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Sunday, October 31, 2010

Biggest Bang For Our Buck?

Gotta love our chief of police... even though he can barely reach the roof, he's
bigger than life when it comes to spending our money....

Provincetown now has as many supervisors as it has patrol officers.

Case in point.... traveling along Bradford Street today, I barely squeaked by
the larger than life officer monitoring traffic. Lt. Sgt. Golden directing
traffic.

Is this the best use of our resources?

Gotta love our chief. Spending the town's money wisely....

Note to Fin Com: Is this how they does things in Boston?
8:51 pm edt 

I Am Voting Yes to Question 2: I want to Eliminate 40B

Enough is enough. I want local control and not developers given so-called
comprehensive permitting so that they do not have to go to each board and follow
all town rules. I want small scale affordable housing and not state-funded and
federally-funded (nor CPA funded) affordable housing.

My vote is YES to Question 2. May the old way of constructing and funding and
permitting for affordable housing finally end.

Yes to 2.
8:48 pm edt 

Halloween Should be Much More Than Once a Year

When pondering town affairs, can't think of more scary things than an unregulated assessor and
developers, town management, building and conservation.  Yikes, enough to turn a
bad witch worse.  Sugar overload is underrated. 
7:57 pm edt 

Smell the Roses

Take a night off from your bitching and complaining! Go out and have
some fun... Happy Halloween.

Ed E. Munster
7:54 pm edt 

170 Bradford Street Sale

Yesterday I heard from a local brooker that 170 Bradford Street went into sales
agreement for $275K (10 times the purchase price) and that the buyer is well
connected and has received assurances from HDC that she cam demolish the house
and rebuild on the same footprint.  Does anyone know anything more about this?
This is great news for the neighborhood and I guess all of this uproar on this
blog resulted in some good after all.
7:53 pm edt 

Theme Park Provincetown?

Is tourism saving the town or ruining it?  A couple of weeks ago it
appeared that if you weren't a cross dresser, a bear or both there wasn't much
activity.  Seems we are fast becoming a host to conventions rather than a true
tourist destination.  The two are not the same and I predict that the former
will harm the latter.
7:51 pm edt 

170 Bradford Street

Actually, the scaffolding at 170 Bradford has been there on the house
since the mid 1970s... I remember them putting it up. That side of the house has
been open to the weather for almost 40 years.

Yup, those old time townies sure did love this town to death! Deferred
maintenance was the way to take care of buildings here, and apparently a
complete lack of pride in the town they now say has been "ruined" by all the new
blood in town! The only reason this town will still be standing in 100 years is
the new money being put into infastructure.
7:48 pm edt 

170 Bradford Street --- Greedy Owners

Get a life about this property.  Just maybe the owners need a tax write off? 
They can do what they want as long as it isn't a health hazzard to the general
public.  Yes, it is an eye soar, but so are other properties in town.   Are we
suppose to tell the Ranch on commercial street to get a paint job?  We all know
it needs one.   How about the property right next to town hall, the yellow
little house.  Ever seen the inside of that house?  No one should live inside,
but they do and the town doesn't do anything about that.  
7:46 pm edt 

Vote Yes to Repeal 40-B Housing
 
Stop the overbuilding of our town. We have no water, no jobs and yet we give
$3,000,000 to developers to create dense housing. Stop the madness.
7:44 pm edt 

Re: Derelict Houses

The way to solve most of the complaints about historic structures is to
introduce a zoning by law that prevents destruction by neglect. This is a common
zoning rule in many communities. I'm sure an enterprising citizen could find the
language for such a by law and introduce it from the floor of town meeting or
ask that the ad hoc zoning committee start working on it, it would essentially
say that if an owner was neglecting a structure and it was becoming a blight on
the community the town could force them to repair it or seize the property.

7:42 pm edt 

170 Bradford Street

With all the hype surrounding the property and the lack of anyone doing
anything, has anyone looked to see who owns it? Yes, I know, look at the
assessors card but he's not married to her.                                          
                                                                      
7:38 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health

At least Mr. Jensen will return for the public
hearing for septic inspections.

When is the meeting for the inspections? Is this the same topic they were
discussing a while ago regarding inspections for everyone in town and not just
the red dot delays? Where is it posted and what is the date/time?
7:35 pm edt 

Chapter 40B-Affordable Housing Law

Vote Yes to Repeal 40-Housing
Developers of affordable housing? Yeah, They build acres of homes and a few are
set aside for the deserving poor. The rest the build thumbing thier noses at
Zoning regulations and become multi millionaires.

Look at the Affordable Housing industry in this town--a staff of many workers
and vast land holdings. And $3,000,000 0f taxpayer money! Stop the madness. End
40-B wich enriches developers and densly over builds while we have a water
crisis. 
7:33 pm edt 

Health Department and Septic Systems

I just read the article about the health department trying to require
mandatory inspections of septic systems. 

Analysis:  1400 systems to be inspected once every 5 years (by whom?) = 280
systems per year.

They only plan to inspect from 15 June to 15 Sept each year (nice summer jobs?)
which is 13 weeks.

280 inspections in 13 weeks is 21 inspections per week, or 4 per day, every day. 
Can't be done.

Town will need to buy a truck and a backhoe, so in addition to the inspector(s),
you need a truck driver/equipment operator.  What do these people do for the
other 39 weeks of the year when they're not inspecting? PS, the only person
qualified to inspect a septic system is a licensed civil engineer - they're not
cheap!  How many licensed civil engineers are there in Provincetown - where they
can't even find a qualified building inspector?

The town has no right to trespass on private property to inspect private
systems.  If someone refuses to allow an inspection, then what?

They say that any system where the bottom of the pit is within 4 feet of the
water table will automatically fail.  The only way to establish what the water
table is is to dig down to it.  Who's going to pay to restore people's yards
after they have done this?

What if someone fails an inspection and takes it to court?  Now the town will
have to pay a lawyer......

What if your idot neighbor's system fails inspection (you know it will).  Will
all of you on the street have to pay for the sewer line and pumping station to
be installed on your road?
7:29 pm edt 

170 Bradford Street

I'd be careful what you wish for because the owners could decide to paint the
house bright green or flourescent pink since the HDC does not control color and
plant bamboo that grows like wild fire.  Don't believe the town has a bylaw to
tell people what they can grow in their yards or how tall except for illegal
substances. Take a look at the house on Alden Street where all the Taxi's are -
look at the junk in that yard.  Nothing has and probably could be done about it
since people complained and it's still there.

Isn't there a house somewhere in the West End in a private development that
looks like something out of Hansel and Gretel.  Be careful what you wish for!
7:23 pm edt 

Saturday, October 30, 2010

Historic Board & 170 Bradford Street

Since Historic is so high and mighty, I propose that they should be forced to
buy it... Oh, I guess none of them live in the east end and are here in the off
season to have to put up with this disaster-waiting-to happen.  They will have
many angry people to answer to if disaster should occur.
2:03 pm edt 

Re: No Responses to the Lagging Assessor

"Think Prop 2 1/2." 
That's even more ridiculous.  Some pay the price
for others.


Don't disagree with your point.  my point was in response to the person who said
the town was losing revenue which is not the case.  If one property is
undervalued, other property owners pay more and that is absolutely not fair.
2:01 pm edt 

170 Bradford Street --- Greedy Owners

I also took a look at the property. The current owners live in Brewster or
somewhere up Cape. I was told the owners have the means to keep paying the taxes
until the house falls down. This is what Chris Snow did. The original price was
$900,000 then they refused an offer of $600,000 and have refused any offers
under $300,000. The house would cost between $500,000 and $700,000 to rebuilt.
With a purchase price of $28,000 in 1970 with very little upkeep for 40 years
they want to cash in with the high property values. Real upstanding townees !!!
And people comment on locals that have been here less than 20 years destroying
the town. At least we are willing to invest in this beautiful town, keep its
character while owners move to other parts of the Cape. This should not be
allowed to happen to a beautiful and historic home. Sell the damn house or at
least clean up the fire trap yard. (and take down the 10 years old scaffording)
1:56 pm edt 

Happy, Scary Halloween! May Commerical Street Rock!

Hope everyone enjoys the celebration and the eerie, scary scenes. Fun to all and
a few candy corns along the way.
1:53 pm edt 

Old House vs New House Construction

Someone blogged that older homes are better built than new ones. Now
it's different. If a house is built within one mile of the water it has to meet
new hurricane standards with all sorts of foundation bracing, special windows
that will not let a 2x4 fly through @140 mph, and all levels must be spanned to
make for a secure stucture . Some of this is unnecessary but the down side to it
all is that the cost to erect a new house is up 30-40%.
1:52 pm edt 

Re: 170 Bradford Street Assessment

Check your town's Assessor's website for property valuations.  I did and the
property is valued at that price.  They have the land listed at $417,000.00 with
the structure valued in the $200,000 bracket.

I inquired about the property.  I wanted to demolish and rebuild in the same
footprint with the exact style home but was told the HDC would not let it be
demolished. 
10:24 am edt 

Re: 170 Bradford Street Assessment

No way, check your property record cards available on the website, oh
mr./ms. know it all.  $668,000 in plain english, assessed value of #170 Bradford
St.  

Oh stop whining, I'll do it for you.

2831 12-4 100 0 R               A ET AL 170  BRADFORD ST 1040 1487 558
$668,300.00 
10:20 am edt 

Board of Health

I am outraged! How can two members
of one of the most influential boards
not be available for winter meetings? At
least Mr. Jensen will return for the public
hearing for septic inspections. Ms. Anathan's
term expires on 12/31/10. She should not re-
apply nor be re-appointed.

I am also upset that the board will conduct
a public hearing in the dead of winter when
there are many property owners who will not
be here. How can these board members
go away for the winter and yet expect a true               
representation on behalf of the property owners
to be here. We like to plan our vacations as well.

Another Kangaroo Court in this Town.
I did not always agree with the former
Chair, Duane Gregory, however she always
conducted a fair and proper meeting.
This new Chair is on a power trip and to
allow the absence of bi-monthly
meetings for one of the most influential boards
is a travesty. Perhaps, he wants to go South
too.

Shove It
10:18 am edt 

Missing Dune

Anyone know whats going on over on Harry Kemp Way?

talk about a missing dune. half of it is in the street.




Wolf in the Fold
10:15 am edt 

Not Only Joe Demartino--There is Also Ellen Baggalatini

She is key in this Planning Board/Abutters issues. She sat on this property
years back and said no to the town person who wanted to separate the land into
two lots. Baggatalini, in her position as Planning member, said no. Then this
town person came back to have two buildings built on Bangs Street. Battaglini,
an abutter, ruled and said no. Baggatalini raised fire safety issues and the
fact tha this was a dead end.

But then, another person comes before her, Gunther Realty, and guess what? All
problems dissapear. Abutting Ted Malone's property, all problems are gone.
Conservation votes for this. Planning sees absolutely no problem and neither
does guess who?  You are right: Ellen Baggatalini. She votes in favor. And no
problems with Zoning.

It is corrupt. It is disgusting. It is appalling. And in this way, Provincetown
gets destroyed by being "developed."

How sad for all of us who care about this town.
10:14 am edt 

Re: No Responses to the Lagging Assessor

"Think Prop 2 1/2." 

That's even more ridiculous.  Some pay the price
for others.
10:08 am edt 

Conflict of Interest

If someone is absent from meetings where an item is being discussed and voted on
where there could have been a possible conflict of interest if present, then
where is the conflict.  Not present at the meetings therefore could not
participate in discussion or vote then how could one be in conflict or the
possibility of a conflict. 
10:06 am edt 

Derelict Properties

Check with  your Insurance Company or your financial institution.  If you own your
home free and clear there is nothing that says one must have insurance.  Of
course it would only make sense to protect one's property from fire, wind, and
vandalism but I don't think you have to have your property insured if there is
no mortgage.
10:04 am edt 

Re: Assessor's Inconsistencies

Historic homes in good locations are collectors items, new homes are usually
chock a block shlock that you could have in any suburb. This is why a well
maintained, and correctly preserved  historic home holds value better than a new
home. Oh, and also they are better built. Believe me, I know.
10:00 am edt 

170 Bradford Street Assessment

No way is 170 Bradford Street valued at $668,000.  What planet did you look that
up on?  Mars????  If that were the case, those owners would have stopped paying
taxes decades ago.....
9:57 am edt 

Friday, October 29, 2010

Re: Joe DeMartino Unfairly Using His position on the Planning Board

State ethics regulations require that public officials avoid conflicts of
interest, and also the appearance of a conflict. If he is innocent of conflict
he is not innocent of the appearance. And quietly resigning from the Planning
Board after the approval does not make it right. The minutes of the Plannning
Board site vist to Bangs street and the subsequent vote to approve the site plan
do note that Realtor Joe was absent from both meetings. Still does not absolve
him from the appearance of a conflict of interest.

If Joe DiMartino were such an upstanding guy he and Coldwell Banker Pat Schultz
would give up the marketing of the "Homes" on the "cul de sac."

Enough to make me puke.

8:21 pm edt 

Re: Bangs St./Joe DeMartino

This issue was blogged about a week ago.  Why
bring up a  weak defense now when it hasn't seen print for a week?  Why put this
subject back on the chopping block, not that it shouldn't be.  We know, town
officials and developers are like peas in a pod.  Who cares about Mr. DeMartino
selling his soul for a few bucks anyway.   Leave the poor broker alone.  It's
not like he's the only one in the boat.  There truly is no honor among thieves
and it is getting harder and harder to recognize them.  And not because
Halloween is around the corner.
8:19 pm edt 

Re: Assessor's Inconsistencies

I happened to be talking to someone I know who owns an historic home and believe
it or not, they said the historic homes hold a higher value than does a newer
structure.  Does that make sense, not to me it doesn't but that's what I've been
informed of.  Now, maybe the information given to me was incorrect but that's
what I was told. Who would know is your Assessor's. 

8:15 pm edt 

Derelict Properties

Someone must be injured on one of these derelict properties for
anything to be done.  I'm not sure how this works but seems EXTREMELY ODD that
my insurance co. does home visits to assess whether I meet insurance standards,
yet these places pass with flying colors.  This may be a place to start.  Stop
insurance and the owners are forced to act.   As far as Mr. DeMartino, he should
be ashamed.  Period.  Visit this development and see for yourself.  The dune is
ruined and what was done to the border with the wetland is disgusting.  See for
yourself.  Period.  Town officials need to heed the call sent today by what
happened to City Councilman Mr. Turner.  What goes on in this town between
royalty on the hill and those making a quick buck is not far off the mark.  And
still no answers to discrepancies in town report or assessor's performance
rating an F on the final. 
8:13 pm edt 

Re: No Responses to the Lagging Assessor

"Some are being taxed much more than others and this town is losing
revenue like heat through an open window in winter not to mention some property
owners making out like bandits."

Actually you are mistaken on this.  Think Prop 2 1/2.
The town can raise say $12,000,000 in property taxes.  This is spread out over
the assessed value of all properties.  If certain properties are undervalued the
town will still collect the $12,000,000.  It's the property owners who are not
undervalued who make up the difference.
8:07 pm edt 

Re: Board of Health

I see there are 4 openings on the board of health.  Who among us will
volunteer??? 
8:04 pm edt 

Bangs Street Development

It is unfair to call out Joe DeMartino for unfairly using his position on a
board to influence the outcome of the new development on Bangs Street.  His only
interest in that property is as the listing broker and desire to see the right
people make it their home.  Joe is a compassionate guy who has done so much for
our community and a broker that can be trusted; more tan can be said about many
other real estate "professionals" in this town.
2:05 pm edt 

Mr. Snow's House

"What were the circumstances when Mr. Snow was required to tear his building
down?"


The curcumstances were that Mr Snow's house was a threat to public safety. Also
that it was fire waiting to happen. Seems like a very similar situation to me.
Mr Snow's house was once a beauty and now, due to a neglectful owner, it is gone
forever. This will probably happen to the wonderful old home at 170 Bradford. I
see many similarities; but, of course, as you are never wrong about ANYTHING, I
look forward to you response to this telling me to leave town.
Too bad, I am here and
1:39 pm edt 

Dealing With Reality/Facts

It is always amazing to me how some people on here just cannot admit
that they were wrong!
Two cases in point:
Despite so much recorded, written and well documented history stating clearly
that Provincetown was indeed one of the richest towns in Massachusetts during
the height of the whaling days, people will not let go of what they "know" to be
factual because of their perceptions about the local architecture

and, two:

after stating that the town cannot tell someone what to do with private property
(complete with "why doncha leave town" rudeness) and then being informed of
three cases in which the town did just that; the person wrote back and says that
because different people were in charge back then, that everything is different
today regarding 170 Bradford...

It is just amazing how the ignorant hold onto their ill informed opinions no
matter what...

a big sign of adulthood is admitting when you may have been wrong...
1:36 pm edt 

Assessor's Inconsistencies

What's all the hullabalu about #170 Bradford?  According to your Town
Assessor, #170 Bradford St. is valued at $668,000.00. New, we all know this
place.  How can the assessed value of this property be almost three hundred
thousand more than an entire new housing development valued by realtors at over
2 million?  What game is this?  When will taxpayers wake up to this?  Something
is very, very wrong with your assessing dept. according to their own reports. 
Some are being taxed much more than others and this town is losing revenue like
heat through an open window in winter not to mention some property owners making
out like bandits.  Yeah, I know, sales price doesn't mean assessed value, but
come on, that doesn't mean you would actually charge $1.00 for something
assessed at a penny which is what is happening in town.  
1:34 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Doors

"Please don't waste my time with your hallucinations.   The Town Hall
doors are not Black!  Get your eyes tested, or sober up."

Really and who needs to sober up? YOU DO!

Everyone disagrees with you! HA

1:30 pm edt 

Houses in Disrepair

There are properties all over town like this one.  Take a look at 101 Bradford
Street, right across from the support group in the center of town.  Mary Jo
lives only a few houses up.  101 has been in worse shape for well over 8 years
and nothing has ever been done.  The health department has looked at the
building, but since no one was living in it, nothing could be done.   These
buildings are all over town.  When does a town have the right to tell someone
how to upkeep property that no one is living inside? 
1:27 pm edt 

Are There Different Rules For the West End??

During the recent discussions about 170 Bradford somebody mentioned
George Bryant's house and referred to the town's insistence that he clean up the
debris in his yard.

Has anybody noticed what's happening at the house next door to the building that
used to be Joe coffee shop, the one Jackson used to live in? The piles of junk
and debris in that yard get bigger every week, not to mention the overgrown
weeds and bushes.

Are there different rules for the West end??
1:25 pm edt 

Re: No Responses to the Lagging Assessor

This lagging assessors timeline seems an obvious source of much needed
revenue for a town with infrastructure in dire need of attention (potholes on
town roads, maintenance, beach cleaning, etc.) yet this subject goes unaddressed
on any serious level?  Seems a re-assessment of properties would cure the leak. 
Curious this problem is ignored by town officials who need new chairs and
drapes. 
1:21 pm edt 

Thursday, October 28, 2010

Re: No Responses to the Lagging Assessor

The property valuation cycle is a matter of state department of revenue
regulations. That is, the assessor took a "snap shot" of the values of January
1, 2009, and those values are used to determine how he levy (total budget to be
raised from property tax) is spread over the tax base (total of assessed
values)for the fiscal year starting July 1, 2009 (FY2010).

The above cycle is a long established and I think pretty well understood
practice in Mass. So I find no fault with the Assessor there. However, we are
now well into FY 2011 and preliminary numbers have not even been produced yet.
This is a problem. It has been a chronic problem in Provincetown for most of my
25 years here. There was a short period of time I think it was when Paul Asher
was the Assessor, in the 1990's? that we actually issued timely tax bills. 
8:49 pm edt 

170 Bradford Street

Hey, like they told the abutters of Bangs St., file a lawsuit if you
don't like it or shut up.

DeCon
7:26 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Doors
 
Maybe the Stain is Too Dark

Couldn't that be a possibility? Better to see the grain than have a dark stain
on the town hall doors. Perhaps the wood absorbed more stain than initially
thought. It's rather dark.
6:54 pm edt 

Town Machinations

Sorry, Bangs St. was obvious "who you know" politics.  Bradford is
neglect and greed on the part of the owner, not a developer destroying the land
in the name of the almighty buck.  Maybe the developer of Bangs St. could
purchase and stick up a couple of prefabs.  Nice.  The house is a mess, true,
and has been for years.  Neighborhood "haunted house".  Nothing more.  Put some
people in or get hurt on the property and you might have a beef.  Hard to
believe a company would provide insurance on this.  There's no law against
eyesores, yet. Also, town hall color is done so just put aside enough funds for
touchup paint and it won't be an issue.  Wear sunglasses when you pass and it
will all be good.  Still, no intelligent answers to the discrepancies between
librarians and town legal counsel in 2009 and the ridiculously confusing
reporting of "figures".  Statistics show that most inaccuracies in financial
reports occur during the first 24 months after an audit.  The the!
ory that entities would be too scared to "try it again" is shown to be
challenged.  Also, no responses to the lagging assessor losing what appears to
be thousands and thousands of rightful revenue of the town. 
6:40 pm edt 

Re: Black Doors at Town Hall

Please don't waste my time with your hallucinations.   The Town Hall doors are
not Black!  Get your eyes tested, or sober up.
6:35 pm edt 

The Real Scandal

170 BRADORD STREET SCANDALL
The situation with this building is attocious.  How can the building department
let his continue.  Is it because someone who is very powerful at the building
department allows this to go on?  If I had scafolding on my house for years, as
exist at this disgracefull property, I am sure this powerfull person at the
building department would go beserk on me.  How about the Historical District
Commission doing nothing about this disgusting property.  Do they not care
because of the powerfull person at the building department who regularly appears
before them.  It is time for all of the neighbors, and the rest of this town to
get involved and put an end to this.  No special treatment for the well
connected.  It is unjust for this situation to continue---IT REALLY IS A
SCANDALL
6:33 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Doors

To the mean people responding to the black doors at Town Hall blog-
thay are not the only ones thinking they saw black doors. I said the same thing
to myself when i went by the other day. I saw black ! It may have been a
preservative etc, but that's no reason for you to be so nasty in your comments !
12:59 pm edt 

Re: Free Money

Where is that $151,000.00 going?
Taxpayers need to know.

The Accountant
12:57 pm edt 

Re: Free Money

"Howerver, let's see where the remaining $151K will go.
Will our taxes get reduced or will they use these funds for non appropriated
expenses?"


I just recently spoke to the Finance Director regarding this very issue.  I'd
asked him what happened to the money when the actual cost of a project comes in
less than what was voted on.  He told me that he will be requesting an article
be brought forward at the April Town Meeting to close out a number of old
articles which then returns the monies to the general fund.  If he does what he
says he's going to do then this article should show up in April to close out the
unused funds.
12:56 pm edt 

Provincetown is Funky Rather Than Elegant

This is town with many funky buildings and once small cottages and working class
buildings. There are some beautiful structures but they are rather the exception
than the rule. It has charm but that is different from being architecturally
distinctive.
12:22 pm edt 

Town Hall Doors

I Thought the Doors Looked Rather Dark Too

That is what I think someone believed when they thought the doors for town hall
were black. I don't see that as spreading a rumor but someone's reponse to
colors that they found too dark or surprisingly darker than expected. People
have every right to post what they think and that is far removed from spreading
rumors.
12:20 pm edt 

Free Money

I finnaly figured out what "free money"
is. At TM they request more for a project
and if and when the bid is lower they have
the reserve to spent. $300K was appropriated
for the Town owed properties evaluation.
Apparently it is going to cost $149k. Kudos
for the reasonable bid. Howerver, let's see
where the remaining $151K will go.
Will our taxes get reduced or will they
use these funds for non appropriated
expenses?

Robbing Peter to pay Paul
12:19 pm edt 

Town Hall Doors

To the blogger who said:  "that the Town Hall doors being painted black
was "false, negative and inaccurate." Exactly what are YOU  smoking or drinking?"
 

In fact I walked by the doors yesterday and the wood was natural and now it has
been painted or stained. YOUR posting is the one that is [in]accurate.

10:48 am edt 

Provincetown's Rich Fishing Industry Tradition

I remember my father, my uncles, my grandfather, my brothers in
summer, etc. leaving for week+ long fishing trips to Stellwagon and Georges
banks with us not knowing as the boat turned the point if we would ever see or
hear from them again.  Each time they went.  No cell phones, no gps, no radar,
only a compass and a nose for the weather.  Day trippers they were not.  You
know little of the fishing history of this town and it shows.  
10:14 am edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation
 
To the blogger who started the rumor that Town Hall doors were painted black. 
You typify the vast majority of postings on this blog (i.e. false, negative and
inaccurate).  What are you smoking or drinking?   This was a totally inaccurate
and false posting, which is just one of many examples of the negative untruths
posted here and why there are so many false rumors in town.  Town Hall doors are
not black.   This is one posting that is accurate.
10:11 am edt 

What a Silly Conversation

"In a formal meeting the correct way to address the Town Manager is:
"Ms. Lynn".
Who are you to call her by her fist name?"


My experience with Sharon is that she is a warm and
caring person.  While protocol may be to call her Ms. Lynn in a formal meeting
I'm sure she is not upset when someone calls her Sharon.
10:09 am edt 

170 Bradford Street- The Real Scandal

We talk for months about the Bangs Street development scandal and weeks about
the colors of town hall.  Meanwhile, we all have to pass this fire hazzard mess
every day and nothing is ever done.  Emails sent to the building department
almost 2 years ago during the arson fires expressing concern about this property
were never acknowledged or answered.  This is a scandal!!!  Where are the
endless photos of this disaster to scroll through for weeks on end to get to any
comments?
10:07 am edt 

Can't see the Forest For the Trees

I feel sorry for the person who can't seem to notice that we do in
deed have many captain houses, and yes even some grand old buildings. Open your
eyes and get away from your computer screen.
12:35 am edt 

Wednesday, October 27, 2010

How Many Grand buildings?

We don't have many. We have few Captain's mansions. We have few great and
architecturally significant buildings. Provincetown did not grow rich during the
whaling days. Few captins often to live here. This town was and still remains a
day tripping sea boat operations. This town was not into and still is not into
ten day Geroges Bank fishing trips. It was poor and remains so in its basic
structure.
11:54 pm edt 

Where's the Scandal and Special Treatment at 170 Bradford

What were the circumstances when Mr. Snow was required to tear his building
down?  Do we not have a different Building Commissioner now than then?  What
were the laws back then and how were they applied as opposed to now?  As for
George Bryant, was he required to tear his house down or just clean up some of
the years of collecting junk around it.

Do we know what the offers were that the property owners refused?  Seems like
there's a lot of people discussing and writing things that don't have all the
facts.  I like to have all of my facts before I put anything in writing.

11:50 pm edt 

BOS Chair & Ms Lynn

Re:" How she tosses "Ms. Lynn" as if Sharon is a peon. I resent
her attitude."


In a formal meeting the correct way to address the Town Manager is: "Ms. Lynn".

Who are you to call her by her fist name? 
11:48 pm edt 

Maybe Some of Us Judge the Chair of BOS by Her Actions

And what are they? Poor, ill-thought and not the best for the town. She was a
backer of Warren Tobias, she is a backer fo tEd Malone, she is a go-for for her
questioanable landlord. Maybe, just maybe, these actions raise questions about
her with some of her.

Spectacular leader of this group, she is not. She is a disaappointment and a sad
and arrogant chair. How she tosses "Ms. Lynn" as if Sharon is a peon. I resent
her attitude.
9:05 pm edt 

Tea Party Postings

I agree about this blog always putting down our town manager and
selectmen. I have nothing to agree with a lot of what they do, but in the past
few elections and town meetings I have agreed with them and even voted for them
because of my anger with this blogs views against them. Frogs are not my
favorite, but I can't stand the tea partiers on this blog.
8:47 pm edt 

Past Wealth of Provincetown

For the blogger who said if the town was so wealthy, where are all the
captains houses in town? Well, if you look at 170 Bradford Street you will see
what had happened to most of the beautiful captains homes that we used to have
in town. They were neglected and torn down, burned or totally changed that you
would never recognize them today. Case in point, the Lancey mansion above what
is now front street restaurant. How sad the locals allowed that to happen. Also
if the town was so poor? How do explain all of the grand buildings that we do
still have like town hall? A poor town would never have built such a building.
We were a very wealthy town at one point in time and thank goodness we will be
again with the new money coming into town now.
8:39 pm edt 

What a Beautiful Day!

Once again, I challenge everyone who posts on
this blog to post something positive. Stop the negativity. If you aren't happy
with the present leadership and the way the town is being run, then run for
office!

Make YOURSELF proud!Associate yourself with people of good quality, for it is
better to be alone than in bad company. - Booker T. Washington
8:07 pm edt 

Re: 170 Bradford Street

I'd like to chime in on 170 Bradford. In my dreams I would love to be
able to buy it. I can't afford it as it is but if I could I could never afford
to restore it with the historic district regs. .... It would need hurricane
windows, fire retardant siding  and so many other things that cost so much more
than any ordinary person could afford, never mind having to do all this and
please HDC. This building is going to be lost and I will cry as I continue to
dream. It will at some point be a parking lot.
8:04 pm edt 

Re: Special Treatment

Actually, you are the one who deserves pity. FYI, I have looked into buying that
house, and the owners demand much more than anyone in their right mind wsould
pay.

Your language speaks to your small mind.
Please, why don't YOU leave town??? You hardly sound neighborly or like anyone
worth spending time with. I pity you.
8:01 pm edt 

Re: Where's the Scandal at 170 Bradford?

The town made chris snow tear down his derelict house on commercial
street.

The town made george bryant clean up the mess in his yard.
Obviously, if the town wanted to take action on 170 bradford, they could.

Also, yes, the house is for sale, but the owners won't consider any offers less
than $450,000 (numerous lower offers have been made and rejected). Do the math:
$450,000 for the house, plus a minimum of 500,000 to rehab the place... again,
do the math; they allowed a wonderful home to rot, and now want a kings ransom
for it.

Your smug comment only adds to the injustice of it all.
7:59 pm edt 

Where's the Scandal at 170 Bradford Street?

You say: "if we don't like it buy it!!"

This property has been on the market for years starting at $900,000 when it was
purchased in 1970 for $28,000 and no improvements ever.  The owners have no
concern for their neighbor's safety while the rest have to conform to endless
regulations and reviews for every change anyone wants to make.

This is a scandal!!   
7:55 pm edt 

You Have Missed The Point: People Who Are Here Are Here

You have no right to tell anyone to leave. If someone wants to be here, they are
here. And who are you? Are you above the fray? Are you Snow White? Or perhaps
one of the elves.

No one has any right to tell anyone they should leave. If you don't like their
statements or if you don't like their politics, that is not your business. It is
essentially theirs.

Perhaps you sadly and tragically don't understand America.


4:31 pm edt 

The Ugly Wart Strewn Toad is Out Again

Enough with your nonsense and immaturity. Do you really think you are going to
sway people to hate MC like you do? No, if anything quite the opposite. she gets
my sympathy vote having to deal with morons like you attacking her and many,
many others feel the same way I do.

4:29 pm edt 

Paint Colors

$64 million in unfunded retiree healthcare obligations that will either bankrupt
the town or squeeze out all other spending or result in massive tax increases
over time and we are bickering about paint colors that people could have had
input on years ago. Get real people.

4:28 pm edt 

Town Hall

This taxpayer thinks town hall looks spectacular. Congratulations to all
involved in its caring and well supervised restoration despite some bumps along
the way as with any major project. It is fanstastic, colors and all.

4:26 pm edt 

And Then There Were Non

It is ironic to see a thread of discourse re: special treatment for
some at the same time a poster urges those of us that have concerns about the
flagrant illegal parking on Alden St. to "report it to the authorities.  The
authorities are fully aware of the situation since they are in and out of the
town buliding across the street daily, the parking patrol drives by these
vehicles daily, the police drive by these vehicles daily,  there is no one left
to report it to.
4:25 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

Can we please buy a really, really expensive color-matching figurehead
for the bow of town hall?  Now that would be fitting architecturally and with
fishing village notions of yesteryear.
4:24 pm edt 

Maybe, Just Maybe Town Hall Colors are Those of a Frog

Perhaps that was the appeal. The greenish, yellowish colors are similar to frogs
and do well camouflaging against the rest of the envrironment. A love of frogs
and therefore it follows a love of town hall colors. Seemed there's a connection
here in the land of the lily pond.
1:59 pm edt 

Next You'll Want a Painted Lady at the Library

You'll want every town building to be painted multi-colors and look like
Victorian structures when this style would not fit these buildings. There is a
reson tht the UU is white; that the library is whatie. Town hall should have
remained white.

Flwless, no more like clueless. And just look at the cost to repaint each paint
in the next not-to-far-away years. It was the "rabbit" they pulled out of the
black hat to get us "excited" about town hall and fork up the $98 million. That
is all it was. And too many feel for it.
1:57 pm edt 

Re: Special Treatment

I feel sorry for you. Your language says it all.  You obviously do not have any
of the  facts about that property. It appears that you look at everything with a 
negative slant. Please increase your maturity or, if you are so unhappy here,
please leave. I do not think there are any by-laws that prohibit you from
leaving.
1:18 pm edt 

Where's the Scandal at 170 Bradford?

I agree that the house is a mess and has been for decades, but where's the
scandal?

The town can't tell someone what to do with private property.  The building may
be uninhabitable (and I don't believe anyone is living in it) but the building
has not been condemned.  Even if it were condemned, Historic would never let
them tear it down.  No one's living in it, so there's no code violations.  The
town has no recourse to force someone to rehab the building.  Where's the
scandal?

The property is for sale.  If you don't like it, buy it.
1:17 pm edt 

Special Treatment For Some

I agree, if you want to see the best example of old time locals
getting special treatment, look no further than the derelict fire hazard on the
corner of bradford and brewster streets...170 bradford has sat empty and rotting
since the mid seventies. It is owned by an old local family who allowed this
once  magestic home to sit empty and open to the elements, creating an eyesore
and a hazard for the entire neighborhood. I am a neighbor of this disaster
waiting to happen, and I bet that the town would come down on me hard if I
allowed my home to fall into such disrepair... of course, I am just a gay
washashore who's only been in town for 25 years... different rules for me. The
biggest joke in all this? Anytime I want to do anything to my home, I need to 
file papers through one of           of this s#!%hole, and    doesn't let
anyone else get away with anything!!! Such a typical sad ptown  story...
11:46 am edt 

Ptown Scandal

THE BIGGEST PTOWN SCANDAL OF THEM ALL

Is the disgrace at 170 Bradford Street
8:51 am edt 

Hi Rat

The HDC were given three ideas for designs including recreating the bronze cast
iron fountain there in the early 1900's with a pet component modification.  They
HDC  chose the model installed. They could have asked for more fountain designs
but liked this design as they felt it would not compete with other statuary on
the lawn. I do think they made a good choice.
8:49 am edt 

Re: Dog Fountain

So Braun designed the whole fountain thing. That makes sense, as
architects do tend to install things that are totally out of context with their
surroundings. Why didn't they just reuse the bench they took out?  The link
below is more of what I was thinking we would be getting for a fountain. The one
we have now is a bit too modern for its location isn't it?

ww(dot)murdock-supersecur(dot)com/traditional-fountains/classic-series/m-c76-2b-pf

A Rat In The Basement
8:05 am edt 

Tuesday, October 26, 2010

Re: Hijacked Blog

"...is hijacked by the fools and scoundrels who use it not to create or
add to the debate  with fact based opinions but to sabotage, demean and try to
wreck lives. It is an advertisement for the bitterness and bile that a few harbor, nursing their
grievances in the dark cloak that anonymity provides."


Wow! This entertaining blog? Really? I've been reading since the beginning and I
know I'm not a fool or a scoundral, just a hard working taxpayer...

The recent TH color debate leaves me wondering where everyone was a few years
ago when 'experts' 'discovered' the colors? This is one of those idiots delight
subjects that is better left unread...

Same for the idiot who thinks history began with Whale Watching...go read a
book...

As far as the golden fountain with the tiny benches...How funny is that! I
noticed they are missing now, oh my, someone finally noticed. Just goes to show
how important Russell is...he takes the blame so well...

I do feel sorry for the Alden st. blogger...you are getting a real education in
how things work here...so many levels of entitelment exist,by the time you learn
them all you will give up...they are counting on it...

I'll wrap my self in my cloak of anonymity now...

I remain,

The ONLY Pebble on the Beach
11:58 pm edt 

La Trasha Blanc - Town Hall Color

You are clueless about the history of the town, the previous, underlying
(historical) colors of the building and the PAAM incident.  I'll digress since
other bloggers have pointed out your inept attempt to discredit without
knowledge on any of these facts.  Get offline and volunteer or go to the library
... both would do you some good in getting rid of that chip on your shoulder. 
AND, PS... the color of town hall is FLAWLESS!
11:55 pm edt 

Alden St. Parking Complaint

Did you call the police to ticket the cars or just blog about it?  Unless police
reports are made the violations will continue.
11:53 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

Dear Rat in the Basement,

Stick It!  Town hall looks great and will be maintained.
11:52 pm edt 

Re: Developers on Boards

Let me try this another way.  I'm not on the defensive, I'm merely trying to
point out that the bylaws are written for the benefit of everyone and not just
the year round resident/taxpayer. If someone chooses to purchase a property and
then not have that as their primary residence then that is their choice.  Where
does it say one must be a year-round resident/taxpayer living here year round in
order to have the benefit of the town's bylaws.

Again, if someone does not like the building and development taking place in
Provincetown then the way to control development is through having stringent
bylaws.

As for the town boards, there must be openings on some town boards if all these
rich people are buying up the town and not living here year round.
9:04 pm edt 

Re: Housing Developers

Those "road blocks" are put in place to protect the town as a whole
from over development.

Why then did one of our BOS allow a home to be built with 3 extra bedrooms?  95
Bradford street had 4 legal bedrooms and we all know Austin knew it and still
allowed "go around the road blocks" to be allowed for a friend.

Did a BOS protect everyone or was he trying only to protect his friend?   Mr
Knight could care less about this town and it's residents.

9:00 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

I hope I was wrong but when I drove by town hall today the doors
looked like they were painted black. I remember they tried to do that many years
ago it it was stopped. They doors look(ed) beautiful. I will walk by tomorrow. I
hope I am wrong!
8:59 pm edt 

Re: Dog Fountain & Benches

Hi Rat in...

The proponent of the dog fountain received the support of the Disabilities
Commission. As you know, the fountain is ADA approved allowing those in
wheelchairs access to it.
The proponent immediately saw once the benches were installed they were not the
height approved by the ADA and
notified the Town to adjust them so that they would be in ADA compliance.

The benches were all damaged when received and have been returned for
replacement or repair. When they come back they will be surface mounted for ADA
compliance

The problem through-out the installation has been Russ Braun's incompetent
oversight of the installation.

8:57 pm edt 

Re: Dog Fountain

Dear Rat...You can blame Russell Braun for the bench height with his
$8000 architect plans.  And to the person who has to gripe about who paid for
the fountain etal around it...Maybe if I make it big you will get it...IT WAS
PRIVATELY FUNDED NO TAXPAYER MONEY  Do you get it now or are you still going to
carry on? Call Town Hall.
11:46 am edt 

Puke Pea Soup Green

Thanks for nailing the color. You are funny and this is a perfect description of
town hall. Don't look on the sides, you'll see rust stains and it's already
starting to peel.

You must be a poet! Or a great colorist!Thanks for the laugh.
11:05 am edt 

Re: Housing Developers

To: The blogger who says certain developers know how to get around the
"road blocks"

Those "road blocks" are put in place to protect the town as a whole from over
development. They are there to protect everyone who owns property here and not
just certain developers who want what they want and could care less about this
town and their fellow residents.

That's the problem here - a certain few can get what they want and get around
"road blocks" and the rest of the town suffers.
10:44 am edt 

Re: Town Hall Colors

Nothing original about returning to those colors. I can think of at least 4
buildings in Town with the same color scheme. The most obvious being the Crowne
Pointe.

And my guess is that in 25 or 30 years Towns people will paint it white again
because of the cost to maintain it with so many colors. Just like the rest of
New England.

I wonder if its peeling yet. Lets try to get a close look and see.

A Rat In The Basement
10:41 am edt 

Re: Dog Fountain

IMHO.

About these dog fountain benches. Did anyone else notice that they were
installed too low. When I sat on them it was like sitting on one of those sofas
from the 60's with my knees up about rib cage height.

I didn't really care for the narrow metal ribs. The wider wood ones on the
existing benches are more comfortable.

The design is nice I guess, but I don't understand how it has any relation to
Town Hall, or the other benches. They have a completely different shape, feel,
and look to them. Every physical characteristic is different. How do they
relate?

Don't get me wrong. I love the whole idea. Ill even sit under them if the same
benches return. I think that people should be thanked for taking the time to
make this happen. But someone fell short on the design of the whole thing.

A Rat In The Basement

10:39 am edt 

Town Hall Was a Snow Job

Frog Lady proclaimed that there would be no
new furniture...Now there is, bill footed by  citizens. She is really great on
the double sided frog mouth promise. Why no chairs in the auditorium?  Because
Couture decided a while ago that she would be able to use the generous people of
provincetown to sell them chairs with plaques on the back. Now other people are
raising money to pay for them.  Michele grabbed money from the Tourism office to
pay for the drapes.  She knew that would be harder to get donations for.  But
chairs for the people who paid and will pay for decades for town hall. Nope This
woman is a disgrace to the town along with Austin Knight who has been caught
with his pants down.
I know Bryan Green would never run for this office again. Unfortunately.
10:37 am edt 

Alden Street Parking

I have many times read complaints about parking on Alden Street in a
no parking zone but never personally witnessed it.  Last night was changed that,
almost tragically.  After playing cards (as I do most Mondays at the GG building
I took a left turn out of the driveway onto Alden, a narrow stretch of Alden
Street which is SUPPOSED to be a no parking zone (at least thats what the signs
all along the street say).    This was at about 10:15 pm.  I was taking a wide
left so that I would be on the correct side of the street (since it is a 2 way
street) and almost rear-ended a car PARKED on the street right under the NO
PARKING sign.  I had to stop and back up to correct my turn to clear that
vehicle; meanwhile someone else was behind my also about to make the left and
did not realize I was about to back up!  Luckily they saw my warning lights just
in time!  After they backed up and I was able to correct my turn and head home 
I realized there were THREE VEHICLES (a car,!
  a taxi cab and a pick up truck) all parked illegally in an unlit no parking
zone, on a narrow 2 way  street.  Where else in town is this allowed?
10:35 am edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

There were no traces of white paint next to the wood of all the
samples of paint of town hall. Also the price of white paint was the same as the
colored paint. The historic colors are the right choice. That is anybody with
taste.
10:33 am edt 

Re: Someone is Drinking the Whale Oil

Nobody should keep on arguing with the blogger who keeps saying that
the town was never wealthy. He/she most likely has never read the history of the
town.
10:31 am edt 

Re: Town Hall Color

I have to let this out. The new color of town hall is a perfect reflection of
where we are today with our leadership and that is puke pea soup green. Which of
our color blind town leaders  picked this sad and depressing color. Was it the
town leader who really was not denied access to the PAMM toilets even though it
was reported that access was denied. What a sad state of affairs, lying town
leaders who spend all of our tax money on "studies" and consultants thinking
that they are the overlords of a metropolis. I say to them, get a grip on
reality, this is a tiny town and we are tired of our money being spent
foolishly.  And as for the $37K dog fountain, I really don't think our money
could be better spent especially when my dog loves to drink out of the toilet.
We need to get a grip on how real people live, forget about the seven dollar cup
of chilly and give up the idea that we are special because "this is
Provincetown".           
LaTrasha Blanc
10:30 am edt 

Monday, October 25, 2010

Re: Town Hall Renovation

White Was the Color of Town Hall?

But these other myriad colors were "discovered" by our Boston architects and
they were so pleased to find these pieces of paint under the white. Had they
looked further under the colors, they would have found even more white paint.

Then Sharon smiled, then Michele found herself in giggles and they gave the
architects the go ahead to paint town hall greenish-yellow, marone trim and
greenish tones. They were so thrilled.

But,as for some of us, what was this all about? A paint job that justifed $9
million in expenses. That was the real paint job, if not the real snow job.
10:55 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

Town halls paint colors were researched from old paint chips
scientifically analyzed to reveal the colors we now love on town hall.
10:54 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

Hey Victoria! The color now on town hall is very popular. Just click
on any home improvement web page and you can be educated on paint color. Your in
the minority about painting town hall white.
10:52 pm edt 

Re: Dog Fountain

37 K$ for the dog fountain!!!

Bow Wow
10:51 pm edt 

Someone's Drinking the Whale Oil

The richest town? When? I don't think so. Just look around.This is not a legacy
of riches but of rather poor town people who built with common sense and
restraint.
10:50 pm edt 

Re: Anonymous Posting

Last I heard anonymity is not compulsory.
10:41 pm edt 

Re: Historic Provincetown

Where were the whaling fleets from? Here? Then Where are the many
captains mansions? The wharves were great but that does not make this town the
richest.

I'd recheck my facts if I were you. Do you architecture that reflects this
luxury and this wealth? Funky, yes. Exclusively rich? Hardly.
10:38 pm edt 

The Sad Thing About This Blog

This blog could be the kernel of a fantastic idea, more public participation in
solving the issues facing the town. It could be a way for both residents and non
resident owners to share information and ideas and offer legitimate comment on
public issues. However, as with most anonymous Internet forums it is hijacked by
the fools and scoundrels who use it not to create or add to the debate  with
fact based opinions but to sabotage, demean and try to wreck lives. It is an
advertisement for the bitterness and bile that a few harbor, nursing their
grievances in the dark cloak that anonymity provides. We read ad naseum after
the fact complaints about issues that were discussed and decided on long ago in
public forums and processes. We read paranoid rantings about non existent
conspiracies and petty grievances about dogs and paint color.

It really is a shame.
10:36 pm edt 

Re: Bangs Street Development

Why pick on Mr. DiMartino for trying to broker a deal.  The guy should be able
to make a living in this town and being reputable isn't a requirement for that
job.  Mr. DiMartino has been developing properties with his partner in town for
years and they know how to get around road blocks.  If you need a creative
solution, hire Mr. DiMartino.
10:34 pm edt 

Re: Zoning Bylaws

The zoning bylaw meetings occurred throughout the course of the summer. Each
meeting had an agenda and public notice. Town staff and board members answered
pre meeting questions speedily and took written and spoken public input and even
allowed the public to engage in the discussions, but not of course the votes.
The results were passed to the Planning Boar where additional review and
discussion occurred again in public noticed meetings. The changes were published
before the meetings in the newspaper. There is even one more meeting before town
meeting where the public has a chance to comment. To my knowledge, after the
first meeting, only three members of the public attended including the
blogmaster and his wife. There was zero undue influence by developers and the
much maligned mr Malone wrote one section, the one that clarifies roof rules.

To anonymously snipe at the process now through this forum and insinuate it was
a developer controlled process and done out of view of public is a bald faced
lie. Don't buy it people. The much improved and clarified proposed by laws are
the result of a very hard slog ably guided by town staff and done by two levels
of town committees then vetted by the board of selectmen with public input. That
is the way the process works as it should in a democracy. Those now trying to
sabotage and demean all that hard work are miserable people who are too lazy or
stupid to actually engage in the process, don't bother paying attention to them.

As with so many other false assertions on here a simple fact check of the public
record, or attendance at even one meeting, proves the assertion wrong and is the
work of destructive people. Please come to town meeting and see this long needed
update through to completion. If you have questions beforehand town staff can
answer them or come to the next Planning Board meeting.

- not a town employee, etc. (nor a developer or employed by one)
10:32 pm edt 

Re: Bryan Green RUNNIN FOR SELECTMAN

Are you out of your mind.! I have to respond to the idiocy of your statement. The moral of my event was ..now listen closely.. how wonderful it was to see a bunch of strangers coming
together for a common goal of human kindness.I realize that was lost on you.

Yes I served on many boards while running my own business and working a second
job and devoting my time to the town.

Yes I voted for town hall rehab and look where that got me.
And I was the only one in town with any balls to stand up to Ted Malone and say
NO and look where that got me.

So Sir or Madam for you to suggest that I reenter that underhanded world is
absurd and you know nothing about me. dirty deals are the reasons I quit them
all.

I served my town and did so with pride and I performed an act of human kindness
that may have saved a humans life.
So I ask you what have you done for your town today and what act of human
kindness have you performed today.

My advise to you is sit back and pour yourself a warm glass of S.T.F.U.
So sit back and spew all the venom you want and do nothing except complain

Bryan Green
10:28 pm edt 

Re: Dog Biter

I'll admit I don't read every post on here because it gives me a
headache, but to the person who said military people aren't welcome in
Provincetown......
If it weren't for those military people and thousands of others like them, we'd
be speaking German and web sites like this would be illegal. You should be
ashamed of yourself!!!
To any military person who might read this:
THANK YOU for your service.
10:25 pm edt 

Re: Tax Assessment Machinations

The town is lagging on assessments.  Why? Not enough people working in
the assessor's office to keep up.   I don't buy it.  If I put up a shed or a dog
house I can guarantee my tax bill will go up  and quick or I'll be socked with a
retroactive bill or some nonsense to bleed money out of me.  But a property
whose value should be at least  5 times what it is now  doesn't cause an eyebrow
to be raised.  How is it this owner/developer will ever pay tax on this
creation?  Who will pay the tax on real time now.   What if units sell? New
owners will pay for a time period when they didn't own it  since the town is
lagging?  This makes no sense.  When will the actual developer pay the tax on
what they built if assessments are lagging?  This doesn't just go for Bangs St.
but all multi unit projects all over town.  So what, the town is losing
thousands of tax dollars because the assessor's office is lagging?  This sounds
really bogus.  Please clarify when the developer will !
pay the tax on the actual, physical houses stuck on what used to be Bangs St.
Ext. for example, if the units sell before the next assessment?  Seems like
never if your logic is correct.  Help me understand please because my bill was
assessed correctly this past "fiscal" year.  
10:23 pm edt 

Re: Property Tax Assassment

So when will the owner of the property when developed have to pay
taxes on its true value if they sell before the town catches up? 
10:20 pm edt 

Re: "..And a Very Old Picture Shows a White Town Hall

I'm not expert, but old photographs were in black and white or sepia tones, if I
have the term correct. Thus no one knows for sure the original color. But I
think the building looks great. I love the way they designed the wheelchair ramp
to slope down to the basement entrance. And I cannot wait to go to the open
house and wear my tag that says I paid for it. Perhaps I'll sew it to my over
coat in scarlet letters.
10:18 pm edt 

Historic Provincetown

Provincetown became the whale watch capitol of the world in the
seventies and to this day remains so.
10:16 pm edt 

Historic Fact

Provincetown was the third largest whaling town in the state! Just
behind Nantucket and New Bedford. Another  historic fact.
10:13 pm edt 

Dog Fountain & Russell Braun

The dog park folks did not contribute dog park funds to the dog
fountain on the town hall lawn. It is easily verified at the finance director's
office as there is a print out available of all donors and donations to the
project.

I also know the proponent of the dog fountain project  asked that Mr. Braun be
removed from overseeing its installation due to lack of proper oversight
(euphemism for incompetence). I believe he was quietly phased out of that
oversight....
10:12 pm edt 

Town Hall Renovation

Provincetown's town hall was never meant to be totally white. Painting
it white was just a lazy and cheap way to paint it so to use the extra funds on
other things  like all of the schools we had because the local families didn't
believe in birth control.
10:10 pm edt 

Town Hall

Sorry - the color may be historical but it is somewhat depressing.  That look
may have been in vogue back in the Victorian period - but Victoria has been dead
since 1901 and so has that color.

It was a wonderful and well intentioned attempt though.
10:09 pm edt 

Dog Fountain

The dog/people fountain did not cost the tax payer anything.
10:08 pm edt 

Who is NOT the Historian?

Yes I stand corrected. This town was not one of the wealthiest in the
state, but was THE wealthiest! The wealth mostly disappeared when the portuguese
moved in and the Yankees moved out. Now the portuguese have moved out and the
wealthy have moved back in.
10:06 pm edt 

Re: Bangs Street Development-Tax Assessment

Thank you for the assessment answer.  That makes sense.
4:23 pm edt 

Dog Fountain Cost

I hear Russel Braun brought in expensive architects for the dog
fountain and ate up the funds.  Anyone know how much money was paid out by the
dog assocation for this fountain?
12:16 pm edt 

Re: Brian Green

I like Brian Green's posting a lot better that many of the other posts
I've read here, with yours being #1 on the bottom. Seems the man is one and
signs his name.  Oh excuse me , that means he wants to run for BOS again.  If I
recall correctly, he dropped out of the race because of personal reasons,
probably people like you. Thanks Brian for what is known as a human interest
story. Unfortunately one has to be human to understand that.
12:14 pm edt 

Re: Bangs Street Development

There is a lag time in the assessing process. current P-town assessments are for
FY 2010, and reflect the assessed value as of January 1, 2009. Probably
construction had not begun. So the assessed value would be for a vacant lot.
12:12 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

I believe I also read somewhere in a history book that during the
latter half of the 19th cent. there were over 500 students at the school...  and
a very old picture shows a white town hall. 
12:11 pm edt 

Who is NOT the Historian

Here is a direct quote from a published history of our town:

"During the latter half of the nineteenth century, Provincetown was the richest
town per capita in Massachusetts, with 54 long wharves, a mackerel fleet, Grand
Bankers and Georges Bankers, and 56 whaling ships; at times, there were 700
ships crowded into the harbor, and the town supplied them all - Provincetowns
Golden Era"


And your source of information would be?

You can have an opinion on a lot of things, but historical facts are historical
facts.
11:05 am edt 

Town Hall Colors

I love the colors..original or not..white is like a blank canvas waiting to be
painted...or...decorators that are insecure with their own or client's taste.
11:03 am edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

"...had terrible taste, picked the cheapest color available or, was
merely drunk."


In Provincetown?

Hard to imagine any of that.
11:01 am edt 

Re: Bangs Street Development

Agreed, a building's sale price has nothing to do with it's assessed
value, although in this day and age of the internet when it is not hard to look
up assessed values, I would expect at least a curiousity on the part of a buyer. 
However, the fact there is a sales price at all indicates there is a value more
than zero.  How can the assessed value of a property be less after it's built
out, say with even 1 house on the market for 1/2 million, than before when it
was an empty lot?  This seems incorrect and very skewed.  Please explain in a
layperson's term to me the logic used to determine a lesser assessed value, by
hundreds of thousands, after construction than before.  I am having alot of
trouble swallowing this and I should think other taxpayers would also. 
10:59 am edt 

Re: Bryan Green

Great story Bryan and glad you were there and were able to help.  But your point
on this blog is?
You want to show us you care about this town?  Everyone cares about this town.  
Seems most of the issues here are about how our leaders are spending money that
we do not have.   Or how developers get away with permitting with puppets.  Or
how people get paid from "secret" accounts or accounts from "other" contractors
but are really town employees.  Sounds like your setting yourself up to run for
the BOS again? 
10:57 am edt 

The Dog Biter...

Is she the one who blamed dog waste for beach closings
while her sewage goes into the harbor because she won't connect to the sewer? 
Is she the one who was seen kicking a dog?  Is she the one who keeps trying to
shove down town residents' throats a real estate surtax no matter how many times
it is turned down? Is she the one who stated military personnel should not visit
here because they are not welcome? I wonder if she was the dog hater who kept
posting negative things about the fountain and the dog park who has noticably
disappeared.
10:55 am edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation
 
Keep in mind too that, although it would be very nice to have local talent do
the work, all of which I am completely sure they could do, no question, it
usually comes down to insurance. Workers need liability insurance and workmans
comp to work on these types of municipal contracts and most local contractors,
due to their being individual or small companies, don't carry comp and they work
it out otherwise. Then there is bonding and other municipal certifications that
small companies generally don't have due to the small amount of municipal work
going on. It's not worth their time.
Keep in mind also, it's usually easier to hire one company with numerous
employees as opposed to numerous individual contractors. The job goes a lot
smoother and faster with one chief as opposed to many.
10:54 am edt 

Sunday, October 24, 2010

Sorry, But You are No Historian

Provincetown one of the wealthiest? This was a poor town. Look crarefully at the
architecture. Please. It was simple, poor and funky. There were few rich
captains, almost no whaling captains and thus the architecture is of a poor town
on the waterfornt. Please, this place became rich only in these last few years
due not to waterfront, not to fishing, but to gender preferences. Let's not
confuse issues here.

It is still architecturely poor, if not questionable in taste. But it has never
been rich in its history or in its architecture. It is not Marblehead. It is not
Boston. It is not New Bedford. Whales now only swim pass tourists but they never
were the backbone of this town's industry.

Please, do not write our history and do not ever write our epitaph! You do not
even know us.
11:17 pm edt 

Re: Real Estate Tax

Dog biter delusion ally believes that people are sitting on the sidelines
waiting to invest in Provincetown real estate, and will willingly pay .5 % tax. 
She is ignoring all the foreclosures that are occurring, resulting in more
homelessness in Ptown.  Easy for her to think as she        another        in
her expensive east end home, while her raw sewage is running into the harbor.
10:17 pm edt 

You Have Fu..lly Missed the Point

No one ever believed town hall would be "saved" by volunteers tinkering with
town hall issues and problems. But when a large contract was available for he
so-called and so-named "repairs" there are so many wonderful and talented town
contracters and town architects that could have been brought in to do the work.
Not to give them pennies but to give them part of the millions. But no--the
monies went to outsiders.

I don't believe town fathers and town "mothers" would be proud. They would
admonish you for being so damn foolish to send our monies out of town and to
spend excessively for a building that should and could have been repaired with
maybe one million or maybe even two million dollars.

But no. The amount is more like $9 million and it is ridiculous. Town elders
would be and are turning in their graves. This is stupid and actually
disgusting.

No one is West Goshen would have spent $7 million fixing up that poor little
building. So, why, Sharon, when you are annointed here, would you do what you
would not have done in West Goshen?

I am sickened with the BOS and your attitude to town spending. It is exessive
and sick. We need fiscal restraints and proper administration.

What happened to you? What happened to us?
10:14 pm edt 

Town Hall Colors

I agree with the person who stated that simple white was the best color for town
hall.  The idea of always going to what was originally done is just plain crazy
(especially in regards to color. After all, who knows if the person who picked
the original color was color blind, had terrible taste, picked the cheapest
color available or, was merely drunk.  Just because it was the original color
does not make it the best color.
Mia Payne-Diaz
10:11 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

Town Hall should be white.  Nice, clean, historic white.  Who needs a
building to be a replica of the Victorian Era when Shop Therapy and Spank the
Monkey are down the street?  Really.  And besides, do your homework.  The
original town hall, before the fire, was the Ryder House and it was white. 
Sorry.   Expensive architects want just that, expense.  Gullible fools.   Less
is more sometimes but apparently the royalty to be housed in this building
haven't learned this.
10:10 pm edt 

Re: Town Machinations

So even though I work 2 jobs and pay taxes I have to become a board
member now to make sure my taxdollars are being used honestly by the people
voted in that I should be trusting.  That's bullsnap.  All these "board" members
should be indighted to see what back door deals they have taken.  That would be
fitting.  Where's Jerry Springer or Maury when you need him?  Pathetic.   
10:09 pm edt 

A Reversal of Circustances

People seem to forget that Provincetown was once one of the wealthiest
towns in MA. Thankfully we are getting the rich buying back the town from those
who where destroying it.
10:07 pm edt 

Re: Bangs Street Development

A buildings sale price has nothing to do with the towns assessed tax
price.
10:06 pm edt 

Provincetown Development

Seems like the only time people get involved with an issue on this
blog is when something happens that will have an impact on their lives. Where
were they before, when the same problems were happening to someone else?
Catherine Russo is a good example of this. And she is not the only one.
10:05 pm edt 

Bangs Street Development
 
The taxes were probably paid directly to the boards that approved the
construction and fought the neighborhood tooth and nail to make everything seem
legal. There has to be some explaination.
10:03 pm edt 

Re: Town Machinations

Anyone who truly gives a crap about the future of this town need WAKE
UP.  People spit out "join a board, join a board" if you want to make a
difference.  Right.  Town boards, while not sat on by developers directly, are
clearly "owned" and the puppets of developers .  Joining a board that doesn't
want you will help?  Right.  There is no way that will change.  A few examples
of this have been blogged about recently.  Slap in the face conflicts of
interest, past decisions completely reversed magically, lower taxes when 4
buildings are built then when not.  Come on.  And why does this happen?  Money,
that's why.  Who in the last 10 years has made a substantial profit, i.e.
MILLIONS?  Developers, that's who.  and their legal counsel is not far behind. 
No one else.   All the meetings and bylaws and this and that mean nothing. 
MONEY talks.  Ptown is no longer the quaint little fishing village/artist colony
and will never be again.  Hypocrites.  Don't let a McDonalds i!
n but cater to worse, money hungry developers who shamelessly build and build
to take advantage of a weak town government and a lifestyle willing to cling to
a spot blessed with natural beauty that mainstream won't allow.  As Sade says,
"smooth operators".  And as I say, there's a sucker born every day.  Ptown - you
dissapoint and my father, mother, grandfather and grandmother would be
disgusted.  And, by the way, we didn't sell out,  Unlike the smart ones who knew
what this town was headed for when the first "Sleeze Ball"  was hosted at the
Ptown Inn many moons ago.  Well guess what, the sleezes are now dictating who
builds what and they don't even employ locals.  Talk about a slap in the face. 
Wow.
10:02 pm edt 

Re: Dog Biter

Speaking of which,
I just saw in the warrant that she wants to levy a tax on property sales of .5%
of the selling price to go to the general fund of the town, for the town to
spend at their leisure! The town can't control its spending so now, as they
drive people away from town due to the ever rising cost of living here, as they
leave, property owners have to take one more punch in the face as they leave.
Dog biter needs to adjust her     . She's so out there it hurts. It used to be
fun to watch her rant but now she's gone too far.
8:25 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

Town hall is now painted the colors that it was first painted when it
was built! And other towns on the cape are jealous of our town hall. I think the
founding fathers and mothers of this town would be proud of how we have saved
this beautiful building from years of neglect. Shame on the townies who for the
last fifty years or so were penny wise and pound foolish. I guess they are still
around by reading this blog. Imagine thinking that we could have saved this
building with volunteers and local contractors! LOL And as I recall no local
contractors or architects had the skills and smarts to get hired for this job.
8:23 pm edt 

Re: Russell Braun Potential Conflict of Interest

How do you find out if the job that Braun did at town hall for the
past 2 years, came out of the budget of the general contractor and he got paid
directly from them, so it did not show up on towns books?  Even if the
contractor paid Braun, the issue I see is they paid a town employee that was
already suppose to be protecting the town from work not done correctly.


If you have any proof of your allegation it would be a violation of state ethics
laws.  You would contact the state's attorney general office to report. 
However, if you have no proof, you are just merely speculating, the state would
not even bother with your allegations.
8:21 pm edt 

Potential Conflict of Interest

How do you find out if the job that Braun did at town hall for the
past 2 years, came out of the budget of the general contractor and he got paid
directly from them, so it did not show up on towns books?  Even if the
contractor paid Braun, the issue I see is they paid a town employee that was
already suppose to be protecting the town from work not done correctly.   If the
contractors are paying you, what will you let slide and what will you not?  
Just asking.
5:25 pm edt 

The Better Side of Provincetown

Talk about loyal companions! Those dogs stayed with their owner and
protected her as best they could. Some tell BR!

Good Samaritan=Bryan Green! Great story Bryan!
5:24 pm edt 

Re: Developers on Boards

And what if the "boards" don't require members?  This isn't whining,
it's expressing opinions, Mr./Ms. defensive. 
5:22 pm edt 

Re: Developers on Boards

Catherine Russo's comment:  "How can we change the
actions of the Planning, Zoning, and Historic boards to better reflect the will
of the Towns people and not the rich outsiders?"


It's not the rich outsiders it's the zoning bylaws that need to be changed.  As
another writer states:  make a difference by joining one of the boards.  Check
with the Town Clerk to see what boards require members; if you choose not to do
so then stop the whining.  Unless of course you like to here yourself complain. 
4:52 pm edt 

Non Property Owning BOS

Selectman are not required to own property and/or pay property taxes
in order to hold office as selectman.  Those selectman who do not own property
most likely rent property in town and part of their rent goes to pay property
taxes.
4:40 pm edt 

The Better Side of Provincetown

I JUST HAD THE MOST AMAZEING EXPERIENCE
I had just gone to the store to pick up some cigs and a bag of chips.

 So I thought I'd take a drive through the sea shore and as I was in the quarter
mile section looking at the foliage and I noticed two dogs on the side of the
road , I thought how weird to see them all the way out here. Then suddenly I
noticed a body on the ground. I got out of my car but the dogs were not going to
let me get close to her I had no cell with me.... so I went back to the car and
spread the chips out for the dogs so I could get to the woman...when I got there
she said she had been there for hours....suddenly a car came by with 2 ladies 1
stayed with me while the other went to the top of the hill and called 911 and
before you knew it 10 cars had stopped ...people were taking off their jackets
covering her up and directing traffic till the ambulance came. Showing proof
that people can come together....what an amazeing day

Bryan Green
4:33 pm edt 

Bangs Street Development

I'm confused.  If the new blgs. at the end of Bangs (of which there
are 4) are being sold for $579K a pop, why is the property only assessed at 400K
as a whole with taxes only being paid on this 400K?  These bldgs. were going up
in 2010?  Shouldn't there be an adjustment of some sort or is this another white
elephant, don't pay tax on the bldg. as long as no one is living in it?  Plenty
of empty house owners pay taxes, I do? Is this right?
4:30 pm edt 

Re: Dog Biter

Aha!--think trees was the tip off--got it!
4:29 pm edt 

Town Machinations

I love Provincetown it is a very interesting and humorous place to
live. It has a backdrop of a historical fishing town with social outcasts and
big money wannabes.  It is just like most towns, people take more time to
complain than if they just went out and just fixed the problem themselves and
saved their energy to be active in beneficial community projects.
With, outsourcing of our manufacturing and technical jobs we also outsourced our
common sense and educational standing.  Most people complain about town projects
and the projects get dragged on for years until they get outdated or costing the
community more tax dollars to complete. Common sense would be to do it the right
way to last, but I forgot there is no common sense in this town just greedy
agendas. That is why; I can sit back and be amused to see how bad people can
screw each other over. Remember UNITED WE STAND in screwing each other moreover;
town meeting is coming up. Do not make informed decisions and always postpone
projects now so they will even cost you more later on or you can move to another
area and demand more out of that governmental infrastructure and inflate those
taxes too.
4:27 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

"Some basic structural work was needed but that became the excuse to
high-ball and up all the changes made to town hall."


Last i knew the town's voters approved every piece of the town hall renovation. 
it's a moot point.

4:23 pm edt 

Out of Town Municipal Employees

"You Could Add Many Town Employees sticking " I Paid nothing towards
This Renovation" on their chests When They All Applaud the Opening of Town
Hall..."



And your point is. . .?  There is no requirement for most town employees to live
in town.  And your point is ?

4:21 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

The town of Sandwich just completed renovations on their historic town
hall building off of Route 130 in the historic center.  Simple white and
historic grey paint, simple wood finishes, very nice, very quaint while
maintaining it's size, local craftsmen and women did the work.  Simply millions
of dollars less expensive and quality construction.  No expensive out of town
architect's rendition of what a town hall should be.  Is the finished product
really worth all this money (7 million and counting)?  It sure doesn't seem so. 
Really, no one local had the talent to do this work?  Is this the town hall our
forefathers envisioned or is it a good venue for stage acts? I think it casts a
cheap looking shadow on what a historic town hall building should be just by the
colors alone.  Why didn't they just haul in some modulars and stick them
together if they wanted to save money and end up paying more in the end? 
Silliness abounds.        
4:19 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

You Could Add Many Town Employees sticking " I Paid nothing towards
This Renovation" on their chests When They All Applaud the Opening of Town Hall

Not only Michele Couture and Austin Knight but many heads of departments and
many town employees who, of course, will be sitting in the new, expensive town
hall offices. New furniture, new office equipment, new look.

Some basic structural work was needed but that became the excuse to high-ball
and up all the changes made to town hall.

I do like that idea of their wearing these tags at the Grand Celebration!Thanks.
That was a clever idea.
12:42 pm edt 

Re: Dog Biter

The dog biter is the same chrochety old know-it-all who said military
visitors were not welcome in Provincetown(she has a tendency to speak for
everyone)...if that doesn't help, think trees and town warrents
9:08 am edt 

Saturday, October 23, 2010

The Rich Run the Town?

I wish.
10:54 pm edt 

Re: Developers on Boards

Whether he recently resigned or not, this project was up for approvals
in 2008 and 2009 which is more than a "few" months ago. Was he or wasn't he a
member of the planning board when this project got approved?  Even if he was
"recused" or in the bathroom during approvals, are we to believe there was no
possibility he could influence his fellow board members on this one?  It sailed
through approvals somehow when a lesser one was denied.  Conflict of interest in
the purest form and unbelievable.

10:53 pm edt 

Re: Time to Support Local Talent

I'll support local talent when they show a little more professionalism.  Like
returning a phone call, like showing up when they say they will, like doing the
proper job, etc.  Until that happens I'll continue to look for 'professionals'
elsewhere.
8:43 pm edt 

Re: Couture & Knight

"Maybe Couture and Knight should have a sign on their chests during the
open house of town hall that reads": "I paid nothing towards this renovation."


How true how true how true the above statement is.

Who has the guts to speak up at town meeting when they both ask for our support
for the next projects?
8:41 pm edt 

Re: Developers on Boards

In last weeks episode of Development in Provincetown, Katharine Russo
posed a question right at the end. I will paraphrase. How can we change the
actions of the Planning, Zoning, and Historic boards to better reflect the the
will of the Towns people and not the rich outsiders?

I have a very simple answer.

Join a board and vote to that end.

A Rat In The Basement
8:39 pm edt 

Re: Developers on Boards

Jo DeMartino is no longer on the Planning Board. He resigned many
months ago pretty much due to the "PERCEIVED" conflict of interest.

A Rat In The Basement
8:37 pm edt 

I am Not Good at "Whodunits".

Who is the dog biter?
5:57 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

"Are You Really Putting Down and Demeaning Local Expertise on
Architects, Designers and Builders?"

If this is your position, you are drinking the Sharon Lynn-Michele Couture
Kool-Aid. How saw to deman the many talented people in town. We have much
expertise here and it should have been tapped and respected. We have some great
and expereinced builders and architects and deisngers and they could have done
excellent work. Time to support local talent instead of always bringing in
Boston Architexts who look back to Boston for the "best" wood working, the
"best" painting and the "best" interior work. It is not the best but it is the
most expensive.

Wrong thinking and wrong approach that leaves us all--not you Michele
Couture--you pay no taxes and you too Austin--but we all do --left with the
bucket of debts.

Maybe Couture and Knight should have a sign on their chests during the open
house of town hall that reads: "I paid nothing towards this renovation."
5:49 pm edt 

Unbelievable

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Mr. DiMartino of the Planning Board
the real estate broker for the Bangs St. condos?  The same planning board that
denied a smaller structure for a local man a few years ago for fear of
neighborhood damage?  This is unbelievable. 
5:23 pm edt 

Dog Biter

Yes, she has really turned into a crusty and mean-spirited old bird.
Leave the dogs alone and stop blaming them el cheapo. When are you going to hook
up to the town septic and stop leeching your crap into the harbor? Leave the
dogs alone!
5:20 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

I'll bet we are not done with town hall. I'm sure the BOS and town
manager will come back at town meeting with a laundry list of needs that have
not yet been asked for. The chairs in the auditorium are the tip of the iceberg.
11:27 am edt 

What's Going On?

Being a local and reading the paper, was wondering why people are
still renting rooms at 7 masonic place?   I was leaving Atlantic house at 1:05AM
and noticed 3 guys and 2 women going into 7 Masonic place.   I thought a notice
was suppose to be posted in the banner about a permit being applied for to rent
rooms there?   Maybe we should ask Austin what is going?
11:26 am edt 

Dog Biter

The same person that kicked a town employee's dog at 6race 6ouveia
posted that anti-dog posting. You know. The one who wants to ban dogs on the
beaches. 
11:24 am edt 

There is Plenty of Talent in Town

Town Hall could easily have been "renovated" with town talent. We have solid and
creative architects and good builders. But, then, the project would have only
cost $2 million instead of at least $7 million, if not $9 million. We did not
rebuild town hall, we renovated it. But then we selected McKinley Kaslow and the
rates were the highest. It was arrrogantly done, like the rich bringing in the
rich. But the problem is that the bill was tossed to us as town manager and
building commissioner reigned over this project. Braun picked up at least an
additional $60,000 for the first part of his "overseeing" and more for the other
phases. Now I bet Braun will get extra monies to "oversee" the library
work---with the same architects.

Good to live within your means and that goes for little towns, as well as
people.

11:23 am edt 

The Best of Times

I remember walking down Commercial St the day after Labor Day and
everything was closed. I remember busy Memorial Day weekends and being by myself
on the beach til the 4th of July. Weekends in July were good, but during the
week the restaurants were pretty empty. August was always good.  I think this is
the best summer I have ever seen.  This Sept and Oct also seem to be filled
daily with all kinds of activity.  The last couple of years town has been
hopping through the holidays.  Reservations for dinner are a must and there was
the best Holloween last year anyone has ever seen.  Am I wrong? Maybe I'm too
old to remember correctly. 
11:21 am edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

Are you kidding me Town Hall renovation done right ? Just wait and see !!!!!!
11:19 am edt 

Re: Being Realistic

I think many businesses could stay open further into the fall ,but I
think they are chomping at the bit to get the unemployment checks and start
planning ther winter trips.
9:08 am edt 

Re: Town hall Renovation

"We didn't need one of the most expensive architects to do this work.
We could have brought in more locals and fixed the basic problems."


Local expertise does not exist for this scale of massive project.  If you are
going to do a job, do it right.  No more band aids on buildings, it's what got
us into this mess.
9:06 am edt 

Snow Street

Had to drive down there this AM as truck was blocking Commercial.  Is that a
town road ?  It is in horrible shape - could barely get down there with the
shrubs. If it is a town road it should be fixed ASAP.
9:05 am edt 

Russell Braun Again?

What is your problem with benches by the dog fountain? You really seem
to hate dogs and dog owners as exemplified by your snide comments. The benches
had flaws and were returned to the company for replacement.
Thanks, Russell Braun for overseeing the project and having these benches
installed without inspection.  Can't wait to see what turns up in town hall once
people start looking past the forest and focus on the trees.
9:03 am edt 

Re: Should Real Estate Agents Sit on Boards

Real Estate agents should not sit on any Planning or Zoning or
Historical Board - they should not be on any Board where there is a potential
conflict of interest.
9:01 am edt 

Too Much of a Good Thing

Also glad that people are realizing that too many trees can make our
sunny seaside town feel like the dark black forest! Take a look at the over
grown trees in front of the fire station on Shank-Painter.
8:59 am edt 

Re: Duane Steele

I agree about the former newspaper editor/restaurant owner who thinks
he knows it all. How come they filmed what he thinks is right for the pier when
he couldn't even keep his own businesses afloat? And didn't the town get rid of
him for not being a good asst. harbor master? How hard could that job be?
8:57 am edt 

Re: Town Hall Renovation

This town doesn't have any top notch anything, especially any top
notch contractors! You get what you pay for around here and luckily for us we
got the best from out of town to do it right! I think the renovation at town
hall is the best thing we ever paid for and FOR ONCE EVERYTHING WAS DONE RIGHT.
8:54 am edt 

Friday, October 22, 2010

Re: Town Hall Renovation

The Town Could Have Hired Top Notch Town Architects and Town
Contractors for Town Hall

Not to put up band aids but to do a thorough job of renovating the building. But
it went into excessive "I wants" and "I need" and now we have this expensive
project that is much too costly. We could have spent two or three million and
hired local companies with guidance and we would have a better renovation and
more cost-effective work.

This town loses its sense of itself all too often and town hall at million and
millions is financially misguided.
11:20 pm edt 

A Sight to be Seen

Glad to see people finally cutting down over grown trees around town!
I now have my view back! Welcome the sunshine & views back to the town.
10:13 pm edt 

Re: Town Benches

What happened to the ugly new benches surrounding the dog water
fountain???
10:11 pm edt 

Re: Being Realistic

Most businesses that close for the off season could not care that you
will not patronize them. They are smart enough to realize that they don't need
you. The tourists will be back next year to fund them. The community here is not
large enough to make a financial difference. See you in the spring!
10:10 pm edt 

Town Hall Renovation

The people who think that we spent to much money on town hall and
think that we should have just used a local team, fix what needed to be fixed.
Surely must be joking! The whole reason town hall was in the shape it was in,
was because, for decades and decades we let local contractors put band-aids on
what needed to be fixed. As for the paint? We like it.
10:08 pm edt 

Should Real Estate Agents Sit on Town Regulatory Boards?

That is a simple question regarding glaring conflicts of interest. A perfect
example is David Nicolau, a broker for Sotheby's who sits on cases and decides
land use issues. He sells real estate for developers and private citizens. Is
this an inherent conflict? Should Joe DiMartino sit on the Planning Board whose
duty it is to amend and present zoning articles, approve subdivision etc, should
he be chosen by the BOS to sit on a regulatory board? What do you think? Are
both these gentlemen who volunteer their time be placed on Regulatory boards?

Why the hell is Duane Steele runnning any type of forum he has a track record of
TWO failed business' and can't even gas up a boat properly when he was an asst.
harbormaster. Please let him rant and rave with his darling wife Mary Jo another
piece of work.
10:07 pm edt 

Renovations Could Have Been Done in a Less Costly Fashion

We didn't need one of the most expensive architects to do this work. We could
have brought in more locals and fixed the basic problems. But no, this was spend
as spend can. I'd rather town hall remain white. It cost less to paint it one
color and would have cost less when the paint starts to chip. What is our final
cost? I think it's more than $7 million and now there's a fund to raise money to
replace the old seats in the main hall. Why wasn't this part of the $7 million?
Because they don't care about our needs but surely care about their comfort, new
desks, new furniture for them.

Add in the rental for the trailers that is at least $475,000. It goes on and on.


When I look at town hall, it symbolizes what we should not do in future town
"renovation" projects.
8:40 pm edt 

Re: Being Realistic

Some businesses close ASAP to flee to warmer climates, more money and
months of partying.

Other businesses stay here and ride it out with the locals. They take the bad
with the good because they care about the town. They support us and we support
them. It's called community.
8:38 pm edt 

What's Next, the High School?

I look at the town hall and my eyes roll.  I can't wait to see what
happens with the poor old High School in a couple of years.  Guaranteed wheels
are spinning already on this one, preliminary plans being visualized.  Prime
spot on the hill, great views, ample parking.  The only question is, instead of
developers bidding and then going through the motions of the same old boring
town board approval process that doesn't matter anyway because these developers
automaticly get approved for anything they want and make up their own rules, can
we just fix a price and have a good top 10 developer mud wrestling match,
greased pole competition (as in telephone pole off the wharf like in the good
old days of the Blessing of the Fleet festivities) or foot long hot dog eating
contest to decide which one gets it.  At least that way, the people of town can
have a quick laugh before they are brought to tears.
1:54 pm edt 

Re: Being Realistic

Some businesses lose money in the winter and stay open anyway.  That
is why they have earned my support as a year round customer.
12:35 pm edt 

Re: I Just Can't Celebrate The New Town Hall

I don't have the money to fix a cavity, but I'm not gonna let my teeth rot in
decay.   Same analogy goes for Town Hall.  Granted, it was a an expensive
renovation, however it was rotting and the only alternative was abandonment.  I
don't agree that was the best alternative.  Let's celebrate our successes.
12:33 pm edt 

Being Realistic

Here we go again.  Each year as businesses close for the season some
complain that they are "taking the money and running like so many fair weather
local businesses". 

When will people understand that there is just not enough demand for all
businesses to stay open during the off-season? 

Some businesses are not able to stay open in the off-season because the cost of
staying open is far greater than the revenues that are brought in.  Businesses
are not charities, they must make money in order to stay in business.  If there
was enough business in the off-season, then many businesses would stay open, but
that is just not the case.

Case in point: the Banner just ran an article that basically stated that the
main goal of the "Economic Development Council" (which was to try to develop a
year-round economy) is not attainable.  We are a seasonal economy and therefore
businesses must close in the off-season in order to survive.

10:10 am edt 

Developers and Selectmen

Not only should we get those people who work for developers off town
boards How about Board Of Selecmen NOT working on homes unless they sign some
sort of paper with town hall, that they have asked to make sure that the
building has ALL PERMITS if they are going to do any type of work there.   This
would be a no brainer.

Don't only look at bangs st.   Look at 95 Bradford, 7 Masonic Place.  The list
goes on and on.

Will this ever end?

I agree, it not only is ruining this town by greedy people. It is putting our
tourists at harms way.   "Shut down, not safe for human habitat"  

10:08 am edt 

I Just Can't Celebrate The New Town Hall

Does it look good? Yes. Does it stand proudly in the center of town? Yes. But we
just could not afford this white-oh-yellow elephant trimmed in the best colors-
building. that is why I can't celebrate this "renovation." We spent just too
much of the money we don't have. Couture can smirk as she generally
does--ex-photo low grade stars generally do- and Sharon Lynn will smile as well.
But--we never had the monies and we spent too much on "renovating" this
building.

I want a new Lexus. Some want a new Rolex. Some want to live in San Francisco
on the Russian hills. But if you don't have this kind of money, you don't go
there.

We didn't have the money for the extensive town hall "renovations" that were
done. We still don't.

10:03 am edt 

Yes, You Are Right

Enjoy the burgers at Blondie's. Everything in this town is overpriced. Perhaps
even the briberies.
10:01 am edt 

Re: Just Ask the Question
 
Isn't impersonating an officer illegal? Whether hired or not, the person doing
the policing is breaking the law, no?
10:00 am edt 

Bangs Street

Her friends still there say the dead rat, after voting, will petition
to jump the line and obtain an elusive "affordable" unit due to the upcoming
holidays, cold weather, lack of scraps at Blondies, employer and single parent
status.  A serious hosting of holiday cheer to celebrate will be in news to come
should the plan work,  and it usually does. Stay tuned.  BYOC (bring your own
cheese)   
   
9:58 am edt 

Thursday, October 21, 2010

Bangs Street

What happened to the dead rat?
8:58 pm edt 

Re: Just Ask the Question

It appears to me that the poster is trying to say that our Chief of Police hired
an uncertified officer and knowingly allowed him/her to make arrests and write
tickets. It also sounds like the BOS and TM know about it. If that's true then
the Town would be liable for these actions and subject to lawsuits...
multi-million dollar lawsuits for false arrests. It's pretty clear that's what
they're trying to say.  
7:12 pm edt 

Hey Rat!
  
You rise to a disturbingly eloquent plateau as usual.   Well said.

Your friend?  Decon
6:51 pm edt 

Re: Blondie's

I'm writing because I am a big fan of Blondie's Burgers. I am not a
personal friend of the owners, just a fan of the good food and friendly staff.
Yes, their prices may seem a bit high for burgers and fries but seriously - this
is Provincetown. Everything is overpriced from the restaurants to the hardware
stores. Anyone who pretends this is news or claims to be suffering from "sticker
shock" can't have lived here very long

And kudos to Blondie's for staying open through the fall to feed hungry townies
and visitors instead of taking the money and running like so many other fair
weather local businesses.

Thanks for being part of the community Blondie's!
6:49 pm edt 

Re: Just Ask the Question?

Those are all logical questions and answers but what do they relate to?
6:47 pm edt 

Re: Blogmaster's Back?

I say the web master has ever right to edit anything he wants to on
this blog. It belongs to him.  If he edits too much we just wont come here like
we don't go to Blondies.

A Rat In The Basement
5:33 pm edt 

BLONDIES

You don't even have to look in the window at Blondies to see they
added seating without permits. Just look outside at how they turned the planters
with benches into tables with seats!

I too find the place very expensive. So expensive that I wont even eat there
after hours.

My suggestion would be they drop the prices and then start doing simple take out
fast food breakfast. Nobody else is doing that in the neighborhood. And it would
be a great service to the locals.

A Rat In The Basement
5:29 pm edt 

Re: Who Can Really Make Sense Of the By-Law Articles?

Very good episode of PTV this week on development.  so true, abutters
concerns are ignored all too often. 
Get these people who work for developers off these boards or it will never end.
Did bangs st. teach us nothing?  It was a nice little dead end.  Now it is the
storage space for 4 monoliths.  This will be repeated over and over unless it is
stopped.  Demand an end to the ruining of this town by greedy people.  Haven't
they made enough.  They don't try to do it anywhere else because Ptown gov.
makes it so simple for them.
4:38 pm edt 

Just Ask the Question?

Question:  When is a police officer not a police officer?    
Answer:  When he doesn't have the proper certification.
Question:  What happens to the arrest's and citation's by a police officer who
doesn't have the proper certification?
Answer:  Ask the police Chief.
Question:  What legal action can be taken against the town for hiring a police
officer without the proper certification?
Answer:  Ask the BOS and the TM.
4:34 pm edt 

Re: What Are You Talking About?

Honestly, who cares if Mary Jo blogs non-stop, although I don't
believe she is.  Nor do I believe in one blogger's highly tuned detective
skills.  Nonetheless, at least MJ knows something about the town having been
born and brought up here, seeing the changes, good and bad, firsthand.  The
purpose is to get ideas, info and opinions across.  No one is forcing agreement
or acceptance or claiming what's blogged to be scripture. Blogs are forums of
expression.  I could care less if MJ or DS blog til their fingers are raw and
their teeth are rattling.  If they have something to say, let's hear it.  We are
all big boys and girls.  Now go play nice and stop pulling each other's hair. 

an EEG member (brain waves and east end gang)
4:29 pm edt 

Blogmaster's Back?

The blogmaster is not neutral in his postings is my point.  To editorialize and
insert his  own opinion is fine and I also have
no use for the affordable housing.  The point is he should NOT be correcting
others'posts.  A statement of his own is not a problem.  The correcting is.  I
notice that he removes names and other things that I cannot always figure out. 
He also deletes entire posts.  This make what is read here censored, and
censored by his whims only. So get off my back and get the point.
11:48 am edt 

Who Can Really Make Sense Of the By-Law Articles?

Who worked on these? I know it was not the Planning Board. Why so many changes
in the by-laws? Did this come from citizens who are concerned about growth---or
from developers who want to add to the growth and icnrease buildings and
projects?

Does anyone know? Something seems odd in so many more changes. What's going on?
11:14 am edt 

A Hunch on Who's Posting is Not the Truth on Who's Posting

I don't believe that someone knows when someone else is posting. I doubt the
person who knows for sure that Duane is posting because they are like literary
critics and can spot prose and literary styles. Then you post "knowing" this
hunch is true. You have no idea.
11:13 am edt 

BLONDIES

Speaking of Blondies, when did they get the economic development permits or
water flow capability to have all those "stools" inside the fast food store. I
believe Wired Puppy had to wait YEARS and others had to go to ZBA approval to go
from 15 to 30 etc. Every restaurant and Fast food establishment must have proper
flow capacity in order to have a stool or a seat. Everyone should be treated the
same again selective enforcement. All the Health Agent or Commissioner has to do
is drive by and LOOK in the WINDOW!!! Jane, David and or Sharon or even Michelle
who goes to Seaman's bank every day can glance over his or her shoulder and LOOK
in the WINDOW!!
10:45 am edt 

An Unsightly Observation

Got the red light at the intersection of rte 6 and conwell
street. we counted 16 signs,all sizes and shapes and
heights directing and informing motorists of this and that.
i was wondering who,s responsible for the mess and does
the town have guide lines they follow ?
10:00 am edt 

For the Record:

Although I can't speak for my husband, anything I have
to say will have my name signed at the bottom, as has always been my practice. I
may read the blog, but I have not been posting.

Mary-Jo Avellar
9:56 am edt 

Stop the Madness!

It is time to repeal the so-called affordable housing law known as
Chatper 40B.  Too much development.  Stop the madness!
9:54 am edt 

Re: Give Us a Break

I can't say if Mary Jo is blogging or not but I have worked with Duane
and can spot his prose, tone and word selection froma mile away.  He blogs
constantly!  What else does he have to do?
9:53 am edt 

Hey Sticker Shocked!

Did you ask to see what "Blondies" pays for rent to be on Commercail Street? It
all "trickles down".

Why do you think Blue Light left?
8:16 am edt 

Re: Posting Correction

What on earth are you talking about, the other way around?  There is
only a right way and a wrong way.  Developers have milked Ptown long enough
under the Halloween costume of "affordable housing" they wear all year long. 
It's time to put a stop to it.  Anyone who thinks otherwise is either a
developer or connected somehow to one.  Plain and simple.  Get off the
blogmasters' back or else start your own blog to weave your insinuations and
sneaky little personal jabs.  Who do you work for?  Not the best interest of
Ptown that's for sure.  
8:14 am edt 

Posting Corrections

Watch theWebmaster jump in correct voting statements.  Any reason why?
Hmmmmmmmmm Just wondering if it were the other way around.
7:46 am edt 

It's Duane Not Dwayne

"I don't see postings here by Mary Jo or Dwayne...."


Please note that Mary Jo's man is named "Duane" and not DWAYNE. If' you're going
to be intent in your statements, at least get the name spelling correct.

12:28 am edt 

Give Us a Break:

Dwayne Steele and Mary Jo Avellars are fine upstanding members of our community
and you bad mouth them because you are jealous of their success.  I am proud to
know them and respect their character. They have done more for this town then
you ever will.
12:27 am edt 

Chapter 40B
 
I recall we have a by-law in town that anyone developing/converting dwellings
over 5 units that 33% have to be affordable.  With 40B housing, doesn't the
developer have to only set aside 25% for affordable?  So why would anyone in
Provincetown vote in favor of development that can bypass certain zoning
regulations when we already have a by-law that will give us more housing with
less density/destruction?

I'm voting No [Yes].

Webmaster Comment: Ballot Question 2 is for the repeal of the Comprehensive Permit for Low-or Moderate-Income Housing, better known as Chapter 40B. In order to eliminate Chapter 40B a YES vote is required.
12:25 am edt 

Developer vs. Builder

If someone has the financial means or backing then just about anyone can
probably be a developer but it does not mean the developer can also be a
builder.  I've been in the building trade for many years as a builder and follow
architects plans but it does not mean I can be an architect. The same holds true
for engineers and architects - they can draft plans but it does not necessarily
mean they can go out and build what they draft.  Think about it. Gee, how about
that, I can spell too!
12:06 am edt 

Articles For Town Meeting

Maybe we should it call Zoning By-Law Meeting. Seems the real reason to have
town meeting this November. Whose interest are we really voting on? I don't
think we needed this meeting. We could have waited until April But obviously
some could not wait. Who could that be? You get three guesses.
12:01 am edt 

Wednesday, October 20, 2010

Vote "Yes" to Repeal 40B

"40 B Has Been Problematic: Loss of Local Control and Mega Developments
Under the Guise of "affordable" housing"


I agree. I am voting NO [Yes] on 40B and look forward to its demise. The intentions
were good but the procedures stole local control especially in global permitting
process.
11:55 pm edt 

Re: Sticker Shocked

Since when is crappy expensive food a surprise?  On another note,
lunch at Fanizzi's last week was great.  Great food, view, service.  Kudos to a
great East End establishment.  Speaking of East End.  Perhaps the rat saw the
price of one of the new prefabs?
11:48 pm edt 

What Are You Talking About?

I see no hint of MJA or DS on this blog but it is the season for
bewitching.  Maybe that explains the dead rat on Bangs St.  A message, perhaps,
maybe.  Not a horse head admittedly, but distasteful none the same.  The poor
little grey hairy sap was probably headed for town trailer with an envelope when
he/she got jumped.  The West End Mafia are toddlers compared to the East End
Gang.  The EEG can decipher "annual town reports" a/k/a pacifiers.  The WEM
still thinks the town manager runs the town so they waste time on defending her
and her minions.  Can I get a witness? Peace out!
11:46 pm edt 

Sticker Shocked!

I decided to patronize a local business today that I had not tried
before. I remember Blue Light was such a great place to grab a sandwich, a cup
of soup or a great salad. I went into Blondie's, the establishment that took
Blue Lights place and ordered some of their proclaimed "homemade chili". For
$6.95, that's right folks nearly $7.00 I got a cup of chili, no larger than a
standard cup of coffee. It's off-season. I thought it would be nice to help out
one of the local businesses. As I was standing there astonished at the price, I
looked at the cost of a cheeseburger, a frap, etc. I won't bother trying
something new again that's for sure. Sticker shocked in the cold.
4:42 pm edt 

Someone is Smoking Somthing

I don't see postings here by Mary Jo or Dwayne. I don't know what someone else
is thinking but I believe it is some paranoid chair believing it is them.
Strange how some can read the authors of anonymous postings but can't believe
there are any secret funds. I don't think we know who is posting.
4:40 pm edt 

Re: 40B Housing

Vote no developers of 40 B housing
Enough with giving developers tax payer money. Enough with them developing
without regard to density or apartment size.

The developers will make money no matter what. They can sell to the poor and
create housing developments and when they don't sell--they can sell them on the
open market to any speculator.

vote no on the overdevelopment of Provincetown.
4:36 pm edt 

On a Positive Note...

It is a beautiful sunny, fall morning in Provincetown. The town still seems to
be very busy and most businesses seem to be enjoying the extended business
season. I walked through whaler's wharf yesterday and the building is full of
stores which it wasn't a year ago. Many of those stores are new this year.
Commercial Street doesn't seem to have many vacancies either and last year empty
storefronts popped up here and there everywhere. Town Hall is almost finished
and will be the grande dame of Commercial Street. It's a good time to be in
Provincetown, it's a good time to be alive. We live in a beautiful place. Let's
celebrate it and life itself today.
10:15 am edt 

Re: Bangs Street Dead Rat

Thank goodness it wasn't you on Bang Street, Rat.  I hear            
is going to start a Facebook Campaign to wipe out the grafitti and take down the
West End Mafia. LOL
10:13 am edt 

Beautiful Fall Tuesday

Fair number of off season tourists (bus people) but parking lots unfilled and PLENTY of legal off street parking available---but going to Seashore Point for my "weekly" at 11:30 am and of
course had to drive around an illegally parked cab and red car on Alden Street.

10:11 am edt 

Dear Webmaster

When will you stop abetting Dwayne Steele and Mary Jo Avellars personal
vendettas and campaign to destroy so many lives to make up for their own sad
failures? Perhaps when you stop drinking with them and sucking up their lies. It
is a shame you use what could be a valuable forum to continue give them a venue
for their anonymous bile. You and you wife are nearly as sad as they.

This is for publication but you won't publish it.
10:09 am edt 

Animal Welfare Committee

What an impressive agenda the Animal Welfare Committee has.
Thank you for bringing to this site's attention the important work they do to
advance the welfare of animals both locally and beyond:Provincetown-based pet
emergency shelter, grants, pet oxygen masks (read the City of Boston now has
them on all their fire trucks), two upcoming articles and discussion of a State
animal welfare bill.

Very, very impressive!
10:07 am edt 

Talk About Secrets-Russell Braun

Braun is paid by the developer for being Clerk of the Works on both
phases...direct to Braun...no reason for anyone to even know. The guy is getting
two paychecks for one poorly performed job...how nice is that!
Just think, when he finishes at town hall he will move on to the library
project,,,wonder why these lucrative Clerk of the Works jobs are never open to
the public. Talk about Secrets...that's one!
10:06 am edt 

Tuesday, October 19, 2010

RITB (Rat In The Basement)

No worries and no offense.  We are simply not ready to loose your insightful
input.

Decon

8:34 pm edt 

Open Meeting Law

Last week's Banner had a little blerb by Pru Sowers that there would be a
"Meeting set to ponder Shank Painter traffic" .."will be held next Wednesday,
Oct 20, at a location to be announced."-author PS (as in Pru Sowers)
So I went on the Town website tonight to find the time and place of meeting. No
such meeting is posted.

But I did notice that the Animal Welfare Committee is posted for meetings EVERY
DAY between October 21, 2010 and January 1, 2011. All meetings carry the exact
same agenda, signed by Candace Nagle, as chair.

What is up with that? Is she covering her butt from now until forever in case
there is by chance a quorum at the dog park?
But what about the traffic study, must be in David Gardeners realm as Town
Planner?

No post vs. over post? Which is worse?
8:10 pm edt 

Re: Bangs Street-Dead Rat

Before any of you guys start any rumors, it wasn't me on Bangs St.

A Rat In The Basement
7:25 pm edt 

Re: Municipal Finance

 Dictionary entry details

EXPENDED (adjective)

Sense 1 expended [BACK TO TOP]

Meaning:

Having all been spent

Synonyms:

expended; spent; gone

Context example:

the money is all expended; spent; gone

So this means the defender of truths is actually part of the problem.  Seems
according to logic, the amount "expended" is NOT the difference between what was
spent and what wasn't.  It IS the amount that was spent.  Or did the library
staff donate some money so they'd end up with a surplus? 
You learn to read financial reports your own self. 
2009 FY amount expended, expended amount = AMOUNT SPENT
Dah, nice try...and your "hateful" remarks are so typical of someone trying to
make sense when they have been suckered in also.   Bogus
7:24 pm edt 

Re: Bangs Street

Graffitti on Bang Street  Art?  Quick call Liz Carney
6:05 pm edt 

Re: Bangs Street

Maybe the rat had an allergic reaction to "modular" construction. 
6:03 pm edt 

Re: Name Calling

If Selectman Couture is a 'frog,' then you are a toad!
Grow up! Nothing you say can be taken seriously when you reduce yourself to such
sophmoric behavior.
3:51 pm edt 

Re: Bangs Street

All of a sudden graffiti spray and dead rats are a big deal. Forget
about Bangs St. Maybe the "west-end mafia" had nothing better to do.
3:50 pm edt 

Re: Municipal Finances

Hey Leagle Beagle attacker - then by your theory, this must follow. 
They allotted in the budget more for Librarian salaries ($225,000) than legal
services ($200,000).  Your argument makes no sense when you compare the facts
(numbers).  It doesn't matter how smart or dumb you are, if it doesn't jive, it
doesn't jive.  Explain the numbers please:

Librarians spent $229,618 then according to your theory.    No available budget
left for legal services and $1.00 left for librarians and the numbers don't
match.  Please enlighten me oh smart one. because I'm not buying it and neither
should anyone else.   Gee, amount expended usually means amount "spent", that is
everywhere else I guess.  Nice try but you seem very wrong.  These numbers make
no sense and neither do you.

ex·pend (k-spnd)
tr.v. ex·pend·ed, ex·pend·ing, ex·pends
1. To lay out; spend: expending tax revenues on government operations. See
Synonyms at spend.
2. To use up; consume


Legal Services:
Original Approp.:  $200,000
Transfer Adjustments: $200,000
Revised Budget:   $171,551
FY 2009 Expended:  $28,449.00
Available Budget:  blank

Library Salaries:
Original Approp.: $225,349
Transfer Adjustments:  $4,269
Revised Budget:  $229,618
FYExpended:      $229,617
Available Budget:  $1

Just the facts, please.  Get a calculator to figure the obvious.
3:42 pm edt 

Re: Municipal Finance Reports

But I do know that finances are not what the Finance
Commitee sees nor all what the town "Treasurer" knows.


And I know you are wrong.
9:46 am edt 

Oh, Boy, I Hear it Now: All is Well and theTown is Pure
 
Where are you? This is beyond the beyond. What a sad joke on the town. Do you really believe all you hear from Sharon Lynn, Michelle the Frog Pond Coutre and the West End mafia and all is well? so sad. so uninformed. This is the way this interesting town is going.
9:45 am edt 

Bangs Street -- Not About the Condos

What in the world is going on on Bangs St? First, there is huge graffiti spray painted in the road. It seems to coincide with an event a week or so ago at PAAM. Are they allowed to vandalize our streets and call it art?! And there was a HUGE DEAD RAT on the corner of Bangs and Bradford for days!
Clean up our streets!
9:43 am edt 

Re: Municipal Finance Reports

"Do you really think that all is well and true in figures at town hall trailers? Some one of us are not that naive."


Oooooooh, careful everyone is out to get you.  Everyone is telling you lies.  only you know the truth. oooooooh it must be scary in your little world.
9:42 am edt 

Dear Legal Beagle
 
Get your facts straight.  I'm looking at the 2009 Annual Town Report which is the document you quote for your inane legal and librarian figures.  You should learn how to read a financial report before you go spewing asinine accusations at town employees and volunteers.

The $28,449 figure you claim to be what was inappropriately spent on legal services because of all the slush funds and finagling of money is actually the difference between what was appropriated at annual town meeting in the spring of 2009 and the amount that was actually spent on legal services.  In other words the town underspent the budgeted $200,000 by $28,449.  The actual cost of legal services for the fiscal year 2009 which was approved by the town's auditors and certified by the state DOR was $171,551.

All of the accounts that were underspent gave the town a total of over $1.2 million in free cash.  This actually proves that the town manager is doing a phenomenal job of keeping all departments in line.

And BTW, no one in town hall is allowed to just willy nilly call town council.  All calls to council either go through Sharon or David Gardner when she is not available.  Boards and committees also must get permission to call or seek legal council on any issues.

i know this information won't appease you because some people just can't learn and your vendetta supersedes any common sense you might have left in your vengeful, hate-filled life.
9:40 am edt 

Re: Town Report

First they said if you question amounts paid out, call your town accountant, nothing secret.  Then they said read the town report, nothing secret.  Then the town report was read and it jumped out that one figure is soooo low it's questionable on every level.  What's up, is the town report wrong or are we to believe it?
9:39 am edt 

Monday, October 18, 2010

Sorry, But You Must Be a Friend of Jack Abramoff!

I remember when he had 200 visits to the White House in only a few months.
Seemed then that these meetings--secret in conversation--and deal making were
problematic or at least qustionable. There were no documents on what was said
but you knew--if you had any cirtical skills--that something untoward was
happening.

Now turn to town hall. You know that there are deals within deals and that Braun
was paid from unnamed funds, and so why? Do you really think that all is well
and true in figures at town hall trailers? Some one of us are not that naive.
Why these secret dealings are happenings, I can't answer. Maybe Sharon is too
weak and needs these others to support her decisions. I leave the psychological
answers to someone else. But I do know that finances are not what the Finance
Commitee sees nor all what the town "treasurer" knows.

Things are not what they seem to be even if Finance Committe members will take
offense. Sorry, my friends, but you too are naive. What is printed on recycled
paper is far from the truth. But you can gain some solace from believing that it
is true and accurate. And many went to the gas chambers believing they were
going on another work detail. There is a price to be paid for believing in lies
and fabrications!
4:44 pm edt 

Re: Town Counsel Finances

Let's start at the beginning

How much of a retainer does the town give to Town Council ?
How many times have I heard at BOS meetings, refer to
council? Too many. How many times have I heard other
boards do the same?
Just look at the last Town Report, there are many issuses
pending, not to mention the ones not published yet.
How many excetive meetings does the BOS have?
Alot more now than in the past. Why?
Call Town Council, they will guide them.
How unfortunate that we have people running the town that
need to call a lawyer every time.
So don't tell me that Knopleman etc. is getting only $30K.
That's a week's work for this town.

Legal Beagle
3:19 pm edt 

Municipal Finances

Hey neighbor lover -  you are still not explaining the "facts" as
reported in the annual town report 2009 regarding amounts paid to librarians and
legal services.  No insinuations, just what we as taxpayers are being fed. 
Hidden, secret, whatever, these figures seem GROSSLY ridiculous.  Stop throwing
bad chi and simply explain please if all is so lily white. 
3:14 pm edt 

Town Finances

How sad that a blogger on here actually thinks that he/she will get
facts and answers to questions about town finances on here. This is not the
place for that. Anybody can give you lies, and anything else they want you to
believe on here. If you think the town is doing something illegal, go talk to a
lawyer and sue for information.
3:13 pm edt 

Municipal Finance:

There are no closed books in municipal finance. Notions that things are being
hidden are false. The Commonwealth has rules and regulations that are strickly
enforced and there are penalties for failing to do so. Grants can be revoked and
fines levied if the rules are not followed. If you have proof that this is not
being done you should report it to the Attorney Generals Office.  Spreading
inuendo without fact drags down the community.  Put downs hurt the giver and the
receiver.  "Love your neighbor as yourself" 
12:52 pm edt 

Re: Billable Time-Still no Explanation

Still not seeing any explanation of the figures presented to those
asking for facts regarding legal expenses and what is reported to us taxpayers. 
No offense to librarians, but since when does a staff of them make more than a
law firm representing a small town with more than it's share of legal problems,
solicited constantly for legal advice on everything with 13 pending litigations
and god knows how many hours put in plus travel time and expenses.  Don't buy
it, sorry, just the facts.  You asked and defended, so now explain please.
12:48 pm edt 

Town Hall Phase I
 
What ABout Phase I of Town hall: Who was Clerk of Works and How did
That Person Get Paid?

Look at Phase I and see what shenanigans were involved there. Look at the amount
of Monies involved in Phase I. How was that person "compensated"? How was Braun
Paid for Phase I? Don't think you'll find a vote on that phase, my dear!
12:45 pm edt 

We All Are Aware of Billable Time: And this Town is Like an Addict on Billable Time

I was shocked to hear form someone that legal bills were at a record low. What!
I thought to myself, this is nonsense. Everyone in the town trailers use town
counsel like a dog loers loves hir or her vet. They are on daily conversation
and that talk is expensive because it is: yes, billable. To even pretned that
this group, Lynn, Coture and the others, as well as every town department, spent
less than in the past is just plain ludicrous. They are addicted to town counsel
and  call them like some called "Dear Abbey." No prolem is too small to call; no
issue is an issue that should not be overviewed by town counsel. So, what a joke
an all of us, to beieve and worse,state, that they are using town counsel less
than in previous administrations. What are they on? And if we believe this, what
are we on?
9:38 am edt 

Sunday, October 17, 2010

7 Masonic Place

Defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty

I wonder what charges Eliot Peter Denault will face with the Massachusetts
Department of Revenue (DOR)  when they realize he failed to file room sales tax
for renting out rooms in an unlicensed guest house for years?   

                                                     
                                                     
                                                    
                                                            
8:30 pm edt 

"Paradise" For Some

I'm glad some people are living in "Paradise" however, some of us
"naysayers" have problems and issues with the way this town is run. The whole
notion that people who don't feel like Provincetown is a perfect place should
leave is beyond arrogant and immature. People blog about their concerns because
they want this town to be a better place. Just because you have no problems
doesn't mean everyone else is so well off.
6:16 pm edt 

Re: Secret Funds

Geez, Loueez, I was quoting your 2009 Annual Town Report aka the bible of truth:
Didn't know library salaries were so lucrative.  Over $200,000.00 expended at a
little higher than min. wage per hour, wow that's alot of hours and the poor
little town counsel made less than $30,000.00 for all that litigation.

Seems backwards but, hey, maybe it's the meds.

"Legal Services Expense:
$200,000 200,000 171,551 (expended 2009 $28,449)
Library Salaries:
$225,349 4,269 229,618 (expended 2009 $229,617)"

Right. Please explain.
6:09 pm edt 

Beware of the CCNS!

About 20 years ago they pleaded to the town to
give them more water (I never fully understood that). They said they would
construct a walkway along Moors road. We gave then the water and they dumped
about 15 cubic feet of  pine bark mulch in the sand beside the road. People that
used it were up to their ankles in the mulch and it just mixed with the sand and
vanished. Great walkway for fools.
12:34 pm edt 

Re: Fund Transfers

"She is doing it and you will not find a trace of the behind
the scenes deals and transfers. Not a trace, my dear. She has manipulated town
funds as much as Bergman did."


As you feel your sick need to continue your rants with no basis in fact let me
just say this - you are a liar.  Your rants are not based on facts and I think
most people see you for what you are.  A twisted individual who spews venom not
based on facts.  I would not normally call someone a liar, but when you continue
to spew your venom with a lack of facts. . .if the shoe fits. . .

12:17 pm edt 

Weather

It is gorgeous outside! who can we blame?  Oh wait that's a seldom heard
positive thing.  How are all of the  naysayers and put downers going to handle
this. They will probably go into withdrawal.   This should be renamed the glass
half empty blog. We are living in paradise people get over youselves and enjoy.
To the best of my knowledge there are no laws requiring you to live here. If you
are as upset about things, as this blog indicates, you are free to leave.
10:02 am edt 

New Buildings?

Since when are there new building and facilities being built in Truro regarding
water? The story in the Banner regarding the wellfield describes this. I'm a
Truro resident and I am very bothered by the idea that Provincetown is going to
come into a residential neighborhood and build these structures with little or
no oversight!! This is a slap in the face of Provincetowns only neighbor!! When
were all of these plans going to be revealed to the public in Truro? More
explaination please!!!
10:01 am edt 

Fund Transfers

Re: You Admit that Bergman Played with the Finances and That is Why His
Financial Person Quit After He left

And why did Ms. Heilala leave town? How many cover ups could she continue to
handle? How many tranfers of funds from one to another, some clandestine, could
she do? She too left and now doesn't have to play these town financial games.
10:00 am edt 

Another Loss of Federal Monies

The town seems to believe that Washington will "bestow" its gifts on this town.
Not surprised to see that the federal funds will not be coming to the town. Glad
they didn't purchase Fisherman's Wharf. We'd have a $10 million white elephant
and no one to pick up the tab except the taxpayers, as always. Why do they think
they will be granted these government funds? Too many of the BOS live in a land
of fantasy. They are too often out of touch.
9:57 am edt 

Please-If Keith Bergman Could Do it, So Can Sharon Lynn

Do you really think she is aobve using secret funds to cover problems? Please.
You agree Bergman did do this and why would Ms. Lynn not do this? Ethically
pure? Please, again. She is doing it and you will not find a trace of the behind
the scenes deals and transfers. Not a trace, my dear. She has manipulated town
funds as much as Bergman did. And Braun is part of her secret financial deal
playing. If you could peek into his bank account, then and only then, would you
get any sense of what has been going on. But you won't and can't. But the monies
are there.
9:56 am edt 

Scandal, Slush Fund - Read All About It

Recently the gentle, intelligent readers of this forum have been barraged by yet
another series of screeds alleging, once again, slush funds, back room deals,
secret accounts, etc. Our paranoid poster this time has turned his sight once
again on Russell Braun and Sharon Lynn for whom he seems to have a major
obsession on both counts. As I noted previously the point of his or her (or both
of them) posting is to create the impression through repeated lies that the town
is a shambles and only a brave hero who can see through all this thick cloud of
cheating and lying can save us. Our little Jimmy Olsen reporter no longer has a
printing press to wreak his mayhem so he inflicts it on us through here. 

Anyone who says objects is branded as naive or part of the conspiracy. The
latest line of crap goes like this "there are secret slush funds controlled by
secret powers, namely Ms. Lynn who is an agent of the lesboconspiracy to
overtake the town and give everything to Ted Malone and other "powers behind the
throne." The current evidence of this is the purported secret plan to pay Mr.
Braun to be clerk of the works for the town hall project unapproved by anyone
and paid out of funds so secret that no accountant, state official, town
official, town board even knows about them.

Well, guess what? Once again the emperor has no clothes and, as if most of us
did not know it already, our little Jimmy Olsen has been drinking too much and
his allegations have not one shred or iota of truth behind them. Here are the
facts:
- mr brains position was a required position in any major capital project by
town government funded by the state
- the position was advertised per state law, see secretary of state archives
- the fund used to pay the position came from the budget of the voter approved
budget for the town hall restoration, as budgeted, no secret slush fund
- on august 24, 2009 the Board of Selectmen approved Russell Braun as project
manager per the following motion;

'6B       TOWN HALL REHABILITATION              Phase II / Owner's Project
Manager                   

We have consulted with Town Counsel and the Town may appoint an employee in this
position with a signed MOU agreement.   

MOTION:  Move that the Board of Selectmen vote appoint Russ Braun as the Owner's
Project Manager on the Town Hall project.     Motion by:  Michele Couture      
  Seconded by: Mary-Jo Avellar           Yea  5    Nay  0'

- this meeting was publicly noticed

So, once again, the lies and distortions are not from the town or its employees
but rather from a sad soul who constantly, repeatedly and fallaciously inflicts
his or her warped, demented and viscious lies on us in an attempt to degrade the
work of town employees and to position he and his Ilk as the only ones who
really know what is going on. These posters are immune to facts and reason and
they are despicable. They use their sniveling anonymity to tear into the
community and individuals for their own sick ends. If some see my condemnation
as too harsh then too bad, nothing could be more harsh than trying to destroy
individuals and our town to get revenge for perceived past wrongs and using
repetitious lies to do it. This is verbal arson and is as damaging as burning
down a building.

Many thanks to the person who cares enough about the truth to look up the real
facts in this matter and pass them along, (btw, not a town employee). It is
great to know that there are many posters who care about the truth and our
town's future and willing to take the time to refute the lies.
 
- not a town employee nor sleeping with one 
9:54 am edt 

Re: Secret Funds

Let me ask the question again about those secret funds.  Who all is in
on it?  The BOS, Town Manager, FinCom, old town acountant, new town accountant,
auditors, Mass Dept of Revenue who came in an did a review of the town?
9:50 am edt 

Re: Secret Funds

"Again, then explain why the Librarian's share was more than Town
Counsel's in 2009, with numerous litigations, meetings, phone calls, etc."



Huh?  Geez, not even sure what you are rambling on about on that one.  Have you
been taking your meds?
9:49 am edt 

Water Woes

I see in the paper the town didn't get the money for the wellfield and now will
be shifting other grants (Bergman style) to pay for the wellfield while the
water updates elsewhere that the grant money was supposed to be used for will be
put off. What a mess! And to add insult to injury, the report in the Banner was
inaccurate. It claims the new wellfield will be able to supply double what is
currently supplied to the town by it's only wellfield in Truro on South Hollow
Road.
WRONG.
Provincetown now pumps from three sites in Truro, South Hollow Road, Knowles
Heights and the old Air Force base. The new wellfield is required by the state
for a redundant source meaning an equal amount of water from a seperate source
if any of the other wellfields fail or become polluted. It doesn't mean the town
will now have twice as much water. It just is going to be up to state regs.
Jeesh, you'd think at  least the paper would get it right by now!
9:45 am edt 

Re: House on the Corner of Pleasant and Bradford Opposite Tips for Tops'n

More important, why were they not granted permission to keep the "jail house" (4
vertical divided lights over one) windows? I loved those windows. Owners wanted
to replace with exact replicas but historic said: "No, No, No."

I suspect these windows were not original, but were installed in the 1930's or
1940's. But they were cool. 
9:43 am edt 

Re: Herring Cove Bathhouse

Just from reading the article in the Banner (10/14/10) I can only conclude that
the CCNS is up to their old tricks. First paragraph states the bathhouse "has
been declared structurally unsound."  Who made that determination? And forgive
the pun but the place is built like a brick s--t house. There is no roof over
most of the building and the walls are about 2-3 feet thick.

The article states the building was built 60 years ago. I do not know is this
old enough to trigger our demolition delay by-law?

Most important, it seems clear that the CCNS is intent on eliminating the north
parking lot, the one we all drive to on nice days in the winter to watch the sun
over the ocean from our cars when it is 20 degrees out.

Let's unleash Mary-Jo. I'm sure she's got a few more good fights in her.


9:41 am edt 

Re: Financial Misbehavin

Gee, please let me get this straight.  Thanks everlasting that Mr.
Braun and some older guy are $75,000K cheaper than an "outside" expensive
architect.  Wouldn't want someone from the outside to be dealing with important
matters like this.  and yet, this directly contradicts the bold declarations of
innocence and theory that  "outside" legal counsel fits magically right in the
budget because only someone on the "outside" can deal with the complexity of
town problems "without a conflict of interest, like this has ever mattered?".  A
bonus, they are really cheap to boot according to "town report".  Did we use
coupons?  Good gravy.   With all this legal help you'd think we'd be in better
shape yet how much better off are we now legally than 10 years ago?  Still
buying water?  Sweet.
9:40 am edt 

Saturday, October 16, 2010

Re: Secret Funds

Again, then explain why the Librarian's share was more than Town
Counsel's in 2009, with numerous litigations, meetings, phone calls, etc.  I
think we all know a meeting in town constitutes 4 hours travel and time = at
least $1,500.00 a pop.  Doesn't add up. Simply explain or stop trying to
stifle...and learn some gramma and spellin" skills 2
4:25 pm edt 

Re: Secret Funds

Most of us, or some of us, hoped that would stop when Bergman left.
But why would it? Power is used to do what
those in key positions want to do, regardless of the law and transparency.
Should we be surprised if it is happening here and now?


Do you have specific examples of a current misuse of funds, secret accounts, etc
or are you just paranoid?  Because I can guarantee you they do not exist.  They
most likely did with Mr. Bergman, but like her or not, our current town manager
Ms. Lynn is a person of high integrity.  You may not like the job she is doing,
she may not do what you think she should, she may not terminate an employee you
think she should, but her ethical standards are as high as I've seen.

4:11 pm edt 

"Contact Us"

Webmaster Comment: Private remarks to Shout Out should be made via the "Contact Us" page, which exists for that purpose.
1:55 pm edt 

Financial Misbehavin

So tired of this person's rant about slush funds and hidden money accounts. 
Give it a rest.  They do not and can not exist.  Don't you think the auditor or
at least the DOR would have found at least some questionable funds being
transferred about?

Bergman did play with accounts which is why the finance director under his
regime quit right after he did.  He also kept the DOR out of his books and
Sharon Lynn and the current BOS were the ones who called the DOR in to audit the
books.  Lots of crap was found and at almost every town meeting since we have
seen articles which were financial 'house keeping' issues attempting to correct
the mess Bergman left behind.

Also, Russ Braun is NOT the CLerk of the Works for the town hall project. 
There's an older man (can't think of his name) who is doing the job.  Because of
the funding sources and the fact that this is a municipal project, an architect
had to be hired to oversee certain aspects of the job.  And yes, Braun is being
paid extra to do the job but it has saved the town about $75,000 by not hiring
an outside architect.
1:47 pm edt 

Re: Historic District Commission

How did the house on the corner of Pleasant and Bradford Opposite Tips
for Tops'n get permission from the Historic commission to use contemporary glass
doors? I looked at the historic district map and it appears the house is in the
district. If I am wrong please correct me. The doors do not look awful but gee
others would never be given the right to do the same.
1:44 pm edt 

Re: Group Behind the Curtains

If Someone Sends a Shout Out to the Webmaster, I would think he would
assume it is to be published

Seems if someone sends a shout out and they do not want it published, they
should say so. I don't know how the webmaster would know that a shout out is
only meant as a nod to him. Maybe next time, someone should explicitly write
that the shout out is not meant to be published. Becasue if the shout out is not
demeaning of anyone, I would think he would just publish it.
12:42 pm edt 

That's a Good Point on Keith Bergman

Most of us did know that he was playing with different funds and using monies
from one fund to cover problems from another. Most of us, or some of us, hoped
that would stop when Bergman left. But why would it? Power is used to do what
those in key positions want to do, regardless of the law and transparency.
Should we be surprised if it is happening here and now?
12:41 pm edt 

Re: Group Behind the Curtains

Sorry, my panties are not in a twist but your logic is.  There was no
reason to include any reference to sexual orientation in a statement about do
gooders. That is the only statement I will make on the subject.
To Clarence:  The email I sent was a note to you.  You chose to publish it
instead of taking it into consideration which was its obvious intent . I do not
feel that is in the good interest of anyone to start a mud slinging campaign
with a basis of sexual orientation.
8:44 am edt 

Town Manager is the One in the Know and Also the Past Treasurer

FinCom gets number that THEY give them. They naively, view these numbers as real
but too often they are not. Town manager, just like Keith Bergamn before her,
plays with key budgets items and closely held--only to her--funds. Money moves
from one to other but the numbers given to others are what they want to give.

It's a relatively closed world and one established with false numbers because of
the unknowns accounts that monies move in and out of. This has been going on for
years and Sharon has continued the "tradition." You'll never get the real
numbers from Braun and what he actualy received for his oh-so-important
oversight of Town Hall. Please, the paint is already turning rust on the West
side. Yup. Great job Brownie--oh, sorry, great job Russie!
8:42 am edt 

Re: Departmental Budgets

Instead of "higher-than-expected ", just look at Sandy Turner, from
the department of public works.   "We knew [single stream recycling] would have
efficiency problems, we didn't understand how much".   TO THE TUNE OF MAYBE
$331,000

Now that's one I'll agree with you on.  Recycling Cte wants to go to single
steam, DPW says OK and brings it to town meeting for vote and now they come back
and basically say 'we really didn't think the whole thing through' and it's
going to cost us a lot more than we first thought.  We spent a boat load of
money for a new trailer and now maybe we will need to try to trade it in for a
different model? You didn't think it through?  What do we pay you for?

Yup, that one ticks me off as well.  There needs to be some accountability for
this lack of professional behavior and I don't see it.  We have some great town
employees, but there are some management level employees who do not make the
grade and for whatever reason the leaders of this town are unwilling to cut them
loose.  And we continue to pay for their mistakes.
12:07 am edt 

Friday, October 15, 2010

Re: Herring Cove Bathhouses

Such a shame to read in the Banner that they are going to tear down
the bathhouse at Herring Cove and replace it with modular units that sound like
cookie cutter "Cape Cod Style" buildings.

The bathhouse is a great example of modern architecture, and while it may not
have the pedigree of a famous designer, I think it has great character and is a
great reminder of simpler times. There aren't many examples of mid century
architecture in Provincetown, and it will be so unfortunate to see one
demolished.

I hope the town takes a second look at this building before they raze it.
9:24 pm edt 

Re: Departmental Budgets

Instead of "higher-than-expected ", just look at Sandy Turner, from
the department of public works.   "We knew [single stream recycling] would have
efficiency problems, we didn't understand how much".   TO THE TUNE OF MAYBE
$331,000

DO THE MATH.  Higher than expected or We didn't under stand how much!    BOTH
ARE COSTING US LOTS OF DOLLARS
9:21 pm edt 

To : Austin Knight

Austin,  you have not been upfront with the BOS and the Town Manager
about your dealings with Eliot peter Denault and now the town knows you have
worked on at least 2 out of his homes, which both now have building code
violations and cease-and-desist orders.  Your lying has persisted.  It is well
past the time for such practices to end.  I am sure everyone was pleased with
your decision to pull away.   A total and full investigation should continue, as
a town official, you in actuality, should have asked some basic questions on
property you were going to work on or for.   What are you not asking about how
our town operates and with the millions of our dollars?
9:19 pm edt 

A Few Thoughts:

1.  You can walk into "the" town office and be fed any number of written various
"accurate" amounts on anything or read a town "report".  Don't believe
everything you read.  Town Counsels or Mr. Brauns don't get wealthy performing
charity.   

2. To the blogger re: "lesbians" and control.  It's a power struggle.  A truth
hurts which is why people get their knickers in a twist. 

3.  Mr. Knight:  Enough.  Anyone with a first name akin to a city connected with
"W" has and knows his demons.  At least he's doesn't have an a/k/a of Dick
Cheney, Philip is much nicer. I prefer the Silver Brown Fox.

4.  Bradford St.:  Good call. 

5.  Bangs St.:  Holy mackarel.  Hey blogmaster, can we get some photos of the
erosion on the hill and side?  Aren't haybales supposed to be "above" the
ground?

6.  Bangs St. Extension a/k/a the phantom road:  If we knew your fate was to be
taken by eminent domain and squatting rights and filled with small "cookie
cutter" evergreen plants, mulch and gravel we would have planted native
blueberries, silver dollars, crowberries or lady slippers in much larger
quantity than what was there before.  Either Conservation didn't see them or
they just didn't care. Shame on you ConsCom.

7.  Great day today, winter sky for the first time.  Actually comforting with
thoughts of fireplaces, whitecaps, blowing leaves, hot toddies and friends. 
Great day.
Thanks.
7:38 pm edt 

Re: Secret Funds

"The financial games are like intricate mazes and yes, this little
so-cal democracy,..."


Who all is in on it?  The BOS, Town Manager, FinCom, old town acountant, new
town accountant, auditors, Mass Dept of Revenue who came in an did a review of
the town?  Tell us wise one as you seem to be the only one outside the inner
circles who knows this infomation.
7:32 pm edt 

Re: Departmental Budgets

"I'm getting tired of the same old line "higher-than-expected " from
all the departments doing budgets."


Can you tell me when this was said about 'all the departments doing budgets' and
who said it.  Because it doesn't appear you want to base your statements on
facts if you an tell us exactly when and who said it I'll call or go see the
town accountant and ask about it.

Wouldn't it be so much better to have a conversation on this blog backed up with
facts?
6:50 pm edt 

Finagle the Bagel

That is what is going on and if you think that you will get accurate numbers
from the town and from Sharon, believe in Santa Clause. The financial games are
like intricate mazes and yes, this little so-cal democracy, is far from this.
You know this and so do I. Let's not pretend. Oh, ok, you just want to. Living
in Alice in Wonderland may have some benefits but I think it's basically
corrosive.
4:31 pm edt 

Re: Group Behind the Curtains

Im the one who posted the term "a group of behind the curtains well to
do politically connected left wing do gooder lesbians". This was not a statement
about lesbians, rather a statement about a group of behind the curtains well to
do politically connected left wing do gooder's who happen to be lesbians. Get
your panties out of a twist.
4:30 pm edt 

Re: True Democracy

Whomever wrote this needs to smoke another doobie and carry on talking to
themself.       .
1:35 pm edt 

Ask the Town Accountant's Office

"But you will not find a line item for clerk of works identifying the
monies as Russell Braun's."



But if you walk into the Town Accountant's office and ask how much was paid to
Russell Braun he will tell you the exact amount.  But that would ruin your
conspiracy theory wouldn't it?
11:10 am edt 

Re: Relationship Between Developers and Inspectors

Regarding the property on Bradford St. If work was done with or
without permits, it should be inspected, if there are any violations they should
be fixed. How about the gut renovation with structural changes without an
engineer, or permit at 230 Commercial st. by a real estate developer to his
gallery over the winter. They did get a permit for exterior work, but did they
get one for a full gut renovation, floors, walls, ceilings, electrical, and
HVAC, I don't think so, never saw that permit?  He also gut renovated his huge
studio to the 2'nd floor over Roots. No permits there , but a blind man could
see all the construction trucks, and workers all winter. Where was our Russell
Braun. Was Russell to busy with his second job as clerk to do his first job. All
of the other commercial renovations in town were accompanied by handicap access.
that is a ramp with a gentle slope and a railing. 230 Com. has a slope that is
to steep, and no railing. Was this approved, and sig!
ned off on by Russell Braun? and if so why? I won't ask the other obvious
question about the relationship between developers and inspectors, and
corruption.
11:02 am edt 

Re: Why

Because you believe that by constantly trashing town government employees and
operations with anonymous, unsubstantiated, false allegations of slush funds,
favoritism and other conspiracies your wife, or you can then run for selectman
on a platform of cleaning up the supposed mess. This is the tactic of sad, weak
people who have no record of doing anything positive for the town or in their
own lives. I hope in the spring voters won't reward this behavior.
10:59 am edt 

In Response to the Why?

Government officals work for us - the taxpayer.  One would think certain
information is public record unless specified as confidential. People must be
held accountable for their time on our tax dollar.  There must be information
kept somehwere within the town offices about this.

10:58 am edt 

Re: Secret Funds

"... Only one of many secret funds and don't look at town
yearly reports. You'd have to be quite naive to think you could find secret
funds listed there! ..."


How big is this secrect fund?  Is it around $100,000, $1,000,000, a
$100,000,000?  You seem to be one of the few who knows about it, just curious as
to how big it is and how they got that money in the first place.
10:57 am edt 

Be More Sensative

Clarence, it was irresponsible for you to post the comment about do
gooder lesbians.  This is obviously meant as a slur and has nothing to do with
issues.  Would you like it if it was directed toward  black people...do gooder
black people? Think not.  Please remove it and be more sensative.
10:54 am edt 

Thanks for Your Critical Perspectives

I love what I read. I am grateful for those who offer their perspectives on so
many issues. I love the deep thinking and the looks behind the curtain that many
here provide. What a gem. Thanks.
10:53 am edt 

Well, to Your Question

I think at least one person who is running this town is Michelle Couture's
boss--the person she rents her apartment from and the person she rents her lily
pond frogs from--Donnie. He controls much but does it from behind the lily pond.
He owns the Coffee Pot and she did get the extra forty or so seats for him. Nice
to have a chair of the BOS as your rentee. Especialy when you want much from
that person. 

                                                                                                              
"Tis a question I've often asked. Any answers?                                       
10:52 am edt 

Please, You Can't Spell and Your "Diction" is Flawed
 
What a mess you are. Your writing is atrocious and you can't even write in
straight lines.

Please, get it together and maybe then post. What a mess you are.
10:48 am edt 

You Folks Are a Hoot. What's Next? The KGB or CIA Control Town Hall?
 
I mean really, do you write this stuff seriously or have you had a few
cocktails?  I can't wait to see the next conspiracy theory exposed here.  My
best friend is a writer and even he doesn't come up with stuff this good.

I can't make them up as good as some of the writers here, but I'll try.

-The BOS have already secretly purchased Cabral's Wharf, but haven't told us
yet.  It was paid for out of the secret fund at town hall.
-Russ has a secret room he built in the basement of the new town hall where he
can go when he doesn't want to work.
-The PBG and Chamber are owned by the Tea Party and the Tea Party does the theme
weeks in an effort to destroy Provincetown which they consider a bastion of
decadence.

Just keep smiling :)
10:47 am edt 

Sorry, But Did You Really Believe This was a True Democracy

Oh, boy, how naive. You really did? Please, don't be so naive. This town has
nothing to do with democracy. It is here for those who know how to pull the town
strings. It's as simple and as complicated as this. Those who thought it was a
sexual preference issue miss the point and missed it long ago. It's about
politics and power.

Sharon Lynn was brought in and was "selected" by this group. And what a group it
was. Sorry, Cheryl but you were on this hand-picked committee. She was a shoe in
and realy a disaster. She is sadly weak and inefectual. Wish this was not true
but just look at her. That is if you can find here. She was not the best
candidate but tragically her sexual preference was the key factor in her
selection. Autin Knight and MaryJo Avellar were also on this infamous committee.
Poor choice and now look at what we have. Weak, wishy-washy decisions by a woman
who can't make any strong determined decisions. She is who we have and sadly we
need someone else.

Sharon Lynn may have been good for West Goshen Pennslyvania but she is over her
head in Provicetown Ma.

Send her back, gently, to West Goshen.

Thanks but it is time for you to go. Please do go. Best wishes Sharon but please
do leave and soon.
10:43 am edt 

Thursday, October 14, 2010

There Was Money For a Clerk of Work When It Was Publicly Advertised

I think the salary was around $60,000. But no outsider was hired even though
quite a few were interviewed or at least applied for the position. Then,
suddenly, Russell Braun was selected by Sharon Lynn to be the cleark of works.
But since his salary is set as Building Commissioner, how could he be paid for
two jobs during the same time? The question still remains even with all the
gyrations that took place to make this happen. But you will not find a line item
for clerk of works identifying the monies as Russell Braun's. It's the secret
fund that paid for this. Only one of many secret funds and don't look at town
yearly reports. You'd have to be quite naive to think you could find secret
funds listed there! Same for the legals bills paid under other accouting funds
that do not and never will show up in town reports.
9:28 pm edt 

"Higher-Than-Expected "

I'm getting tired of the same old line "higher-than-expected " from
all the departments doing budgets.
Does ANYBODY in this administration 'have a handle' on what's 'REALLY GOING
ON'?? WHY IS IT ALWAYS A BIG 'SURPRISE'?
8:52 pm edt 

Why?

Why do people wonder and speculate on here about town matters.
(pay, vacation, ect..) It is all avialable from town hall. All you have
to do is ask. Why try to create issues without the fact? Some people
seem to just see themselves talk.
8:49 pm edt 

Re: Austin Knight

Has anybody else heard that his name is not really Austin Knight? I'm told that
his name is Phillip something or other. Why would he change his name? Is he
hiding something? Will the webmaster actually print this about his good friend?
Only time will tell.
8:47 pm edt 

The Real Power

So all of you do know that if your working for Sharon Lynn you are
actually working for a group of behind the curtains well to do politically
connected left wing do gooder lesbians. Right? Thats who is running this Town
politically.
8:44 pm edt 

Where is Austin?

Anyone seen the guy?   Use to see him around town all the time.   Now, POOF, he
is gone.   Is he hiding till the house falls over on Bradford Street?   Wonder
if he is still the property manager?
8:42 pm edt 

Wednesday, October 13, 2010

Extra Vacation is Also a Secret Gift Given to Some and Not to Others

Do you know how much vacation time department heads have? Depends on who they
are. Some have plenty of time; others not as much. Depends on what gifts they
were given by Sharon and then additional time given later in their time working
for HER. Check it out--if you really can. Yes, a democracy but the information
is not open neither is it shared by all. Selective and elistist, sorry to say.

How much vacation time do you have?
10:23 pm edt 

Russell Braun, Sharon Lynn.....Secret Funds

How You Miss the Point. If the Funds are Secret, the Finance Committee
Does not See Them Or Even Know About Them

Secret is secret. Hidden is hidden. It is the financial games and mazes played
inside by insiders when insiders want to play these games. Braun was not paid in
any way that the Finance Committee could ever find  nor could you, my friend.
That is what secret game playing is all about. But it did happen and Braun got
much money stuffed in his pockets from Sharon's secret agreement with him.

Who was Clerk of the Works for Town Hall? Exactly and did he just do this for
nothing or only Sundays? Ah, no. Not at all.
10:15 pm edt 

Will You Publish This?

I find the incivility, vindictiveness, and vengefulness that
characterize many comments on this site undercut what might
otherwise be arguments worth considering.

I wonder if people might be more civil(and even coherent) if they had to sign
their name to their comments.

How about it, Clarence? Will you publish this?
10:13 pm edt 

Hats Off!

In light of today's happenings, everyone should find a darkest, most
silent space and stand for 20 minutes without moving, at all. It is not easy.  I
did and it is no simple task and doesn't even remotely come close to the
experience of these brave men today and for the last few months.  Set a stop
watch and see for yourself.  Dog parks, developers, legal counsel, Ms. Lynn and
Mr. Braun - all issues that deserve tissues compared to the reality of the men
rescued today.  Proud to be a member of the human race.  Their spirit unbridled
gives me a hope I didn't know I could have.
Thank you miners.  You are an inspiration.  I want to sell out and move to
Chile. 
10:12 pm edt 

Aversion to the Facts

Re: "It was and is a sham and that is one of the reasons Heilala left
Provincetown."



I happen to know Alix and it had nothing to do with her reasons for leaving
Provincetown.  Seems you have an aversion to the facts.
10:10 pm edt 

Gotta Love This Town....

.....full of a bunch of whining cry babies.

Respectfully submitted by the CapeCodMermaid.
10:09 pm edt 

Re: Town Counsel Services

"How insulting to the local law community.  You have to go to Boston to
get someone top  notch that doesn't have a conflict."



You need a legal counsel that is able to answer a wide variety of questions from
employment issues, to municipal law, to state conflict of interests to
responding to a variety of legal actions that may be brought against the town. 
A one or two person local law firm simply does not have that kind of expertise
on staff.  Only a large law firm with large staff can provide that kind of
expertise.  I for one, am glad were not trying to go cheap on legal
representation.  It could and probably would come back to bite us later.
10:07 pm edt 

Re: Bang Street Development

Went down Bangs St. today.  Why are only two of the Bangs St. prefabs
up for sale?  Aren't there 4 units built in 2 houses - buildings or 4 units in 4
buildings or 6 or 10 or maybe I'm just confused?  I thought there were 4.  Any
word on this?  It was such a hullabalu, can we get some follow up?  Any under
agreements?  Any broker comment?  Anything?

signed - a worried abutter on Willow
10:05 pm edt 

How do We Find Out the Real Facts?

How do we find out what Sharon Lynn paid Russell Braun from seperate funds for
his work as Clerk-of-the Works for overseeing the rehabilitation of Town Hall.

Is the "Clerk-of-the Works" a seperate line item from the towns budget?  And was
it all to pay for Brauns "overseeing" the rehab of town hall, or did some of
those dollars go to others?

FACTS PLEASE
10:03 pm edt 

Re: 95 Bradford Street

Was at Atlantic House and walking to Bradford, noticed Dixies old
house (May he rest in peace ) had the back yard all dug up.   I know you do not
need a permit to dig a hole, but you do if you are putting something in the
ground to heat your home, that has a new heating system.   Oh yes, the owner
told the town he didnt install a heating system.   
10:01 pm edt 

Re: 95 Bradford Street

Just drove by 95 bradford Street.  Work is being done outside the
house and people are going inside carrying what looks like food and staples.  
Thought the town said the house was UNSAFE?
Just saying!
Where is Braun?  On vacation again this week. 
Who is watching?   The entire town is now watching, but things still look like
they are not following the towns orders?
10:00 pm edt 

Re: Town Counsel Legal Services

So your'e saying basically that the Librarians' salaries was more than
town legal counsel made off Ptown in 2009... with all that litigation and all
those time consuming cases and sewer breakdowns and water problems and legal
advice and trips down and back up for meetings and phone calls and document
drawings ... right.  Want to buy a bridge?
9:58 pm edt 

Austin Knight- The Embarrassment Continues

It's bad enough he is a selectman. But he was also appointed to be our
representative to the Cape Cod Commission.

Now THAT is an embarassment. We went from having Roz Garfield, to Austin?

Someone needs to step up to the plate, and replace him in this position asap.


Slippery Clam
9:56 pm edt 

Re: Secret Accounts

I would suspect our finance committee would have uncovered all these secret
slush funds as they are top notch but perhaps they too are part of the
developer/masons/assessment/secret slush fund conspiracy siphoning funds to
their bank accounts in the cayman islands and should also be hoisted by their
thumbs from the pier and covered in sewage like the rest of the crooks :) 
Really, this stuff makes me laugh and is so entertaining, keep it up, the mental
confusion and conflation of issues is hilarious.


9:55 pm edt 

Re: Law

Law, like medicine, is a multifaceted discipline. You would not want your
General practitioner performing brain surgery and likewise you should not want
an estate attorney doing municipal law work.  The town I used to work in tried
keeping with the local guy. He was a nice man but he had to keep reaching out to
other firms for help. They ended up going with the same firm that P-Town uses
and saved money in their town counsel account. Run for office and walk a mile in
their shoes before you criticize. 
9:54 pm edt 

Slaying the Messenger

Steele uncovered a lot of shenanagians on the pier. Whistleblowers
like DAS are punished in Provincetown.
9:52 pm edt 

Re: Town Legal Counsel-Local Representation

There is one rich active developer that has a local lawyer that has
done just fine.  Multiple developments and yet, no conflicts.  How insulting to
the local law community.  You have to go to Boston to get someone top  notch
that doesn't have a conflict.  Please.  Ridiculous.  Plenty of people in the
developing business work right here on town boards.  Isn't Mr. Braun, your Bldg.
Inspector, a developer also?  or was that in a past life?  Typical mindset and
no, the amounts in the town report available to the public, do not convince me
that they represent the totals paid.  Christ, I've witnessed 10 stupid phone
calls a day for 10 stupid questions.  Oh, those are free?  Right. 
10:47 am edt 

Re: Secret Funds

Sharon Lynn paid Russell Braun from seperate funds for his work as Clerk-of-the Works for overseeing the rehabilitation of Town Hall.

There was no transparancy! She effectively gave Braun a raise with no more work hours required.

It was and is a sham and that is one of the reasons Heilala left Provincetown.  
9:27 am edt 

Expensive, Good Lawyers - What's the Problem?

I'm glad the town has top legal talent outside of the local sphere.  You don't
think the rich developers have the same thing ?

This town is an extremely desireable place to build and naturally developers and
their top notch lawyers want to build here to the max.  Why shouldn't the town
have the same caliber of legal talent ?
9:20 am edt 

Re: Austin Knight

There is No where Austin should run, except out of town
9:18 am edt 

Town Legal Counsel

To the person wanting all the info about legal fees....  check out the Annual
Town Report (available online or from the Town Clerk).

If you want to see the actual bills, you need to go in person and request to see
the vouchers from the Town Accountant.

Rest assured, you are entitled to see what your tax dollars have been used for.
9:17 am edt 

Re: Secret Funds

Please, The town Has Many Secret Funds Used to Pay Town Employees and
also Town Lawyers

But since they are hidden and secret, you won't easily find the trail to these
funds. Sharon would be embarrased to publicly declare the high legal fees we do
pay. So, they are paid with other funds as are some town employees. It will
never show up in town budgets but it is being paid out. Those who know have left
like Heilala and perhaps one reason she did leave. Hard to keep covering up the
real money issues and the financial games that are constantly being played.

9:16 am edt 

Re: Town Counsel

From 2009 Town Report

n Ann Silva 83

During 2009, Town Counsel provided significant legal services to the Town,
including the rendering of numerous legal opinions, approving contracts as to
form, attending Town Meetings, and meeting with the Board of Selectmen and
various other Town boards.  There are currently 13 active litigation cases
involving the Town which are pending in various courts.  There were 7 cases
closed in 2009.

During 2009, Town Counsel provided significant advice and assistance to the Town
Manager and Board of Selectmen with respect to resolving the Town's claims
against the sewer system operator arising out of the July 4th sewer system
failure.  This has included advice regarding the return to the compliance plan
ordered by the Department of Environmental Protection.

Town Counsel has also been working closely with Town officials to acquire the
land located in Truro that is needed for the development of the North Union Well
Field.  We are also engaged in negotiating a new intermunicipal agreement with
the Town of Truro. Over the past year, Town Counsel has also been advising the
Town with respect to contracting and financing issues involved in the Town Hall
renovation project.

We extend our appreciation to the Board of Selectmen and the Town Manager for
their confidence in retaining this firm.  We also appreciate the assistance and
cooperation received on all matters from the Board of Selectmen, Town Meeting,
the Town Manager, department heads, and the boards and committees with whom we
have worked. We look forward to working with the members of the Town government
in the future. Respectfully submitted, Kopelman and Paige, P.C. Town Counsel

Town Counsel

Note: This is from the town annual report for 2009. A simple call to to the town
finance director I am sure can yield the answer to how much this cost.
9:14 am edt 

Re: Austin Knight

James Bennette, of J. Bennette Roofing of Pembroke lives I believe in
the same town as the new owner of 95 bradford Street.  Wonder if he is also a
Mason?
No wonder he got the job with Peter, the owner.   Does he think just because he
doesn't live on cape cod, he can play by a different set of rules?  Things do
catch up to people.   Peter, you got caught.   Heard you are having problems
with the town at your so called guest house at 7 Masonic Place.   Did you not
have your correct Provincetown License Application for the last 8 or so years?
Have you not signed the Tax Affidavit saying you have paid all state taxes
required under the law?
Hey, wait a minute.  Austin Knight worked at that house a few years back.  He
fell of a ladder painting and shingling the house at 7 masonic place.   Did
Austin know then that the owners have not filed a license for running a guest
house with the town?   Lets ask Austin some more questions.  The soil is just
being turned over.  
you ready to fess up Austin?  
9:08 am edt 

Re: Austin Knight

AUSTIN KNIGHT SHOULD RESIGN IMMEDIATELY HE IS A FRAUD AND SHOULD NOT
BE SITTING AT THE BOS TABLE FOR ONE MORE SECOND.
9:06 am edt 

Re: CSL License

James Bennette does have a CSL.

A Rat In The Basement
9:02 am edt 

Town Council

Seems to me that the town's legal budget has decreased by almost half since
Sharon Lynn took over.  And sure we should get someone more local like Truro
does.  Oh wait, wasn't their town council involved in some misdeeds involving
elderly clients?

Our town council does a great job for us and we should be thanking them.
9:00 am edt 

Duane Steele Talks About the Pier?

Yeah, that should really be an unbiased commentary considering he was fired from
the pier.  I think i'll watch GLEE instead.
8:59 am edt 

Re: Russell Braun

Glad Russell is one.  A LCS that is.  Would hope so as he represents a
town.  Sort of.  Actually, if you applied a few years ago, there wasn't a
"test".  Just an app., send in a small photo and a fee and bingo, you are
"grandfathered" in.  Plenty of LCS aren't aware of new codes or regs. or up to
date on refreshers.  All town inspectors are supposed to be LCSs, if not, wow.  

8:57 am edt 

Tuesday, October 12, 2010

Hey Rat!

James Bennette, of J. Bennette Roofing of Pembroke


Decon
7:07 pm edt 

Town Legal Counsel

As a taxpayer, I would like to know EXACTLY how  much coin was paid
out to "Town Legal  Counsel" for last year's services and the year before.  I
think we all know that even a short phone call to any attorney is quite billable
so let's see a breakdown.  Law firms send itemized bills.  Let's see some. 
Someone at town hall received the bills and requested checks from someone else. 
This should be simple to produce.    We should know how much and for what this
firm is being paid top dollar in the face of troubled times.  With a budget so
tight, this could be a prime area of fund leakage worse than an open door in
winter or an empty school.   Why is this never addressed?  This needs to be
shown to be a productive investment for taxpayers or else it's a huge waste of
much needed funds.  Shouldn't be a big deal or reason for blogger backlash or
personal insults.  Just how much money has this Boston law firm been paid by me
and other taxpayers for the service of them tel!
ling my town officials what to do from 100 miles away?  Again, we need to unite
and get some straight answers on this.  Why not, we have the right to know. 
Simple.  How much?  Please.  Guaranteed, this will be ignored...  and Pru should
be all over doing some real research on this.  Meaning, fct, not opinion.  Fact,
tax forms, bills, checks.  Facts.  It may be nothing out of the ordinary or it
could be huge. Let's find out.
7:02 pm edt 

Re: Attorney

Just a guess but it would likely be hard to find a local attorney who is not
conflicted out of working for town or conversely by working for the town would
not then be able to work for anyone whose business might come before the town.
Secret accounts, oh come on.

6:58 pm edt 

This Structure is Declared Unsafe

This is the new sign at 95 Bradford Street.   And someone wants to tell us why
Austin with his construction ability would even want to be the property manager
for 95 Bradford Street?   The owner made his money this summer.  Now he has all
winter to fix the problems and then make more money next summer.  What is wrong
with this picture?   The town allows a BOS person to help friends make money.  

RECALL AUSTIN NOW
6:56 pm edt 

Total BS

"I also believe that some of the legal bills are being paid
out of secret or hidden accounts so that the amount we are told is being paid is
not the real or actual amount."



Does not happen.  Where did you pull that whopper from?
6:54 pm edt 

Re: Construction Supervisors License

I did a search on Mass. Gov(dot) Org and did not find a Construction
Supervisors License for Austin Knight.

I need the first name of the Owner of Bennet roofing, the company listed on the
sign nailed to the side of the house on Bradford, to search that.

But at least Russell has one.

A Rat In The Basement
6:41 pm edt 

95 Bradford Street

Town was at property today.  New orange sign on house.
HOUSE IS UNSAFE.   DO NOT ENTER
(Maybe they should have a sign warning people not to use Austin Knight also)

4:25 pm edt 

I Agree on Exorbitant Legal Advice and Bills

The town counsel is always being called. It is constant and often ridiculous.
Some department heads should know their job but they don't and rely time after
time on town counsel. I also believe that some of the legal bills are being paid
out of secret or hidden accounts so that the amount we are told is being paid is
not the real or actual amount. I link some of this excess reliance on town
counsel to Couture's appraoch to being chair and the incredible number of
executive sessions she holds. I've never seen BOS that has so many executive
sessions. Seems more mismanagement than solid management but it is linked to
more and more legal calls and of course billable time. It's not their nickel,
however, but our dollars!
4:23 pm edt 

Some of You KNow a Lot About Braun. Why Doesn't Sharon Know The Truth?

There's something wrong here. Many issues raised about Braun bring up
significant problems with how he does his job. But sharon seem to give him more
and more jobs to do like oversee Town Hall instead of being on the street
inspecting buildings and checking that everything is really being built to code.
Why does Sharon tolerate this questionable behavior by Braun?
4:21 pm edt 

Re: Town Counsel

2 points to be made.  First, regarding town counsel.  Don't know why
we need a firm that must travel a min. of two hours each way for any little
thing that requires actual human contact.  Most attys. get paid between $200 and
$400 an hour.  Seems like a waste, what no local attorneys are capable? How does
this law firm get paid, contract price, hourly?  As a taxpayer, I'd like to know
and how much did they make off us last year?
Second.   There should be a state run website or phone number you can contact to
see if someone has a valid Construction Supervisor's License.  There was in the
past and I believe it still exists. 
2:29 pm edt 

Re: Give Me a Break

Sorry, not seeing any "wild accusations" here.  Only discussion based
on questions.  Unless you have something you are hiding, no need to get
personally defensive.  Free speech is a right not a priviledge. 
2:25 pm edt 

Town Counsel

According to 7-2-5 of town charter town counsel is appointed by town manager
subject to board of selectmen approval.
10:45 am edt 

Give Me a Break

This town is on better fiscal footing and better managed than it has been in
years. The budget is transparent, many dank fiscal corners have been swept
clean, we have obtained millions in grants we really don't deserve and our
infrastructure is finally getting rebuilt. We are far ahead of almost anyone on
the cape for wastewater treatment. Receivership, give me a break. All this in
midst of worst economy since 1930s. Now we do have a small issue of $64 million
in unfunded retiree benefits but so does every other gov in the country. If you
don't like the way money is spent run for office and change it or convince the
voters at town meeting. If you have evidence of illegal behavior then turn it
into proper state authorities. Otherwise repeating your wild accusations and no
facts to back them up does no one any good.

10:43 am edt 

Braun's Lack of Conviction

Referring back a few years hen Austin Knight was in the papers for
some controversial job of his here in Town, it is my understanding that he does
not have a Construction Supervisors Licensee, CSL. He does however have a  Home
Repair Contractors License, HRCL.

A CSL allows the holder to get Building Permits in their name for property
owners. You must pass a lengthy test to get this license, and apparently Austin
has not been able to pass.

The HRCL is really an insurance policy set up by the State to protect
homeowners, and most everyone with a CSL also has a HRCL. You cannot get a
building permit with just a HRCL, but you can do work that does not require a
Building Permit.

You can work on a job that requires a permit if someone else has the permit, be
it another contractor or a property owner.

But it is possible he has gotten the CSL since then, but I suspect he hasn't
since he was trying to get a permit for the Bradford St. job in someone else's
name. Who by the way may also not have a valid license.

I think Russell Braun needs to go to the State and have both of these
contractors license suspended until this whole matter is worked out. I don't
know if he has ever actually done that, but I do know that he has threatened to
do that. And he has the authority to do it.

And the house should probably be condemned until all violations are fixed, since
at least one of them, the sewer drain venting into the attic, has the potential
to kill people.

But I don't believe our Building Commissioner can actually do his job with that
much conviction.

A Rat In The Basement


8:56 am edt 

State Receivership

I vote for the town to go into state receivership. Is anyone with me?
The shenanigans must stop. The stakes are too high and the taxpayer cost is too
great. We cannot continue managing the town the way it is being done. There
needs to be a moratorium on spending and a complete audit. Stop the insanity and
get a grip. 
8:53 am edt 

And Speaking of Town Counsels...

How are town counsels chosen?  Do the towns bid out each year for this service
at xxx amount of dollars annually or are they voted in by a certain group?

A substantial taxpayer
8:51 am edt 

Monday, October 11, 2010

Truth be Known

You may not want to face it, but it's the truth.   Mr. Braun,  Ms.
Lynn, Ms. Couture, Ms. Evan, etc. are all limited extension extremities of your
beloved Town Counsel.  Why does a small town at the tip of the Cape pay top
dollar for legal advice from a firm based out of Boston?  Gee, can't imagine. 
Let's see.  Oh that's right, the respected developer of a recent prefab project
is also a successful lawyer from Boston.  How much did the taxpayers cough up
for legal counsel's pathetic appearance at the  "abutters" meeting?  How much? 
Not kidding, EXACTLY how much did this cost taxpayers?  Someone wrote the check. 
Someone knows.  I want to know too.  Now.
8:24 pm edt 

Reunite With Truro

How much longer will taxpayers be forced to pay for the DPW,s
continuing failure to do their jobs properly? The latest example, seen in this
week's Banner, involves recycling. Once again, Guertin and his incompetant staff
were too lazy to fully investigate the actual costs the project. Dana Faris
states that the project wasn't "fully vetted". As the Financial Administrator,
isn't that his job? Sandy Turner, Guertin's second in command, admits that she
did not understand the depth of the efficiency problems. Why then was the money
approved? Read the full story and, once again, see what this latest commedy of
errors is costing us. $331,000 just to start. Add this to the dollars wasted for
the sewer, the pier, the school, Grace Govea parking lot, etc and it never ends.
We should fire the heads of the DPW, get rid of the selectmen and go back to
being part of Truro. They, at least. seem to know how to run a town in these
hard times.

Bearded Clam
8:22 pm edt 

Russell Braun & Sharon Lynn
 I believe Braun is over his head. He is unable to check permits on a
timely basis time and time again. Our Town Manager sets the bar of performance
very low for him.
Hopefully she will finally say no more as his sub-standard performance as it is
a reflection on her mangement of our Town.
11:34 am edt 

Re: Is Russell Braun Blind or Just Plain Conniving

Right on Tea Party Member: 

Joe Schmo has to follow the rules but not
a town dept. rep and his buds.  Come on, fellow Masons, seriously? This Bldg.
Insp. has shown himself to be painfully inept over and over. Good example, the
neighbor at the top of the hill over Bangs St.  Bldg. Insp. had no clue the
raping of the dune caused this neighbor's foundation and patio to crack. 
Really?  He didn't bother to even climb the hill to check.  This common joe
schmo could see that coming a mile away and he couldn't?  The constant slaps in
the face to some while kisses go to others is beyond sickening. Hurricane
Accountability will hit.  Wait until someone files a claim with their insurance
company over some damage and an investigation reveals not built according to
code, sorry, not covered.  Let a property claim on some new construction be
denied and that what it will take for the fun to start.  All it takes is someone
to be denied some cash and look out. Heads will roll then,!
  and only then.
11:22 am edt 

Don't Ask Braun For Any Answers This week--He's Not there

Where is he? Out on another vacation. He won't be around to answer any questions
anyone may have on Dixie's old house or about what he knew and when he knew it
about Austin Knight. Better wait a week but then, how long will he be in his
office next week? Time to take another vacation. He's always away. When he is
here, it's from the trailers to town hall. That's the route and that's all he
does. He does not go through town, he does not inspect, he does like
enforcement. He believes it's not his role. He is the architect/building
commissioner/advisor. Enforcement is someone else's role according to him. This
way he doesn't get big time developers mad at him. He keeps them smiling and
they keep him smiling. Great deal for him. Bad deal for the town.
11:18 am edt 

Austin Knight

Is it true that Knight can't be licensed as a contractor because of
his bankruptcy filings? But he can overesee the Town's $20,+ budget?  How
appalling!
9:08 am edt 

Property Managers

The reason property managers are hired is to watch
and care for a property.please ask any property mgt.
company in town and they will tell you a weekly
inspection is required and being such a small town,
numerous drive by,s are done. the property mgt.co.
is responsible for all activity at a home and they
pay large insurance premiums for this reason.
9:07 am edt 

Is Russell Braun Blind or Just Plain Conniving?

This Braun guy is proving what a joke he is all the time. The latest
fiasco with the Bradford St. house is just so obviously a total disregard by him
to do his job. I certainly didn't know that there wasn't a permit for interior
work, but I certainly knew work was being done inside. Just like every body else
in Town who drives a car, I pass that house a few times a day. Surely if the
Building Commissioner is working he needs to pass by several times a day. And
this job had been going on for months. And I mean months after the exterior was
completed. I would drive by and see dumpsters being filled and replaced only to
be filled again. I would see the contractors trucks parked there or nearby day
after day after day. I would see tools set up in the back yard. I would see
workmen with tool belts on. I would see Austin Knight there. It was only a small
jump to the conclusion that the interior was being remodeled. Mr Braun is the
one responsible for issuing the permit for the exterior work. How come he didn't
question why the contractor was still working so long after the exterior was done?
When the Stop Work Order was nailed to the outside of the house I went and read it.
It stated two violations. One was working without a permit, the other was that there
was no Licensed Contractor. Does that mean that guy whose sign is on the building isn't
licensed?       
Then why did Braun issue a permit in the first place for the exterior work? So
then it takes an Assistant Tax Assessor to question the legality of the work
being performed under the original permit. Good for him, but really why didn't
Braun already know about this? I think he did know. I think he ignored it. I
think the guy doesn't like doing certain parts of his job. Actually I know he
doesn't like doing certain parts of his job. Witness all of the Open flags down
on Commercial St. I have personally heard him and other members of his
department say that they don't want to enforce the ByLaw regarding these flags,
because its too much work. But then Braun brings along a set of bolt cutters and
cuts the locked cable securing the sandwich board belonging to the hot dog shop,
and takes the sign. And doesn't tell the store owner, who only finds out about
it from the cops when he reports it stolen. So why does he enforce that ByLaw?
And then with this house on Bradford Street he s!
ays he doesn't know if he will be fineing the owner because he cant tell when
the work was done!?  He cant tell brand new work from an old derelict house?
What? How about the plumbing stack vented into the attic? He cant tell thats a
violation in need of a fine? Something really stinks with all of this. Is it the
fact that the owner of the house and Austin Knight are both Masons? Is it the
fact that Braun has been kissing up to the Masons in Town with admission into
the Lodge in his sights? This guy was the wrong choice from the very start and
he just keeps proving himself incompetent to do his complete job. Sharon needs
to axe this guy. Since she wont do that on her own I say we need to keep on top
of it, we need to put out all the little bits and pieces of information we have
in order to connect the dots. We do that enough and this guy will be history.

Tea Party Member
8:38 am edt 

Sunday, October 10, 2010

Today I Walked in the Beach Forest

On the beach, around town, it was gorgeous, filled with people, business
must have been good. Just a great weekend! Get out and enjoy the beautiful
sunshine!
10:33 pm edt 

Austin

Spare us please and just resign, do you really think that we can believe you and
your lies regarding not knowing the situation on Bradford Street, please. Sharon
and Michelle please ask for his resignation or their will be a recall and or a
long list of people at the microphone on the next BOS meeting demanding his
resignation. I also hope the BANNER does some real investigative reporting and
not just rely on gossip and innuendo. Go out and ask neighbors and the hundreds
who have seen Mr. Knight on property during this past summer. Please also
request to speak with the owners of the property if they choose not to speak
that will tell us all what a bunch of phonies those 2 beauties are as well.
10:31 pm edt 

Death at Sea

Any news on what happened and who died?
10:29 pm edt 

But Then You Would be One of the Crooks Running Town Hall

That makes no sense. We need new blood and new thinking. This is not a great
group at all. It is like a sinking boat and there is no captain. I don't know
where they are. It seems in La-La-Land.

At least they didn't buy Cabral's Pier. AT least they didn't purchase Joe's
parking lot. We'd be saddled with huge debt and they'd failed to get federal
funding. But, then, what is new. I'm sure we'll get another "update" on Town
hall and there will be new bills, new purchases. New furniture. New Michelle
Coture-inspired velvet drapes. Remember her attempt to take money from VSB for
her drapes! It's just not done, at least not the oh, by the way, we need a
little more money. Wait and see.
10:28 pm edt 

No Need to Demean

The truth speaks for itself.  A mega hepa filter
couldn't clean up town hall so good luck.  Tea Party  - whatever, sorry for the
inconvenience.  Back door politics has gone on way too long.  Recovery is
doubtful as long as bucks control which path is taken every time.  Slow it down
and recoup, clean house and you may, just may, have a chance.  Townies unite. 
10:26 pm edt 

Try to Get a Building Permit--Russ is Hardly Ever There

Maybe that's what happened to Austin Knight. Maybe he tried to get the right
permits but Braun was no where to be seen again.
10:25 pm edt 

Electoral Strategy

If I was a former selectman with the intent to run again I'd spend a lot of time
on here demeaning town management and employees and implying the place is a
crooked mess. That way when I ran again I could say "I'm going to take on the
crooks at town hall and clean it all up."  Tea Party strategy seems to work
elsewhere so why not use it here.

6:41 pm edt 

A Wonderful Celebration of Life For Mark Cross

Condolences to Hors. The get together at the Waterford for Mark was a good send
off for a wonderful person. So many people who were once connected to their
restaurant. Good friends came, spoke and said their goodbyes.
12:24 pm edt 

Whose Counting Towm Employees' Vacation Time?

Seems some key people are always on vacation. They are hardly in their office.
Why? they are on vacation again. Some haven't been here that long but they seems
to have months of vacation time. Who's counting? Who's monitoring? Does anyone
know?
12:22 pm edt 

Austin Did Know

This is a joke, isnt it?  As someone who has a contractors license and is on the
BOS, why would he not be upfront with the other BOS people?  Will he come clean? 

Guess the bond with his other boss Peter Denault III and the Masons, which
Austin and Peter are both members, are way stronger than the people of
Provincetown?   This is no surprise.
10:55 am edt 

Saturday, October 9, 2010

People Blog About Spelling.......Are We That Desperate?

Someone tells bloggers to leave their computers to enjoy a nice day for a while
and bloggers get  all up in the blogee's grlle.  Come on people.  We are better
than that.  Aren't we?  There are serious issues hiding in the shadows waiting for
their 15 minutes.  Winter is coming  and the time to clean house is past, opportunity
lost.  So, we face Brother Winter at the beck and call of town officials running
this town like it's the Wild Wild West.  If you are insulted because someone
suggested having a nice day, then, I suggest you get a camera and take some
pictures of any open space possibly buildable now because the grape vine hints
multiple purchases and a boom in building before the kiibash (spelling?) or
hammer comes down.  Developers are on the move and no inch of open land is
sacred. 
8:49 pm edt 

Re: Beach Walker

I'm with you! What spectacular weather we are having after that 4 day grey
storm. Downtown was full like high season today. I should have walked to the
Post Office instead of driving. So that was the worst thing that happened today.
It took me 5 minutes longer than expected.
5:36 pm edt 

To: "Who Are You Really Author..."

You comment on how other people spell, however your own spelling is incorrect...

I am not aware of the word "affend". I believe you meant to spell it "offend" -
To be displeasing or disagreeable to: Onions offend my sense of smell. 3. a. To
transgress; violate: offend all laws of humanity. b. To cause to sin.

"People who live in glass houses, should not throw stones."

Go for a walk on the beach... you may feel better later!!!!
1:20 pm edt 

To: Who Are You Really?

You need to chill out... I'll walk on the beach
and enjoy the beauty of this town and I'll share it with others all I want. At
least my blood pressure is normal and I'm not spewing nasty things about
everyone in town. Just got back from a beautiful walk in on the beach!!! Have a
wonderful day doing whatever it is that makes you happy.

Beach Walker
10:23 am edt 

Friday, October 8, 2010

Re: Morning Joe and Fox News
 
Morning Joe and Fox news NEVER take reporting the news seriously. They
are entertainment shows and only want high ratings to make more money. News that
they report on are like those cheap papers, like the national enquire at the
check out line.
9:43 pm edt 

To: Webmaster

Web Master why haven't you printed my question on SKIP board member
Betty Villari??? She is a public person that handles a lot of donations in town.
9:41 pm edt 

Who Are You Really?

Please, we don't need you telling us to walk the beach and enjoy life. We do
that. We know why we are here. Who the hell are you to teach us how to enjoy
life here? You affend us.

WE know why we are live here and what we love about Provincetown. How arrogant
of you to try to teach us how we should live. This is disgusting to me. Pleae,
whoever you are, PLease leave here.

You also don't spell well!
9:34 pm edt 

Re: "Knight Will End up Being Chair After Michele Leaves! God Help Us! "

I expect it will be Mr. Bedard, at least I hope so.  Guess it depends on who
runs and who is elected in May.
9:33 pm edt 

Writer's Block

Let's see.  Fabulous day today.  Indian summer for sure.  Awesome. 
Unlike some other things that aren't as pretty.  Mr. Knight (wasn't he accused
of something back in 2008?) seems to not be playing by the "rules", again?  Mr.
Dowd can't get along apparently and was tagged for domestic dispute.  Developers
are planning and conniving for more "affordable units" for the phantom residents
who fly south for the winter.  The dog park needs shade and nice doggies.  Bangs
St. is uglier than ever with all the rain and muck.  How's that retaining wall
holding up Mr. Silva?  Townies vs. townie wanna be's.  Parking and hazardous
waste disposal on Alden.  Has the rotting seaweed cleared out yet with all the
wind?  Probably not, a dune in the making though.  Right.  Dick dock is ticking. 
No worries, Ms. C is on top of it.  LOL, Material is endless. 

Love it. 
9:30 pm edt 

Re: John Dowd

That is not John Dowd the artist that was the chair of the Historical
Board.  A different person with the same name was arrested but I don't know why.
9:25 pm edt 

Austin Knight

Knight will end up being Chair after Michele leaves! God help us!
11:28 am edt 

John Dowd

Why was John Dowd arrested?
11:24 am edt 

Morning Joe - Serious Reporting ??

Watched Morning Joe this morning on MSNBC - do we really need to see various
pictures of Joe and Mica in sunglasses every commerical ?  Is that
representative of a news commentary show that wants to be taken seriously ?

Thank God for Fox !
11:22 am edt 

Re: Lands End

The adjacent lot owned by the Lands End owner is being sold and the
inn has a buyer too.
11:21 am edt 

The Sun is Shining

Back away from the keyboard and get out and enjoy it. Have a nice day everyone.
Take a little time to enjoy the view.
11:19 am edt 

Thursday, October 7, 2010

For This Town, Four Day Work Week is Wrong

I believe some other poster is so right. this makes no sense to anyone who needs
services. Why should we have the dump open at 6 in the morning? Oh, yes, so they
can have a four day work week. ARe we the foolish onese? I think so.

Get this town running like most towns are run. Five days and everyone at least
appears to work. This makes a mockery of town employees and town services.

And for those who don't use the Clerk's services on Friday, you tell me how many
people know that Doug Johnstone is working on Friday? When he was at the Fire
station, people knew. But that was a problem with non-profits. Who knows this
guy is there? Too few.

This just does not make any sense and is not how a municipality should be run.
11:41 pm edt 

Austin Didn't Know??

Come on!!!! This guy is a farce. I've sen his work in Truro and in Ptown and he
is a joke. As property manager, he didn't know people were sleeping in the
building? He's manager so the owner has a local contact, someone that knows the
ropes and keeps things up to date and LEGAL. I had to clean up a job he was
involved with years ago. This is no surprise. How stupid do you think we are
Austin? You are not a leader. If this is how you manage your business and other
peoples' propertys, why do you think you can run the towns affairs? Get out now
and save us all, including youself.
11:08 pm edt 

"Have a Nice Day"

Today, I walked on the beach and while I walked I smiled at people,
said, "Have a nice day." I also picked up trash to keep the beach looking better
for everyone to enjoy.
11:06 pm edt 

Re: Town Property Assessments

"Some gain an advantage and their properties have a deep lower
assessment when others are asessed at maximum."


you are so right.  the state of massachusetts is in on it too.  They mus be
because when they review assessments every year they must be giving special
favors to certain people.  and maybe the federal government is in on it too. 
everyone is out to get you.
11:05 pm edt 

Town Workers Work Week

"Then no one will be working on Monday because that is a vacation. So
we have another three day work week. ..."


Every time a holiday comes up you post your same old story.  Get over yourself. 
If you want to be a town employee apply for a position, if you don't then maybe
it's time for you to appreciate those who do work for the town.
11:00 pm edt 

Re: Austin Knight

Austin Knight new dam well what work was going on at Mr. Denaults home.  Austin
knew people were living at 95 Bradford Street all summer long.   Did he know
there was no occupancy permit or licenses issues?  He might claim he didnt know,
but anyone in his position should have asked the owner about all permits,
especially after the first stop work order was issued.   Austin Knight decided
to keep his eyes closed.   Someone in Austin Knights position, that being on the
BOS, should know the towns laws and state laws.  He should resign now.
I do find it disheartening that Austin Knight has not told the truth to Sharon.  
People in the neighborhood if called upon, would certainly testify that Austin
Knight was inside 95 Bradford Street during the construction of all interior
work being done.  For Sharon to do a true investigation, she would have her
people speak to individuals all around the area to gather more information
before she takes Austins word. 
Austin was only concerned about the dollars he was making from the project. 
This is one project that he will get caught playing a game with our town.
9:23 pm edt 

Bitter About 4 Day Work Week

You're just pissed off because you have to work 6 days a week. What's wrong with
treating our town employees better than how your boss treats you.  Has anyone
been unable to conduct town business?  The Clerk's office is still open 5 days
and guess what, few to none go in to do clerk business.

Everyone is now used to the town hall being open 4 days.  We all know when we
need to get things done.  Bills are still being paid.  Construction permits are
obviously not deterred.   No one has been negatively affected by the 4 day work
week.  And don't get on your high horse about second homeowners.  Even when they
were open 5 days, the second homeowner would have to come to town early to make
it in Friday, now they have to stay till Monday morning.  It's a wash.

I say there's nothing wrong with treating our town employees how we would want
to be treated.  Jealousy is an ugly thing.
9:19 pm edt 

Whose Working Now? Oh, No one.

It's Friday tomorrow and no one will be working in town trailers. No one works
on Friday unless they are playing I'm-not-here-on-Tuesday-so-I'm-here-on-Friday
game. Then no one will be working on Monday because that is a vacation. So we
have another three day work week. Makes no sense to run a town this way except
for town employees who love only working four days and then many weeks working
only three days.

Sharon, this was a dumb move. Go back to five days like all normal towns do.
This was rather stupid and now we have your legacy. This is not good. Do
something constructive, please. Admit, you made a dumb move and now will try to
rectify it.

Too hard for you to do? Just try.
7:45 pm edt 

Re: Austin Knight

Did the homeowner, Mr. Denault, pull the permit or does Mr. Knight,
being a builder and all, have a Mass. LCS permit as is required by Mass Law to
pull a permit?  Or does it not matter in Ptown because town officials make up
the rules to accomodate.  It does matter and State violation has occured if not. 
P.S.  Where are the impact zone windows on new construction within a mile of the
coast, any coast, again?  As required by new Mass. law?  No where, that's right.
At some point, all this will be called out and then the rats will be climbing
over each other to jump the sinking ship.  Sleep tight, yee with the fat lined
pants pockets.   
7:43 pm edt 

Playing the Game

In this town, connections are the key to the kingdom.   Ways that one
human touches another and in doing so, bypasses the rules that are so daunting
and boring sometimes and only apply to those not willing or unable to play the
game.
7:40 pm edt 

Re: Lands End

YES LAND'S END INN IS BEING SOLD. THAT IS A FACT.
7:39 pm edt 

Assessments are Quite Off Base

Depends on who you know. Sad but true. So many people believe their real estate
was correctly and ewually assessed like everyone elses. But not really. Some
gain an advantage and their properties have a deep lower assessment when others
are asessed at maximum. Less the property itsefl and more who is being assessed.
7:37 pm edt 

Seems Someone's Out to Get Austin Knight

How many building permits fail to fit the work being done? Many. I think the
work on Dixie's house looks good. What an improvement. What's really going on
here Michelle? You know. Tell.
1:16 pm edt 

Re: Austin Knight

What a joke that article in The Banner regarding Austin Knights
involvement with the property 95 Bradford Street.Why did Mr Knight take the
building permit to Town Hall ? Why did the powers that be at Town Hall accept a
permit that bwas not completely filled out ? Let anyone else try and pull that
off. I guess the pwers that be at Town Hall really think the people in this Town
are clueless. What is this strike 2 for Mr. Knight ?
10:20 am edt 

Spewing:

I have nothing against free speech or debate as long as the person presenting
the information has done thier homework and have facts to back up their
accusations. Shouting out without the facts can be hurtful and libelous. Feel
free to speak, but only speak the truth based on facts. 
10:02 am edt 

I Agree: Criticism is not Spewing and Not Hateful

It is conversation and discussion. It is presenting one point of view and I'm
glad to hear one side and then another. If someone does not agree with you, how
wrong to judge that person as spewing. No, there are many positions here and I
like to see new and different positions being presented.

This is not the town hall blog. It is citizens bringing forth their comments,
observations, questions and positions.

Bravo for that!
12:52 am edt 

Wednesday, October 6, 2010

How About Positive Expressions?

How about a pledge for one day? Everyone who posts on this Blog will
post something nice that they did for someone else. I'll start: I just sent a
check to SKIP - Soup Kitchen In Provincetown. The weather is getting cooler,
businesses are closing for the winter and there will be a lot of people who
can't afford a meal. Hope this starts something positive on this blog.

PJDP
10:50 pm edt 

Bullying

Excellent posting highlighting the responsibility each of us has to recognize
and correct instances that we see that put our young people in harm's way,
especially the subtle putdowns and insults that are laughed away by unthinking
adults and perpetuated by sitcoms. It's time we protected our children and
teenagers from this insidious threat that too often ends in the termination of
young lives and an end to the riches that could have flowed from them. What we
say matters and what we don't say often matters even more.
10:48 pm edt 

Re: Excise Tax Assessment

I don't think the person who was asking about the differences between
one kind of car and another was spewing I think they were just curious about how
taxes are determined. This can be a learning blog too you know. You sound kind
of angry about it. Maybe you work for the tax office? 

But I have to agree with a bunch of other postings here because there seems to
be a lot of randomness to the assessing in the town.
10:47 pm edt 

Re: "Here on the Blog of Hate"

I don't agree with your characterization, but if I did I certainly wouldn't keep
reading it. 

No one is forcing you.
10:45 pm edt 

Re: The Assessment Scandal
 
Ms. Lynn's property tax assessment dropped from $693,000., to $674,000., a
whopping drop of $19,000., or less than 3%. My condo dropped from $363,000., to
$330,000., just under 10%. Proportionally far greater.

The current Town Assessor does not impress me, but he is far from the worst
we've had.

No A Town Employee Never Want to Be, etc.  
10:43 pm edt 

Re: Response to Recent Suicides...

There was a very moving candlelight vigil in front of Town hall last Saturday
night. It was covered in the Cape cod Times on Sunday. But no mention here on
the blog of hate.

I fel your paIN

3:52 pm edt 

Re: The Assessment Scandal

Gee, let's assume you're right and Sharon's assessment was lowered nefariously
by $30,000. That saves her what $150 per year? I bet she's shipping that off to
her secret overseas bank account along with her other ill gotten loot.
3:40 pm edt 

Re: Lands End

I have to say the credibility of the person posting that "the rumor
about Lands End being false and untrue" is probably a Atlantic Bay realtor since
that is the same way they answered the rumors about the Brass Key when it was
being sold. Just list it pending on MLS and and be done with it, stop with the
drama.
2:05 pm edt 

Re: Dog Park and Assessments

Re: "My advice is stay away if you love your pet because it is
anything but a safe environment"


Umm, the point of the dog park is for dogs to run around together and roughhouse
together. Thousands of hours of dog fun and a couple of dogs get a nip, so what? 
the actual probability of your dog being injured is vanishingly small.

If you're that scared perhaps it is a good idea to say away.

Regarding assessments, gosh, you are probably right, they sit in those trailers
and spend all day long figuring out how to jigger the system for their own
financial gain. Then they resdesign the town web site to hide all that
corruption. I guess I better sell because this place is so corrupt. Give me a
break.

The reason some of the vitriol happens is because people post inane stupid
anonymous allegations with no actual hard evidence to back up their wild claims.
It pisses me off and they deserve scorn.
1:58 pm edt 

Re: Dog Park

I had an experience at the dog park similar to the incidences posted here.  The
place is not a safe haven for dogs.  The dog owners who frequent that place are
a bunch of nuts who don't tend to their dogs and let them run wild.  My advice
is stay away if you love your pet because it is anything but a safe environment.
1:44 pm edt 

Re: Candace vs Dog Park

Bulldozing?

Then you better include the disabilities commission, the counil on aging, the
vsb, the pbg, the chamber, the chief of police, the bos,  and the receation dept
all whom Candace and her board appeared before sought input from them and whom
all gave a written letter of support which by the way are public documents and
available at town hall.

Bulldozing? Hardly! Thank you C!!
1:36 pm edt 

No, Sharon Lynn's Assessment Dropped when Most of the Town's Assessments Went Up

Look at the patterns on real estate assessments and you not see a fair
assessment across the board. You will see special cases where the assessments
drops significantly for some select individuals and those next to them rise
significantly. The assessments, my friends, are not done according to an
objective, quantitative system but remains qualitative and thus subjective. All
you have to do is take a look through the last few years and see this. In the
past, you could more easily gain access to the town's assessments but now they
are harder to find and read. Not an accident with our newly "improved" town web
site.

Assessments remain political. Assessments remain personal. Take a look and see
for yourself.
1:34 pm edt 

Re: Lands End

I did overhear               talking about a cash deal that was being put
together on it earlier this summer.   Who knows if it is the same deal.   We
should be happy for them.
1:32 pm edt 

Re: Candacde vs Dog Park

If you are going to come out and call Candace's actions negative, at
least know how to spell the words you associate with her.
Look up TENACIOUS which is more fitting
1:31 pm edt 

Re: Lack of Civility

I don't understand the anger, incivility and vitriol that color so
many of the comments posted to this page.  Aren't people capable of expressing
differences in a civil manner?
1:29 pm edt 

Re: Auto Excise

The auto excise system is run by the state.  The state determines the
values and taxes due for motor vehicles, not the town.  Get your facts straight
before blaming the town assessor.

Real estate property tax assessments are set by the town assessor.  However, as
others have pointed out the town budget has increased even as assessments have
decreased and therefore tax bills continue to rise.

Some people are not only bitter, but they are not very well informed.  Bitter
and dumb, not a good combination.
1:27 pm edt 

Candace vs Dog Park

I don't think as many people have a problen with the Bark Park as they
do with Candace herself.  She clearly has a way of rubing people the wrong way,
always bulldozeing her agenda through.
10:20 am edt 

Re: Excise tax

Please read the law before you spew on here. Excise tax rates are set by the
commonwealth and  decline over a five year period and bottom out at a set rate
regardless of make or model. This is why a 2004 luxury car and 1992 car have the
same value.  If you have a concern about this please contact your state
legislature before trying to create an issue within the town where none exists. 
The Massachusetts general laws are readily accessable at mass.gov. 
10:19 am edt 

Response to Recent Suicides...

Joys dead.  She killed herself.  Thats the call I got at eighteen when the girl
I loved killed herself.  She struggled with her orientation and the feelings she
had for me and mine for her.  She watched as the other kids in school laughed at
me and called me dyke.  Even my cousin stood smiling when his friends were the
name-callers, silently going along with their taunts. She died, in part, because
of all this. It was too hard for her to imagine ever living as a lesbian in such
an unsafe world.  This I know from the last letter she wrote to me explaining
that while she did love me she couldnt live in a world that would never truly
accept her or me or us.  That was nearly thirty years ago.
  
Today the news media broadcast five similar stories playing out across the
country.  Fear, ignorance, prejudice and bullying have been so severe that five
young people found taking their own lives a better choice than to live with such
pain.  Thats five that we know of.  How many countless others are suffering the
same pain today?  Yesterday?  Tomorrow?  How long can we stand by while our
young people suffer in silence?  How long until all of our children are safe
from the torture of bullying, ignorance and prejudice? 

At eighteen I struggled to believe that being gay wouldnt always bring hatred,
fear and uncertainty.  I tried to believe that even though I was taunted
throughout high school and worse, oddly enough,  in college, I would one day be
free to live openly with an expectation of safety and yes, even happiness. I
still work hard to believe that. Its harder today when five more people got the
call that the young person they loved killed him or herself. I wish they could 
know that they are not alone.  That there are people who care and that one day
no one will have to hide who they are in order to live happily and safely in
this world. 

I believe that Joy was there on the other side waiting with open
arms for Tyler, Billy, Seth, Asher, and all the others that have gone before. 
She and countless, nameless others will, Im sure, welcome them to a place that
will be forever safe; forever filled with acceptance and unconditional love. And
maybe tomorrow, we as a people can begin to offer the same to those young
people in our schools, towns and families who are suffering.
10:17 am edt 

How Did Provincetown Get to be so Ugly?

Great question - here are some thoughts

Have you seen the developments that have gone up in the last several years ? 
Developers are smiling - how do you think the neighbors feel ?

Continuous Affordable housing - when does it end ? Ever walk down Commercial St
in the Winter ? Where are all these affordable housing residents ?

A town where over half the property owners have no vote or say in what happens -
yet renters who pay NO taxes to the town do and are a major influence on policy.

Board meetings that happen in the middle of the day when people that have full
time jobs can't attend ?

Board meetings that happen in the middle of the week so the second home owner
abutters can't be there ?

That is how Provincetown has become so "ugly".  It is clear that there are those
who contribute and those who simply and continuously take advantage -

That is why the struggle exists and rightfully so.
10:12 am edt 

Re: Property Evaluation

"Why, pray tell, would a 1992 crappy Volvo wagon be valued at 1800.00
(and in 6 years has never devalued!) when a friend's 2004 high end foreign
convertible be valued at 3,000.00--all according to the town?  What? Who is doing the math here?" 


I'm sure you'd like to blame your town hall employees, but let's talk facts. 
The motor vehicle excise tax is not set locally, it's set by the Registry of
Motor Vehicles.  Now you know who is doing the math.
10:09 am edt 

The Snakes Come Out at Night

Wow, here we are again three years later with someone trying to peddle the same
BS conspiracy about assessments.You were proven wrong then and retelling a lie,
no matter how many time, doesn't make it true. As was pointed out then, Ms. Lynn
had the unfortunate timing of being hired and buying a place here just prior to
the biggest real estate crackup since the Depression. Yes her assessment
dropped, as it did for hundreds of other similar condos. Yes other properties
went up but those were waterfront properties whose value was impacted by extreme
comps from west end waterfront. There is no conspiracy. In addition two
professional appraisers on Cape have told me that of all the towns on the Cape
ours does the most accurate job of assessments. If you disagree with your
individual assessment there is a procces for appealing it. Anonymous character
assassination via falsehoods is a sad way to live your life. Perhaps you should
put away your keyboard when u drink.

- not a town employee, etc
10:06 am edt 

Interesting Read
Interesting Washington Post Article on Gov Benefits

Amid backlash and budget deficits, government workers' pensions are targets
By Michael A. Fletcher

Re: Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 6, 2010; 2:45 AM

PHILADELPHIA - Faced with deep budget deficits and overextended pension plans,
state and local leaders are increasingly looking to trim the lucrative
retirement benefits that have long been associated with government employment.

Public employees are facing a backlash that has intensified with the nation's
economic woes, union leaders say, because of their good job security, generous
health-care and pension benefits, and right to retire long before most
private-sector workers.

.. See source for complete article
10:04 am edt 

Re: Lands End

Categorically untrue. No deal in the works. False rumor.
9:59 am edt 

Re-Valuation

When the valulation goes down the taxes do down also, but when you go to
town meeting and pass everything like millionares, the taxes go up. So the
valulation means nothing. You can't have both.
9:58 am edt 

Tuesday, October 5, 2010

Why Are Their Such Discrepancies in Assessments of Properties?

Look closely. You'll se favoritism and unequal treatment of assessments. It's
the secret game and is played year after year. Speak out too much and you'll see
your assessment go up. Run for some key position and you'll see your assessment
go down. Sharon Lynn's property went down the year she became town manager. It
decreased by $30,000. It was a year many other properties were assessed higher
but hers decreased significantly. And who is doing the asessments? Yup.
11:44 pm edt 

Real Estate Deal

Atlantic Bay tealty has the Lands End Inn under agreement in a secret
back door deal while the property sits falsely on mls.Another another Brass Key
dirty deal in the making?The place is being bought as a private home by a hedge
fund investor and will change hands in late November.There goes another local
guesthouse in a secret atlantic bay deal again.The rest of us brokers have to
disclose things and pend properties on mls.
 
11:39 pm edt 

Re: New Townies

Pardon me, the grandparents home was not "broken down" as you state. 
You are wrong on this and many other crude points you try too hard to make.  I
advise you take a class in manners to begin with and try laying off the juice as
well.  You know nothing about what you speak and it shows. 

Someone born and brought up here
10:08 pm edt 

Concerning Discrepancies in Tax Bills

 Listen, the tax assessors rationale has been skewered for years. Why, pray
tell, would a 1992 crappy Volvo wagon be valued at 1800.00 (and in 6 years has
never devalued!) when a friend's 2004 high end foreign convertible be valued at
3,000.00--all according to the town?  What? Who is doing the math here?  It's
good for the friend but bad for any of us who hold on to our old cars. But the
fact is it's even worse for the town because the excise tax is a total sham,
calculated with no rhyme or reason clearly! So I can imagine what you all who
own even small plots of property are going through. It seems more like they're
just sending out bills willy-nilly without reason or honest accountability.
10:06 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall Rehabilitation

Crazy spending you say? Wait till you see what we didn't vote for when
we have access to Town Hall! Talk about deceived!
10:04 pm edt 

Re: Paul Gavin

Paul is a highly competent guy! He does NOT set the tax rate! Our
selectmen do! Do you remember he bravely stepped up at the last town meeting to
oppose cagey Selectman Knight trying to tell us Sanaiko's property was worth
more? We would have paid more for his little garden that no one knows where it
is, if it hadn't been for Paul Gavin!
10:03 pm edt 

Dear "Sickens Me"

Don't think Mr Gavin is trying to screw you over.  He's doing his job.  Even
though your property may have gone down in value, taxes still need to be raised. 
The total amount needed to be raised (which is what was voted on at town
meeting) is spread out over all the town's assessed property.  Every property in
town is reassessed every three years.  That's how it's done.  No one's trying to
screw you.
10:01 pm edt 

Our Tax Bills Went Up When Our Properties Increased In Assessment

Yet they have not gone down when our assessments have dropped. This is the
unfair town hall, Paul whatever his name assessor's joke on all of us. Our bills
should be lower because all our values have decreased. But no, they then
increase the tax rate since they are drug addicted to our taxes. they are
addicts who need and feed on us. Stop the big projects and crazy spending. Let
us all have reasonable bills.

We need a new asessor. Someone who knows real estate and is not in the pocket of
the town. "We need this much this year" OK, he says, and then writes us our
bills. Get him out. He has little skills and is not there for residents but for
the town hall emporium. Sickens me, really.

5:33 pm edt 

Words to the Wise

"The recent deep recession and the subsequent slow recovery have
created severe budgetary pressures not only for many households and businesses,
but for governments as well. Indeed, in the United States, governments at all
levels are grappling not only with the near-term effects of economic weakness,
but also with the longer-run pressures that will be generated by the need to
provide health care and retirement security to an aging population. There is no
way around it--meeting these challenges will require policymakers and the public
to make some very difficult decisions and to accept some sacrifices. But history
makes clear that countries that continually spend beyond their means suffer
slower growth in incomes and living standards and are prone to greater economic
and financial instability. Conversely, good fiscal management is a cornerstone
of sustainable growth and prosperity."

Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernake, October 4, 2010

3:49 pm edt 

Re: Tax Bill

"My tax bill is over $5,000.00 and it is due October first--but it
arrived yesterday arrived October 4th. Is this an error? Is it due October first
or November first?"


It's due November 1st.
1:42 pm edt 

Chapter 91-The Joke's on Us!

Re: "We should purchase more and more land and we
should also be stricter in enforcing Chapter 91 rules that would allow more of
us to gain access to the beaches from Commerical Street throughout town."


Hooray for that one, Chapter 91 seems a paper tiger. Owners get their license
then do everything they can to subvert at no cost because there is no
enforcement. Witness the west end where one set of very politically connected
owners grew thorny plants right where their chapter 91 license says should be an
open path. They only display the access sign in midst of winter and all summer
they block their mandated access gate with cars and plants. Is there any
enforcement, NO, because they have local, state and federal legislators and a
few local board members in charge of this stuff in their pocket. Chapter 91 is a
joke.
10:54 am edt 

Tax Bill Sent Out Late

My tax bill is over $5,000.00 and it is due October first--but it arrived
yesterday arrived October 4th. Is this an error? Is it due October first or
November first?
10:51 am edt 

Land Bank is For Us to Purchase Land

We can't sit and wait for someone to "donate" land to the town. The town can't
managed its buildings and properties so "donating" could mean many things
without the Open Land committee. We should purchase more and more land and we
should also be stricter in enforcing Chapter 91 rules that would allow more of
us to gain access to the beaches from Commerical Street throughout town. We
allow too many owners to bypass the Chapter 91 rules and fail to force them to
publically announce public access. Look at richard's Landing. That is open to
the public but would you know it? Hardly. Where's the public signs announcing
access to the gardens and to the beach from Commercial Street? Where indded!
12:12 am edt 

Monday, October 4, 2010

Dog Park:

First off, if I was at the dog park with my small dog in the correct area of
play and there was someone in that area with a large dog, you bet I would tell
them to leave.  I would have no problem with a confrontation and from there I'd
phone the police. 

Tell the ignorant people to read the signs and let everyone enjoy the park... 
Some people just think they can do what ever they damn well please....

Let's obey the rules of the park for everyone's enjoyment.....
10:31 pm edt 

Town Without Pity

How did Provincetown get to be so ugly?
9:20 pm edt 

Town Without Pity

Apparently you missed both kindergarten class and first grade, where basic rules
of conduct were taught. Funny you should think that parking restrictions do not
apply 24/7, whether you have a handicapped placard or not.

How would your entitled friend have felt being unable to park in a handicapped
spot because someone had parked there without a permit --- albeit for only a few
minutes? Would your handicapped friend have been frustrated having to drive
around the block a few times, hoping another handicapped person didn't grab her
spot? After all, the person who illegally parked was only going to be there for
a few minutes. What's the big deal?

Rules are mandated for everyone to follow. Just because you think you are
entitled does not entitle you to ignore the rules. Pay the $50 ticket and learn
the lesson you failed in kindergarten.




7:49 pm edt 

Suzanne's Garden -

Why would someone donate land to the town when they
can get paid for selling it? Pretty simple to me: Because they can afford to
make the donation to the town and don't need the money. That may or may not be
the case of Suzanne's Garden, but I'm sure there are many in Provincetown that
will be able to donate land in the future and not ask the town to buy it. Some
people are more well off then others,and truly love this town and open space.
Those are the people I would expect to donate land. Others need to sell the land
to survive, those are the people I would think the town would by from.

PJ
7:47 pm edt 

Re: Dog Bully -

I did report it to the police department. Thanks for
the support.
7:45 pm edt 

Re : Leather Skirt

Well??? Is she going to get one?
6:46 pm edt 

Re: New Townies

A townie is a townie. Born and raised here. The so called new townies are
washashores. The reason that so many of the TOWNIES couldnt keep their property
as nice as you new townies was because they were to busy trying to raise their
children while their loved ones went out fishing to pay the bills. So dont go on
about how they let the town go to ----. They didnt have the conveneince of two
incomes with no children to bring up as most of you do today.
3:55 pm edt 

Re: Dog Park Bully

Sam you should have reported your dog being bitten at the dog park and
the unpleasant encounter you had. A few aggressive dogs of irresponsible dog
owners have been banned from the dog park as I know the dog park directors and
the Animal Control officer have done just that working together to have a safe
park for the dogs to excerise and socialize off-leash.

By not reporting it, you quite frankly put other dogs at risk of being bitten by
the same dog too. Most likely the dog you are speaking of has been banned anyway
because dogs just don't bite once. Someone most likely did report it.

I hope you and your pooches will come back to the dog park!

3:09 pm edt 

Re: Alden Street Taxis

Monday Alden Street gridlock; had to go around a white car, a maroon
cab, and a green pick up in the no parking zone.  Just did not want to fall
behind on my weekly reports.
3:07 pm edt 

My Problem With Suzanne's Garden

f Mr Sinaiko wanted to preserve his mother's beautiful garden, he should have
donated it to the town.  Instead he 'threatened' the town with building on the
space if we didn't purchase it.

What ever happened to donating land to conservation.  Ruth Hiebert bought a
butt-load of land around Shank Painter Pond to preserve the view from the home
she built there and because she cared about the environment around the pond.  Is
there even a plaque recognizing her generous gift?

Now that we have opened the door to purchasing 'gardens', why would anyone EVER
donate land again when they can be paid for it?

The Open Space Committee has a map (public document) which shows all the land
they are interested in pursuing in the future.  Why would anyone who owns any of
that land ever even think of donating it to conservation when all they have to
say is "either you buy it or we'll sell it to a developer". 

If that's the case, Open Space should just come up with a dollar figure for all
the land (since it is a finite number) and present it to the voter's in the
spring town meeting and be done with it once and for all.  Then we can eliminate
the Open Space Committee and the Land Bank and just let the Conservation Trust
maintain the land.
3:05 pm edt 

Leather Skirt

My 84 year old co worker who is a mother and grandmother who grew up here
arrived at work saying that she saw a wonderful pleated leather skirt on a
guy--and she wants one.

I replied, that isn't a skirt, it is a "gladiator kilt". Doesn't matter--she
wants one--how can she get one? (Not one word about a guy in a skirt of the
other leather guys in town--just taken with a fashion--now that is being open
minded).

Co-worker who is still laughing.
3:03 pm edt 

Re: No New Townies

Boy, my grandparents would have LOVED someone knocking on their door
with a suitcase full of cash! Sorry that it was so hard for your grandparents to
be given twenty times what they paid for their broken down home...
And by the way, believe it or not, families from other parts of the world with
no fishing industry actually worked for low wages in dangerous conditions
(miners, police men in big cities, factory workers, housekeepers, etc.)
Your whole "sitting home watching for the lights" sob story is so typical of the
old timers here who think that their experiences in ptown were so so much harder
than every other American Story... wake up! ALL our grandparents suffered
(unless perhaps your last name is Vanderbilt or Kennedy), the big difference?
Yours wound up with a million dollar house to sell out; while mine just had an
apartment worth nothing, that they rented rather than owned outright... cry me a
river on your way to Grampy's shiny new McMansion in Harwich. Not saying it
wasn't tough to lose a loved one at sea and my heart goes out to you for that,
but to think that no one else shared a similar history just because their
ancestors worked in another part of the world doing another dangerous job? That
is simply "Old Provincetowners Hubris"... get over it and count your blessings
that your family owned the home they lived in (even if they never did any basic
upkeep on it)
3:01 pm edt 

Sunday, October 3, 2010

Glad We've Got Suzanne's Garden

Good to have that piece of land to sit and think; to relax and relish the
surrounding beauty. It's a good use of monies that keeps that piece of land from
being developed and thus is there for all of us to use. We need to purchse more
pieces of land smack dab in the middle of everything. It's realy fabulous to
have and enjoy.
10:41 pm edt 

Mates Leather Weekend

This is why I love Provincetown, seeing gay men walking down the street and
socializing in full leather and or eating in one of our great restaurants and
right next to them is a family of 4 with 2 beautiful children enjoying lunch and
or dinner without batting an eye. Thanks to Rick Conley, all the year round
bars, the VSB and our year round guest houses and restaurants for this great
weekend in October.
10:06 pm edt 

Town Without Pity

Is revenue from parking tickets so desperately needed that an elderly woman with
a handicapped person placard can't park close to her door for five minutes in
late September while she unloads her groceries without getting a $50. ticket?
Right and wrong are neither fully defined nor limited by legal and illegal.
10:05 pm edt 

Re: There Are no "New Townies"

True locals or townies were born and
raised in Provincetown.  They obviously feel a sense of entitllement because
they have weathered the storms, lost loved ones in the most dangerous profession
in the world that was the backbone of the town, rode this town through the
storms.  Bitterness, you have no idea.  Artists were important but the fishing
industry kept the town alive.  Do you have any idea what it's like to know  it's
midnight and all the boats are back in port except your father's and the wind is
blowing a gale with sideways snow and there aren't any cell phones or internet
or ways to contact him because the CB radio is out.  So you wait and wait and
pray until someone sees a light or something and you know you'll see your father
or brother another time.  They made it again.  When a family chooses to sell out
it's not a choice made easily.  To take what you can get in the face of a dying
livelihood is no crime.  My parents, wh!
en contemplated selling, were approached one fine summers day by two men with a
suitcase of cash.   They sold the house the next day with heavy hearts.  The
house has 6 condos now.  I suppose that's their fault also.  Check out the
people who make millions developing cheap units.  Look at Bangs St. for the
perfect example.  Funny, a townie was denied building one house here before by
the same people who allowed their buddy to stick up 4 now.  Give me a break.  At
least in the Ptown of old you could lay on a towel in front of the Surf Club
without laying in crap or a dead condom. 
10:04 pm edt 

Sinaiko vs Bedard

...but I would take one David Bedard over five Johnny Sinaiko's any
day!!!  signed, a newcomer 'outsider' who has "only" lived here for sixteen
years, so what could I possibly know?


Well said, you hit the nail squarely on the head.

10:00 pm edt 

Town Hall Renovation

This thing with the chairs at Town Hall really annoys. It is all just
political maneuvering. Just a plan hatched between them all  Sharon Lynn and the
BOS claim they didn't put enough money in the renovation budget  for chairs as a
way of keeping the costs down. And it did keep the cost down, by the cost of the
chairs. But did they leave anything else out? Did they leave out central A/C?
Did the reuse old light fixtures? Did they leave out refinishing the floors? Did
they leave out all brand new computers? Did they leave out a new copying
machine? Did they leave out a brand new chair for Sharon Lynn, and ever other
chair in the building except for OUR chairs? You see, they knew that at the end
of the renovation, someone would come forward and decide that we really need
those chairs and would start a campaign to replace them.  Which has happened.
And if we question them as to why replacement wasn't included in the upfront
budget they get to look like heros when they!
  say it was done to keep the cost down for the taxpayer. But they knew full
well those chairs needed replacement. I say no private money for chairs, make
the BOS and Sharon Lynn find the money to replace them, and make it a part of
the real cost of the renovation. Remember, Sharon Lynn is getting a brand new
chair!

A Rat In The Basement
9:59 pm edt 

Dog Park

Sand + rain = a dirty dog
it s the perfect combo of material in the park something for everyone incliding
the handicapp
9:57 pm edt 

Dog Park

To the person having a problem at the dog park with the greyhounds.
Last year, I brought my two dogs, 15lbs and 20lbs to the dog park to run around.
I wanted to go into the small yard but some guy was in there with his two "very
mean" dogs. I asked him if I could come in and he said, "Not if you want your
two dogs to get hurt." So, instead of having a confrontation, I went over to the
big side with my two dogs. Both of my dogs have been through dog training
classes and are well socialized, never having any problems with other dogs
around town. Not, two minutes into letting my dogs off leash another dog came
after my 20lbs 6 mos old puppy and starting growling, chasing and biting him. I
picked up my puppy and the other dog started jumping on me and growling. I asked
the woman to leash her dog,her reply was, "this is a dog park, dogs are supposed
to play." I asked her again to leash her dog and she said,"No. Just let them
work it out." When I told her that her dog wa!
s being aggressive, I thought she was going to attack me. My dog was petrified.
So I leashed my dogs and left. When I got home, I noticed my dog's ear was
bleeding where he had been bitten.

Needless to say, but I don't go to the dog park anymore unless there are no
other people there. I'll use it in the winter more often, but I don't have the
energy to deal with some idiot pet owners who don't have a clue how to be a dog
owner.

Sam
9:56 pm edt 

I Will Contribute

For the couple of people who complain about a privately funded dog
park on an effluent field, how about turning the vacant and unused effluent
field abutting the east side of Jerome Street?

If your idea gets the approval to proceed, I will contibute 10 percent of the
capital requirements.
9:52 pm edt 

ADA Compliant

Ever been to the beach and walked barefoot on a hot summer day? How
come the blogger could care less about the tens of thousands it cost in cement
to make both sections ADA approved including its two entrances and two
fountains? Including the new ADA approved public drinking fountain at Town Hall?


None of our childrens' parks are handicapp accessible are they? Is Sanaiko's
park?
9:51 pm edt 

Here Are My Two Cents on the Dog Park:

I am a seasonal "non-resident" property owner.  I have donated to the park prior
to its construction and I put a couple bucks in the box almost every time I
visit. I think it is a great place to bring my dog for canine socialization. The
only issue I have had is with few people I have seen in action or met there who
seem to think they are the self-appointed dog police. 

I monitor my dog's (a friendly, non-aggressive 25 pounder) behavior and pick up
after it.  I don't need to be monitored and questioned by other park attendees
who seem to want to shift blame for their own dog's anti-social behavior on
others.  Two in particular come to mind;  A couple with two greyhounds. 

Their dogs are muzzled and get aggressive when other dogs sniff around them. 
Their dogs growl and get aggressive and the owners try to blame the other dogs
for their own dog's behavior. 

Here's a clue!  Dogs sniff each other.  It's how they behave.  If your dogs need
to be muzzled at a dog park, maybe the aggression problem is with your dogs. 
Maybe the dog nazis can have another sign/rule added to the dog park fence.  "If
your dogs need to be muzzled, keep them home."

In the mean time, when the two with the muzzled greyhounds and the yellow SUV
are at the park, I'll just keep driving.         
10:49 am edt 

Let's Come Together

The hate in this town is so thick you could cut it with a knife. It
seems once again the "townies" vs. "second home owners" have reared it's ugly
head. Let me point out that many of the townies have chosen to sell off family
homes, land or other inherited properties for a fast buck and then have high
tailed it out of town. The second home owners are people who just happened to
have some money to buy a second home and are being blamed for all of the ills of
the town.

The second home owners have paid millions upon millions into the town for all of
the town services of which every town residents avails themselves. Without the
second home owners, many of the homes in Provincetown would have gone into
foreclosure or better yet been bought up by developer who would come in and
destroy the town even more.

Let's work together as one town and not be so divided. We all have one thing in
common; we all love Provincetown and enjoy spending time here.
10:47 am edt 

Long Live the "New Townies"!

The old timer townies were a bunch of losers who let the town tumble down with
deferred maintenence; who allowed numerous back room and nepotism based
decisions; who never stopped patting themselves on the back for their
"tolerance" -as opposed to respect and acceptance- of the gay people in town,
old townies sold out as soon as they could and put up ugly tacky boxes to live
in in Truro after neglecting their homes here, old townies are the ones who
threaten to turn their yards into parking lots if the town won't give them a
quarter million dollars for their mommies old garden, the town hall workers who
go to work for four days a week are "old townies", the list goes on and on...
long live the wash-ashores! These New Townies (who the bitter call 'outsiders')
are fixing up the beloved town your grandparents couldn't/wouldn't do basic
upkeep on... who do you think owns the tumble down fire hazard on the corner of
Brewster and Bradford? Gee, that's right, it is owned by the old!
  townies that you think are so great... without the new blood do you really
think PTown would be even a little bit livable? I am no fan of Couture, but I
would take one David Bedard over five Johnny Sinaiko's any day!!!
signed, a newcomer 'outsider' who has "only" lived here for sixteen years, so
what could I possibly know?
10:45 am edt 

Re: Dog Park

So if sand is ok for the race track around the edge of the bark park
why is it not ok for the entire park?  Just plain idiotic.
10:42 am edt 

Enough Already!!

Move on!!! The Dog Park is there! It is a good thing! Being a Dog Friendly
resort has benefited the tourism in Provincetown! Now let's make it a Cat
Friendly town.Can;t wait to see Siegfried and Roy walk their Siberian Tigers!.
10:41 am edt 

Re "Now Dogs Count More Than Old Timers"

Perhaps that is because dogs are nicer than certain old timers like the blogger
who posted that rant against dogs and continues to be obsessed with the dog
park. $64 million in unfunded pension liability and this blog is filled with
postings about a small privately funded dog park. Obscene.
10:40 am edt 

Townie Talent

The only board majority to be made up of locals is the school
committee.  Lowest MCAS scores in the state. School closing. Now thats local
leadership no one wants but old Time Townies..
THANK God very few so called Townies  are on boards with those MCAS scores
always so lousy  Thank God none of them are on the Finance Committee. Can you
imagine how our books would look? As jumbled and incoherent as John Santos  at
the mike every other Monday night.
10:38 am edt 

Larger Things to be Concered With

All I keep reading about is the dog park and now the dog
fountain...gripe gripe. We didn't pay for the dog park (taxpayers). We don't pay
for its upkeep.It was put on unusable land and now has made the contribution of
free advertising for Provincetown Tourism in places that Provincetown could not
even afford to put ads.  The artists donated their time and projects. (The dog
is usually accompanied by adults to look at the art (to the writer who thinks
that the art was created for the dogs duh!) The dog fountain was again all paid
for privately. 
I donate to a lot of venues, one being the dog park.  It's my money and I will
do what I want with it.
If you think that your imaginary causes (called imaginary because you don't make
them a reality) need funding, create the venue. Otherwise stop your moaning and
groaning because somebody did just that.  They had made something positive
without you assistance. What is the problem.  Stop making dog parks and
fountains your cause for concern.  Turn to the BOS and focus on their poor
decisions.  $250,000 for a piece of land where no one sits? That should never
have made town meeting.
That is one red flag for me.
10:36 am edt 

Bow Wow vs Ship Ahoy!

Now dogs count more than old timers and local residents. Dogs take precedence.
That tells you something about this town. Surprising they even had a town hall
fountain for people. It almost was only for dogs! Ah life! Ah Provincetown! How
sad she has become! She is a ship without a rudder. a ship without a capable
captain. Ah Provincetown!
12:41 am edt 

But Many Locals Did Take the Money....

....and now we have a town with little real local control. It is outsiders that run
the town: look at the BOS, Look at chair of most boards. These are outsiders
pretending to be townies. Please, too many did sell and they also sold their
legacy and now we have others controlling the town. Sorry, but that is the
truth. Sad but true. Wish old timers had stayed here and had continued to
dominate the boards and the town. We would be better off and better service. But
alas that is not life as it is lived here.
12:38 am edt 

Yup. Stumblebum Couture

She is inept and can't lead. You are right: stumblebum. If she is leading
us--and she is--we are in deep financial and organizational problems. She knows
so little. She is but an embarassment.
12:37 am edt 

Town Hall Chairs

Town Hall is almost done, it has taken the last two years, but finally
it will be finished. The only concern I have is the fact that new chairs were
not budgeted for the hall. The present chairs are noisy and uncomfortable. I
read that a woman wants to raise money to buy new chairs for roughly 20K. What
can the town do to find the money to purchase comfortable chairs? Let's do this
right and not buy some cheap chair that will need repair or replacement in a few
years. Let's purchase a good, solid,comfortable chair that will last for years
to come and be in keeping with the beautiful town hall. I am amazed at this
oversight and hope things can be rectified. Maybe we can have a fund raiser and
have people's names put on the back of the chairs for donating $$$.

R. E. Cliner
12:35 am edt 

Re: Dog Park

The dog park is a place where people go to exercise their dogs and
socialize. Prior to it being built with private funds, people moaned and cried
about dogs running loose on the beaches of Provincetown.Now we have a safe place
for people to bring their dogs to exercise. Unfortunately, there are lots of
people in Provincetown who will complain about anything that happens in this
town whether its good or bad. The dog park is a positive thing that has happened
in Ptown. Someone saw a need, raised the money and put the park together. I
donate to many causes in Ptown, HOW, SKIP, CASAS, the schools and the dog park.
I have two dogs but rarely use the park. I still think the park is a good thing
for Provincetown. We've gotten great press and maybe we will get a boost in
tourism amongst the dog lovers in the world. No public funds have been used to
support the dog park, so please stop the negativity and be happy for a good
thing that happened in PTOWN.

PJ
12:23 am edt 

Future of the Cape

There was a very good segment on wcai thursday with Peter Francese as part of a
piece on how hard it is for young families on the cape. I've tried to find a
link on their website but can't. Some highlights:
- the fastest growing incoming demographic segment on the cape is 75+
- the fastest declining is those under 35, continuing huge exodus
- a mixture of workforce housing, rental, affordable purchase, etc is critical
to the future of the cape but people in towns scream as soon as they hear
affordable housing, sound familiar?
- there will be fewer and fewer younger folks to provide services all those
older folks need
- lack of jobs and affordable housing driving exodus as sell as competition
price wise from retirees and second home owners for purchase housing
- cape towns have to address waste water treatment issues as job one or no other
solutions are possible and those solutions have to have enough capacity to
handle workforce housing
- perhaps most importantly; change is coming to the cape and is happening
already, you can either dig in your heels or you can get in front of it and
shape the future but either way change will happen

Perhaps someone can dig up the link and post here. All seemed pertinent to many
things posted here.
12:21 am edt 

Town Hall Rental

When Town Hall is rented, where do those rental fees go?  There are a few of us
retired taxpayers that were always of the understanding that the town could not
be in the rental business.  Is that not why we have,for example, the Housing
Authority - the rental fees are controlled by them and not the town collecting
the funds.

If the funds go into the town coffers, perhaps a portion of it should be
deposited into the insurance fund to help us retirees who retired with the
understanding our insurance would not change.
12:18 am edt 

Dog Park

The blogger who wants the dog park to be grass is someone who spouts a
non-researched and ill informed opinion. Pea stone, 3/8ths of an inch big, is
the preferred material in a dog park. It doesn't host parasites like lyme caring
ticks, is more efficient picking up loose stools, is low maintenance and has
good drainage. The dog park has sand formed as racetracks called barkways around
the pea stone which many dogs love to chase each other around. That is why the
largest recreation magazine did a feature story on our dog park because of those
types of thoughtful elements.
12:17 am edt 

Dog Park

Not really an issue i care much about even though i have dogs. but someone asked
why is there so much hate towards it and it got me thinking. these are just
guesses but here goes.

a. some people with children are resentful when people who don't have kids put
so much money and energy into their pets. personally, i say, too bad. its a free
country. towns are losing young families all over cape cod , not just here. so
get over it.

b. Candace. could it have something to do with her? she sure has made a few
enemies. such is life when you throw bombs.
perhaps if the park was bankrolled by someone that people weren't afraid of,
they'd not be so hateful.

c. last, perhaps there really isn't that much of an issue. one person can post
15 times a day on this blog if they wish. so, you never really know.


Couldn't care less
12:13 am edt 

Re: Charities

Travel agencies, car dealerships and art galleries don't try to
portray themselves as charities.
12:11 am edt 

Re: Dog Park


That corner of Shank Painter and Rte 6 was going to be seeded with
grass after  being a staging area.  No one else stepped forward with any
suggestion of how it could be used given it was an effluent field except Candace
er. al  and her idea was brillant. Just like her dog fountain idea at Town Hall
which national media outlets have included in their stories like forbes.com,
usatoday.com and the LA Times. .
 
12:10 am edt 

Re: What is a Charity

"A charity (as I was raised to believe) is an organization that
accepts donations for those in need, those less
fortunate."

That's not the IRS's definition.  There are many organizations in town that
comply with IRS regulation 501(c)(3), and thus can solicit tax-deductible
contributions, that do not fit your definition: Monument, Art Association, Fine
Arts Work Center, Theater, Portuguese Festival, library, any church, etc. etc.

So the dog park is hardly alone in that contributions result in tax savings for
contributors if they choose to deduct their contributions.
12:08 am edt 

Saturday, October 2, 2010

11:43 pm edt 

Everyone Read 10/2/2010 Post : Mothers of Children!

This is best reality check I've ever read on this site!  Yes!  Many of those
"locals" that took the money to allow the subdividing and condo building are the
ones to blame... I love it.  Reality does bite sometime when you see who
actually kicked it all off:  the ones that sold out!
11:39 pm edt 

Dog Park Reply "Not Needed"

You obviously don't have a dog nor have been on the National Seashore when the
rangers are ticketing people for having their pet off leash.  YES... we DID need
a space for dogs to run free and to (healthily) be in play (socialization) with
other dogs.
11:23 pm edt 

Charity and the Dog Park

Thanks for the reasonable post on the dog park not really being a charity.  I
think that's a fair criticism in that those who contribute to it get a
charitable deduction for their contributions.  Theoretically based on an $18,000
operating budget this could cost the federal and state governments a few
thousand dollar.  And you are right, it really does perform or do any charitable
function.

But it doesn't really address why people are against the dog park since,
regardless, it's all privately funded.  If it weren't a charitable org, people
would still very likely contribute. Or they could charge a fee.  There are a lot
of "for pay" dog parks in the country.  Many people put money in envelopes and
don't bother with the tax deduction.

It may be viewed as a luxury, but it's a luxury that was privately funded. 
Surely you don't object when someone takes an expensive vacation or buys a high
end car or buys art in an East End gallery.  So if the dog owners want to
collectively fork out $18,000/year to have a safe environment for their dogs to
run around, who is really disadvantaged?

ps. Not all dogs can go off leash easily for a number of reasons including breed
and temperment.  And small dog owners like me worry about coyotes, which would
view my pup as an appetizer!
1:26 pm edt 

The Board of Selectmen

Re: They are not too pleased with how it is often run and what
decisions some of the slectmen make...


I wish I could pay very little in taxes, both income and property, and still get
everything I want from town, state and federal government, but realize it
doesn't work that way.

1. We vote for the Board of Selectmen.  As has been said before, most people get
the government they deserve.  Don't like the BOS, vote for someone else.
2. No funds can be spent by the town without town meeting vote.  Don't like it,
don't vote for it.
3. As a town and a country we've been living beyond our means for years. 
Unfortunately reality is starting to hit and it's time to pay the piper.  How
are we going to pay for all the debt we have accumulated, both the town and our
country?  Reality bites, but even when we begin to live within our means we're
going to have to pay some bills and commitments we made when we didn't really
have the money to do so.  Everyone is going to have to feel the pain.

I'm not always a fan of the BOS, but realize they have a difficult job to do and
don't know if I could do better.  I go to Town Meeting, don't always vote for
all the spending, but it seems most don't agree with me and the majority rules
so I have to live with it even if I don't agree.
1:24 pm edt 

Foreign Aid

Unfortunately stopping all foreign aid probably isn't going to get you much bang
for your buck.  You might want to check this out:

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I found it fascinating.  It really highlights the tough fiscal choices the US is
going to have to make going forward although I'd be all for eliminating the
wars.

Would love to see one of these for Provincetown as well.  Maybe that will be my
winter project. :)
12:24 pm edt 

Re: Dog Park

I am a regular reader of this blog. I have no pets and I couldn't care
less about the dog park one way or the other. It doesn't affect me at all.

But I think I can answer several recent posts asking why so many people post
negative comments about it.

Here is the criticism I hear most frequently around town (and no, I don't
profess to speak for everyone, I'm just repeating what I've heard from more than
one person): People seem bothered by the fact that the dog park seems to present
itself as a charity when it really isn't one. A charity (as I was raised to
believe) is an organization that accepts donations for those in need, those less
fortunate.

These animals aren't homeless and they weren't really lacking space to play in
before the park was built. The national seashore is very dog friendly.

People feel that the dog park is a luxury for the dog owners, not a charity
benefiting needy animals.

Again, I have no beef with the park. Just repeating what I've heard.

12:21 pm edt 

Re: Dog Parks

The reason that people are always hateing on the dog park is because
it is just not dog friendly!  It apeals to the human eye but dogs couldn't care
less about all that tacky so called art.  Dogs would rather be on sand or grass
instead of hot stones. 
11:35 am edt 

To: Mother of Children

Who are'they?' And why are 'they' the reason children are leaving
Ptown?  And what initiatives are you involved in to get children to stay in
Ptown?

Thanks
10:20 am edt 

To the Mother of Children

Sorry that there are not enough children to fill our schools and make them educationally viable to students.  The mini world of limited relationships was not a great educational environment for
children whether you accept it or not.  Please do not use the dog park as an
example for comparision.  What you say isn't true. The town as you called it 
did not care about the dog park and the BOS and others made it difficult to get
done.  The only thing that would have saved the school is children. They are not
here.  Are you going to blame St Joseph's next?
Put your anger away.  Look at the new road for these kids as one lined with
opportunity or they will pick up your defeatist attituse.  Kids are resilient. 
Give them a chance to enjoy it and keep your bad feelings away from them
10:19 am edt 

Dear Mother of Children

I don't know how to break this to you, but Provincetown is in its death throes
as a year-round community.

There is effectively no industry but tourism and unfortunately it is a very
short season.  It's no longer really an art colony (although kudos to the Fine
Arts Work Center for keeping a winter presence) and it is no longer a fishing
village.  Really, if you were a sensible business person, what year-round
business would you base here?  Nothing really comes to mind, does it?  The
Pilgrims didn't get the hell out of town for nothing!

It is a town of second homeowners who are here mostly in season.  They live in
land and property that the self proclaimed "locals" subdivided, sold, condo-ized
and profited from handsomely - well, at least some did.   Now they can't
understand why the town and the lifestyle that they once knew is gone and they
piss and moan about bringing back the old Provincetown - just don't stop them
from turning granny's old house into a 6 condo development.  That too is their
"right."  Luckily for them they cling to the vestiges of power and the lucre
that comes with it because the people who essentially control the economy don't
live here year-round.  It'd be funny if it weren't sort of pathetic.

With no year-round community to speak of and no winter jobs, Provincetown has
become mostly inhospitable to families.  So, the schools are closing and we're
well on our way to being Nantucket or any of the other communities that really
isn't a community anymore.  Eventually, our town government and infrastructure
will shrink more to reflect that reality.

You may have wanted to raise your kids here 20 or 30 years ago, but there's
really no point now, is there?  Instead of blaming it on the dogs and the people
who care about them, you might want to ask yourself who allowed all of these
condos and subdivisions and the destruction of town.  Hint:  It isn't the second
homeowners, but if blaming them makes you feel better, knock yourself out.

Yours,

Reality Bites
10:17 am edt 

Dog Park

I don't really understand the Dog Park hate.  The land has pipes running
underneath it and was unsuitable for building or any other useful purpose.

The park was privately funded.  If you look at the names on the bricks, I
recognize many of those people as contributors to other charities in town as
well.  I don't see how supporting a Dog Park and supporting any other charitable
organization are mutually exclusive.

I use the Dog Park a few times a week and there are always other dogs there
except maybe in February, but there's nobody around anywhere in February.  Go at
8-9 AM and again at around 5 and you'll usually see a full parking lot.

So, (1) it was privately funded, (2) the land that wasn't usable for other
purposes has been put to use and (3) it's garnered some positive press for the
town.

Why is it in this town that when something good happens to some people, the
immediate reaction isn't to say "hey, that's great," but instead to say "this
must be bad for me or the town?"  Really?  How exactly? Please be specific as I
would genuinely like to understand how anyone is harmed or disadvantaged by the
Dog Park.
10:15 am edt 

Alden Street Taxis Co.

To the poster that wrote about the white bus parked on Alden Street. 
We (on Bradford) feel your pain.  We have had their pink floral bus parked near
our place several times.  Wait until (unless yo had this last night) they run
the motor and keep it idling, spewing toxins and with the back up "beeps" going
on and on and on.  To answer your question--no, there does not see to be
recourse--they seem to be the teflon cab company
10:14 am edt 

Some Seem to Ask More of the BOS than They Have Lately Given

It takes work to lead. It takes knowledge and understanding issues. You have to
read and you have to think.You can't just blabber on as Michele Couture seems to
do. The board just lacks professionalism. They would be a laughing stock in
Wellfleet or Orleans.

We deserve better.

Look at the work that Gabby Hannah does or Rabinowitz or Chris McCarthy or Candy
Boden does. If anyone of these women were chairing the BOS, we'd be in a
stronger and more future-oriented position. We'd know where we're headed. But
Couture is a stumblebum. Maybe it's not her fault, but she is a woman riddled
with cliches.
10:10 am edt 

What I Love About This Blog

Yes, some of the insults are stupid. I generally skim right over them. And some
of the remarks are old and boring. I skim right over those too. But what i love,
is that any person can put a comment if they wish, and put it up for all to
read. That's pretty cool. In the old days, you had to have your own newspaper to
do that. Now, anyone can post here. Some of it is not worthy of my time. But in
general i can check the blog everyday and see what people are talking about.
Yes, i do wish people would use it for more thoughtful discussions. But i do
learn things here, sometimes way before i read about it in the paper. So, who is
going to run for Michele's spot next spring?  That would be interesting. To find
a candidate with ethics and a brain, oh and hopefully retired and not in
conflict. What are we going to do to get people to vote on November 2? The
national republicans are dumping tons of money into the congressional race. are
we going to sit on our hands or are we going to!
  go out and get people to vote?
Do you really want Jeff Perry as your congressman? What an embarrassment.  Now,
lets see if anyone is interested...or are you just going to post about dogs and
...dogs.


Slippery Clam
10:09 am edt 

Some Thoughts

If the feds stopped all foriegn aid we could stop all forclosures
china does not need our help us first
10:08 am edt 

Personal Hits/Open Letter

I second the motion of these bloggers.  Resorting to name-calling is so
unnecessary.  This blog's mission is  "...to educate, promote and encourage
citizen participation in town government. Your support is critical to this
effort. Together we can all make a difference."  Maybe if we follow this
mission, we could actually get something done for the good of Provincetown and
its citizens.  I think the webmasters would agree.
10:06 am edt 

Friday, October 1, 2010

Seems Many Who Blog do Care About This Town

They are not too pleased with how it is often run and what decisions some of the
slectmen make, but that does not equate with thrashing or lack of concern.
Criticism comes from care in many situations and that's what I often hear on
this blog.
5:01 pm edt 

Closed For the Season

See that is just how this town works they care more for the dogs than
they do to the kids of our town.  No wonder all the familys are leaving and the
schools are closing.  Soon you will see a sign on route 6 CLOSED FOR THE
SEASON!!!


Mother of Children
5:00 pm edt 

Personal Hits

As a blog reader, I too am discouraged by the personal hits thrown at
a few people (Ms. Couture, Ms. Nagle, etc.) ad nauseum.  These comments serve no
real purpose other than to relieve the hot pressure building in the small brains
of the same few who dole them out "anonymously".  That being said, the
derogatory and insulting statements shown here do illustrate an important point. 
This is the mentality of this town.  When issues of real importance visit the
blog, they are discussed and this discussion is usually followed by a healthy
banter.  Inevitably the discussion then turns sour and the insult show begins. 
Late at night, bottle in front of me instead of a frontal lobotomy.  Although
the difference here is negligible.  Happens every time.  Every topic I have seen
on here ends with insults.  People in this town are simply not capable of other
means of expression.    Anonymous tough guys fester here.  Typical of why the
same people keep stepping on the other sa!
me people while the other same people stand by and clap... and the beaches
smell bad, the roads are a mess, we need Truro's water and people who have been
waiting on lists watch other people move right in and we clearly need as much
new construction as the developer cartel can truck in under the cover of
darkness.  and those who did the dog park did a GREAT job.  Thank you to them. 
and anyone else who is working hard so Ptown has a future not filled with cookie
cutter houses and dirtier beaches.
4:58 pm edt 

Sandbox Skills

Lately I have been reading this blog and all I seem to find on it is
people who have a lot of distain for this town and the people who try and make
it a great place to live.  It's time to put up or shut up and move if your not
willing to do anything to change it. Christ my son had better sandbox skills
then most of you bloggers.

2:20 pm edt 

Open Letter:

Dear Webmaster:

Why are you encouraging and abetting violation of your stated policy plastered
all over this blog: "Please avoid using profanity or derogatory statements"? As
an avid reader and occasional contributor I respectfully request that you
refrain from posting all further derogatory postings of Michelle Couture's name.
It is offensive to women in general and in clear violation of your stated
policy. Criticism is fine but ad hominem 3rd grade level derogatory statements
demean you, your blog and your readers.

Sincerely,

A reader
2:18 pm edt 

Re: Town Hall

Why Would You Rent Tow Hall in December When You're Only Moving in Mid
November?

Wouldn't it make more sense to see how everything is working out and to assess
any problems? Shouldn't you spend enough time inside before renting it
imemdiately?

If this town were a corporation, it would be in Chapter 11.
2:17 pm edt 

Re: Dog Park Underutilization

There is only one reason for the "seeming" underutilization of the dog
park in the summer---lack of shade.  I know that the board of the park and the
town have been talking for MONTHS about a possible solution and hopefully one
will be devised.  In the meantime---mornings and evenings it is quite the
gathering place for the town's dogs and folks who love them.
11:16 am edt 

Maybe There are Many Good Reasons Many do Not Like KootHer

She is a poor leader and has little understanding of the consequences of most
actions she heralds. She is a small-minded and small thinking person that does
not help this town. I understand why many are against her and wait for May 2011
when she is finally out of there! Time to celebrate that event! We can rent Town
Hall for that grand party!
10:38 am edt 

Re: Name

The best things in life are not things. Most of us are just happy with who and
where we are. "Judge not lest ye be Judged sayeth the Lord"
10:36 am edt 

I Frankly Agree with Mr. Murray

He is right and understands how dysfunctional the BOS can be. They should leave
all wine and beer issues to licensing. What's next? Wine and beer in the
Library, the Recreation department building, Grace Gouveia building and the
firehouse restrooms?
10:35 am edt 

Re: Name

To waitresses and waiters all over town and people with whatever type
of car you are correct and I apologize, yours is a great and honorable
profession. Seems a different life path than newspaper or hotel owner but no
less worthy.
10:34 am edt 

Effluent Field

What knucklehead thinks an effluent field is valuable real estate?
What is useless land that can t be built on has become a tourist and resident
resource. Rest assured the blogger  is busting with sour grapes!  LOL
10:32 am edt 

Re: "Name"

Shame on you " now either don't work or are waitresses "
Wow, you must get dizzy when your pedestal sways in the breeze.  There is
nothing wrong with being a waitress.  It is an honest, hardworking profession. 
You owe waitresses all over town an apology.  Hope they don't find out who you
are or you might find a special sauce in your next meal.   
10:17 am edt 

Re: Dog Park Underutilization

No the soccer field, Suzanne's garden, waterfront  and skateboard park
are the most underused re in town...
10:14 am edt 

Suzannes Garden

Thank you, PJ! I wasn't initially behind the purchase but enough were that it
passed! HOW CARTHOTIC WOULD IT BE for all The Couture haters & grossly negative
complainers to get out there & dig...dig till ur so tired ea day that that hate
melts away!  Gardening is healing, soothing & can calm you as you toil to make
something POSITIVE grow ... Which u get to enjoy!  Try it... You'll like it! :-)
10:12 am edt 

Wrong Decision Post : See Poor Thinking Post!!!!
 
THIS IS EXACTLY CORRECT!!!  This is a large venue which is cost prohibitive to
those wanting smaller venue for weddings & smaller group needs! BOS got it right
this time & Licensing board understood this when changing their bylaw wording to
allow.  Special permits will still go b4 licensing. 
10:10 am edt 

Dog Park - Under Utilized?!

Who's the "ninny" that wrote that!?  It's so busy on most afternoons (even now
in shoulder season) that the parking lot is full!! More people are using than
ever!  This was single handedly the best thing PTown has had happen in decades &
through PRIVATE FUNDRAISING to build & maintain!  No more about dog park! It's
here to stay & is more beautiful than huge cities w/huge budgets! Cheers & MANY
THANKS TO CANDACE & Friends of the park & canine lovers everywhere. This town
was founded with dogs & it's as deserved as anything else here!  So no more!!
THIS IS A TRIUMPHANT SUCCESS!!
10:08 am edt 

Cab Situation on Alden Street

I've not written a thing about the Cab Situation on Alden street until
now, even though I live down the road a bit. However, just now, at 11:40 pm on
Thursday night, they've parked a white painted school bus just outside a house
on the street. Huge thing, extending beyond the "normal" width of a parked car.
Yes, it's likely legal but it's right at the ass-end of a car that will have to
be driven in the morning and one can't see around the bus to back out safely.
How long will this stay?  They've been parking buses all summer on Alden and
it's getting a little irritating. That thing may sit for a month without moving
and we have no recourse. Or do we? 

Calling all Doctors to reign in their children.

10:06 am edt 

Re: Wrong Decision

The BOS is not giving out beer and wine licenses.  And you're right, the
Licensing Board is the only authority to issue these licenses.  Which they have
done to any caterer who holds a pouring license.  The BOS is allowing a caterer
with a license to serve on town property which is their right.

If I host a wedding at my house and hire a caterer who will be serving beer and
wine, should I also have to go before Licensing?
10:04 am edt 

The Beer and Wine Thing...

Listen, in other parts of the civilized world when you attend a concert, during
intermission you can move to the lobby and purchase a glass of whatever and
spend 15 minutes enjoying a fine reprieve from the show. Here, it seems, every
pea-pod idiot who is fearful of his "loss" is up in arms about the proposed new
improved venue that may come to town hall. Really?  Perhaps if you were a
proponent of good theater, fine music and great performances over greed then you
would lobby for this instead of being penny stupid and pound stupider. Figure it
out boys: good cheer, good business, good feeling about growth of art and
culture gives you a head up in your little last-legal-    -      world.

Careful now, it's a new way of thinking! But it will work. And you will lose
nothing in supporting the effort except your dignity and your standing if you do
not recognize that Ptown needs a grand venue--which we, the people, have paid
for in spades. And one we can attend without the sad Ten Dollar crappy plastic
drink that you currently offer. 
10:03 am edt 

Re: "Name"

I have to say, I'm a little offended by the recent post by a blogger
who lists waitress amid a list of what he or she perceives to be life failures.

Although I have never waited tables, I know plenty of good, intelligent, honest
and yes, happy folks who do. I don't think this profession is a last refuge for
people who have otherwise failed in life as this person seems to be implying.

I do however, drive what some might consider to be a "broken down" car. It isn't
and never was a luxury vehicle. It has a few dings and is more than a few years
old. It runs well though. It gets me where I need to go, and most important:
it's paid for. I own it.

I don't see this as a failure and I don't see myself as bitter. I'm quite
content with my life and my situation here in Provincetown.

Money and power don't always equal success. I think happiness is the best
measure of success and I know a few waitresses who drive crappy cars but are
infinitely happier than some of the rich and powerful folks who run this town.
9:56 am edt 


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