own department heads. Which she did and to let go of long term town
employees--which she also did.

It was the BOS that hired her and that included Cheryl Andrews-- a strong
proponent of Sharon--and all the others including Sarah Peake who was then our
State Representative as well as our Selectman.

The only BOS member who voted against Sharon Lynn was Richard Olson. He did not
believe Sharon was the best. He wanted Gaumond who was impressive.

That is how we got Sharon Lynn.
4:10 pm est 

Re: No Free Lunch in Provincetown

Keep your grimy grubs off of my greenbacks.  If there is no free lunch why are
you constantly trying to pilfer pie from my plate so that your freeloading
friends can fund housing for people who can't afford to live here.

I believe housing is a right just like food and healthcare, the right to live in
a beautifull seaside resort because you want to...not so much.

If someone can't afford a place to live, they should apply for section eight or
get on the list for a spot in public housing.  They should not burden their
neighbors with draconian demands for dollars in the form of higher real estate
taxes to fund thier own laidback lifestyle!

If you gota problem understanding this meet me at the corner of free market and
this is America and I'll be glad to splain it to you.
4:06 pm est 

Troubling

I find the conversation about extra taxes on Second Home Owners very troubling.
As a current year round property owner I find this so outrageous in both the
unfairness of it as well as an attempt to re-engineer our local community into a
communist or socialist town. This is ALL that Russo represents and needs to be
stopped.

The problem is not with the local population (year round and second home)since
we all contribute greatly to the welfare of this town with jobs, tax revenue,
affordable housing and land conservation. Now you are asking us to provide more
support to a community that for the most part works seasonally and collects. For
the most part they want cheap housing to rent of which they participate very
little in the fabric and revenue of this town.

This town was sold out by the old townies and they are the ones who should be
blamed. Any property that is converted to condos, the Seller should pay an extra
tax since they are the ones who are benefitting from the condo conversion. Also,
this town is being sold out by the business owners who continue to pay the
lowest wages I have ever seen. Most businesses in my lifetime had to pay a
reasonable wage, provide health insurance and overtime pay. The business owners
in this town and their treatment of the work force are the real reason for this
inequality. I did not buy my house from the wages I earned here since anything I
earned always had to be supplemented by working outside of Provincetown. Usually
when there is little opportunity  for employment in ones town, one tends to move
rather than always look for more hand outs.
4:03 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

"I'd bet the majority of those condemning the skilled people who step
up to the plate or are asked to participate in the search have little to offer
other than sitting mute until a perceived wronging occurs...then become arm
chair experts."



You make an excellent argument for the BOS choosing new blood for that
committee.
And I think everybody gets the fact that the search committee's role is to
recommend.  Just make sure that the people that sit on that committee widely
represents our community, and is not stacked with the usual gang. You got away
with once.  It won't happen twice.
4:00 pm est 

Provincetown Public Library

Amy,

In your website, the library hours you have posted are incorrect.  The library
hasn't had that schedule in years.
3:58 pm est 

We're Not That Naive!

1.  The cabal rigs the committee so that... lo and behold, the candidate that
can best do the cabal's bidding gets its name submitted to the BOS.
2.  The cabal makes it a point to offer "guidance" to the new TM, letting him or
her know that the selection was due to the wonderful work of the cabal. That new
TM owes the cabal his or her new job.
3.  Things like property assessments receive a different treatment - never
higher than those with comparable properties.
And  the beat goes on...
3:51 pm est 

Many Thoughts on Many Subjects

The profile of our new Town Planner in the recent Banner publication
was glowing! The Town talked about a planner for years but it was always thought
by the voters that was one position not needed! More so now that land is almost
non existent,but it was now voted to create such a position so that the planner
could establish a 5 year plan and to work with the affordable housing person !
It appears according to P.T.V. televised regulartory meetings that the new
planner is spending too much time at trying to direct those meetings! What was
the new position created to do according to job description? On another
matter,is the Town Charter eing adhered to? It states that specific personnel
must live in Provincetown,ie: D.P.W. Director,Police Chief,Town Planner &Town
Manager. It is reported that people in 2 of those positions are living in Truro.
Have they been advised they are in violation of the Town Charter? Catherine
Russo is right! Condo owners and businesses don"t w!
ant a separate tax rate for their own gain! Small home owners with out income
property are on the same tax rate  as others with business & rental
property,condos & other! Tell me that's fair!!  Ms. Russo is correct! There's
nothing socielistic about her method to fix our problems! If people love this
town so much they want a second home here, it shouldn't become a business! It
should be just that, a private home!!You tell people with affordable housing
they can't afford to live here! Well it appears that you can't either if you
condo everything for your selves and leave nothing for anyone else! You suffer
from greed!When the single homeowners have tried to upgrade they are crucified
and give up! Realtors have seriously damaged this place.!
3:32 pm est 

PTV Announcement

PTV is thrilled to announce our new show, “Who Do You Know?”. All community members are invited to the PTV studio to record a program. We all have that one friend who is just fascinating, has or had an interesting career or maybe is just incredibly unique in that undeniably Provincetown way. Come on in, sit down and introduce us to your friends. There is only one rule, you can't sell a product or service. Contact Amy Davies at PTV for more info. amy@provincetowntv.org or 508.487.0648. Our sincere thanks to Zoe Lewis for the perfect theme song!
11:15 am est 

Re:Town Manager Search Committee

Does anyone have FACTS about the last search committee other than who
was on it.  What about the actual committee votes and text of the
recommendation?  Remember, the committee did NOT appoint Sharon.  The BOS
appointed her.  I am reading lots of stuff about who not to appoint to the
committee but nothing about WHY not to appoint them, other than Sharon got
hired.  Not a single word has been posted about who voted for who.  Convince us
that every member of the last group did a bad job.  Give us names and votes and
anything else, then we can weigh your opinion properly.
11:06 am est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

All this ninny nanny yammering about who should or shouldn't be on the
town manager search committee is getting old real fast. Why publish each comment
containing finger pointing and blame about Sharon's hire?


I'd bet the majority of those condemning the skilled people who step up to the
plate or are asked to participate in the search have little to offer other than
sitting mute until a perceived wronging occurs...then become arm chair experts.
10:57 am est 

Re: Provincetown School System

School

There was absolutely no problem with a punishment for wrong doing but,
really...... in an email?

Is that the schools new policy to avoid confrontation?

A sit down would have worked the situation out much better
than reading it from an email to a child...  And also would have been more
professional.

Whats next...  Parent/Teacher conference via email?    How sad.....

10:54 am est 

Provincetown School system

WOW

So I heard today that a pre school child (5) got in trouble at school and     
     sent the punishment to the parents via Email !  Is that what you call a
professional educator with a degree in education?  What happened to calling in
the parents and the child and explaining it to them in person.  Especially the
child who isn't going to understand an email message ! Perhaps that was the
coward way out ?

This truly explains why the Provincetown School system is crumbling....

Shame on you     .....You are certainly not helping the children in any way ....
10:52 am est 

Re: Taxing 2nd Homeowners


Catherine Russo...
is on topic and on target. Second-homeowner fatcats, not so much. There is NO
FREE LUNCH in P'town except at the Methodist Church Soup Kitchen and the
Provincetown AIDS Support Group. So, flip your flats often as you like while
renting them for a Queen's ransom along the way. But understand that we will
rightfully claim a chunk of your greasy gains by way of property tax hikes and
means to be devised. Tax law is on our side. Did you really think you'd steal a
mint on the back of working people in this town? Meet me at the corner of
Commercial and Get Real and I'll happily school you further.

--The Welfare "Queen."

10:49 am est 

Friday, January 24, 2014

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

Elaine  Anderson should not be a member of the town manager search
group. She has no original thoughts, and was a puppet of Sharon Lynn.
10:55 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

Austin Knifht should not be part of the selection committee for the
new town manager! The fact he is an unetical person is proven, why consider
having him on the team? If all goes well he will be recalled from his selectmens
position, proving peoples lack of faith in his judgement.
10:53 pm est 

Taxing 2nd Homeowners

Who died and made you the keeper of Provincetown's soul?  Provincetown
has changed you can't stop what's already happened.  The fishing industry is
gone.  All we have left is tourism.  Face the facts.  People don't want to or
can't afford to move here and make it a hwouldn'tause there are few full time,
year round jobs.   The only people that could move here are those that don't
need jobs, the well off and the retired.

You can't tax us back to some idealized vision of Provincetown the way it used
to be in the fifties sixties and even seventies.  That place only exists in your
mind.

If the soul of Provincetown was lost to condos, it was the original townies who
sold their properties longgggg ago who did the selling.  It's too bad you made
other choices back then when you could have purchased a place in town for short
money.  if only you did you wouldn't be coming to the rest of us hard working
taxpayes with your hand out all the time.
10:49 pm est 

Taxing 2nd Homeowners

"We should significantly raise the residential tax rate with an override at town
meeting." 

Catherine Russo- How out of touch with reality are you. Significantly
penalize 2nd home owners who patonize this town and keep ALL the local
businesses IN BUSINESS.  WOW-you really need to take some lessons in finanace
and economics.  Scary- and you are on the finance committee.  UHHHHH
10:40 pm est 

Cheryl, do Not Apply Again

DO not apply again for the town manager search committee. You were there before
and you were part 0f us getting Sharon Lynn. No, please. Stay away. We need an
objective perspective and you cannot give this to us
10:38 pm est 

Get A Life, Id!

You think you know so much. If someone was on the other search committee, they
did a terrible job. Plain and simple. No explanations. No excuses. No one who
was on the other town manager Search Committe need apply.

We have already suffered from your poor decisions.
10:34 pm est 

Taxing 2nd Homeowners

With respect to Catherine Russo, certainly an esteemed member of the community,
her contention that taxing 2nd homeowners at a rate higher than year-round
homeowners is modest, sensible and reasonable is actually discriminatory and
appalling. Why punish people who love Provincetown and choose to make it their
second home? Regardless of whether or not Provincetown's tax rate may be lower
than a second homeowner's primary hometown rate, penalizing people who have
invested in the town is wrong and would have a deleterious effect on the value
of real estate in town and would send a message that second homeowners, who, by
the way, have no real say in the operations of the town, are second class
citizens and have no value to the community other than the extra tax revenue
their presence would provide. For a town that has built its appeal on the idea
of non-discrimination, the implementation of such a suggestion would represent
one of the most egregious examples of  discrimination w!
e have seen to date. Cloaking discrimination with "affordable housing" is
especially offensive, both to intelligent thought and to social justice.
10:32 pm est 

Re: Catherine Russo

Well if there was any doubt about what the "housing summit" has in mind, look no
further.  Catherine Russo sums it all up in a nutshell.  Take, take, take, more,
more, more from property owners (except year rounders like her and her friends
of course because they are entitled).  They aren't rich like us nasty working
people who have to live elsewhere so that we can keep a decent job and afford a
little piece of paradise that certain others expect to get for free.

Never mind that some of those year rounders may be well off business owners and
comfortably retired people.  They live here (and vote here) so we'll give them a
break.  After all if we raised the taxes on everyone equally then those who vote
here would never raise their own taxes would they.

Here is an idea; How about a means test instead of a blanket year rounder
exemption for the tax break?  That way you can take from each according to their
means and give to those according to their needs.  I mean if you are going to go
socialist why not just go full on socialist.

I say put your money where your own mouth is Ms Russo.  I question whether or
not you check off the box on your own state income tax to voluntarily pay the
higher rate so that others less fortunate than you can get more state services? 
Well do you Ms. Russo? I doubt it.  You gotta love people like this.  Always
willing to help out the less fortunate by giving them the shirt off YOUR back.

By the way the taxes here aren't exactly low and don't forget to add the water
10:29 pm est 

We Need a Community We Need a Soul

 Sad that many property owners' concerns is if their properties can be
converted into condos or not.  Seems that many if those who moved her didn't
want a home; they wanted a flipper, an investment to turn over.  But not a home.
This is way of thinking has altered in a negative way the fabric of our
community.

We need people to move hear because they want to make it their home; not a "in
the near future flipper".  We need a community.  We need a soul.
9:16 pm est 

Re: Austinm Knight Recall

Is this correct, or is it a typo - that Currier will be submitting to
the Town. Clerk the necessary number of recall signatures a week earlier than
originally planned?  Hard to believe!
9:12 pm est 

Austin Knight

I can see why Austin declared a Sharon Lynn Day in Provincetown - a
source of profound hilarity for many in town. He was in the search committee
that recommended her.   Oh, Austin, dear.  You never fail to amuse us.
9:10 pm est 

Revenue Creation

Taxing Second Home Owners

I'd like to offer a proposal.
We live in a community that is greatly suffering due to an imbalance of second
home owners.
If we could raise some significant funds that we controlled and that did not get
us into more debt, we should explore this avenue.
We should significantly raise the residential tax rate with an override at town
meeting. We should make an exemption for year round residential owners so that
their taxes
do not go up. With 70% second home ownership this could bring in some
significant funds with which to build or buy community housing.
In order to do this override we are obliged to have a good reason and dedicate
the funds to this, namely community housing.  The town finance director has told
me
this is possible. It would have the following benefits:
We would control these funds with no strings attached
The State already allows this
We would get the money pretty fast.
For second home owners that are wealthy or very well off, our tax rate is most
likely
already low compared to where their first homes are.
For people who are not wealthy but could maybe afford a condo here, it will slow
them down if they have to consider a larger tax burden.
This tax has the possibility of slowing down condo conversion, one of the main
drivers of the imbalance in housing.
I can't think of another pot of money that we could control, get pretty fast and
not get us into debt.
In the first year alone, having these funds means we could set up a system of
buying homes and renting them or many other visions that came up at the housing
summit.
This is not class warfare.  This is a reasonable, sensible, modest tool that
many communities have used.
If you attended the housing summit, then you know how hard it will be to find
the money to save the soul of this community.

Catherine Russo
3:29 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Research Committee

Okay. So you served in previous TM search committees.  Kudos!

Why is it so important that you, and only you, occupy that chair again this time
around?
2:58 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

"Were all the members of the last committee biased and incompetent?
Did they all make the same errors of judgement?  Of course not.  I really don't
know all the names, but unless you have specific info on why a person should be
excluded, then you are not really thinking well."



Being on a past Town Manager's Search Committee doesn't mean you're entiltled to
a life appointment.

Come on!  Let's give other members of the community a crack at it.  I promise
you they'll do no worse than previous search Committee members.
2:57 pm est 

Golden Years Landlords

Funny, we wake up one day and look at ourselves and we are in our Golden years.
Yes and we are landlords and one of our tenants is so beyond perfect that we
hadn't raised the rent in 13 years!(we raised it when we went on the sewere
system).

Unfortunately, after reading in the banner that the housing summits wants to
come down hard on condo conversions--we have decided to make our property
condos--starting last week.

Life will change for our tenants because we can't risk keeping this a
multi-family property and have the rental summit renters gang up on us at town
meeting and pass draconian laws that will hamper the sale of our house incase of
an emergency.

No one will buy a 3 famly house without being able to condo it. They won't be
able to raise the rent high enough to have it pay bills.

What a sham that this has to happen..and our lawyer said that it has happened in
the past when word got out about a moratorium.

We were also told that if the District Attorney's office oks the changes in the
law, then it is retroactive to the day that it was printed in the banner. Thus
Time is of the essence.
2:55 pm est 

2006 Town Manager Search Committee
You be the judge whether the committee was biased:

EXECUTIVE SEARCH CONSULTANT - TOWN MANAGER
The purpose of this meeting is to review and select candidates from the
applications submitted for the Town Manager Executive Search Committee.
Open discussion ensued and the following motions were made.
MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to appoint Susan Buerkel as a
member of the Town Manager Executive Search Committee.
Motion by: Sarah Peake Seconded by: Cheryl Andrews
Yea 4 Nay 0 Abstain 1 (David Nicolau )
MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to appoint Irene Rabinowitz as a
member of the Town Manager Executive Search Committee.
Motion by: Michele Couture Seconded by: Cheryl Andrews Yea 5 Nay 0
MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to appoint Marilyn Downey as a
member of the Town
Manager Executive Search Committee.
Motion by: David Nicolau Seconded by: Richard Olson Yea 5 Nay 0
MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to appoint Hunter OHanian as a
member of the Town
Manager Executive Search Committee.
Motion by: Michele Couture Seconded by: Richard Olson
---- Motion Withdrawn ---
MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to appoint Mary-Jo Avellar as a
member of the Town Manager Executive Search Committee.
Motion by: Sarah Peake Seconded by: Michele Couture Yea 4 Nay 1 (David Nicolau)
MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to appoint Michael Fernandes as a
member of the Town Manager Executive Search Committee.
Motion by: Richard Olson Seconded by: Sarah Peake Yea 5 Nay 0 MOTION: Move that
the Board of Selectmen vote to appoint Austin Knight as a member of the Town
Manager Executive Search Committee.
Motion by: David Nicolau Seconded by: Sarah Peake Yea 5 Nay 0
MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to appoint Debbie Meadows as a
member of the Town
Manager Executive Search Committee.
Motion by: Sarah Peake Seconded by: David Nicolau
Yea 3 Nay 2 (Cheryl Andrews / Richard Olson)
MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to appoint Todd Wagar as a member
of the Town Manager Executive Search Committee.
Motion by: Michele Couture --- Motion Withdrawn ---
MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to appoint Elaine Anderson as a
member of the Town
Manager Executive Search Committee.
Motion by: Michele Couture Seconded by: Richard Olson Yea 5 Nay 0
MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to appoint Stephen Melamed as a
member of the Town
Manager Executive Search Committee.
Motion by: David Nicolau --- Motion Withdrawn ---
MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to appoint Hunter OHanian as a
member of the Town Manager Executive Search Committee.
Motion by: Sarah Peake Seconded by: Richard Olson Yea 5 Nay 0
MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to appoint Rachel White as a
member of the Town
Manager Executive Search Committee.
Motion by: Cheryl Andrews Seconded by: Sarah Peake
- Sarah Peake withdrew her Second -
MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to appoint Rachel White as a
member of the Town Manager Executive Search Committee.
Motion by: Cheryl Andrews Seconded by: Richard Olson
Yea 2 Nay 3 (Sarah Peake / Michele Couture /David Nicolau )
- Motion Does Not Pass -
MOTION: Move that the Board of Selectmen vote to complete selection of the Town
Manager Executive Search Committee as presented above.
Motion by: Sarah Peake Seconded by: Michele Couture Yea 5 Nay 0
Next meeting will be October 23, 2006 @ 4 PM to discuss Town Manager Profile and
2:52 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

Were all the members of the last committee biased and incompetent? 
Did they all make the same errors of judgement?  Of course not.  I really don't
know all the names, but unless you have specific info on why a person should be
excluded, then you are not really thinking well.  Letting conspiracy theories
run your life and color your judgement is pretty shallow.  As was said earlier
there is a search consultant and the final decision is made by legally elected
people, the BOS.  The search committee will have a say in the selection, and
based on their rationale may or may not be very influential. but they do NOT
choose the next TM.
11:53 am est 

News Flash - Wilmington DE

Nationwide search looks to replace Chief of Police
What's Jeff doing beside suing the Town?
11:50 am est 

Re: Town Manager Search Committee

I too Agree: New Members of the Search Committee

No one who was part of the old Search Committee should be placed on this one.
They already did their damage and obviously were unable to select the best
candidate in the pool.

In fact, they selected the worse. Remember Sharon at the interviews? she was terrible,
mumbling her answers, her head down and sour looking. But she had MaGuire and
many on the committee committed to vote for her even before she was interviewed.
and also, Sarah Peake remained as a selectman so she could undermine the
candidate from Florida--call him a racist and had newspaper articles to "prove"
her point and then to throw lobs to Sharon and then vote to hire her.

It was a tangled mess and only after did Sarah Peake file with the town of her past
relationship with Sharon and that Sharon had contributed to  her representative
campaign and that Sharon had attended fund raisers for her at Ann MaGuire's
house.

This is part of how we got Sharon as town manager. Not the best candidate
but the one with the best political power who trumped the really best
candidates.
10:13 am est 

Town Manager Search Committee

I agree with a prior poster - let's get community members that are
other than those that served the last time.  Maybe be we'll do a better job in
selecting this time, because it seems we ended up with a lemon / an very
expensive lemon.

Also, try to get a good balance in terms of backgrounds.  Not more than 1 of
any.  That way, we 'll get as many diverse perspectives as possible.
9:29 am est 

Town Manager Search Committee

Can we think a little clearly about this search committee for the new
TM?  Why exclude people who served on the committee that was in place when
Sharon was hired?  Did they all want her?  Were they all to blame?  Why not have
second homeowners if they can contribute?  They pay taxes and many spend a great
deal of time in town.  Why not have renters who indirectly pay taxes and might
be able to contribute?  Why the xenophobia?  Will trying to do the best job
possible hurt us?  In the end of the process, there will be a search consultant
and the BOS makes the hiring decision, so stop with the worried stuff and look
for excellence.
9:28 am est 

Austin Knight Recall

If all moves according to plan-will Austin be put on ice before the
new town manager is selected? Its best  not to have his sticky fingers in the
process, regardless of how important he thinks of his sorry influence.
9:22 am est 

Thursday, January 23, 2014

Re: Jeff Jaran & Police Union

I agree about Koumanelis. What he did was text the exact same thing
he'd heard Jaran say about Donegan. Just like a parrot - it hears it over and
over until it learns it well enough to repeat it.
10:06 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall

This doesn't bode well for Austin - that close to 300 signatures have
been gathered so quickly.
9:59 pm est 

280 Votes for Recall is Fabulous

I think we really only need 290 as 10% of the voters. surely you want to have a
safety group of names. but this is just amazing. Great work to all and Especialy
Vincent and Barbara and Myra and Duane. You have done a yeoman's job. How proud
we are of you!
9:50 pm est 

Donegan & Yingling Are Not up For Election

We need new faces to follow in the May election--new, different, with fresh
faces and fresh ideas. We are at a great point in our community and we need to
go forward and not backwards.
9:49 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight - Recall Election

I suspect that there will be no problem getting the required minimum
number of signatures for the recall of Austin Knight.

I signed when 60 were required, and also did so last week. It was done with a
heavy heart. Like many others in this town, I voted for Austin. Like many, I
feel betrayed by him. The manner in which he has undertaken his role as a
leader, and Selectman has been wanting for a long time. How could he go on for
months and months and not post agenda items for the meetings of the Board of
Selectmen? And why? For whose benefit was this, Austin? Certainly, not for the
town. For whom then?

That old saying is so true: We get the government we deserve. We, the people of
Provincetown, deserve better. On election day, I will cast my third vote for the
removal of Austin Knight as one of our Selectmen. All along, he's made his
decisions. It's our turn in May to make ours.
9:47 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search

Someone said that the Chamber doesn't have representation on the new
search committee?  Are they folding?
9:28 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search

We need to ensure that not one person that was in the last search
committee for the Town Manager gets to sit this tine around.  It's time to let
others in the community have the opportunity to participate and give their
input.  Can we please do this?
9:27 pm est 

Re: Town Manager Search

Why would the PBG and not the Chamber be involved in the search for a new town
manager and why would the second homeowners be involved at all?? Also is there
an equivalent group of renters who will be on the committee??
9:24 pm est 

Re: 01/23/14 Banner Letter to Editor

What Duane said is true, even though you did not understand what he
said.  he did not say "sign the petition"  he said vote for the recall.  Fact
is, the process allows for two votes.  1)to vote to recall the person of
interest 2) to vote to reelect that person.  Now, this may seem unlikely to
some,but it is easily legal.  That's all he said.  He did not argue for or
against anything but state what was legally possible.
7:50 pm est 

Vincent Currier - Recall Signature Effort

!! UPDATE--UPDATE--UPDATE--UPDATE--UPDATE--UPDATE--UPDATE !!
________________________________________________________

I suppose this would be a good time for an update of the recall petition numbers.
As of noontime today, January 23rd, I have taken inventory of all the names collected that have petitions circulating.

As close as I can come, I have counted 280 names, give or take 7-8 names.

I will be asking for the petitions out to be collected so that we can turn them in to the Town Clerk for voter verification on Monday, January 27th. WE HAVE PLENTY OF PETITIONS TO RESTOCK THE COLLECTED ONES, SO JUST ASK.
.
This does not mean we will slow up in any way. We need at least 350 names to assure us of room for errors and problems with any names gathered.

Please look for our petition name gatherers at locations throughout town. I have received many at my apartment on Franklin Street. My phone number is 508-487-2163. Anytime after 10 a.m., and before 8 p.m.

We will be at Napi's on Monday, January 27 and Tuesday January 28th, from 12 to 2. Please come in and sign the petition.

Thank everyone of the 280 people who have taken the time to sign, and thank you to the amazing people who have been gathering names in the cold and snow and difficult conditions.

This is a wonderful example of Community caring for the operation of a fair and just government!

The deadline for turning in the required number of names for the recall is February 5th, 2014.
7:27 pm est 

Re: 01/23/14 Banner Letter to Editor

Duane Steele said

"You may vote to recall Selectman Austin Knight  and at the same time vote again
to re-elect him."


Are you serious?  Who is going to sign a recall petition, put the town and all
candidates through an election campaign just to turn around and vote the subject
of the recall back into office?  That doesn't seem like the actions of an
informed voter. What kind if person would do that?  They would be signing a
public document demanding a recall and then by secret ballot voting against
themselves.  I guess they could try to play both sides. See I signed your
petition but then tell Austin I really voted for you on the secret ballot. Would
you believe that?
7:00 pm est 

01/23/14 Banner Letter to Editor

Breaking Down Recall Options

To the editor: By signing a recall petition now circulating you will give yourself and your fellow voters the following choices at the polls: You may vote to recall Selectman Austin Knight — and at the same time vote again to re-elect him.

You may recall him — and vote for another candidate to replace him.

You may vote not to recall him and he will remain in office.

The town clerk has certified 62 notarized signatures for a recall petition, 12 more than required. Now, 292 signatures, 10 percent of the electorate, which do not have to be notarized, are needed by Feb. 5 to institute a recall election.

During the campaign you will hear a spirited debate about the future of Provincetown and have a chance, if you wish, to bring new blood into office and change the direction of the board of selectmen. Remember, it is you, the people of Provincetown, and you alone, who will determine Provincetown’s outlook as we rebuild the town’s leadership and put an end to the nonsense.

Duane A. Steele
6:26 pm est 

Snow Ban Notification

Why don't we get follow calls to CODE RED when parking bans etc are
lifted?
5:55 pm est 

Re: Jeff Jaran & Austin Knight

Shouldn't the Selectman have said:  "It's  improper and illegal for me
to discuss my campaign with you, a town employee?"



Because it is not improper or illegal.  Town employees may be involved in
political activity, they are prohibited from being involved in political
activity while on town property and while on the job.
5:43 pm est 

Town Manager Search

Why is the PBG to have a representative on the Town Manager's search
committee, and not the town's Chamber of Commerce?
5:41 pm est 

Oops, New Not Nude - Live and Learn

New Beach???  Whenever I heard this name for Herring Cove I bought
they were saying "Nude Beach".
5:36 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall

Say good night Austin- just my opinion.
5:33 pm est 

Consistency and Constancy Have Paid Off

I find it so ironic how all those opposed to the majority of posts on
this site find that we are a small insignificant group yet majority have come to
fruition. I say wait and see. Take a look back at the posts starting in early
April through the current posts. A pattern has emerged  . This site has been
right on!! My call. It will continue to be right on!

Great work Clarence. History will be on your side. NOT on Sharons, Jaran's,
Candice's, Harriet's, Anne's, nor Braun's. Just my humble opinion. Oh . And
a big shout out to Tom Donegan who was BRAVE enough to take this all on,
Erik Yingling, Maria Lopez ,Stephen Mindich and Gail Strickland. 

The last 3 named could care less about Sharon Nor Jaran's intimidation. We ALL
owe them a BIG THANKYOU!!!
5:31 pm est 

Re: Jeff Jaran & Police Union

"So, ironically, the strongest supportive evidence for the union's
allegations about what Jaran said to his staff regarding Donegan, is the
textgate sergeant."



SO RIGHT!!  Plain and simple
5:25 pm est 

Re: Recall Signature Effort

The answer to the question about how many signatures we need on the
recall effort.

We need 300 signatures. The 300 signatures are due to be delivered to the Town
Clerk on or before February 5th. We plan to have them all in by February 3rd, or
before, to make sure there are no problems with the signatures.
I will issue a report within the next couple of days with the numbers we have
attained. The recall petition is doing very well. More new people are signing
daily. Thank you all for your help.
Vince Currier
7:32 am est 

Sense of Place

"You can call it Herring Cove but to those of us lucky enough to have
spent our entire lives here this will always be "New Beach".



Saw this post on Ptown photography page and just have to say,  New Beach?  How
generic a name.  Herring Cove is a much more romantic name and gives you a sense
of place!
11:03 pm est 

Wednesday, January 22, 2014

Jeff Jaran & Austin Knight

Why in the world would a Selectman and Police Chief discuss the
Selectman's campaign and candidacy, including the Chief's commitment to campaign
for such Selectman?

Shouldn't the Selectman have said:  "It's improper and illegal for me to discuss
my campaign with you, a town employee?"
10:59 pm est 

Jeff Jaran & Police Union

The most intriguing part of the Jaran fiasco was that the sergeant who
texted about Donegan used the exact same description the union claims Jaran
used.  So, ironically, the strongest supportive evidence for the union's
allegations about what Jaran said to his staff regarding Donegan, is the
textgate sergeant.
10:57 pm est 

Re: Read the Marcum Report: Jeff Jaran Had Two Mantras

Re: "It was the two Provincetown police unions that stated in their
letter that JJ had said to his staff, I believe more than once, that they should
vote for AK, and not TD and RR."



OK, so lets just say theoretically, that the entire police force was so afraid
of Jaran, just shaking in their boots and afraid of retaliation, that they
decided to vote as he supposedly instructed, even though he couldn't possibly
ever know how each individual officer voted. Let's just say that is what
happened. Are you implying that the votes of 30 or so officers swayed the entire
election in favor of Knight and robbed Richter of his victory?

Dream on.
10:03 pm est 

Re: I Hope We Get New Faces For Selectmen

"We need change. We need new and different people. I hope that is what
we get."




And what about Tom Donegan and Yingling? Aren't they change?
9:58 pm est 

Re: Read the Marcum Report: Jeff Jaran Had Two Mantras

This is Pure Bull

There has been a campaign against Raphael Richter and I believe you are part of
it. It has nothing to do with intelligent decision, with objective
presentations. It is pure bull. and you can continue to repeat in your head Jeff
Jaran's mantra. That is what I see. You are so naïve and so wrong. You are part
of what is a major problem with this town.
8:34 pm est 

Recall Election Signatures

Don't You Just but Want to Know!

Have you signed? Good if you did. If you didn't, well, you will see where it all
goes.
8:31 pm est 

Police Response to the Marcum Report

Then Read the Police Response to the Marcum Report

They viewed that it did not represent the truth. The police union knew that
Jaran threatened them and that Jaran purposefully brought the Austin Knight
Signs in the department. the union also and emphatically stated that jeff Jaran
kept stating that Tm Donegan was a Police Hater and Richter was even worse.

Read on. And you would read a greater truth than you accept. sorry, kid, but the
report tells all of us much more than your want to believe. so be it, kid.
8:29 pm est 

Re: Read the Marcum Report: Jeff Jaran Had Two Mantras

And What is Your Experience when Matched to Richter's?

He has run a quite successful business and has much experience in business. Tell
me what this McChesney guy ever did? Has anyone asked about his credentials?
Richter is not without much experience and I would vote for him immediately if
he was on the ballot.
8:21 pm est 

Re: Read the Marcum Report: Jeff Jaran Had Two Mantras

"I read the published report and I fail to see any evidence..."



It was the two Provincetown police unions that stated in their letter that JJ
had said to his staff, I believe more than once, that they should vote for AK,
and not TD and RR, and he gave his reasons in each of these occasions.  The
letter from the two local police unions was issued in response to the Marcum
Report.  I don't know if that letter became an addendum to the Marcum Report.

However, Koumanelis texting words about TD, match, ad verbatim, JJ's
description.
7:54 pm est 

Re: Read the Marcum Report: Jeff Jaran Had Two Mantras

"One that tom Donegan was a police hater and the other against Raphael Richter."


I read the published report and I fail to see any evidence to support the above
statement.  Tom Donegan's name appears exactly three times in the report:

First instance  "Newly elected Selectman Thomas Donegan hosted his party at the
Squealing Pig."

Second instance (in a timeline of events) "9:00  9:30 PM
TOM DONEGAN AND ERIK YINGLING GO TO THE LOBSTER POT."

Third instance "It was reported that one Selectman Tom Donegan made a formal
complaint to the State Ethics Commission on or about July 9, 2013."

That's all it says about Tom Donegan.  Nothing more, nothing less.


Richter's name doesn't appear at all in the Report.  So where exactly from the
report did you derive the two mantras you atribute to Jaran???  Are you just
making up stuff and throwing it at the wall to see if it will stick?  That's
certainly easy to do on an anonymous message board. I'd really like to know your
motive.  Your credibility is on the line here.

In closing, it seems to me you should take your own advice and reread the Marcum
Report.  It would appear that haven't ever read the report yourself.
2:59 pm est 

Re: Read the Marcum Report: Jeff Jaran Had Two Mantras

"Raphael Richter is energetic and intelligent. When he ran, he was a
threat to Jeff Jaran and to Austin Knight. without all the background dealings,
Richter would have won."



You are entitled to your opinion. Everyone is. I've lived in this town for many
years and I didn't vote for Richter. My reason for this had nothing to do with
Jeff Jaran, it had to do with Richter's lack or experience and character. I live
here. I know people. I know this town. I make informed decisions. My vote isn't
swayed by popular opinion (unlike many in this town.)
1:57 pm est 

Re: "Budget Approval"

"Reading  one post that mentions Steve Roderick suggesting the budget
be taken away from town meeting and in the hands of the Board of Slectman."


He was only referring to taking only PTV's budget Way from Town Meeting having
to approve it, not the entire town's budget.  Still, I believe it's something
that needs to be rectified.  Town Meeting should have a say.  For the BOS to be
the only entity to approve the budget for PTV is the ultimate politicizing.
Let's move it back to the town residents!
1:44 pm est 

I Hope We Get New Faces For Selectmen

We need change. We need new and different people. I hope that is what we get. We
need a fresh start and that requires newness and importantly new ideas and
different perspectives.
1:42 pm est 

Read the Marcum Report: Jeff Jaran Had Two Mantras

One that tom Donegan was a police hater and the other against Raphael Richter.
Some continue to absorb the evil that Jaran was perpetuating. they continue the
mantras as misleading and false as they are.

Raphael Richter is energetic and intelligent. When he ran, he was a threat to
Jeff Jaran and to Austin Knight. without all the background dealings, Richter
would have won.
1:40 pm est 

"Budget Approval"

Reading  one post that mentions Steve Roderick suggesting the budget be taken
away from town meeting and in the hands of the Board of Slectman.  Are people
nuts! If any one group were to handle and approve budgets it should be with the
Finance Committee. The selectmen play too many games. seems like we have a great
finance committee at the present time and it would make more sence to have them
as the watchdogs and approvers and not the selectmen.
8:37 am est 

Re: Recall Signature Effort

How many more signatures are needed for the recall to happen?
8:33 am est 

Re: Demand a Review of Tax Assessments
 
"And we also need a citizens' oversight group. To monitor the analysis
andreport.  We no longer trust the BOS.  They serve at the pleasure of those who
have benefited from the under assessments."




Gee, ever heard of a group called the Board of Assessors?  It's a group of
citizens who volunteer to oversee the entire process of assessments.
8:31 am est 

Puppeteer vs Richter

Re: 'The "Many" you refer to are the Puppeteer and minions.  The
Puppeteer, as usual, was there that evening in the background, ensuring that the
minions were performing as commanded.'



I don't understand these paranoid riddles you are speaking in, but I know plenty
of people who did not and will not vote for Richter for a variety of reasons,
none of which have anything to do with puppetry.
8:27 am est 

Re: Demand a Review of Tax Assessments

The board of assessors oversee assessments not the Board of Selectmen. 
Town boards exist for the benefit of the citizens.  How many review boards are
you going to have?  You can't get people to serve on town boards and now you
want them to serve on review boards.  Get a grip!
12:04 am est 

PTV

Here is the link to government programming at PTV - if you want to
find Board of Selectmen try clicking on Board of Selectmen

http://provincetowntv.org/govt/
12:02 am est 

Re: Demand a Review of Tax Assessments

"We no longer trust the BOS.  They serve at the pleasure of those who
have benefited from the under assessments."



Who changed the law? I thought that the BOS was elected by the voters in town. 
this site gets stranger and stranger. Now I can't vote for selectman because
only those who control them in some evil scheme can vote.  Oh my gosh.   Russia? 
Serbia?  Ukraine? Cuba? Oz? Fantasyworld?  teaparty town?
11:57 pm est 

Re: Second Homeowners

You lived in Paris.  very nice.  You didn't elect the mayor.  ok.  But
what has that got to do with owning property in PT and paying taxes here?
Taxation without representation is a moral issue not the law, but there is a lot
of sense to it.  So, in the opinion of some, taxpayers should actually move to
town in order to express an opinion on how their tax money should be spent. 
perfect sense to me. How about if my friends suddenly said, " you don't want me
only my money.  well you can only have my money if you have me.  See ya later
PT.  Collapse.
11:53 pm est 

Re: Raphael Richter

Just post the comments made by RR at the "meet the candidates night".
Is this the way we go?
11:52 pm est 

Re: Second Homeowners

"they need to make Provincetown their permanent residence.  If they're
THAT interested, I don't see why this should be a difficult choice."


For many 2nd home owners it isn't a "choice". With a job in another state (say
RI, CT, NH, NY) that keeps them there 5 days per week on average, the laws say
that is their legal residence.
11:49 pm est 

Re: Housing Summit

"You will weep when you find out how many landlords are going to turn their
property into condos..you will just weep."



No, I'll see a sure sign of the next market crash, which based on what happened
in '08 is due in the next year or two. Go ahead, condoize like so many of your
greedy ilk did in South Beach and Fort Lauderdale. I won't weep, I'll laugh as I
send out invites to P'town's first squatter's ball. Is your place big enough to
host?
11:47 pm est 

Tuesday, January 21, 2014

Something's Just Not Right

the assessments continue to show patterns that do not make sense. It is not all
of us in this together but some who get little increases, others whose
assessments remain the same and then some others who find huge increases in
their assessment. and all in the same year. when all properties are affected by
the same economic forces and the same market forces.

Explain this please. I surely can't.
6:43 pm est 

Hearing People Complain Who are Renters

Yikes! Who would want to rent to some of these people? They know the ins and
outs of every landlord-tenant law. Have they been such problem tenants that they
know these laws?
6:41 pm est 

Demand a Review of Tax Assessments

We need to direct the Selectman, at the next Town Meeting to analyze 
the tax assessment data to ensure that assessments have been done equitably. 
And we also need a citizens' oversight group. To monitor the analysis and
report.  We no longer trust the BOS.  They serve at the pleasure of those who
have benefited from the under assessments.
6:36 pm est 

Re: I Too Like Paul Gavin Very Much

"I Too Like Paul Gavin Very Much but I do believe there have been
forces altering key properties and their assessments."



Well, some of those "forces" are already gone, and more will definitely be gone,
so we can have, once and for all, our local government run ethically and
competently, for the benefit of all, and not just the select few.
6:32 pm est 

Recall Count?

What 's the Kung [count]on the signatures, after the first 2 days of
signatures' collections?
6:28 pm est 

Second Homeowners

I think second homeowners have lots to contribute, but on an ad hoc
basis.  For 3 years, I had an apartment in Paris, and yet I never expected to be
allowed to play a role in choosing the Paris mayor, etc., even though I have a
EU passport.  Second homeowners shouldn't sit on any personnel interviews, or
sit on any voting group, whether elected or voluntary.  For that to happen, they
need to make Provincetown their permanent residence.  If they're THAT
interested, I don't see why this should be a difficult choice.
6:26 pm est 

Real Piggish Behavior

To preclude our town from getting in tax revenues what it's entitled to, because
the usual suspects want to line their pockets with even more money.  Is it ever
enough? 

And yet, I look at some of you, and you look truly miserable.  Forget about putting
more in the bank, and improve the quality of your lives and health.
6:25 pm est 

PTV

"The problem with counting on PTV for coverage of various town
meetings is that the volume is not broadcast uniformly. The fact people speak
with various modulations only excacerbates the problem. However, technology
should be able to overcome this, and hopefully PTV will catch up
technologicaly."




They recently hired one additional staff person, and they're producing less. 
How come?  Why aren't they posting online the meetings' videos?

This need to be taken to Town Meeting, and what Steve Roderick said, that the
reason that he was recommending that the budget approval be taken away from Town
Meeting, and transferred to the BOS because of politics, is beyond the pale. 
Time to have PTV serve the people of Provincetown, not the agenda of those few
we all know about.
6:21 pm est 

Puppeteer vs Richter

"Many do not agree with Raphael Richter"s position on the town"s
obligation to respect laws and regulations of the state and Fed. govs. as stated
at the meet the candidates night last year."



The "Many" you refer to are the Puppeteer and minions.  The Puppeteer, as usual,
was there that evening in the background, ensuring that the minions were
performing as commanded.
6:18 pm est 

PTV - Poor Audio

"However, technology should be able to overcome this, and hopefully
PTV will catch up technologically."


That, or split the generous $60,000 executive director's salary and hire a
technical director. Heck, you could split that salary four ways and give other
talented townsfolk a decent living working for PTV.                 could apply.
6:16 pm est 

The Mountains are High the Rivers Wide and the Emperor is Far Away

You find it hilarious that Mr. Richter believes our town has leeway in
interpreting state laws and regulations? I find it all pathetic that anyone
would overlook Mr. Richter's comments after going through the Austin Knight
debacle. We are all doomed!
6:14 pm est 

Re: Raphael Richter

After you explain what AK and his problems have to do with a statement
that some people have a problem with RR. I'll understand.  Because now it seems
like a classic non-sequitur.  Is RR another of the supposed aliases that AK
uses?  Since some have a problem with one, it is ok to have a problem with the
other?  Or, since some have a problem with one, there should be no problem with
the other.  Any way you slice it, it's still baloney.
6:08 pm est 

Recall Petition

We want to sign the petition.  Who do we contact  or do we go to town hall to do
this. Thanks.
6:06 pm est 

Re: Housing Summit

You folks are falling all over each other trying to find every single way to
make the taxpayers pay and pay and pay for your affordable housing.

You threaten to take away landlords rights and to regulate their ownership of
their property.

You will weep when you find out how many landlords are going to turn their
property into condos..you will just weep.

You put the fear of property restrictions in people a few years ago and they
went turned their property into condos..it will happen again so swiftly that you
won't know what hit you!

And it is all due to the housing summit and how you want to gear everything
towards buying land and building affordable housing. Well, taxpayers live and
struggle here too--but it is all about you! and ONLY you it seems.
6:04 pm est 

Re: Second Homeowners

"God forbid that those second homeowners have to take a day off from
their first home on a Thursday or a Monday."



God forbid that thinking should be required for living in PT or else another
town to make room for another village idiot.  So all 2nd home owners live close
enough to easily get to town for a Monday or Tuesday?  They whined eh? Not asked
for what many might consider to be reasonable considering how much they pay in
taxes without getting much in services.    So Sharon caved, eh?  No chance that
she did what was right and reasonable, is there?

I know lots of 2nf home owners that contribute lots to PT, like the soup
kitchen.  Like the Aids support group.  Like the PAAM.  They spend tons of money
in town and I can't imagine how this is a problem to you and your ilk.  What do
you want from them?  Take their money and tell them to stay away.  Just mail it
in.  Don't go to the clubs.  Don't go to the restaurants.  Stay out of the
stores.  It is your attitude that is so destructive.  We can all play in the
sand box without jealousy and fighting.  Can you mention a single thing that 2nd
home owners do, or don't do, that harms you?
5:45 pm est 

Re: I Too Like Paul Gavin Very Much

Re: Paul Gavin - "Yes, there are others in the background creating more
difficulties and more injustices than we will ever know."


Again, you have no idea how assessed values are set.  Paul is a terrific
employee who would walk out the door before he allowed anyone to tell him to
raise or lower an assessed value as a personal favor or punishment to anyone. 
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

Who do you think told him, former Town Manager Lynn, his boss Dan Hoort?  The
Selectmen?

It doesn't happen.  Learn the facts before you speak.
5:32 pm est 

Town Manager Search

Are the Selectmen going to hire the same search consultants that gave
us Sharon Lynn?  Say it ain't so!!!!!!
5:30 pm est 

Re: Second Homeowners - Town Manager Search

"I was told that their taxes are well over half of the total."


Following that logic, let's grab a handful of tourists and put them in the
Search Committee also, since the money they spend here is a considerable source
of income for the town.  Also, let's include some if the women that come to
Provincetown for their bridal showers.
5:27 pm est 

Re: Raphael Richter

Many do not agree with Raphael Richter"s position on the town"s obligation to
respect laws and regulations of the state and Fed. govs. as stated at the meet
the candidates night last year.

What does this statement mean?? Did he state that at the meeting or are you
speaking of something else? Unlike AK, I don't know of any laws or bylaws
Richter has broken.
5:25 pm est 

It Does Help to Know the Past and Have a Sense of History

Too many think they know what is going on and yet hardly look back to know the
roots of our issues. Having a sense of town history would help. In fact, it is
really a necessity.

You didn't have to be here but you should dam well know what was going on before
you got here. that is the least of what we expect of thinking voters. No one
ever said that thinking and analysis was easy. but if you don't do it, then
silence would prove better.
5:23 pm est 

Sharon Did Not Cave in on Friday's

She is the one who gave town employees a four day work week when we went to the
polls and voted against a %3 raise for town employees. Instead of honoring this
voter decision, she then created a four day work week so that town employees
would still get what they asked for. It was a disaster and should not have been
allowed since we voted against it.
Then we had a mess at town hall with four days on and three days off and it was
impossible to conduct the business of the town.

No, she did not cave in. She created this mess and tried to pick up the pieces.

It is still wrong and still against our wishes. It should be a five day work
week with regular hours. another problem Sharon Lynn created and we are left
with.
5:20 pm est 

Re: Second Homeowners

Why shouldn't the 2nd home owners have some level of say in town
government.  I was told that their taxes are well over half of the total.  Also,
there is a possible chance that they may have something to offer and maybe they
have people who have some experience in searches for executives.  Let's take
advantage of every resource available.  If someone has a GOOD reason to not
avail ourselves of free help, let's hear it.
12:00 pm est 

Re: Raphael Richter

"Many do not agree with Raphael Richter"s position on the town"s
obligation to respect laws and regulations of the state and Fed. govs. as stated
at the meet the candidates night last year."


The above statement us hilarious when we consider what we all know - that
Austin's doesn't respect us, the voters, our Town employees, or the laws of the
Commonwealth of Massachusetts.
11:38 am est 

Second Homeowners

Why not have the various municipal employees' unions represented in
the Search Committe?  And the School Committee?  And the Marina people?
But second home owners????

I remember all they had to do is whine to Sharon that they couldn't do town
business because Town Hall was closed all day on Fridays, and voila!  Sharon,
who we now know what and who she considered important, caved in, and now Town
Hall has to be opened on Fruday mornings.

God forbid that those second homeowners have to take a day off from their first
home on a Thursday or a Monday.
11:36 am est 

I Too Like Paul Gavin Very Much

but I do believe there have been forces altering key properties and their
assessments. He has been placed in a difficult position for many years. He is
sweet and good. Yes, there are others in the background creating more
difficulties and more injustices than we will ever know.
11:30 am est 

Re: Looking for Patterns Reveal Inconsistencies

Ok, so you did some research on patterns in the assessments in PT. 
And, you seem to have found what may be abuse (illegal activity).  Now you have
some choices. 1) You can not tell anyone about this and nothing will change (and
many won't believe that you have any info)2) You can tell the press and post it
here 3) you can go to the police and attorney general.  A good CONCERNED CITIZEN
will choose #3 in order to correct the problem and punish the evil doers.

Why do I have a little feeling that you'll  take option 1?
11:21 am est 

Raphael Richter

Many do not agree with Raphael Richter"s position on the town"s
obligation to respect laws and regulations of the state and Fed. govs. as stated
at the meet the candidates night last year.
11:15 am est 

Thanks Tom

Tom Donegan weatherman! Appreciate the weather update.
11:13 am est 

PTV

The problem with counting on PTV for coverage of various town meetings is that
the volume is not broadcast uniformly. The fact people speak with various
modulations only excacerbates the problem. However, technology should be able to
overcome this, and hopefully PTV will catch up technologicaly.
11:11 am est 

The Fault is Not in the Stars it is in Our BOS

"Stop allowing every project to go through. Privatize [hidden ballot]
the voting at town meeting so people can vote with their heads, not under
pressure from neighbors."



Yes! And elect a BOS that isn't afraid to gather information and lead. The past
decade the BOS have called in consultants to determine whether or not to put up
a street sign. Most of the consulting firms are off Cape and spend more then
half of the consulting budget coming up to speed on how Provincetown functions.
Most of the suggestions and solutions are intentionally wishy washy so they
don't make a mistake. And then there's another $345,000 down the drain. Aren't
there heads of agencies in town with enough intelligence to help the BOS with
direction?

Elect honorable people. People who are intelligent and don't have hidden agendas
that benefit themselves.  Be accountable and have faith in those you elect.
10:57 am est 

Town Assessor

Paul Gavin- I believe Paul to be a good man. However, I also believe
he could have been intimitaded by the previous town manager. I do know of
instances in where he was put on the line as to pressure from russell braun etc.
Yes i have factual basis for this post. There was one instance in which a
property mysteriously changed from a two family to a ONE Family because that is
the way the buyer wanted it to appraise out.  Paul is a fair man but he has been
intimitated by town employees. NAMELY, SHARON AND RUSSELL BRAUN. I DO HAVE THE
ADDRESS OF THE PROPERTY I ALLUDE TO AND CAN SUPPLY IT. IT WAS ALL RUSSELL
BRAUN'S DOING. Paul was pushed into a corner. I can only hope and pray we never
go back to that form of leadership. The search committee needs to be vigilent as
to the qualities we expect of our NEW TOWN MANAGER>I also know of formeer town
employees who have EXTENSIVE knowledge of wrongdoing by Sharon and Russell. My
call. Russell's days are numbered and he knows i!
t. But word to the wise Russell. Be very careful whose toes you choose to step
on now.  I wish you nothing but what you have coming to you.  Yes insider with a
whole lot of info.
10:55 am est 

Re: What Was .....is Not What is

"This has to be the most intelligent statement I've ever read on this
blog. I mean, it's common sense. Voting should be private. Why our town continues to
resist this simple modification to the voting process is beyond me. It would
certainly make life easier for many and would probably increase voter turnout."


Cannot agree more.
10:51 am est 

Town Manager Search Committee

Why is the PBG and the Second-Home Group Getting a representative on
the town Manager Search Committee?

Why not the Chamber of Commerce as well? Having three select seats added to the
committee seems rather strange.

Why? Why, indeed!
12:19 am est 

Looking for Patterns Reveal Inconsistencies

and that is what you'll see when you research the assessments. there are
patterns that reveal problems and inconsistencies. It's not a blaming of anyone
but a research on what is. Raising questions is good. If the inconsistencies can
be refuted or explained, that would be good. but some of these issues are so odd
that some mistakes or favorable assessments for some seem to have occurred.
12:15 am est 

Monday, January 20, 2014

Re: What Was .....is Not What is

Re: "Privatize [hidden ballot] the voting at town meeting so people can
vote with their heads, not under pressure from neighbors."


This has to be the most intelligent statement I've ever read on this blog. I
mean, it's common sense. Voting should be private. Why our town continues to
resist this simple modification to the voting process is beyond me. It would
certainly make life easier for many and would probably increase voter turnout.
10:30 pm est 

Tom Donegan - Weather Report

Another Storm:

A significant winter storm will affect southern New England late Tuesday into Wednesday morning with the greatest impact near the coast. Here are the details.


HEADLINES

* Blizzard Watch for coastal Plymouth county and the Cape and Islands
* Winter Storm Warning for eastern MA, all of RI and northeast CT
* Winter Storm Watch for Hartford county northward through portions of western and north central MA and Hillsborough county in NH.

SNOWFALL POTENTIAL

* High risk for 6-10 inches across RI and SE MA, especially Cape Cod & the Islands
* Lower risk for around a foot of snow for the Cape/Islands and portions of southeast coastal MA
* 4-8 inches across much of the interior west of the I95 corridor
* Lesser amounts across NW MA and SW NH

TIMING

* Onset - Light snow should overspread CT/RI & SE MA after 1 pm Tue reaching northern MA by evening. Minor to moderate impact for the evening commute with accum generally less than 2 inches.
* Heaviest snow - Tue night into early Wed morning. Snowfall rates of 1-2" per hour possible at the peak of the storm. Major impact for the Wednesday morning commute.
* Departing - snow ending by daybreak Wednesday in the west and during the morning elsewhere, except lingering on the Cape/Islands into the afternoon

WIND

* Northerly winds increasing Tuesday night
* Max wind gusts: 40 to 50 mph over the Cape/Islands and southeast coastal MA, 30-40 mph northeast CT, RI and eastern MA, and 20-30 mph further in the interior
* The strongest winds will be late Tuesday night into mid morning Wednesday.
* The strong wind will result in considerable blowing snow and poor visibility with blizzard conditions expected at times, especially across the Cape and Islands and SE coastal MA.

BITTER COLD

* Dangerously cold wind chills late Tuesday night and Wednesday morning dropping to -10 to -20 over the interior high terrain, and -5 to -10 elsewhere.
* Another round of dangerously cold wind chills late Wednesday night and Thursday morning. -15 to -25 over the interior high terrain and -5 to -15 in the coastal plain.
9:14 pm est 

What was .....is Not What is

Provincetown is far from a happy go lucky place. Each year, the easy
satisfaction townspeople used to feel erodes, like a mean high tide taking the
beach away.

This is a national phenomenon as well as a local reality, and those who have
just a slice of the dream: a home, fear that it will be taken from them. By the
'renters' by the 'commie housing summit' by Provincetown itself and increasing
taxes.

But what percentage of our taxes really go towards 'affordable housing'? Less
then 3 percent. The rest go towards the capital improvements the town needs for
the salaries of those that keep the town running. Stop allowing every project to
go through. Privatize [hidden ballot] the voting at town meeting so people can vote with their
heads, not under pressure from neighbors.

For those that came after the mid 90s...you'll never know the wonder that
Provincetown was. Sorry for that.
8:58 pm est 

Re: Conspiracy etc......... Property Value Assessments

A post that seems very reasonable states:  

"There was a third party sale of that condo in 2003, and again recently,
and the assessments in the intervening years were hundreds of thousands
of dollars below reasonable fair market, beyond a fair margin of error in my
opinion, and more than worthy of respectful questioning."


This may be totally consistent with fact, or maybe not.  Please note that the 
writer says 'in my opinion"  not 'I am  not an appraiser, so my opinion matter
not a whit more than yours."  This whole discussion is essentially without merit
since it is nothing more than people expressing their opinions without a bit of
fact to back those opinions.
8:19 pm est 

PTV

Again I ask....

Where are the Board of selectman,historic committee etc on
Ptv????  This is the only way 2 nd homeowners get to see these
People in action!!!!

Please!!!!!!!
8:15 pm est 

Re: Conspiracy etc......... Property Value Assessments Questions

Of course there is nothing wrong with asking questions unless of
course you don't really care about the answer but only intend to sow seeds of
doubt and conspiracy.  Asking questions of those who probably have the answers
is a good thing.  But asking general questions on a blog that is know to
question everything about town government and raises all kinds of issues of
unsubstantiated rumors of crime and corruption is something else again.  It is
like going on line to ask the weather forecast of a blog about local politics. 
Why?  go to the source, the weather stations. In this case ask the questions of
the assessor.  Unless you really don't want a factual answer that may interfere
with your opinions.
8:13 pm est 

Re: A Town of the Rich

I've long asked myself your question. I doubt you'll like my answer.

Too many people in town would be perfectly happy with a workforce comprising
summer immigrants used to abuse, and grateful for rock-bottom wages worth a lot
more in their home currencies. Where will they be housed? In a sharecropper's
patchwork of dormitories tucked here and there around town that you might never
guess were slums until you walked inside. Just enough such immigrants, usually
those with the best English, will stay on off-season to further obviate the need
for our kind until they  get wise to the game in a winter ghost town. No
worries: they can be replaced by fresh naïve, malleable immigrants. Sound
familiar? It's been our reality for at least a decade. And it's essential to
transforming Provincetown into a summer playground for the rich.

-The Welfare "Queen"
8:05 pm est 

Re: Conspiracy etc......... Property Value Assessments

Re: Someone in real estate should know that there are many, many
anecdotes

Anecdotes are onesie twosie exceptions to the norm.  When they reach the point
of numbering many, many occurrences they are no longer anecdotes and may in fact
indicate a pattern of behavior.
8:02 pm est 

Provincetown Banner -

Town manager search moves forward in Provincetown

By Ann Wood @awoodBanner
Provincetown Banner
Jan 20, 2014

The town could have a new manager by May, selectman chair Elaine Anderson said
Tuesday, though the process of hiring may stretch into August. A search
committee must first be formed, she said, which she hopes the selectmen can do
at its Jan. 27 meeting.
Each selectmen will choose two of the 15 candidates who have so far applied to
serve on the search committee, Anderson said. Three additional members will be
appointed  a member of the Provincetown Business Guild, a town government staff
member, and a member of the part-time residents association. The search
committee will review the role of town manager, discuss the profile that the
community would like to see, hold public forums and meet with the selectmen.
The selectmen, she added, likely will choose from three consultants, one of whom
probably will be Thomas Groux, of Groux & Associates, who aided in the towns
last headhunt. The search committee and consultant then will review
applications, winnow them down and recommend that the selectmen choose from
between three and five of the candidates.
Assistant Town Manager David Gardner has been acting in place of Sharon Lynn
since she resigned on Dec. 20 after nearly seven years as Provincetowns town
manager, for a job in Rehoboth Beach, Del.
Last week, the selectmen approved a budget of about $149,000 for a town manager
in fiscal year 2015, Anderson said. In 2012, Lynn earned about $141,000.
The town manager directs the activities of all town departments, commissions,
board and officers, except for those excluded by charter or law, the job
description states.
The proposed timeline of the town manager search says that by August a new town
manager starts and David [Gardner] goes on vacation.
Gardner said on Tuesday that he is not interested in applying for the permanent
position.
7:58 pm est 

Re: Conspiracy etc......... Property Value Assessments

"Oh, really! You Have a Problem with Asking questions?"



I think he/she  was pointing out that you appear to be too lazy to research
answers yourself.
7:54 pm est 

Dear Webmaster:

Please continue to post glowing recommendations for
Richter while censoring posts by those of us who've actually got his number.
Goodness knows, you wouldn't want to start playing fair and being transparent.
6:00 pm est 

Re: Conspiracy etc......... Property Value Assessments

"What appalls me is the number of posters who do nothing but ask questions,
expecting someone else to do the footwork for them."



Oh, really! You Have a Problem with Asking questions?

Perhaps a democracy is not what you want or need. Try a fascist state. No
questions asked; no answers given.

I love those who raise questions. they do not need to have an answer but they
ask questions and keep asking more and more. they are my kind of people and I'm
so glad they're in this town.
5:55 pm est 

On-going and Pending Lawsuits

I missed something.  Explain about "all the lawsuits".  Am I the only
one that missed a lot of lawsuits?  By whom?  Against whom?
5:49 pm est 

Re: Conspiracy etc......... Property Value Assessments

Someone in real estate should know that there are many, many anecdotes
about a lack of agreement between assessed value and market value, especially
when one is comparing high end properties that last changed hands before the
recession.  If you can, take every single property that sold for over $800,000
in the past year and show the assessed value and the date of previous sale. 
Like so many of the other conspiracy nuts that post here, you have nothing but
opinion based on nothing.  No anecdotes please.  Facts only.  How about one of
you actually speaking with the assessor and getting the truth.  We all know that
it will never happen because you can't continue this character assassination of
our town assessor unless you ignore the truth.  I would be very, very careful on
this site, because you and the webmaster are close to crossing the liable line. 
You are accusing the assessor of being a criminal without anything to back it
up. You have tried and convicted him w!
ithout a judge or jury.  No witnesses.  No facts.  No understanding of the
process.  And, you claim to be members of a group that you are "CONCERNED
CITIZENS".  YOU CERTAINLY ARE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT PROVINCETOWN AND DON'T SPEAK
FOR THE REAL CITIZENS. GOOD CITIZENS DO NOT ACCUSE THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS OF
CRIME AND CORRUPTION WITHOUT PROOF.
5:14 pm est 

Re: Conspiracy etc......... Property Value Assessments

Assessments

I have owned property for a dozen years. On several occasions, I discussed the
annual assessment change with Assessor Paul Gavin.  He was always prompt,
courteous, professional, and thorough in explaining the system and how it
applies to our property.

That system is reasonably straightforward as he explained it, although not an
exact science: your property, if not recently sold in an arms-length transaction
that gives a real fair market price, is intended to be assessed at a comparative
level to that of similar properties that have sold near the assessment date
(January 1st of the prior year), adjusted for any major overall changes in the
real estate market between the actual sale dates and that Jan 1 date.

Those comparisons aren't precise in most cases because most don't have exact
clones. So adjustments are made for an extra bath or less square feet, etc. Most
years the resulting changes aren't large unless the market has moved a lot, and
the assessor doesn't look in detail at every property every year unless asked to
do so by the owner.

There is some room to argue, again because it isn't precise, but Paul has been
open to fair comparisons in my experience and in the end while not agreeing
100%, I have come away concluding that our assessed value is a fair estimate of
what we could get if we sold near the assessment date. Maybe a bit high (5-10%)
in some years, when I tend to ask about it, and low in others when I admit I
don't ask, but fair in general. Paul doesn't hide behind arguments like the
system is complex and you don't understand it.

So I sympathize with those who defend him. I've heard rumors about "special
treatment" for years which I dismiss as small town talk lacking specifics.

But I do not agree with those who are blindly defending him in this specific
case.  There was a third party sale of that condo in 2003, and again recently,
and the assessments in the intervening years were hundreds of thousands of
dollars below reasonable fair market, beyond a fair margin of error in my
opinion, and more than worthy of respectful questioning.

Perhaps there is some obscure rule that applies in this case. The citizens
deserve to hear that if it's true. Or perhaps it was a simple error or oversight
- I am willing to give the Assessor the benefit of the doubt if that is what he
says. He's earned that. But he would be well advised to publicly explain the
situation. It is not healthy for many to think the game is rigged.

I do not know enough of the names of other town workers and/or where they own
property to make a meaningful review of the public records to look for other
possible cases, as one poster suggested. But unless someone does that I conclude
that this is the only such case and any claims to the contrary without fact
should be ignored. Some will call me naive, but the onus is on them to find
other cases, if they exist. The records are public.

Nevertheless, I think this one case is of significant enough import, given the
identity of the prior owner, to require public explanation; and that our elected
officials should pursue that if for no other reason than to provide needed trust
in our tax process, if such public explanation is not forthcoming from the
Assessor.

I'd like to sign my name, but I prefer not to be harassed by those on both sides
of this question.
5:01 pm est 

Myra Gold - Recall Petition
We are at Napis now. Please stop by from 12-2 pm today and sign the Austin Knight recall petition
12:07 pm est 

Re: "Facts From Housing Summit Cartel' hogwash


Said a learned contributor:

"They state this as a fact: Fast rate of condo conversions not yielding housing
stock (statistics report over 35,000 conversions in the last 7 years)....."


it's 350ish NOT 35,000......wtf? study up!


I don't get the posts I've read here about housing, and I dont think they really
reflect the majority of views of the people of Provincetown. I wonder sometimes
if the posters against people of all income levels being able to live in
Provincetown is just trying to stir the pot or is really serious...

Provincetown is known for being an open and caring place and that is something
of which to be very proud. The rate of development is out pacing the needs of
the residents. It's not like people are moving here to drain the system. The
population is going down dramatically and taking with it local consumers out of
the local economy. It is not just a problem here but in almost every tourist
town.It doesn't necessarily have to be addressed by taking something away from
someone else. If it were privately funded would you be against it? In fact it
consumes a small portion of your taxes...

I am particularly bothered by the jingoism and "the poor are trying to pick your
pocket" sentiments. They dont belong in Provincetown in my opinion are
un-evolved and lack a basic understanding of sociology and politics and taxation
and more....

It's shocking to me that it's considered radical to suggest that
housing is a human right...study up - is it really affordable housing that is
the reason for your taxes being higher? or are you a middleclass traitor
slapping around the lower income people to make yourself feel better?

Tell me why it isn't important to preserve community in Provincetown in particular
and come up with a plan. 

I mean - what gives?
12:03 pm est 

Re: Conspiracy etc.........

RE:  "OK, you are so much smarter than the rest of us.  So please
explain to us dummies how this assessment complied with the requirements of the law?"


What appalls me is the number of posters who do nothing but ask questions,
expecting someone else to do the footwork for them.  Instead of being lazy and
accusatory why don't you just ASK.  In most cases, a phone call or visit to Town
Hall is all it takes.  Instead, you want to stir up trouble where there is none. 
Get a life.
11:57 am est 

Oh, My!

When Rogosvsky shows up on your page beware because
candance nagle is sure to follow. Now is he part of another group. danger ahead!
11:55 am est 

Re: Conspiracy etc.........

"..how many other such low-ball special treatment cases are there". 

"More talk without thinking.  You are accusing the assessor of giving "special treatment"
to some.  That is a criminal offense.  Notify the Attorney General.  More to the
point, maybe you have no clue about special treatment but are so ignorant and
spiteful that you would accuse a good person of a crime just to try to justify
your narrow minded vindictive political viewpoint.  Talk to the assessor and get
the truth about how assessed values are assigned essentially automatically in
many cases and market value is rarely exactly consistent with assessed value.
How is it possible to assess at market value until a property is sold and the
market value is truly known.  Again, try to use your brain instead of your mouth."


IN JUNE OF 2003 SHE [Sharon Lynn] PAID 1,005,000 FOR IT. Take it from there - your analogy is
nothing but a crock of ----.   Oh and I quess all the lawsuits that resulted
from many posting here are nothing but  a result of narrow minded vindictive
people.  What took place was terrible and this is also terrible. It is unjust
and absolutely calculated. There is no way our town assessment should be off by
45% when they have a sale from 2003 to base it on. Oh are you going to tell me
real estate values are down 45% from 2003-  I KNOW NOT.  I AM IN REAL ESTATE IN
THIS TOWN. ASK ANY  APPRAISER. IN FACT, SALES HAVE PICKED UP DRAMATICALLY AND
SOME PROPERTIES ARE SELLING FOR HIGHER PRICES THAN THE PEEK OF 2005. DO YOUR
HOMEWORK HONEY.
11:53 am est 

Raphael is Smart, Intelligent and Articulate

He is a business person and knows the town. He speaks well and thinks well. I
would vote for him over many other possible candidates. He is doing great work
on the Finance committee and more than holding his own with very bright members.
11:49 am est 

Re: Conspiracy etc.........

"OK, you are so much smarter than the rest of us.  So please explain
to us dummies how this assessment complied with the requirements of the law?"



I don't know about the "rest of us", but I do know about you. I am not sure
about being smarter, but you sure prove that I act smarter.   Ask the assessor
how the system works.  I know how it works because I asked. But, don't take my
word for it because I could be just as big a BSer as you.  So if you want the
truth go to the source.  But, then you might be exposed as the shallow
McCarthyite that you appear to be.  You'll never go to get the truth because you
may find that it destroys your love of conspiracy. Staying ignorant is much more
to your style of character assassination.
11:47 am est 

A Town of the Rich

This will soon be a town of the rich,hangers on and those who serve
them.

The big question is where are the servers to live? Who gets to serve the $20
hamburgers?
11:43 am est 

Re: Conspiracy etc.........

"She needs to stick to dentistry and leave politics to the experts.
Ann will have another puppet to do her dirty work once again."



What nonsense.  Exactly what political "experts" do you mean?  We have no
political experts in town government.  We have a few essentially unpaid
volunteers, but certainly they are not "experts".  All this "puppet" talk is so
very, very puppety.  Who pulls your strings.  So much jingoism.

"how many other such low-ball special treatment cases are there".  More talk
without thinking.  You are accusing the assessor of giving "special treatment"
to some.  That is a criminal offense.  Notify the Attorney General.  More to the
point, maybe you have no clue about special treatment but are so ignorant and
spiteful that you would accuse a good person of a crime just to try to justify
your narrow minded vindictive political viewpoint.  Talk to the assessor and get
the truth about how assessed values are assigned essentially automatically in
many cases and market value is rarely exactly consistent with assessed value. 
How is it possible to assess at market value until a property is sold and the
market value is truly known.  Again, try to use your brain instead of your
mouth.

I have no axes to grind politically, but I really despise this anonymous,
baseless accusation of corruption and criminal behavior.  If you know of
criminal behavior show some courage and conviction.  Root it out through the
justice system instead of the cowardly hiding here.
10:14 am est 

Re: Conspiracy etc.........

"I'd encourage you to find out how assessed values are set before you
start flinging your conspiracy theories"



OK, you are so much smarter than the rest of us.  So please explain to us
dummies how this assessment complied with the requirements of the law?

Good luck with that.  We are waiting.
10:11 am est 

Re: Conspiracy etc.........

"Perhaps our Assessor has done a good job in some other cases, but he
did not do a good job for the Town's taxpayers in this specific case, and it
begs the question how many other such low-ball special treatment cases are
there."


Did you know that our assessed values must be approved by the State every year? 
Oh, they are in on it too?

I'd encourage you to find out how assessed values are set before you start
flinging your conspiracy theories
9:45 am est 

Re: Conspiracy etc.........

"Our assessor has done a good job but Sharon's assessment was 45%
below her purchase price..."


Perhaps our Assessor has done a good job in some other cases, but he did not do
a good job for the Town's taxpayers in this specific case, and it begs the
question how many other such low-ball special treatment cases are there.
9:21 am est 

Renters in Charge

The folks who rent and vote at town meeting will be in charge and the taxpayers
will have to bear the brunt of paying for affordable housing for them.

They will pass draconian laws that will impoverish the single homeowner as the
commander the rental property of other homeowners.

Then there will be the backlash.

Then the unintended consequences of the actions of the Housing Summit will leave
them stunned as the homeowners get lawyers and they turn all rental units into
condos that they rent as they did before..but are individually owned by the
owner and the housing cartel can't touch. And they raise the rents to cover the
rise in the taxes on each unit.


9:19 am est 

Re: Conspiracy etc.........

Of course, everyone has the right to shoot off their mouth and let us
all know how silly they are. All this talk about changing assessed values point
to only one place.  It cannot happen without the total involvement of the
Assessor.  If you understand this and still insist that the assessments of town
employees have been wrongfully reduced, then say it stright out that you believe
the assessor to be corrupt and a criminal. If you don't believe that he is
corrupt and a criminal, then SHUT UP instead of SHOUTING OUT. Mindless
accusations are like McCarthyism.  Far more vicious and evil than that which the
accuser is charging.
9:09 am est 

Sharon Lynn's Property Assessment & Sale

Our assessor has done a good job but Sharon's assessment was 45% below
her purchase price in 2003 or so. Now that it has sold for nearly 100k below her
purchase price I will be very interested to see if the new owner's assessment
will be changed.
9:01 am est 

Facts From Housing Summit Cartel

They state this as a fact: Fast rate of condo conversions not yielding housing
stock (statistics report over 35,000 conversions in the last 7 years).

What they claim is that 416 apartments in town have been converted into condos
every month, for the last 7 years.

They also want the town to be landlords. Do you know what it takes to evict a
tenant? Ask some lawyers in town. and you want to make the town a landlord?

They want to take the buildings that we voted to sell at town meeting to pay for
a new police station to pay for their affordable housing instead.

They want to jack up the taxes and have the taxpayers pay for affordable
housing. They want citizens to donate property to become affordable housing.
They want, they want, they want--you had better go to town meeting, home owners
and business owners--or you will have everything taken away from you.just sayin.
8:52 am est 

Cape Cod Commission Withdrawal Signs

CAPE COD COMMISSION WITHDRAWAL YARD SIGNS NOW AVAILABLE!

To request your FREE yard sign, and help to TAKE BACK LOCAL CONTROL from the
oppressively dictatorial CAPE COD COMMISSION (and its Provincetown
representative, Austin Knight), please call: 508-685-2921. [Each yard sign has a
red background with white lettering, and says TAKE BACK LOCAL CONTROL, followed
by the words "Cape Cod Commission" inside of a circle with a strike-out line
through it.]
8:45 am est 

Cheryl Andrews

What an opportunist! She is going to do us all a favor and run. The cycle
continues!  This is how we got into the mess we're in now. She needs to stick to
dentistry and leave politics to the experts. Ann will have another puppet to do
her dirty work once again.

When will it stop???
8:42 am est 

Sunday, January 19, 2014

Re: When You Leave You Leave a Legacy

Is it the former Town Manager you are all posting about or is the subject the
current Town Assessor?
10:53 pm est 

Maybe It's Time to Re-Read the Marcum Report

People may be out of here. Sharon may be in Rehobeth Beach and Jeff Jaran may be
wherever Kim Hurd lives, but we are left with many damages. Re-read the Marcum
Report to see how bad it was and to see that we were on the verge of a police
state. jaran had his sad goals and they were to have us all held hostage to his
rules.

True, you may not have been in his cross-hairs and you may feel that life was
just fine. but for anyone who was in Jaran's cross-hairs, life was difficult. He
was threatening and he had Sharon Lynn's backing.

We have escaped a difficult time and I hope we will not  repeat our own
mistakes. But we could.
8:58 pm est 

What? Leave Her Alone!

How odd. this town manager is gone and I say: thank goodness for us. but you
want us to be silent. why? that she is gone doesn't make this woman a saint. she
did bad things. she was in kahoots with Jeff Jaran. she propped him up and let
him do whatever he wanted. Even if illegal. and now we should be silent.

How utterly wrong you are. Sharon Lynn has left us with many difficult problems
and many legal bills.

No, we will not be silent. she is not simply a mirage of the past. She hovers
and we continue to pay for so many awful problems.
8:56 pm est 

So What is Jeff Jaran's Assessments for This Year--and for Last Year?

Is this another lowering of value to work with this authoritarian person? Is
Jarans' assessments even lower than they were for last year? Most of our
assessments went up--what happened to his?
8:55 pm est 

Re: Sharon Lynn

I Am Glad that Sharon is Gone

and her place has sold and she and Patricia are now out of here. Good for her.
good for us. However, he leaving doesn't just eliminate nor wash away all of the
problems that Sharon Lynn caused and that we are now stuck with.

Yes. she is gone but the consequences of her hirings and actions are still here.
And we suffer for that.
8:52 pm est 

Thoughts on Relevancy and Communism

Perhaps some of the fans of Raphael Richter could enlighten townsfolk
on why he is a great candidate.  Being possibly'cheated' out of the election by
the dark Knight is not enough. What is his relevant experience?


And to the frightened ninny posting about the commie housing cartel cabal
bloc-get a grip. Truth be told town administrators were talking about limiting
condo conversion back in 1995. Things would have been very different for this
town had limitations been enacted. Frankly its too late. This will soon be a
town of the rich,hangers on and those who serve them.
8:50 pm est 

The Puppet Master Lives

People,  don't forget the Puppet Master is still alive here and pulling
strings.  Anne McGuire will replace Sharon as quickly as C. Andrews
jumped into the election. Remember it was her who gave us M. Cotute
Not a great recommendation!

I believe Raffie deserves the seat and I plan on voting for him!!!
8:47 pm est 

Re: Sharon Lynn

"It would be lovely if everyone could leave Sharon Lynn alone. She's no
longer here, and so many are still complaining about her! Move on already!"


If people don't admit the injustice....we are doomed to repeat it.

She was corrupt....get used to it!
8:44 pm est 

Conspiracy etc.........

How about stopping your whining about what others are posting. We still
have freedom of speech in our country!  Everyone has the right of expressing
themselves as they see fit. NOT AS YOU SEE FIT!!!!!!!
8:42 pm est 

When You Leave You Leave a Legacy

It could be good. It could be horrible. Sharon Lynn has left but she has left us
with many unresolved issues. It may take years to unravel this knotted mess.
8:35 pm est 

Re: Sharon Lynn

Sharon Lynn Has Come Up again Because of the Sale of Her Property

and the very low assessment of her property. this was in this week's Banner and
therefore discussion on the strangeness of this assessment has surfaced.

Leave her alone? she was here for seven years and she did much damage. Too many
of the people she hired were not the best but they fit her design. We have many
department heads that would never have been hired had she not been town manager.

Hire the best. but this is not what Sharon did. Plus, she was not the best
candidate when she ran for this position. Behind all the shenanigans was Ann
McGuired and also, sad to say, Sarah Peake. They greased the entrance into her
gaining the position and many years later there is much turmoil here.

8:34 pm est 

Re: Securing Your Property From Town Meeting Takeover

Zoning has been around for years.  It is not communism, you probably
have no idea what communism is. In a democracy people are free to vote for
zoning to restrict property usage.  It is common to all towns in the state.  We
restrict the height of buildings.  we have single family only zones.  So as the
poster says, think first, post later.

If anyone has a list of the assessed values of town employees real estate and
can show that there is a pattern of reduced values vs other properties, please
give it to the attorney general and the press.  Otherwise,please knock it off. 
What is the point of all this stupid speculation.  Are you trying to make things
worse or better?  If there is governmental employee abuse of power in the
assessors office,  someone should report it.  That will make the town better. 
If you just hate lots of people and want to simply hurt them in any way you can. 
Stop for the good of all.

Personally I think that the people who start asking questions to start
conspiracy talk are mean spirited jerks. Our assessor is as good as they get as
are most of our employees.
8:30 pm est 

Re: Sharon Lynn

"It would be lovely if everyone could leave Sharon Lynn alone. She's
no longer here, and so many are still complaining about her! Move on already!"



As soon as the taxpayers finish paying for her trashy deeds left here, I'll move
on.
8:25 pm est 

Unintended Consequences of Housing Summit

From the fall out from The housing summit all second homeowners and landlords
are evil incarnate.

The housing summit wants to tax the second homeowners and stop private citizens
from turning the apartments that they own into condos.

Interesting how some people who developed their property and who bought their
own condos are now calling for a moratorium on others.

Well, the unintended consequences are that it now behooves every property owner
of a multi family property to do the paper work to be ready to register their
property at a moment's notice.

The unintended consequences are that every existing apartment in this town can
now be "condo ready" and as soon as this appears on the warrant--condos they
will become..and once registered--they may be unregistered as well at a future
date
12:40 pm est 

Securing Your Property From Town Meeting Takeover

With the Banner Article by Ann Woods stating that condo conversions have taken
hundreds of apartments off of the market--it means that multi family homes must
be selling like hot cakes so the Affordable Housing Summit wants to ban condo
conversions.

I guess that homeowners will have to do the paper work to have their property
"condo ready" and thus be able to register it and turn it into condos at a
moments notice so that it can remain in their total possession.

Communism comes to Provicetown and thy name is Housing Summit.
12:37 pm est 

Sharon Lynn

It would be lovely if everyone could leave Sharon Lynn alone. She's no
longer here, and so many are still complaining about her! Move on already!
12:25 pm est 

Recall Election - Raphael Richter

I Would Want so Much to Have Raphael Richter Run

He is the person who should run. He is the one done in by Austin Knight and done
in Jeff Jaran. My enthusiasm for the recall is linked to his running. will he? I
can only hope Raphael Richter does. We need him.
12:06 pm est 

Real Estate Reality

The Trigger for All of This Now Was the Sale of Sharon Lynn's Property

And when some looked at the sale price and then they looked at the assessed
value--which went down from last year--and most of your assessments went up and
up--it raised questions.

Something's been amiss for years in assessments and this just brings most to
start looking. Fair? Objective? I think not. Partial and privileged? I think so.
12:04 pm est 

Re: Former Sharon Lynn Property Assessment

So if??? Big question of if... Sharon L. was given a break on her
taxes of 45%, can the town go after her for it? This seems unbelievable that she
can get away with not paying her fair share of the taxes due the town.
Piglet
11:10 pm est 

Re: Conspiracy Theories & Suspicions

Look closely at the assessor's database. Many town employees are
assessed low and pay fewer taxes. This has been going on forever.
11:06 pm est 

Re: Ex-Town Manager Property

Was Sharon the only one in PT that sold for more than the assessed
valuation. Of course not.  Is Sharon the only one that gets smacked with this
conspiracy crap?  of course. I'm glad she's gone.  i think that she was way over
her head in trying to manage PT.  But, a crook who manipulated assessments. 
Never. Once again: STOP THE FOOLISH CONSPIRACY STUFF.  we have real problems and
don't need a bag full of made up stuff.
11:03 pm est 

Housing Summit

LANDLORDS PROTECT YOUR INVESTMENT FROM THE HOUSING SUMMIT

We contacted a specialist and we were informed to safe guard our multi family
home from being taken over by the housing summit cartel by doing all of the
paper work to turn it into condos.

We will do the paper work but we won't file the paper work until we learn what
articles will be brought forth at town meeting to ban properties from going
condo.

We won't do it now because we would pay taxes on each unit. Now we can breath
freely.

The housing summit cartel won't be able to make us keep one unit for affordable
housing. They won't put a limit to our condo conversion. We can sell the
property as once piece to any one who wants to buy and they can do the finishing
touches that they want to do.

Now we feel that we are covered from a take over by the affordable housing
summit. We are going to celebrate..
11:01 pm est 

Saturday, January 18, 2014

Recall Election

Yes Raphael Richter is the one who lost out in the last election.  He
should be on the BOS.  And by the way wasn't DR. Andrews part of the BOS that
got us into this mess when Sharon Lynn was brought to town?
10:15 pm est 

I Wish Raphael Richter Was Running

Who says he isn't running for one of the 3 year terms?
10:13 pm est 

Re: Recall Election

Two questions;

Who asked Cheryl Andrews to run and why do I want to vote for her? Wasn't she
part of the problematic system before with Bergman, turning her head all the
time and not asking the right questions which then allowed the town to be in the
bad spot financially that we are?

Who says Richter isn't running? I know people have posted in here that the
recall was all a ploy to get him elected but he needs to announce he's running
or not running. We know Andrews has but I don't know of anyone else that has
announced one way or the other.
10:10 pm est 

Former Sharon Lynn Property

Just out of curiosity I looked up 493 Commercial Street unit #13 in
the assessors data base. Valuation is $573,900. But it just sold for $925,000.
Whats with that?

hmm-smells to me-but so typical. This all has to be looked into by an outside
agency-dont forget-ann and harriet were involved in this whole complex-wonder
how much our town lost on this??We the taxpayers subsidized their tax bill.
great for them. not good for us. but typical of their behavior.so glad they are
leaving town-oh and I hope the assessor gets over to the bayshore for
reassessments!!!!!!
4:55 pm est 

Recall Election

I wish Raphael Richter Were Running

It's not the same to go through the recall and not have Raphael Richter as a
possible replacement. My heart is not in this without him. We need new blood and
fresh ideas and I feel this is a lot of work to not have him as a candidate. It
is Raphael Richter who was done in by Austin Knight and Jeff Jaran. It is
Richter who was done in and not to have him as a posibility lessens the rush to
recall.

this is quite a disappointment. Indeed!
4:53 pm est 

Conspiracy Theories & Suspicions

Someone said,"think before you post".  It may be very clever to know
how to get data from public web sites, but knowing what the data means and how
to use it are a very different story.  Frequently when property changes hands
among "legal" entities it is sold for a single $.  No conspiracy.  Just a very,
very normal way of doing business.  Ask any real estate lawyer.  Remortgaging
through a different bank.  Transferring to a trust.  All legal and above board. 
THINK BEFORE YOU POST. Stop with the constant conspiracy theories and mindless,
groundless suspicions.
4:48 pm est 

Re: Former Sharon Lynn Property Assessment

"This means it is very possible the owner (Ms. Lynn) got a 45% tax
break."


My current property assessment seems to be a decent estimate of fair market
value, as the Assessor says is the intent for every property in Town (and in
compliance with state law).

45% off for what was his boss? 10% or even 15% one way or the other would be
understandable, as it's not an exact science.  But 45%???

Where do I go to get my 45% tax break?
4:43 pm est 

Re: Ex-Town Manager Property

"She paid a buck for it from Harriet and Ann...it's public record."


Actually "Sharon Lynn et al" paid $1,005,000 on 6/12/2003.  Here is the public
record that shows that:

http://www.assessedvalues2.com/pdfs/242/K003199T810291172.pdf
4:40 pm est 

Re: Again and Again You are Missing the Point

If people underpaid real estate taxes, it's not. Their fault.  It's
the Town Manager and her Assessor who made us lose revenue that should have come
to us.
4:37 pm est 

Re: PTV

"Again"
Where are the BOS' meetings on PTV???????
Anybody know?"


They"re behaving like Austin. But we can easily resolve this at the next Town
Meeting.  Little by little we'll straighten out things...
4:35 pm est 

Again and Again You are Missing the Point

Assessments are not facts done according to state laws unless that is exactly
how it is done. But this is not how it is done and not how it has been done for
years and years. It has been preferential and then assessments based on who you
are and what position you hold in town. and those who have been too
political---increase in assessments.

Laws exist but you cannot naively believe that the laws get enforced as they are
enacted. Take a close look at this town and see the reality. It might pain you
but it is what it is.
12:27 pm est 

Recall Election

Thank you, Cheryl Andrews, for stepping up to the plate at this time
of great need in our town.
12:03 pm est 

PTV - BOS Meetings

"Again"........

Where are the BOS' meetings on PTV???????

Anybody know?
12:01 pm est 

Re: Former Sharon Lynn Property

Yeah, the law says that the assessed value should be the fair market
value, but in reality how do you propose to make this always the case.  Should
we pay for appraisers to work 24/7/365 to make sure that all properties are
assessed at their opinion of fair market value all the time?

Instead of this constant barrage of conspiracy theories please start to think
before you post.  For sure there are people in places of power that abuse that
power, but not all all the time.  Look for reasonable causes for things not the
ever present negatives.
11:57 am est 

Austin Knight Recall

AUSTIN KNIGHT (and any other name he chooses to go by) MUST BE RECALLED!

Austin should resign from the board of selectmen!
However, he will not. The only way our town can rid itself of the cloud of
malfesence, lack of trust in our elected officials, doubt in our governing
process, and return to a belief our town government is indeed ethical is to
recall Austin Knight. Although Austin is no longer ChIrman of the BOS, as was
demonstrated at last weeks BOS meeting, he still calls the shots. Elaine
Anderson looks to Austin for advise and council just as she always has. Austin,
and his unethical methods is a cancer to our governing process and needs to be
eliminated. A smart, ethical, articulate person not obligated, or intimidated by
Elaine Anderson is needed to replace Austin Knight on the board of selectmen.
Austin, as a representative of Provincetown, must go completely so that faith in
our town governing process can (and will be) restored.

JIM KING
11:51 am est 

Ex-Town Manager Property

She paid a buck for it from Harriet and Ann...it's public record.
11:48 am est 

Dragging Another Person Down

First it was recall of the chair, now there is no stopping the voice of
Provincetown. He stepped down but it isn't enough. They want to crucify him.
That is how I see.

Voters be damned. I don't vote according to how many signs a person has up
around town. They make assumptions about a person and then it is OFF WITH HIS
HEAD.

Recall this, petition that, committees overstep their jurisdiction. On and on
and on. Who will be in their gun sights next? Who will be spared? What a sad
commentary on these folks determined to rip Provincetown apart.
11:47 am est 

Housing Summit - Denying Homeowners Their Rights

Folks have a housing summit in order to force the the taxpayers at town meeting
to  provide them with affordable housing.

These folks who rent will pack town meeting. They want rich taxpayers to 
provide housing for them.

What about the taxpayers who own property? Here is what the housing summits
states: They want to tighten loopholes in code restrictions for condo
conversions saying ours are currently are lax; which means if you own
property--the Housing Summit cartel wants to be able to make demands on what you
can and not do to your property.

You must take a loss, make some affordable if you want to do anything with your
property..Their mantra is this: WHAT IS MINE IS MINE AND WHAT IS YOURS IS MINE.

THIS IS THE MINDSET IN PROVINCETOWN NOW.

They want the taxpayer to buy property for the workers of business owners in
Provincetown. What happens with this workforce housing intended for those
participating businesses?

Suddenly it is like the old company towns of the 1930s: if your housing is
dependent on your job--you lose your job so then you lose your housing.

11:45 am est 

Possible Loss of Revenue

For the sake of our little town, let's hope that real estate
assessments have been made fairly, equitably, and legally consistent.

Otherwise, it would be millions of dollars in revenue over the years that our
town should have had, but didn't receive.
11:42 am est 

Re: Former Sharon Lynn Property

Sorry But Missing the Point Again

You need to see if the fair Market rate is the same for most property owners in
town and look across all properties. Looking inside the same condo complex won't
get you the answer if all were purposefully lowered for the benefit of a town
manager or all were lowered for the benefit of a town chief of police.

Fair Market may only be fair for some of the people some of the time.
11:39 am est 

Re: Former Sharon Lynn Property

Hey rat in the basement- you are on to something!

According to the Town of Provincetown Assessor's Database East End waterfront
with a 135 degree water view and a parking space starts at a cost per square
foot of around $727 and goes up to just over $1,200. Without parking the
Assessor's datbase reports east end waterfront around $625 to $1012 per square
foot for very similar nearby properties.

493-(unit 13) COMMERCIAL ST  was assesssed around $360 per square foot and sold 
for $613 square foot. This means it is very possible the owner got a 45% tax
break.

Check for yourselves:
Town of Provincetown Assessor's Database
http://www.assessedvalues2.com/index.aspx?jurcode=242

493-U13 COMMERCIAL ST
http://www.assessedvalues2.com/pdfs/242/K003199T810291172.pdf
11:36 am est 

Re: Former Sharon Lynn Property

" Assessed is only the value placed on your property to collect taxes
in a fair way. What it's worth is a completely different issue."



As the saying goes, you are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts.
State General Law chapter 59 section 38 clearly states that fair market cash
valuation on the date of the assessment is the sole determining factor in
setting the assessment. It is also the only grounds for claiming an abatement to
an assessment. Nothing else.

Our town Assessor seems knowledgeable and transparent. At the least he should be
embarrassed that the property of a senior town official was assessed so far
below not one but two actual fair market sales prices on that same property.
Let's hope it was a rare mistake and nothing more.
11:33 pm est 

Re: Former Sharon Lynn Property

No You Are Missing the Point

You don't look to those properties that are close to Sharon Lynn's or in the
same complex. You look at key people in town and see what they are assessed. You
look to see whose property was increased and by how much and those properties
that were lowered and by how much. Some places are all reduced in the same
complex due to political connections. the inequalities are those of people and
positions and those who receive favored status. Look to the person and not to
the location.
11:31 pm est 

Re: Former Sharon Lynn Property

"She was paid what some sucker wanted to pay because they had to have
it."


Perhaps you missed the point that she paid over $1 million for that place to
begin with.  So it just wasn't a case of one crazy buyer later paying over
market.
11:29 pm est 

Re: Real Estate Assessment Reality

"There is no one-to-one relationship between the sales price of real
estate and the assessed value."


Actually Mass. Law requires that assessed values be directly related to Fair
Market Value as determined by actual sales price of the property itself or of
similar properties if the specific property hasn't sold recently. There is a
time delay due to the date of the assessment, but the goal as required by law is
to fairly assess the property at Fair Market Value as of that date. Of course it
isn't an exact science, but the case raised here is highly suspect and raises
legitimate [questions].

Certainly wish my property were assessed at 40 percent less than its  likely
sale price.
11:26 pm est 

Friday, January 17, 2014

Re: Former Sharon Lynn Property

Only way you can prove there is any favors being done would be to compare simiar
condo units in the same building and see if they are assessed the same or
higher. If higher, then yes, something is wrong. Otherwise, she was paid what
some sucker wanted to pay because they had to have it. Assessed is only the
value placed on your property to collect taxes in a fair way. What it's worth is
a completely different issue.
8:13 pm est 

Jennifer Cabral

I feel compelled to write here that I have changed my position on a current
matter. I had posted some time ago that I thought a recall petition of Selectman
Knight would not carry the day ultimately and that the damage done might be
worse than 2 more years of this politician. Now that Cheryl Andrews has stepped
to the plate to run for his seat in May, I have come around to thinking that we
would be better served in the coming years to replace Mr. Knight, who has proven
to be recalcitrant in addressing significant issues the town has faced and
unrepentant in the face of his own errors in judgement. His stepping down as
Chair was done too late in the game to be considered anything but calculated, a
tardy half-hearted political gesture intended to quell the turning tide. Had he
stepped down as Chair of his own free will and with awareness that he had not
served the community well by manipulating the board's agenda throughout his
tenure, I might have continued to soft-peddle eff!orts for his recall. But I believe the buck ultimately stops at the Chair.

I believe a lot of the suffering our town experienced could have been circumvented
had Austin Knight been the leader we needed. Had HE demanded accountability so
we didn't have to. Had he not caved to insular political pressure and instead
served the people who elected him. I am one of those people who elected him. And
I am ashamed of my vote.

Regrettably, the push for recall is not unanimous in our town and I do worry
about the strain it will cause. Hopefully, we can have clean lines drawn and
understand that each side believes it is doing what is right for the community.
We may disagree, but the majority votes will decide at the end of the day. For
those of you who disagree, please honor the right of the process to happen.
It is legal.
It is valid.

For those of you who agree, try to tone down the rhetoric. Avoid hyperbole. You
will only alienate those who may be on the fence. Do not be self-righteous,
because that is highly annoying. I hope we can show the world how disagreement
is handled in this, our beloved town, a democracy that communities all over the
world would be proud to emulate.
8:03 pm est 

Re: Sharon Lynn

"OK, we get it, Sharon Lynn is gone."


Actually, she's still with us due to the legal mess she left us.
7:13 pm est 

Real Estate Assessment Reality

There is no one-to-one relationship between the sales price of real
estate and the assessed value.  I know a property that was assessed for close to
a mil but sold for .75 mil and others, just the opposite.  We are fortunate to
have a very competent assessor who can explain all of this if you ask.  Please
don't make everything into a conspiracy.
7:10 pm est 

Employment in Provincetown

Ok, we have heard they whining, now it's time for suggestions that
might work.  PT needs experienced seasonal employees.  No argument there, right? 
Seasonal workers can't make enough in a few months to support themselves for 12
months, right?  How about some suggestions on how to make this work.  Can we
expect that the type of people that make all the seasonal businesses run can
found in the yearly influx from other countries? Do those folks have the
experience and maturity and dedication to do the jobs?  Some jobs, sure.  All
the jobs, no.  So where will the right people be when they are not here for the
season?  Jobs are tight all over so they just can't move somewhere else for a
few months every year and expect to find a job and somewhere to live.  This is
not easy.  There are no simple answers.  These people are an essential component
of life here.  Of course, some don't have the abilities and ambitiousness that
we may think that they should have.  Not everyon!
e is the fastest runner.

For once can we generate a productive discussion and try to come up with some
positive ideas that might make PT a better place for all?  Can we stop with the
anecdotes of a few and try to transfer those to the many?  The reality is that
we have some community problems that the community should try to work on.  How
about some solutions instead of constantly harping on the problems?  We already
know the problems.  We don't know the solutions.
7:07 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall Signing Location

Schedule for Name gathering at Napi's....

Vincent Currier
We have received permission from NAPI'S RESTAURANT to hold signature gathering
meetings at the historic restaurant for the next three consecutive weeks! We
will be at the restaurant from 12 to 2 on each Monday and Tuesday for the next
three weeks.

1.) Monday and Tuesday, January 20 and 21, 2014.....12 to 2

2.) Monday and Tuesday, January 27 and 28, 2014......12 to 2

3.) Monday and Tuesday, February 3 and 4, 2014......12 to 2

You can come to the restaurant and drop off your signed petition, pick up a
petition, sign a petition, or just say hello and ask any questions you may have
about the recall. If there is anything I can do to make it easier to sign, or
answer questions, please call me at 508-487-2163.
7:02 pm est 

Re: Former Sharon Lynn Property

"Just out of curiosity I looked up 493 Commercial Street unit #13 in
the assessors data base. Valuation is $573,900. But it just sold for $925,000.
Whats with that?"




What is up with that is what has gone on for several years-special favors for
the cabal-THE TAX should have been based at least near her purchase price of
$1,005,000.   but no-  hmmmmmmmmmm. These special favors went on in many
departments and still go on in the building department.  Russell Braun is the
worst offender. Some contractors and builders he "nails to a cross". Others get
away with SO MUCH!     Especially the queen bee- DEB PAINE who was connected to
the whole group-THAT DEPT IS THE MOST INCONSISTENT DEPT-AND THE BUCK STOPS WITH
RUSS BRAUN( no pun intended).
7:00 pm est 

Former Sharon Lynn Property

Just out of curiosity I looked up 493 Commercial Street unit #13 in
the assessors data base. Valuation is $573,900. But it just sold for $925,000.
Whats with that?

A Rat In The Basement
9:26 am est 

Re: Life Choices

"Lo and behold it became the goose that laid the golden egg. When IRAs
started,my brother told us that we should all open one. I wasn't even 30 years
old--but I did and now it has 5  big figures in it."


Lord, I am so tired of your gloating. So you worked, had good luck, maybe never
a life threatening illness or natural disaster, or had your employer suddenly
leave town, or the myriad of other uncontrollable things that happen to the
people of the world. Please stop reminding us of how lucky you are. It's smug,
unkind and what you have in 'riches' you certainly lack in class.
9:23 am est 

Re: Sharon Lynn

"Gone. In another town. In another place. To Rehobeth Beach and now
there is little left here."


Actually, a lot is left here...a lot of legal bills for the Provincetown
taxpayers to pay because of her incompetence in managing personnel.
9:22 am est 

Re: Unemployment Article

I very much know about the past decde regarding unemployment and the need to
those effected by the economy. The difference is those people have SUDDENLY hit
hard times. They've had full time jobs for long times and SUDDENLY they have no
job and no income. Didn't see it coming. The article in the Banner was in
regards to someone that has collected every year as though it's part of his
normal yearly lifestyle. THAT'S NOT WHAT UNEMPLOYMENT IS ABOUT. It's not a
winter income but that's how it's being used. You, apparently, are part of the
problem.
9:21 am est 

Austin Knight -Recall Signing Location

Can someone post the dates and times set up at Napi's for collecting
signatures for the recalling of Selectman Austin Knight?  Thanks.
9:19 am est 

Sharon Lynn

According to the Rehoboth newspapers, Lynn has said that she has many
friends here that she will come back to visit.  More theater, of course.

Maybe Lynn's "many friends" should visit her instead.
9:17 am est 

Sharon Lynn

According to the Rehoboth newspapers, Lynn has said that she has many
friends here that she will come back to visit.  More theater, of course.

Maybe Lynn's "many friends" should visit her instead.
9:15 am est 

Knight vs Anderson

Why is Elaine allowing Austin to monopolize the meetings?

Get some backbone, Elaine.  It's you who's the Chair, not him.
9:14 am est 

Austin Knight

Austin, save himself the embarrassment and resign.  All your name now
produces is laughter.
9:13 am est 

Austin Knight
 
"Knight said today he had not heard about the affidavit and had no
direct comment on it."



Someone here said that Austin is like Chris Christie.  That person is right. 
Austin never knows anything.  He should apply to be Chris Christie's driver or
something.  A perfect pair!
9:11 am est 

Re: She is Definitely Out of Here

OK, we get it, Sharon Lynn is gone. Do you people seriously have
nothing more important to write about? Grow up.
9:08 am est 

Thursday, January 16, 2014

Time For a Hearing Aid, Austin!


"Knight said today he had not heard about the affidavit and had no direct
comment on it."


Now, really! You'd fib about your own      , wouldn't you?
10:59 pm est 

Finance Committee Meeting
Meeting Agenda
                                                                             
The Provincetown Finance Committee will hold an open meeting on Tuesday, January 28th at 4PM in the Judge Welsh Room, 260 Commercial Street, Votes will be taken: 

Public Comments Member Statements Charter Review Commission Update 2015 Budget Issues          On Monday, January 13, 2014 the Board of Selectmen requested a working [session ]be formed to review the five-year pro forma of the Pier Corp and the Management Agreement for Harbormaster Services they currently have with the Pier Corp.  This group will make recommendations on the possible renewal of the agreement (or a possible one-year extension to review the structure of the organization and/or any other options brought forward to further the goals of the two organizations).  The Finance Committee will be asked to nominate representative (s).  Minutes  Approval                                                                                                                                                                 
10:44 pm est 

Re: She is Definitely Out of Here

Gone. In another town. In another place. To Rehobeth Beach and now there is
little left here. So long. The door closes. the condominium is sold. the ocean
awaits other yes; others who will appreciate the delights of the view and of the
place.

10:36 pm est 

Cape Cod on Line - Patrick Cassidy


PROVINCETOWN – The former chairman of the Provincetown Board of Selectmen is now facing a potential recall vote and a former member of the board is already vying to take his place.

An affidavit was filed this morning asking for the recall of Selectman Austin Knight, according to Provincetown Town Clerk Doug Johnstone.

Of the 66 signatures on the affidavit, 62 were certified by the board of registrars, Johnstone wrote in an email.

Next, a recall petition must be signed by at least 10 percent of the town's voters within 20 days.

There were 2,915 registered voters in Provincetown as of the affidavit's filing so 292 signatures are needed on the petition by Feb. 5, Johnstone wrote.

If enough signatures are gathered and certified by the board of registrars the selectmen must be notified and must give written notice to Knight, according to the charter. If Knight does not resign within five days of that notice an election must be scheduled not less than 75 days and not more than 85 days after the certification of the petition unless there is a town election planned within 100 days, in which case the recall election will be held then, according to the charter.

The next town election is scheduled for May 6, which would fall within that period. Candidates seeking to fill the seat if the recall is successful would be able to run during the same election, according to the charter.

Knight said today he had not heard about the affidavit and had no direct comment on it.
“I have a lot of people who have supported me in town,” he said. “That means a lot to me.”

Knight voluntarily stepped down as chairman Monday after months of criticism over his alleged conflict of interest involving the former police chief.

Two other selectmen have said Knight should have recused himself months ago during the board's discussions about the discipline of former Police Chief Jeff Jaran.

Jaran was fired in December for attempting to distribute Knight's campaign signs to his officers in the police station before the May election.

An independent investigation found that Jaran encouraged his officers to vote for Knight and took campaign signs to the station for that purpose.

Knight said he did not know the chief was taking signs for police officers.

But an investigation by Frank Rudewicz of Marcum LLP found that Knight did, in fact, understand that would be the case.

Former Provincetown Selectman Cheryl Andrews already has announced that she will run for the seat if the recall effort is successful.

“I don't see the town being able to be back on its feet and working constructively with him at the table,” she said about Knight.

Andrews, who served nine years on the Board of Selectmen and is the town's current delegate on the Barnstable County Assembly of Delegates, said she has heard from a lot of people who believe Knight should resign.

Her decision to announce her plan now to run if the seat becomes open is intended to give voters a choice, she said.

“I think it's important now for people to know they have a candidate,” she said.

Andrews said she would give up her seat on the town's housing authority and scale back on other activities if elected.

10:33 pm est 

Recall Has Begun

It has started and let the list be filled with those who oppose what Austin
Knight has done. If you are against his illegal actions and his poor leadership
and his deceptive behavior, then sign the petitions that are now out there.

Take action. Pick up a pen and sign.
6:41 pm est 

It's a Done Deal!

BREAKING NEWS SOLD Jan. 10. Sharon Lynn and Patricia K. Greene to Daniel David Klipper and Barbara Klipper. 493 Commercial St., Unit 13. $925,000.
4:33 pm est 

Re: Life Choices

When you sell, we'll gain 10 sunny days a year. I already feel your smog of smug
fading.

--The Welfare "Queen"
4:31 pm est 

Unemployment Reform....

YES it is needed as well as a program to aid
people to move elsewhere to find a year- round job. They do not exist here.
4:30 pm est 

Half Empty vs Half Full

Nice, that post about the 68 year old gentlemen that makes a decent
living for 5 or 6 months in Provincetown and then winters and rests in a warmer
state got little fanfare.

Seems people on this blog only want to site GLOOM and DOOM.

4:16 pm est 

Austin Knight - Cape Cod Commission

FINALLY...Austin Knight, the Corrupt, is being recalled! He needs to
be immediately replaced as our Rep on the Cape Cod Commission too!

Would Cheryl Andrews or anyone else know where we can get one of the Cape
Commission Withdrawal Petitions as well? Since Austin came out against it, it
must be a good thing for town residents and a bad thing for him and his cronies!

RECALL AUSTIN KNIGHT!

WITHDRAW FROM THE CAPE COD COMMISSION!
4:14 pm est 

Congratulations to All

Congratulations to all in Getting 67 Notarized signatures to start the ball rolling!

This is [was] not easy to. Each signatures must be notarized. Each person who wants[wanted] to
sign must [had to] get someone to notarized their signature and voter status. This takes
[took] so much effort.

Congratulations to all who did sign. and on to the next step in the recall.
4:13 pm est 

The Face of Kiehl's

Don't want 'em here. But I might have to bite my lip if they can prove they're
not another chain that will further homogenize Commercial St. while paying
shopgirl wages and preying on Kiss and Make-Up, which sells a lot of high-end
wrinkle creams and the like that are directly competitive. I know because I've
shopped at Christine's, as well as Kiehl's on-line.

I hope it's not too personal to repeat what many who deal with Christine know:
she is uniquely stylish, like several other local boutique owners the living
embodiment of what she sells. Meanwhile, who is the human face of Kiehl's? Their
CEO? Some model in a magazine ad? Anyone who ever set foot in P'town? Perhaps it
will be their local employees, who some previous commenters seem to think will
get twenty bucks an hour, a 401(k) and free moisturizer for life.


4:07 pm est 

Why Would You Want Chain Stores?

For Commercial St, which is the ONLY reason we see so many people during
high season?  There are beaches all over the Cape, but only one Commercial St. 

If you want chain stores to save yourself a few bucks ok,but do you want them
just available or on Commercial St.  With our year round population do you think
that we could support a lot of chains like Gap and best Buy etc. 

As the previous poster said, think it through before you post.  What do you really
want out of life in PT and how do you expect to get it.  Is it realistic?  or, just fantasy?

You want chains for cheaper, move to Hyannis where the traffic is so bad near
the chain stores that it takes forever to go from one big box to another.  No
thanks.  I'll stay here and pay a little more but have more time to enjoy.
4:03 pm est 

Life Choices

When We bought out house here--it was affordable for anyone--but it was the
hippie era and we thought that we'd buy it and stay in for a few weeks each
summer since we came up and camped any way--and then just rent it out.

Lo and behold it became the goose that laid the golden egg. When IRAs started,
my brother told us that we should all open one. I wasn't even 30 years old--but
I did and now it has 5 big figures in it.

I worked year round when I first moved here and my summer co-workers snickered
and would tell me their stories of winters spent in warm climates

Now these same folks are demanding affordable housing. I see their names. I have
worked part time for the last 8 years. We travel 3 times a year. People can't
believe my age--they all put me 15 years younger--I kid you not.

Ah, life has been good to me in Provincetown and when we sell, we will in the 1%
where we will live. Choices, my dears, choices--we all have them.

I feel sorry for the bitter folks who complain about their neighbors big house
or that there aren't 250 new affordable housing units in town that they feel
entitled to have presented to them by the taxpayers.

Too bad there is such division in town--but in a few years it will be history
for us. And others will bemoan the Provincetown that is no longer what it was in
the past--and they will live always wishing for what they can never have here
again.
3:56 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall

"No surprises on the recall names.  A very small group of people
continuing try to stir things up.  And it gives Courier something to do."


It gives a lot of people something to do and feel like they are revolutionaries.
The air is thick with self-congratulations and a giddy belief they are pushing
things forward. That,or they are pushing Provincetown back.

This is not to say the Knight should remain on the BOS. He's a trickster and not
a very bright one at that. But whether there will be a "stampede" of townspeople
signing the recall remains to be seen. I've got a bet for a pot of lobsters
saying the recall is bull. we'll see...
12:29 pm est 

Re: Unemployment Article


"The system has to change and so do peoples attitudes
regarding social assistance as not simply a crutch but a complete support
system."


Um, the system that has to change is the creation of full time jobs.
Provincetown has a seasonal economy. Did you just get here or wake from a deep
sleep to blather on about entitlements between snores?


And for kicks,take a good look at the employment statistics for the past decade.
Unemployment compensation is not a crutch but a necessity. That is all.
Goodnight Irene.
12:27 pm est 

Disney Park?

So now it's only on Commercial Street that we can't have chains, but
it's okay anywhere else in town?  Is that in our zoning laws?

Are we a Disney Park?  Jay Critchley was right. About what Provincetown was to
become.
12:24 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall

For several years now, Austin refused to release any BOS meetings'
agendas with any transparency. And he believes that his antics are perfectly
acceptable behavior for Provincetown. Since that's what he thinks the citizens
of Provincetown deserve for a government, I say, so long, Austin. You don't
deserve to hold any public office, not in Provincetown, not anywhere else.
12:23 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight

Why would anyone think hat Austin should remain as Selectman, when all
he's done is cover up his shady dealings?
12:21 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall

"Let the stamped to unseat Mr. Austin Knight begin! Will you sign the
recall?"


Just let us know when we need to sign and where. We'll be there.
12:18 pm est 

Upon Reflection

What we need to do is get rid if those in government responsible for
creating that great piece of theatre - the undeserved "Sharon Lynn Day".

Thanks to Ms. Lynn and her inability to manage competently, we'll be paying for
legal costs, including settlements.
12:17 pm est 

Sharon Lynn - Update

From the delmarvanews.com website:

"REHOBOTH BEACH  In Provincetown, Mass., Dec. 18 is Sharon Lynn day, as
proclaimed by the towns selectmen.

Lynn spent seven years working as town manager there and she plans to bring the
work and skills worthy of their own day to Rehoboth Beach, where she started as
city manager Jan. 6.

She chose the position in Rehoboth because it was similar to Provincetown and
because she liked the community.

I find it a very similar community with caring people who care about their
community, and thats what Im all about as well, Lynn said. Whats already been
done Ill expand on and continue with, and know that I care about the community
as much as the people who live and work here.

Much like outgoing city manager Greg Ferrese, Lynn has an open door policy and a
lifetime of experience working in government.

Ive been working for government all my life, the 59-year-old said. The most
important thing is, I dealt with people and I communicated with people all of my
career.

A career which she started young, as a police dispatcher in West Goshen
Township, Pa., just west of Philadelphia.

I started when I was very young, really. I walked in the door when I was 19, she
said. From there she became the departments first female officer and then the
first female detective.

After 21 years in the police department, she became West Goshens township
manager, a title she held for 10 years. Lynn took graduate courses at the FBI
National Academy, which prepared her for that position.

I think my well-rounded experience in both government and law enforcement makes
me good for the position here, Lynn said.

Lynn said Provincetown, her most recent employer, has business and residential
communities similar to Rehoboth Beach.

Provincetown is a town of 3,000 people year-round that swells to (50,000) to
70,000 people on any given day in the summer time, Lynn said. And I know
Rehoboth has those similar challenges.

In her time there, Lynn helped the town expand its wastewater system and
treatment plant, working with GHD, the same engineer overseeing Rehoboths
on-going wastewater project."
12:15 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall

"Let the stampede to unseat Mr. Austin Knight begin! Will you sign the
recall?"



I am so ready to do this. I know it is the right thing for our town.
12:10 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall

"I wonder if this recall petition is just more of the same and after
The chair of the selectmen, are they then going to go after the head of the
library, and then PTV and on and on and on."



----The people of Provincetown must do what's necessary to reverse several years
of a climate that produced individuals like Jaran, Lynn, and Knight.
----To  think that it's acceptable for our government to have someone like
Austin as one of the five at its helm is really laughable.
---If you believe Austin's behavior is acceptable, then move to New Jersey. 
There's a Governor there that operates just the way you like it.
12:08 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall

Someone here said that the petition with the 50 or more signatures is
for recalling of the Chairman Austin Knight.  The question raised is: Should a
new petition with the 50 signatures be reissued, but this time for the recalling
of Selectman Austin Knight?  Can someone with a legal background answer this?
12:02 pm est 

Vincent et Barbara

Vincent, Thank You and Barbara, Thank You--Yes Thank You for all your
time and effort- History I PROMISE YOU BOTH will look kindly on you!! We LOVE
YOU!!!!
11:58 am est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall

Let the stampede to unseat Mr. Austin Knight begin! Will you sign the
recall?
11:22 pm est 

Unemployment Article

I just read the article about unemployment in last weeks Banner. What a joke! I
love it when Peake mentions that people should be able to access what they are
entitled to. Do we really not understand why we are where we are as a society
with leaders like this? Unemployment isn't a lifestyle. It's designed for those
that are suddenly down on their luck and need assistance. I know they guy
mentioned in the article and like him, decent guy trying to get by. But to think
he's been doing this for how many years now, knowing he's going to be unemployed
every winter is wrong. The system has to change and so do peoples attitudes
regarding social assistance as not simply a crutch but a complete support
system.
11:20 pm est 

Chain Stores

Just to be clear, to be considered a legitimate chain, there needs to be more
that 10 retail stores and they all must fall under one common management
structure like McDonalds and Dunkin Donuts. As mentioned, there are a number of
them in town already so whats the big deal with another one? How many of us go
to local stores and exclusively buy our mechandise there instead of a cheaper
but equal alternative? And to the same end, why should I be forced to buy
anything from a more expensive store? Why NOT allow chains in here? That's
something in zoning that should be looked at and potentially changed. Either be
consistant and disallow chains altogether or open the flood gates and allow them
all if they want and not just a few (Cumbys, Tedeschis, Gulf, Subway, Radio
Shack, Mobil, Ace)
11:18 pm est 

Vincent, Thank You and Barbara, Thank You

You have been great and determined and now it is up to us. Great that Napi's is
helping this town by allowing voters and residents and those who care to come in
and sing.

Let's all do our part in this enterprise to help regain our town and the
leadership that we so desperately need.
11:16 pm est 

Austin Knight

Austin will now be the shadow Chairperson.
11:15 pm est 

Think Before Answering

A question for those free market economists out there. Why is it that
you think that big chains can make money in our short season but not smaller
local outfits with much lower overhead.

Will they draw customers away from the malls because they are on quaint,unique
Commercial St?  Will they pay the help less?  Will it be their really unusual
stuff that you can't find in too many other places  (except in hundreds of malls
across the country). What is it?  Think now, before you answer.
11:13 pm est 

Re: Chains

Runaway rents on Commercial St. is an argument against chains, not for them. The
deeper their pockets, the harder they can shove out locals so the bubble really
blows. Sound familiar? (Naah, that'll never happen again)!
11:11 pm est 

Chain Stores - Time to Start Thinking Folks

Do we really think that we get crowds on Commercial St. because we are like
every other shopping area in the country or because we are different?  Should
we work at being just another shopping mall with a little difference - we are near
the sea? For how long do you think that we could continue to attract the crowds
we see in jJuly and August if  every store on Commercial St was a Gap, Abercrombie,
verizon, Apple, Dunkin, Starbucks, LLbean, eastern Mountain etc? Of course they could
 pay more for rent, at least for now, but what happens when the crowds go to the Cape
Cod mall instead of Commercial St.?  By the way, many do not have a problem with
"branches" of local businesses, but with the sameness of national chains like
Burger King, like Gap, like Victoria's secret.  Seamen's bank is not a national
Chain, it is our local bank.  real estate agents who subscribe to national
referral services are NOT national chains.  Cumbie's is a local organization. 
Stop and Shop is NOT on Commericial ST.  It is not here to attract tourists but
to sell to the locals.

So lets have a reasonable debate but lets try to stick with well reasoned
arguments instead of BS.  Tell us how real National chains will make us better.
Don't talk about local companies with a couple of local branches.  Don't talk
about stores NOT on Commercial ST.  Commercial Street is IT.  Period.  Not
Shankpainter. Not Conwell.

Tell us how it will really make PT a BETTER place for all.  Walmart is huge and
can pay great wages But they DON"T, so don't give us that BS about national
chains paying more.  They don't.  Also, I agree with the other post about marc
Jacobs,  they are NOT a national chain at all.
11:10 pm est 

ATTENTION ATTENTION.....!!!

Please be clear that anyone who has already
signed the recall petition must sign it again for the next step in the process.
We are starting all over again to get to 300, so your new signature is
important....this 300 names do not have to be notarized. Thank you all.

Vincent Currier
508-487-2163
11:03 pm est 

Austin Knight Recall

No surprises on the recall names.  A very small group of people
continuing try to stir things up.  And it gives Courier something to do.
11:00 pm est 

Wednesday, January 15, 2014

Re: Kiehls is Coming?!

How is allowing Kiehls going to hurt anyone?   It's not like they are
McDonalds or Burger King.  They will be selling their own branded products not
the same products others sell.  Unless Kiss and Make Up sells Kiehls (I don't
think they do but I've never been in there) they will not be in competition with
Kiehls.  Are there other skin care/ cosmetic stores in town?  I am unaware of
any, but it's not something I'd be buying frequently anyway.  How anyone can
make a living selling make up in a three/four month season is beyond me, but if
Kiehls wants to try, I say let them.

In closing Kiehls will bring good jobs (probably with benefits only a larger
corporation can afford) and they will make it or not depending on whether or not
people patronize their business.   Let their fate be decided by the market not
by government fiat.
10:53 pm est 

Austin Knight Recall

The petition, as written, says that it's for the recall of "Austin
Knight, Chairperson of the Provincetown Board of Selectmen".

Since Austin isn't the Chairperson anymore, would the petition then be invalid?

Maybe the petition needs to be updated, by referring to Austin as a member of
the Board of Selectmen, and then get the 50 signatures again.
I'd hate for the process to be called invalid because of a minor technicality.
10:50 pm est 

From Rehoboth Newspaper:

"In her time there, Lynn helped the town expand its wastewater system and
treatment plant, working with GHD, the same engineer overseeing Rehoboths
on-going wastewater project."

10:48 pm est 

Recall Signatures

The Cape Cod Times in the recent past had an article about provincetown being
ripped apart.

I wonder if this recall petition is just more of the same
and after The chair of the selectmen, are they then going to go after the head
of the library, and then PTV and on and on and on.

This is what Provincetown has turned into.
10:45 pm est 

Re: Chains

Are any of you anti-chain posters aware of the price for retail space on
Commercial Street?  It's a wonder anyone other than high end, deep pocketed
chain stores can afford to open a new store here.  Unless you know a friendly
landlord or  have some inside connection, you can't afford to pay the rent for
retail space and  make money in such a short season.

I just had a brainstorm.  Why don't we have an affordable retail space summit. 
We can ask the town to increase taxes quite a bit" (only on second home owners
of course) in order to buy up space on Commercial Street and make a few retail
storefronts and maybe a restaurant or two.  Then we could have a lottery and the
winners could get the space for a rate much lower than market rate as long as
they didn't open a chain store or restaurant.  After say 5 years they get the
boot and a new lottery can be held to make way for new stores/restaurants.  If
the original business people couldn't make it enough to be able to afford market
rate after five years they shouldn't be in business anyway.

More businesses mean more jobs mean more people who want to work can work.
5:26 pm est 

Vincent Currier - Recall Signataries

Folllowing is a copy of the original petition wording with the
signatories.....thank you one and all!

Town of Provincetown
Recall Affidavit  

We, the undersigned voters of the Town of Provincetown, file the attached
affidavit with the Town Clerk in conformance with the requirements of Section
10-1-1 of the Town Charter. This affidavit seeks the recall of Austin Knight,
Chairman of the Provincetown Board of Selectmen, and enumerates the following
specific grounds for such recall:

We no longer have confidence in Austin Knights honesty and character. Austin
Knight has broken the Provincetown Charter and the Election Laws (G.L.C. 268A
Section 23(b)(c) and others) by knowingly giving campaign material to the Chief
of Police and/or other policemen, and allowing his campaign posters to be taken
to the Police Station and distributed from there, so as to inappropriately
influence Town employees and other voters in the May 7, 2013 Selectmen Election.
While the complete effect of police involvement in the election will never be
known, it cannot be certain that the election was free and fair. Therefore,
voters should have a free election to decide if Austin Knight has the sound
judgment needed to remain on the Board of Selectmen.

Jon S. Groves
Ann Marie Boni
Laura Yingling
Jane Kogan
Barbara Rushmore
Duane A. Steele
James Palacino
Peter Macara
Vincent M. Currier
Ilene Charles
Katherine J. Baltivik
Peter F. Demers
David Bishop
Steven D. Lyons
Catherine Russo
Clarence L. Walker, Jr.
Michael Canizales
Eric L. Engstrom
Richard P. Keeling
Marcene Marcoux
Thomas Tannariello
Myra Gold
Estelle Goldberg
Katherine Reed
Josiah Mayo
James E. King
Susan Mitchell
Patricia Doyle
Donna R. Cooper
Louis L. Lima
Jerome Crepeau
Tony T. Sampson
Nathaniel Block
Sacha Richter
Erin Barrepski
Jennifer Germack
Vida Hamnquist
Raphael Richter
Cathy Brovillet
Edward Dusek
Richard Goldberg
Herbert T. Hintze
Robert Harrison
Larry Mahan
Thomas Hochard
Silvia M. Newman
Jo-Ell Gutzler
Eric Roberts
Anna Carter
Amber Lord
Michael A. Lord
Nathaniel Mayo
Stanley Sikorski
Richard Campbell
Claudia Couper
William Erlandson
Eva Sikorski
Helen Haunstrup
Anton V. Haunstrup
Peter Page
Mark Hatch
Lydia Hamnquist
Sue C. Ogden
Valerie Martin
Katherine S. Reis
Dieter M. Groll
Neal F. Kimball
5:14 pm est 

Vincent Currier

We have received permissioin from NAPI'S RESTAURANT to hold signature gathering
meetings at the historic restaurant for the next three consecutive weeks! We
will be at the restaurant from 12 to 2 on each Monday and Tuesday for the next
three weeks.

1.) Monday and Tuesday, January 20 and 21, 2014.....12 to 2

2.) Monday and Tuesday, January 27 and 28, 2014......12 to 2

3.) Monday and Tuesday, February 3 and 4, 2014......12 to 2

You can come to the restaurant and drop off your signed petition, pick up a
petition, sign a petition, or just say hello and ask any questions you may have
about the recall. If there is anything I can do to make it easier to sign, or
answer questions, please call me at 508-487-2163.
5:11 pm est 

Ausrtin Knight - Recall

What good does it do for Austin to quit the Chair's position, but not
the Selectman's?
 
The petition is for his recall as Selectman, NOT recall as Chairperson.

5:09 pm est 

Re: Keep Chains Out - Provincetown Difference

You mean chains like Marc Jacobs, Cuffy's, Cumby's (two of them here)
Stop and Shop, Tedeschis, Ace Hardware (two of them here) and Radio Shack?

Add to this list of chains 12 more:
Mac's, Seamen's, Ben & Jerry's, True Value Hardware, Kinlin Grover, Sotheby's,
TD Bank, Bank of America, Coldwell Banker, Century 21, UPS and REMAX
There's only one Cumby's in town, though.
5:06 pm est 

Jobs Jobs Jobs

Since I was a kid the focus has been on how do we bring employment, year
round--or now any jobs to town.

Yahoo..A big store with heavy, deep, unending pockets of money wants to open a
store here.

We just had a Jobs Summit--or was that a way to bring in more customers for the
bars and restaurants so the owners make more money?

Now a Retail Store wants to come here and open up and hire people. Isn't that
what everyone on all of the face book pages is talking about? What has been
talked about for decades?

It will be a first rate store because they will have the money to pay people a
good wage etc etc

Oh, but they are a chain, Heaven fore fend! Not like the ice cream store, the
little gas station stores, the big grocery store, Laugh out loud.

Leave it to the people who are yelling the loudest for affordable housing and
condensing second home owners and call landlords villains to be against a store
that will provide employment.

First they run the town manager and chief of police out of town and now any
store that isn't owned by a friend of the malcontents.
5:04 pm est 

Kiehl's

After they spend the local competition out of business we're sure to end up with
more high-paying jobs.
4:25 pm est 

Re: Keep Chains Out - Provincetown Difference

PT is different from so many other places because it chooses to not be
the same.  So a little enlightenment.  Of all the store you mentioned only two
are on Commercial and neither is a national chain of 'Cookie cutter" look -a
-likes.  Marc Jacobs is a world renowned designer and has very few shops other
than 1 in Boston and 1 in PT.  Cuffy's is strictly Cape Cod.  Personally I wish
that it were not on Commercial, but it, again, is not a national chain made from
a cookie cutter.  Cumbie's is a new England chain that has not tried to make
everything look alike.  Neither place is on Commercial.  Ace is the name of a
national hardware supple  system.  They do not own the store here and again it
is not  a look a like nor on Commercial.  True Value(Land's End) is on
Commercial but is not a chain but merely an outlet for a national supply
company.  The store has it's own look and flavor.  Stop and Shop is not on
Commercial and is there not a tourist attraction but to ser!
ve the community.  In short, your argument to accept anybody who has the money
in hand because we already do, falls rather short when looked at critically as
to how it really measures up to what we are.  People come to PT during the
season because PT is different.  All you may care about is the money now, but
there won't be any money tomorrow unless we can continue as we are as much as we
can for as long as we can.
4:20 pm est 

Re: Keep Chains Out

"Corporatization" is our Salvation!

Amen to the poster who criticized Carolyn Kramer for  failing to hold the line
when A&P moved to Shankpainter Road mere decades ago. And more recently, when
Tedeschi's took over the Mobil station. There is NO threat of corporate blight
in our town. At worst, it's like what Fox News says about global warming. Even
if there is a problem, which there isn't, it's too late to stop. Global warming
might even be a good thing if it speeds up the Biblical Rapture. Don't let the
Kiehl's-hating hippies get in the way of Provincetown's own corporate Rapture!

-- The Welfare "Queen"
4:12 pm est 

Re: Keep Chains Out

You mean chains like Marc Jacobs, Cuffy's, Cumby's (two of them here) Stop and
Shop, Tedeschis, Ace Hardware (two of them here) and Radio Shack?  If you don't
want to shop there then you don't have too.

I say let Kiehls pay the high retail rents and open a store giving a few locals
a job for the summer.  If you think a cosmetic store will make town look like a
mall you should get out more often.

I think we should welcome businesses that want to fill a vacant store front and
hire people not shoo them away.  Besides most of the money they make will be
from seasonal homeowners and tourists.  I doubt that many of affordable housing
crowd will be shopping at a  high end cosmetics shop. I know I won't.
2:51 pm est 

Re: Kiehls is Coming!!!

I know nothing about Kiehl's and don't need what they sell.  The same
for Kiss and Make-up. If Kiehl's is a national or international chain with the
same look and feel as stores all over the world,  We should not want to look
like a shopping mall with every store he same as in every mall in the country. 
We have kept chains out and should continue.
2:21 pm est 

Re: Kiehls is Coming!!!

Carolyn Kramer

Where were you when Tedeschis took over the old Mobil station and decided to
compete with Cumberlands? Where were you when the A&P decided to get much bigger
and go out on Shankpainter, competing with the other Cumberlands? Where were you
when the Monument barbershop decided to open shop and compete with Burrs? Just
because it's your buddy means nothing. If it's a good shop, she will survive and
possibly get bigger and better. If not, what kind of game was being pulled there
to begin with?
1:24 pm est 

Re: Kiehls is Coming!!!

And now after all the talk about job shortages in Provincetown,
someone wants to stop jobs from being created! This sounds like some people do
not want to get off unemployment.
11:54 am est 

Housing Summit Propaganda

How is it that all of these folks living here 10, 15, 20 years and paying the
going Market rent suddenly need the taxpayers to subsidize their living here?

Read the post from the person who lives here and works here and who is almost 70
years old. This goes for other people I know here as well.

Something is askew and the fact is that all of these people feel entitled to
live here because they want to live here and they want the taxpayer to help
support them.

I want a boat--yooo hooo taxpayers--buy me a boat

I want a 7 course meal at a 5 star restaurant for $5.00--yoo hoo--Mr and Mrs tax
payer..subsidize me.

I want to live in the lovely resort town of Provincetown--yoo hoo mr. and Mrs
taxpayer support me.

This is what it sounds like when you want to against the wishes of town meeting
take our buildings and give them away to developers.
10:14 am est 

Re: Kiehls is Coming!!!

A couple of things.

-First of all competition is a good thing.
-Second, what if Kiehl's (or any business) brings jobs to town?  Isn't having
more jobs brought to town better than trying to stop everything?  Tell the
person who is struggling to make ends meet that you want to keep businesses out
of town.
9:39 am est 

Re: Anti-business Petition

Why would you start a petition to prevent a business from opening up in town? 
This is supposed to be a free country.  If a business wants to give it a go in
town, rent some space, hire a few local employees why would you be against that?

I get it you want to protect your friends business.  But, why should the
government get involved with protecting one business over another in a free
market, especially over something as unnecessary  (except for vanity and maybe
stage work)  as cosmetics.

If your friends store provides a good or maybe unique product at a decent price
they will survive.  If they cant survive a little competition then maybe they
havent earned the right to stay in business.  Whats next a petition to stop the
Stop and Shop  from selling cosmetics?

I have nothing good or bad to say about Kiss and Make-up.  I don't patronize
them and won't patronize the proposed store either.   I get whatever skin care
and hygiene products I need at the S&S.   I just believe government should not
pick and choose which businesses have a right to operate based on chauvinistic
or xenophobic reasoning.  If you were trying to preserve a needed commodity that
was in danger of leaving town thats one thing I might support.  Using the strong
arm of government solely to protect the interests of your friends be they local
or not is another thing altogether.
9:36 am est 

Choice is Mine, Not Yours

I work 75-85 hours a week, from Mid June till the end of October.   I am almost
70 yrs old.  I have never complained.  Been living in Provincetown for about 15
years  (I do not own) and vacation the rest of the time far away.   I have never
asked for a handout.  I do not collect unemployment.  I save enough to live
comfortably till I am near 100.    (I did NOT have an inheritance from any
family or ever win the lottery either)

I just hate that I only hear on this site, from the ones that can't make it. 
There are plenty of us that have made it here and are still making it here for
the short season, then click our heels and go off and relax in a warmer climate.   
Stop making Provincetown out like WE ARE ALL DOOMED
9:28 am est 

Austin Knight

Where Austin sits on the dias will be indicative of his understanding
of the shift in power...allegedly away from him...to Elaine and Tom. Many are
sure he will continue to pull Elaine's strings from behind the scene.

Austin did not admit to any wrongdoing but rather chose the 'good son' route as
the reason for resigning, ignoring the fact that he's hanging on to his BOS seat
by his fingernails.

How many times have we seen dubious and self involved politicians on the brink
of being kicked out of office say they were leaving to "spend more time with
their families".  I wish no ill on his family. Still, it is a well used ploy to
evade coming to terms with wrongdoing, and expecting applause from the
townspeople because you are the hero son. Austin is slick...but definitely small
time.
9:25 am est 

Austin Knight - Resigned as Chair

QUESTION: "Why, on the BoS dais, is Austin Knight sitting in the Vice
Chairman's position?"



Why?  So he can "instruct" Elaine what to do at the meetings.  Don't worry. 
Soon, there will be no Austin sitting anywhere around that table.
9:24 am est 

Are We That Stupid?

Hey, what's up with AK only quitting as Chair?  He needs to be
completely gone from the Board. This dude thinks we're dumb. LOL
9:21 am est 

Austin Knight

Stepping down as Chair isn't enough, Austin.  The recall is about many
voters wanting you off the BOS.  We won't be appeased with the mere crumbs of
your ceasing to be Chair.
9:19 am est 

Austin Knight - Selectman

Did Mr. Knight announce when his resignation as Selectman becomes
effective?
9:17 am est 

Austin Knight - Recall

Austin needed to resign as Selectman. He didn't.  Recall goes forward! 
Let's get someone ethical to fill that seat.
9:15 am est 

Rachel White et Austin Knight

So Rachel White commended Austin Knight for attending many of he towns
people's funerals, also implying that when he does so, he makes the rest of the
BOS look good.  Well, Rachel, I didn't see him at my mother's, or
brother-in-law's funerals.  So what criteria does he do use for choosing the
funerals he has attends?
9:14 am est 

Austin Knight et FinCom Chair

"...while Knight was chair he never ever met with the FinCom chair."


Oh, but Austin did attend some of the FinCom meetings., at which he admonished
and scolded it.  Hilarious, isn't it, with the kind of record he has?
9:09 am est 

Austin Out as Chair

With Austin out as Chair, let's Hope the Agenda starts to Be More Open

It should be a reflection of what the selectmen want to discuss, not simply one
authoritarian decision. Now, we should, I hope, see more issues that reflect all
the members, not simply Austin's wishes.
12:03 am est 

Karl Worthington

QUESTION: Why, on the BoS dais, is Austin Knight sitting in the Vice Chairman's position? Austin Knight is not Vice Chairman of the BoS. Chairman Anderson needs to tell selectman knight he's sitting in the wrong chair… and to allow Vice Chair Donegan the Vice Chair chair...
11:35 pm est 

Karl Worthington

Thank you Tom Donegan for suggesting to Chairman Anderson tonight that FinCom and BoS Chair have an occasional meeting like previous chairs have. while Knight was chair he never ever met with the FinCom chair.
11:33 pm est 

This Has and Will Happen Again

A person Chris the contented reaches 40 years old, has been renting the same apt
for ten years from someone who doesn't need a big rent and has settled into a
nice life here.

The landlord dies and the heirs go to a realtor to sell the place or to get a
market rate rent. Suddenly the world is very different, so you add on another
job when possible.

Another person I know reaches 30 years of age and says that play time is over.
It is time to move and get a serious job with benefits etc etc

Both of these situations have happened over and over in this town.

Kids born today won't have a chance to buy here because their parents can't buy
here now--but they can rent--but what will be here in 20 years?

This housing summit has put the fear of God into us about our rental property
and it is our largest investment and a handful of people will be displaced we
fear when we do sell.

We feel the pressure to do so. Sad but true. Investment property is develop-able
property. We are grandfathered so we can work something out if push comes to
shove.
11:25 pm est 

Stay Focused

The housing topic right now is subterfuge.  Let's stay focused and
recall Austin!!!
11:21 pm est 

Austin Knight

Where are things right now regarding Knight's recall?  That guy has no
business being one of our Selectmen.  That he finally stepped down is a first
step, but under no circumstances should he be one of our 5 Selectmen.
11:20 pm est 

Austin et Elaine

It was very clever for Austin to step down as chair and try to take
the sail out of his recall momentum. It was even more clever to nominate Elaine
as chair. She will be his proxy anyway,  so don't expect anything to change. She
will control the selectmen's meeting agenda, and trust me, it will be in
conjunction with what is going to be good for Austin.
11:16 pm est 

Kiehls is Coming!!!

Carolyn Kramer

Options for this story
I am starting a written and verbal petition that will be read at the Zoning
Board Meeting on January 23rd 2014, OPPOSING the opening of a Kiehls store in
Provincetown. The meeting is called: Case # FY14-40
Application by Charles M. Sabatt, Counsel and Christopher J. Snow, Co-counsel on
Behalf of Designer Fragrances and Cosmetics Company d/b/a Kiehls since 1851.
Applicant under Article 2, Section 2360 and 2362 (3) of the Zoning Bylaw seeks a
Special Permit to operate as
a retail purveyor of skin care, hair care and related cosmetic products for men
and women at the property located at 200 Commercial Street, (TCC Zoning
District), Provincetown, MA. For anyone on this thread that would like to add
their names to my petition, I am going to have a meeting at my house on January
21st, or 22nd so that you can add your name to the petition as well as your
thoughts. I am not the best writer, so if there is one of you that is in
opposition to the opening of this conglomerate who would like to collaborate
with me on writing the letter, you can email me at : carolynkramer59@aol.com The
more people we have at this meeting OPPOSING Kiehls opening in PT, the better
chance we have at 'winning' our case. And just for clarification - my argument
has absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact that L'Oreal collaborated with the
Nazi's during WW2. It is solely based on supporting our local residents.
Specifically Christine Gero Horovitz and her skin care cosmetics!
  store, Kiss and Make-up.
11:12 pm est 

Austin Knight vs Vincent Currier

Now that Austin has pulled a fast one and resigned as chair, will the
revolution continue?

Ask Vincent (legend in his own mind) Currier. Maybe he'll never have to prove
that by one mere snap of his powerful fingers,300 needed signatures for a recall
will appear. Such is a man of influence.
11:09 pm est 

Re: Multi -Family Homes

"I can see a developer going to the owners and telling them that as
owners they are grandfathered and can condo it themselves."


That day has been here for about 25 years. Where have you been? At the invisible
Mews?
11:06 pm est 

Re: Mews Restaurant

The ad posted here for The Mews Monday Night had the address in
Hyannis. The webmaster was told about the error and corrected it.  SO, it came
back from there to here.  In fact, however, the original post that told of the
error was never posted on the site and that led to the 1 sided post that made
little sense by itself.
11:04 pm est 

Tuesday, January 14, 2014

Mews Restaurant

Why? Where did the Mews Go?

I'm glad it's here too but why are you welcoming it back? It's a wonderful
restaurant and Ron Robin and Lawrence with his fine cuisine have kept this
restaurant to its high standards. so hard to do this with any business.
11:41 am est 

Multi -Family Homes

There are over 250 multi family homes. People can do what they want with their
property.

I wonder what the last multi family home in Provincetown will go for when it is
sold

I can see a developer going to the owners and telling them that as owners they
are grandfathered and can condo it themselves.

They find a developer who pays them lots of money to turn their multi family
home into condos and then the developer buys them from the owners

voila..the owners have a nice retirement nest egg and the developer has his
condos.
11:40 am est 

Think About Your Future

It was in 1980 that a woman turned to me and said,"We have been renting our
place for all of these years from our landlady who grew up here. She died and
now we have to move. I had no idea that rents were this high, it is impossible
for my family to live here now, so we have to move to Eastham."

My point in telling people to look at their lives now is that isn't it better to
move someplace that you can afford: money to pay the rent on a place with rooms
and space and storage and light and alcoves etc, money in the bank to fix an
emergency car problem; money for a vacation; money to go out to dinner on whim
or when you have a taste for something or just don't want to cook--AND NOT THINK
ABOUT THE COST??

Why struggle all of these years and then have to move anyway? I have seen this
over and over--I've had my heart broken when I was young and my friends had to
move out of town--but they said that they didn't want to struggle this much.

Talk to people: this person inherited a relative's house, this one has family
connections and several properties in town, one guy gets thousands of dollars in
the mail randomly from his family. This one works under the table while
collecting. Stay silent and listen and you will hear how lots of people are able
to stay here.

I'll tell you one thing, it isn't the people in affordable housing waiting and
waiting and waiting for their delayed pay checks who are going out to dine at
$60 a pop..just saying
11:38 am est 

Re: If Your 35

"If your 35 years old and still have to work 60 hrs a week you need to look in a
mirror because you must have squandered your youth on cigs, booze or drugs."

Are you kidding me? 35 is the perfect time to make the majority of your money
and usually a responsible person has reason to do so like a mortgage, kids, car
payments etc. 35 is just starting to turn corners in the financial world. If
you've given up trying at 35 because you're too old, you have another thing
coming. Look at the young enterprenurs in town. They are 35 or so and they are
working long hours and as a payoff, they are successful. If you think 40 hours a
week in the in-season is the right way, I guss we'll be seeing you in the next
housing lottery. You madam/sir are the one that has squandered their youth.
11:35 am est 

Wake Up Call

No one is telling anyone to leave; rather they are trying to give them a "wake
up call" is how I perceive the message to be.

Why clamor for the taxpayers to be paying for their housing if they can't make
it here.

Using money from the selling of town buildings or giving a building to a
developer for a dollar is taking money away from projects and then the onus is
on the taxpayers to pay for things out of their own pockets

The renters pay no taxes so they have no problem going to town meeting with
their wish list and demands for the taxpayers to pay.

This is how it comes off to the taxpayers in town. Housing Summit--and how the
taxpayers can fund the results. Why not just a "more ways to tax the taxpayers"
summit?
11:33 am est 

Austin Knight - BOS Meeting

"Glad That Austin Knight Resigned Tonight as Chair."

Meaningless.  He still has to resign or be recalled as a Selectman.  He doesn't
have the moral, legal or ethical wherewithal to make decisions about our town.
11:31 am est 

Re: Food For Thought

"Instead of telling others to leave maybe they should consider going
somewhere where they won't ever feel that they are being put upon by those less
fortunate."


Right on! And also, to the posters who are so smugly satisfied with their little
piece of the kingdom that talk of new taxes (used for affordable housing or not)
is seen as a threat to crumble their castle: maybe you can't afford Provincetown
either.

Taxes will go up. So if you're hanging on by your fingernails, maybe it's time
for YOU to go. Bye!
11:26 am est 

Vincent Did a Great Job
 
Yes, to get 63 notarized signatures for the recall petition for Austin Knight is
an accomplishment. and it is done.

Bravo. I look forward to the next step.
11:20 am est 

Monday, January 13, 2014

Glad That Austin Knight Resigned Tonight as Chair

Good that he is no longer chair. Good that we have a new vice chair in Tom
Donegan and then we have, without any surprise, Elaine Anderson as chair.
Whatever caused Austin Knight to resign that is good. If he hadn't resigned,
there would have been another battle and he would still be chair.

But, alas! Austin Knight is no longer chair. that is good for the town.
10:49 pm est 

Elaine Anderson vs Building Commissioner

UGGG, Elaine Anderson..thanking the Housing specialist for all the
hard work she does for the 'little' people. I don't know who gives the best non
answers, the housing specialist or the building commissioner.
10:47 pm est 

Food For Thought

I hate the thought of PT losing a single person that makes it such a
special place, but it seems that there are a lot of folks that really don't like
it here anymore because of the very different kind of economic situation we
have.  Instead of telling others to leave maybe they should consider going
somewhere where they won't ever feel that they are being put upon by those less
fortunate.  There may be places where you get to keep everything you earn and
never get asked to contribute to the common good. Texas and Idaho and Wyoming
are all nice places with lots of folks who resent helping others.  You might fit
right in and feel more comfortable getting some space between you and the
moochers who so annoy you.  Give it some thought.
10:45 pm est 

If Your 35

If your 35 years old and still have to work 60 hrs a week you need to look in a
mirror because you must have squandered your youth on cigs, booze or drugs.
10:43 pm est 

The Mews

Glad to have the Mews back in town.  Love the place when I can scape
the $$ together.
10:41 pm est 

Re: It's About Choice

"You are absolutely right.  It is about choices.  I chose to work 60
hours a week and save my money for a down payment on a place to live and to be
able to afford the mortgage.  You chose to work hard in the summer then spend
that money to head to for warmer climates the winter."


I think this person hit the nail on the head. People are free to do whatever
they want with their lives (within the limits of the law) and you have every
right to work four months a year, collect unemployment for the rest of the year
and travel and party all winter. However, most of the people I know who do this
are pretty poor planners, to the extent that their "summer money" usually runs
out mid March (hey, them cocktails in Mexico are expensive!) and they are
desperately looking for odd jobs until their summer work kicks in.

Your lifestyle is none of my business, but if this is how you choose to live,
don't expect financial support from the community when you suddenly decide you
want to own a house in Provincetown and pay as little as possible for it with
hardworking local taxpayers subsidizing it for you. Again, not my business, not
my problem.
10:37 pm est 

Re: Vincent Currier Email

Please give me a break.  You got inundated by the response...Really???  It took
you three days to gather 61 signatures half of which were gathered at a New
Year's Eve party filled with like minded individuals.  The third day you got 4
whole signatures.  By the way, have you submitted them to the town clerk for
verification yet?

Instead of grandstanding on here (by posting your email to Austin) submit the 61
signatures for verification, once verified get the petitions circulating, then
when you have three hundred verified signers within the allotted 20 days the
town clerk will put it to Austin whether or not to resign.

Until you get to the next step (gathering the 300 registered voters' signatures
within twenty days)  your words are nothing but bluff and bluster significant of
nothing.
10:35 pm est 

Goodbye Mr. Knight

Please  enough about Mr. Knight goodbye !!   Elaine Anderson go to oz
and ask da wizzard fer a brain  u should leave also your a puppet on a string  
wake up townies lets get this right this time !!!!!
5:38 pm est 

Will He Still Be Chair?

Tell me why these five selectmen will act differently than they did weeks back?
why, indeed!

I see the same three votes, including himself for himself, and two against. He
should not be chair but that is just a complaint, not a vote to alter the
embarrassing and rather immoral situation.
5:35 pm est 

For Certain, Affordable Housing is Complex

No easy answers. It is especially hard and challenging when you live in a
tourist town and an expensive town. Options diminish for those with limited
resources. that is how it is and it is hard to turn that around.

Again, no easy answers. Perhaps just a repeat of the past.
5:32 pm est 

It's About Choice

There are families here struggling desperately; hanging on with their finger
nails--and they aren't going to Mexico for 2 months.

There is a big push for teeny tiny houses and I can just a couple living moving
into one in May and then  being at each others throats come August.

What a way to live. No seasonal storage, no privacy, no really comfortable
lounging worthy furniture.

Work you 60 hours in the summer now. Lets say your are 35 years old working 60
hours a week..and when you are 40 years old, 45 years old 50 years old-are you
going to be working 80 hours a week? And When you are 60 years old?

I know folks bemoaning the fact that they always worked partially under the
table their whole adult lives. One owns property and went and got a reverse
mortgage as soon as they could--Its not the care free living they thought that
it would be. That old unintended consequence thing.
5:29 pm est 

Sorry But Why Will Tonight be Different?

Why won't there be a three to two vote for Austin Knight being chair. He will
vote for himself believing he is the best and most ethical. McChesney will vote
for Austin and so will Elaine Anderson. I see a three for and two against a new
chair and nothing has changed.
5:25 pm est 

Re: Lives of Desperation

Right. And you'll still be a "concern troll." Spare us your demoralizing
propaganda, Tokyo Rose.
5:21 pm est 

Reading Postings

I wonder how many people read these postings or copy and paste them on their
face book pages?

Over the last few days I was just reading hundreds and hundreds of postings on a
face book page.

Hundreds of other people were reading them too. It is words interacting with
words--no faces or expressions--just people's thoughts about subjects all pooled
together. Some folks pull no punches--so unaware how it makes them seem to be.

And yet it casts a certain patina over these people. I'm very glad that this
page is anonymous.
5:20 pm est 

Re: "Lives of desperation...."
 
You're forgetting that anybody who has lived in ptown for the
Last 20 years never thought that the town would turn into
What it has become.
Along with the money came the attitude and it's all me.
The full time residents now live [in] pockets of town, crowded out
By condos. And people who stay a few years, then leave.
This is community???

I can remember years ago,walking on the moors in Truro,then came
The high priced homes,my memory now being yelled at for trespassing.
The beauty of ptown has been overshadowed by the dollar and
The community is lost.
5:18 pm est 

Vincent Currier

A copy of my inarticulate, but heartfelt e-mail to Austin Knight this
morning....
Resign from Office
Vince Currier 9:03 AM
To: aknight@provincetown-ma.gov
From: Vince Currier (currier1@live.com)
Sent: Mon 1/13/14 9:03 AM
To: aknight@provincetown-ma.gov (aknight@provincetown-ma.gov)
I am writing to urge you to voluntarily step down as Chairman of the Board of
Selectmen, and as a Selectman representative of our Town in general.
I believe you have sullied the office, and have caused much disarray and
confusion in the office, thereby losing the confidence of your constituents. It
is only a matter of time before you are taken out, it is time for you to admit
that the inevitable will happen and we will remove you by popular vote.
I was a leader in the gathering of names for your recall, for Provincetown and
your future and was inundated with the response. Collecting the additional
aproximately 300 names will NOT be a problem, and mustering voter turn-out will
be a cinch. It behooves you to realize the mood of the majority of the voters
and to step down and save face for not only yourself, but your family and
supporters and our wonderful Town.
Please consider doing the right thing and volunteerily stepping down from the
office we have proven you are no longer capable of serving effectively in.
Vincent M. Currier
72 Franklin Street
Provincetown, Ma., 02657
508-487-2163
5:15 pm est 

Vincent Currier

Tonight at the Board of Selectmen Meeting there will be a motion put forth
voting to depose Austin Knight as Chairman of the Board of Selectmen.
No matter how one feels about Mr. Knight, and he has done many good things for
our Town, the lack of morals and the result of that lack of morals and bad
judgement have made it clear he is no longer fit to Chair our governing body.
I ask everyone who cares about our Town to send Mr. Knight a short and heartfelt
e-mail asking him to consider the bigger picture and not his own selfish agenda.
Please send a message, it does make a difference.
aknight@provincetown-ma.gov
5:14 pm est 

Dead on the Money!!

These two posts are exactly right.

Lives of Desperation

It's About Choices!
5:12 pm est 

Austin vs Elaine

Why is anyone surprised at Elaine Andersons show of support for Austin
Knight by explaining he was visiting a "sick parent"?"

So unless Elaine knowingly lied to cover for Austin's absence, Austin once again
threw someone under the bus.
5:11 pm est 

People's Freedoms

Now you want to stop property owners from selling to someone who might want to
develop their property. This isn't a communist state where you get to control
what I own.

This affordable housing mafia that wants to control our lives and dictate to us
that everything must be geared to what makes their lives better and what
enriches the developers must somehow be halted.

As someone posted--what is mine is mine and what is yours is mine. This attitude
pervades a certain section of this town.

We are not here working hard for our tax dollars to provide housing for
people--we live and WORK here in pursuit of our happiness--why should I be
forced to pay for other people to live here just because they feel ENTITLED to
live--again read close-THEY FEEL ENTITLED TO LIVE HERE AT OUR EXPENSE--and THEY
want to be provided for by the taxpayers.

Lets start a Provincetown Homeowners Association to protect what we earn and
work for to serve ourselves and our families and not the developers.
5:08 pm est 

Re: Lives of Desperation

Kinda weird stuff. DO you really think that everybody is like you? 
Does everyone have the same intellectual and emotional wherewithal to plan their
life like you say they should?  Was everyone afforded the cultural background,
education and support as you?  Does everyone enjoy good physical and mental
health?

If you agree that we are all different with varying degrees of ability to lead
ideal lives, then start to think about life the way it is rather than the way it
is for you.  Not all who are on the back side of prosperity are lazy and
deliberately uninterested in the future.  Imagine if a successful athlete were
tell you how inferior you are because you don't a lot of money throwing or
hitting a baseball or hitting a golf ball. Does that lack of ability make you
lazy or inferior?  I never could play tennis like Venus Williams.  I wished that
I could, but I am not a bad person because I can't.
5:05 pm est 

Lives of Desperation

All of the people so desperate for affordable housing..you need to examine your
lives and why you are allowing yourself to live here under such desperate
circumstances.

Where will you be 15, 20 years from now--if you are EVEN still in town? You will
have no equity, minor social security when you are in your sixties and you will
look back on a life lived in desperation.

Anyone standing back and observing this situation can only shake their head and
tell you to move and get a life sustaining life style that is only positive and
not one of desperation.

you will grow older and bitter. You will be lashing out at others in town who
are well off, you will be quietly or loudly seething saying tax the rich, demand
housing from folks who bought their homes and have choices that you have denied
yourself do to your self imposed poverty.

I can only feel sad for you because the years will pass you will be clamoring
again and again and again for a "housing summit" and the results will be the
same. There is no magic wand. You need to realize that you can't live and thrive
in a place that you can't afford--plain and simple--just saying
9:19 am est 

It's About Choices!

You are absolutely right.  It is about choices.  I chose to work 60 hours a week
and save my money for a down payment on a place to live and to be able to afford
the mortgage.  You chose to work hard in the summer then spend that money to
head to for warmer climates the winter.  Now as you head into the winter of your
life you expect others to subsidize your rent through higher and higher taxes.


My mortgage is paid off as I aproach the winter of my life.  I have a nice place
to call home in a place i love and worked hard for.  Now I'd like to collect the
dividends of my hard work and head south for the winter.  My pension and savings
will allow me to do this but not for very long if I have to pay more and more in
property taxes for people like you who chose to live it up instead of taking
care of priorities like housing first.

And no i'm not jealous or bitter.  I just want to enjoy what I WORKED FOR,
instead of paying for others who made different choices.
9:15 am est 

Re: "To the Post on Affordable Fees"

I know for a fact that on occasion, developers of affordable housing and other
major projects get breaks on their fees and sometimes they are waved.
8:53 am est 

Re: Austin Knight

Why is anyone surprised at Elaine Andersons show of support for Austin Knight by
explaining he was visiting a "sick parent"? Elaine does not have a brain or
original thought in her head. She does what others tell her to either say or do.
"Not the brightest bulb in the box"!
8:47 am est 

Sunday, January 12, 2014

That's My Choice, Your Choice is Your Own

I work over 60 hours a week during the summer. Why shouldn't I be able
to go to Mexico for two months? How does that effect you beyond being jealous?
Many of the other folks in affordable housing can't do this...but I know how to
save and make it work. its not all about affordable housing. its working
hard,budgeting and going somewhere cheap.

So many people sit and stew in their bitterness watching what others have while
not changing their own fortune. the taxes we're all paying now have little to do
with affordable housing. and yes I pay taxes,even as a renter. although I won't
get credit for it, I pay my share. I'm the one that delivers your burgers and
wine nine months out of the year. that's my choice. your choice is your own.
9:51 pm est 

"To the Post on Affordable Fees"

I'm a contractor and I pay hefty fees for my permits. Can someone tell us if its
the same for the developlers for affordable housing?
9:47 pm est 

I do Agree

Out with the old and please let us not have those who were "leaders" of the town
ten years back and ten years forward. Enough is enough. You had your chance and
you were at the helm of this ship. but this ship sank many years ago. We do not
need the Whydah Museum here. we need new ideas, new people, new perspectives.

It is, without doubt, time for change. Let the change begin!
7:49 pm est 

Ted Malone Employees

OK, you want names? I'll print them, but the web master will just put a line
through them. The                 boy friend worked for Ted and then the        
       and his boyfriend got allegedly have  a nice house in TRuro...where are
the affordable housing units now?

His former employee               his employee and a member of the          
         --what a conflict of interest.

Not all homeowners are rich. Many work side by side with folks screaming for
affordable housing. The screamers go away in the winter to warm climates and
live a life of self induced poverty.

Ask                  about the interviews she had with folks who wanted year
round jobs--but who wanted Jan and February off. Ask the person who formerly
worked at the unemployment office. He will tell you when a restaurant owner went
through the line asking people if they wanted to work years ago...


7:10 pm est 

Second Home Owners

Absolutely do not alienate the rich or second home owners! They are
the ones that already provide what off season employment we have as well as
support all businesses in summer. They should be encouraged by lower taxes or
what ever else it takes to attract more of them here. I thank them all for the
quality of life we have. Can you imagine what a state we would be in if we did
not benefit from them and their taxes?
5:20 pm est 

Looking For New Leadership

and I hope we do get new leaders with new ideas. Out with the old---and in with
the new. We need new directions and new, fresh ideas.

Again, out with the old.
5:19 pm est 

Austin Knight

Austin's problem is that he thinks no one is watching. This is and
always has been a small town. To believe you're invisible and send an emissary
(or fool) to a very public meeting to state you are 'with your sick mother" is
pure buffoonery. Really Austin, are you losing your touch?
5:17 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

Soon the composition of the town will become: occasionally used houses
of the ultra rich, seasonal rentals of condos by second home owners, and those
struggling in the affordable housing units. Squeezed out: middle to low income
homeowners not able to afford the taxes or the cost of the town. Big losers as
well: those trying to rent year round...because property owners can't subsidize
tenants who can't afford the rents as they increase.

Also, to the person claiming much of the affordable housing stock has been given
to Ted Malone's staff or hangers on...prove it or stop posting. This assertion
is getting mighty stale.
5:16 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing Distraction


The point of affordable housing is to build a sustainably diverse populace that
will help the town help itself. Please let's not lose sight of that.

Affordable housing more often than not is going to people that don't work. They
get their checks and money from gov. programs, ie. welfare, soc. security,
disability etc.. How is this helping the town?
5:13 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing Distraction

Re:  "The point of affordable housing is to build a sustainably diverse populace that
will help the town help itself."


How does building more and more taxpayer subsidized housing help the town help
itself?  I'd really like to understand your thought process behind that
statement.  I see it as having the opposite effect.  Constantly raising taxes on
homeowners so that people who wish they could live here but can't afford to is
not fair.

  Someone already made the point but I'll repeat it.   I want to live atop
beacon hill.  I wish I could get a housing committee to tax those greedy rich
people who can afford to live there to help me buy an affordable unit on beacon
street across from the common.  They are rich. Its only fair they should pay for
me.  I want, I want, I want. Gimmee, gimmee, gimee.
4:52 pm est 

Re: "The Reality of the Situation"

Why is it someone elses responsibilty to make sure you have a place to live? Why
isn't it your responsibility? The apartment you rented was owned privately and
the owner has no responsibility to you. You want year round apartments? Apply
for a place that is town owned affordable housing. Those stay rentals forever
like on Shankpainter. Otherwise, you may have to leave town if you can't afford
to stay. My inlaws owned their home in town and sold because it became too
expensive to live in town. Thats the way life goes.
12:00 pm est 

Housing Summit - Burden the Taxpayers

Interesting, the housing summit is focused on making the taxpayers pay more.
Town meeting voted to sell the buildings and have the money help pay for a new
police station rather than make all of the money come from the taxapyers--the
housing summit folks pay no taxes they want the town to give it to a developer
for dollar. The result is the taxes go up for the taxpayers.

Taxes will go up and up and up as the housing summit puts the burden on the
taxpayers to fund the housing for the housing summit people.

No two ways about it. You own property in Provincetown--be prepared to have your
taxes go up and up and up as you will soon be at the whim of the housing summit.
Taxpayers are their cash cow. SOUNDS like time to sell.
11:57 am est 

Affordable Housing

OMG .... Surely we can't aliienate the rich......
Don't you get it..... This is the problem with your quaint village.
11:53 am est 

Affordable Housing - Taxes

What ever happened to the promises and promises and promises that were sold us
on our taxes being lowered when we gave up the Cape End Manor to Seashore Point? 
We tax payers were all told over and over again that this project going private
was definitely going to be beneficial to us taxpayers because we would see lower
taxes now that we no longer would have to subsidize the manor.  Yeh - right,
nothing but our taxes increasing and now they want us to continued to support
affordable housing.  No one gave us cheaper rent - my partner and I both worked
to purchase our home.  Now we are elderly and finding it more and more difficult
to stay here. What does the town gain in affordable housing?  Are fees
collected?
11:20 am est 

Affordable Housing Distraction

As someone barely hanging on, I resent the argument in recent posts that
affordable housing is taxpayer welfare for big businesses on Commercial St. Is
that potentially a byproduct? Yes. But most of their employees seem to be
seasonal immigrants, not the typical affordable housing owner now. The point of
affordable housing is to build a sustainably diverse populace that will help the
town help itself. Please let's not lose sight of that.
10:59 am est 

Developers Are Not the Solution to Affordable Housing

We have had developers developing our land for the last fifteen years. Look at
ted Malone. Look at the monies that the CP has given him in these many years.
How much for the Meadows?  Was it $800,000? then $150,000 or $200,000 for the
old Clem & Ursie's houses on Shankpainter. then $750,000 for the Bates Motel
which he now manages and then CPC offered $800,000 for Ted Malone's Nelson
Avenue property.

And what have we received from this? Not much. What has he received? Big time
profits and houses for his staff which he funded with our CPC monies. If someone
worked for Ted Malone, then they received housing--yes, affordable housing as
their names were mysteriously picked out of the hat. What a surprise. And for
those who dated Ted Malone's staff members, well another surprise as they also
"received" an affordable housing unit.

Yes, another miracle as their names were picked out of the hat! What a
surprise!

You'd have to be a fool to believe that the same system can now produce
different outcomes. It can't.

Developers develop and the town gets little but they get much. and few gain with
truly affordable housing.
12:35 am est 

Photo by Dan McKeon, January 2, 2014

"It is so lovely, so quiet and there is a beauty in its utter
simplicity."


At least two of the shops pictured have just gone out of business. I'm sure they
love the quiet.
12:31 am est 

Re: Austin Knight - Housing Summit

"At Friday's Housing Summit Elaine Anderson made excuses for Austin
Knight's absense saying that he was in Connectticut with he his sick mother. He
was in fact in Provincetown all day invovled in masonic lodge activities.
Using a (possibly?) sick mother as a poltical prop is a sleazy trick."



This is typical behavior for this guy.  Can't wait to see him gone.  Din 'taxer
how many green beers on St. Patrick's he buys town voters!
12:29 am est 

Increased Tax Burden From Housing Summit

The taxpayers in this town are frightened that the focus of our town government
will on be on Affordable housing and homeowners be dammed.

Selling Town Buildings, raising taxes, overbuilding our already dense
neighborhoods, filling in the town with monstrosities such as we have seen on
the back end of Bangs Street.

Our town is being ripped from us and delivered on a platter to developers.Rich
Business owners with vast real estate holdings now are advocating that taxpayers
pay for housing for their staff.

When do the homeowners gather for a summit demanding a reduction in our taxes
rather than raising them to support other people. All you want to do is make
life harder for us and our children.
12:27 am est 

Re: Raise Taxes on the Taxpayers

"Where will Provincetown get the money for all of this..from the
TAXPAYERS. And the taxpayers have to pay..they will be outvoted at town meeting
by the unhappy folks..."


This post is alarmist in nature and misguided. You took some of the
ideas...ideas! discussed and turned them into the end solution for affordable
housing.It was a discussion.

i would rather have a portion of my tax dollars...already collected for housing
and land preservation, go towards these items rather than build an elaborate and
oversized new police palace. Thank God that got stopped in its tracks. We would
have turned into a police state and had tickets given out like candy to support
it. I liked Sharon until I heard she had the funds earmarked from selling town
owned buildings to build the new police station. Talk about tone deaf.
12:14 am est 

Saturday, January 11, 2014

Re: Work on Commercial Street.

If you want to know when, then call the dpw

if you need such specific information and not only a warning of work to come,
then call the dpw and they'll give you all the details you seeking. simple
enough.
1:43 pm est 

Raise Taxes on the Taxpayers

What the housing summit has accomplished is this: Taxpayers be prepared to go
into debt as your taxes are raised astronomically to pay for all of the housing
cartel's demdands

The affordable housing cartel wants to the taxpayers to buy the VFW lot and turn
it over to affordable housing developers.

They want to raise taxes on second home owners. They want to tell you what to do
with your property.

They want to take property already voted on to be sold--and give it to a
developer for one dollar.

They want us to pay for housing for businesses in town.


Where will Provincetown get the money for all of this..from the TAXPAYERS. And
the taxpayers have to pay..they will be outvoted at town meeting by the unhappy
folks who have to rent because they can never afford to be able to buy their own
place in Provincetown.
1:41 pm est 

Re: "The Reality of the Situation"

We have a housing director and we now have a Town Planner. Perhaps between thse
two well paid positions they can come up with solutions on now to address our
affordable housing situation because some of us are finding it difficult to
remain here because of the lack of yearround hosing.  The last yearround
apartment I had of 3 years my landlord decided to sell leaving me with having to
take a windter rental and saty with friends during the summer months.  What
would I have don if I had pets and children?
1:37 pm est 

Housing Summit - Austin Knight

                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                
                                                                                                               
At Friday's Housing Summit Elaine Anderson made excuses for Austin Knight's absense
saying that he was in Connectticut with he his sick mother. He was in fact in
Provincetown all day invovled in masonic lodge activities.

Using a (possibly?) sick mother as a poltical prop is a sleazy trick.
1:35 pm est 

Housing Summit Work Group Solutions

WORK FORCE HOUSING: Let business owners supply housing for their employees.

NEW CONSTRUCTION: let the developers buy the Grace G. building, the community
center (or business owners for work force housing) and let them create the
affordable housing.

THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX: let the affordable housing developers use the profits
from their other housing developments to fund their new money-making housing
developments.

Stop making the taxpayers fund housing for other people just because they want
to live in a small town surrounded by water and land that can't be developed.
Provincetown has Premium Property and prices won't be going down.
1:28 pm est 

Work Force Housing

My friends who live on Nantucket tell me that the businesses that employ a
certain number must provide housing for their employees.

Why should Provincetown taxpayers have to have their taxes raised so that work
force housing can be bought to house employees for the businesses lining
Commercial Street?

Businesses can raise the cost of a cocktail or a meal..senior citizens and
families can't-they have to get another job as their taxes keep going up to buy
land for housing.
1:24 pm est 

Airport Commission


Why did Jeff Jaran not re-up his spot on the commission?

Has he given up on Provincetown?
1:21 pm est 

Housing Summit Land
 
I guess that the term now is summit land. In HOUSING summit land, the taxpayers
will bear the costs to pay for the housing for other folks to live here.

Let the taxpayers buy more and more land, let the taxpayer turn over more and
more town owned property to developers--that is these are the rules we must abid
if we are to live in HOUSING SUMMIT LAND. (previously known as Provincetown).
1:00 pm est 

Friday, January 10, 2014

The Reality of the Situation

This is an Expensive town with Expensive Restaurants and Expensive
Homes

Who should be surprised that there is a problem finding affordable housing?
should it amaze anyone? And as the town continues to get richer and richer,
those who are poorer and poorer will find this town too expensive to live in.
Seems like that's the equation. and those who try to find solutions to the
problem, the housing director and the housing report  writer and the developers
are the ones who make money trying to "solve" the problem.
10:12 pm est 

BOS Meetring - Removing Austin Knight as Chair

So what Will Really happen this Monday?

Another request for Austin Knight to step down as chair and then another vote.
and voila! he remains chair. seems that's a real possibility. Expectations are
one thing. Reality another.
9:54 pm est 

Housing Summit 2014

Now that the Great Housing Summit of 2014 is over--what are the outcomes?

Are second homeowner's still safe in their beds?

Are their taxes going to go through the roof and thus rents will go through the
roof as well? (or convert to summer only even faster)?

Or is it just a lot of rushing around to discussions after more discussions,
more talk about the need for affordable housing (but not a word about year round
employment).

Was there more hang wringing about affordable housing not really being
affordable? About the families moving out of town, about the expense of living
in a resort town surrounded by nation seashore and thus real estate is at a
premium and goes for Premium Prices?

Living here all of these years, I guess that I can pretty well guess the topics
and the talking but just listening to Catherine Russo over all of these years.
9:15 pm est 

Re: Work on Commercial Street.

Rather than say that work will be in such and such an area "this week", it might be
more helpful to give dates so that people are sure.  Too often blogs are not kept up
to the minute because of any number of reasons, such as sickness, family matters,
vacations etc.  With dates we can use your great info.
10:04 am est 

Catherine Russo

To the poster that asked why she's on FINCOM?
Because you didn't apply.

She's not thinking right. The part time property owners DO pay higher taxes due
to the fact that they often own the larger more extravigant homes which are
worth more and therefore they pay more. You don't want to alienate these people.
They are the ones that put people to work in the winter by hiring painters,
carpenters, property managers to do the work the owners don't want done in
season and during the season, they are the ones hiring the landscapers and
frequenting the shops, bars and restaurants that keep people employed. THEY are
the real backbone of the community, not the yearrounders. If the yearronders
were the backbone of the community, the restaurants would stay open and the
shops would too. Catherine is dead wrong
11:19 pm est 

Thursday, January 9, 2014

Austin Knight

A reminder to Austin Knight.

EGO=Easing GOD Out

Do you remember that lesson?

A Rat In The Basement
7:15 pm est 

Dusting Off the Memories

Dusting off the memories of the by gone days..wistfully remembering the bonds of
friendship forged and how we all promised to gather each week at a different
restaurant in town and bestow upon the owner a sweat shirt emblazoned with our
slogan.

Oh the by gone days of when we were all going to gather each week all winter
long..hmm lets see, yes, it was the sentiment on the voice six weeks ago and now
Mark Hatch has been banned!
6:24 pm est 

Re: Catherine Russo

Awesome idea Catherine.  Keep fighting the good fight.
6:21 pm est 

Catherine Russo

The more Russo talks the more evident it becomes that she knows very
little about taxes and finances.  Kind of makes one wonder why she's on FinCom.
6:18 pm est 

Re: Catherine Russo - Possible New Tax Option For Housing

"...What about the 14th amendment equal
protection under the law. Does that mean nothing to you?"




Are you sure that the 14th applies to taxes?  How about income tax?  I
think that states and localities can decide just how they want to tax
themselves.  Sort of like zoning and use of you property..
6:13 pm est 

Re: Catherine Russo - Possible New Tax Option For Housing

There are no easy answers to the jobs/housing situation in Ptown.  AT
this point in time it is all about tourists, some fishing, and contractors that
support the tourist shops, restaurants etc, and the partimers.  What would we do
if everyone who is a seasonal worker left the area? Who would provide the
backbone of support?  Some say that you should leave if you can't afford to be
here.  Oh yeah?  What then?  What about the shop employees with the retail
experience.  What about the landscapers who keep things looking great for us and
tourists?  What about the servers and cooks and other experienced , skilled
hospitality workers?  Move to Truro?  Oh yeah? Plenty of low cost affordable
place to live over there.  Sure!!

This is not a simple problem and simple solutions won't work.  Ptown is way
different than it was 50 years ago when there were year round jobs for quite a
few.  We have to deal with things the way they are, not with an imagined
easy-to-fix problem.

5:38 pm est 

Re: Catherine Russo - Possible New Tax Option For Housing

Having a primary home deduction was tried in other cape towns and then
when the chaos became evident they reverted to a single tax system.  Russo's
basic assumption is wrong.  All second home owners are not wealthy.  Part time
residents add a great deal to PT.  Should wealthy people who's primary residence
is PT be taxed more?  Why just some rich people?    It can be argued that part
timers use less services so should pay less.  Imagine what would happen to real
estate values if such a two tired system were implemented.  The properties would
be more expensive to own and thus the property value would be less.  You would
see all kinds of legal challenges to have properties reassessed to reflect
market value. That means less tax revenue.  I would suggest that Russo check
with the other towns that have flirted with this silly unfair tax device. 
People who are fortunate to be able to afford expensive homes, primary or
secondary, are already paying much more in taxes than houses with the same area
and amenities but in a less desirable location.
4:02 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight - Recall

Austin Knight continues to chair the BOS meetings seemingly oblivious
to the mile high tsunami thundering in his direction. He is either incredibly
clueless or deep in denial. I mean, he did see what happened to Sharon and the
ex-Chief right?
3:59 pm est 

Re: Catherine Russo - Possible New Tax Option For Housing

"I would like to explore the possibility of raising taxes quite a bit
and giving year round home owners a deduction. We could raise quite a bit of
revenue from second home owners."


Yeah that's how you make things affordable by raising taxes "quite a bit."  As
far as non year-rounders paying more...What about the 14th amendment  equal
protection under the law.  Does that mean nothing to you?

Here's another idea you might like.  If someone leaves town for more than two
weeks of consecutive days they have to pay the higher rates you suggest for
second home owners for that tax year.  That would raise even more money to
subsidize those less fortunate.  After all if you can afford to take a greater
than two week vacation, you must be rich and should have to pay for me others to
have cheaper housing.
3:56 pm est 

Possible New Tax Option For Housing

How about placing an additional tax or an added building permit fee on those who
choose to use contractors from off Cape. Too many in this town do this and it
only adds to the lack of employment from the local population. Affordable
housing is good but not when there are no jobs here. It's time to put pressure
on these residents who spend their dollars elsewhere.
3:47 pm est 

Re: Raise Taxes - Slow Condo Development

Re: Russo's solution

Wake up and smell the coffee.  Provincetown has a mostly seasonal economy. 
There is nothing that adding additional subsidized housing is going to do to
change that except attract more people who can't really afford to live here who
will require more services we can't afford.  Without decent paying jobs you have
nothing to build a diverse community on.  Jobs come first.  The people and
housing should follow.

Russo's solution to have second homeowners pay for those who don't make enough
money to afford  a home or rent here would be funny if it wasn't so scary.

In the real world people move to where they can find work and a decent place to
live.  Sure, some people will stay in a place they can't afford as long as other
people pay the tab for them.  I am a second home owner.  I am not a second class
citizen subject to pay higher rates than others for the same services.  I pay
plenty of taxes already.  I worked hard to afford a place here and I am not
rich.  I can't afford to subsidize more and more people who want to live in the
place I busted my a** to get a foot hold in.

I don't live here year round because I have to work where the work is (off
cape).  I hope to be able to retire here eventually if people like Russo have
their way I'll have to lose my dream (from inability to afford higher and higher
taxes) so that people who haven't worked as hard (or been as lucky) and set
aside and planned can get my dream for free.

If this is an example of the thinking of the people behind the recall campaign,
I'll stick with Austin thank you.
3:45 pm est 

Re: Raise Taxes - Slow Condo Development

THIS IS WHAT CATHERINE RUSSO WANTS TO PROPOSE?!

Tax non-residents more, and residents less, fee based services,
Non-residents more, residents less......

Catherine, you're a misguided socialist who wants the power of government to
equalize income disparity. Isn't that a paradox? Catherine, find another
solution for not being able to afford the cost of living in Provincetown. I
would love to have a home in Boca Grande Florida but I can't afford it. Stop
trying to use the power of government to ease your cost in a community you can
not afford. If the cost to live there exceeds your ability to provide for your
self move to Truro. Others have, maybe it's time you did too.
12:48 pm est 

Beth O'Rourke - PTV
 11:51am Jan 9
Good morning Provincetown Lighthousers, posting to remind you to come to PTV's brainstorming session tonight at 6pm. Help us capture some of these spirited conversations for our local channel. We have heat, light snacks, and a cozy space. Join us! 330 Comm'l...
12:29 pm est 

Austin Knight

I truly believe Austin had sooooooo many opportunity's to make clear
what happeneded was WRONG  but he chose the path of DENY DENY DENY and i knew
nothing . In the real world that only gets you so far , his credibility and bad
judgement are in serious question even from those who supported him , but Ego is
an awful thing at times, its a narcissitic way of thinking you are above the
frey and can still do as you please. I think if he TRULY cared about the town as
he boasts so often he would see beyond his Ego and do the right thing and step
down completely , trust me Austin people who have voted for you do not feel u
should be there and your not doing the town any good by this attiutude you have
adopted that ' YOU WILL NOT RESIGN " you are going to be removed so let your
legacy at least be one of doing the right thing in the end. LET YOUR EGO
GO!!!!!!!!!!!
12:27 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight - Recall

That is Good News!

Getting 63 notarized signatures is not easy to do. Bravo to all who put this
together and made it a success.

Thanks for doing this.
12:24 pm est 

Re: Housing Summit

First they want to raise the taxes on second homeowners. They want to ban condo
conversions thus telling people what they can and can't do with their property.

The greed is the housing summit advocates who want people to rent out their
homes if they don't use them year round. People want to there where there aren't
jobs to support them so the taxpayers are supposed to provide.

Housing summit=what is mine is mine and what is yours is mine.
12:23 pm est 

Raise Taxes - Slow Condo Development

THIS IS WHAT CATHERINE RUSSO WANTS TO PROPOSE.
She is a member of the Finance Committe

One of the public forums that fincom is sponsoring is on taxes. I would like to
explore the possibility of raising taxes quite a bit and giving year round home
owners a deduction. We could raise quite a bit of revenue from second home
owners.

It might slow down condo conversion. For many wealthier second home owners our
tax rate is probably low. Other towns do this. We need some research.
12:20 pm est 

Austin Knight - Recall

"If you ask me, all this recall foolishness is a misguided attempt to
get Raphael Richter in office..."



It is about   ACCOUNTABILITY.   NOTHING ELSE   -   WATCH LISTEN AND SEE WHERE WE
GO FROM HERE.   JUST MY HUMBLE OPINION.  PLEASE PAY ATTENTION !! THIS IS NOT
ABOUT A MR RAPHAEL RICHTER   .   THIS IS ABOUT A MR AUSTIN KNIGHT .   END OF OUR
STORY.
12:16 pm est 

Austin Knight vs Chris Christie

Austin Knight reminds me of Chris Christie - They both know nothing.
12:15 pm est 

You Are Misguided.......Wrong

We don't need 400  people to sign the recall petition. You are a sadly [misguided] person and 
a     

Congratulations to all who worked to get the fifty signatures they needed.
Bravo! You did it and I am so proud!
12:13 pm est 

From the Provincetown Banner:

"Provincetown Community Television will hold a programming brainstorming session
at 6 p.m. Thursday, Jan. 9, at its studio on 330 Commercial St. in Provincetown.
PTVs single greatest challenge is to find community members willing to produce
local shows for channel 99. The staff at PTV is willing to make the process as
easy as possible by taping the shows, doing some minor editing, and broadcasting
them on cable and online. All are invited to join in on the conversation. Light
refreshments will be served."
12:09 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight - Recall

Who says Richter is even running if AK is brought to a recall election? This has
nothing to do with electing Richter as opposed to it having EVERYTHING to do
with removing a misguided        from a leadership role representing the town.
I'm more shocked every day seeing that AK doesn't do the right and honorable
thing and resign given the fact that this many people in town dislike what he
represents. If he goes down in a recall election, what then for him? How
embarrassing. He could hold his head up and walk out of office on his own and
not cost the town a bunch of money to hold a recall election due to his
misguided         . But no, he thinks he's better than that. He can't understand
what he's done to the town and his own reputation, what little good there is
left.
12:05 pm est 

Re: "Revisiting Past Mistakes"

Let us not forget how well dressed Mr. Porter was.Did the Selectmen change
policy on the dress code of "their" empoloyee or was that a Ms. lyn requirement
11:55 am est 

01/09/14 Banner:

Knight Recall Effort Moves Forward

By Ann Wood
BANNER STAFF

PROVINCETOWN — An affidavit containing the notarized signatures of 63 registered voters in Provincetown has started the process to recall board of selectman chair Austin Knight. It will be delivered to Town Clerk Doug Johnstone on a specific timetable, Barbara Rushmore, one of three residents who is spearheading the recall, said Tuesday.

“We’re going to do it so [the recall election] will be on the same day as the town election,” she said, adding that the town then won’t have to spend extra money on a special election.

Twenty-four notarized names were collected at a New Year’s event, and the rest were collected at Napi’s Restaurant on Monday and Tuesday afternoons, resident Vincent Currier said via email.

Once the town clerk has certified the affidavit, he will make available recall petitions. Recall petitions with the signatures of at least 10 percent of the town’s 2,914 registered voters must be filed with the town clerk within 20 days.

At this point “it’s all supposition,” but, Johnstone said, the town charter allows the recall election to be held at the same time as the annual town election if the petition is certified within 100 days of that election. Thus, as long as the petitions are returned to the clerk’s office any time after Jan. 27, he said that the rule applies.

If the requisite number of signatures can be gathered and the petition is certified, the town clerk will pass it along to the board of selectmen, who would then have to give written notice to Knight. If he does not resign within five days, an election would be held.

Several residents spearheaded this recall effort after it was revealed that Knight’s campaign signs were distributed from the Provincetown Police Station by former police chief Jeff Jaran last April. Knight has been adamant that he had no knowledge that his signs were being distributed from the municipal building. Others, including members of the police union, disagree.
10:01 am est 

Wednesday, January 8, 2014

Austin Knight

Such a     l!

The Austin Knight recall has nothing to do with Raphael Richter. It has all to
do with [toot] this town. He is an awful reflection of a selectman. that is what
this is about. How awful to have this person represent any of us!

I am disgusted by his actions and feel that he is dishonored and now
disrespects this town by chairing our board. I am embarrassed by his presence.
6:49 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight - Recall

"If you ask me, all this recall foolishness is a misguided attempt to
get Raphael Richter in office..."


Nah, that's not my intent.  My intent is getting someone who will run ethically,
and conduct the business of the BOS transparently, and also ethically.  This is 
only about Austin, and Austin alone.  So don't try to redirect what the essence
of this recall is.
10:43 am est 

Re: Revisiting Past Mistakes

Whoever posted the negative comments about Vernon Porter certainy does not know
much about what has been going on at Town Hall. Vernon was always professional,
responsive, and most helpful as secretary to the boaedmof selectmen. We can all
only hope his replacement is 1/2 as good as he was. The shame of all is the way
he was treated his last year at the position.
9:31 am est 

Re: Taxing Second Homeowners

Some folks so gleefully say, just tax the second homeowners--and the unintended
consequences are that they then raise the rents if they are landlords.
9:30 am est 

Re: Vincent Currier - Facebook - Updated His Status:

"I have never felt so relaxed in my skin as I do here. And the politics
are hardscrabble and participative! My kind of world. And we really have
accomplished our task and goals as smoothly and enthusiastically as I have ever
seen. If the world could see what is and has been happening here, it could be a
model for the "big guys" in Washington."


This self-congratulatory comment doesn't account for the 400-odd townsfolk who
didn't show up to dance around your bonfire. The truth will be in getting the
several other hundred signatures and whether more then 63 people are willing to
fill the gaps on town boards and really lead this community.

People are looking for any excuse to socialize now.Let's hope the future
continues to be as rosy as the poster is proposing. Seems a bit on the smug side
for my taste.
9:28 am est 

Re: Austin Knight - Recall

If you ask me, all this recall foolishness is a misguided attempt to
get Raphael Richter in office but it may very well backfire in your faces. He
lost once, he may lose again. Then who knows WHO we'll end up with!
9:26 am est 

Tuesday, January 7, 2014

Vincent Currier - Facebook - Updated His Status:

"I spent another three hours at Napi's Restaurant today, with many of my friends, and town leaders. If it weren't for the fact that what we have to do is unpleasant, it would have been a perfect day....in fact, it WAS a perfect day! A large group of people who still take the time to
make a difference in the fair governing of our special community.

A very diversied group, like only Provincetown could gather together. A senior member of the community, who has been participating in town it seems forever, gay men, straight men, lesbians, transgender, black, white, German, Italian, french, and it seems, everything in between. And Katy Perry's song "I kissed a woman and I liked it" was for me, I have never kissed so many men and liked it, lol.

I have never felt so relaxed in my skin as I do here. And the politics are hardscrabble and participative! My kind of world. And we really have accomplished our task and goals as smoothly and enthusiastically as I have ever seen. If the world could see what is and has been happening here, it could be a model for the "big guys" in Washington.

We are making things happen, and effecting changes that are necessary to govern fairly and for all. Social medai has a lot to do with the success of our work. It is easier to be in touch and stay in touch, even if half the population is in warmer climes. What a place, what a time.

I am grateful to be here, and thank all of you who have worked on this recall and for those who continue to care about our little piece of paradise. Keep up the good work! Thank you, thank you, thank you. Incidentally, we needed 50 notarized, verified and registered voters to move this petition to the next step, we collected them handily, total 63 thru today, and accomplished this with three meetings in warm and comfortable surroundings!

Who said it would be impossible, and who said we can't collect 300 signatures for the recall runoff. I have a feeling deep inside we are on the right side of this history!"
10:28 pm est 

Selectman Petition

Posts say there are 57 signatures - that's great but don't you need something
like 200 or is this it. Do you think you can get what you need. What's the amount
you need to recall? How does a recall work?
10:18 pm est 

The Fat Lady/Man Has Not Sung Yet

How many registered voters in town?  What % have signed so far?  maybe
more than that will be needed to get the recall done in fact.  It sure takes a
lot to get this thing going, but how many more signatures are needed to get to
the next step?  and then, of course, there is the question of who will run
against AK and how many votes will it need to move it to a victory. 

Don't get too worked up about getting a few signatures.  there is a lot more
to do before it is over.
10:16 pm est 

Re: BOS Meeting, "Run Clarence Run"

Mr. Walker running for Selectmen by your friend in Delware, is this the former
town manager Lynn writing in for Clarence to run for office
10:12 pm est 

Re: Revisit the Past Mistakes

Vernon Porter was the only Town Hall employee that was eager to assist
anyone who needed assistance.  He was treated like absolute CRAP by Sharon Lynn
and a particular selectperson.

At least two former selectmen, whom he he had worked for, stood up for him at
the town meeting in which Sharon Lynn tried to eliminate his job in a sneaky,
underhanded way.  If it was so obvious that he was doing a terrible job, Sharon
would not have had to be underhanded about it.  She, along with the selectmen,
could have fired him just the way she fired so many others. But she
couldn't---he was helpful and well-liked and too many people (town hall
employees among them) would have raised a stink.  They raised a stink anyway,
because Sharon thought we were all stupid enough not to see her town meeting
ploy.

She deliberately kept his salary incredibly low so that he would leave.  He
badly needed to supplement his income, which he did by doing weddings.  Give the
guy a break--he got screwed.
8:01 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight - Recall Signing

Timmer Naylor
3:47pm Jan 7
Hey, lovelies!!! Here's the update many of you have been waiting for. At the close of today's recall signing, not only was the goal reached, it was handily surpassed...63 notarized signatures! Very special thanks to Vince, Peter Macara, Susan Mitchell, Myra Gold, Marcene, Clarence, Herbert Hintze, Jim Palacino, Tom Tannierllo, (who picked up the tab!), and of course, Vernon Porter, who did the notarizing, and Napi, who made it possible by hosting the event. Thanks to everyone who spread the word, who voted, and is ready to move onto the next step. As Vince said, 'one New Year's Eve party, 2 two hour meetings at Napi's..not bad for a bunch of mob members!
7:33 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight - Recall

57 signatures, that's great.  Better get 75 to be safe.  Some are
bound to be disqualified.  Happens all the time with political petition
signings.  Although in this town where most people know each, the chances of
someone signing and not being a resident or registered voter are less than in a
large town.  On second thought 60 should do it.
6:41 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight - Recall

Re: '. . .Napi's Restaurant (Back room). . ."

How appropriate that this group operates out of a back room.  The group that
talks so loudly of transparency, yet hides so much.


Webmaster Comment:The Back Room at Napi's is in the very front of the building. It is the main room through which you enter the establishment
6:40 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

If anyone has any kind of verifiable proof of fraud in obtaining
public assisted housing, they should go to the police with the information.  Put
it all in writing and insist that the police sign a copy saying that they have
received the info.  If they don't do anything send the same info with the
written police receipt to the Attorney general.  Only people who need help
should get the help.  Do your part and duty as a citizen.  Don't whine.  Take
action.
6:35 pm est 

Re: Revisit the Past Mistakes

"The current BOS Secretary does not spend half her time arranging
weddings so we probably pay her half as much as the previous Secretary when you
divide pay by hours worked."


Who ever wrote the above doesn't know the facts. And it is absolutely NOT true.
Better get your facts straight before making any allegations.


Sorry, everyone inside town hall watched how much time the prior BOS Secretary
spent on his wedding business.  It was not a secret.  The town manager was
powerless to stop him because he reported to the BOS.
6:32 pm est 

Affodable Housing

With the whole love fest generated by the housing summit and all of the folks
salivating and falling all over themselves to force the taxpayers to pay for it,
just remember that the taxpayers see these developers at the goose that lays the
golden egg.

Affordable housing units are built to be obsolete as affordable housing as the
ones built so far eventually grow to become market rate housing--thus the town
can never reach 10% affordable housing.

The taxpayers will always be paying millions to developers and then we hear the
complaints about noise, shoddy building, cramped spaces with incredible density
that normally isn't allowed.

Have your housing summit love fest. You will have to wait ten years anyway
before it is built. Province Landing just opened--give other communities the
chance to build their Province Landing. Why should the Provincetown taxpayers
have all of the fun?
6:29 pm est 

Austin Knight - Recall

We now have 57 notarized signatures!! and there will be even more tomorrow.

This is great news for Provincetown!  Getting closer to having someone at the
helm that governs ethically and transparently!  Yay!!!!!
6:26 pm est 

Austin Knight

Please just resign. History will look kinder on you if you do
the right thing and vacate the BOS. Please do this for the better good of the
entire town . Just my opinion.
6:24 pm est 

Update, Update, Update on the Austin Knight Recall

We now have 57 notarized signatures!! and there will be even more tomorrow. We
have met the goal which was 50 signatures and did it today,.

Thank you, all of you, for being there today and doing this.

I am so proud of everyone. Thank you so much.
11:24 pm est 

Re: Revisit the Past Mistakes

"The current BOS Secretary does not spend half her time arranging
weddings so we probably pay her half as much as the previous Secretary when you
divide pay by hours worked."


Who ever wrote the above doesn't know the facts. And it is absolutely NOT true.
Better get your facts straight before making any allegations.
11:22 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

The reality is that any person that filled out an application with
false information so they could qualify for the lottery, won one of these
lotteries, and is now living in an affordable housing unit has committed a
terrible indecency - taking away the possibility of a truly qualifying person
from getting a place to live that they can afford.
11:20 pm est 

Monday, January 6, 2014

Re: Signature Drive

Did you get your 50 signatures today?  If not, how many?  You should give us
updates on how close you are to your goal like they do when raising funds for
public television.  That way we can decide if we need to chip in or just kick
back and enjoy the entertainment for free.
6:21 pm est 

Re: Revisit the Past Mistakes

"Did you know that the Secretary to the BOS is now getting more than
what the previous Secretary was making (who served us more than 14 1/2 year with
complete transparency - good bad or indifferent - went through hell for the
citizens of Provincetown)."


The current BOS Secretary does not spend half her time arranging weddings so we
probably pay her half as much as the previous Secretary when you divide pay by
hours worked.
6:16 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

"f you know of real fraud being perpetrated, you have a duty as a
citizen to report it."



Great post  If it's about fraud on affordable housing; someone who lied in their
application, won the lottery, and purchased an affordable unit.  Where do I file
a complaint?
6:12 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

I hate fraud as much as anyone.  I also hate simplistic thinking.  How
about some real data on these people who "have it made"?  How much do they
actually make a year and what is a "huge" income from side jobs?  These
fact-less general posts do nothing to help us understand things.  All heat, no
light.  If you know of real fraud being perpetrated, you have a duty as a
citizen to report it. Do you really think that bitching about it here solves
anything?  If you want PT to be a better place, then do something other than
whine anonymously.


By the way, no one "lauds" it over anyone.  Some folks "lord" it over others. 
Like in the "lord of the manor" or "House of Lords".
11:47 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

I know several affordable housing recipients here in Provincetown(not
naming any names) who have it made! They have a cheap place to live, they work a
few months in the summer and take the rest of the year off to travel, attend
parties, etc. while collecting unemployment. Here's the best part though: their
side job is completely under the radar and provides a huge amount of tax free
income year round. AND it was recently decriminalized by the state of MA. AND
nobody bothers to investigate because they don't want to rock the boat. It's a
win/win!
10:52 am est 

Affordable Rental Time Limits

So what you are saying is that it is ridiculous to expect an affordable
apartment to have a 99 year lease because the developer should be able to get a
market based rent after a few years..sheesh..
9:48 am est 

BOS Meeting

From what I've learned watching the good citizens of Provincetown
address the BOS during the "5 minutes segment" Clarence Walker would make an
excellent candidate. Intelligent, knowledgeable, spirited and apparently
fearless. Please beat the Ptown drum and start a recruitment effort.

Run Clarance run.

Sincerely
Your friend in Delaware
9:46 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

"How these folks lauded it over us strutting around in their tans in
the spring..."


Oh,youre referring to those living in or asking for affordable housing.for a
minute there i thought you were referring to second and third homeowners or a
few of the luckier business owners in town.
9:45 am est 

From: Dieter Groll
 8:06am Jan 6
This is the long-awaited third revision of this document, reformatted into a complaint filed today with the Massachusetts Office of Campaign and Political Finance, and copied to the Town Clerk.
9:33 am est 

Re: Housing Summit - Affordable Housing

1. Every affordable unit for rent or for sale must have a 99 year
lease and this
MUST be made RETROACTIVE DATING BACK 15 YEARS.

>agreements have already been signed and terms set for those that purchased
affordable units. one can't just decide to make the agreements retroactive.

2. Every affordable complex built from now on must have
   a. 99 year lease or deed be it a rental property of
   for sale.

>then why should homeowners make any improvements beyond basic maintanance if
they can't recoup the money they put into their property?


3. new percentage: 75 percent is for affordable and  25%
   market rate.

>there's not enough profit for any developer to sell that many units as
affordable.


5. Use grants instead of taxpayer money. Let developers for the bill--not
taxpayers

>grant funding is actively pursued and used to build each project.


Got any ideas based in reality? I'm glad we don't have to reinvent the wheel
based on your logic.
11:16 pm est 

Revisit the Past Mistakes

Seriously.  I cannot believe all that is happening here.  Austin
Knight definitely should resign. No doubt about it .. and Elaine Anderson should
go as well.  But look at all that is happening with our town employees. Did you
know that the Secretary to the BOS is now getting more than what the previous
Secretary was making (who served us more than 14 1/2 year with complete
transparency - good bad or indifferent - went through hell for the citizens of
Provincetown).

We need to take care of our current workers. For heavens sake
give them an appropriate salary that is equal to others serving in other towns. 
Our past secretary to BOS was black balled .. but that does not mean that we
have to continue this practice for all our employees who have give so much to
the town.

Get rid of the 'old folks under Michelle Couture's spell" = time to
clean the slake and let's move on. Nobody asked, just my 2 cents worth.
11:02 pm est 

Sunday, January 5, 2014

PTV/Library

I agree,  both the library and PTV are still in danger and need to be
rescued from the Old regime.

How dare the head of ptv demand all the money from Comcast!
Those funds are meant to go in the General Fund.
That is how the town knows how and why the funds are spent. Never
before has a town entity been "given" their entire budget...this
reeks of Anne McGuire / Sharon Lynn giving Beth a golden kiss as
She went out the door. Question,  is this the same Beth who was the
HS principal or Superintend?
10:58 pm est 

Re: Housing Summit

AFFORDABLE HOUSING VOICES

How these folks lauded it over us strutting around in their tans in the spring
denigrating us for working all winter while they were lounging on warm beaches.
We were suckers in their eyes--rents were dirt cheap etc.

Now they are clamoring and screaming and rending their clothes saying that they
are the put upon poor--when they in truth cultivated their poverty very
thoughtfully. They worked as much as they could to get a high unemployment--and
they went away for the winter.

What they didn't realize that their cheap would end one day when the owner of
the building where they lived died and the family rented it out at market rates.

Suddenly the town had these crying put upon homeless people--when these folks
were actually helped to find a place.
Front page news. The Ryan report..all manufactured so that the taxpayers were
once again their patsy.

it is the truth..Just sayin'
10:56 pm est 

Re: Housing Summit

HOUSING SUMMIT FOR MORE SOUND AND FURY

Get yourselves all in a lather. The same tired voices stating the same dire
things and the malcontents lapping it up. BUT how many are hungry for a year
round job? How many folks collect unemployment and in the sping don't work when
asked because their unemployment is equal to what they would make working--so
they wait until the season gets started.

I've been around long enough like so many folks who work side by side with the
screamers for affordable housing. For years they laughed at us and lauded over
the fact they were in Florida or South America while we worked here in the cold.


10:54 pm est 

Town Manager

BARBARA   RUSHMORE   FOR  NEW  TOWN  MANAGER
10:52 pm est 

Re: Housing Summit

HERE WE GO AGAIN

The Ryan report: no jobs, too high of rents, give the people free and easy
living at the taxpayer's expense. Look at the late model cars at Province
Landing. Look at the folks who go away for the winter.

Look at the folks who have affordable housing units *with a signifcant other*
who rent them out and make the big bucks.

Look at the long time homeowners who pay their taxes and pay for free and easy
life of these folks who collect unemployment and desire to work only a few
months a years.

Ask other people. Ask the business owner who interviewed folks who asked if they
could have a couple of months off in the winter..that is the mind set here.
10:51 pm est 

Re: Housing Summit

BREAKING NEWS--PEOPLE WANT CHEAP RENT--RYAN REPORT

Dang, I want a five course meal with cocktails, wine, after dinner drinks and
cordials--for only five dollars and I want the taxpayers to for the rest.

How is that different from people who want to live in Provincetown and pay a
pittance for rent? And, they want to prevent homeowners from selling their
property to anyone who wants to turn it into additional housing.

What is mine is mine..and what is yours is mine too--the age old situation in
Provincetown for so many folks..They love to spend other people's money--or
demand that they spend it the way that the malcontents want it spent.

10:49 pm est 

Re: Housing Summit?

Is This really a time for the Housing Summit?

We are in transition. Why don't we just wait. Let the chips fall as they may.
Why begin another incentive when we don't even know what is happening now at
town hall.

The next person we hire should be: critical thinker; insight presenter; bright
bulb.

Some intelligence would be such a relief!
10:47 pm est 

Thanks National Seashore!!

Looks like the Seashore will be getting what they've wanted all along, no more
parking at Herring Cove. The recent storm smashed the pavement and washed away
the sand that supported the parking lot. Funny how it was safe for years and
years until the brilliance that is the National Seashore removed the stone
jettys and revetments that broke the waves and retained the sand thus kept the
parking lot in good shape. Thanks seashore!! Get your hot dogs while you can
because it won't be long before the newly constructed bath house will be
destroyed due to wave action.

Great thinking.
10:45 pm est 

Unemployment

Get rid of unemployment all together and many will find a job here,
many will move away to get a job somewhere else and many might just stay at
their winter residence and not bother us! The reason we have joblessness is we
give money for it.
10:44 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall Rally

'Yeah, and two posts after yours one of your buddies is saying that
next we need to clean house at PTV and the library. Enough of the bloodlust.
Time to quit playing off-with-their-heads and get back to the business of running the town."



The business of running the town does include cleaning house and restructuring
as needed. The days of heeding control to the patronizing and stern warnings
from those 'that know best' are over,poppy.
10:42 pm est 

Austin Knight

Austin better start looking around for tons more trees to give away to
the parents of our schoolchildren.  Hey, wait a minute!  These parents are
Provincetown voters!

Nah, I'm sure Austin gives away those Christmas trees to the parents every year,
not just this time, when he's in trouble, right?
10:40 pm est 

Austin Knight Recall Rally

Should Austin be successfully recalled , in keeping with recent
tradition, it is imperative we designate an "Austin Knight Day".

Let's make it the Nighty Knight Day!  Dover have to hold a party for him also?
10:39 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall Rally

"Yeah, and two posts after yours one of your buddies is saying that
next we need to clean house..."



Now, don't go getting all jealous and stuff.  The poster you're alluding to is
as much my buddy as you are.  You're ALL my buddies!
10:29 pm est 

Happy New Year!

What did our Board of Selectmen really accomplish last year? Nothing. Zero. Zip.
Nada.

I can't wait to see how they will top their brilliant 2013 performance in the
new year.

12:57 pm est 

Housing Summit - John Ryan

Am I Wrong...
but isn't John Ryan the same John Ryan who did the Ryan report on affordable
housing needs and this report was found to be flawed and problematic. the
numbers were wrong and the report was mostly discredited.

Is this the same John Ryan?
12:55 pm est 

Re: Housing Summit

Crazy to have a housing summit before job creation! We do not need to
house people if they don't have a job...that's just cruel!
11:14 am est 

Affordable Housing

"Im tired of wash ashore and part time residents sticking their nose in my business. 
If I can manage to spend the winter somewhere warm, why should they care?"


Wow - what an entitled attitude.  Do you realize these "wash ashores and part
time residents" paid to subsidize your Home in Ptown and maybe the only reason
you can manage to spend the winter somewhere warm is because of the Affordable
Housing this town has given you ?
11:11 am est 

Housing Questions
 
Please contact Community Housing Specialist Michelle Jarusiewicz at 508/487-7087
or mjarusiewicz@provincetown-ma.gov if you have any questions!

Here are my quesitions. How many affordable housing units have been built in the
last 30 years? How many were then rented or sold at Market rate?

How many affordable units are in existence including the ones that have
landlords with  tenants in section 8 through The Housing Authority in Hyannis
and the Barnstable housing authority etc. etc.

You state that each year affordable units reach Market Rate, can we pass a law
stating that every unit now and in the future and any built in the last 15 years
must now have a 99 year lease?

Show the documentation that Ted Malone has paid the town back in revenue as
required by law.

When will Stable Path be built..what is the break down regarding the number of
affordable and market rate units?

11:07 am est 

Housing Summit

From past experience, it took from 2006, the last housing summit, to 2013 for
Province Landing to be in turn key condition.

This is 2014--so the next affordable housing complex won't be ready (after
Stable Path) until 2020. At 40, I'm already middle aged-A full grown mature
adult.

I'll be 46 by 2020. I wonder what my chances will be to secure a unit since that
means there will be six years of new arrivals in town all vying for the same
affordable housing.

This is what happened this time in 2013 to me and many others--we didn't get
picked for Province Landing.
11:07 am est 

John Ryan Give Me!

Hey, John Ryan, I want to live on Beacon Hill-get me some affordable housing
there so the taxpayers support me.

Hey, John Ryan, I want to live on Nantucket or Martha's Vineyard--on the water,
give me some affordable housing there.

Hey John Ryan, I only want to work May to October, but give me affordable
housing on the water in the West End--I want two bedrooms so I can have a summer
roommate pay big bucks.

Hey John Ryan, get me an affordable housing water view apartment so I can
continue to work under the table and then buy a new MEGA Truck and a boat.
11:06 am est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall Rally

Agreed! after Austin, a revamp of PTV and the library brought about by
the new leaders and members of the Provicetown community. onward.
11:01 am est 

Housing Summit Demands

1. Every affordable unit for rent or for sale must have a 99 year lease and this
MUST be made RETROACTIVE DATING BACK 15 YEARS.

2. Every affordable complex built from now on must have
   a. 99 year lease or deed be it a rental property of
   for sale.

3. new percentage: 75 percent is for affordable and  25%
   market rate.

4. Adhere to laws regarding density and open space as   regular housing. OPEN
SPACE, SOUND PROOFING (so when one person's alarm goes up the whole floor
doesn't sit bolt upright in bed.)

5. Use grants instead of taxpayer money. Let developers for the bill--not
taxpayers

6. Developers must be required to abide by the law and return some profit to the
town.
11:00 am est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall Rally

Re: "Another tactic they use is saying that we want to get rid of
everybody in town government.  At least from my point of view, once the recall
process is finished, the focus must be on stabilizing things, and supporting our
current Acting Town Manager and his staff.  It should, and must end with the
recall."


Yeah, and two posts after yours one of your buddies is saying that next we need
to clean house at PTV and the library. Enough of the bloodlust. Time to quit
playing off-with-their-heads and get back to the business of running the town.
10:56 am est 

Austin Knight

Should Austin be successfully recalled , in keeping with recent
tradition, it is imperative we designate an "Austin Knight Day".
10:54 am est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall Rally

To the poster who mentions that they would feel closure once Austin
Knight is recalled, I would argue that I'm not so sure. There are issues
involving the Library and PTV that have not been answered to my satisfaction,
and bear the imprimatur of Sharon Lynn.
11:52 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall Rally

Impressed by how well organized the petition signing and notarizing
seems.

Naysayers used to say that it was just a few malcontents, about 4 or 5, that
kept posting over and over on this site about the abuse of power by our former
Police Chief.  Events that ensued proved them wrong, more than once.

Now, the same naysayers are trying to do damage control for Austin, by
minimizing the problematic issues that many of us have about him and his
leadership.

Another tactic they use is saying that we want to get rid of everybody in town
government.  At least from my point of view, once the recall process is
finished, the focus must be on stabilizing things, and supporting our current
Acting Town Manager and his staff.  It should, and must end with the recall. 
It's important to assure the citizens that this is it.

I think that the naysayers will be surprised AGAIN!  See you at Napi's, "pen in
hand"!!!
11:48 pm est 

Saturday, January 4, 2014

Let's Make Monday Recall Rally Day!!

Go to Napi's on Monday between noon and two p.m. sign the recall petition and
then it can be notarized right there.

Let's move forward and get this done now.

We've done the talking; we've done the discussions. Now let's act
7:36 pm est 

Let's All be There at Napi's Monday at Noon


Time to recall Austin Knight and time to be active. Let's take action. there
will be a notary there at Napi's and the signature sheet will be waiting for you.

So go there and sign. then you can have a little lunch before you head out to
the elements.
7:34 pm est 

Seems the Issues With PTV Are Serious

And the posting by a former volunteer and his problems indicate that more needs
to be investigated. Seems the board has been left to three, instead of six, and
no replacements. Sounds like it is too insular and too connected to our former
town Manager's plans and people.

Should be looked into for sure!
7:32 pm est 

Sharon Lynn's Recruitment

To the poster that claims Sharon was recruited by the flesh peddler looking to
help fill the spot in Rehoboth Beach, that doesn't explain why Sharon applied
for the town administrator position in Harwich.

Sharon was looking out for number one, plain and simple.
7:27 pm est 

Cheryl Andrews

In a wonderful essay on Gawker last week, Tom Scocca excoriated the
pompous and often vapid niceness brigade. "Snark can be overdone", he wrote, "but
it is better than smarm, which is never a force for good. A civilization that
speaks in smarm is a civilization that has lost its ability to talk about
purposes at all. It is a civilization that says, Dont Be Evil, rather than
making sure it does not do evil. ................."


The paragraph above is from a recent Maureen Dowd column   Read it at

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/15/opinion/sunday/dowd-bigger-than-bambi.html?_r=0

It fits !


Happy New Year everyone.

Cheryl Andrews
11:18 am est 

Austin Knight Recall

I'm thrilled to learn about the scheduled sign ups for the recall. 
Under Austin Knight's "leadership" as its Chair, has presided over the most
opaque Board of Selectmen I can recall.  Don't believe me?  Take a look at the
Agendas on file, or posted for Board of Selectmen's meetings for at least the
last 2 years. Let the facts be your friend.

Let's get out and sign that recall petition next week!  Let's recall Austin
Knight!  We deserve transparency in our government!!!
11:14 am est 

To Webmaster

Recall petition signing- Clarence- can you take a look at the dates.
Monday 1/9/2014 must me some sort of mistake. Thanks

Webmaster Comment: Thanks for the correction. Also, please note the change in venue. The signing is now at Napi's restaurant.
11:12 am est 

She is a Powerhouse!

She is amazing. Barbara Rushmore is awe-inspiring. She cares for this town, as
many of us do, however---she does not just tweet or twitter or post--she acts.
She is not one to hold a consensus meeting. She acts on what she believes and I
thank her so much for what she does.

Such appreciation for you, Barbara.
11:09 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing

I have lived in an affordable unit for a few years now.  Im tired of wash ashore
and part time residents sticking their nose in my business.  If I can manage to
spend the winter somewhere warm, why should they care?  My home is nothing
special, just inexpensive.  This allows me to live the life style I choose. Im
tired of them passing judgment.  The town should make more units available so
that our town people can have a place to live and call their home base.  We vote
and decide who represent us and housing is our number one concern.  How often we
are there is no ones business.
11:08 am est 

Chance For a Brighter Day!

I too Believe that with Austin Knight Gone, there will be a time for
Healing and For Going forward

When he goes, we will be able to breathe freely. He is the third personthat must
go and once gone, we have a great chance, a wonderful opportunity to heal and
re-enliven this town.

With Sharon in Rehobeth Beach, Jeff Jaran in no man's land and Austin Knight
recalled, we can move forward. We can remake this town and have a town hall that
works for us and cares about all of us--not just a select few.

We have a chance for true vision and finally for leadership.
11:06 am est 

Re Libel and Petitions

There is no libel in signing a petition.  Sign away, it's your right.  There is
libel when someone says in writing that someone has broken state and town
election laws when they have not been charged or convicted of any such thing.  I
am no lawyer but I know how to read.  Pay attention.
11:04 am est 

Re: Austin Knight - Recall

-----IMO, questioning the outcome of the last election isn't relevant.
I'll never know if Mr. Knight would have lost, had he not done what he did. Nor
do I care about a previous sexual harrassment allegation agains Mr. Knight by a
a then Town employee, or that he operated as a contractor without licenses, or
that he has a different name. All of these issues, while they could certainly
make people wonder, aren't relevant.
-----So, please, let's stick to the relevant issue - that Mr. Knight violated
election laws, and to make matters even worse, in so doing, involved one of our
town departments, our Police Department. For these 2 issues, he must resign as
our Selectman, or be recalled by the majority of the voters.  To sit at the
Welsh Room with the other 4 Selectmen, who ran legal campaigns, is to make a
mockery of these 4 individuals.
-----Since Mr. Knight is desperately clinging to the seat, he gives us no option
but to go through the recall process in order to pry his fingers from that seat.
It'll be great relief for us to replace him with someone who does follow the
rules.
------And I agree with a previous poster - the last thing Mr. Knight will want
to do is entertain a libel suit; it could make matters worse for him.
11:03 am est 

PTV

Where are most recent board of selectmans  video,s on the
Community video space???????
11:00 am est 

Wishes For 2014!

A Holiday wish-

May you never forget
What is worth remembering
Or remember
what is best forgotten
  --Unknown
10:59 am est 

Cheryl Andrews

Thirty-four years ago, I entered adulthood surrounded by folks that had strong political views. Debate was expected & encouraged. In the last few years, some of my friends & Town leaders have suggested that the debate, postings and comments occurring on local social media sites are dividing Provincetown. I see it a bit differently. Yes, some postings are nasty. I've been the target a few times myself. But is a nice Kumbaya session our goal? Or is a 'little sunlight' aimed ...at a problem the better choice. It seems to me that an online forum can allow a large group of people to debate an issue and create a constructive path for change. I was disappointed when Town Leaders called Shout Out a hate blog. Is there anything worse than calling your neighbor a hater? When folks created Facebook pages and actually signed their names to their concerns, Town Leaders called them a lynch mob. In my quest to understand why debate has been stifled by some very smart people in Town including its Leadership, I came upon this recent column by Maureen Dowd. The Gawker essay she mentions, by Tom Scocca, is worth a read as well.

Happy New Year to all my family & friends and let the debate continue!

10:26 am est 

Friday, January 3, 2014

Emergency Shelter

Was the shelter that Towns Meeting authorized 2 years ago, along with
funding, been already established?
Why did it taken so long for this to be done?
3:28 pm est 

Re: Austin Knight Recall

I feel the town will finally have reached closure once Austin is
recalled. It's highly objectionable that, until the very end, Austin didn't
recuse himself from discussions and votes about the Police Chief's contract, and
other similar related matters dealt with by the BOS.
3:27 pm est 

Snowfall

As I sit in front of my fireplace and watch the snow falling outside
I can't help but think about the wild year we had as we approach high tide.

Our poor police chief got the boot just before Santa followed the path
While the snow continues to fall, all I can think of is flakes of wrath

3:25 pm est 

Happy New Year! All Good Wishes

Happiness and peace and joy throughout this year! to all posters and readers,
Best Wishes for a Great 2014!
1:45 pm est 

What Libel?

Anyone can be recalled for any issue that the residents are against. It is not
any case of libel to have a recall against Knight. As a citizen and resident of
Provincetown, you have the right to sign a petition and it has absolutely
nothing to do with libel. Glad you're not a lawyer. You'd lose more cases in any
courtroom.
1:43 pm est 

Austin Recall Rally Signing

Thanks for Posting the Hours When We can sign the Autin Knight Recall
Petition and Have it Notarized

Signing is one thing. Having it notarized is another. But holding these rallies
at the Seaman's Bank is great.

Bravo for creativity and gusto!
1:41 pm est 

Barbara Rushmore is a Gem!

She has been courageous and fearless and determined. She is most principled and
I am so thankful that she is the one who has acted on the recall of Austin
Knight. She took action and she is putting the time and effort into this. she
has been consistent year after year.

Thank you Barbara for all that you have done for all of us. You are remarkable!
1:36 pm est 

Re: Barbara Rushmore

Whether or not you agree with Ms. Rushmore's actions, she is following the
process. To that we must give her credit. The petition, if presented properly,
will likely lead to a referendum. That is when you may exercise your franchise.

As far as whether or not Ms. Rushmore's actions will have an effect on "her
other grandson" and his potential election, most voters are slightly more
forward thinking.

To quote Mr. Knight, "This is a process."

9:08 am est 

Re: Austin Recall Rallies

"...Austin having broken laws.  He hasn't been charged
or convicted of anything.  If I was him, I'd be seeking legal advice in the area
of libel."



Austin suing for libel will be his gift to our town.  Let it all come out!  "I
know nothing."  LOL
8:55 am est 

Re Barbara Rushmore

"Barbara Rushmore certainly does not speak for me and most in town."


Well...she certainly speaks for me on this one, as she did when, at our last
Town Meeting, she crafted the final language for the purchase of the VFW.  I
recall people around town praising her the next day.So...I'm with her on this
one.I'll gladly sign the petition to unseat a man who never knows ANYTHING.

8:50 am est 

Re: Barbara Rushmore

Barbara Rushmore certainly does not speak for me and most in town. 
Her actions will most likely make her 'other grandson' unelectable.
11:25 pm est 

Thursday, January 2, 2014

Re Austin Recall Rallies

And one more thing.  given that the moderator of this board actively edits posts
and decides what does and what does not get posted, he can't be held harmless if
an action for libel was pursued as he has allowed the libelous post to be made.

Webmaster Comment: "Grounds claimed for dismissal" The operative word is "Claimed". 

By Ann Wood @awoodBanner
Posted Jan 02, 2014 @ 09:17 AM


"Barbara Rushmore read aloud the recall affidavit with which she and two other residents have begun to attempt to unseat selectmen chair Austin Knight. The grounds for dismissal, the affidavit says, are that he has broken town and state election laws and that residents no longer have confidence in him..........."

10:21 pm est 

Re: Austin Recall Rallies

Shouldn't that notice of recall rallies say "He is alleged to have broken town
and state election laws?"

I ain't no lawyer but as far as I know he hasn't been charged or convicted by
any legal authority for breaking town or state election laws.  By stating in
writing that he has broken laws you are opening yourself up to a libel suit. 
The fact that you are aware that he has not been charged or convicted of
anything yet state in writing that he has points to malice aforethought.

Just saying.  Maybe you could restate it to say "I/WE BELIEVE" he has broken...
or the Marcum Report "MAY" indicate or some other way to say it without making a
libelous statement regarding Austin having broken laws.  He hasn't been charged
or convicted of anything.  If I was him, I'd be seeking legal advice in the area
of libel.


Webmaster Comment: Synonyms for "Allege" = Claim, Assert, Contend, Charge, and Declare.

Thank you for your concern and interest

10:18 pm est 

Housing Summit

Why are we having yet another housing summit before we have an employment
summit.   People can't even afford affordable housing without jobs.   Let's
figure out how to employ folks so that they can pay for housing that's
affordable, but affordable housing that is opened up to people outside of
Provincetown does not do the local townies any good.
8:44 pm est 

A Little Knowledge Would go a Long Way

Sorry, but you don't need a long history but...really please know
enough about this town before you speak

I hear too many who think they know this town---and have no sense of what this
town really is. l then I hear then speak and I want to say: enough, you don't
have a clue.

I'm glad many are involved but please--- know what you don't know before you
take up the mike and shout out your wishes.
7:12 pm est 

Re: Ah, I am Sure She is Now Gone!

Re: "She has new work duties on the 6th. So I am sure she is there in
Rehobeth Beach. So glad she is there---and not here. they can have her, even if
they don't keep her for too lo9ng.l wait for Monday when they officially take
her from us. what a joy! what a relief! Life is good in 2014!"


Perfect example of a frivolous, childish post. No news, no information relevant
to our town, no points at all really. Just immature, gloating. Webmaster, do we
really need to see posts like this?
7:07 pm est 

Ah, You Must be Working For Ted Malone

The places that have been sold, sold at market rates and it was much more than
what you are reporting. They sold for over $400,000 and they made money and so
did ted Malone.

Your sense of history is distorted and plainly  wrong. Many of those who worked
for Ted Malone--and I will not [give] names now but I surely could--made so much money.
And not only this--they lived at affordable rates for years.

It is but a     . Ted Malone became rich over their     ,          bodies. and
he is ready to  do more at Race Road.
7:05 pm est 

Predicted Snow Fall Levels
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6:55 pm est 

Provincetown Could Get up to 20 Inches of Snow
 
WickedLocal.com
The New Year blizzard is forecasted to dump between 14 and 18 inches of snow on the Outer Cape — it may even reach 20 inches — and the storm won’t wind down until about 5 or 7 p.m. Friday, a National Weather Service representative reported late Thursday afternoon.
6:45 pm est 

Re: Facts For Affordable Housing Summit
 
Re: "Many people know of the two men with high paying jobs who each
have a unit, live in one
and rent out the other. Or are they renting out both and living in a big,
beautiful house in Truro?"



Both of those men to whom you refer sold their units for $133,500 each;the units
remain "Affordable". They were NOT sold at Market Rate.

If you are going to post here, do your homework and get your facts straight.
6:41 pm est 

WickedLocal.com - Provincetown Banner

By Ann Wood @awoodBanner
Posted Jan 02, 2014 @ 09:17 AM



Barbara Rushmore read aloud the recall affidavit with which she and two other residents have begun to attempt to unseat selectmen chair Austin Knight. The grounds for dismissal, the affidavit says, are that he has broken town and state election laws and that residents no longer have confidence in him.

“It cannot be certain whether the election was free or fair,” Rushmore read, and then spoke about the recall process. “We’re going to start right away on this. I think our aim is to do this in the first two weeks of January.”

She’s looking to get the notarized signatures of 50 registered voters on an affidavit that will be submitted to the town clerk. Then, petitions will be circulated.

“It is hard. I think they make it hard so that people don’t do it frivolously,” Rushmore said. “These things happen, and that’s why they have recalls.”

What happened was sketched in the Marcum report, which found former police chief Jeff Jaran in violation of election laws for encouraging on-duty police officers to vote for Knight and distributing Knight’s campaign signs from the police station last April. The report further found that “Mr. Knight knew that the signs would be distributed to Provincetown police officers.” Provincetown police Det. Meredith Lobur, the police union president, went further in her response to the report, saying that “these signs were provided by the chairman of the board of selectmen with the knowledge that they were to be taken to the police station.”

Knight, however, has been adamant that he did not know that Lt. Jim Golden was sent by Jaran to pick up the signs. Nor did he know, he has repeatedly stated, that they were being distributed from the police station.

“I want to say very clearly, I will not resign,” Knight said during a selectmen’s meeting on Dec. 16.

Vincent Currier, who also is spearheading the recall petition, said he doesn’t believe Knight and wants him off the board.

“I believe that Austin Knight has been dishonest about his role in the illegal influence he has exerted in the last town election by using the chief of police as his inside influence, in manipulating the [selectmen’s] agenda by not including all items requested,” he wrote in an e-mail to the Banner. “If he will not step down after so much incriminating evidence has been uncovered by our own police union, and by independent investigations, then the voters must recall him and get on with the business of our town.”


6:35 pm est 

Facts For Affordable Housing Summit

Keep the truth forefront and center! Yes, the fact is that residents of long
standing were living here when the first affordable housing units were on the
market--but they were passed over to new people.

Yes these new residents then ARE LONG TIME RESIDENTS now--but still, the then
long time residents who were living here got passed over and it is "alleged"
that some people who worked for Ted in some capacity got the units.

Many people know of the two men with high paying jobs who each have a unit, live
in one and rent out the other. Or are they renting out both and living in a big,
beautiful house in Truro?

Question: How many affordable housing units units built in the last 30 years are
still deeded as affordable housing-and how many "matured" into market rate
units? BE HONEST.

4:16 pm est 

Ah, I am Sure She is Now Gone!

She has new work duties on the 6th. So I am sure she is there in Rehobeth Beach.
So glad she is there---and not here.

they can have her, even if they don't keep her for too lo9ng.l wait for Monday
when they officially take her from us. what a joy! what a relief!

Life is good in 2014!
4:12 pm est 

Fluff is Fluff

Since you asked. the Housing Summit will be nothing more than fluff or a new
venture for out of towners to move here. and those who need it and those who
should get affordable housing, never, ever will

Same old story, same old game.
4:09 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

Here we go. Hatred target starting off the new year: affordable
housing. This subject always gets some townsfolk riled up, looking for blood and
blame.

Someone said awhile ago on this blog that "the town is now rich." Rather, we
have rich people living here (some with several homes)but the town coffers are
not overflowing because of this. And so, the slipped middle class begin pounding
on those with even less. How sad for the town. It used to be a place of
acceptance and happiness, especially in the off season.
11:22 am est 

Affordable Housing Stock

100 UNITS IN THE LAST 8 YEARS

HOW MANY HUNDREDS BEFORE THAT?

AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS BEEN BUILT HERE FOR DECADES.
9:47 am est 

Happy, Happy New Year to all!

May 2014 Bring Peace, Creativity and Enjoyment!

It's going to be an interesting year here in Provincetown. We are surely
starting out nicely and I see us progressing as the months go by.

Much will happen and Provincetown has such a chance to come together with many
dedicated residents who care so much for this town. 2014 will bring interesting
results.
9:45 am est 

Wrong and Wrong again

Your facts are wrong even though you are attacking others' facts on affordable
housing. Locals hardly get affordable housing and those who have lived here for
many years hardly have a chance. Much housing has been built--look at Ted
Malone's Meadows, Ted Malone's Conwell housing and look at the market rates for
the many units that he sold to his own staff. all those whose names were "pulled
out of the hat" were  those who worked for Ted Malone or those who were involved
with his employees. It was a scam and then five years later, they sold their
housing for a profit and then these units were dropped from the affordable
housing lists and the town's affordable housing rates decreased. Look at the
affordable housing units at SeaShore Point and the many units at our give it
away 90 Shankpainter Road.

There have been many affordable housing built here but not many went to those who
live here. Once you get state and federal monies--then the developers open the
places to anyone who "qualifies" from cities and towns across Massachusetts--not
just or even from here.

And the same pattern will keep repeating itself. Have the Housing summit and
those so enthusiastic--as many were many years back--will find the same scenario
of housing going to outsiders and our resources used to house those who live in
Hyannis or North Hampton or Worcester.

Build it and they will come!

9:44 am est 

Housing Summit Fluff or Serious?

Is this going to be a fluff summit or you going to ask the serious questions?

1.How many affordable living units have been built in town since the first one
was built decades ago and what were the terms of their rental status?

2. How many units have gone from being affordable to being rented or sold at
market vaule since the first ones were built decades aga?

3. Affordable Housing developers are required by law to give money back to the
town How much money has Mr. Ted Malone returned to the town?

4. How many affordable rental units exist at this moment including the ones
associated with Hyannis Housing authority, the Barnstable housing association
religious groups. Habitat for Humanity etc?

5. When will Stable Path be built that was given $800,000.00 towards this
property

6. A man who made his money building affordable housing units became so rich
that he bought the Murchinson Property across from Provincetown Inn. Is he
building any in Provincetown?

7.How many people who are new residents to Provincetown or have lived here less
that five years occupy affordable housing units?

8. How many people came to town and received affordable housing units
immediately? How many are employees of
Ted Malone Past or present have received a unit in which to live?

Get these questions answered honestly and truthfully. Over the years we hear
that the number keeps changing because rental units had 10 or 15 year leases and
then went to  market rents or sale prices and thus each year we keep losing
rental stock but that allows for more development.

This madness must stop.
9:39 am est 

Wednesday, January 1, 2014

Re: Affordable Housing

FACT: you are ignorant

The  "facts" listed by a previous poster are incorrect.
You misunderstand the issue of units becoming market rate - this only happened
to 1 unit in the past two years.

"tons" of housing has not been built - in the last 8 years less than 100 units
have been built.

Anyone can APPLY to get these units but the FACT is 98% of units have gone to
completely local people

fact : a mixed income community is essential to the planning of any town and
contributes to stability of the local economy

FACT if taxpayers aren't interested in providing stability for all levels of
income then there is no town at all....if that's what you want then why live
here at all?
10:00 pm est 

Re: Affordable Housing

I live in an affordable unit and I could care less what anyone else
thinks. Thanks for paying for my affordable unit! Can't say I feel bad in the
least given the general attitude and character of people in this town. You
didn't get one? Too bad, move somewhere else. Plenty of other places in the
WHOLE WORLD to live. Stop being so hopeless. No one feels bad for you.
9:55 pm est 

Re: Jaran to Fight Dismissal

Yawn. I guess when all your toys are taken away, you throw a tantrum
9:50 pm est 

Obituary - Edith Carmen Codinha

Edith Carmen (Henrique) Codinha, a resident of Provincetown for most of her adult life, died December 30 at Seashore Point following a long illness. Mrs. Codinha was 89 years old. The wife of the late fishing captain Seraphine P. Codinha, Mrs. Codinha was a devoted wife, mother, grandmother and great-grandmother.

Moving from California following World War II, Mrs. Codinha, who had ties to Provincetown as a child, moved back to Provincetown permanently from California where she awaited her husband’s discharge from the Navy and the birth of their first child. Capt. Codinha, who had been a tuna fisherman in California prior to World War II, eventually acquired his trawler, the F/V Peter and Linda, which he named for his children. The couple was extremely well known in the community for their generosity, especially for activities involving St. Peter the Apostle Roman Catholic Church; their commitment to the annual Blessing of the Fleet, where Mrs. Codinha made hundreds of lobster salad sandwiches; and for their faithfulness in following all of their children's and grandchildren's school activities, including leading both a Blue Bird group and a Boy Scout troop when her children were young. When Capt. Codinha retired from fishing, the couple owned and operated Codinha's Yogurt Shop for over twenty years, the site of the present day Cafe Maria.

The Henriques, Mrs. Codinha's parents, had known Capt. Codinha's family in Gloucester when Capt. Codinha's family rented an apartment from the then Edith Henrique's grandmother, Joaquina Emilia. Eventually both families moved to San Diego, California where tuna fishing was extremely lucrative. It was there that the 16 year old Edith and the 21 year old Seraphine were re-acquainted, fell in love and married. They honeymooned by train from California to Gloucester and Provincetown. When Capt. Codinha's tuna boat was commandeered by the U.S. Navy, Capt. Codinha enlisted and Mrs. Codinha travelled wherever he was stationed until he was sent overseas.

Capt. Codinha, with 5 brothers and 2 sisters became very close to his brother Joaquin and wife Paula who lived in Magnolia, Mass. while the others lived in San Diego, CA. They travelled and spent a great deal of time together and with each others’ friends. Many a tale has been told of their infamous Christmas gatherings with 25-30 relatives, raw oysters where Capt. Codinha would shuck one, then eat two, loud discussions between the fishermen and the fish merchants in the families, and lots of laughter from the kitchen where the women prepared the turkey and last night’s leftover Codfish Head delicacy for Joe Codinha. Mrs. Codinha spent the month of December baking the traditional Portuguese desserts often with the help of the whole family and Paula Codinha, also a wonderful cook, would bring many of her specially made sweets.

Never one to seek the limelight, Mrs. Codinha was the ultimate volunteer and supporter. She dedicated herself to her family, caring for her parents and her husband in their final illnesses. When her husband passed away in 1986, she spent a great deal of her time with Marion Thomas, her aunt, Paula Codinha and Lou Labrincha, her sister-in-laws, a family friend Luana Klabunde and her daughter Linda Codinha O'Brien who shared her love of travel and gambling. Foxwoods and Reno were frequent destinations.

Born April 24, 1924 in Gloucester to the late Portuguese immigrants Manuel and Mary Emilia Henrique, Mrs. Codinha is survived by her son Seraphine P. Codinha, Jr., his wife Mary and her daughter Linda Codinha O'Brien, all of Provincetown; her granddaughter Kara Codinha of Brookline and her grandson Seraphine P. Codinha, III and his wife Autumn of Glen Ellyn, IL; her great-grandson Seraphine P. Codinha, IV and her great-granddaughters Kenley and Bridie, also of Glen Ellyn; her brother Manuel Henrique, Jr. of San Diego, CA; her aunt Marion Thomas of Rochester, MA; her sister-in-law Phyllis Henrique of South Carolina; several nieces and nephews, great and great-great nieces and nephews; and Mary-Jo and Susan Avellar, who spent much of their time growing up in the Codinha home. Mrs. Codinha was pre-deceased by her brother Vincent Henrique, his son Vincent Henrique, Jr. and her son-in-law Robert F. O'Brien.

Visiting hours will be held January 3rd from 4 p.m. to 6 p.m. at the Gately Funeral Home, 94 Harry Kemp Way in Provincetown. A Mass of Christian burial will be held Saturday, January 4th at noon at the Church of St. Peter the Apostle. Donations in Mrs. Codinha's memory may be made to the Provincetown Rescue Squad or the American Heart Association.

9:42 pm est 


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