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Saturday, December 31, 2011

New Police Station

"We can not build on Jerome Smith where the trailers were. Underneath
the parking areas lie the leaching fields for the sewer."


OK, how about on Motta field?  I have absolutely never seen anyone there.
7:06 pm est 

Housing issues

I vote NO on the Nelson Ave project !!!  And you can bet the neighbors will all
be there as well....  If locals who have been here were getting them, that would
be one thing but when someone comes here knowing they have no place to live and
get the units, that's just WRONG !  RESIDENTS FIRST......
7:04 pm est 

Housing

We do not need anymore..  They are not being filled with locals at all....  How
discouraging.. They want us to pay for others to live in them...  I know
families who have been waiting for two years...  Just recently a single mother
got a unit on Old Ann Page when she just applied a month ago while families have
been waiting years!  What's wrong with that picture ?  She wasn't homeless.. 
Supposedly that's the criteria according to Housing....When does this stop?  I
know many individuals who are very discouraged by the process....  It is
supposed to be based on income...  Well, who pays when they can''t meet the
rent?  How about the family who does meet the criteria and can make the monthly
payment?  Oh, they get pushed aside because they were told they are not needy...
7:03 pm est 

Affordable Housing

Let's Hope You Might Be right--Are We done With affordable Housing?

I surely hope so. Now we can expect Hyannis to be moving in on shankpainter
road. Just what we need. and those who really need it, well let them eat cake!
7:01 pm est 

More Housing Coming

Luckily, more housing will be built up near Nelson Ave.
5:53 pm est 

New Police Station

We can not build on Jerome Smith where the trailers were. Underneath
the parking areas lie the leaching fields for the sewer.
5:48 pm est 

New Police Station

he elementary school is going to be the new council on aging building
and also include a preschool. It can not be a police station.
5:47 pm est 

New Police Station

I watched a discussion between the finance committee and the finance
director regarding the capital program for the town.  If I understood what they
were saying they are working on a capital program which would list all the
capital improvements the town is going to need and it would include the airport,
the pier, the schools, repaving streets, everything along with a plan of how we
are going to pay fo them.  I believe they would put everything together and then
the Board of Selectmen would prioritize and decide which ones to recommend to
voters each April.

I'd think we should wait until we have a complete list or plan before we move
forward.  How do we know building a massive new police/highway building is what
we should be doing unless we know everything on the list?
5:45 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

Put the police station at the old elementary school.
12:37 pm est 

Re: Town Meeting New Police Station Vote Invalid

". . .In fact, if you want to get critical, then what your saying is no
cops in uniform should have been there even on duty officers. Again the
wussa-fication of America spreads!"


If you are the face of the police dept.  the PD may want to look at better PR
because they are going to need it.  As a former backer of a new PD bldg I'm now
questioning the need for a new building or anything as elaborate as proposed. 
Highway doesn't need a new building, they are just getting one because they want
to use that space.  Put a new scaled back building at the Jerome Smith parking
lot where the temporary town hall trailers were sited, plenty of space there,
easy access to route 6.

As a previous writer stated we are a seasonal town, do we need all the full-time
officers in January or February or March. . .?  Why do we have a Povincetown
police officer earning over $133,000 (2010 annual report on town web site)?  And
two others making over $100,000?  Why so much overtime?  What is revolving
account pay?

Truro police have twelve full time officers according to their 2010 annual
report.  No doubt the needs of Truro and Provincetown are very different in the
summer, but are they that different in the winter?  Truro needs twelve, we need
twenty?
12:36 pm est 

Police Station and Pier

I don't know if it's me or what but since this Police Chief has been here, he
has purchased a motorcycle that is totally unneccessary for a town like ours and
cannot be used during the inclimate weather. Due to small incidents that have
happened or alledged to have happened down the pier or whatever, he now wants to
put police coverage down there which many of us know is also not neccessary when
all he has to do is have the officers in the cruisers make more frequent trips.
Now he wants a new police station during hard fiscal and hard economic times for
this town and those who are struggling to pay their taxes. When does the town
manager stop giving him what he wants. It's well known they are going to do what
they want. So it is up to those who live and pay taxes to send them a message,
it has to stop and stop now. One of the rumors I heard since he has been the
chief of police in provincetown is, this is exactly what he did up in new
hampshire and only last 2 years up there before they gave him his walking papers. 

                                                                                                                   
                                                                           

12:32 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

Since it's us, the taxpayers, the ones that are gping to pay for
whatever is done about our police station, we should not cave in and feel that
this is a done deal.  This is not the right time to undertake one more capital
improvement project.  Also, when we vote on this, it should be by written ballot,
not by the usual raise of hands.
12:28 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

I Disagree

It is not a vote on where the new hihg-priced polcie station will be built. It
is about whether or not it should be built. This town seems to jump ahead of
itself on too many issues.
12:26 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

To:  "A police station IS a municipal building, and NO a modular
building is not a safe shelter for the public during storms."


Sorry, never heard of a police station anywhere in the state or country being
used as a shelter for the public during a storm.  How many times over the past
50 years has our police station been used as a storm shelter?  As cited before,
if a modular building is not a "safe shelter for the public during storms", how
could it possibly be approved by a town board as a storm safe haven for the
private sector?  And yet, it was.  You HAVE NOT even come close to answering the
question logically.
12:24 pm est 

New Police Station

The issue is, despite all the hoopla about uniform presence, etc. and
the desperate need for a new building, how much will it cost? How much EXACTLY
will it cost the average year-round homeowner trying to make ends meet to foot
the bill for another new MUNICIPAL dig?
And sorry, the blog saying modular isn't storm worthy COMPLETELY CONTRADICTS the
votes of approval of at least 3 TOWN BOARDS allowing just the same to house tax
paying residents.  Oh Yah, during a storm.
12:21 pm est 

Shankpainter Development

Just drove by - are we done with the affordable housing projects now ? Do we
finally have enough units ?

Will this ever end ?

12:15 pm est 

Town Meeting Police Station Vote Invalid

"Behavior that would be considered coercive would require an act on their part,
simply showing up as a team like they did and standing in the room is not
coercive or intimidating"


Nope. You are wrong. The law and case law are very clear. It's from Civil Rights
Act of 1964 and was updated in 1972. The Provincetown Police Department and the
Town Moderator broke the law.
12:13 pm est 

Re: Special Town Meeting

". . . Without public hearings, it would seem discussion of a warrant
article the best way to get in front of the selectmen. . ."



With a special town meeting we could vote to pay for the asbestos removal at
school and not wait til april. . .
12:11 pm est 

Friday, December 30, 2011

Re: Town Meeting Police Station Vote Invalid

Behavior that would be considered coercive would require an act on
their part, simply showing up as a team like they did and standing in the room
is not coercive or intimidating, if they were holding rifles and chanting
cadences then you have a point, they were showing that they care. In fact, if
you want to get critical, then what your saying is no cops in uniform should
have been there even on duty officers. Again the wussa-fication of America
spreads!
2:01 pm est 

New Police Station

If the police station is to be built north of rt 6. Lets make sure we
build some sort of a store front or building on commercial street that is
visible for police information.
1:29 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

A police station IS a municipal building, and NO a modular building is
not a safe shelter for the public during storms.
1:28 pm est 

Special Town Meeting

I think we need to have a public hearing on where the police station should be.
We probably do need a new building, but the placement of such a key building
needs discussion. Without public hearings, it would seem discussion of a warrant
article the best way to get in front of the selectmen.

How many signatures does it require to call a special town meeting to reconsider
the plans to put the police station north of Route 6? Does an official form
exist to do it? Anyone available to help collect signature?
11:27 am est 

Town Meeting Police Station Vote Invalid

The law is called section 11(b) of the Civil Rights Act and very clear
subsequent court rulings. The 11 (b) standard is that any behavior under color
of authority that might be coercive in any voting or public polling venue is
illegal.

To file a complaint, one does not have to prove that the behavior was coercive
only that it could have been. Further one does not have to show intimidation,
only the lesser burden of potential coercion.

That fact that the police announced they were in Town Meeting not because they
wanted intimidation, was a de facto acknowledgment of the same. And finally, the
Moderator's encouragement is further evidence specific intent of government to
influence the vote.
11:19 am est 

Re: New Police Station

I thought schools and other municipal buildings were used for shelter
during storms.  Not the police station.
11:17 am est 

Re: New Police Station

If you say modular isn't strong enough for a police station, you are
saying the 4 modular residential buildings on Bangs can't weather a serious
storm or hurricane.  Then how could they be approved for residential by every
town board if they are not safe?  According to the industry, modular is quite
strong.  And our building inspector is quite capable of ensuring that through
proper inspection.
11:15 am est 

Re: Police Station & Town Meeting Vote

Re: "Would you feel intimidated if you needed the police for something
major and they showed up in full force?  NOT
"

That has nothing to do with the conversation.  Should the police be there if
they are needed?  Yes, that's their job.  Should they show up in force when town
voters are debating a subject that relates to them?  They have a right to be
there if they are town residents.  But, it's questionable when instead of taking
a seat like every other resident they choose to stand around the room to make
sure everyone knows they are there.

11:10 am est 

Thursday, December 29, 2011

New Police Station

A public police station can NOT be a trailer or modular. It has to be
built to withstand storms and hurricanes, a place of shelter.
8:13 pm est 

But We Are Not Short Staffed

We have more than enough police officers. When the number of residents goes as
low as it is in the winter, we don't need the same summer full time police force
as you do with 750 people. That makes no sense. This is not about retirement
funds, pensions, overtime but about a realistic use of police in this town. We
are not Hyannis. We are not even orleasn. We are, yes, Sharon you should know
this, like West Goshen. and how many police did you have then and there?
7:06 pm est 

New Police Station

No doubt a new police station will be approved, no matter who shows
wearing what.  What must be considered, again, is the cost of said station to a
town that just footed the bill for a new town hall and library that are much
more than is needed functionally and realistically.  Modular, as much as I hate
to say it, is a viable option and should be strongly considered for commercial
use.  It's used for residential, why not commercial.  Some people won't want
this and will fight it.  They will want post and beam from scratch, high-priced
architectural services and all.  The town needs to be sensible about this
endeavor.   Build what you need for once.  It's not a fashion show.  If modular
was good enough for Bangs St., it's good enough for the police station.  I hope
the Selectman have the brains to look into this option and push for it to save
some money for once.  Visit some other towns and see what they have done and go
to school on that.
6:17 pm est 

Re: Police Station & Town Meeting Vote

Would you feel intimidated if you needed the police for something major and they
showed up in full force?  NOT!

So please, be adults... vote the way you feel regardless....
5:53 pm est 

Police & Voting

If the general public is somewhat intimidated by the police presence at town
meeting when voting on an article that regards the department, the selectmen and
the TA have tha ability to request that they not wear their uniforms to the
meeting if they attend unless of course they are on duty. I believe the police
aren't allowed to wear their uniform to court for the same reasons when they
testify. It's not uncommon for people to be intimidated by authority. The fact
is, they can't do anything to you if you don't vote their way. If you speak out
against the article and they do something in a retaliatory manner and it's
grossly out of line, they will be held accountable not only here but in court
(if it gets that far). Keep in mind also, the police will always do thier job,
regardless of any article the passes or fails.
5:35 pm est 

Town Meeting Police Station Vote Invalid

Police presence at Town Meeting
Trust me, they will be "told" to be there. The last time it was not an option.
One would think, if they want a new station that they would be allowed to show
up on their own.

Showing up in uniform is definetely "Intimidation". I don't recall any of the
previous Chief's making their Officers show up in uniform besdies the required
duty Officer(s)for the Town Meeting itself.

Note: If everyone I have spoken too shows up to vote against the new police
station do show up, remember it can be brought up again I believe the next day
"don't let them pull this on us and get away with it".
5:28 pm est 

Town Meeting Police Station Vote Invalid

"By the police being in the room you were intimidated? another example
of the wussa-fication of America. . ."



While I didn't find it intimidating I did find it very strange that the police
came into the meeting the way they did in a very orchestrated manner.  I leaned
over and told a friend it reminded me of the old Hitchcock movie 'The Birds'. 
Each time I looked up the number of officers present had multiplied.  It was
eerie.
4:18 pm est 

Re: Town Meeting Police Station Vote Invalid

By the police being in the room you were intimidated? another example
of the wussa-fication of America. and if no police were there you would say that
"if they wont even show up to the meeting, why should we give them a new
station" hahaha
1:23 pm est 

Re: Asbestos in School Building

We recently sold an older house near Boston that had asbestos on the
pipes in the basement.  Before we could sell, all asbestos (and there wasn't
much) had to be removed off the pipes and the property inspected by the local
inspector and signed off on.  We had to hire men with special hazmat gear and
special equipment and special disposal equipment.  It was a very expensive
procedure and that was for a few pipes in a small one room basement.
1:16 pm est 

Town Meeting Police Station Vote Invalid

Based on voter intimidation by Police officers posted around the room(as
encouraged by the very partisan moderator)makes the vote at last town meeting
void.

1:12 pm est 

Re: Asbestos in School Building

Re: "Means the pipes need to be replaced which means disturbing the
asbestos."


Anyone have an idea a to what this might cost?  Is it worth it for VMES?  What's
the alternative?

1:10 pm est 

PBG Elections

An interesting point about elections. I have yet to see the results of
the PBG election. I would like to know the number of votes and how many for each
candidate. These have never been posted. The PBG election has some serious
problems.
1:08 pm est 

Police Station

Oh yes, that makes sense.. get rid of police...  only until you need them..... 
Make a complaint, be told you have to wait your turn because there are not
enough patrol to respond.. then tell me that's a worth wild decision!  Believe
me, your call is just as important as the next persons and no one should have to
wait for the police...  Public Safety IS NOT a place to be short staffing!

1:05 pm est 

Wednesday, December 28, 2011

Re: Asbestos

"If it is present in the school, there are some who attended this school who may
want to know if they were exposed for years at a time......"


My understanding is that it is on the pipes in the heating system which are
under the floors.  No danger to anyone past or present unless the pipes are
disturbed.  Unfortunately the heating system just went down the crapper and
pipes are leaking water or steam.  Means the pipes need to be replaced which
means disturbing the asbestos.
8:17 pm est 

Re: Elections

Don't forget Selectman Santos! He garnered less than 200 votes even
though over 500 voters turned out! Now that's a protest vote if, I ever saw one!
8:14 pm est 

No New Police Station Please!

We dont need another $5million to be $7 million project. We finished town hall
at $9 million and the Library at another $9 million. Look around, please. who is
here? why do we need big city projects for a little town? Enough. No more
large-scale overblown and overpiad projects.

We don't need all the full time police we have. Hire summer police officers and
keep a minimum here in the winter.

Again, look around. who is here now? Few and fewer of us making a large police
force excessive and unnecessary--as unnecessary as a new big-money item police
station.

7:19 pm est 

Answers Please

The PBG discussion obviously hit a nerve.  This is important to
business in the town and needs to be straightened out.  Some other important
issues have also been mentioned by bloggers.  Any asbestos, even one iota, in
the Elem. School is unnerving.  State regulations are strick on this.  Who would
deal with this on the local level?  The Bldg. Inspector, Town Manager, or State? 
If it is present in the school, there are some who attended this school who may
want to know if they were exposed for years at a time.

LED lights purchased at a premium last year for this year's display are among
the missing?  Where are they?  Someone physically purchased them and disbursed
of them.  Where exactly are they?  In whose physical possession?  Some bloggers
have brought up some serious subjects.  ?????   How about some intelligent
answers.
7:17 pm est 

Elections

David Bedard only got 65% of the vote while running unopposed his last election.
Since he occasionally steps out of line,  Will "Mayor" McQuire run someone
against him this year?
7:13 pm est 

VMES

The VMES is the new library. Money pit. Buffoonery.  Maybe town will hire the
Northampton grave cleaner to use the ruined bike racks to beat the asbestos out
of the walls.  just a thought
10:54 am est 

Police Station

The town should repair the old station until we can afford a new one. It should
not be built at the DPW, it should be in plain site for the people to find it,
not hidden in a valley.


10:52 am est 

Tuesday, December 27, 2011

Compared to What?

Making sure I have this correctly - school committee talks about
asbestos in the elementary school building and someone is concerned about the
PBG elections and the story getting traction is the PBG election?

Hundreds of thousands for the elementary school and that's not the big
discussion?  PBG seems like a non-issue in comparison.
10:52 pm est 

Provincetown Police Station to Move North of Rt 6

It is no coincidence that the two selectmen who have the weakest support in town
are leading the charge to keep the police station out of town center. Watch for
Bedard to move to the no side when he gets ballot opposition.
9:58 pm est 

Re: PBG Issues

By laws were amended about 5 or more years ago to allow for single candidate
elections, due to difficulty in getting people to serve. This does not prohibit
contested elections if more than one person was nominated for a post. There were
two candidates on the ballot this year for one of the officer's slots. I pay my
dues, I vote, but do not do much more than that for the PBG. I'm grateful to
those who serve.
9:55 pm est 

Re: PBG Issues

I think the statement that the PBG MUST have 2 candidates for each
office is the point one poster was trying to make.


Not sure I believe it just because a blogger says it. . . but guess what?  I
don't care.  If I cared I would get a group of candidates together and have them
on the ballot.  Of course if none of my candidates won that would tell me no one
agreed with me.  That would be hard to swallow huh?
7:32 pm est 

Re: PBG Issues

 ". .Why not read the bylaws of the PBG. . ."


My guess is the poster has a life.  You are the only one bent out of shape over
this.
6:33 pm est 

Re: PBG Issues

Re PBG If the elections are not in keeping with the bylaws does that
mean the PBG election was illegal. Who is responsible? Does that mean that there
has to be another election with 2 for each office?
6:31 pm est 

Re: PBG Issues

Re: ". . .Unless you have facts that you can corroborate, please keep your
opinions to your self. . ."



Sorry doll, I'll give my opinion whenever I choose to do so.  And expect that
anyone else will do the same if they choose to.  Contrary to your high opinion
of yourself you ain't the boss.
6:30 pm est 

Re: PBG Issues

I think the statement that the PBG MUST have 2 candidates for each
office is the point one poster was trying to make. The entire slate is filled by
a nominating committee that consists of 2 people. Basically they are electing
all of the officers AND the board.
6:28 pm est 

Re: PBG Issues

Re: The person that wrote the following comment:  "I'm not sure we can
blame Rizzo, I heard he did not want to run again, but no one else was willing
to run for President so he stayed on."


Do you respond just to read your own words?  Do you have first hand knowledge of
Jim R running because no one else would?  If you do, then you should rephrase
your comments.  "I heard" = heresay = potentially spreading rumors.  Unless you
have facts that you can corroborate, please keep your opinions to your self.
4:07 pm est 

Re: PBG Issues


RE: the poster that wrote "By the way there is no legal issue with a
non- profit having only a single candidate for a position on a ballot, it
happens all the time. "

Why not read the bylaws of the PBG. It specifically states that all positions
MUST have 2 candidates.  I perceive this as a "good old boys" network.

3:47 pm est 

Monday, December 26, 2011

With Sympathy

My sympathies to former Chief Meads and his family and his many friends.
Condolences for this loss.
10:57 pm est 

Crabs

Hey, speak for yourself.  Some of my best friends are crabs, were at
one time or another crabs, know crabs, eat crabs, cook crabs, have rental
mattresses no doubt housing crabs, act crabby when things don't go their way,
have been seen with a crab or two in dark places and on sand bars, and the list
goes on and on.

Happy New Year to all who are crabby and all who are not.  We are all on the
same sphere so maximize the ride while you can.  And smile at crabs.  They
really do like it deep down where you can't see them smiling back.


10:56 pm est 

Blue Cross at Seashore Point

It's no wonder Seashore Point struggles despite its gold plated launch.

One reason is they don't take Blue Cross Blue Shield which is the largest
individual health insurance provider in Massachusetts, the most picked plan
among Town employees as well as among Stop & Shop employees (two largest annual
payrolls in Ptown). And more importantly, BCBS is the largest network of
medicare medigap plans in the country.

One has to wonder why Provincetown struggles to do what other towns do
routinely? Five years on. Excuses.


4:14 pm est 

Passing of Police Chief Meads

Another sad loss to P'town
I have heard that Ex-Police Chief Meads has passed away.
3:12 pm est 

Re: Joy to the World

Frank sends the right message! Crabiness is not what this town should
be about.
3:07 pm est 

Sunday, December 25, 2011

Town Hall Lights

Town Hall looks great this year as usual, but where are the expensive
LED lights we purchased a couple years ago that we were told would save us so
much money over the years from the low electricy cost?
11:38 am est 

Joy to the World

I have to admit that I would probably not have run for vp of the pbg
if it had been a contested race.  I would have felt bad losing, and I would have
felt bad causing someone else to lose.  I guess it can be hard to get folks to
run against each other in such a small community.          And with that I write
to ask that we turn down the crabbieness and that we all have a very Merry
Christmas, Hanukkah, or any other winter celebration you may partake of.... may
2012 be filled with peace, joy, and prosperity for us all... Let's all work
together to make our little village by the sea a wonderful place for everyone...          
Frank Vasello
11:36 am est 

Saturday, December 24, 2011

Re: PBG Issues

I belong to a dc area non-profit.  Each yr our nominating committee is
charged with finding a qualified group of individuals and they put forward a
slate of people, one for each position.  Any other individual may put themselves
forward as a candidate if they have the signatures of five other members.  Most
of the time the nominating committee slate runs unopposed.  Our nominating
committee does their job, they find qualified individuals to fill each position.
It sounds almost exactly like situation with your PBG group here.
5:21 pm est 

Re: PBG Issues

I have not wanted to respond to the ridiculous posts on the PBG
elections but my name was referenced with the totally erroneous claim that while
I was president (5 years) on one year there was no election.  Absolutely false. 
There was an election every year.  I can't imagine where that writer came up
with that one.

Also, every attempt is made to get multiple candidates including weekly
solicitations on the PBG member emails which clearly that one poster never read. 
The officer positions are typically filled by directors moving up the ladder so
there is some familiararity with the organization.  When directors decline to
run we have candidate shortages.  Additionally the nominating committee normally
has a number of members who express interest and then once they are notified
that another is also running for the position, they drop out to avoid the
potential embarrasment of losing.  That has been an ongoing problem as well.

I also had to laugh at that poster when they threatened to not rejoin the PBG
and instead join the Chamber.  First of all businesses should be member of both
as each orgainzation serves a complimentary purpose and needs the support to
town businesses.  However, the nominating committee of the Cahmber only presents
to the membership one slate of candidates with one name per position and the
members can only vote it up or down.  At least the PBG has competitive positions
whenever we can sourse candidates.

If the poster would like to get more involved with the organization and doesn't
want to run for office I suggest they join one of the many member committees
that help steer the organization or at least attend member meetings before they
continue with factually erroneous postings.

Steve Tait
PBG President from 2005-2010
Director 2004-2005, 2010-2011
5:17 pm est 

Re: PBG Issues

Person A is asked by nominating committee to run for vp of PBG. 
Person B doesn't like there is only one choice so person B runs for VP. 
Perceived problem solved.  If person K is sitting at home hoping someone will
call her and ask her to run she should put herself out there for people to vote
or not vote or her.

By the way there is no legal issue with a non- profit having only a single
candidate for a position on a ballot, it happens all the time.  It is  problem
however if a person is not allowed to run for office if they express a desire to
do so, but that doesn't appear to be a problem here.
1:50 pm est 

Re: PBG Issues

You keep calling it a conspiracy. I do not. Do not take things out of
content. Those are your words. My point has been all along that the group
putting together the slate for voting only asked one person for each spot and
once they went through their list of choices and filled a spot, they went no
further. When a ballot is comprised this way, who IS making the decisions.
Please keep your promise and do not respond to me.

Note to Frank, thank you for a civil response. I don't think you understand the
problem. It has nothing to do with whether I want to run or not. It has to do
with not having a ballot that represents any choices and once no ballot at all.
12:25 pm est 

Re: Seashore Point and Blue Cross/Blue Shield

Thanks to the posters who wrote that
their BC/BS was accepted at Seashore
Point. I only posted information taken
directly from the Banner. Perhaps
the Banner should contact the facility
to clear this issue.
12:23 pm est 

Happy Holidays!

HAPPY HOLIDAYS EVERYONE FROM THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PLACE ON THE
PLANET...!
12:20 pm est 

Asbestos in School?!

Watching school committee meeting from 20th - asbestos in the
elementary school?  If they find this to be true this is a major expense for
town.  Where is the 'hundreds of thousands' going to come from?
12:19 pm est 

Mad Hatters Ball

Please stop whining about the PBG.  You reap what you sow.  And to all
those complaining about people sitting in front of their computers badmouthing
instead of acting, well, hello, that's what you are doing too. Give thanks we
have the unlimited resources to fund all these new municipal projects so
desperately needed ad nauseum. 

Ptown must be the only town flourishing financially, in the world. Why convert
what you have when you can build brand new at the highest cost?

Merry Xmas.  Happy New Year, maybe.
12:17 pm est 

Re: Seashore Point and Blue Cross/Blue Shield

So previous posts indicate that Blue Cross covers Seashore Point
services. And you warn against jumping to conclusions, then how come Sharon Lynn
stated to the Banner that Parker could not use Blue Cross at Seashore?

And by the way, a more compassionate statement from her to the media about
Parker's accident would have been nice. She and Jaran need to get training on
how to make effective public statements.
12:14 pm est 

Friday, December 23, 2011

Provincetown Library Board Has no Light in Their Collective Belfries

I agree that the library belfry should be lit at night. That was the
whole point, after all.
5:39 pm est 

Re: Thankless Task

I was asked to run as the vice president of the pbg, the position was
uncontested... it is not my fault no one else elected to run...
as board members we attend monthly board meetings, and are also asked to chair
an additional committee, which usually meets twice a month.  We are also asked
to volunteer throughout the year.  Some of use do more of this volunteer work in
the off-season while others do more during the season.  It depends on our
individual schedules.  It is a bit of a time commitment...

If you think that the pbg board is some sort of secret society, please come to
board meetings, express your opinions and concerns, or better yet, run for a
position next year, we would be happy to have you...

Frank Vasello
4:38 pm est 

Re: Thankless Task

". . . Three people are involved, Rob T. Bob S. and Jim R.  Conspiracy?
. ."


OK now your paranoia is just funny.  Those three are running the PBG and are
keeping you from running for office?  You have a vivid imagination.  I will not
respond to your posts any longer.  You are a waste of my time.
4:36 pm est 

Seashore Point & Blue Cross/Blue Shield

I,also, have had out-patient re-hab at Seashore Point and the did
accept Blue Cross/Blue Shield.  I think people are jumping to wrong conclusions
about Seashore Point's insurance policies.
3:53 pm est 

Re: Thankless Task

No, I am afraid you don't get it.  An election means more than one
choice for every spot.  Seems if there are 10 spots, there are 10 candidates. 
So far that is all that has happened on the ballot. One year no ballot at all
and I think Steve T. was president then. You can't say that he was forced to
stay if he didn't insist on an election.. No one is talking about Jim Rizzo
being totally responsible.. But the buck for this practice has to lay on the
desk of someone since Roosevelt has died and will not be taking on the
responsibility. Three people are involved, Rob T. Bob S. and Jim R.  Conspiracy?

Draw your own conclusions. YOU are the only person skirting the issue and using
these terms.  The poster who mentioned that this ballot and practices may be
illegal and  if reported, may effect the PBG's Tax Free corporate status which
is something that Mr. Rizzo SHOULD know.
3:46 pm est 

Re: New Police Station
 
I think we all know that eventually a new police station is needed and, I think
we all would vote for such but now or next year is not the time and, that too I
think the general population here in town would also agree on. The problem is,
this Chief and Town Manager don't hear you.

Also, keep in mind, that they need to fund the police patrol for the pier and
there will also be a fair amount of money needed if the police station is voted
on.Every time something is built or remolded in this town, they come back to
town meeting asking for more and you will be crazy not too think this Chief and
Town Manager are not going to do that.

I recently found out that they want to eliminate the custodians job at the
police station after he has been doing it for 25 years. Even though he has been
offered a job with DPW, the underline factor is why do you think they are really
doing that. So they can use his salary for other purposes within the dept. If
you don't agree, then maybe you need to get new resources.
12:40 pm est 

Thankless Task

I really don't think some of you get it.  No one wants to run for PBG
president so your crazy conspiracy doesn't hold water.  Steve Roderick and Steve
Tait were both president for more years than they wanted to be president, now it
appears Mr. Rizzo is stuck in the same position.  Why?  Because no wants to run
for that office, it's a thankless job.

If the PBG is really such an evil organization to you I'd suggest you may want
to not belong to the organization.  For you to be sitting at your computer
taking pot shots at those who are willing to put themselves out there really
doesn't benefit anyone.
12:37 pm est 

Seashore Point & New Police Station

Just a few points. Seashore point did accepted my blue cross plan for
rehab after an operation. I do think the elementary school would make a fine
police station. And if the police chief gets a new station he will use that on
his resume to get a position in a bigger community which could even happen
before a new one is built. Lastly, lets not forget maintenance of our buildings
and end up with another case of costly deterioration.
12:17 pm est 

Seashore Point

I too have BC/BS, pay taxes and when I need
services I will have to go to Brewster,
Chatham or futher away. The whole deal
the Town made with Deaconess( not to
be confussed with the Boston Hospital)
always stunk with me.I want accountabilty
why they do not take bc/ bs.
The Town should do all they can for Mr. Parker
who apparently is only sueing for medical expences.



12:00 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

Put the police station at the Veteran's School.  Location provides
easy access to and from the community, plenty of parking, plenty of space for
offices, meeting rooms, cellblock.  And no new building.
11:11 am est 

Time For a Freeze

I agree with a poster who once said that if the police station had
come first, would people have voted for the library after it. Many people are SO
correct in the tax impact of this situation. In these economic times everyone is
spending less, except for Provincetown. The police station  now? Then high
school renovations next? Unless a curb is put on for a few years until the
economy is given a chance recover, there will be many who cannot afford to
continue to be here. We do need a police station, not necessarily state of the
art, but a few years waiting could make all the difference. Time for a freeze on
spending.
11:00 am est 

Critical Underestimation

Of course Mr. Parker is going to sue the town.  He's really a very
nice man. The newspaper article said Mr. Parker wanted to rehab in 
Provincetown.  The town can and should make this happen. I think the chief
underestimated Mr Parker's intelligence because he is frail. I don't think the
Chief can get out of this one as easily as he thought. Man up

10:32 am est 

Re: Songs of the Season

These 2 are priceless -

Candice got run over by a reindeer walking home from Squealing Pig last night

"Miricle on Bangs Street"

May Candace never get run over by a reindeer - she is one of this town's biggest
assets.


10:28 am est 

Police Car Victim vs Seashore Point

Just read the recent Banner about Mr. Parker,
police car victim. Apparently Mr. Parker
needs rehab and cannot go to Seashore
Point because they don't take Blue Cross/
Blue Shield. He is forced to a rehab away
from Town and his friends.  What good
is Seashore Point to many of us who
have health insurance coverage with a
major Health Insurance Corporation like
Blue Cross/ Blue Shield?


Signed,

A Taxpayer who funded Seashore Point
and yet won't be able to use the facilities.
So much for the so called service to the
Town's residents.

10:10 am est 

PBG Issues

Let's make fun of a poster that can't spell, or type very well and
remove the meaning of what they said. Let's cover with name calling and axes to
grind  and again cover the poster's issues with electons in the PBG. I feel they
have a valid point about no choices. It does become a hand picked bunch of
people chosen by the president and his nominating committee.I agree with them
and not with those who become hostile. There is always a reason for that and
it's usually not good.
10:08 am est 

Vote NO Tax Increases!

TOWN OF PROVINCETOWN. 2012 SHOULD BE A YEAR TO PLAN, NOT A YEAR TO
SPEND, BY  BUILDING  NEW OFFICE BUILDINGS. ETC.  LETS NOT PUT MORE TAX BURDENS
ON THE TOWNS ELDERLY PROPERTY OWNERS,  WHO HAVE SUPPOTED THIS TOWN FOR 50 YEARS
AND MORE. AT THIS TIME IN THIER LIVRES THEY ARE STRUGGLING  TO HOLD ONTO THEIR
HOMES THAT CONTAIN A LONG LIFETIME OF FOND MEMORIES, OF BOTH GOOD TIMES AND
SURVING HARD TIMES. I  WILL VOTE NO TAX INCREASES FOR 2012.
10:06 am est 

Housing

So I hear housing lotteries are no longer the way to get chosen?  Why would it
be, Ted has all his help in them.  He no longer needs to pretend it was a
lottery selection.  Now they say say it is based on ones homlessness!  Were
there not homeless people when he chose his help?

How convenient...  If it can't be done fairly then let's stop the building! 
This is getting out of control...
10:03 am est 

It's Not the Next in Line

We do not need a new high-priced $5 million police station. enough of this spend
it all and spend it right now.

This makes no sense. It should not even come up as a request. sanity would
require another option.

I'm tired of greed--on the part of town officials. greed that cost $9  for town
hall "renovations." $9 million for this disaster of a library when most of the
money went to architects in Boston and not to purchasing books. that is what
libraries should be about.

then moving DPW to the elementary school when they were fine at the Grace Goveia
building.

Let us top this egrecious spending. we are a small town and the answer cannot
continue to be: overides.

That is mismanagement and not good leadership.
9:29 am est 

What Price - Inappropriate Statements?

Jaran's  inappropriate statements in the Banner about the accident
caused by one his staff people, unfortunately, is going to cost us some money,
because there's going to be a lawsuit, and the taxpayers will have to fork up
the dough to pay for the lawsuit, including legal fees.  This is something that
was not in the picture when we approved $120,000 at the April Town Meeting, for
hiring a consultant to design a new building for Jaran.  We need to stop this
design, pay for the lawsuit, and then in a few years, if Jaran doesn't make any
other litigious statements to the media that we have  to pay for, then let's
pursue this rebuilding.
9:24 am est 

Re: New Police Station

I strongly oppose the townspeople from taking one more fiscal burden -
the building of a new police station. We need a break from all this building and
renovation.  Enough already!
9:19 am est 

Thursday, December 22, 2011

Re: PBG Wake up Call

"Believe what you want about the PBG. . ."

You may believe whatever you want.  Sometimes people have an axe to grind and
that  clouds their judgement.  Many people are aware of who you are and I have
to believe they would be OK if you didn't renew.  You could probably follow that          
right out of there and you would probably be happier.
7:46 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

Didn't someone else, with a probable college education, suggest a
modular police station as a lower cost option? Or is it that when someone
finally makes a sensible and feasible suggestion, it goes ignored?  As usual.
7:43 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

I wish I could divulge who I am but I cannot do so but please trust me when I
tell you this. All the towns people especially the tax payers are going to pay
dearly for all the renovations and building of the new police station.

The town manager and police chief do not care about you, they are going to do
what they want and if you vote for this, then good luck and remember you read it
here first.

Be very careful of what you vote for at the Town Meeting as long as this Chief
and Town Manager are in charge.
7:41 pm est 

Re: PBG Wake up Call

"Can the Pbg please send over there phograper for free"


Wow.  The spelling and grammar are funnier than the post. 

Thanks.
7:39 pm est 

Provincetown Public Library

Does anyone know why the library belfry isn't being lit at night?  We
paid millions of dollars to renovate the place, and the belfry stays dark. It
should especially be lit at this time of year.
7:37 pm est 

Re: PBG Wake up Call

Believe what you want about the PBG. They do not have an election.
They have a list of people that the president wants so that he can run the PBG
from another place. The whole thing is a mess, in my humble opinion. How can
there be an election when only one person is running for a position? The person
who was on the nominating committee years ago probably did a good job of filling
a ballot with choices. I haven't seen a choice on that ballot for years and one
year there was no election at all. If it is in the laws of the organization that
more than one person has to run and that is not being done, they could lose
their tax exempt status from the state. If someone does that, you will buy the
garbage. And as far as Erin having a free photographer, I am not happy if that
is where my dues went. I am willing to listen and have a discussion but will not
participate in name calling and garbage comments. They are in no way
constructive
6:48 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

I have a college education and I do not think we need a new whiz bang
multi-million dollar police station.  There must be other lower cost options
available.
6:46 pm est 

PBG Party Time

I am having a Christmas Party. Can the Pbg please send over there
phograper for free.  Seems like there's a lot of stuff in the closet

12:08 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

Did we notice that the two selectmen who don't want a new police
station never went to college? How did we allow those              in office?
12:07 pm est 

Re: PBG Wake up Call

"That is the underlying reason why I am thinking of changing my
membership to the chamber. The elections are not being run honestly."


You do what is best for you.  I belong to the Chamber although they provide very
few direct benefits to my business.  I belong to the Chamber because overall I
think they benefit the town.  Their elections have no effect on me, nor do the
elections of the PBG have any effect on me.  If I felt the elections of either
organization affected me I'd get involved and be a part of the change.
12:05 pm est 

Re: PBG Wake Up Call

"Don't start that nonsense about what have you done blah, blah, blah.
It only puts a smoke screen about what really goes on."


Sorry, not buying your garbage.  Member run organization, members run for
office.  Members don't want to or can't run?  Members shouldn't complain about
who does run.  I've never volunteered to run for office for the PBG so I don't
have a right to criticize those that do.  Any member can request to have their
name on the ballot and if they receive enough votes they are in office.  Your
conspiracy theory doesn't work here.

Take a look at other non-profit organizations in town such as the Chamber or the
Monument.  Many of the same faces are always there.
12:02 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

The police station belongs in a visible and accessible location not in
a valley on the north side of Route 6.
9:28 am est 

PBG Wake up Call

The nominating committee for the PBG only solicited enough people to
fill the slate. Period. I don't blame the poster for  wanting to go to the
chamber. Don't start that nonsense about what have you done blah, blah, blah. It
only puts a smoke screen about what really goes on. The election was a farce and
has been for several years. 2 people at least should be running for every
position, not just who the nominating committee selects. Were you solicited? Did
you receive an email from the PBG asking you to run? The election can hardly be
considered that. The nominating committee is asked by the Board president Rizzo
and then puts in who he "suggests" Wake up here and don't start the blaming.

9:27 am est 

Songs of the Season

"Candice got run over by a reindeer walking home from Squealing Pig last night"

"Dental Floss is comming to town"

"Away in a Pier Shed"

"Miricle on Bangs Street"

"I saw Ms Richfield Kissing Santa Claus"

"O little town of Provinetown"

"Silent (highland) Light"

"We wish you a (cran) Berry Christmas"

"God rest ye merry selectmen"

"town hall bells"


9:25 am est 

PBG Strikes Again!

The PBG Photographer was paid by the PBG to photograph Rob & Erin's
personal Christmas party. Anyone else would need to pay for his services to the
PBG but newly hired Executive Director Erin is already taking advantage. Not to
mention taking a paid vacation when anyone else would need to earn paid time
off. The PBG strikes again!
9:22 am est 

Question to the Past PBG Nominating Committee Member

If so many people are begging to run,why is there only one person running for each
position?  The bylaws of the PBG clearly state that this must be the case.( I
checked that one out) I have noticed that there is only one candidate for each
office year after year or no election at all and the excuse is always there is a
new director.  This has the odor of people who do not want to give up their
positions and hide it in the guise of "new director"  That is the underlying
reason why I am thinking of changing my membership to the chamber. The elections
are not being run honestly.
9:20 am est 

Pay it Forward!

The holiday spirit is alive and well on the sand bar. i was at the
post office today and not only did someone hold the door for me they also
allowed me to pass ahead of them in line because they had an armful of packages
to ship. at the bank the teller waived a certified check fee for me citing it's
almost christmas. i then went into the printing shop at whaler's wharf to make
some copies and send a fax to my lawyer and they didn't charge me for either
saying 'it's the holidays - pay it forward'. i plan on doing just that. it's an
easy concept and is much better than complaining and misery that plagues this
blog. count your blessings. be thankful for the nice people we have in this
community and pay it forward to someone else. merry christmas
9:17 am est 

Re: New Police Station

Who cares what the boys in the fire dept. want?  At this point, a
modular addition or station makes the most fiscal sense and that, my dears, is
what it is all about.  Do the math and forget about whims and desires.
9:15 am est 

Wednesday, December 21, 2011

Re: New Police Station

Even though we have this fire station that sits unused most of the
time the fire department boys club will never go for it.
8:01 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

Do we need a huge new police station and highway garage with all the bells and
whistles?  That's another conversation, but we do have to get our police
department out of the building they are currently housed in.

I agree with the new police station and the idea of modular. Lets face it, it
should be a functional building, not some architectural marvel. the selectmen
should at least do their due diligemnce and look at the idea. The DPW building
is a whole different thing. Look at the mess they've made down there over the
years. They ve made the place the way it is as opposed to the way the police
department is. A little neatness goes a long way. Should the DPW get a new
garage so they can destroy that too?
7:40 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

I think the new police station should be where the fire station is.
They could put on an addition like so many other towns. It was shot down by the
fire department more than a year ago but it makes sense. Combining them is a
smart and economical thing to do. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! I love
Provincetown and would never want to live anywhere else.

Peace
7:38 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

If a new police station is needed so badly, wouldn't this be the
perfect venue for modular construction?  It's already in town.  Take down two
birds with one stone.   A brand spanking new police station and a cut in costs
by millions.  Seems like a win, win and a viable answer to the high cost of a
new station built from scratch on site.
5:18 pm est 

Re: Some are but Memories

"Regarding Rizzo. If no one was solicitated because rizzo decided to
run for another term, how could that open the position to other members."


I've served on the nominating committee.  No one solicited is hardly what
happens.  Everyone is begged to run for office.  Getting someone to run for
President is like pulling teeth, no one will do it because they aren't
interested or don't have the time.  As a past nominating committee member I can
tell you after trying to get people to run for president we are often left with
the option of pleading with the current president to run again or having no one
on the ballot for the position of president.  I was NOT on last year's
nominating committee so I can not say for certain that is what happened, but it
has been my past experience that is how it works.

For a member to say they won't renew because of the situation is so short
sighted it is laughable.  No one (including the writer) would run for president
so when the past president has to assume the position again by default you blame
him or the PBG?  Look in the mirror my friend?  The Board is made up of
volunteers who are members of the organization.  Have you done your part?


4:59 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

"Can't we be content with what we have? Why does every department feel
it needs something new, something big, something expensive. It is an addictive
stance that is fed or at least not discouraged by town officials. Their
addiction is feed by our taxes. Time to say NO."


I suggest you go over and ask for a tour of the current station.  I had the same
opinion as you until I visited the police station.  The place is an unsafe dump. 
Do we need a huge new police station and highway garage with all the bells and
whistles?  That's another conversation, but we do have to get our police
department out of the building they are currently housed in.


4:37 pm est 

Re: Some are but Memories

Regarding Rizzo. If no one was solicitated because rizzo decided to
run for another term, how could that open the position to other members. I just
don't think it was the right thing to do especially with Sanborn leaving too.
How long will they be gone? Anyone know? I am not happy with the pbg and am
thinking about not renewing next fall because of this. Any insights would be
appreciated.
9:42 am est 

Provincetown Does Not Need a New Police Station

Can't we be content with what we have? Why does every department feel it needs
something new, something big, something expensive. It is an addictive stance
that is fed or at least not discouraged by town officials. Their addiction is
feed by our taxes. Time to say NO.
9:40 am est 

Tuesday, December 20, 2011

Re: Some are but Memories

Regarding jim rizzo and the pbg...
i believed that it was felt that since erin was a new executive director, it
made sense to keep jim as president for continuity/stability...
with the ability to teleconference, jim is able to participate in board meetings
etc, he will be back in the spring
i suspect he wont run for president next year...

6:37 pm est 

Re: Some are but Memories

Re: "I thought Sanborn was leaving too. What's with Rizzo? Why did he
run for the president of the PBG if he is not in town? Where is he? From what I
hear Arin is just on vacation."


From what I heard Sandborn is out of town after the first of the year,
Jan-March.
I'm not sure we can blame Rizzo, I heard he did not want to run again, but no
one else was willing to run for President so he stayed on.  If someone else was
willing to step up the plate he was more than willing to step aside.  So if you
are a PBG member and aren't not willing to or don't have the time to run you
can't blame Rizzo.
3:06 pm est 

Re: Some are but Memories

I thought Sanborn was leaving too. What's with Rizzo? Why did he run
for the president of the PBG if he is not in town? Where is he? From what I hear
Arin is just on vacation.
10:10 am est 

Thanks for the Insights

So many posting here with good ideas. Thanks for letting me know what is going
on here in town. This is key. Thanks because otherwise I wouldn't know too much
of what is really happening here.
10:05 am est 

Monday, December 19, 2011

PTV & Cass Benson

Watching the school committee budget meeting on PTV I'm wondering why
Cass Benson is on that committee.  She doesn't appear to understand any of the
issues.

I figured she is on the board because she's got two kids in the school. Don't
forget Cass is one of those over privileged developers of so called affordable
housing.

She and her partner got all the money they needed from CPA funds to convert the
old Roach Motel. She sure came out sweet on  that deal. Then there is the 4
family next to the health food store on Bradford. Those 4 families are gone from
town replaced by 10 small units.
If anyone wonders how to make $$$ she is a great example
10:39 pm est 

Re: Provincetown's Taxes

"You are also right I do have a negative perception of Town Hall
operations. .  ."



My opinion is that there are some people who have been in their position for
some years who aren't good fits for this town.  There are also some very good
people working for this town, unfortunately a negative performance can many
times outshine a positive performance.  We all have opinions as to which town
employees are positive or negative for the town, I happen to think the woman who
runs the council of aging is excellent to point out a positive.  But, this town
needs to be sure it has the best in each position.
8:59 am est 

Professionalism & Compassion

I don't think any of this is about the Chief of Police's compassion, humanity or
any other issue. Relative to the pedestrian injury incident, unfortunately, the
Provincetown Chief of Police made a clumsy attempt to avert professional
responsibility for his department's action.

1) Chief of Police blamed the pedestrian while excusing his department.

2) The Chief used the complexly associated word "stumbled" to label the victim's
walking. Stumbled is especially egregious in the context of the time and place
of this incident.

3) The Chief of Police publicly minimized the severity of the injuries, delaying
needed support of friends and community resources from traveling up Cape to
visit the injured man in the hospital.

4) He misled the press with the only obvious benefit of making himself look less
culpable.

The position of Chief of Police carries significant leadership and integrity
requirements, even in periods of stress and crisis. In this case it seems those
key characteristics were not apparent.
8:56 am est 

Re: Some are But Memories

To the poster who said Erin Atwood is gone, that is incorrect, he will
be taking some vacation/holiday time, like most of us, but he will be here
working at the PBG all winter..
8:50 am est 

Re: Some are But Memories

"Jim Rizzo President of the PBG GONE
Bob Sandborn Tourism Director GONE
Erin Atwood Director of the PBG GONE
Candace of the Chamber of Comererce HERE!!!

Thank you, Candace"


Bob Sandborn - ummm still here
Erin Atwood - just went on a holiday vacation, I think that's allowed.
Candy - always worth thanking
Jim Rizzo - I don't get it either, did he move away?  If he wasn't PBG president
it wouldn't be any of our business, but that's a strange situation.
8:48 am est 

Sunday, December 18, 2011

Re: Provincetown's Taxes

You are right, that is praise. The version in my  article includes a shorter
excerpt, and I no longer have the printed Banner hard copy to see what that
version was. Or perhaps you have the original letter? Whatever the case, point
taken. My error.


You are also right I do have a negative perception of Town Hall operations. Town
of Provincetown continues to lag behind towns of similar size (either by revenue
or population) yet you can't seem to get the basics done.  And far too often
Town officials hide behind excuses of the legacy of a now distant previous Town
Manager.
12:27 pm est 

Re: Provincetown's 99%

I think some like to come on this blog and write outlandish things
just to get people riled up.  I think the 99 percent writer is doing just that. 
If she is not I would like her to expound on her views and how she would change
Provincetown to make it better.
12:11 pm est 

Some are But Memories

Jim Rizzo President of the PBG GONE
Bob Sandborn Tourism Director GONE
Erin Atwood Director of the PBG GONE
Candace of the Chamber of Comererce HERE!!!

Thank you, Candace

12:09 pm est 

Re: Professionalism & Compassion

I happen to know Jeff fairly well and I don't see any evidence of him
being the kind of person who would knowingly lie about something. He is indeed a
"facts based" man, and perhaps his bare-bones description was interpreted in
print as being dispassionate and cold. But again, knowing the man he is one of
those rare people who truly takes the human condition into account when he deals
with the public and those he associates with privately. I would urge those who
are perhaps ready to go after him to flesh the truth out before offering up
disparaging theories about his character.
12:07 pm est 

Re: Provincetown's 99%

An ignorant remark such as wealthy gay community is best left alone.
When I first read, it I was ready for a tirade at the keyboard. It was a remark
filled with hatred. People who walk around with that type of venom in their
heart will not pass it to me, nor will anyone's response stop how they feel. By
repeating it here, you give it life. By ignoring it, you give it death. Your
choice.

12:04 pm est 

To: Catherine Sofia

Regarding your post, I have a few questions:

Are you gay or lesbian?

Are you a property owner?

Why do you think you're in the 1%?

What are you hoping  for??  Please articulate your vision if you could wave a
magic wand, and also what your doing to achieve that vision ( besides
protesting)?
12:01 pm est 

Future Prospects

My major concerns are the future.  What the consequences to the
actions of today will bring in 20, 30 years.  Affordable housing
conglomerations, dwindling year-round population combined with unemployment,
dying school system, water issues, septic issues, infrastructure issues,
substance abuse issues, elderly issues, overdevelopment issues, tax issues, etc. 
I don't care who is gay or who isn't or how much they own or they don't own or
where they winter.  I care about the town and how it is being run and directed. 
Simple.  In what direction are we headed?  A positive one for the town, or a
positive one for those deciding the direction we are headed?
12:00 pm est 

Seems to Me that Caring Warm Residents Can Also be Critical and Analytical

These qualities are not opposites. If someone cares about this town, they can
also be critical of policies, politics and management. One does not negate the
other. In fact, truly interested residents and caring town people need to be
critical. I appreciate those who post here and provide insights and analysis.
11:51 am est 

Saturday, December 17, 2011

Re: Provincetown's 99 %

If you feel  'the wealthy gay community and their lackies' have taken over why
didn't you and your kind of people stop them?  Or were you and your kind of
people too busy selling out and taking the money?
7:30 pm est 

Re: Provincetrown's 99%

RE: "I am embarrassed and disappointed that the wealthy gay community
and its lackies are so willing to destroy a hundred years of a diverse basically
working class community.

The well to do of this town just love to givecharity but they obviously
do not have a clue about what real economic justice looks like. . ."




Just curious - what does your view of 'real economic justice' look like?  How
are the 'well to do of this town' taking real economic justice away from your
'working class community'?
7:29 pm est 

Provincetown's 99%

What exactly is the "wealthy gay community"? How do you define "well
to do"? These generalities are absurd and divisive. I am gay but am not sure if
I am part of any gay community. How many gay people do I have to know and how
often do I have to spend time with them?  What is the minimum? Is there a
maximum? I work long hard hours at a decidedly good job and feel well rewarded
for it. Am I well to do? Surely compared to some people but to many not. I would
never be called upon by 60 Minutes to tell my success story that is for sure. In
return I never really think about the sexuality of people nor do I work about
their incomes and lifestyles. I thought we were all just supposed to get along
and be compassionate towards one another.
7:26 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Taxes

"I say:  Not exactly: That's called being damned with faint praise.
Actually not praise at all, just a bit of surprise?"



So your glass is usually half-empty?  The DOR guy congratulated Provincetown for
doing something it had not been able to do in many years.  And complimented the
town manager for the achievements in the past several years.

Quote

"The town has come a long way over the past several years, and I commend you and
everyone for their efforts"

You may think this is a negative, I can't help you with your perception.  Within
the past year the town was removed from the state watch list and now has set its
tax rate.  The messes left by former town manager Bergman have taken a while to
clean up, but it sounds to me like we are heading in the right direction. 

Sorry, I can't find the negatives here that you see.
6:45 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Monument & Museum

"The Cape Cod Pilgrim Memorial Association is a private, non-profit,
educational organization that shall maintain the Pilgrim Memorial Monument,
buildings and land to accommodate libraries and collections."
 

(Taken directly from the website.) Provincetown does not own it...
6:20 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Monument and Museum

Re:"I wonder who actually owns the Monument?"

From the PMPM website: The Pilgrim Monument was founded in 1892 as the Cape Cod
Pilgrim Memorial AssociationCape Cods oldest not-for-profit organization.

The Town owns no part of it.

Want to change the board as you say you do?  Then become a member (for $35 per
year), and go to the members' meeting and speak up and vote your mind.

Or let others do it.
6:17 pm est 

Re: Professionalism & Compassion

Just wondering how long it will take the unfortunate victim of being
hit by a police car to file a lawsuit against the town? It's too bad for all
involved.

6:14 pm est 

Banner & Cape Cod Times

Interesting that the CCT investigated the accident on Shankpainter while the
Banner simply wrote down what the Chief Of Police said. In this case our earnest
neophyte reporter was led astray only to be shown up by the Cape Cod Times.

Ouch.
6:11 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Taxes
 
You said...

"While Town Hall and Finance Committee are abuzz about getting
Provincetown's tax rate approved it should be noted. . . I'm willing to let them
celebrate this year.  Even the guy from the state thought it was quite an
accomplishment."

I say:

Not exactly: That's called being damned with faint praise. Actually not praise
at all, just a bit of surprise?

6:09 pm est 

Re: "Professionalism and Compassion"

To the person who wrote "Professionalism and Compassion" letter.....

Thank you for such a toughtful and well written letter.  If I may, Ditto from
me.

I am ashamed to have a police chief with such low standards.  If he can avoid
all the facts in such a public way, what will happen to the average citizen whom
he may dislike?

How can we have a chief that does not tell the truth?
6:07 pm est 

Provincetown's 99%

I tune in to this blog every so often to find out what
is happening in town.  There is no other place to get
this information.

It is sad that most of us are unwillingto sign our names and to
speak out in public.  It is atestament to how controlled we all feel
by the cartelthat rules town govt and the boards.

I am embarrassed and disappointed that the wealthy gay
community and its lackies are so willing to destroy
a hundred years of a diverse basically working class
community.

The well to do of this town just love to givecharity but they obviously
do not have a clue about what real economic justice looks like. They
gather together in their homes to have fundraisers to give a hundred to
someone who needs serious medical attention,a few hundred to someone
about to lose their rental, or for one of them to go work with the poor in
some other country.

We need a revolution in this town but it looks more like
we are headed the other way.  Provincetown like everywhere else.  Occupy!!!!!
Catherinesofia
6:04 pm est 

Monument:

I wonder who actually owns the Monument?  I wonder if the National Park Service
could take it over and remove the local politics from this treasure? Or maybe
find a large corporate sponsor. It could become the TDBank Monument or the
Gillette Monument.  Or even better sell the monument and Motta Field to the
Indians for a casino.  But seriously, does the Town own this  thing or is it a
private not for profit that actually owns the structure?  If the town is in fact
an owner they should be looking at it's  board of directors and initiate action
to remove them or reduce their power and get it back into the hands of the
People.
11:30 am est 

Provincetown Taxes

While Town Hall and Finance Committee are abuzz about getting
Provincetown's tax rate approved it should be noted. . .

I'm willing to let them celebrate this year.  Even the guy from the state
thought it was quite an accomplishment.
9:31 am est 

Friday, December 16, 2011

Swim For Life honored at the State House, Boston on World AIDS Day

Prayer Ribbons displayed

Photo archive and 2011 video online

Boston World AIDS day
 
Jay at State House World AIDS Day, Boston

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Greetings,

 

 

As 2011 comes to a close we are excited to report the launch of our Swim 25 celebration - September 8, 2012 is our 25th community fundraiser!

 

We were honored to be featured at the first World AIDS Day event at the State House in Boston, initiated by me through Representative Sarah Peake.

The Prayer Ribbons provided the backdrop for all speakers, who were from the departments of public health from the state and Boston, as well as politicians. The Swim for Life was the only community organization that shared the podium.

 

 

Attached below are my remarks, which included a few short but telling stories written on the ribbons. Also, be sure to check out the extensive Swim archive Mike Syers has put together on Flickr, and please send us your photos to share. And watch the exciting action videotaped by Daniel Llata at the 2011 event on Provincetown Community TV:

http://www.provincetowntv.org/?s=provincetown+pieces

 

 

Have a Happy and Joyous New Year.

Peace,

Jay Critchley

Photo archive and submission:

http://www.flickr.com/people/swim4lifephotos/

 

10:34 pm est 

School Committe and Cass Benson

Watching the school committee budget meeting on PTV I'm wondering why
Cass Benson is on that committee.  She doesn't appear to understand any of the
issues.  Why did we put her on that committee?
10:25 pm est 

Provincetown Pilgrim Monument and Museum

Just saw the CC Times article about the $1.3M facelift for the
monument.  I hope the DPW is not involved.  Lots of fancy accounting goes on
there.  Maybe they wanted Jim out of the way first.
10:23 pm est 

Re: "A Minor Accident

"Be terrified that our chief outrageously and publicly tried to explain
away this "unfortunate accident" .  .  .



Sorry, I have more confidence in our chief than you do and realize there a still
a few of the 'good ol boys' that are still trying to undermine him and get rid
of him.
10:21 pm est 

Re: Working Stiff's Perspective

I absolutely agree with this poster. How on earth are people who only work three
or four months a year and 'collecting while vacationing' the rest of the year
approved for affordable housing? Shouldn't you have to prove that you actually
have an income to qualify to buy a house or condo? How do you get approved when
you are collecting unemployment for eight months out of every year? Isn't that
kind of like asking the government to buy you a house???

Gee, sounds great! Where do I sign up?
10:18 pm est 

Thanksgiving;

I am thankful that there are only a handful of people that like to naysay,
second guess, and criticize. I have met hundreds of people that live here that
are caring, charitable, trusting and welcoming.  It is sad that people will say
things on here, like the recent post about the police, without having any first
hand knowledge of the incident. It is great that we have a forum like this. I
only wish people would post facts and not conjecture. We all know what happens
when you assume. Please post responsibly.
10:16 pm est 

"Professionalism and Compassion"

Ok so a police officer according to the accident report fails to yield the right
of way to a pedestrian in the cross walk.  Further, because of the officer's
failure to yield the right of way as he was required by law to do, he 'side
swipes' and seriously injures a pedestrian.

But the officer is not cited for this offense.  Why?  The police chief has
determined that because the officer did not hit and run but instead called
rescue personnel because he saw someone lying in the middle of the road, it was
fine.

How low we set the bar for Provincetown police officers.  All they need to do is
not commit a felony by hitting and running and they're fine.

I'm sure the officer is and was upset and I'm sure he had no intention of
hurting anyone early in the morning.  Yet, he failed to provide a basic right to
a pedestrian and because of that the man is still in the hospital.

This should be kept in perspective; it was an unintended non-serious offense. 
But since bodily injury was caused, it is appalling that the officer was not
even cited for failure to yield right of way.

It is identical to the case of the officer who joy rides his patrol car on the
Provincetown airport runway and loses control of the vehicle. No problem, all
routine.

What exactly do Ptown police have to do before they are cited?

This absolutely confirms my impression that the only reason why former chief
Lundborn of Truro was charged with drunken driving was because he was discoved
by a park ranger.  Had it been a Truro (or probably Ptown) police officer who
came upon him, they would have concocted a story about him having to swerve to
avoid a deer or a coyote and no charges would have been filed.

Police, it's time to stop covering up and start accepting responsibility.  We're
all human and we all make mistakes.  Let's admit it, accept the consequences and
then move on.
10:12 pm est 

Re: A Minor Accident

"Went off Balance. Yeah,,,,,,,,,that's it"


The Chief saying the pedestrian "went off-balance and stumbled into the police
vehicle" does not explain how a pedestrian and police vehicle were in a
crosswalk at the same time. What's more the minimizing of the injury insults us
all, but must infuriate the injured citizen.

Hopefully, the Chief will apologize in public for blaming a handicapped senior
for getting hit by a police vehicle.
10:06 pm est 

Re: A Minor Accident

Jaran's statements regarding the accident shows very poor leadership
skills.  All he needed to say was that he would comment once more details of the
accident were obtained.  But he set it up do that the reader  feels pity on the
driver, while blaming (already!) the pedestrian. This is bad news!
10:02 pm est 

Self Congratulations? Really?

While Town Hall and Finance Committee are abuzz about getting Provincetown's tax
rate approved it should be noted over 300 Massachusetts town and cities have
accomplished the same thing and have done so every year and done it without out
any fanfare.

Yet, it took Lynn over 5 years to get it right. So why all the self
congratulations since towns with much smaller staffs, have been doing this on
time and with the math correctly submitted for years and years?


From the Banner:

..Yesterdays news and the personal e-mail congratulations I received from the
director of accounts at the Dept. of Revenue lifted a huge burden that has hung
over the town of Provincetown for the past decade, said Lynn, adding that for
her, personally, it is a burden she has carried for the past five years.....


Link

http://www.wickedlocal.com/provincetown/features/x1761812749/Joy-to-the-world-tax-rate-set-in-time-for-Christmas-in-Provincetown



9:57 pm est 

Re: The Myth of 3,000 Year-round Residents

Two winters ago the post office estimated the population to be in the 850 range.
Last winter it was thought to be in the mid 700 area. I believe we are headed to
the third consecutive winter of HISTORIC LOW POPULATION perhaps  650-700.

There is little rental housing. There are few winter jobs. Thus the Shankpainter
development is at least better than the continued abandonment of our ghost town.

p.s.

The ghosts have also fled.
9:54 pm est 

To: Voices in the Wind

Thank you!
9:40 am est 

We Now Know Who Chief Jaran is!

Read the article in yesterday's Banner titled "Police truck hits pedestrian".

Be terrified that our chief outrageously and publicly tried to explain away this
"unfortunate accident" by suggesting that a 60 plus year old disabled resident
of our town "went off-balance and stumbled into the police vehicle."  Blame the
victim.  Nauseating!!!  Unethical!!!!

Please Board of Selectman and Town Manager get this under control!




9:38 am est 

Enough Affordable Housing

Provincetown has 3000 year round residents if that. How many require Affordable
housing ?  Certainly not the number of units that have been or are being built.

It is such a shame that this town which is so beautiful and beloved by its
residents and property owners has to be at the mercy of a few politicians, board
members and developers.

This has been the most beautiful place on earth and the above mentioned are
turning it into an over developed and over crowded mess
9:36 am est 

Re: Just Curious

Thanks for the info.
9:34 am est 

A Working Stiff's Perspective

AFFORDABLE HOUSING

My coworkers worked in the summer and dashed off to sunnier climes in the winter
all of their adult life and spent all of their time sipping cocktails on the
beach while collection unemployment. They came back saying,"How was your
winter".

They returned all tanned and bragged about their $100 bottles of cologne which
they bought and showed off their jewelry and talked about the bargains etc.

Now they plead poverty and want affordable housing. This is what galls us
working stiffs.


9:33 am est 

40-B Housing

40-B Housing is for the homeless, people in drug rehab who are also getting
social security payments and the elderly.
9:31 am est 

Re: A Minor Accident?

Re: "When the police hit someone, it is not a minor accident."

"Well, yes in this situation it is.  No one was hurt, no damage done, it's a
minor accident."


This was NOT a minor accident. I know the Victim quite well.
He was knocked Unconscious and didn't regain consciousness till the Ambulance
was almost to the hospital. He has significant injuries. His knee was operated
on Wednesday andmore surgery may follow. He was hurt, He has staples and
contusions in various places and faces a long recovery.

I know it is always fun to rag on the Police, I do it my self,
but this is a tragic serious accident that happened to our neighbor and friend.
I am sickened by the response of the police. Just because he is handicapped and
uses a cane does not mean he 'just fell down' and wasn't "really" hit. Give me a
f'n break.But that is what the Chief wants you to believe.
Watch out folks, you could be next!


9:30 am est 

Housing

Now the word is that there is no more lottery housing....  So how is one
picked...  Oh, I get it... you need to be homeless, on drugs with a live-in
boyfriend who isn't suppose to be there!

And no one even does surprise inspections...  It's the honest people who they
are refusing!

Great going Ptown just what we need... more problems and less respectful
people...
9:26 am est 

More Options

Better start considering sticking a Walmart with a Subway on the old
carnival grounds. Not only for employment, but dining options also.
9:25 am est 

Peace

"Let there be peace on earth and let it begin with me."

"Love one another" "All people are created equal"

Happy Holidays Provincetown
9:22 am est 

A Minor Accident?

So you all know, the Provincetown resident struck has been handicapped for
sometime perhaps his entire life, in recent years he has dealt with the same
geriatric problems we all will encounter.

While his injuries are minor in some regard, he remains hospitalized maybe not
for the specific injuries but for the complications. He wasn't needing to be in
hospital until he was struck in a crosswalk.

So whoever said no one was hurt was very very wrong. By the way, the Banner
dramatically underplayed the injuries based only on self serving reports of the
Provincetown Police not the CC hospital.
12:06 am est 

Thursday, December 15, 2011

Re: Section 8 Housing

Most people on section 8 & or disability do indeed work and give back
to the community where they live.
4:59 pm est 

Re: Just Curious

The markers at the end of Bradford and Moors Rd are for the planned extension of
the bike lane!
4:43 pm est 

Just Curious

Does anyone know what construction is planned at the intersection of Bradford
St. Extension and Moors Rd.? There are a bunch of survey stakes on the corner
opposite where the old Moors Restaurant was.
3:06 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

After an officer ran a cruiser into the muck at the airport, and
another hit a pedestrian, a new station may be the answer to improving
Provincetown public safety.


If you give them a nicer place to stay they won't be out running around town
getting into trouble!


2:40 pm est 

'Tis the Season For More Af-fraudable Housing...

Have no place to live?
Don't feel like working for a few years?
Just won a disability claim from DSS?
Just feel like dropping out of society & live on the "dole"?

Hear ye, Hear ye and Come one and come all,
Provincetown MA is the place to live for next
to nothing!  ...no really.

Yes indeed folks! You too may qualify for luxury
living among the many millionaires who summer here.

All you need to do is know how to milk the system.
Ask anyone who has obtained one of these
precious units.
Many of them know how to get around the game-board
and win.
It's Monopoly for the new millennium.

Yup, just get paid under the table and
say your unbalalnced and the land at the
end of the Cape is your oyster.
2:38 pm est 

Re: A Town Asleep

Re:  "And all in a petite little 3 square mile area."


Bravo. There is much cause for worry. Think of our future generation trying to
live here and what mess we leave behind. oh, that is right. They would have
already moved to Truro or Eastham.
2:31 pm est 

Re: Section 8 Housing

RE: "Who cares if they have section 8 or not. And nobody
should care if they work or not. This town needs more year rounders!"


Such an ignorant comment. Think about what you posted. If a year rounder has no
income, how do you expect them to financially give back to our community? It is
just the opposite. We taxpayers have to give more to keep social services
funded. Or is it that the census count would matter if we fill the town with
indigent people?

2:22 pm est 

Pier Police

If we cannot train our officers to drive cars and trucks, what makes us think we
can train them to use boats and guns properly?

Why is the town going to pay for all the police activity on  the pier?   Isn't
the pier-corp responsible for all financials?

I haven't noticed a big influx of crime on the water.  Do the 6 weeks of boating
activity warrent a full time cop and 3 back up personnel?  What are we
thinking??
2:20 pm est 

The Voice in the Wind

I heared ther jus mite be some people wit dahrker skin than mine livin
down Shankpainter way... and sum o them mite have less money than I do...
ohhhhh, the town is goin to da dogs!! Why caint ever'one realize that if yo poor
then youse only gots yo self to blame?? How dare town o'fishals alow them po
folks in here? Lets bild a big ol fence around da town, keep em low lifes out!
Ohhh, what if fer the foist time in Provincetown histry theres sum folks wit
drinkin or druggin problims livin here?? What if they aint rich and classy like
me??Now that would be horrrrble!!
2:18 pm est 

"The Projects"

When I was growing up, a section of town was called "The projects". When I said
that I lived at such and such a street they would say, "Oh, by the
projects"..(the projects, by the way, were a mile away.) This is just Human
nature.

Anyone who lives in the Shankpainter housing projects "The Projects" will have
to get used to that nomenclature as well. In this town I'll say Such and such
restaurant near the boatslip; or Such and Such a place down from Town Hall.

Now it will be, I'll meet you at the gas station near the projects. The stop and
shop: turn at the blinking yellow light and keep going, it is just past the
projects.
2:16 pm est 

Re: Low Income Housing

"...we are going to have people  NOT only from Hyannis but from Brockton, Fall
River, New Bedford and other projects moving here..."


That is correct!  We do not need the low lifers from these areas moving here. 
We have our own degenerates that have been living in town for generations.  Why
should these low lives wash ashore get in the way of our free ride?  Let's
exclude all out of towners from the dole.  Don't let them get even a share of
the good thing we have going.

2:13 pm est 

Re: A Minor Accident?

Re: "When the police hit someone, it is not a minor accident."


Well, yes in this situation it is.  No one was hurt, no damage done, it's a
minor accident.
2:09 pm est 

Stop & Shop Cashiers

Why doesn't stop and shop do something about weird cashiers
oversharing about their personal lives? It makes me uncomfortable, and I'm sure
I'm not alone.  I'm afraid to complain because I don't really want to get anyone
in trouble, but- nobody cares, dude.
2:06 pm est 

Police Station
 
I'm all for a new police station. It will keep our prisoners safe and hopefully
keep some of the officers off the street.

Really? After an officer ran a cruiser into the muck at the airport, and another
hit a pedestrian, a new station may be the answer to improving Provincetown
public safety.
11:55 pm est 

A Minor Accident?

When the police hit someone, it is not a minor accident.
11:23 pm est 

Shankpainter Never Had to Look This Bad

The great pines should have been kept. We could have built something with class
and beauty. but no, we give developers a million dollar property for $1 and then
we are silent. We let them control what happens. This makes no sense and so we
have ugliness under the guise of affordable housing. Plus this development with
have businesses and will compete in rents with other places in town.

We are a tourist town and we should attempt to make this town beautiful--not turn
into slum-looking properties for outsiders. at the end, it is the developers who
make money and the town, as to its residents, lose.
11:22 pm est 

Affordable Housing

What is missed is that anyone can live in these low cost housings:

The town has funded many of these projects. Look at the money and that
is around $800,000 that Ted Malone received for affordable housing on just this
one project on Nelson Avenue. And then Ted Malone received even more town
support for earlier so-called affordable housing that ended up housing his
staff--look at Monika. Look at A. J. Allon and then Rex MacKinsie.
What are we paying for? Either outsiders from Hyannis who are on the street or
staff of Ted Malone. This is a cruel joke on many of us.

And sadly the people who live here and who really need affordable housing never,
ever get a chance to live in these units.
11:19 pm est 

Mixed Housing

Are all the housing projects in  town "mixed" economically, low-income
and non low- income?
11:12 pm est 

Wednesday, December 14, 2011

Pedestrian Struck in Crosswalk

"I've heard a handicapped pedestrian was struck by a Provincetown police car in
the crosswalk between the Police and Fire Stations
."


It's in the Banner, just a minor accident.
6:53 pm est 

Low Income Housing

My Dear, we are going to have people  NOT only from Hyannis but from Brockton,
Fall River, New Bedford and other projects moving here. The trouble in some of
these other poor cities is that New York drug gangs wanted to take over the drug
business in these MA mill towns.

A woman has a baby, gets housing and her man gets a place to crash. It happens
all the time. A woman with a dependent child gets income and housing and food
stamps (Food stamps are now a credit card that they swipe at the stop and
shop--no more "food stamps" stigma).
6:08 pm est 

Low Income Housing

I only hope the housing on Shankpainter Rd goes out to the individuals and
families who have been on the list for at least a year of longer and we don't
again say you need to be homeless to qualify.  Why would one have to be in the
street before they are eligible?  That is just ludacrist.....   Please... review
the applicants and pick the honest way!

Just because someone has a place to live currently, doesn't mean they should not
be eligible.  Pick w/i Provincetown first..  They are the people who will stay
here!
6:06 pm est 

Affordable Housing.........Units Wait and See

With the development of the three low income housing developments in town, it is
hard to keep straight which ones are mixed income, which ones are only for the
homeless and people in drug rehab etc. and other 40-B eligible tenants.

Is the Race Point Rd and the other Housing Development on Shank Painter Rd only
for 40-B homeless units for people recovering from drugs and the homeless

From what I understand, only year round, full time Provincetown residents who
are below the poverty line will be eligible to put their names on the list to
rent one of the one-bedroom units that are an affordable housing unit.

I also thought that Some units are going to be for rent at the current Market
price--they aren't all going to be for the homeless in Hyanis.


6:04 pm est 

Re: Shankpainter Housing

The rental housing on Shank-painter is MIXED income! It is NOT low
income only at all! And yes anybody who lives in the United States can live
there, just like anyone can live here in town now.
6:01 pm est 

Pedestrian Struck in Crosswalk

I've heard a handicapped pedestrian was struck by a Provincetown police car in
the crosswalk between the Police and Fire Stations.
Any information?
6:00 pm est 

Re: Section 8 and 40-B Housing

There is a waiting list of over 6,000 people at just one housing authority. We
have the Housing Assistance Corp in Hyannis, The Barnstable Housing Authority,
the ABC housing group in MA etc.

I heard a government official state that this housing is open to anyone in the
country or its territories who qualifies: Puerto Rico included.

Don't you wonder how all these strapping young men and women, riding around in
trucks and SUVs all have their affordable housing units?

I remember hearing a guy say that he wants a two bedroom unit so he can rent out
a bedroom in the summer to make money.
5:59 pm est 

Re: Section 8 Housing

When renting with section 8 housing, you can only be out of your
rental one month. If you need to be away longer, you need to get permission from
HAC.  Nobody can be away for the winter with this program.
5:57 pm est 

Re: Section 8 Housing

When renting with section 8 housing, you can only be out of your
rental one month. If you need to be away longer, you need to get permission from
HAC.  Nobody can be away for the winter with this program.
5:55 pm est 

Section 8 Housing

The idea of the affordable rentals is for anyone who needs year round
affordable housing PERIOD!   Who cares if they have section 8 or not. And nobody
should care if they work or not. This town needs more year rounders!
5:53 pm est 

Section 8 Housing

The comments about the 'Section 8 people from Hyannis' seem to be a
little disconcerting - what is it?  We don't want 'those kind of people' living
here in Provincetown?

Having said that I'm not sure who is expected to live in the affordable housing
units being built on Shank Painter.  Unless you work for the town, the Stop &
Shop or one of a few restaurants for the most part we don't have year-round jobs
here.  I'm not trying to stir things up, only to better understand the issue. 
Are we building these units for people who live here year-round or only the
part-time seasonal folks who go somewhere else in the winter?
1:59 pm est 

Police Station Costs

What might one expect from the Police Station Construction project. Each of
these projects has had a cost overrun of 50% or more from original vote of Town
Meeting to completion.

Library  (approaching 300++% ?)

Freeman Street Repairs (so far)

VMES rehabilitation to Community use (so far, more coming)

Phase II of the Sewer

Phase III of the Sewer (so far)

2011/2012 Commercial Street Repaving (Distance twice reduced rather than dollars
increased, percentage not calculated)

MacMillan Pier

1:56 pm est 

40-B Housing

Provincetown is 3 miles long and 1 mile wide. It is a place of neighborhoods.
Suddenly developers are plopping a dense, low income housing project in an area
with storage facilities and a gas station and an oil company and a gas company
and this low income housing is supposed to be integrated into Provincetown?

Federal tax dollars were used to build this development. We are a country of
350,000,000 Americans and 75,000,000 live below the poverty level so they are
all eligible to live in this housing development.
1:52 pm est 

Shankpainter

Does anyone know the percentage of the units on Shankpainter that are
earmarked to be affordable? I have to say i looks ugly right now. Sorry for the
people whose homes abut it. The cramped nature reminds me of the Bronx. I guess
Elaine Anderson is fine with it since she lives on the East End.
1:49 pm est 

Low Income Housing

The fact is that we have a low income housing development on Shankpainter Rd.
You can dress it up all you want--but that is what it is. Low income housing in
our "Industrial Zone".

For years a one family home has languished because developers and the
Powers-That-Be-who-are-their-champions wanted housing developments instead of
integrating folks into established neighborhoods.

You can put lipstick on a pig--but it is still a pig.
9:45 am est 

Low Income Integration

It is true, what we have is a definable area that is low income housing. It is
advertised as a place that will offer 40-B housing for the homeless and section
8 for the elderly on limited income and women with dependent children.

This is an undisputed fact. Landlords should have been offered market value
rents so they could rent to low income folks and families.

What we have a designated low income housing district on Shankpainter Rd and
soon on Race Point Rd.
9:43 am est 

Tuesday, December 13, 2011

Re: "I've Talked to Landlords"

From your comments, this 'landlord' friend of yours is willing to rent an
apartment for more money but wants to be able to have inadequate electrical by
way of extension cords (can you say fire hazard) and gaps in the floorboards
(can you say energy efficient) and have the tenant pay for heat.

Sounds to me like your friend is a slum lord looking to make money from section
8.  But since he HAS to be inspected, he'll just rent a sub adequate unit for
top dollar.
6:51 pm est 

Affordable Housing Architectual Style

What is the Shankpainter housing architectural style? Here it is folks:
The-low-income-housing-identification-style.

Who is going to want to live in this fishbowl that screams "LOW INCOME HOUSING
PROJECT" except the desperately homeless on 40-B housing from Hyannis?

Instead of integrating people into neighborhoods with multi family homes--they
developers use our tax money for low income developments.

I've talked to landlords. They have told me that if the state would pay a decent
rent--they would rent to section 8 people.
All that section 8 will pay a landlord is $900.00 a month for a one bedroom
apt-heat included-and the landlord has to jump through hoops with yearly
inspections: no extension cords, no gaps between the floor boards (on 19th
century homes) etc. etc.

5:34 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

We definitely need a new police station. It's how much of an
investment can the town afford to make that is the issue.  A completely
renovated town hall and library has tapped the taxpayers as far as they can go
in this economic climate.  I don't believe in conspiracy theories but am
wondering if the cards would have fell the same for the library if the police
station was built first.
No sky is falling on the new developments in town. I will keep my feelings to
myself on these. So far observation of Shank Painter doesn't show a match to
Provincetown's architecture at all and there is still another level, total 3 to
go. That everyone can see but no one can stop.
12:48 pm est 

Pier Story

I didn't post the original, but it is a cut and paste from today's Cape Cod
Times.

Here is the link for attribution:  http://www.capecodonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111213/NEWS/112130316
12:45 pm est 

New Police Station

Does anyone think that the need for a new police station with our
decline in current year round population has anything to do with authorities
anticipating problems stemming from future occupants of the affordables on Shank
Painter and the Nelson Ave project?
11:49 am est 

Re: An Inevitable Truth

"The sky is falling"  I definitely agree that it is a good phrase to use
when someone starts to get people riled up when nothing has happened. There are
plenty of issues to deal with that are in the here and now.  Tackling them first
would be a better solution. Perhaps doing that would prevent the sky from
falling. 

Enough said

10:55 am est 

Illegal Possession Charge

ANOTHER GREAT HIRE ON MACMILLAN PIER! KEEP UP THE GOOD
WORK PROVINCETOWN!

Seasonal Assistant Harbormaster John DeMatteis has been charged with illegal
possession of Percocet, a pain reliever containing oxycodone, as part of a
narcotics investigation by local police and federal agents, according to a
police report.

A criminal complaint naming DeMatteis was issued Monday in Orleans District
Court, and he has been summoned to appear for arraignment on the single count
involving 11 pills on Jan. 9, court records show.

"You guys got me," DeMatteis said when police approached him in his driveway,
according to the police report.

DeMatteis, 63, was first employed as a seasonal assistant harbormaster by the
town in fiscal 2009, according to town records. He earned $14,000 in fiscal year
2010.

DeMatteis did not return a call for comment Monday.

Police officials said they expect to charge other people in the case.


Agent calls UPS
At around 11:15 a.m. Nov. 9, Provincetown police Detective Scott Chovanec and
two federal agents began a surveillance of a Conwell Street home where the
resident is suspected of illegally selling pills at various locations in town,
the police report states.

At around 11:30 a.m., federal Drug Enforcement Agency Special Agent Thomas
Millar placed a call to the United Parcel Service of America Inc. and within
about five minutes a UPS truck arrived at the residence and delivered one
package from the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs containing 224 oxycodone
pills. The resident signed for the package and took it.

At around 12:15 p.m. police saw the Conwell Street resident leave the house, and
over the next hour the person made four vehicle stops; one on Court Street, one
back at the residence; one on Priscilla Alden Road and one on Bradford Street,
according to the police report. At around 1:30 p.m., Chovanec saw DeMatteis, who
is suspected of buying the pills, drive along Conwell Street, pull into the
resident's driveway and enter the house. Less than 10 minutes later, DeMatteis
returned to his car and then drove to his home on Commercial Street, where
Chovanec and Millar pulled in behind and parked.

In front of the police, DeMatteis voluntarily reached into his right pants
pocket and pulled out a plastic bag containing white pills and folded U.S.
currency, according to the police report. He voluntarily relinquished the bag,
which contained 11 pills and $800, all in $50 bills, the police report states.
DeMatteis allowed the two police officers to search his vehicle, and no illegal
items or contraband were found.


'I'm not a drug dealer'
DeMatteis said he had known the resident on Conwell Street for 10 years,
according to his statement to the police. About 18 months ago, he began to lend
the resident money, approximately $500 each month. The resident would pay back
the money and "give me about eight to 10 pills as a gratuity," DeMatteis said,
according to the police report.

"I'm not a drug dealer," DeMatteis told Chovanec and Millar, according to the
report. "I've got a bad back, and that's what I take them for."

Provincetown Police Chief Jeff Jaran said Monday afternoon that the police
department's detective unit has been actively investigating narcotics cases in
town and "will continue to do so."

Special Agent Jason Kravetz with the federal Department of Veterans Affairs and
the Office of the Inspector General, along with other Provincetown police
officers, was also part of the surveillance, according to the police report and
Jaran.

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10:22 am est 

In Response to the Person Who Posted the Following:

"I think it would be less costly to try to buy the building next door, that
probably won't be around much longer and just add onto the current facility."


The Provincetown United Methodist Church, next door to the Provincetown Police
Station, is a 'building' that will be around for a very long time.  It houses a
congregation, a thrift shop, a soup kitchen, a food pantry, a place for
meetings, and has an open door to all in need.
10:09 am est 

Re: An Inevitable Truth

Re: "Sorry, I'd have to agree with the poster who wrote it, one or two
posters come on here and blow an issue out of proportion.  As if the  end of the
world (or Provincetown) is rapidly approaching.  The sky is falling is the
perfect description of those who want to make an issue where none exists."


Sounds like you must be the person who keeps making the "sky is falling"
comment. How could anyone else possibly think this is a mature or constructive
way to respond to someone's issue?
10:06 am est 

Re: "We Need to Revise Zoning by Petitioned Warrant"

Go for it, get involved. Get it on the ballot and see if the rest of the town
supports your view.

Neighbors who receive abutters notices and others also ought to get involved in
specific cases. Show up at the darn meetings or at least write in. It makes a
HUGE difference and did so just recently.
12:52 am est 

Monday, December 12, 2011

Re: An Inevitable Truth

"This is not the first time I've seen this incredibly obnoxious
response to someone's serious issue on this blog. It is a very insulting
way to belittle someone else's problems. It is constructive in no way. . ."



Sorry, I'd have to agree with the poster who wrote it, one or two posters come
on here and blow an issue out of proportion.  As if the  end of the world (or
Provincetown) is rapidly approaching.  The sky is falling is the perfect
description of those who want to make an issue where none exists.
6:21 pm est 

Re: An Inevitable Truth

Re: "The sky is falling, the sky is falling.  Oh no Chicken Little,
what will we do?"


This is not the first time I've seen this incredibly obnoxious response to
someone's serious issue on this blog. It is a very insulting way to belittle
someone else's problems. It is constructive in no way. Why does the operator of
this blog allow such pointless insults?
5:39 pm est 

Re: Resources

SL fanboy wrote:

"If you want to stop build out on empty land by all means lets bolster the land
bank through increase in taxes to fund it and buy out the development rights at
free market rates."



I say

This is done by zoning in every jurisdiction in the United States. Yet. Ptown
zoning is so broken and the zoning board so easily grants waivers s/he probably
believes what is written above. Right now, the zoning system is so "corrupt"
that the land bank is buying land and development rights for land that is not in
fact buildable (Dunes Edge & Snail Road lots and earlier, Hawthorne Barn,
Suzanne's Garden among other parcels).

Bottom Line, is we need to revise Zoning by petitioned warrant.
4:25 pm est 

Re: Resources

1) 1996 average daily water withdrawals: 1,144,68 gallons
2) 2010 average daily water withdrawals: 776,830 gallons.

The year-round population has gone down 2/3 and water use 1/3. That's
interesting.
1:44 pm est 

Re: Police Station

I think it would be less costly to try to buy the building next door, that      
    probably won't be around much longer and just add onto the current facility.
11:13 am est 

Re: Resources

The alarmist postings on how we are running out of water and thus should halt
all development are just that, alarmist statements unbutressed by facts.

Here is a fact
1) 1996 average daily water withdrawals: 1,144,68 gallons
2) 2010 average daily water withdrawals: 776,830 gallons
So in 2010 average daily withdrawals went down 33% from 1996.

Source: www dot provincetown-ma dot gov/DocumentView.aspx?DID=361

- this is before the leak detection program
- this is before the massive new migration to sewer system which will likely
make people even more sensitive to their water usage
- new development under the stretch energy code is required to use much more
water efficient fixtures
- redevelopment of older properties will replace old water hog fixtures and
appliance with much more efficient ones.

Migration to sewer system means much less nitrogen pollution going into our
water table and the bay.

A redundant water supply is being built. This does not supplement water supply
but provides backup as required by the DEP.

Also worth noting that the state maintains stringent oversight on water usage
and maximum daily withdrawal rates.

There are legitimate arguments against overdevelopment, lack of water and sewage
disposal resources are not among them.

Regarding the land bank, all for it. If you want to stop build out on empty land
by all means lets bolster the land bank through increase in taxes to fund it and
buy out the development rights at free market rates.

And no I'm not Sharon Lynn or one of her staff.
11:09 am est 

Re: An Inevitable Truth

With all of this TALK of the town being in jeopardy! We must have our
own glen beck writing on this blog. The sky is falling!
11:27 pm est 

No, No. No
 
Keep them where they are. A few leaking pipes and a cell area that is not
perfect. that's ok for this town. How many alleged prisoners are being held in
these cells? How many most of the year?

Here we go again. sharon, can't you keep the projects small and keep tax payers
from paying more and paying exorbitant taxes? I sadly believe you are out of
touch with the economic reality of many of the people in town. Not perhaps Ann
MaQuire who runs this town and runs your office but for those who haven't made
money from boston BRA funds, these projects tax us in more ways than one.
11:25 pm est 

Renovate and Fix the Present Police Station

we do not need a new $5 million plus police station. this town is addicted to
new projects and high-expense contruction. this is ridiculous. How many of us
are really here in the winter? what in the world do we need a new police station
for? We don't need the number of police we already have. what do they really do?

We are in truth a small, if not a tiny, town. Keep things in perspective. You
have a place and that is good enough. Sorry, but we don't need a new big, high
rise to fit high expectations. We need to be more realistic. Or the police
should be.
11:22 pm est 

Re: An Inevitable Truth

To:  "How is the town's future in jeopardy?  It may not be the vision of what
you want it to be, but in jeopardy?  That's an over reaction."


In response to 'petite 3 little miles'

I would agree to some of your points.

Ptown has compromised itself, water source is crap, yet we keep 'forcing' more
units into crevices that shouldn't be compromised, which in turn leads to more
water consumption. People (tourists and new homeowners) keep coming in and
feeling the necessity of being 'over-privileged' .... to what end?
I'm not an english scholar.... so please don't rate me on grammar or punctuation
but, I see the overcrowding, the lack of water conservation (no efforts to
utilize or promote rain catch systems) and the small issue but, major impact ..
of coffee shops using the benign plastic coffee lid plugs. (i see them
continually littering the streets)
In a perfect world ... I would like to see Ptown as a sustainable community that
would eventually open itself to teach other communities and parts of the world,
to do the same...........be environmentally CONSCIOUS.
11:21 pm est 

Re: An Inevitable Truth

"Really?  How long will your ears be wet behind them as far as real
issues facing this town go?"


The sky is falling, the sky is falling.  Oh no Chicken Little, what will we do?
11:18 pm est 

Re: An Inevitable Truth

As far as this new project goes, all sales and real estate
transactions are a matter of public record at the Registy of Deeds in Barnstable
website.  (www.barnstabledeeds.org)  Search out the address to find the
particulars. Then, as an aside, if you care, search out the favorite East End
project that is a side link on this blog.  It's all about connecting the dots
and constants.  Enough said.  There is money to be made.  The devil may care
about the environment.  And he doesn't.
11:12 pm est 

Sunday, December 11, 2011

Re: An Inevitable Truth

To:  "How is the town's future in jeopardy?  It may not be the vision of what you
want it to be, but in jeopardy?  That's an over reaction."



Really?  How long will your ears be wet behind them as far as real issues facing
this town go?

Water, septic, sewerage, the elderly, affordable housing, unemployment, illegal
housing and illegal work force, disability, section 8, homelessness,
environmental damage beyond repair, exhorbitant infrastructure cost, highest
taxes, community services cost, drug abuse, substance abuse peripherals, storm
readiness resources, fire and police costs, overdevelopment and the costs to the
town of the same, blah, blah, blah.

And all in a petite little 3 square mile area.

No, sorry, like you, I support cheap, painted lattice, side-show worthy
conglomerations of modular housing "villages"  (PLEASE) presented as 2 but sold
as 4 stuck together by sticks prettied up with some cheap annuals (you know, for
that all important summer crowd that keeps us alive).  Over reaction.  I don't
think so.  Cheap "villages" DO NOT bill all that septic waste drain to?  I don't
see an answer.  Where will the water to supply all these jammed together units
we don't need come from.  And whereelong here.  Period.  Again, where will the
water come from and where will it all go from this little spit of land?  Well?  
And no, the answer is not a well.  It is the obvious answer.  THE HARBOR.
7:52 pm est 

Re: Eat the Poor

To the writer of the above titled blog.  Unless you were one of the 2 writers to
The Historic & Zoning Boards opposing the plans for 170 Bradford St. out of many
more in favor, you have no reason to complain about the ruined neighborhood.
6:56 pm est 

Re: An Inevitable Truth

"......This town's future, if we stay the current course, is in
jeopardy......."


How is the town's future in jeopardy?  It may not be the vision of what you want
it to be, but in jeopardy?  That's an over reaction.
6:54 pm est 

Need Police For Low Income District

Soon we will have a low income district filled with people from Hyannis. Anyone
who has read the Cape Cod times for the last few years--or who has been on a
jury--knows what is going on in Hyannis.

The homeless and the other people eligible for 40-B housing will be lined up on
Shankpainter Rd waiting to move in. That will truly be a "Black Friday" when
that day comes next year.

We will need a police sub station there to monitor the drug use etc. that may
surely come to that neighborhood.

6:50 pm est 

New Police Headquarters

We do need a new Police Headquarters. We pay over many millions of dollars *EACH
YEAR* for a school with a handful of students. Close the schools and what we pay
for one year towards the schools will pay for the police station.

That is why I voted to renovate Town Hall. We pay millions every single year
when we need to put money into the rest of the town. IF the taxpayers can afford
the school, they can afford the library, the town hall and the new police
station and the transportation center.
6:48 pm est 

Affordable Housing Needed

This is why we need affordable housing. We just lost 6 more year round
rentals. Buyer is a luxury condo developer.

Bk-Pg:25908-326                Recorded: 12-09-2011 @ 2:02:46pm  Inst #: 62590 
Chg: N  Vfy: N  Sec: N

Pages in document: 5
Grp: 1
Type: Deed  Doc$: 1,100,000.00
Desc: FRANKLIN ST 642/39

Town: PROVINCETOWN  Addr: 64 FRANKLIN ST




6:46 pm est 

Enough is Enough!

People who say sell, move out or leave are ignorant.  Period.  They
obviously have no real understanding of the issue.  They are more interested in
making their money and the devil may care as to what happens to the real town. 
More Bangs St. messes taking over my neighborhood.  No thanks.  One, or is it
two, or four, is more than enough to send up the red flag that says enough is
enough.
6:45 pm est 

Re: New Police Station

". . . was also forewarned that the town manager and police chief will
only tell you what you need to know in April and come back to you for more like
some of had to do for the library.  . ."


My guess is that either you or your 'source' are not telling the truth.  You
really think they intentionally plan to do this and they are sharing their
strategy with others?  Nope.

We need a new police station.  Do we need the huge complex I suspect we are
going to see revealed in April?  I'm not so sure.
6:40 pm est 

Saturday, December 10, 2011

Re: Polite Observation

I agree completely with polite observation.  Not everyone can sell and
move out, nor should they have to.  This town's future, if we stay the current
course, is in jeopardy.  Some serious thought needs to be put into the land bank
and a building moratorium and fair regulations.  When resources outweigh
development, the answer will be much more difficult.
2:49 pm est 

New Police Station

I just wanted everyone to know that I had a conversation with someone in the
know about the new police station that us tax payers will be asked to approve of
at the April town meeting and, if we think that our taxes are high now, wait
till the police station and renovations to the DPW are done. I was also
forewarned that the town manager and police chief will only tell you what you
need to know in April and come back to you for more like some of had to do for
the library. Us tax payers need to say enough is enough and until the economy
has made a very significant recovery, now is not the time for a new police
station. Let's Unite now before it's too late. Not showing up to vote against it
is not the way to do it, just make sure the vote is done by secret ballot.
Please don't come back here in late April or early May and complain about your
taxes if you don't.
1:58 pm est 

An Inevitable Truth

Yes, the character of the town is being ruined by overdevelopment. 
However, this will not stop.  The town is governed and run by people conected to
the real estate and construction trades.  Real estate is the number one money
making game in this town and development won't stop until every square inch is
developed.
10:52 am est 

Polite Observation

When someone posts here about a concern they have, the most petty
response is to sell and move.  If this town can pay 250K for a garden (that now
is asking for more money), a more positive outcome may be possible. What about
the land bank? How about stopping the venom and being proactive.  I know you
would never talk to people like that face to face. Use the same courtesy behind
the keyboard.

10:50 am est 

Re: Ruined Neighborhood

Perhaps pass a law stating that any future building on empty lots in neighbor
hoods must look like houses in the historic district.

I don't want to see a "Bangs Street" modular monster sprouting up on every empty
lot in town.

I'm forbidden to buy a triple pane vinyl windows to save on heat to replace my
old windows or have my trim covered in maintenance free white aluminum because
I'm in the historic district-but anyone can haul in vinyl modular buildings a
mile from my house.

People can build on lots--just not rape them and then place 4 buildings on it
and call it two buildi
10:49 am est 

Friday, December 9, 2011

Re: "Ruined Neighborhoods"

What a compassionate and intelligent response.  You deserve all the
overdevelopment and rape of the environment in the name of money you obviously
support and benefit from.   Provincetown's character has been defamed and
violated.  So sad in a town that had such potential to rise above the money
hungry overdevelopment/affordable housing game and set itself apart.  Unique,
not any more.  Instead of protecting what's left of it in the face of those
treating it like a cash cow over and over, those calling the shots lay out the
red carpet for them.  And where will all that water come from and all those
sewers empty out into.  Why Truro and the harbor.

Simple, see.
3:30 pm est 

Re: "Ruined Neighborhoods"

If you are afraid of what will happen then offer to buy the land. But no you
can't afford it so you'd rather government take away the owner's property rights
and the family's right to an inheritance to please your vision of your
neighborhood.

Another alternative, sell your property and move away.

Simple see?



2:38 pm est 

Eat the Poor!

All this talk of Bangs Street and no one seems concerned with the
monstosity happening at 170 Bradford Street... so glad that the hedges will
block the view of the new overbuilt construction... oh right, those hedges have
already been cut way down... congrats to all who helped ruin my neighborhood,
you have done a very great job! You must be so proud of your lawyering skills!
Money Rules!!! Yay!!! Eat the poor!
12:43 pm est 

Changing Times

Atlantic Bay Sothebys sold it's office space.So much for covering
their demise.The company will disappear by the end of the year.It's a
shame.Wonder when                           go?
12:41 pm est 

Over Development

There are 350,000,000 Americans. How many are multi-millionaires? How many can
easily buy or build a house in Provincetown?

We need to protect our water supply system. At some point every buildable lot
will be developed and there will be no move development in Provincetown. What
will the town look like then?

We have a drinking water problem. There are no year round jobs in this summer
economy town. Foreign workers are now living here year round and buying fancy
trucks and cars because they have the "meaty" jobs and locals are left out.

12:20 pm est 

Thursday, December 8, 2011

Ruined Neighborhoods

My fear is what will happen to my neighborhood. At the end of the street is a
house with a huge amount of land. My fear is that when the owner dies her
children will sell the property and we will have another huge complex built
there.

Water is at a premium! We are a lens of drinkable water on top of salt water.
All of this development is putting out existence at risk.

I remember when there was a moratorium on building. That has gone by the wayside
because these rich affordable housing developers have insinuated themselves in
this town and are getting rich while putting the security of the homeowners in
jeopardy.

This is the truth. Watch and learn--see the affordable one bedroom apartments on
Shank painter road and see the wealth go into the pockets of developers once
these units are built--they won't be inexpensive and this 40-B housing may very
well become the homes of the druggies and homeless of Hyannis.
9:00 pm est 

Bangs Street Modular Development

"Neighborhood pride?" Are you kidding?  Town boards killed that with
their ridiculous approvals of any prefab modular construction in Provincetown. 
And I don't care how cost effective it is to build or how energy efficient it is
or how it meets state regulations or how beautiful it looks.  It's not
Provincetown.  Sorry.  IT SHOULD NEVER BE PROVINCETOWN.  AND YES I AM SHOUTING. 
It makes me sick to see this happening here.  I would be prouder to own and live
in one of those paint peeling shamble houses than in a box with cookie cutter
landscaping I could buy in any housing unit complex statewide or countrywide. 
If my house arrived by truck, know what?  I don't want it in Provincetown.  How
about a Brockton meets Provincetown party at town hall.  Beauty, apparently, is
skin deep.  Unfortunately, in this town, going green has nothing to do with
preserving the environment.  Destroy a dune and root expose some trees to build
an "energy" efficient condo.  Sweet.  The proof of the pie is in the pudding.
8:58 pm est 

Bangs Street Homes

Bangs St. Is so yesterday.  Why are you rehashing this old story .

No one cares!
8:54 pm est 

Re: Bangs Street Homes

It has to only be a realtor that would say anything positive about the new homes
built on the street?  They look dam good to me.  All the negative comments are
coming from the property owners who do not maintain their own homes.  They
resent any effort to improve the neighborhood.  If that is not the case, then
why don't they buy some paint and spend a few hours landscaping.  I have rented
at the "Bates Motel" and that development is much nicer than the majority of
ramshackle homes on that street.  Have some neighborhood pride!
9:43 am est 

Bangs Street

You would have to look from the "public" way since the private road,
Bangs St. Extension, has been erased right off the map.  Even though the
neighbors at the end of this street have rights to this small private dirt road,
that existed for years and years, it seems to have disappeared.  Where did that
private road go? Hope if anyone is using it for themselves, they are at least
paying some taxes on it.  Now there's something one of the obviously disgruntled
neighbors owning one of those dilapidated firetrap cheap circa 1950's shacks
dragging down the value of new construction, should check on.
9:41 am est 

Lessons From Bangs Street Development

One lesson from the battle, is hold the BoS accountable. Do the foot work at the
Planning, Zoning, ConCom etc, but in the end it's the Board of Selectmen.

If they don't listen,  run against them, even if you don't win, you can get your
point of view out and require the incumbent Selectman to respond.

So write letters, speak at BoS open mike, establish a public record then file
and run for Selectman or Moderator.
9:39 am est 

Re: Bangs Street Modular Homes

"Would the writer of the above statement please inform the fair
readers of this blog, by address which houses (with character) on that part of
Bangs Street go back to the 18th or 19th century."



No one ever said on that street.  The point is that buyers can buy ANYWHERE in
town, where there are many examples of the type homes mentioned.  No one is
limited to Bangs Street, and after those awful prefabs were added, the street
has definitely not become more desirable.
9:38 am est 

Bangs Street Condos

Check your facts people. 3 of the 4 have SOLD this year. And 2 units right next
door have also re-sold.


9:36 am est 

Re: Bangs Street Modular Development

"The builder violated the number one rule in real estate flipping."


That, combined with prefab construction, sums up the meaning this town has for
these people.  The number one rule in real estate flipping wasn't the only thing
violated.  I'd rather live in one of those crappy neighboring structures than a
box born from greed.
9:34 am est 

Wednesday, December 7, 2011

Re: Bangs Street


"Build prefab... where many homes go back to the 18th and 19th century."?????

Would the writer of the above statement please inform the fair readers of this
blog, by address which houses (with character) on that part of Bangs Street go
back to the 18th or 19th century.

When was that cheap motel looking multi-unit across the street from the prefabs
built?  Some people may call that building quaint with charm and character.  I
guess the Bates Motel had a certain charming quaint character too.

"Quaint", "Charm", "Character"; they are all euphemisms used by realtors to
describe run down dumps to pie in the sky dreamers on whom they hope to unload a
load.

Those "prefabs" are the nicest looking houses on that end of the street
(including the landscaping).  Most of the street looks like cheap circa 1950's
construction.  I didn't get close enough to other peoples property to ascertain
as to whether or not all the windows lined up. But from afar, (the public way) I
would venture a guess that many don't line up.  I bet a replacement window
contractor could make a fortune down there if only the home owners on Bangs
Street would spend a little to spruce their places up to look like the new units
on the street.

Clearly the new modular homes on Bangs St are/were diminished in value by the
surrounding rundown homes/condos.  The builder violated the number one rule in
real estate flipping.  Never buy/build the best house in the worst neighborhood. 
By the worst house in the best neighborhood to get the most return on your
rehab/construction investment.

That's too bad for the builder.  You should be reveling in the builder's
misfortune at the lower sale price and time on the market.
6:41 pm est 

Re: Bangs Street Modular Homes

I wish I could afford one of these units, then I would have the opportunity to
spend the winter in Provincetown but alas, for now, I'll have to be satisfied
with Key West and Cancun.
5:38 pm est 

Re: Speaking of Overflowing Sewers

Since the DPW cleaned the water and you think there is sewage
remaining, why not call the State now?

Love,

Sharon's fanboys
2:44 pm est 

CPA Funds

So much money has gone to afforable housing that rich Developers are getting
richer and instituions near and dear to the townspeople are going begging. It
isn't fair to the taxpayers and it isn't fair to these instituions.

I personally know of instances where people from Hyannis have come to town and
have wrecked havoc and spread lies about a neighbor and made threats to beat up
a roommate and who have spread lies about the people from whom they have rented
and who had to be evicted.

They are here for the affordable housing. References lie.

1:20 pm est 

Re: Speaking of Overflowing Sewers

Dearest of Sharon's Fanboys,

Why call DPW,   DPW  was already on the scene? Of course! Silly you!  Robert B
Our dispatched a water vacuuming truck to remove water, but presumably not the
residue.(??)

But calling someone in addition to posting here is the right idea.  Silly me! 
So a few phone calls and I've found the correct office we can call in case of
another sewage episode


Massachusetts Environmental Police
General Phone: (781)740- 1163
Hazardous Waste Phone: (617)727-2200 (24 hour)

With all my kindest wishes for a better Town,

Mr, the emperor has no clothes

1:18 pm est 

Provincetown Public Library

The sky is falling. The sky is falling. The brickwork is crumbling and
wont make it through the winter and the grass won't grow in the spring. May I
please borrow your crystal ball to see if I should stop buying lotto tickets?
1:14 pm est 

Re: Speaking of Overflowing Sewers

If you think there's something smelly outside by the surfside, why
don't you call the DPW instead of posting here. Love, Sharon's fanboys

10:07 am est 

Tuesday, December 6, 2011

Provincetown Public Library

Go look at the new brickwork in front of and aside the library.  It's
already crumbling.  It won't make it through this winter.
10:53 pm est 

Re: Bangs Street Modular Homes

Now, now. tell the truth.  Their value is not diminished by the
neighborhood.  Their value is diminished by them being pre made boxes brought in
on trucks sitting on concrete sitting on sand sitting stuck in a carved out dune
and on the edge of a sandhill being held up by a rusting piece of steel.  In
addition to the halves not lining up, the windows don't line up either.  If you
claim the neighboring houses are the firetraps, do some research into how these
puppies are actually built (void spaces and all).  Current regulations on
modulars don't convince me.  I'll take a neighboring mess of a firetrap any day.   
One built by local carpenters outside on site.
10:12 pm est 

Re: Bangs Street Modular Homes

"The reason that they are not selling is that their value is
diminished due to their dilapidated neighbor's properties.  Any realtor would
find it a challenge to unload these homes."


Sure, sure.  Build thrown-up prefab crammed-together no-personality boxes in a
village where many homes go back to the 18th and 19th century and actually have
style and character.

Then try to over-charge for them.

Then act surprised when buyers prefer authenticity, and blame the neighboring
existing homes, as if they just fell from the sky and weren't there all along.

Nice try.  You must really be the realtor.

And "unload" is a fine choice of wording in this case!
10:09 pm est 

Speaking of Overflowing Sewers

It smells like a big outflow of sewage in the gulch on Bradford at the Surfside.
Lots of icky smelly water.

Sharon's fanboys say what you will, but normal sewer and water construction
doesn't look or smell like this.

1:45 pm est 

Re: Bangs Street Modular Homes

"Those modular homes are much nicer and better built..."

You don't have to be a realtor to see that these homes are nicer than many of
the others in that neighborhood.  The reason that they are not selling is that
their value is diminished due to their dilapidated neighbor's properties.  Any
realtor would find it a challenge to unload these homes.


1:43 pm est 

Re: Nativity Creche at Bas-Relief

Since you are so critical of the town's displays, take up a fundraiser
and buy new ones. The town full of artists should fix what you don't like? Fix
it yourself. Nothing but an armchair critic.

1:39 pm est 

Nativity Creche at Bas-Relief


Could the town possibly put up a more cheesy and disturbing display of Christmas
spirit as is evidenced bythis creche.  In a town that is full of artists, and spends money
like drunken sailors could we not put up something more appealing. 

It would be best if we took down this poor excuse for a Christmas display and put up
nothing instead. How disrepectful indeed.
11:31 am est 

A Town Asleep

Re: "How can one samll town have such high-paying but not too bright
managers and adminstrators? What did we do wrong?"


Those who live in glass houses. . .


11:29 am est 

Sharon Lynn

Of course anyone could fix town hall for 9 million dollars. But how
did it get that way? Sharon had a mess to clean up of bad decisions that were
made in the past that have cost the taxpayers millions of dollars. No one
maintained the buildings. I use the library all the time. When I want a book, I
go there and I get it from CLAM. The building may in time become something else
but at least it won't fall on your head
11:26 am est 

Re: Bangs Street Modular Homes

"Those modular homes are much nicer and better built..."


Go take a close look.  The two halves of the closest one to the street are not
even properly squared up with each other!

Who are you, the selling realtor?
9:40 am est 

Re: Keith Bergman vs Sharon Lynn

You can take Bergman back and not know about the decay in our town
buildings for another 20 years. I wonder what it would cost to rebuild them? I
would guess a tad bit more than 9 million for town hall. You may not like
Sharon, but things are getting fixed in town. They wouldn't have been if someone
didn't walk the naughty path of spending money.  Rather face the wolf cub than
the big bad one down the road. She may not be your favorite person, but she
wasn't hired to be liked by you either.
9:38 am est 

Monday, December 5, 2011

I'd Also Take Bergman Back

He was not the most pleasant person but he surely was more competent than the
present group we have. How can one samll town have such high-paying but not too
bright managers and adminstrators? What did we do wrong?
10:53 pm est 

Re: Sharon Lynn and Reality

Anyone Could Fix Town Hall for 9 Million Dollars

Just raise taxes and spend $9 million. I don't consider this great work and look
at the mess at the Library. Wasn't this another unbelievable $9 million? and
what do we have? a big white building without books and without leadership. It
is a financial mess. And then the sewer system and the monies spent on this
disaster and more and more monies and teaxes to come.

Please, what do you believe Sharon Lynn's legacy has been? It's a mess.

in short and in truth, she is incompetent. she is over her head here
10:51 pm est 

Sharon Lynn and Reality

Let's take a good look at what Sharon inherited and what has been done
since she took over...she inherited a mess...Town Hall falling down, pier
falling down, library falling down, a sewer system that was backing up, any and
all of town properties needing repairs...roads in horrible shape...a chief of
police that ran this town like Texas... a pier harbormaster that was out of
control with sinking boats, sinking harbormaster's boats,money wasted on barges
for pile driving rotting on Town Lands...and you say she can't handle it? All
fixed or being fixed. The measure of her success is the legacy that she will
leave behind.  I wish I could do as much.  Get off her case and watch for real
problems in town.  You don't need to create then...there are plenty

12:25 pm est 

Re: Bangs Street Modular Home Development

"You ruined a quaint little street."  Beuty is in the eye of the beholder. 
Those modular homes are much nicer and better built than many of the fire traps
on that "quaint" street.


10:02 am est 

David Gardner vs Sharon Lynn - Continued

Sharon Lynn is a well meaning, highly motivated town employee and civic leader.
When she came here she made significant progress and moved Town forward. But now
it's the harder tasks and the ones she is ill-prepared to tackle.

While a good administrator and manager of projects she is a poor manager of
people. What's more her bosses- 5 Selectmen - are spectacularly weak and
woefully unprepared for the job at hand. Sharon Lynn is in over her head, and
has no one to turn to help her get out the difficult spot she finds herself in.

As the Town Manager, Lynn faces long lingering (and many inherited) problems. 
Unfortunately she is unable to develop a coherent plan to fix these problems so
in turn she will become less transparent, more arbitrary and frequently
contradictory of herself and of her direct reports as she flails about.


9:59 am est 

David Gardner vs Sharon Lynn

I'd take David Gardner as town
manager also. He at least can think well, analyze and come up with solutions and
has proven it time and time again.

I will disagree that Sharon has done nothing.  She has done more than Keith has
ever done, maybe she has no personality, but we are not paying someone to have a
personality, just to get the job done and she has taken us off the watch list
from the state.  She did the town hall over and lots of other projects.   No one
is perfect, and David might be better, but Sharon is town manager and I support
her, even though I think David can do as good if not a better job.
9:57 am est 

Sunday, December 4, 2011

Re: Town Manager

What? Lawless or bureacratic? that is totally off the mark

Sharon Lynn is just dull. Bureacractic--not really. she is just not up for the
position. she was fine in West goshen but here she fails us. I demand more than
she can ever give this town. We deserve better. I'd take David Gardner as town
manager. He at least can think well, analyze and come up with solutions.
10:39 pm est 

Re: Bangs Street Modular Home Development

Now, now, let's not think you are bitter blogger.  The fact is they
did sit and rot for over a year plus.  And in that time, who knows the damage
done to the property uphill that already had it's foundation and patio cracked
by the "not rising above the crest of the dune" construction AS PROPOSED TO TOWN
BOARDS.   Check out the rusting retaining wall.  The skeleton of a dune. 
Pathetic and approved by town boards.  Congrats.  You ruined a quaint little
street.
10:35 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Police on Public Pier

Transfer of police, traffic and public safety from Harbor Master to
Chief of Police:

From what I can find. The transfer of expenses (1 FTE) from the Pier Corporation
to the Town ledger was never discussed in a public meeting. I've checked FinCom,
Special Town Meeting & Board of Selectmen. (If I have missed something let us
know, minutes and agendas are a bit cryptic sometimes).

In so far as the Town of Provincetown is absorbing the expenses which becomes a
long term liability, I am unclear how it can happen without a Town Meeting vote?
And how such a significant change can happen without a public discussion of the
merits?


Open Meeting Law Guide

http://www.mass.gov/ago/docs/government/oml-guide-032411.pdf


Open Meeting Law Complaint Form

http://www.mass.gov/ago/docs/government/ago-open-meeting-law-complaint-form.pdf
5:53 pm est 

Bangs Street Modular Home Development

Wow someone actually bought one of the condos on Bangs St - 439,000...
alot less than the original price. Wish they had just sat there and rotted.
4:26 pm est 

New Hires

No, your job is not safe for years and years.  The town
should only employee where there is need.  If needs change positions change and
are eliminated and/or changed.  The only ones who wouldn't want this are town
employees.

Town employees, when hired, should not expect they have a job for life.  That's
how it worked in Greece and we know how well it worked for them.
10:31 am est 

Re: Janitor's Job

". . .Lets dissect what is being done at the Police Dept.  A POSISTION
of 35 years is being canceled to fund a one year trial posistion on the
pier??????????????"




Should we keep town employee positions just because it's always been there?  I
think most financially thinking residents would say that's not a good idea.  Cut
out the waste - that's what is being done here.  Position transferred to another
dept where there is need.

Police department janitor elimination - Pier Corp issue.  THEY HAVE NOTHING TO
DO WITH EACH OTHER (yep, i'm shouting, maybe someone will hear it)  The janitor
position is being moved over to DPW.
10:29 am est 

Re: Full Time Cops on the Pier

Part of Yesterdays comments re policing on MacMillan Pier was not complete on
this blog. It skipped submission,so here's the last paragraph.  There appears
now to be some management problem, not a need to add more staff on pier or for
Police Dept. There's more staff on Pier now than ever and they have a permanent
secretary in the office that never existed before and there's less to do now
without the uses that existed before,especially in the summer.  They have a
new/larger pier and far fewer fishing vessels and other businesses that existed
there.  Pier Corp. Management needs to reassess their job that they inherited by
Town Meeting vote and not transfer their duties back to the Town taxpayers.  ARE
they looking to bail out? Be advised the Harbormaster has jurisdiction in the
harbor,waterfront,ponds,as deputy Shellfish Warden,operations and policing on
the pier and the West End launching ramp. In some instances the harbormaster has
more authority than the Police Chief.  To have Police do Harbormasters patrols is
transferring his/her duties to Police Dept. for which they have no jurisdiction under
the law.  Insistance in better management here is whats needed,not rearranging
departments and hiring more personnel in either dept. that will require more burden
to the taxpayers,no matter what they say!
9:53 am est 

Town Manager

If the choice is between lawless and bureaucratic I'll take Sharon every day.
9:46 am est 

Re: Library


Re: "The spy camera's not only see all who enter but are also a
deterrence to smiles and laughter. It is as quiet in there
like a funeral parlor."


OK, I haven't been following the entire thread about the library, but based on
the few posts I have read, it sounds like some people are really trying to
create issues where they don't exist. Lots of public places have security
cameras, it's 2011. It's not that uncommon. To continuously refer to them as
"spy cameras" is just childish and
unnecessarily provocative.

And who ever heard of a library that ISN'T quiet?! If you want smiles and
laughter, go hang out in a coffee shop.
9:45 am est 

Re: Library

".  .  .It is as quiet in there like a funeral parlor.  Something is
wrong, very wrong, no longer the Welcoming warm spot in our long .  .  ."


I thought a library was suppose to be quiet, am I missing something?  Seems like
the library use to be a social gathering place similar to a coffee shop.  As a
taxpayer I'd rather not be paying millions to create a place for people to
socialize.  Run it as a library (yes, that means quiet) or get rid of it.


9:43 am est 

Re: Janitors Job

Lets dissect what is being done at the Police Dept.  A POSISTION of 35
years is being canceled to fund a one year trial posistion on the
pier??????????????
  Thus having done this states, loud and clear. BE ADVISED NEW HIREES THAT YEARS
DOWN THE ROAD YOUR JOB IS NOT SAFE.?????? this puts out a negative MESSAGE
   Next is that the fomer custodian and others from the dpw will be cleaning a
building that houses sensitive material and where police officer regularly
discuss police business that is condidential. ?????????
   Next  COMING SOON, A LOCAL CLEANING SERVICE WITH CONNECTIONS WILL BE CLEANING
THIS BUILDING. Remeber u read it it here ist.
9:40 am est 

Re: Keith Bergman Please Come Back

Keith Bergman is NOT the answer!
12:26 am est 

Keith Bergman Please Come Back

At least you had a presence here. You also had a sharp mind. wish you were back
here. I sense a vacuum rather than a presence with our present manager.
11:51 pm est 

A Library is More than Landscaping

It requires books, perdiodicals, research texts. a library needs life and it is
internal, not simply or mostly external. seems this director has missed this
point. Too bad the best candidate did not accept the position and so they took
her. Second or third best does not make a first rate director. They should have
waited until they found the most qualified library director, not a substitue for
one.
11:50 pm est 

Town Positions:

It is so nice to see that the Chief of Police in Truro is actively a patrol
chief.  He covers shifts and actually handles calls.  Unlike Provincetown!
11:18 pm est 

Re: Library

My problem with the Library is that the inside is rotting.
All that over priced Landscaping is no excuse for the the dingy empty space
inside. There are No New books! Nothing has been purchased in a year. Half the
lightbulbs are out and so is the spirit. The spy camera's not only see all who
enter but are also a deterrence to smiles and laughter. It is as quiet in there
like a funeral parlor.
Something is wrong, very wrong, no longer the Welcoming warm spot in our long
winters.
That director has got to go...imagine, not buying books but buying spy camera's.
Pretty sleazy if you ask me.
11:17 pm est 

Saturday, December 3, 2011

Re: A Town Asleep

Police Pier Patrol

When will it sink in?  "Connections" are EVERYTHING in this town. 
When it comes, if it does, to town vote, vote it down.  Worse than a sewing
circle.  Do the math and figure the connections.  Enough said.
8:12 pm est 

Re: Janitors Job

". . .the other things he does like being responsible for lost and
stolen bikes, fingerprinting and a sleuth of other things as well including
helping getting the police cruisers inspected.So whomever told that blogger
that, well see who is going to do all that. Those
officers don't do anything
unless there are dollar signs behind it.  .  ."


Talk about knifing in the back.  What's the expression?  Pot calling the kettle
black!
7:18 pm est 

Re: Janitors Job

". . Instead of putting more knives in his back, why don't
you ask him like I do. . ."


I've never tried to ' stab him in the back', just having a discussion.  It is
common knowledge at the Police station that job has not been full time for a
long time.  That's not the fault of the person in the position it's the fault of
management.  And as a taxpayer I'm glad to see town management stepping up and
saying we can make better use of this staff person.  It's about time.
5:58 pm est 

Re: Janitors Job

It's funny how someone posts here that the janitors job at the PD has not been
full time just ask them or something to that affect. Why don't you ask him about
the other things he does like being responsible for lost and stolen bikes,
fingerprinting and a sleuth of other things as well including helping getting
the police cruisers inspected.So whomever told that blogger that, well see who
is going to do all that. Those officers don't do anything unless there are
dollar signs behind it. Instead of putting more knives in his back, why don't
you ask him like I do.
4:36 pm est 

Missing Sharon?????????

Where would she go for the Holiday's her
mother is in Seashore Point, her partner is her.........BOT of the
Library......so she must be around, look for the fancy new sports car of her's
flaunting the new raise!
3:00 pm est 

Re: Pier Patrol

". . . They already sacrificed the janitors job at the PD to help fund
that position. What will be next. . ."



The janitors job at the PD is not being sacrificed to fund a Pier position.  The
job is being transferred out of the PD because they don't need a full time
janitor.  Would like to say we are saving $ by reducing staff, but that's not
the case.   Ask most folks at the PD if the janitor position is a full time job
and they'll tell you it han't been a full time position for years.

I'm not commenting on the PIER Corp staffing because I don't know enough about
it.  But, Pier Corp staff and janitor at PD are unrelated.
2:58 pm est 

Pier Patrol

One would think that before police officers are positioned down there that the
following two ideas would be attempted first: (1) Over lap the shifts, so if one
harbormaster is working the 8-4 shift, the other would work 10-6 and, (2) with
the first idea in mind, increase the police patrols on the pier.

After the first two are done and if for some unfortunate reasons that does not
work, then put a serious consideration towards a police officer down there.

All of you know, if a police officer is at one end of the pier and an incident
happenes at the other end that poor officer is going to wish he was chartering a
boat out by the point. I urge everyone to not vote on this if it is presented to
the voters. They already sacrificed the janitors job at the PD to help fund that
position. What will be next.
12:53 pm est 

Fulltime Cops on the Pier!

Help,insanity is creeping in! Shame on
Public Officials and Fin Com if they approve permanent police officers on
MacMillan Pier and/or moving funding around or creating more to do it by the
Pier Corp.The Harbormaster and staff are compelled,via Mass. General Laws to
take the Brown Book Test which gives them auhority to do their own policing on
the Pier w/o depending on Police Dept. personnel. No need to increase police
dept.staff to permanently place them on the pier pier staff always did that job
and that's when salaries were less than half of what they get now.  It was when
they had 58 local fishing vessels as opposed to the 10 they have now,there was
off loading transient fishing vessels from other ports landing here,more Whale
Watch boats,Charter boats,private boats,Boston/Plymouth excursion boats,kids
diving,fuel trucks,welding trucks,fish trailers up and down all day,Lobstermen &
pots,fish buildings on the pier and fishbuyers and si!
multaneously pedestrians,cars,adults/kids fishing on both sides of pier,mooring
assignments, a restaurant on the pier,all on the old and smaller pier.  Their
was 2 permanent men (Harbormaster and asst.) and 2 parttime in summer.  There
was 24/7 coverage.  Their was no thefts no parking problems,fees were collected
with ubpaid ones taken to court by the Harbormaster who reportedly never lost a
case.  There was no stegway or golf cart for patrol. Staff of one on each shift
walked the pier,the ramps,the beach if need be,east and west. No uptown for
lunch or coffee,no bathromm,they had a chemical toilet in the office.no
computers. M.O. was long hand or typed and  copied. Staff replaced light bulbs
on pier and DPW assisted with other maintenance on the pier as a part of Town
owned property.  Their was no Harbormaster's boat. One was borrowed in
emergencies or patrol. The Center for Coastal Studies gave the Harbormaster a
surplus boat that he had refurbished by the students at the Cape Cod Tech School
with Selecmen's sanction, but the Bd.of Selectmen at the time in their hindsight and micromanagement style,refused to allow purchase of a motor. 
Consequently the boat was allowed to rot over years in the yard of the North Truro
Pumping Station.  There appears now to be some
9:43 am est 

Provincetown Air Port

"I can't name any other airport that doesn't charge a penny for
parking."


I've flown in and out of town for years (2nd home owner).  Have never parked at
the airport.  Don't really need a car in town, so don't have one.

Don't think I've ever seen the lot full, which tells you something.  Would
probably hurt the airport workers the most, and wouldn't raise much $.


9:28 am est 

Re: Library Marketing

Provincetown needs to update its core collections not a marketing program. The
reason the library wants a marketing program is that no one checks out books.
And the reason for that is the book collection is very limited and antiquated.
(We all know the library has books what exactly are they going to promote to
us?)

I agree the library has a decent periodical collection and an unusually large
multi-media lending program.  However, books (fiction and non-fiction) are not
so good.

Wishing for a library that cared more about books than buildings.
9:26 am est 

Re: Cape Air

This business is community oriented, stable, year round, thinks outside the box,
friendly, giving to all community based business and non-profits, don't even
attempt to denigrate this business on this blog!!
5:45 am est 

N.Y. - P'town, Woo-Hoo!

Good news. That said, this suggests a source of additional revenue. It's high
time for CapeAir to get in step with other profitable businesses to defray the
financial challenges facing our town.

My understanding is that until now, any mention of the idea was off the table
because the Boston-P'town route was break-even at best. If true, isn't it a
stretch for the airline to consider a route to New York?

CapeAir is vital, but I don't believe in poor-mouthing. I feel that the concept
of flying to and from P'town is a relic of a bygone day. I can't name any other
airport that doesn't charge a penny for parking. Surely that has its charms for
tourists, but can we afford them? Even the bus station at Hyannis charges $8 a
day!

-- La Belle Concorde
11:03 pm est 

Friday, December 2, 2011

Re: Conversation with the PD Janitor

"it is not them who is being takened against
his better wishes out of a building he has takened care
"

Miss Crobopple,
Where are you when we need you?

Question:  If established and well-liked bookstores are closing, assuming it's
based on technology (kindle, amazon, Ipad, etc.) why do we need a multi million
dollar library?  Wouldn't a cyber cafe offering coffee and treats produce more
revenue for a town in awesome shape already?  Just askin.

10:16 pm est 

Conversation with the PD Janitor

I have known the janitor at the PD for several years and did have a conversation
with him today about the rumors. He confided in me about things I promised not
to divulge but he wants it known he is lucky enough to have had a good
relationship with those he will be working with in the near future and hopes it
will continue.

He knows there will be people who will understand and there will
be some who will not simply because it is not them who is being takened against
his better wishes out of a building he has takened care of for 25 years. He
wishes he could really express his feelings openly but he's not allowed or he
will be disciplined if he does.

He says he just wants to be left alone.
3:20 pm est 

Provincetown Public Library

Can anyone answer the question as to why the library director needs to hire two
part-time people(30 hours a week) to do Marketing and Promotion in one case and
everything else in the other. Look at the help wanted ad in this week's Banner.
What exactly is the director doing other than watching her spy cameras?We are
talking about $60,000 dollars of our tax money going for these two positions. I
am a long time supporter of the library but this woman is rapidly causing me to
change. She needs to go!
2:55 pm est 

Re: "What? Attend a June 8th Ad Hoc Zoning By-Law Meeting?"

To the blogger of the above blog.  What are you responding to?

And, Okay, got it, a name was named.  Now, what are the actual damages
monetarily and actual damages to character?

Not all opinions or ideas or emotions or expressions of opinions or ideas or
emotions are based in fact.  In fact, more often than not, truth and fact play
little roles on blogs such as this.
2:52 pm est 

Re: Police on the Pier

If it's true that the Police Department's janitor position is being
eliminated, after the individual being in that position hot more than 20 years,
hopefully, with his seniority, he will bump someone with less seniority.

It's always the ones that are at the bottom, who are the most vulnerable. 
They're usually not politically or financially "connected" enough to have
advocates frim among the Selectmen, or The Town Hall administration.  And these
are usually positions held by residents who have lived here for many, many
years, if not all their lives.  It seems that these days, paved streets,
buildings and parking supersede our community. Very sad. I wish things could be
more balanced.  Merry Christmas.
2:50 pm est 

Police on the Pier

What the town needs to do, is get rid of Rex as Harbormaster and Hire a for real
Harbormaster, who will enforce the harbor regulations and pier regulations.  In
the past, Harbormasters had police training and full police powers.  Rex had
this training but never kept up with the training that went with these powers
and never chose to exercise the powers that he had.  The police chief never took
responsibility for Rex who should have been reporting to the chief because of
his police powers, as was done in the past with harbormasters reporting directly
the former chief's of police.  Chief Jaran now wants to add a full time police
officer and four summer officers to keep order down on the pier.  Get real, wake
up.
2:49 pm est 

Re: Pier Police

Re: "I heard today that the Town Manager and the Chief of Police are
going to eliminate the Janitors job at the Police Station effective July 1st to
fund the Police Officers job down the Pier. It's sad, that guy has been there
for 25 years."


Obviously we have difference sources.  What I heard was that the position of
police station janitor wasn't needed.  The guy was offered another custodial
position within the town.  It's not being done to fund the Pier, it's being done
to make the town more efficient and save taxpayer money.  Move people around
where needed, makes sense to me.


2:43 pm est 

Thursday, December 1, 2011

Police Officers for the Pier

A request to expand the police force at great expense to this community seems
very unwise to say the least. This will aggravate the already existing "police
state" atmosphere which has existed here in the past few years. It will send the
wrong message to vacationers. Many visitors and  locals have already expressed
concerns about the excessive police presence and how this negatively impacts
their experience of Provincetown when compared to that of other similar resort
areas.
Who pays for all the salaries,  benefits, retirement plans? Shouldn't the
taxpayers have a direct say in this? Be able to limit the out of control
expenditures? How many police cruisers, SUV, motorcyles, segways, detectives
etc..  do you really need to efficiently police our town? Do we really need to
have 2-3 officers stand together in groups a few 100 yards apart on Commercial
St, and at the same time have one police vehicle after another go down the same
street at a few minutes interval? Our census data shows that we are a shrinking
and ageing population. We must streamline our existing police force.

Look at what is happening around the country and the world.  We are not so
special as to be immune from the same trends. This town should be prepared for
more difficult times ahead. No more squandering of public funds.  Use OUR
taxpayers' money more intelligently.  Fiscal restraint is sorely needed in this
town.
9:38 pm est 

Pier Police

I heard today that the Town Manager and the Chief of Police are going to
eliminate the Janitors job at the Police Station effective July 1st to fund the
Police Officers job down the Pier. It's sad, that guy has been there for 25
years.
9:36 pm est 

Re: Rumored Closings

"Just heard the the Now Voyager book shop will close its doors this
Christmas for good."


Sad to hear Now Voyager is closing.  Great book store, but I realize it's Amazon
and Kindle now.  Mark, I loved coming into your store and holding the books
before I bought them.  guess I'm old school.
9:35 pm est 

Cape Air - NY

Michele, would be happy to give feedback, but first can you tell everyone which
NY airport: LGA, JFK, or HPN?

In any case, sounds very good.
9:33 pm est 

Re: Cape Air Launch

It is great news to hear that Cape Air will be running flights between
NYC and Provincetown (however I don't think they will be coming from Manhattan
as there are no runways there!).
9:30 pm est 

Cape Air New Launch!

Cape Air to Launch Manhattan to Provincetown Air Service

 

In time for next summer Cape Air is planning NYC to P'town service, but we would love your input...

 

We will be some what limited at first so what makes sense?

Thursday OR Friday out of NYC with a

Sunday or early Monday out of Provincetown?

 

What are preferable dates and times?

 

We would love and appreciate your input at Michelle.Haynes@capeair.com

2:50 pm est 

Re: Rumored Closings?

There are more businesses than Now Voyager and Chaddington's closing. 
Wait till spring.  Unfortunately the techology has taken over the need to buy
books. Borders also closed and a small business like Now Voyager are just bound
to close too.  Provincetown retailers will be effected more and more.  Sad
stories.
2:23 pm est 

Re: Police Officer For the Pier

I cannot find a town or city that has the ratio of police officers to
population that Provincetown has.  If a full time officer is needed for the
pier, why wouldn't we just assign one from the current force?
2:21 pm est 

Police Officer For the Pier

The hiring of the officer is a way to move $55,000 from the Pier Corporation to
the Town books. Look for 2 half time Assistant Harbor Masters not be replaced
next year.

The unfortunate reality is the Pier Corporation is quickly moving to toward
insolvency, while the the central town government has a fair amount of cushion
on it's books next year.

A direct bailout of the Pier would be an embarrassment for Sharon Lynn's
financial competency claims.

This behind the scenes bailout has just begun so look for more subtle transfers
of expenses from the Pier Corporation to the Town.
1:13 pm est 

Pier Cops - Wake up Provincetown!

The problem is Rex McKinsey not being up to the job. Now it's proposed to
have 2 people doing the job he was hired to do in the first place. Is Rex
getting a reduction in pay? Doubt it. Two people managing a facility that was
built for an industry that's almost obsolete. Jaran should be the Pier Manager
with underlings to do Harbormaster duties. One boss is enough.

1:11 pm est 

Moving On?

Not only Now Voyager but the Little Store and Chaddington's are
closing for good. Still,our police dept. continues to expand in so many ways. I
think the chief is building a resume so he can move on to a bigger more urban
force. I'll give him two years before he resigns and takes another position.
10:04 am est 

Town Pier Cop

I thought the pier corp was supposed to take care of the pier and make money so
the town would not have to continue to support the pier financially.  Posting
this job as a town job, with town backup support from the regular town officers,
is costing the taxpayers money again.  Although the posting is indicating a
starting pay of under $60,000, call outs, overtime and supporting officers will
be a huge added expense to the town.  Looks like a kingdom is being built.

9:13 am est 

Re: Proposal to Hire Officer For MacMillan Pier

Seems like a police officer full time on the pier is not needed.  Just
like the new Harley motorcycle and Segway were not needed.  These expenses seem
unjustified.

9:11 am est 

Rumored Closing

Just heard the the Now Voyager book shop will close its doors this
Christmas for good. Another year round business lost and the libraries accross
the country are trying to find a new way of being useful as technology makes
them obsolete.
9:06 am est 

Re: A Town Asleep

It's only slander if it isn't true.
9:02 am est 

Re: Where Are the Police?

What do you mean you haven't seen Jaran on the streets.  I have; he
was walking along Charo's convertible in the Carnival Parade.
9:01 am est 


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