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Saturday, January 31, 2009

Provincetown's Plethora of Embarrassment in 2008 Headlines:

*Police Department brutalize radio DJ
*Sexual harassment complaint filed against selectman
*Volunteer firefighter totals Provincetown's only ladder truck

Will this town's bitterly scandalous history let us down in 2009 or
will be be rich with controversy as usual? Will 2009's headlines
include:

*Pier Corporation's accounting practices investigated?
*Board chair and local realtor accused of sexual misconduct at local
nightclub?
*Affordable housing cartel exposed?

Be sure to pick up your local paper and see for yourself.

Watching & Waiting
10:36 pm est 

Re: Fed up With Schools

30 miles up the road Nauset offers evening classes just hop on
a bus or carpool if it's nothing to send our children 30 miles up
the road I'm sure you wont have a problem with it.  fed up with
cry baby's
10:32 pm est 

Hey Candace!

Did you just finish a course in fictional literature?

Starving Seagull
10:30 pm est 

Re: Fire Department Operations

***"The Fire department is the king of the "old boy network"
It has long been a private club for a select few "local guys" . It
has a long history of firefighting, but also a long history of
racist, sexist, and ignorant behaviour. Not forgetting alcholism and
drug abuse."***
*********************************************************

That's pretty far reaching. The fire departmet is a volunteer
department and they turn away very few. The ones they do turn away
are no good from the start and the rejection has nothing to do with
racism, sexism or otherwise. It's because they were troublemakers.
"Old boy netowrk"? Try volunteering and find out. Everyone works
together for the common good and thats protecting the town from fire
and emergencies. If you have any other complaints, try calling the TM
and complaining. BTW, the guy that was living in the station down in
the east end overstayed his one night by a long shot and should have
been thrown out but he was in a law suit with the town at the time
and it just would have gotten worse. He's gone and thats history now.
10:29 pm est 

Can Someone Answer My Question?

If we send all our high school students to Nauset what wil the saving be?

We pay to educate them in Provincetown at a cost...
If we bus them to Nauset what is the cost and what will be the savings?

We need exact figures to see what makes sense!  It seem to me that
sending the studens to Nauset is probably the way to go..but I want
to know what we will save when we take into account the cost of
busing, and their tuition etc...
10:26 pm est 

Re: Elias Martinez

Does anyone seriously think Mr. Martinez has $300,000 to
pay for the fire truck?  You can sue him you'd like  but what do
expect to get out of it?
10:22 pm est 

More Bull

It is not that we will pay $4 million no matter what we do. That is
the line the School Committee is using from the immense study by
Donal Murphy and Tom Coen. The School Committee dismissing all the
other information and all the other suggestions and recommendation
and then sticks their heads in the sand) or the school basement) and
keeps repeating this mantra: we have to spend this amount whatever
we do.

No. there are options and there is a way to lessen our costs
if we regionalize, rent out the buildings and bring educational
reform to this group. This is most anti-intellectual school board I
have ever seen.

Yes, we can. Change is in the air.
10:21 pm est 

Barbara Rushmore is rRght!

We can not cut anymore, the only way is for everyone to get a tax
increase! If you are one of the handfull of tax payers who do not
believe her. Maybe you should go get a job with Fox news!
10:18 pm est 

I Agree!

ALL millionaire delvelopers are bad for
Provincetown, what the owner of the Murchinson property wants to do
should be stopped.
10:16 pm est 

Re: Stimulus Payment Info Response...

The person copied this from an email going around the web. 
A feeble attempt to be clever in a post.
10:15 pm est 

To School Costs...

It does not cost 4 million dollars to educate 40 students elsewhere.
That is 100,000 each. MUCH of the cost of education is for administration
and the often ignored item, plant. 

Exactly how much do the high school and elemetary school cost for
all building and ground related items, heat? electricity? phone? etc.
Will you need superintendent...secectarIES, principal..etal too?

And don't start the children being eucationally effected by moving to
a more well-rounded and diverse system argument.  The selfishness of
the school board, superintendent and nostalgic hanger-oners is at the
very least depriving Provincetown children of the diverse educational
opportunities and experiences that they need to succeed.  Shame on
all of them and you for taking from the very charges that you claim
so adamantly to defend.

Slippery Fish (from the ivy towered fishbowl of knowledge)
10:14 pm est 

This Blog is Terrific!

With this bad economy, I didnt know how I was going to afford my 30
boat at Fishermens Wharf this summer as I pay over $10,000 each
season.

Then I read here about all the loopholes that MacMillan Pier offers
out of towners and rec boaters. Even the piers directors take
advantage!

Heck, I am going on line and getting a fishing license for tuna or
bass for just a couple of hundred bucks and qualify for one of those
$2,000 slips!

I just kick myself that all these years, I didnt know about this
little secret (that is not so little anymore).  A savings of $8,000
each year going forward is unbelievable. Its like winning the lottery!

I know you guys in Provincetown have financial woes.  Its much better
here in Brewster where I live.


Vive MacMillan Piers Loopholes!
3:40 pm est 

Only 40 Provincetown Students

The department of education states that we can tuition out the
students. We have no 6th grade and only a few students in some
classes. There are around forty Provincetown students in the high
school.

If the school committee consolidated services and had other cut backs
and was trying to decrease the budget they would have some sympathy.
It is all about maintaing the status quo--until the Dept. of Ed.
makes them regionalize.

Send all of the students to a regional school and rent out the school
building to a medical-dental etc. facility and then see where we are
financially.
3:37 pm est 

Adult Education

Can someone please tell me what ever happened to the Adult Ed classes
that used to be offered at the schools?  Haven't seen any offered in
a couple of years now.  I used to look forward to seeing all the
different classes.  Was it just too much trouble for the school
system to administer?  Seems to me they would want to make themselves
more available to everyone in the community.

Just sign me 'fed up with the schools'
2:28 pm est 

School/Town Hall Offices

I must say that not allowing the Town of Provincetown to use
available space at the near empty school is absolutely the most
rediculous thing I have heard of in years.Never mind all the B.S.
reasons(bureaucracy i bet), could someone please give me a REAL
reason why this wasn"t allowed?
2:26 pm est 

If You're Talking About Millionaire Developers

Look down from the Murchinson Property. Look at Ted Malone's property
and note how he gained it. High density boxes filled with federal,
state and town monies to jam people into affordable housing closets.
High density for him but utter scrutiny for the owner of the
Murchinson. Too close to Ted's place. Too close to other abutters.

They made certain this new owner would be held hostage to unfounded
historical regulations for a property that was not in the federal
registry. Three boards came together to make life difficult for the
Murchinson owner, while good ole Ted rips up neighborhoods, lets
horse crap pile up on Nelson Avenue to fill residents' bedrooms with
oderous smells, and then destroys any historical sense of the
projects he puts up.

If it's a millionaire issue, let's make certain we're fingering the right
millionaire and the right person who is destroying dunes, shrubs,
conservation land and Provincetown's landscape.
2:25 pm est 

Re: Stimulus Payment Info

your post isn't funny or clever. or useful. just plain xenophobic.
and at a time when the president is trying to mend fences.

and a note to all...everybody pays taxes so get off your high horses.
2:22 pm est 

Fire Department Operations

"I think that chief Trovato should be drug tested,
he has to be on drugs to think that the tax payers should shell out
$300,000. This town has enough money  problems already. The Dept had
a nice truck until Mr martinez destroyed it, why doesn't he pay for
it? can the town sue him"


Eli wasn't the first to drive a firetruck drunk...
Let's hope he is last.

The Fire department is the king of the "old boy network"
It has long been a private club for a select few "local guys" . It
has a long history of firefighting, but also a long history of
racist, sexist, and ignorant behaviour. Not forgetting alcholism and
drug abuse.

Chief Trovato rules the department with temper tantrums and rage. All
those empty firehouses are nothing but crash pads for memembers and
friends.
I'm not excusing Eli here, really, there is no excuse for what he
did...but there are reasons.
Believe me, he was only doing (drunk driving on Sunday morning) what
Provincetown Fire MEN have ALWAYS done...He treated a Firetruck as
his personal vehicle, taking his girlfriend out for a sunday spin
after a night of drinking...what he did has a LONG ptown history.
I'm just glad no one died and I think the Fire Dept should be
responsible for the cost...not te taxpayer!
2:21 pm est 

School Costs

Gee........... we are so sorry you have to pay $4 million
for the schools - do you not get it ?   The report says you will
always have to pay that amount wherever the kids go.   Do you realize
that a town has a school and god forbid CHILDREN !   Maybe you should
go somewhere where there are no CHILDREN.
2:16 pm est 

Re: Sewer Hookup

Hi, I'm looking for some information. I just received a
survey for hooking up to sewer in the East End. Would someone be able
to shed some light on the project? What are the pros and cons for me
and the community? I'm not sure what to do. I'm on a fixed income and
the $400 plus per year betterment seems expensive to me. Presently I
pay once a year to have my septic pumped out and it is in good
condition... Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Jessica
2:15 pm est 

Across the Board Reductions is the Best Solution

We have a 19 million budget, not including the school budget. We have
a deficit of $850,000. If there was a 5% across the board reduction
for each department, including the police, we would reduce the budget
by $950,000. We would not have a deficit. And we should also reduce
the schools $4 million budget by another 5% as well. That would
provide another $200,000. That would provide $300,000 extra for
FY2010.

All departments can reduce their budgets by %5 and find that we all
still get essential services. Departments could be creative in where
they cut: supplies, overtime, reduction to part-time of some
positions. And absolutely no raises, promotions, or so-called
adjustments for anyone.

Then, we would have thrash pick-up and it would not involve overrides.

Cut just a few secreatarial positions in the school, in DPW, in
Council on Aging and we have a balanced budget without overrides.

It's time management, the BOS and yes Fin Com starts thinking in new
ways. Yesterday's approach has failed. Using new financial
approaches, we can balance our budget. But every department,
including the school and the police, must participate in the
sacrifice. If we take a team approach to this financial disaster, we
will do well. If we pick and choose key individuals, while all
administrators and others feel no pain, then this will not work.
2:13 pm est 

Barbara Rushmore Does Not Get it!

It is infuriating that Barbara Rushmore accused the
selectmen of ruining Provinetown. We are in a depressionthat is why
we need to make these cutbacks.

Wages of municipal work forces are being reduced 10% in every city.
Provincetown needs everyone in town gov't to take a pay cut.
2:10 pm est 

Re: School Committee

Not only do we spend $4 million dollars a year on the
schools; the school committee refused to let the employees of town
hall use space in the empty schools to house town hall employees.

The school commitee forced the town to spend hundreds of thousands of
dollars to rent trailers, install a title 5 and take need space away
from tourist buses at the Jerome Street Parking lot to make space for
Town Hall.

Now they refuse to trim costs or redundant positions at the schools
and they want us to bear the burden of overrides.
9:08 am est 

Re: Herring Cove Village

Just drove through  Herring cove village down on Bradford
St Ext.  How did they ever get away with all those condos?  I recall
they had to change a few items so a fire truck could "turn around" at
the end of the development, but there are so many units.  And they
all are going for big bucks or big rental bucks.  Not they don't look
nice, inside and out, but in this economy, how can they do it?   Has
any sold yet?  And it looks like only 2 CLAY tennis courts remain FOR
NOW.
9:05 am est 

Re: Elias Martinez

"Re:  Not only was Martinez VERY DRUNK (four times over the
legal limit), he was very drunk at 9:30 in the morning..."
*****************************************************


Agree to your points.  Is it the 'good ole boy' network at work? 
Also think about this, a summer police officer thought it was OK to
go on a joy ride with him when he was that drunk.
9:02 am est 

Re: Ms Rushmore & Kerry Adams
 
Imagine a selectman blasting Ms. Rushmore because she is
vocal in criticsim of the selectmen as she was agrressively this week.

Ms.Rushmore you are nothing more than a DISGRUNTLED TAXPAYER! If you
weren't a taxpayer, you might have credibility!

   Kerry Adams looked foolish in his public statement Monday night 
trying to invalidate the contents of Ms. Nagle's public statement
which was questioning some of those that have gotten subsidized slips
and recommended a transparent and standard be set like it is for
affordable housing.

The next day just to drive the point home he emailed the selectmen
calling her a DISGRUNTLED FLOATOWNER.

  This past week Mr. Adams set a new low  for conduct unbecoming a
town official.
8:55 am est 

Re: Re: Re: Murchison Property

I rest my case about the pro delveloper of the Murchison
property. Using words like clown & fool, tells you where she's coming
from! I bet she loves Rush Limbough & the GOP!
8:53 am est 

Re: Re: Murchison Property

***"Because until the town put a stop on this development did the
developer put in writing what he will or will not do to the forested
land!"***

***"The pro bloger of the Murchison property must be a friend or an
investment player for the Millionaire who wants to come into town and
rape the forested land of 2 Commercial St., and just have the public
sit back and watch more high end homes pop up like mushrooms! Those
days are over, thanks to the towns committees! We will also watch the
new delvelopements next to Nelson ave. and Miller hill."***
*************************************************************

You are a clown to think the towns boards are keeping the town
"safe". They are fools. They only act when someone in the shadows
jumps up and yells. Forested land? Seriously? Have you been to the
property and seen the landscape. It's not forested and never was. And
as far as watching the buildings going up on Nelson Ave and Miller
Hill, those projects are long past the boards and they did nothing to
stop or change them. Keep hoping. Difference there is one owner, the
"millionaire" who owns Murchisons property, cares. The one driving
the Nelson Ave project is a money grubbing landlord.
12:13 am est 

On Regulatory Fees

In some towns and cities, the regulatory fees and permits do go
directly into the department that issues these fees. Provincetown set
up its own laws that takes these fees and fines and puts them into
the general fund. So the department that does most of the work of
permitting, that is involved with licensing, that handles health,
that takes care of electrical and gas, gets not one penny even as the
fees where increase in Doug Taylor's role as Building Commissioner.
So for all the work done in Community Development, no monies go to
this department. And it is this department that the BOS cut a
position last year for the FY 2009 budget. What will they do this
year?
12:10 am est 

Somehow You Lack the Understanding of What Cirtical Analysis Is

Recall is for the Chair of the board of Selectment. Recall is for any
other elected offocials who fails to heed the wishes of the publish.
Recall is for poor leadership or its lack when we are facing such
dire financial times. If you are not up to the job, then either step
down or let us recall you.

Bloggers are providing an important civic service. Theya re taking up
the promise and reality of a democracy. It is freedom of expression
and the right to criticize and denounce, depending on people's
behavior. Run for office, be an elected official and you are open to
judgment and assessment. You are not private. You are a public
official and if you fail in your responsibilities or if you have
little understanding of what your responsibilities are, then recall.

I thank all the bloggers here for their contribution to this town.
they give their time, their ideas, their perspectives. They care
about this town and when things are not working well, they step up to
the plate and give their input. They are the core of this democracy.
they help all of us better understand both the front stage behavior
of town officials and importantly backstage behavior.
12:08 am est 

Re: Where's the Fat to Trim?
 
I forgot to post about how much I like having my trash picked up and
the streets plowed. (I am not a DPW worker.) Having lived her for 25
years, I've come to take for granted that the trash will be removed
and the road cleared of snow.

Formerly I lived in Boston in many good and bad areas, the trash and
plowing services were really bad.

Think about it?
12:05 am est 

Good Governance Proposal

I would like to propose an idea for an article at Town
Meeting that would help the Town and School Committee:

Have PTV tape the School Committee meetings.

That way the public can watch first hand the School Committee making
steps to change the status quo and keep them informed of the progress
or lack thereof. It would help the School Committee that has a
challenged public image show the DOE, town officials and the public
that they are taking seriously their respondsibility to make the
necessary changes to reflect our changed demographics.

These taped and televised meetings will keep the focus and spotlight
on this important issue!
12:03 am est 

Financial Planning

BUY Long Paper Shredding Companies.
SELL SHORT the Provincetown PUblic Pier Corporation!

That's how we close the budget gap!
12:01 am est 

It Is Time For Regovsky To Put Up Or Shut Up

Hey M.R.

Reading your last 2 posts, you seem to have ALL the answers and are
now privy to the almighty microphone at the BOS meetings.
Would you please give some guidance, otherwise stop your typing
fingers. Your are making me ill.

Signed,

Seasick Landlubber
12:00 am est 

The Status Quo is History!

Peter Grasso said that it is against the law to rent out
any part of a school so, to quote, "lets put a nail in that coffin".
And now?

Governor Deval Patrick created a committee to create a way to fund
schools without raising property taxes on homeowners.

Has our School committee accepted his proposals and put them into effect?

Has the town reduced the cost of paying for the  health insurance
burden by implementing the steps outlined in the Boston Globe
editorial?

Why should the taxpayers pay the price when steps can be taken to
reduce the burden on the taxpayers--one word--continuing the status
quo.

Now the economy is in collapse and the status quo is history. Now is
the time for cut backs! Down scaling, cutting work force hours and
paid holidays.

It is a depression folks.
one who pays taxes.
11:58 pm est 

Re: Kerry Adams

Old Fogey = Kerry Adams
11:56 pm est 

English 101

"Maybe you should pack a lunch and
get on that school bus to,"
************************************

Perhaps you should board as well.

The preposition "to": primarily indicates approach and arrival, motion
made in the direction of a place or thing and attaining it, access;
and also, motion or tendency without arrival; movement toward; --
opposed to from.

VS:

"too" (t) adv.

1. In addition; also: He's coming along too.
11:53 pm est 

Re: Kerry Adams

Leave it to Kerry Adams to undercut the going market rate
for charter boats on the Cape.

Charter Boat prospect to Kerry: I can go as high as $8,000 for a slip
as I having been paying that for years in Bourne and Bismore Park
Hyannis.

Kerry: We on MacMillan Pier can do much better than that!
How does $2,139 sound to you? That's what we charged to the de facto
Charter Row tenants last year(he says proudly in his black nylon
jacket with the big PPPC emblem).

Charter Boat prospect: (pausing to do the math and thinking, uhmmmm,
almost a 400% decrease in what I have been paying) Welllll, ok Kerry,
we have a deal!

fade to black

That night the new Charter Boat tenant is celebrating with his wife
taking her out to dinner at Chillingsworth.

New Charter Boat Tenant to wife: No wonder Provincetown is faced with
huge financial deficits, lay-offs and overrides if they are all like
that guy Adams practically giving away their assets!

Fish on Big Time!
11:49 pm est 

Fire Truck Replacement

Perhaps a logical, economic view of this issue might help resolve the
concern of who should pay for the replacement of the fire truck.

If someone totals their vehicle while OUI, does the bank or lending
institution replace the vehicle?

Of course not.

Why should the taxpayers of Provincetown be asked to foot the bill
for the replacement of the fire truck?

That is why the Town has insurance.

If the Town's insurance doesn't cover the total cost of replacement
of a new fire truck, then the Town should sue the responsible parties
to recover their losses.

This situation should be remedied without burdening the taxpayers.
11:47 pm est 

Stimulus Payment Information

       This year, taxpayers will receive an Economic Stimulus
Payment. This is a very exciting new program that I will explain
using the Q and A format:

       Q. What is an Economic Stimulus Payment?
       A. It is money that the federal government will send to taxpayers.

       Q. Where will the government get this money?
       A. From taxpayers.

       Q. So the government is giving me back my own money?
       A. Only a smidgen.

       Q. What is the purpose of this payment?
       A. The plan is that you will use the money to purchase a
high-definition TV set, thus stimulating the economy.

       Q. But isn't that stimulating the economy of China ?
       A. Shut up.

       Below is some helpful advice on how to best help the US
economy by spending your stimulus check wisely:

       If you spend that money at Wal-Mart, all the money will go to China.
       If you spend it on gasoline it will go to the Arabs.
       If you purchase a computer it will go to India.
       If you purchase fruit and vegetables it will go to Mexico,
Honduras, and Guatemala (unless you buy organic).
       If you buy a car it will go to Japan.
       If you purchase useless crap it will go to Taiwan.

       And none of it will help the American economy.

       We need to keep that money here in America. You can keep the
money in America by spending it at yard sales, going to a baseball
game, or spend it on prostitutes, beer and wine (domestic ONLY), or
tattoos, since those are the only businesses still in the US.
11:45 pm est 

Hey Fogey,

Till your buddy broker, Kerry Stonewalling Adams, releases all those
insurance docs on the pier, he'll be in Ms Nagle's "Good Government
Crosshairs." Heard she just filed an appeal to his response of only
releasing seven out of 31 insurance policies of the floating docks.

18% disclosure is not going to cut it with her or Alan Cote!
11:42 pm est 

Friday, January 30, 2009

Re: Candace Nagle

"Of course, I couldn't have afforded to pay Candace Nagle's
ridiculous dockage rates either!"
*****************************************************

Well we know that posting can't be from Director Phil Tarvis who in
2006 got a recreational fishing license and paid MS Nagle $7500 to be
on her float.

Must have been before he changed insurance brokers!
5:07 pm est 

Re: Murchison Property

The pro bloger of the Murchison property must be a friend
or an investment player for the Millionaire who wants to come into
town and rape the forested land of 2 Commercial St., and just have
the public sit back and watch more high end homes pop up like
mushrooms! Those days are over, thanks to the towns committees! We
will also watch the new delvelopements next to Nelson ave. and Miller
hill.
5:04 pm est 

Re: Elias Martinez

Not only was Martinez VERY DRUNK (four times over the legal
limit), he was very drunk at 9:30 in the morning.

Can you tell me no one knew he liked to drink to heavy excess?

Can you tell me that no one ever considered this isn't a young man
who should be out driving town equipment?
4:26 pm est 

Dear Candace Nagle -

Aren't there 4 other members of the Pier Corp? Why is your venon only
spewed at Adams? Maybe it's because he had the guts to say what was
really going on? If you truely do care as much as you say you do,
then why don't you look at all of the town's finances instead of just
the town pier? Better yet, put your name in for FinCom! You're not
fooling anyone!

Old Fogey
4:24 pm est 

Michael Rogovsky Quoting Chapter 40 Section 3 of Massachusetts General Laws:
 
I called the legal department of the Department of Education and
spoke with a lawyer months ago to inquire if we could rent space from
The shcool to house Town hall employees while the Town Hall was
undergoing renovation. The lawyer directed me to section 3 of Chapter
40.

I went to the selectmen's meeting and quoted this from Chapter 40
Section 3 the Massachusetts General Laws:

"Notwithstanding the provisions of this section, a city or town, with
the approval of the school committee, may rent or lease....and, with
the approval of the commissioner of education, surplus space in a
school building in actual use to any one or more public or private
profit-making businesses or nonprofit organizations; provided,
however, that joint occupancy of a school building in actual use as
such shall not interfere with educational programs being conducted in
said building."

It was my hope that the employees of town could have moved into the
school and thus save the town $250,000 in trailer rentals, title 5
etc. during the renovation.

The school committee refused to entertain such an idea and went and
got a lawyer. They also didn't want the town to hold elections in the
school. But our town counsel prevailed on that score.

Michael Rogovsky
4:22 pm est 

Re: Union Furlough

Why only ask union members to take a fulough for the good
of the town. Why not management as well?
4:17 pm est 

Re: Candace Nagle

"I too, want to support Mr. Adams in these attacks. He
accepted my fishing license in 2008 which was a three day
recreational license. I saved about 6K because I didn't have to pay
the Fishermen's Wharf rate.  That money allowed
me to put a new addition on my second home.

See you all next summer"
**********************************************************

Of course, I couldn't have afforded to pay Candace Nagle's ridiculous
dockage rates either! I suppose maybe she's angry that she might lose
a tenant or two? Why else would she keep blathering on here?
4:15 pm est 

Re: FireTruck

I think that chief Trovato should be drug tested,
he has to be on drugs to think that the tax payers should shell out
$300,000. This town has enough money  problems already. The Dept had
a nice truck until Mr martinez destroyed it, why doesn't he pay for
it? can the town sue him?
4:11 pm est 

In Poor Taste!

Re: "New Fire Truck Costs

Any idea where the town is going to come up with half of
the $650,000 for a new ladder truck? Maybe a few 'heros' can pool
their resources. Rather upsetting that the fire truck was under
insured. Did Kerry write the policy?

-Shifting Dune"
*********************************************************

That was really in POOR taste! 2 guesses as to who wrote it!
4:09 pm est 

I Say Recall all the Bloggers on Here.....

......who think they have all the answers! And don't get involved
in the solutions. At least the TM & BOS, and all of the rest of the
volunteers of town government are doing more than just blogging
away like Rush Limbaugh!
4:07 pm est 

Re: Murchison Property

Because until the town put a stop on this development did
the developer put in writing what he will or will not do to the f
orested land!
4:04 pm est 

Re: Kerry Adams Come on Down

You need to get on that school bus also......not for nothing what do
you do for this town?

Just asking
4:02 pm est 

Re: Pity the Children

Maybe you should pack a lunch and
get on that school bus to, your spelling is pretty much a hint at
your mentality
3:59 pm est 

Re: Elias Martinez

Sharon Lynn seems confident that insurance will cover the fire truck.
I certainly hope that is true. But the story does not end there.

E.M. was DEAD DRUNK. That is not an opinion. It is fact, for his
blood-alcohol level was 0.32-0.36 according to the police. The
medical threshold for death by alcohol poisoning is 0.4 - less, for
people who are especially sensitive. This young man deserves
reprimand, and serious help.

Meanwhile, I wonder about the culture of the Fire Dept. Did
colleagues ever see Martinez anywhere near this drunk? If so, did
they just see a young dude sowing his oats? Is drinking a scourge of
this macho, high-pressure job?

Flame me all you like. I grew a tough skin after the accident as I
shook my head at the nasty defensiveness about Martinez on this blog.

So I'll just have to consider the source.

- Laughing Last
3:57 pm est 

Re: Re: Building-Regulatory Fees

Building Department regulatory fees by State law can only be charged at the rate
of actual departmental cost and no more.

The law views any amount over the actual cost to be an unmandated
tax and therefore it is prohibited. It is considered an operational cost
of the department and cannot be applied to General Funds.
1:22 pm est 

Re: Re: Murchison Property

Yes, he does want to build high end homes but not oversized and
obnoxious ones that dominate the landscape. His intentions, as
outlined to the various committees, is to build smaller homes of high
quality in keeping with the other home sizes in the neighborhood that
will at the same time not overshadow or outshine the grand home at
the top which he is in the process of bringing back to its full
glory. Sit back and get your facts straight. If you don't know the
players in this story, how can you comment with any facts?
1:16 pm est 

Re: Building-Regulatory Fees

Who is the fool that said that the building/ regulatory
departments fees they charge, pays for the services they provide? 
Those FEES could go into the GENERAL account of the town.   Why
should they only PAY FOR THE Department?  We could have just Russell
Braun with NO assistant and MAKE SOME EXTRA FEES going into the
general budget.  Lets get real!  THERE IS FAT ALL AROUND TOWN HALL,
especially with management.
Do we really need an assitant town manager for a town that has4
thousand full time residents?  I do NOT think so.

A larger stone on the beach
1:14 pm est 

Re: New Fire Truck Costs

Any idea where the town is going to come up with half of
the $650,000 for a new ladder truck? Maybe a few 'heros' can pool
their resources. Rather upsetting that the fire truck was under
insured. Did Kerry write the policy?

-Shifting Dune
11:57 am est 

Re: Sewer Hookup

When I hooked up to the waste water treatment plant it cost
us $25,000. we are paying $2,500 a year for ten years so we aren't
doing this forever. We also pay for water and sewage--even when we
use the water to water the yard--with a hand held hose.

Plus, we had to pay $2,500 to be connected to the plumber co. digging
up the yard etc.

However, we have a small yard, we would have had a monolith in our
yard -- and we were getting our septic system pumped 4 times a
year--We are very, very happy--we don't have to even think about our
sewage system. Great peace of mind.
11:54 am est 

If It's Overrrides Again, I say Recall

It's time to recall some selectmen. If all they can do is place
over-budget sums as overrides, then it's time to find some selectmen
who can do what this town needs to survive without burdening us year
after year with overrides. And I'd start with the top: recall
Couture. It's her board. It's her agendas. It's her mislead
direction. Leave us with overrides and let's recall you first.
11:53 am est 

Cut Positions

I have a suggestion. Cut out four of the five selectmen. Or all five
of them. then we may get real action on this budget. That would be a
refreshing cut.

Go cuts!
11:51 am est 

To Sewer Hook up

I want to help you, but I need more information.
Is this the first notification to hook up?

Please reply on this blog. The more information I have, the better I
can help you.
11:50 am est 

Where is the Fat in Town Budget?

The fact that there may be more management than union employees does
not trouble me a bit. With technology many tasks are less labor
intensive.

As a frequent user of the building/ regulatory departments I can tell
you there is not a bit of fat there. Everyone works hard and if we
were to trim there, it would hurt economic development. In fact with
the permit fees, the department pays for a good amount of the cost of
service. Ditto for the Fire Dept., staffed by one person.

I also use the "upstairs" Town departments and there is not a bit of
excess there. Yes there is an assistant TM, but we do not have a
planning dept. And it was only in the later years of his tenure when
Bergman decided not to fill this job.

Now I am writing only about the departments with which am familiar
and I'd be willing to support an over ride to maintain these
services. Perhaps people who are conversant with other departments
could tell us where we can cut staff?

Oh yeah, I use the Library too and I'm willing to pay for it as well.

Could Barbara Rushmore be right?
11:49 am est 

It's About Investing in Our Community

To the person who said they were only here 100 days and was
not interested in sewer hookup -

Lack of investment in the town is a major problem.   "My kids are in
high school - I don't care anymore about the elementary school"; "my
friend/relative just retired from the school system - so now I don't
have to support it anymore"; "I am older and don't want to pay
anymore; "I don't use it - I don't want to pay for it".

Think about the big picture here folks - this is not only about you -
it is about a community.   We need to have an investment in that
community.
11:45 am est 

Re: Kerry Adams

I was sitting having my coffee and couldn't believe the add
I think I just saw on TV.

It was the nowthe unctuous & infamous local insurance  man kerry adams down
on MacMillan Pier wearing a black nylon jacket with a very big emblem
of the pier corporation's logo.

With boats behind him, it was something like: give me you policy
and i'll give you a discounted slip.

My name is Kerry Adams ''Come
On Down!'

Really Kerry you give the insurance industry a bad name!
11:42 am est 

Re: Elias Martinez

Perhaps this has been explained and I missed it but why is Elias
Martinez not being made to pay the additional $300,000 needed for a
new fire truck. This was his fault and now we are being asked to pay
for it. This is outrageous.
11:39 am est 

Scrutinize Everything!

Our taxes are allowed to be raised 2.5%. Over and above
that an override vote is required. So the budget is not only
increased 2.5%--but people want to increase it even more.

Upon reflection, furloughs are just a band aid over a situation. The
situation is that we are a town that goes full speed in the summer
and into semi-hibernation in the winter.

Our taxes go to provide services for us, the citizens on
Provincetown. Do we really need a housing coordinator position? No.
Do we need garbage pick up--yes.

Do we need teachers and police officers--yes. Do we need an assistant
to the building inspector in the winter--no! Everything needs to be
scrutinized. We aren't made of money.

With job losses and wage freezes and savings vanished in the economic
melt down people have less money than they did last year.

Michael Rogovsky
11:37 am est 

"It is Shameful"

President Barack Obama issued a withering critique Thursday
of Wall Street corporate behavior, calling it "the height of
irresponsibility" for employees to be paid more than $18 billion in
bonuses last year while their crumbling financial sector received a
bailout from taxpayers. "It is shameful". As a citizen and taxpayer,
this is sinful.
11:33 am est 

Re: Sorry if you're a Town Employee

I am sure you have some merits to your thoughts but if you were a
Town employee, trust me you would not be saying what you are saying
but because you could not get employment with the town you are
finding their jobs easier to cut.

If you were senior citizen in this town, you would find cutting
services like you're trash pick up and what ever we have been blessed
with a hardship.

Govenors Deval Patrick (and other govenors) are dealing with much
higher salaries than ours and maybe that's why they are on the
chopping block. However, I am not one to compare oranges with apples.

Simply put, there are no easy remedies or fixes for what's happening.
No matter what course of action the Town Manager takes, or the
Selectmen take some one will sure be there to climb down their
throats like you. No matter what is said even, someone will be sure
to find fault. So before you volunteer your throat slashing thoughts,
put yourself in their shoes and better yet put yourself in the shoes
of possibly losing your job and then come out from under mama's skirt
and see if you feel the same. Anyone can sit home and dictate.
11:31 am est 

Re: No To Sewer Hookup

No one is forcing you to join the sewer system, hence the survey, but
there are some things you should be thinking of.

You're part of a condo association.  Better hope more than half of
your association members agree with you or you will be forced to hook
up to the sewer.  Welcome to condo life.

Also, if you choose not to join and your system fails in the future,
which eventually it will, you better hope there is still excess
capacity to hook up to the sewer then.  If not, you will be forced to
replace your current system.  Being part of an association, I hope
you have enough reserves to pay for it or you will be assessed the
full replacement cost of the septic system.  Associations cannot take
out loans.  And if you are able to connect to the sewer system, the
betterment will be much higher in the future and there will be no low
interest loans to assist you.

Good luck to you and I sincerely hope your condo is on the second
floor.  Less chance of backup if above ground level.
11:28 am est 

School Regionalization Issues and "New Math"

While I applaud the efforts of the School Committee to find ways to
reduce their operating budget, I question the recent reports that
Chairperson Nelson recently annouced she welcomes the opportunity to
explore "renting out" portions of the school.

Perhaps revenue streams are treated more favorably when faced with
the threat of closure by the Commonwealth.

Case in point... When Town Hall officials requested the School
Committee evaluate usage of portions of the high school that is
currently under utilized, they were informed -- rather emphatically
by the Superintendant and her highly paid administrative entourage --
that security concerns would prevent multi-use of the school.

Wow! Many of us were taken aback by the potential risk that existed
with sex offenders lurking in the parking lot, or even worse,
criminals invading the educational institution. The Commonwealth
required our little town to protect itself against these potential
agents of harm, so said reps from the Superintendent's Office. Shades
of George W. Bush's post 9-11 administration were in the air...

Now the Commonwealth's Department of Education has weighed in. All of
a sudden, multi-use of the school buildings is on the table.
Apparently, all of the "security" concerns have been resolved. What a
miracle!

A simple question.... What changed?
11:26 am est 

I Agree With the Vote

Candace should leave this reality show now!
11:24 am est 

Re: Terese Nelson

So, the School, better known as the Terese Nelson show,
would rather close the elementary school and put 6 year olds on a schoolbus...
than let her own Teenagers take a schoolbus to a real High School
like Nauset where they may learn something.

Of cause she does,
Always did, always will

Pity the poor children
11:22 am est 

Re: Kerry Adams

I, too, want to support Mr. Adams in these attacks. He
accepted my fishing license in 2008 which was a three day
recreational license. I saved about 6K because I didn't have to pay
the Fishermen's Wharf rate.  That money allowed
me to put a new addition on my second home.

See you all next summer!
11:21 am est 

The Union's Vote & Position

Since everyone seems to be throwing around all the wrong
numbers including the Banner...

Please allow me a moment of your time with a few correct numbers
regarding "The Union Vote" that so disappointed everyone
I was there...I voted along with 26 other union members...

That's right folks, the local rag may salute M Couture for the idea
and Sharon for the lousy email that forced the vote...but the truth is,
once again Sharon and her personal "squad" have asked the LOWEST paid
workers to take the cut...

The Cops and School unions refused to even ASK their members...so it
was left to the much misunderstood FEW to save the town...

Contrary to public opinion, we are not all as dumb as the powers that
be think we are...or they are.

It didn't work the way they planned, we didn't roll over and vote to
give ANY more. We've given enough over and over...We sent a loud
message to Sharon that we won't be threatened with layoffs,,,We told
her with that NO vote to DO HER Job and offered a wide range of
alternative options...to deaf ears...

Where is the LEADERSHIP????

Cut your OWN salary and that of your ASSistant and his ASSistant, etc., etc.
including ALL  Department heads and their ASSistants...

Last year, while the Union gave up their negotiated raise...ALL Dept.
Heads and ASSistants quietly had budget "adjustments" of THOUSANDS.
A nice little secret bump for all Sharon's squad ....

When that happens (and pigs fly) we the Union of a FEW will be
willing to join REST

27 members voted
24 NO
3  YES....2 Sharon toadies and the other just an idiot

I hope when your trash is picked up and roads plowed or you call the
fire dept., visit the library or Trailer Hall, you will all remember
that we are the FEW people who really do work for a living...
It is now time to make Management work for all of us

Thank you, I remain,

The ONLY Pebble on the beach
11:19 am est 

Say it Isn't True KERRY

I  heard you gave the largest property  owner in ptown one of
those tax funded slips? Do you insure his boat and and other
assets?

If that's true, I don't know how you sleep without a fistful of
Percocets when town employees
like me can''t sleep at night not knowing if i have my job with the
cuts! Sounds like you give away the pier for your financial gain.

Shame on you.
11:10 am est 

Re: 2010 Budget

The BOS and the TM did make the tough decisions.  There is nowhere
else in the budget to cut.  How many years can a town survive on
level funding?  They made the tough decisions and have now offered to
you the CHOICE if you as a community wish to continue to have certain
services or keep employees.  If you choose not to support the
services via an override, then those services and jobs will be
eliminated.

I think they are acting correctly by allowing us the choice. 

Hail democracy.
11:08 am est 

Thursday, January 29, 2009

No to Sewer Hookup!

Today I received a survey to see if I was interested in
hooking up to the sewer... No way in hell - $495 a year for 20 years
for the betterment... way to high for me. I am a part time resident
and only spend 100 days a year in Provincetown. I do not rent out my
property and I pay a monthly condo fee of $210 to pay for my water,
septic system and trash pick up. Say NO to the sewer hookup in the
EAST END.

BR
8:54 pm est 

Sorry if You're A Town Employee

But your salaries are costing us too high taxes. The budget is
fiscally in the hole. Salaries have to be cut. Or your time lessened.
Do you think we should be the ones to shoulder your salaries year after
year? That we should accept overrides.

Look around my dear. Look At Barnstable. They have eleiminated
two elementary schools and they are eliminating the Charter school.
that is what we need to do here.

Cut you, if your position is not essential. Or cut everyone's salary by a
certain percentage. I do believe that this is what Shron should do.
But she is too fearful and thus places overrides as the answer.

No, not in these hard times and many taxpayers cannot take additional
taxes. Sorry, but if you have to go. Go. We have too many on the town
payroll. Too many hours. Too many services. Something has to give and
it is not higher and higher taxes. Look at what Deval Patrick is
doing. Look at what Swatzenneger is doing. this is not personal. this
is not idiosyncratic to Provincetown.

Please open your periwinkle yes and see the world.
8:52 pm est 

Re: Kerry Adams

KERRY HOW CAN YOU POSSIBLY BE MEETING ALL THE QUOTAS YOUR
FATHER IN LAW SETS FOR YOU WITH ALL YOUR BLOGGING?

YOU REALLY NEED TO DO SOME LANDSCAPING THIS SUMMER!
8:48 pm est 

Here's the Scenario

Oh, yes, it will only $26 additional dollars for a taxpayer to fund
this person. Then it will only cost $56 to fund this postion. then it
will only cost $42 to fund this override. then it will only cost $47
to cover this service. It's nothing, really othing.

What a sick game. And each year all these little extra $45 get added
on, piled on on top of new ones for the last three years.

Vote No on Overrides. Yes on across the board 10% departmetn cuts. Let
everyone--everyone, take a cut in pay, a freeze in salaries and then
let's see where we are for Fy2011. Sacrifice now. We have yet to do this i
n this town. Sorry but the party is over! And it's time you
clearn up your own you know what. Stop leaving these bron piles for
us, the taxpayers, to shovel up and get ride of.
8:19 pm est 

When You're In Crisis, Where Are the Necessary Skills?

Doesn't seem like they exists in those who are leading this town
parade. Smile. Make nice. Keep your job and then ask the taxpayers to
fund again and again your cowardice.

Please, I don't care where you get the      or the cahunas or the
guts, even if you have to express mail them in from another coast,
but strap them on and make the decisions that a solid town leader
would do. What is wrong with you? You are not children and neither
are we. We are not in the sandbox. This is life. This is serious.
Make the hard, tough decisions or leave us. Take early retirement.
Say you want to spend more time with your partner. Please, do
something.
8:16 pm est 

Re: Re: Over rides here we go again

Apparently the blogger of that particlar blog is about as sympathetic
as Saddam Hussein was. You also are in a position obviously that your
job is not one that has the potentioal for being cut and you're not
obviously in a position to have your hours cut either ? Because if
you were I doubt your lips would be flapping faster than a seagul can
flap it's wings by saying what you did.

I and many others commend the Town Manager and Selectmen for
considering a 2 1/2 over ride. If it will save jobs than so be it.
Maybe you can afford to lose yours but I can't. I know many others
too that can't. Times are hard for everyone, even if you have a job.
You give the impression that you don't care. And that is sad. If you
do care than you got personal issues with the Town Manager and
Selectmen. Hopefully your blog has convinced more to support the 2
1/2 over ride.
8:14 pm est 

I Also Love Barbara Rushmores Letter to the Banner!

Everywhere in the world prices have gone up! But people like Mikey &
Astrid want to cut taxes so much that the town will go belly up!
Taxes are how a town keeps running. If we keep cutting, god help us!
8:12 pm est 

Re: Murchison Property

The new owner of the Murchison property does in fact want
to build new high end homes! And always has! And no I don't even know
who Ted Malone is. I've read about him but I have no idea what he
looks like, let alone know him. But I have an idea who you might be.
8:11 pm est 

Dear Candace and Mike R. -

Why don't you two take your
little show on the road? Any road, as long as it leads OUT of
Provincetown! Oh and Candace darling, don't turn your back on him,
he'll stick you in it as soon as he changes his mind for the
umpteenth time. And Mikey, sweetheart, don't let Candace near the
coffee, she's prone to fits. Somehow it seems that you two were just
made for each other! Hand in glove hey what? Once there was
Vaudeville, now here in P-town we have BLOGVILLE starring Candace and
Mikey. Candace works the mouthpiece and Mickey pulls the little
strings... cute, really cute! Maybe you could bring in some little
dogs and have them dance around and around... ... ... ... people
really like the animal acts!

Make it stop!
8:08 pm est 

Overrides? Here we Go Again

If last year the deficit was $900,000, this year it is $850,000. With
the added economic disaster that we face, the BOS could not do better
than cut $50,000 from last year's budget? Wimps. Make the cuts. Stop
doing Overrides. You don't do Overrides when you are facing a
recession, if not soon a depression. You make cuts. You freeze
salaries. You cut down employee time. You cuts benefits. What are the
BOS thinking?

Again, I'm sorry, but I would like to see a chair with more financial
skills then grammar school math. That is part of our problem.
6:08 pm est 

No Overrides!

WASHINGTON - The number of people receiving unemployment
benefits has reached the highest level on records that go back more
than 40 years, the government said Thursday, and more layoffs are
spreading throughout the economy.

We must tighten our belts and we must cut the town budget. Yes, we
will vote for the overrides with all of town meeting watching our
every move--but then we will vote no at the ballot box.
6:07 pm est 

Re: Kerry Adams / Candace Nagle & Survivor

Who will be voted off the Island?

6 Votes Nagle
1 Vote Adams

THE TRIBE HAS SPOKEN!!.Please put out your TORCH Ms. Nagle and Leave
the Island.....
6:05 pm est 

Are You A Friend of Ted Malone?

Who was going to rape the land at the Murchinson property? No one.
The issues were abutters issues who wanted no construction in their
backyard. There never was a concern to tear up the land or tear down
the house.

You don't have the facts but you do speak like an abutter spreading
possibel disasters that never were going to happen.
6:04 pm est 

Many Thanks!

We the taxpayers of Brewster MA, Middleton, New Hampshire,
Stattford  Vermont, and South Hempstead New York  want to thank  Pier
Corporation director  Kerry Adams for not making us pay to support
several of the fishermen who live here in our communities and are
tenants of MacMillan Pier.

Thank you also to the taxpayers of Provincetown who are footing this
bill for us. The money we save each year goes to important things in
our communities like trash pick- up, town employee raises and
fireworks.


We too want to say how much we appreciate Kerry Adams too!!!!!!
6:02 pm est 

From: Michael Rogovsky

People are ganging up on Candace, a private citizen, who is
seeking information about the pier. What is wrong with her actions?

The school should have been exploring regionalization years ago
before the D of Ed. forced it upon them.

I take exception to Ms. Barbara Rushmore's letter in the banner
because it isn't the Selectmen who are trying to ruin the town--it is
the fact that there isn't money to pay for all of these services.

People have lost so much from their retirement plans; people are
being laid off who stayed in Provincetown because they were promised
jobs.

I know one homeowner who had a job  and was hired as an
"independent contractor" and that job evaporated.

I know another person who has left town for a few months to find work
because his promised job has disappeared as well. He only stayed
because he was promised a year round job.

I wish that the town workers would accept a furlough for two
weeks--in Dartmouth Mass they even turned off the street lights for a
few months!

So many people here are laid off--I don't see why the town workers
wouldn't take a few weeks off and thus prevent an override.

I'm signing my name and of course, I'll be crucified and pilloried by
the last pebble on the beach and laughing last and the "Mikey
haters"--but that is par for the course on this blog now.

Michael Rogovsky
6:00 pm est 

Thank You All For Your Supportive Postings!

Lower premiums and rates for everyone on me!
5:57 pm est 

Re: Re: Good Thinking About the Insurance On the Pier Who Needs it?

"But, because no insurance was taken out on even
the severely damaged docks, we will pay for the third set of floating
docks in three years.

You must be Kerry or Len posting!"
**********************************************************

Close, but wrong... you must be DAS!
5:07 pm est 

Re: What a Fool

Anyone in town who stands up for someone
whos a millionaire and wants to rape bare the towns vegetation and
build high end homes like on the Murchison property and will not be
living in them is not only a fool, but someone who does not love our
town! I feel sorry for you!
5:05 pm est 

Re: Kerry Adams

Hooray for a good man! So good to see so many people
posting in favor of Kerry Adams. This is a good person that deserves
our gratitude for his selfless acts. I'm sure he expects to be
attacked by Nagel and her flock of followers from time to time. But
Candyce, you are down right nasty!

I have been around for a lot of years (I don't dare say how many
here) and I remember the town wharf in the olden days. What these
people have done to improve it is fantastic. Thank you Kerry Adams
and all of your fellow pier board/committee members! Good work,
please stay on!

Old Fogey
5:04 pm est 

Re: School Regionalization

"Figures that the school committee is looking into
regionalizing our elementary school since all their kids are in high school."
*************************************************************

That's funny, doesn't Shannon Patrick have Elementary school aged
children? Aren't Peter Grasso's kids graduated already? Check your
facts please!
5:02 pm est 

Re: Candace Nagle

As a fellow director of the Provincetown Dog Park Ass., I
have worked closely with Candace Nagle.  I can't say enough about her
leadership, vision and determination.  Any town board would be very
fortunate to have her.

Deborah Grabler
5:00 pm est 

Re: Tax Burden

Yes many folks must deal with layoffs, me
being one of them, though if I had a vote on being laid off or
losing valuable benefits being human I would fight to keep my job
and what I have, such as what the town union just did.

A friend of mine showed me the letter sent out by Sharon for the
union vote and when I stopped laughing at her nonsense I couldn't
help but shake my head at the childish way she has handeled herself
while serving as town manger. Did we really do a very detailed background
check on her or just wing it, so far I see jr high class pres type action
and hear of her relying on her @$%kissing cronies filling her head with
brilliant ideas, why is there such anger at town employees {no I'm not
one of them} for trying to keep there jobs and benefits if they
worked for stop and shop would we expect them to just give into such
nonsense? I don't think so.    

Never a dull moment
2:55 pm est 

Re: Kerry Adams

Funny how quickly you see how people really feel. Too bad
more don't sign their names though. Mr. Adams, you do good work no
matter what Ms. Nagle says. Stay on board cuz the ship won't sink no
matter how hard she tries to drag it down! Lots of us support what
you do sir!
2:49 pm est 

Now You See it, Now You Don't

Now they are considering renting out part of the school?
What a bunch of lliars! The School Committee said they couldn't
legally rent it out to house town hall temporarily! They are all
morally bankrupt to deceive us like this!
2:48 pm est 

Re:Kerry Adams

I'm glad to see all the blogs written in support of this public
servant who gives so much time to better the people of
Provincetown.Anyone who would demean or slander a man like him surely
must have their own twisted agenda.The powers to be have selected him
for good reason, so let him do his job without tearing his character
down.Thanks to all those who wrote standing up for this fine man,good
to see there are still fine people living in Provincetown who want to
make it a better place to live and not tear it down like some
negative, complaining sniveling malcontents.
2:46 pm est 

Re: Re: School Regionalization (@10:18 am)

"Do any of you people that keep screaming for
regionalization realize that its NOT going to save us any money!"
********************************************************

I don't, because your statement is misleading at best. The school
advisory committee concluded thagt savings might be as high as 14% of
the current school budget. And that was BEFORE Tuesday's meeting
revealed new ways to benefit financially, such as leasing the high
school.

Sell your baloney somewhere else. It stinks.

-Laughing Last
2:44 pm est 

Dear Rattlesnake:

I love a challenge, so here we go. Based on your last post take a
"gander" at this...

1.
Mary Ann Bragg is both accurate and inaccurate. The school officials
did not signal that regionalizing the elementary school was the only
option or to replace it with the option of regionalizing the high
school. What was presented by the state school official was that
regionalization is and can be done at all grade levels, not just at
the middle or high school level. In other words neither school in
Provincetown is exempt from regionalization.

2.
Your view point is tainted because you received your knowledge second
hand. You did not hear it directly from the primary source, which
lends itself to be misinterpreted. So I must disagree with you
regarding your viewpoint. It is tainted because it is based on what
someone else heard not what you actually heard. I think Number 4
below further cements this item.

3.
You infer that you are unbiased and rational as you consider a run
for the school committee as you look for another person like you.
Based on what you have said in your original post regarding not
regionalizing the elementary school vs. regionalizing the high school
you are inadvertantly saying you are biased against the high school.
You are also biased in that you use two newspapers determine what
your opinion is on a subject rather than getting the information
first hand.

4. And finally how can you be 100% credible when the two newspapers
you quoted in your post have conflicting reports of the same meeting
regarding the feelings of the school committee in regards to
regionalization.

Cape Cod Times 1/28/09 Mary Ann Bragg
"Provincetown school panel examines reorganization"

"Members of the local school board met with a state official
yesterday and signaled their preference for regionalizing elementary
grades rather than the higher grades."

Provincetown Banner 1/28/09

From yesterday's Banner: "However, much of the meeting
was spent discussing the specifics of regionalization, an option that
came clear no one on the school committee was interested in."

The real question is where does the school committee stand in regards
to the issue of regionalization?

My point to all of this is that everything about the future of the
school system is finally on the table, as it should have been from
the beginning.

I am outta here...have a great day!

The "Goose"
2:43 pm est 

From: Today's CC Times

By Mary Ann Bragg
STAFF WRITER
January 29, 2009

A blood analysis of the 21-year-old Provincetown firefighter who
wrecked the town's ladder truck in early November showed a level of
alcohol four times the legal limit after the crash, according to a
preliminary police report released today at Orleans District Court.
2:39 pm est 

Re: Candace Nagle

Took a break from here due to the negativity. turns out
nothing's changed except candace has taken center stage from mikey.
wasn't this all about her not getting her way with her float?
shouldn't we let her handle this on her own time and figure out the
bigger issues. you know, the ones that affect everyone? good lord...
it's like a bad song i can't get out of my head.
2:38 pm est 

School Regionalization

Figures that the school committee is looking into
regionalizing our elementary school since all their kids are in high
school.
2:36 pm est 

A Matter of Freedom of Information

Could one of you people who keep bashing Candace Nagle
please tell me what she is doing wrong. It seems to me that she is
asking for information that the pier corp. has a legal obligation to
provide and is refusing or stonewalling to do. What is so wrong with
that?

The buzz word of this last year is "transparency". If everything that
the Pier Corp. is doing is on the up and up-why don't they just provide
the information and then the truth will be evident and her accusations
will be proven wrong once and for all and she will have to shut up
(which is what you all want, isn't it).

How come all the character assasinations against someone who is
asking for information that she is legally entitled to receive. Who cares
what her motives are. If she uncovers wrongdoing--isn't that a good thing?
 
And if she uncovers no wrong doing isn't that an even better thing?
Who cares if she is difficult to work with? Be grateful you don't
have to work with her!

Many people throughout history that have accomplished good and
righteous things in this world have been difficult to get along with.
Who cares if the results are just. 

If you can't come up with an answer to this then leave her
alone and let her get the information she is asking for.

Last time I checked Provincetown was still a democracy!
2:35 pm est 

Re: Pier Insurance

If you can't see why a pier should be
insured I'd like to show you a bridge I have for sale, it crosses
Cheyanne Wy harbour rite to the front door off my beach front home
there. I'm sure with your common sence you will know a good deal when
you see one.
2:29 pm est 

Re: Good Thinking About the Insurance On the Pier Who Needs it?

But, because no insurance was taken out on even
the severely damaged docks, we will pay for the third set of floating
docks in three years.

You must be Kerry or Len posting!
2:04 pm est 

Placing the Burden on the Taxpayer

I know a young man who had to leave town to work because he
was laid off from his job. Now the town workers refuse to take a
couple of weeks off from work. I was laid off and so were lots of
other people. Yet you want us to pay for overrides.

We already pay thousands in taxes to support people with their paid
benefits etc. and they won't lift a hand to vote to stay in their
Barca loungers for a couple weeks and still have their jobs.

Put it all on the backs of the taxpayers and keep increasing the
burden year after year after year.
11:59 am est 

Re: Russell Braun

I do not understand why all these town employees need
assistants.  Especially Russell Braun.  I want to know what that guy
does.  We do not really care that Sharon likes him.  Sharon likes
people.  As a contractor, I have yet to see any help that Braun has
given me.  And before I get nasty replies, I have asked.  He just is
not around much or I get no response.
11:56 am est 

Please Kerry Say it Isn't So

Kerry please dont let that wash ashore get under your skin trouble
makers like that are a dime a dozen here and have been for years
you know that, I have the fullest respect for you and what you do for
our town as do alot of other folks in this town. Ms Nagle, stop it just
stop it now while you can, you think your doing good but you look
and are foolish for doing what your doing to this wonderful man
11:54 am est 

Even Gloomier Economic News

"The current national recession has also pushed up the
seasonally-adjusted unemployment rate for the state as a whole, from
5.9 percent in November to 6.9 percent in December.

Nationally the November-to-December unemployment rate rose from 6.8
to 7.2 percent. Large losses in the Bay State were reported in the
job sector known as Professional, Scientific and Business Services.
That sector declined by 7,500, which accounted for more than half of
all state job losses reported in December.

Construction jobs were down 2,500 from November to December, and the
Financial Activities sector was off by 900 month over month;
Financial Activities has shed some 7,000 jobs  representing 3.1
percent of its entire workforce  from one year ago.

And although the Education and Health Services sector added an
estimated 9,300 jobs over the past year  the largest gain of any
sector  it also declined by 700 in December.

The highest unemployment rate for December, 28.5 percent, was in
Provincetown, a tourist destination that utilizes an abundance of
seasonal employment."

And I suspect it's going to get higher with the local unions' myopic
view, voting 45:3 against accepting a furlough. You 45 have no one
but yourselves to blame, and I wish you all the best in finding
another job.
10:25 am est 

Re: "Coffee with Candace"...

.......................Sounds the title of a really bad novel!
10:23 am est 

Re: Coffee With Candace

Coffee with Candace? There's a bad idea if ever there was one!

Duck and cover
10:21 am est 

Public Pier Insurance

Who will pay for insurance on the pier? And what by the way
willit be insured against? It can't burn. I think flood insurance is
a whole seperate thing if the thing could ever flood. What then? I'm
confused, it sounds like throwing good money after bad.
10:20 am est 

Re: School Regionalization

Do any of you people that keep screaming for
regionalization realize that its NOT going to save us any money!
Also, we lose one of the last remaining choices the kids have.
10:18 am est 

Re: Kerry Adams

I now have a new found respect for Kerry Adams. Talk about
putting your money where your mouth is! Don't let that woman push you
around Kerry! She's so not worth it!!!!!!!
10:16 am est 

Hey Kerry!

She wants to have coffee with you now! Sheesh
Candace make up your mind.
10:15 am est 

Re: Candace Nagle

I wouldn't have coffee with Candie Nagle.
10:14 am est 

To: What's Good For the Goose is Good For the Gander

      Cape Cod Times 1/28/09 Mary Ann Bragg
"Provincetown school panel examines reorganization"

"Members of the local school board met with state official
yesterday and signaled their preference for regionalizing
elementary grades rather than the higher grades."

      You wanted to know where I got my "misinformation".
Here it is. If you still think it it is incorrect, go to Mary Ann
Bragg at the Times.

      You also stated that I had a "tainted viewpoint".
Yes, I have a viewpoint, but I wouldn't consider it "tainted". It's
my view based on reported information.

      FYI, I do not work for the school system or any other Town
entity. And yes, I have considered running for school committee and
am looking for another unbiased rational thinking running mate.

      So, Gander, perhaps you should "goose" up and write a
rebuttal.

Rattlesnake

P.S. From yesterday's Banner: "However, much of the meeting
was spent discussing the specifics of regionalization, an option that
came clear no one on the school committee wasinterested in."

Any interested volunteers?
10:13 am est 

Insurance Policy No Show

If Kerry Adams sold me an insurance policy i wouldn't want
him to release that info to ms. nagel.  It's my private information
and none of her business.
10:10 am est 

Yes Indeed the Pier Looks Great

But, for those who are handicap have been discrimanated against for
years on our pier. The pier manager has not fixed the ADA
lift on the main float. That really will   Cater to cruise lines.
10:08 am est 

Appreciative Citizen

You are so right.  It 's really good that we didn't at least get a quote
to insure the pier even though having insurance on the pier is
clearly stated in the lease. It was even better that we had to have
FinCom review their books to discover this and tell the public.
Also, why bother insuring the renovated harbormaster's office building?

More people should think like you!
10:06 am est 

BOS Chair Couture For 21/2 Override!

Couture had originally been against any tax increase that
would require a Proposition 2 1/2 budget override.

However, she said she changed her mind Monday after three town
residents spoke at the selectmens meeting, saying they would be
willing to approve an override in order to avoid layoffs.

However, the board still has to decide how to cover the $835,000
budget deficit in the event any proposed overrides fail.

And then we go to the ballot box and vote no on these overrides.
10:05 am est 

Re: Gloomy Economic Outlook

A report released yesterday by the Massachusetts Executive
Office of Labor and Workforce Development said that Cape Cods
unemployment rate climbed to 8.2 percent with more than 10,000
Barnstable County residents out of work.

The Massachusetts unemployment rate rose to 6.9 percent, lower than
the national unemployment rate of 7.2 percent. The unemployment rates
and job losses reflect the deepening impact of the national recession
on state residents, said the report.

Not reflected in these statistics is the significant number of state
residents that lost their jobs this month. The January 2009
unemployment rate, labor force data and survey of jobs for
Massachusetts will be released March 5; local unemployment statistics
will be released March 10.
And in Provincetown, town workers refuse to take 2.5 weeks off from
work during fiscal year 2010.
10:02 am est 

Re: Christine Lynch of the Dept of Education ........

.....discussed the specifics of three reorganization strategies: sending
Provincetown students to another school district on a tuition basis;
forming a new school district, possibly with Truro and Wellfleet; and
regionalizing with the Nauset Regional School District. Lynch did not
advocate any particular option, saying she was there as a resource for
the school committee.

You certainly have some challenges. I hope to reinforce some of those
options and flesh them out, she said.

However, much of the meeting was spent discussing the specifics of
regionalization, an option that became clear no one on the school
committee was interested in.

Its not in the kids best interest. Its not in the towns best
interest. Its not the answer, said committee member Peter Grosso.

I was disappointed there wasnt more information other than on 
regionalization, Shannon Patrick, committee member, said after the
meeting.

Will someone please tell the school committee that there isn't any
other choice?
10:00 am est 

From: Michael Rogovsky

Thank you for printing my letter to the CPC committee to
relieve the financial burden on the tax payers. It is my hope that
others will write to them as well.

With the need for furloughs and reducing hours at the library and
with other painful cutbacks that are on the table in this dire
economic time, we taxpayers need this CPC money for the renovation of
town hall.

Michael Rogovsky
9:57 am est 

To: Candace Nagel -

See what you have done! You should be
ashamed of yourself! Kerry Adams is a good man who is decent and
caring. He is a member of at least 3 boards that I know of: School
Committee, Pier Committee and Seashore Advisory Board. We need people
like him. He is a local with institutional memory that we can not
afford to lose! He is an honest person of character who hasn't a
malicious bone in his body. People like him who give so much of their
time for this community should be appreciated because there are so
darned few of them left.

Candace, I wonder if you are on any boards or committees? Perhaps you
should be. You seem to have an unending energy and drive to find your
own personal version of the truth. I believe you may be good
intentioned but you go about it in the wrong way. Be a part of the
solution instead of the problem. Attacking good people gets you
nowhere and only causes people like me to lose respect for you and I
am not alone here. There is a very silent majority watching and
listening. Be careful what you wish for...

Remembering the old days of the pier
9:55 am est 

You Are Right: There is No Enforcement in Town

We have a Building Commissioner and a Building Inspector but we have
absolutely no enforcement of the building codes. One in particular
sits on his cahuna and talks and talks. He does not leave the Katrina
trailers. He does not examine what is hapeening in town. so dear
contractors and residents: do whatever you want with sheds, decks,
porches, dormers, and additions. Nothing will happen. There is NO
enforcement.

Why are we paying Russell Braun? Good question. Sharon likes him. But
what a farce. Enforcement is a joke that keeps Braun laughing.
9:52 am est 

FYI Pier Nominations

The reason CN was not selected for a seat on the Pier Corp was that
the selectmen realized that she does not work well with others.  It's
her way, no matter how she has to get there.

Just ask her fellow dog park committee members.  Sure there was a
committee, as long as everyone agreed with CN.
9:50 am est 

What a Fool

Sorry but thanking boards who stand up to millionaires is
ridiculous. They should stand up to any person who buys a property
worth a million and then request that they go to the Cape cod
Commission. Being naive is dangerous, my dear. Perhaps knowledge and
facts would help you. Perhaps not.
9:49 am est 

Re: Murchison Developer

Nobody said he lived in florida, however if he goes there
he could build to his hearts content without worrying that he's
blocking anyones sun or views! Again thanks to our boards for
stopping him in the first place! He has to go for permission on
things that he wants to do now. We're watching! The reason Ted Malone
gets away with what he does is because he uses 40B.
9:47 am est 

Buy Her Out!

I think that if the pier committee members don't get paid,
they should! No board should have to put up with people like her. I
say take the money and buy that woman out!
11:59 pm est 

To: Kerry Adams-Don't Resign

Pier Corp board members are not paid. They are voluteers
like every other board in town. Based on the garbage they have to put
up with from people like CN, they should all be paid and well! I hope
you dont resign Mr Adams she's not worth it.

Seagull with a big frozen fish for Candace, open wide!
11:58 pm est 

Question

If MacMillan Pier cost $13Mil plus to build, how
much would it cost to insure? My guess - too much! Leave it alone
Miss Nagel. Thank you for stepping up and doing what you do Mr.
Adams. Don't let that woman push you out!

Appreciative Citizen
11:55 pm est 

What is Going On With Unpermitted Building Construction???

I travel around our town quite a bit every week.
Anyone can see a lot of construction work going on with no permits in
the windows?
We have two building inspectors and none of then can catch this work?
We are loosing permit fees big time and God only knows how safe the
work being done is.
A real slap in the face for the town employees that may need to be
fired because of budget shortfalls.

Get off your duffs!

Barely Owning
11:54 pm est 

Re: Murchison Property

Well, it appears to me that several of the boards made an OOPS ? 
Perhaps, they should have given the new owner the same respect as
other members of the community get !  What's good for one, should be
good for all....  Conservation certainly had their facts screwed
up....  Just as Chris Lucy...  He gave a good presentation.  And the
Conservation presented a mis-representation in in-correct facts about
the property.  A BIG OOPS.....
11:52 pm est 

To: "I Thank"

Perhaps you ought to do your homework and find out where the new
owner lives?  It's not in Florida....  Don't make a fool of
yourself.....
11:50 pm est 

Re: Public Pier Corporation Operations Review

I look at the Pier and see a much better looking and run
pier than in years past. And as I remember the finance committee just
went through the pier books with a fine tooth comb! And it cost us
taxpayers to have it done.
11:49 pm est 

That Was Helpful

What about a town employee also being the manager of a
semi-autonomous corporation like the pier manager for the
Provincetown Public Pier Corporatoin who is also the harbormaster?
Can you refer to any town by-laws or Massachusetts General Laws that
allow this double role?

Thanks!
11:47 pm est 

Yes I Agree

Just because somebody does not sign, does not
hide the fact that we can tell who is writing it! Mikey, Candace &
Astrid no longer have to sign because of writing style and subject.
11:46 pm est 

To: Kerry Adams

"Dear Candace Nagle -

If you can prove any wrongdoing on my
part as a member of the Pier Corporation Board of Directors, I will
resign my position forthwith.

Kerry L. Adams, Treasurer
Provincetown Public Pier Corporation"
***********************************************************

Kerry,

Likewise, if you can prove that my MOTIVES that you have publicly
questioned are anything less than bringing fiscal and management
checks and balances and transparency to the pier likewise I will end
my efforts to bring better government to MacMillan Pier and harbor.

We both love this Town. So, lets work together on some concerns I
have about who is getting subsidized rates on the floating docks and
fixed piers and concerns that section 3a of the lease agreement
between the Pier Corp and Town which addresses the residency
requirement for subsidized slips is not being enforced.  Maybe
Selectman Bedard who wants to be an official liaison between the
selectmen and pier corp. could put a subcommittee together. You have
my telephone number and I am happy discuss this further with you.
Better yet, let's get together for coffee tomorrow.

candace

11:45 pm est 

I'm Glad Michael's Blogging But It is Not His Personal Blog

And that's what I saw the Webmaster indicating. Good to hear from
MIchael and do posts. But there should be some moderation in
responses. This is not a personal blog and I think the Webmaster
spends much time posting these responses in order to give the town a
voice. Yes, the greater town a voice and not just one person, no
matter whom that one person would or could be.
11:41 pm est 

Wednesday, January 28, 2009

To: Ken (Kerry) Adams

Don't resign, the town needs more citizens like you!.."those that can
do, those that can't, COMPLAIN"
There are many many town people here that appreciate the work that
you and your committee do.Maybe the complaining  tenant should move
their boats over to Fisherman's Wharf!!!
8:46 pm est 

Re: Thanks For Making My Point

"The only reason you know Michael R. is
posting so often is because he signs his name."
****************************************************

You don't say?

I've noticed a remarkable similarity in the writing style of Mikey's
more frenetic signed posts (e.g. The Provincetown Police, Barry
Scott) and the anonymous notes clustered around them.

-Laughing Last
8:44 pm est 

Nice Chess Move, Kerry

Now how about those records that
Nagle wants? Are you going to give them to her the easy way?  Check
mate.

Slippery Fish (waiting for the resignation...waiting for pigs to fly)
8:42 pm est 

I Thank.....

.......all boards and committees that stand up to anyone
who wants to take away pristene woodlands and build spec homes like
the Millionaire who bought the Murchison property! Go back to Florida
where they let developers build where they want, and as high as they
want. The tide is changing!
8:41 pm est 

In RE: 1:35pm What Are The Rules?

THE PROVINCETOWN GENERAL BYLAWS

1-2.  Definitions.

1-2-2.  Town employee.  "Town employee" means a person who is elected
or appointed to a town office in accordance with the General Laws of
the Commonwealth, the Town Charter or these bylaws.

1-2-3.  Town authority.  "Town authority" means any person or group
of persons, whether elected or appointed, authorized to bind the Town
in contract, or to enforce on behalf of the Town the General Laws of
the Commonwealth, the Town Charter, these bylaws, or any rule or
regulation duly promulgated by the Board of Selectmen, a Town Board,
or any agent or delegate thereof.

1-2-4.  Town board.  "Town board" means any town board, commission,
committee, council, or agency.

1-2-5.  Person.  "Person" means any individual or group of
individuals, or any association, partnership, corporation, company,
profit or non‑profit business organization, trust or estate, to
the extent permitted under the laws of the Commonwealth of
Massachusetts; and the United States and the Commonwealth of
Massachusetts, their political subdivisions, administrative or
regulatory agencies, public or quasi‑public corporations or
bodies, an any other legal entity thereof including their legal
representatives, agents and assigns, insofar as may be permitted by
the laws of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts or of the United States.

2-3-3.  Enforcing person.  "Enforcing person", as used in this
chapter shall mean any Selectman or any police official of the Town
of Provincetown with respect to any offense; and the town official in
charge of the Airport and his designees, Shellfish Constable and his
designees, the Conservation Officer and his designees, the
Harbormaster and his designees, the Health Agent and his designees,
the Licensing Agent and his designees, Sealer of Weights and Measures
and his designees and the Zoning Enforcement Officer and such other
officials as the Board of Selectmen may from time to time designate,
each with respect to violation of bylaws and rules and regulations
within their respective jurisdictions.  If more than one official has
jurisdiction in a given case, any such official may be an enforcing
person with respect thereto.

FROM "Handbook of Members of Town Boards"

Ineligible for Membership
Individuals who are not registered to vote within the Town of
Provincetown are ineligible to participate on Town boards.  A paid
employee of the Town  shall not be a member of a Town board which is
in ANY WAY RELATED TO his/her EMPLOYMENT. (c.3-4-2). Also, any paid
Town employee with supervisory duties shall not be a member of a Town
board which is in any way related to his/her employment during
his/her term of office or for at least one year after leaving office.
(c.3-4-3)

ALL Boards have a form of AGENT that is a PAID TOWN EMPLOYEE.

Lets Review;

Town employee:
a person performing services for or holding an office, position,
employment or membership in a municipal agency of the town of
Provincetown, whether by election, appointment, contract of hire or
engagement, whether serving with or without compensation, on a full,
regular, part‑time, intermittent or consultant basis. (C.1-2-2)
8:38 pm est 

Another Question

Do the Public Pier Corp mucka mucks like Len and Kerry and Phil
Tarvers and good ol George Hitchcock get PAID????

I well remember when Bergman, with a little help from his friends,
created the Corporation we all know so well in order to get grant
money from the feds.

Oh yea, it was going to be so so good for the town! It would make so
much money our taxes would go down!

yea yea yea

Way to go CN! Keep it up...most of us are on your side!
7:46 pm est 

Dear Candace Nagle -

If you can prove any wrongdoing on my
part as a member of the Pier Corporation Board of Directors, I will
resign my position forthwith.

Kerry L. Adams, Treasurer
Provincetown Public Pier Corporation
7:45 pm est 

To: End of Story...

Don't you wish.
7:44 pm est 

To: Starving Seagull

Seems you know alot about the workings of the Pier Corp .  A little
too much not to be a member.  Ms Nagle never implied that she wanted
to raise the rates on fisherman.  Everything she has said is quite
the contrary .  To help you with you reading disability let me
explain what she has said.

Ms Nagle has made a point of saying that "rich washashores " as you
put it should NOT be given reduced fishermans rates based on three
day licenses.

Only really dumb Seagulls starve in Provincetown(want some popcorn?)
7:42 pm est 

Here's a Question...

Granted, the Pier is not insured and it is only a matter of time
(maybe tonight)before the fixed floats break up AGAIN...resulting in
the town as landlord, AGAIN having to replace them, for the THIRD
Time because there is
NO Insurance, right?

Kerry Adams, just so happens to be an Insurance Agent, and is on the
Pier Corp board...the folks who decided that the Pier did Not Need
Insurance.

So, here's the question...Why the hell didn't he make sure the Pier
was insured????What's up with that?????

Could it be that they are all so use to letting the Taxpayer pick up
the bill, that this slipped by?

Do you think Mr Adams has insurance on his home and business???

Keep up the good work Candace...When you finish the great job you are
doing...Would you please, please, please take a look at the big black
hole that is DPW...enough said.
7:41 pm est 

HIGH Flooding Near New Town Hall!!!

Don't anyone go trying to navigate Jerome Smith way right
by the new trailer town hall tonight--Wednesday.  I just spent twenty
minutes waiting for my engine to dry out on the side of the road
because of HIGH flooding.  Thing is, you don't see it till you're in
in.  Trust me on this.  Went slow and still got flooded out. So,
careful out there. Jim the policeman came buy and waited with me
until my car started up again.  Good guy that one.  Much appreciated.
7:03 pm est 

Transparency is the Illumination of Truth

Hello  Travelers...The Shadow has made his way back from
the big house and sees that the naysayers and supplicants are still
rolling around in their fetid mires.  Tisk indeed.
Why not open the books?

Do they exist?  Record keeping is not a new concept either.  So
easy a caveman can do it,and did. Do we need to pull out the Rosetta
Stone to decipher the Pier Corp records.  Everyone has motivation
since the universe began.  So.  Let the information come to all who
wish to see it.  The facts will set you free.

Transparency is the Illumination of Truth

signed The Shadow
7:00 pm est 

Scuttlebutt

Someone who keeps blogging needs to step
away from his keyboard and start cleaning his house.

Is the scuttlebutt around town true?
6:57 pm est 

Hey Boo Hoo... !

The BOS should have allowed Nagel a seat on
the Pier Corp.  Obviously she saw problems and could have worked on
these problems internally.  I doubt that the BOS made the decision
solely without any imput from the members of the pier corp. You are
devaluating the intelligence of the readers of this blog.

Slippery Fish (waiting in the calm waters before the storm)
6:56 pm est 

There Has Never Been an Information Black Out On the Pier
 
Quite the contrary. Just ask any memberof the Finance Committee. They
spent 60 hours pouring over all of the pier finances. When they were
finished they publicly stated at an open meeting that they felt that
two private citizens (Candace Nagle and Duane Steele) had wasted
their time.

END OF STORY
6:55 pm est 

Just Produce the Records!

Whoa... Kerry put himself in a position of being accused of
conflict of interest when he made the statement that Nagle had one
because she owned a float.  All Nagle wants is what is considered
public record.  Adams got his bowels in an uproar and started this
round.  There is a simple way to win the round...give her the public
record.  By not producing the requested information, it becomes hard
to not wonder why.  Rational intelligent people see through smoke
screens of deception.

Slippery Fish (reading the big lie over and over)
6:52 pm est 

Turning Over the Rocks

Very few people in this world are motivated soley by
altruism. Most of us get involved in things because of some amount of
self interest. (Just look at the past members of Planning and ZBA).
While I think being aware of someones self interst in a situation is
something to factor in, what I think is way, way more important are
the results they achieve. So what if Candace Nagle has a
self-interest in the pier and how it is run? She is uncovering some
extremely disturbing, seemingly unethical, and perhaps illegal things
going on down there. Nobody else seems to be interested or dedicated
to getting to the truth. I say, more power to her! You go girl!!
6:50 pm est 

Hey There Slippery Fish!

Ms. Nagle's attacks and her research, if you can call it that, only
began when she was denied a position on the Pier Corp Board of
Directors by the BoS (2 years if you want to refer to YEARS of
research).  She also had problems trying to get the Pier Corp to set
aside it's policies and rules for her.  The state mandates what kind
of businesses and operations can operate on the pier.  The Pier Corp
does it's best to satisfy local and state requirements.

Boo Hoo!
6:02 pm est 

The Other Side of the Story

Miss Nagel's intention is to move the fisherman off the
pier, raise the rates and bring in recreational vessels (Rich
Washashores) and thus increase the value of her grandfathered license
agreement for her float space, thus increasing its value.  The
grandfathered licenses were set up originally for the proper owners
of the floats.  Somewhere down the line the BoS let the float license
holders incorporate and thus got the grandfather clauses passed on to
the corporations and therefore the clauses became perpetual.  These
licenses should be sold to the highest bidder!  These licenses were
not intended to be assets that private entities can sell to the
highest bidder.

Starving Seagull
6:01 pm est 

Thanks For Making My Point

"But the next time you do, read down the thread first.  The
webmaster addressed Rogovsky's frequent and voluminous posts on the
same topic. So have many of us."
**********************************************************


Thanks for making my point.  The only reason you know Michael R. is
posting so often is because he signs his name.  My guess is there are
a number of people who post just as often if not more, but don't sign
their names.  But, you'd censor Mr. Rogovsky because he signs his
name?
5:59 pm est 

Washinton Post Comes to Provincetown

I see Ms. Candace N. as the Woodward and Bernstein of
Provincetown. Just as they revealed watergate--she will reveal what
is happening at the Pier. Perhaps *NOTHING* is going on--but why all
of the information Black out on their part?

Why isn't there a demand for Transparency? Ms. N. is an example of
determination and accomplishment. I'd do what I could to placate her
and open All of the books for her investigation.
5:56 pm est 

No Conflict of Interest!

It is absolutely rediculous to accuse Mr. Adams of conflict of
interest because being an Insurance Agent puts him in the position of
possibly writing a polocy for some people who do business on the
Pier.Unless certain people have proof that he coerced pier tenants to
do business with him then I think these people should cease accusing
him of wrongdoing.Something stinks about these attacks on the Pier
Commission and i think the trail may just lead to the accusors..As a
famous author once said "DOTH PROTEST TOO MUCH".
5:54 pm est 

RE: Pier Corporation Operations

Oh, that will certainly help
you when you appear before
the Attorney General!

You better hope the harbormasters office has
a good paper shredder!

What's in a name? That which we call a rose
by any other name selling ferry tickets and writing pier insurance
policies would smell as sweet."
5:53 pm est 

The Waters They Are a Churnin'

The waters are getting nice and murky.  Now all of a sudden the new
attack on Nagel is that she owns a float and that is a conflict of
interest. 

Who in their right mind would believe that one woman with
a float would dedicate years of research , her own money, plus time
and energy to attend countless meetings was because she owns a float
and rents it out. I am sure there are a multitude of ways to make
money which are easier.

She has uncovered unprecedented mismanagement
and nepotism, waste, and unfair and taxpayer costly practices by the
pier corporation.  Would it be a total suprise to find that people
who have been getting reduced mooring fees are insured by a connected
agent? 

Time to let it all air out.  If I know Nagel, she will find
out how many policies and amounts have been written and by whom.  It
may take her some time, but she WILL and all of the churnin', back
paddling and chum slinging is not going to stop her or make any
intelligent person get muddled and believe the nonsense.

Slippery Fish (looking through the walls of a glass fish bowl)
4:47 pm est 

Re: Town Employee Furloughs

The Town Government has presented us with an excellent
solution for town workers keeping their jobs AND reducing the budget:
Furloughs.

Furloughs will not cause layoffs. Furloughs will allow people to keep
their jobs. How I wish that we could vote for this at town meeting.
4:43 pm est 

Dear Mikey R. -

Your 15 minutes have been up for months
now. You are like the tide, always changing. Please make a decision
and stick to it. Also, be careful who you climb into bed with lest
you find yourself on the wrong end of Candace Nagle's bitter pen!

Bitter Pill
4:40 pm est 

Dear Candace:

You're starting to sound "desperate"! Relax
and stop drinking so damned much coffee!

Gabriel's dogs
4:39 pm est 

Candace Nagle vs Public Pier Corporation

This is starting to get amusing. Perhaps the blog should be
renamed "Candace Nagle's attack on the Pier Corp". Does anyone on
this blog actually believe that all these posts savaging Adams and
the Pier Corp are from multiple people? The only way that is true is
if Candace suffers from Multiple Personality disorder. Hmmmm can
anyone say sociopath?
4:38 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky@ 3:49 pm

I do not have any problem with jumping on posters like a wildcat, per se.

But the next time you do, read down the thread first.  The webmaster
addressed Rogovsky's frequent and voluminous posts on the same topic.
So have many of us.

- Laughing Last
4:12 pm est 

Hey "Color Me Curious":

Only Candace Nagle mispells Phil
Tarvers name as "Tarvis"!

Outed again Candace!!
3:51 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

"To the web master. . .I guess you are going tolet Mikey
highjack the blog again, afterall... too bad."

**************************************************

Huh?  So you now want to let the webmaster censor who may and may not
post?  And how often they may post?  You have to be kidding, right?

Michael signs his name to his posts, that's the only way you know if
he posts multiple times.  But, you, me and others can post
anonymously as often and you/we like and it's OK?
3:49 pm est 

Re: Conflict of Interest

Look it, just because Kerry didn't go beyond HighSchool,
there is no reason why he can't comprehend the conflict of interest
laws. I am sure he has heard the word ''recuse' before and
understands what it means. he just chooses not to excerise it when
setting rates on the pier!!
3:47 pm est 

Hi Curious,

Maybe the Attorney General can pry all those insurance policies on
the pier from the Pier Corporaton since they refuse. We certainly
have been down that road before when they stonewalled us from getting
their financials! But we won!

Floating docks, fixed piers, floatowners, let's get'em all!

Does anyone want to wager how many policies Kerry has really written?
3:27 pm est 

Potential Conflicts of Interest at Pier Corporation

Can anyone tell me why Kerry Adam  writes the insurance
policies on the pier but is on the
Pier Board? He claims to write only two policies
yet continually refuses to release all those insurance policies on
the pier. he writes them over and over. Can the pier  really do
anything for the town's fiscal problems when he has a conflict of
interest? Somehow, I don't  think so and even if they could,
shouldn't his premiums he  takes in be
used to repair the pier when needed? Is it also true that his buddy
director Tarvis sells ferry tickets?
  rented a commercial dock space on the pier with a recreational
fishing license? I'm not sure how one can write insurance policies
and sell ferry tickets on the
Town's pier but if that is true, they should  keep quiet because it
looks to this writer like they are only concerned for their own bottom
line?

I'm not attacking Adams & Tarvis, but as a person on the outside it looks to
me like they are only doing this for their own selfish personal reasons.
Am I wrong?

Color me curious
1:40 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

Michael R. comes to the defense of Candace Nagel and her
shabby, public treatment--and now you want him off of here.

The articulate, reasoned and well written statements by Michael R.
are a welcome relief to the Only pebble on the beach with his
disrespect and negative attitude and the sarcasm of others here.

Just because the person who called him Mikey etc. wants his head
doesn't mean it should be given to him. Why are you so threatened?
1:37 pm est 

What are the Rules

Can anyone explain to me why a town employee can't sit on a
town board? But, yet a town employee WORKS for and is COMPENSATED by
a town board?

Let's have the Attorney General weigh in. Maybe the Town can save a
few dollars by lowering that double dipper's salary!

call me curious too!
1:35 pm est 

To: "School Committee... Any Volunteers"

I am trying to figure out what meeting or where you are getting your
information, or should I say mis-information.

I am guessing you are writing in response to last nights presentation
by the Mass DOE rep to the School Committee and BOS and the article
in today's Cape Cod Times.

As I understand what was presented neither the high school or the
elementary school is off the table as far regionalization goes. My
guess is that there are those who always thought the elementary
school was safe no matter what especially those who work in that
building from central office on down.

Well surprise surprise your head is on the chopping block just as
much as those at the high school. So welcome to the club. You can go
through the agony and stress that we have had to go through wondering
if we would have a job or not, like we have done the last several
years at the high school.

In these times nothing is safe in this school system. And yes they
should look at the enrollment chart at the elementary school; no
sixth grade, and only four students in two other grade levels...and
with that few students they cant maintain their MCAS test scores.
Seems the elementary school is more dysfunctional than the high
school.

So next time you post lets give the full story rather than some
tainted view point.

As far as the replacing the School Committee why dont you run since
you seem to know so much? Oh but you can not because it would be a
conflict of interest since my guess is you work for the school system.

Signed,

Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.
1:32 pm est 

As For the MYPACC Ilk!

I'm new to this blog stuff but I have to say, I feel for
anyone that serves on a town board or committee. You people on this
blog are vicious! Where is the thanks that these people deserve for
giving of their valuable time for this town? How easy it is for you
to sling your barbs at them and call them inept, etc. After what I've
read here, I see why people say this blog is poison or like a train
wreck that you can't help watching. Many of you need to get away from
the keyboard and get a ${}#%@#+ life!

I for one would like to say thanks to our volunteers - what you do is
appreciated at least by me and the people that I associate with! As
for the mypacc ilk, I hope this is not a true representation of what
Provincetown has become. If it is, be afraid, be very afraid!

Newbie (but not here for long)
1:29 pm est 

Thank You Walter Gropius

Nice to see such involvement by our architecturally
committed individuals. Walter, you have an eye for historical cncerns
and an eye for deceptive behavior. You also have an eagle's vision
for abutter's behind-the-scences involvement with this well-designed
property. Have you ever thought of designing buildings yourself?
1:24 pm est 

So, Webmaster...

I guess you are going to let Mikey highjack the blog again,
afterall... too bad.
Already he has stated "I promise not to blog tomoorow", and posted
twice that day... one time simply to recite a shiney sticker he saw
on a police car in NYC (no doubt whilst on his way to dinner with a
dynamic couple?).

Please find a way to stop him! He is incorrigable and dim... didn't
we just get rid of a president like that???

Mikey: Stop!!!
1:23 pm est 

Re: After All, When the Dust Settles, Who Stands to Gain? Mr. Adams?

His clients on the floating docks and fixed piers have been laughing
all the way to the bank with the low rates Adams has allowed for
years. Did Mr. Adams get more business as a result? We will never
know, will we?

Are the clients he writes insurance for legitimate fishermen? Or do
they make their livelihoods not fishing and selling their catches? I
would have a BIG problem with that! If he writes insurance on boats
that shouldn't even be gettting the subsidized rates!

Why hasn't he released all the insurance policies of the boats on the
pier? Why did they only release seven when asked? there a lot more
than seven boats down there. At this point I wonder if he wrote more
than two policies. How much did he make? Does he write the policies
of the family members too? Their car, home etc?

Why are we always kept in the dark about the goings on down there?
They say they are transparent but that's bogus!

Who is on the discounted docks? Who is their insurance broker...a
pppc director? Post them on your site!

I think the Attorney General should sort this out!
1:21 pm est 

Re: I Was There.

Touche' to you, Walter Gropius. When I read the previous posters spin
on the good work done by the various town committees, for a brief
moment I thought I was going mad. Then I realized it was madness of
the Ptown mob that was rearing its ugly head.
1:17 pm est 

Stop and Shop

Are some of you in town kidding me ? You actually are complaining
about this new and improved grocery store? Lets look at it from the
perspective of a new town resident like myself.

The Grand Union was a s***hole! Dirty, old produce, out-dated goods,
and some of the staff there were rude and never helpful, and in some
cases looked as if they had not bathed, washed their clothes or
shaved in weeks. The reason why they were moved was to divide and
conquer. Obviously those individuals were moved to make sure the "old
guard" of Grand Union did not continue to do what they were doing
while working for Stop and Shop.

For those of you who can defend that type of business practice then
maybe its time you got in a car and drove across the Sagamore Bridge
to see what a grocery store looks like in the real world. Actually
you can take an even shorter drive, go to Orleans and visit Shaws or
Stop and Shop.

Of course I am not surprised that some long timers would defend such
behavior. You only have to look at Firehouse #2, Town Hall, the
condition of Commercial St. to name but a few, to see that letting
something fall down around them is ok in good ole P-town.

I am personally willing to sacrifice and cut away some of the dead
wood in this town to make it better. This town does not need to walk
around with a balck eye in order to keep its unique character. There
is nothing wrong with having maintained buildings, and great town
services. For some reason there are some in town who seem to thrive
on living in squaller. Not all of us want to, nor desire to, so if
you feel the need to live like that then so be it but the rest of us
have different outlook on life.

Keep up the good work Stop and Shop!!

Truth be Told
1:15 pm est 

Lessons to be Learned

I've stood before the Board of Selectmen and made critical
statements. When citizens stand before the Selectmen at almost every
public meeting and challenges town government, its policies etc., our
volunteer Board of Selectmen are gracious as they always are. Our B
of S never accuse anyone of 'harassment or being a disgruntled
taxpayer' .

Mr Adams should use our volunteer Board of Selectmen as models for
how to treat the public's challenge of the status quo.

Michael Rogovsky
1:11 pm est 

When It Comes to the Murchinson Property, Historical Commission, Planning and Conservation Should Be Ashamed
 
What these boards did, with much collusion, was morally corrupt and
legally questionable. The Murchinson Property was brought to Planning
on a voluntary basis since what the owner was planning did not
require Planning's approval. But Planning worked their wiles, with
the "help" and collusion of Historical Commission, to put pressure to
bring this property to the Cape Cod Commission if the owner did not
follow their requests. Then they used Conservation, with its illegal
town employee member on the board, to bring up incorrect issues to
force this property to the Cape Cod Commission.

And who was behind this questionable behavior? Just look at the
abutters to the Murchinson Property, those who wanted nothing to be
changed and the land kept as it was. Ted Malone was key in this and
he used his contacts on the Cape Cod Commission to bring this to a
vote to this body. There was no valid reason for the Murchinson
Property to go to Cape Cod Commission. The owner wasn't planning any
actual developments.

These three boards should be ashamed of what they did. They held
personal property hostage to their wishes and used collusion,
behind-the-scenes meetings, illegal unposted get togethers, to get
their way.

Please do not applaud what they did. The members should have been
thrown off these boards for their idiosyncractic treatment of this
property. Yet on lands not abutting Ted Malone, Malone's affordable
housing buildings go up and up, the density is extreme, there is no
historic review or consideration, and yet this is allowed and
encouraged.

Such contradictions are down-right sickening. I don't know who
brought up this property for applause, but it surely the wrong
example for good board behavior. It is an example of collusive and
questionable actions that surely need no applause for us.
1:10 pm est 

When Talking About the Murchison Property

Let's give credit to the Board of Selectmen who reigned in the
out-of-control committees.

They voted to have the process removed from the CCC and returned to
local authority.
1:05 pm est 

Re: Candace Nagle

Can anyone tell me why Candace Nagle is so hot after the
Pier Board? She claims to seek fiscal accountability in Provincetown
yet continually attacks the same board over and over. Can the pier
really do anything for the town's fiscal problems? Somehow, I don't
think so and even if they could, shouldn't any money they take in be
used to repair the pier when needed? Is it also true that Nagle owns
a dock space on the pier? I'm not sure how one can own a space on the
Town's pier but if that is true, shouldn't she keep quiet because it
looks to this writer like she is only concerned for her own bottom
line?

I'm not attacking Nagle, but as a person on the outside it looks to
me like she is only doing this for her own selfish personal reasons.
Am I wrong?

Color me curious
1:04 pm est 

Indications of Our True State of Being
Ah My little ducky who says the sky isn't falling. We went
to a city 100 miles away to visit friends. The grocery store they
went to--gone. When hubby went to get a movie, he came back and said
that the blockbuster that was next to the supermarket is now gone.

At the Mall, the big store we went to was just a big white empty box
of empty space when we got there. The gym my friend went to closed
last month.


We went to a store--one person was in it and two or three had just
left. A person came in behind me and stood at the counter and as I
was counting my change, she asked to see the manager for a job--poor
thing--the store was empty.

And at a big department store, we bought something and the clerk
asked us to contact the website below on the receipt to say how
helpful she was to us. How desperate is that?

So my dear, the sky isn't falling--it has fallen. However, here in
Truro, the sale prices of houses increased 8%. We on the cape are in
winter sleep mode--but not the rest of the world--and it is in a
depression.
1:02 pm est 

Re: Former Grand Union Employees

I have no sympathy for some of the former G.U. employees.
Some of them just couldn't cut the "mustard" working at the
professional level of S&S standards. There were quite a few bad
"apples" at the old G.U. And now they want to cry "fowl" because they
feel they are being treated like rotten "eggs". I for one won't be
crying over spilled "milk" of former employees who smelled like 3 day
old "fish" with their attitude. I'm glad to see some good cuts of
"meat" working there now. So, let them "mop" up the tears and the
rest of us can enjoy the "bounty" of the new S&S.

Your's "tongue" in "cheek" The Ogre
12:59 pm est 

Re: Murchison Property

Saying that the new owner of the Murchison property was
going to build more homes there than he is now and that it was
stopped by the silly committees is just an outright lie and wrong,
wrong, wrong.

He may have compromised some aspects in order to gain
favor with the community as one does.  It's called business and
ingratiating oneself with one's neighbors--taking account of all
things and all points of view.

The man wanted to go green from the start and return the house
to its former glory from the get-go. It amazes me that when someone
comes into this community to do good, create something new, put varnish
on neglected glory in order to bring out its former shine and stimulate a
dying economy by creating jobs through that work, that the people here
bristle like a bunch of whacked out yahoos. 

He's not begging the town for another million like TM to line already sullied
pockets or slapping up Canadian made pre-fab condos that look like
re-furbished Stop & Shop fruit boxes.

Jeeps, people, the bile that you sling at any thing fresh is nothing more
than jealous rage and unbridled envy. By the way, that house was not on
any historic registry at the time and if others had the money or the chance you can bet your sweet bippy that they would have ripped the old thing down, buried it in a pit and put
up twenty "affordables."
12:53 pm est 

Re: School Committee

The School Committee should take a course on rational
thinking. It seems they would prefer to regionalize the
elementary school than the high school.

They should look at the enrollment chart. There are more local
elementary students. It is the high school which continues to dwindle
yearly. We can never be guaranteed how many 7th graders will continue
to stay and complete their studies in Provincetown.

There are 2 seats coming up for election this May and 2 more in 2010.
Now is the time to get 2 rational minds and attitudes on the board
this May, then at least one more in 2010. It takes only 3 to run the
show.

Any volunteers?
10:11 am est 

Write to the CPC: Restoration of Town Hall

Open Letter:

Community Preservation Committee
C/O Town Hall
260 Commercial Street
Provincetown , MA 02657
January 27, 2009

Dear Committee Members,

Im writing in support of the application submitted to you by the Town
Manager and the Board of Selectmen for two million dollars (or more)
from the Community Preservation Committee funds to assist in the
renovation of Town Hall. As a taxpayer and a citizen, it is within
your realm to reduce the financial burden on the taxpayers by
approving the funding of this article.

Ive read that if this money is put towards the renovation of Town
Hall, then other groups will be left out in the cold. My question to
you is where was this clarion Call to spread the wealth among these
other groups when the millions of dollars from this fund were being
lavished on the building projects for affordable housing in the past?

The affordable housing projects are funded. Now it is time to
concentrate your attention on the needs of the taxpayers of
Provincetown as we proceed in funding the renovation of town hall.

We are in dire economic times with a depressed economy where citizens
living on fixed incomes and working families are struggling.

Now it is within your power to provide a beacon of hope in reducing
our tax burdens by passing this funding request submitted by town
hall.

Sincerely,

Michael Rogovsky
10:09 am est 

I Was There

I attended the Cape Cod Commission in Barnstable this past August.
Topic: Murchinson property. Results: split vote. They had to rely on
the Governor's representative to make the final decision. This man
probably has never been to
Provincetown, let alone seeing or even knowing where the
Murchinson property is or of it's historic and architectural importance.

As far as the committees are concern, they started off to
crunch the deal at the gekgo.

The asking price was much more than the sale price. Why? Because the
heir found a buyer that would maintain the
integrity of the estate, it's importance to the community and to the
history of design and architecture.

I believe that some of the direct abutters with committee membership
connections were not happy. Thus the lynching
mob came out to stop the deal.

The committees had to give in because in the long run, they had no
case. So, some may commend the committees for their final decision,
but it all ends up to save face and "come out smelling like a rose".

The real truth is they were manipulated by a few citizens who
stanched with jealousy and the pretence that they deserved the right
to say "not in my back yard".

Just remember this. One of the puppeteers will be requesting close to
a million dollars for affordable housing from the CPA Funds. But not
in his back yard.

To the Nelson Avenue Residents, stand up for your rights and concern
for the over development of your neighborhood.

Touche to the buyer and to the seller of the Murchison property. It's
in safe and caring hands.

Walter Gropius
10:05 am est 

Re: Public Pier Corporation-Adams vs Nagle

The comments made at last night's BOS meeting by Kerry
Adams of the Pier Corp. were indeed interesting. Ms. Nagle loundly
trumpets her "cause" citing alledged fiscal mismanagement on the
pier. Yet she never actually gets to the crux of the subject - her
own pocketbook. After all, when the dust settles, who stands to gain?
  Mr. Adams? I don't see how. The members of the Pier Corp. board of
directors? Please explain who and how. No, somehow I think we need to
look deeper.

It is true that Ms. Nagle is the owner of a commercial float on the
pier. If rates are increased on MacMillan Pier, who stands to
benefit? Why Ms. Nagle, of course! One has to wonder if it's really
the taxpayers that Ms.Nagle is looking out for.

Just calling a spade a spade
10:02 am est 

Re: Public Pier and Kerry Adams-Conflict of Interest

Kerry Adams: "In an email today blasted to three boards and the tm:

For the record, I have written (2) Insurance policies on boats on
MacMillan Pier. I have nothing to hide. I have disclosed this at Pier
Corp meetings and informed my fellow board members of same."
-----------------------------------------------------------

Good to know Kerry.  So, lets have Selectman Avellar start staying in
the room instead of running out at the first sign of anyone bringing
up the Pier. She told her board her husband derives income from the
pier too.

She can also start weighing in on her feelings about the Pier Corp.!
Watch out!

What makes you think you are above the conflict of interest law
because you told your board? Is it because you have less of a
financial interest writing two insurance policies than Mary Jo whose
husband works on the pier? Tell us about the Kerry Adams standard for
upholding the conflict of interest laws in Massachusetts. What's the
cut-off? Is it writing three policies? Four?

From one who was forwarded the emails today...
___________________________________________________________

AS A RECIPIENT OF THOSE SAME EMAILS, I NOTE THAT THEY WERE ALL (EACH
ONE) INITIATED BY CANDACE NAGLE. MR. ADAMS MERELY RESPONDED. "GOOD
GOVERNMENT"?? I SINCERELY DOUBT IT!
9:59 am est 

Re: Murchison Property

The owner of the Murchison property never even once tried
to come to any of the boards meetings! I know because I was on one of
the boards. Get your facts right!

Read the minutes.
9:57 am est 

Hey Michael

I bet the concert goer that the Brewster Police officer urinated on
has a lot of respect for men in blue too.

I have respect for positions that people hold, but the person has to earn it.
9:56 am est 

Re: Stop & Shop

"...Cutting the long time employees hours down and hiring
new younger employees so they don't have to pay benefits...
transferring long term employees to other stores..."
------------------------------------------------------------------------


I'll support locals whenever possible, but I won't do it blindly. 
Face it, some of the staff at the old GU were just down right rude. 
If they hire more competent, more pleasant staff members at Stop &
Shop I'm all for it.
11:29 pm est 

Re: Re: Murchison Property

***"The facts about what the Murchison property was going to do was
not told to any committee!" ***
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That's because no committee gave him the chance to present his case!
They sent it straight to the CCC having been led there by the Ass.TM
and the commissions you mentioned when they decided to not even give
the guy a chance. How do I know what the project was going to be
like? Because I spoke with the man prior to him going before any
boards in town. Open your ears and eyes and minds before you judge a
persons intent.
11:27 pm est 

He's Baaaaaacck!

Michael Rogovsky, I mean. In fellative praise of the police.

I agree with @7:23. Cops must earn respect, Mikey, like everyone
else. That takes more than the shiny decal that impressed you so much.

In high dudgeon you have defended the Provincetown Police a dozen
times here. We know where you stand - atop the hood, leaning forward
over the battering ram!

- Laughing Last
11:25 pm est 

To the Pebble on the Beach:

Re: gas pricing.... check the pumps.. There should be a number on
them to call...
11:21 pm est 

Tuesday, January 27, 2009

Ah Ms. Nagle...

Don't fret about Mr Adams and his attack... Everyone knows that a
squid squirts ink when it feels danger...
Slippery Fish (heating oil to cook the calamari)
7:26 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

Well, I can't help but draw  more attention to Michael
Rogosky by saying this, but there are people at town hall and in the
general public with a different view of him. I think that what you
are doing could back fire and people could see that you are dumping
on someone who will stand up for people and issues. This is a big
town compared to this spot--and people like me have been reading him
for a year and talking about him.
7:24 pm est 

To: M. Rogovsky-

In your post yesterday you said you weren't going
to post today and already you've posted twice! Practice a little
self-restraint won't you? And stop defending the police! They get
respect when they earn it.
7:23 pm est 

Re: Public Pier and Kerry Adams-Conflict of Interest

Kerry Adams: "In an email today blasted to three boards and the tm:

For the record, I have written (2) Insurance policies on boats on
MacMillan Pier. I have nothing to hide. I have disclosed this at Pier
Corp meetings and informed my fellow board members of same."
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Good to know Kerry.  So, lets have Selectman Avellar start staying in
the room instead of running out at the first sign of anyone bringing
up the Pier. She told her board her husband derives income from the
pier too.

She can also start weighing in on her feelings about the Pier Corp.!
Watch out!

What makes you think you are above the conflict of interest law
because you told your board? Is it because you have less of a
financial interest writing two insurance policies than Mary Jo whose
husband works on the pier? Tell us about the Kerry Adams standard for
upholding the conflict of interest laws in Massachusetts. What's the
cut-off? Is it writing three policies? Four?

From one who was forwarded the emails today...
6:03 pm est 

Provincetown is Not Corporate America!

Re: Mobile Gas Station

This has been happening for years.

It is a total scam on Tuesdays...

I always buy from Cumberland Farms on Shankpainter.

Even during the high gas prices they were doing this, not to mention
politically Mobile gas is the WORST company to buy from.


Stop and Shop is also on my S*** list.
The way they have been treating the employees is awful.

Cutting the long time employees hours down and hiring new younger
employees so they don't have to pay benefits...transferring long term
employees to other stores (long distance).... even if they don't
drive (have to quit).

This is Provincetown not Corporate America. They need to realized
this. Ask around and you all will see!

Support locals!
5:58 pm est 

Re: Candace Nagle

If I was Candace I'd be very afraid, now that Mikey likes
you! Look out for the turn around.
5:54 pm est 

Re: Murchison Property

The facts about what the Murchison property was going to do
was not told to any committee! Thats why they stop it from going any
further! How did you know that the owner was not going to change
anything! And by the way, if the town committees did not stop it when
they did, the plan was to build more homes on that hill than what is
going to be built now thanks to the Planning, Conservation, and
Historical commissions!
5:53 pm est 

From: Michael Rogovsky

I was in New York over the weekend and this is what is written on the
sides of the police Cruisers: Respect, Courtesy, Professionalism.

I'd like to see this expressed towards our police department when
people write; one can write and disagree and not be disagreeable. Our
police officers have families here.

Michael Rogovsky
5:51 pm est 

Something Doesn't Add up Here!

Kerry Adams, of course, doesn't have anything to gain
financially being on the School Committee. But what is his MOTIVE? He
does have two kids in Ptown going to school. I would HOPE that is NOT
why he is on the School Committee board so that HIS children get the
SAME location education as HE did.

Likewise for MS Nagle. She has been criticizing the PIer since 2007
with concrete results. Only recently has she brought attention to the
discounted slips to out of towners etc. So, exactly what was she
benefiting from in 2007 and 2008?

How would she benefit if the Pier finally used that barge she has
Complained about not being used for example? Dese she need piles
driven?

Something doesn't add up here!
5:49 pm est 

Re: Candace Nagle-Character Assassination

Ms. Candace Nagle wants one thing--good government. It is what we all
want for the town. Why should her character be called into question at a
selectmen's meeting; and one which is televised as well?

It seems to me that Ms. Nagle is after facts--and it is obvious to
everyone that she being stymied every inch of the way--why?

Michael Rogovsky
3:37 pm est 

Re:Thanks to the Town's Commissions and Committees

You're either a real bad liar or are really dumb on the facts. The
conscom and histerical committees did nothing to stop over
development of the Murchison property. The new owner had those
intentions from the biginning but the committees didn't want to hear
the facts, they just got led by their noses by "powers that be" in
the background and acted extrememly poorly. Once they opened their
eyes and ears and listened to what the new owner wanted to do, they
agreed it was the best plan. Give credit where credit is due and it's
certainly not due to either of the commissions.
2:23 pm est 

A New Topic, Not Town Related, But it Affects Locals

How come when Tuesday rolls around and the mobile gas station on
Bradford lowers prices by 6 cents, ( 6 cents off on Tuesday) the
night before, they raise the price by 5 cents.  Sometimes they raise
the price on Tuesday morning?  Then the next day, the price drops
down 4 or 5 cents?

I asked them today, and the person behind the counter couldnt explain
it.   He said it was MARKET CONDITIONS around town?  Well, the gas
station across the street was the same price for the past week and
Cumberland farms on Shankpainter road was the same price for the last
week.  BOTH of those stations were $1.759.   AND the mobile gas
station was $1.759 UNTILL today, and now they are $1.799 less the 6
cents.   

IS THIS A SCAM?  HOW DO WE REPORT THIS?

A Large pebble on the beach
2:21 pm est 

To: Only Pebble on the Beach

My dearest pebble, It is best to be thought a fool than to
open ones mouth and prove it, read your own last blog and tell us
what you think.
2:16 pm est 

Thank You For Sharing "Only Pebble on the Beach"--

You must be the employee of the year. I hope that there is a page
dedicated to you and your words of wisdom and your photo in the 2009
Town Book.
2:14 pm est 

A Gem Among Us
 
Attention every one! Why isn't the Only Pebble on the Beach
the Assistant town manager?

The ONLY Pebble on the Beach has such insight into the budget
situation of the town and had pondered it thoughtfully and deduced
what actions are the most beneficial to all of us and  can even show
us how we can get raises and even hire more people.

What a wonder! What managerial acumen! The Only Pebble can balance
the budget and can show the top managers how to best run the town.
What a gem--we are blessed to have such an individual within our
mists.

Do you think that we are even worthy to gaze upon such intelligence
and insight?
2:12 pm est 

The Below Posting is an Email I Just Sent With a CC to Mr. Kerry Adams

To:  The Board of Selectmen and Town Manager,

For the last month, I have expressed my concern about the policy of
the Provincetown Public Pier Corporation and the tenancy application
process for the subsidized floating docks. I have asked that you
authorize a full and impartial review of my researched concerns.

Last night, Provincetown Public Pier Corporation director Kerry Adams
personal attack on my character in his public statement was
unwarranted and clearly an attempt to divert attention from the real
issues.

I have not called Mr. Adams character into question even though he
has a direct financial interest on MacMillan Pier writing insurance
policies of tenants.

As you know, I requested all 38 tenant applications, boat
registrations and insurance policies of the floating docks.

The Pier Corporation only provided me with seven insurance policies.
But among them was an insurance policy written by Mr. Adams. In
addition, Mr. Adams has written the insurance policy for one of my
tenants for years. The public does not know the full extent of Mr.
Adams financial interests on MacMillan Pier.

Yesterday, I submitted an appeal to the response of the Pier
Corporation and my request for public records. I cited not getting
all 38 tenant applications and boat registrations. I did not cite
getting only seven insurance policies.

My interest has never been how many insurance policies Mr. Adams has
written on MacMillan Pier and been financially compensated in order
to publicly charge him with a conflict of interest.  But how many
insurance policies have listed the Town of Provincetown and the
Provincetown Public Pier Corporation as additional insures. Receiving
only seven with none having the Town of Provincetown and the
Provincetown Public Pier Corporation as additional insures is of
concern to me.

Lastly, Kerry Adams has two children in the Provincetown school
system and is also on the School Committee. Never has a town official
publicly charged him with a conflict of interest and tried to
undermine his credibility as a member of the School Committee and
member of our community.

Yours in Good Government,



Candace Nagle
2:10 pm est 

Re: Candace Nagle vs Kerry Adams

Yes, Kerry Adams has two children in the Provincetown
school system. So tell me, how does that create a financial gain for
him? Conversely, Candace Nagle owns a float space on the town pier
and works feverishly to see the piers rates increased. Who stands to
gain??
2:04 pm est 

Who Are We?

A friend has described Provincetown as a place where there
are still people attuned to nature but it is also a place of people
who are misfits and parental disappointments.

From my experience, I'd also say its a place of people who have
great ambitions and plans until their "high" wears off.

Its a place where dynamic people are concerned about Provincetown
losing its winter population and being a boarded up ghost town...and
then we hear about the Poetry at Napis. We shall see how things pan
out in the years to come.
2:02 pm est 

Not in Our Backyard!

The recession is killing jobs at an alarming pace, with
tens of thousands of new layoffs announced Monday by some of the
biggest names in American business  Pfizer, Caterpillar and Home
Depot.

And in Provincetown, Town workers vote no to only being laid off for
three weeks next year.
1:59 pm est 

Things to Come

The town workers will have no choice to but to take three
week furloughs--how can we pay them if there is no money? If it is an
override, it will be voted down at the voting booth.

Pay raises, benefit increases etc. are a thing of the past; Pay cuts
and hiring freezes are the order of the day.
1:56 pm est 

To Everyone Who is Setting the Record Straight

Thank you!

Its about time we put an end to the lies & hate on this blog! Its one
thing to question, but to make up things and make others look bad is
another! For the folks who have questions, ask the town (ie townhalls
phone number is listed!) To the other trouble makers, get some mental
help. You have too much anger, the sky is not falling, we will find a
way! But we have to help each other in these bad times! We are all we
have.
1:53 pm est 

Thanks to the Town's Commissions and Commitees

The Murchinson house & property will not be changed and will be
restored to its original plan. And the surrounding property will be built with
style and not over built! Where do the bloggers on here come up with
so much anger & hate! The planning board, Historical commission and
the Conservation commission did a job well done by stopping what
could have been a total build out of 2 Commercial street!

Thanks to all
11:59 pm est 

Monday, January 26, 2009

From: The Only Pebble on the Beach

I'll begin tonight by sharing the Union Vote...
the majority voted a big fat NO to Sharon's request for the few of us
to bail out the rest...
I would be remiss if I didn't mention the 3 yes votes...
2 are Sharon toadies and the other is rich....
So that's that...until the next time she wants to use us.

thought I would comment on this posting

***Just read the rantings of the last pebble on the beach with such a
complete lack of respect for anyone in a position of authority.Talk
about a bitter, disgruntled worker who has no idea of the larger
picture. Imagine the work ethic of this individual. What a life of
complete desperation****

Wow, someone must have a stone in their shoe!
I doubt if anyone else thought I was ranting, but I'm sorry if I so
disappointed you.
As for my lack of respect for authority, as you so eloquently stated...
If I've Learned anything in my long life, it's that respect must be EARNED.
You are quite right that I have NO respect for certain Dept. Heads,
Elected Officials,
or a Town manager who panders to majority while selling out the minority.

As for what you call "the larger picture" can you clarify that? Could
it be this immediate large world, of small town corruption and greed?
Would you like us all to start walking in lockstep now, following the
leader? When are they going to start handing out the patches?
Enough with the empty shots...
If you don't have the imagination to use a name when posting...try
using a number...
You sound like a #271 to me!

With that, I remain,

A Happy Town Employee,
The ONLY Pebble on the Beach
10:52 pm est 

Histerical Commission

Nice to see they are all level headed and understanding of the
frustration of the general public and all the commissions decisions.
What a joke that commission is. Jump on the Murchison property as
someone else leads them by the nose (or other parts!) and screw it up
and they wonder why the public jumps them.
10:12 pm est 

Those Living in Glass Houses Should Not..............

Tonight Kerry Adams faulted Miss Nagel for not having
credibilty because she owns a float.
What a hypocrite! Adams has two kids in the school system. and on the
School Committee.Therefore, he is not credible either!

The attorney general should look at a town employee,  our
Harbormaster, who also works for the semi-autonomous pier
corporation.

Talk about a conflict!
8:48 pm est 

Our Efforts Determine Our Towns Worth

What is important is for citizens to stay involved to know
what is going on and to inform each other and explain your position
and to ultimately do what is best for Provincetown and we citizens.
 
This is our town..our home...lets make it the best that it can be
with the best possible government.

Cheers to all
8:45 pm est 

From: Michael Rogovsky

I come to "shout out" for information. The Peter Francese
report and the Department of Revenue report are a must read. (I can't
download the school report on my computer.)

There is information here about issues involving the town and if one
is interested, you know that there are folks in town hall or on the
finance committee to go and speak to.

Just ignore the gossip or the name calling etc. and go for the
information on the blog. What one discovers is that there are other
people who feel the same way that you do about an issue or take
umbrage at being wronged or support actions with which you agree.

Of course I've changed my mind about things--now that the board of
selectmen have broadened the categories for residents who can get
affordable housing--I'm happy for my fellow citizens who are now
eligible if their apartment goes condo etc.

Now I applaud the board of selectmen and the town manager for making
a proposal for CPC funds to go towards the renovation of town hall.

As a taxpayer and a citizen I know that many other people feel as I
do about this and now it is up to the CPC committee.

I promise not to blog tomorrow--

Thank you for your patience,

Michael Rogovsky
8:42 pm est 

Did You Catch the Latest Mikey:

While I was away...  ...walking by Trader Joe's..."

Where were you Mikey? Trader Joe's is up by the Cape Cod Mall.
8:39 pm est 

Local Aid Cuts

TM Lynn was probably not too concerned about reduction in state aid
to Provincetown as we are already grossly short changed.
8:38 pm est 

Re: Skipping over Mikey

Dear Webmaster:

Michael R has offered the option to us of not reading his posts. I'd
like to take him up on the offer. To that end could you please title
his future missives: "From: Michael Rogovski, please hit page down"

Thank you for your consideration

Webmaster Comment:

As Mr. Rogovsky signs his name, It is suggested that readers can
make the  "to read or not to read" decision on their own.

Your concern is appreciated, however as long as Mr. Rogovsky
adheres to the stated policy of MYPACC, we are obliged to treat
his postings similar to all others. Where it is abridged we will
act accordingly.

Thank you for the suggestion.
8:36 pm est 

Sometimes Silence is Golden

Just read the rantings of the last pebble on the beach with
such a complete lack of respect for anyone in a position of authority.

Talk about a bitter, disgruntled worker who has no idea of the larger
picture. Imagine the work ethic of this individual. What a life of
complete desperation.

Please! Put a lid on it.
6:27 pm est 

The Capacity to Change is a Great Characteristic

We are in a depression--and all you can focus on is another
blogger annoying you because you disagree with his views.

I wish that Bush changed his mind about the Iraq war rather than
holding it closer than a bible. Get over yourself as well.
6:16 pm est 

The Only Pebble on the Beach?

YOUR A WASHASHORE ON A SAND BAR     !!  there are plenty of
pebbles here, take your prozac and find a job!!!
6:14 pm est 

Yes, I'm Posting Again

Being away for a short time and then returning to a town surrounded
by such contemplative beauty is truly a thing of joy.

So much is taken for granted here it seems. Yes I was posting too
much--but how nice for you that this is the worst thing that you can
say about your day!

Yet you have choices and you can skip reading what I post and you can
leave your computer and drive to Herring Cove and see a marvelous
sunset.

While I was away, I walked past familiar stores and the only person I
saw in some were the owners. And yet there was a line outside of
Trader Joe's and people were only allowed in as someone left!

So yes, I'm posting again--and signing my name--and I am indeed happy
that the selectmen and Town Manger are asking for $2 million for the
renovation of town hall from the CPC committee.

We are in a dire economic situation and it is with heavy hearts that
Budget cuts are being made which are affecting peoples lives--so let
us persevere and live with these budget cuts and  hope that this
recession truly is short lived.

Michael Rogovsky
6:12 pm est 

Attn: Mike R (and others),

Please make no mistake about the picture I am trying to draw, many of
you may be absolutely right while others are not and while a
selective few (ACCORDING to the rumor mill) are nothing but
aggitators. I am trying to see if we can all realize the times before
us are very stressful, very frustrating and good god knows what else
and see if we can aleviate that.

I have my opinions too as well as questions but I don't think posting
them here in some of the ways I have read is going to solve them. A
matter of fact from general conversations (and not just at the cop
shop either), some of these blogs have angered people (and not
because of the issues, right, wrong or indifferent).

What did everyone do before this site was made avialable ? If people
still want to do what they have been, god-bless them as I'm not going
to be this sites godfather. I just want to take the bull by the horn
and see if a community I have lived in for approx 40 years do what
they do on that program called "Extreme Makeovers". If not, I thank
you all and good luck.

Thank you,

Roger Green

6:09 pm est 

SURE!

Get on a Town Board, volunteer!!! You betcha! Then,
after you've been sworn in and tried to do your best, the likes of
Candace Nagle will slam you on this blog and call you "corrupt" or a
"thief"! Sure, sign up, volunteer... today... mmm hmmm!
6:06 pm est 

Truth be Told to Just the Facts ...Again...

Here are your facts:

1. Go to the town government website and read the December 17, 2008
Historic District Commission Minutes and read under the
Adminsitrative Reviews Section.

2. The work being done on Town Hall as it relates to "historic" deals
with the historic aspects of the building, nothing about the building
is being historically altered except "replacing in kind" which does
not require a formal public hearing, only an administrative review.
At this administrative reveiw (12/17/08) the plans were presented and
the work was explained to the committee, the committee as a whole
approved of what was being done in regards to a historical nature.
This is supported according to the bylaws that were adopted by this
town (April 1998) at Town Meeting. The Historic District Commission
is following the procedure it has always followed. You can also find
the bylaws for the Historic District Commission on the town website
and or from the Permitting Office if you need more explanation or
"facts".

As far as building/ structural permits etc that does not fall under
the Historic District Commission's perview. So whatever issues you
have regarding that is quite different. Please do not drag the
Historic District Commission in to this personal "crusade" that you
are carrying when the commission has done only what was required and
expected of them.

If your going to report and claim you are "just the facts" then get
your facts right other wise you are just another shoot from the hip
blogger who is only concerned with thier own personal interests and
self inflated ego.

As an editorial note: thats the problem with this so called blog, it
allows for the spread of misinformation, rumor and innuendo with
nothing ever being substantiated. It is also not a blog its a
glorified bulletin board. A blog is where the webmaster posts
accurate information based on their knowledge and experience
regarding issues of the day, of which in the all the time I ve been
reading I have never seen the blog owner sign his name to anything
other than "webmaster".

Truth be Told
6:05 pm est 

I Confess

I am a plumber and I get one of thetaxpayer slips too.
6:00 pm est 

Mikey? Is That You?? Again!!

And here I thought you said your goodbyes. Couldn't stay away could
ya? Have to keep reading your name over and over and over and over
dont cha big fella? Get a life puleeeeze!

Hey Roger, don't listen to him, he'll lull you into a false sense of
security and then he'll blind side you when he changes his opinion
AGAIN and AGAIN and AGAIN! He changes his mind more often than you
change your socks!
1:20 pm est 

Many of Us Are Tired of Reading Ranting Postings From the Same Individuals on This Blog

It is obvious that you have your own agenda and your only goal is to
be critical and counter productive.  You find fault with town officials,
employees and volunteer board members, but what are you doing
for a community? There are many productive things you could be doing
with your time, but most of your energy is spent posting unsubstantiated
facts, lies, rumors and spewing hatred.  It is no secret who you are and
you should be shamed to hold your head up in town.  Our community
deserves better than what you have been dishing out for months. 
President Obama called upon all Americans to volunteer, to pitch in
and give back. Look around town and see how your volunteer efforts
will be appreciated. Community service wont just lift your spirit; it could
help balance the town budget in hard times.  We should do our share a
nd stop spending time griping.
1:17 pm est 

Dear Len Clingham, Chair of the Pier Corporation

The truth will come out as to whom you have allowed subsidized slips
on the backs of Provincetown taxpayers all these years.

For starters, perhaps you can tell us why the subsidized rates
offered to our commercial fishermen are offered to a lawyer who
submitted a fishing permit good for only three days in 2008 and who
lives mid-cape instead of helping a decent and hardworking fisherman
like Alex Brown? You are a lawyer too, aren't you?

Your application proccess will be transparent and the loopholes you
offer will be closed. Period.

No citizen who is helping to support our fishermen with their taxes
should have to pay $135 to find out who is on those slips.

By the way,

The ADA lift on the main passenger float has been broken for years.
You are setting the town up for yet another lawsuit.

Could someone get our Disabilities Commission on the phone?
1:10 pm est 

To: Truth be Told

Upon closer investigation, it has been brought to my attention
that the construction taking place at town Hall was indeed approved
by the Historic District Commission, however, not by the usual process
of full commission review of the requesting body's plans and specifications
relative to historical impact, but by the less rigorous process of Administrative
Review thereby negating the need for public noticing out. The matter was
treated as though the renovations were of a minor nature.

Administrative Review is a process usually applied for minor renovations
e.g. window replacement with duplicate product) not for the single largest
construction project in Provincetown.
 
The tactics used are indeed outside of the spirit of the law and may very well be
outside of the law itself.

Restfully yours,

Just the Facts
1:07 pm est 

Re: "To Just the Facts and Town Hall"

To Truth be Told:

I beg to differ with your claim that the Historic District Commission has met
with the Town's representative and have discussed the renovation of town
Hall in any official Commission meeting, where approvals were formally issued
and challenge your claim of the existence of minutes supporting same.

The matters discussed in my previous postings are factual and there have been 
no noticing-out (publishing) of any permits concerning the Town Hall renovations.
Additionally, no abutters were notified officially for public comment, as required
by law.

To pretend that due process has been followed is a mockery of justice......but then
again, this is the norm for Provincetown, isn't it?

All arguments aside, the matter will be brought forth to the State for resolution and
at that point resolved one way or the other.

I await substantiation of your claim of corroborating minutes.

Respectfully ours,

Just the Facts
12:34 pm est 

Tax Non-Necessities For Extra Dollars

An extra tax on liquor/beer, porno, snack foods and lottery tickets,
would raise needed money. If folks have money to waste on purchaces
like these, let them pay extra tax as well.
Increase the fine for those slobs who don't pick up after their dogs
to $500 per poop.
12:19 pm est 

Re: Candace Nagle

Does anyone want to wager that Candace's 10% deficit
savings will only be had as the result of a suggested price hike on
the pier? Who needs commercial fishermen in P-town any more Candace?
They are a dying breed any way so lets price em out of here! You go
girl!!!

One thought... Candace suggests raising rates on the MacMillan Pier
floating docks to raise needed funds for the town. Curious isn't it
that just a few feet from those very same floating docks sits Candace
Nagle's very own Float Space that she rents for a pretty penny during
the season? Isn't that the very same float space that Candace now has
for sale? Let's all just imagine for a moment then what higher rates
on the town's floating docks will mean to Miss Nagle's Float Space
(that she pays the town $0.00 property taxes on)...

CA-CHING!!! $$$!!!$$$
12:16 pm est 

Hi Roger Green

I just read the excellent news that the board of selectmen and the
town manager want to use the CPC funds for town hall.

We are living in a new fiscal reality and the community has to make
sacrifices just as individuals do. Furloughs, reduced hours, cut
backs are a new reality.

Get ready, Roger, to get hit with slings and arrows from some folks
who post here.
When this is posted, you will see what I mean.

Michael Rogovsky
11:51 am est 

Re: "So Here is My Challenge......"

We can make more money by selling surplus property. We can
make more money by requesting that every town entity reduce and
consolidate where possible and search for grants to cover even some
of its expenses.

Affected organizations can actively try to recruit volunteers to
replace reduced staff due to budget cuts.
10:00 am est 

Put Away the Credit Card Mentality

Our elected and appointed town officials have no choice but
to furlough town workers and reduce the hours of operation of the
library and disband the community center--plus more.

These are tough fiscal times and there is simply No Money to pay for
these services as we had in the past.

Please wake up and face the reality of the new fiscal world in which
we are now living. The life of easy borrowing and easy spending is
dead.
9:58 am est 

Re: Public Pier Corporation

The Pier Corp. doesn't decide moorning rates... the Selectmen do.
9:55 am est 

To: Just the Facts and Town Hall

May I politely ask where are you getting your information or should I
say mis-information?

The Historic District Commission has met with town representatives
regarding the work on town hall and has approved the work on this
historic building. I would refer you to the committee's minutes to
see that has indeed happened.

May I advise that before you make any more of a fool of yourself you
should get your "facts" correct before posting.

And finally after you do read the minutes you can post back on here
how wrong you were and apologize to the entire Historic District
Commission and their chair John Dowd.

Just the facts indeed...(shaking my head)

Signed,

Truth Be Told
9:52 am est 

Re: "Failure of Leadership" Blogger

You are correct I do work at the Cop shop and I posted my name
because I felt confident in what I said was an attempt to bring us
together rather than see the wall of seperation get bigger and
bigger. You on the other hand  shows signs of an axe to grind.
 
Hopefully the wall I was hoping to see shrinkage of obviously won't
exist with you and that's okay as not everyone will either feel the
same way as I do or agree for whatever reason. I did not post my blog
to question wether someone is right or wrong but instead to have each
other seek alternative means to the issues first. I will continue to
post a blog with my name as I have the testicle fortitude to stand
behind my words and not hide which will only prove a point I have
already stated.

Thank you,

Roger Green
9:50 am est 

Just Listen to Selectmen Anderson and Coutour...The Basic Fundamentals Are Sound

Oh you pesky nay-sayers who complain about cutting hours
and people losing their jobs.

Don't you know that there is a building boom in town of probably 100
affordable housing (between 90 Shank Painter Rd and Ted Malone's
property development) and lots of jobs for all of these folks?

Just listen to Selectmen Anderson and Coutour.

So, you lose one job; just pick up another. And we should advertise
all of the stores that are open and the restaurants that one can
enjoy in Provincetown in the winter.
9:45 am est 

Sacrifices Are Necessary

When millions of people are losing their jobs and their
homes, The last pebble on the beach should consider the alternatives.

Look at it this way: a week off for the July 4th, a week off for
Labor Day or Columbus Day or Veterans day or Thanksgiving.

We all are making sacrifices and as a town we must make sacrifices
too by reducing the hours of operation of the library if necessary
and having town employees take furloughs among other belt tightening
steps.
9:42 am est 

So Here is My Challenge to Everyone on This Blog!

How can the town start to make some money! In the eighties the late
Paul hristo found a way, by having the parking lot & meter monies to go
back into the general fund! We need some new ideas! Think outside of
the box, it will help us all! We have many great minds here, lets use
them! Put every thought on the table no matter how crazy it might be!
We may come up with something nobody has considered before! I'll
throw one out to get things started, many states and towns have tolls
on the highways, maybe one at the bridges?!
9:39 am est 

You Are Way Wrong!

To the blogger who has a bug up her/his     about townhall
not having permits and thinks that nobody is watching whats going on!
The historical commission which is different than John Dowds historic
district commission, is also the building committee for townhall,
where did you get your information on what products will be used on
townhall? You are WAY WRONG! The slate roof is not going anywhere and
the windows have been shipped out of town to be RESTORED! And they
will be put back and will work like when they were new. The
historical commission has and will be on top of this project until it
is finished. If you have any other concerns about townhall just ask
the commission or the town manager. Better yet the commission needs
more volunteers! You seem to have a lot of interest in the renovation
so why not help out instead of trying to find fault with anything
that the town is doing to make your town and mine a better place!
9:36 am est 

A Failure of Leadership Hampers Any Possible Positive Solution

I'm another one who doesn't understand Sharon Lynn's
statement about Provincetown not getting any large cuts from the
State...Why? What makes Provincetown any more special than any other
town in the Commonwealth?

Could it be that we are so, so special because we have such a
do-nothing board and TM? That, as long as they whine about how "hard"
it is to read the budget (Michele)or as long as Sharon thinks she
will solve the problem by once again...like last year...demand that
the Union vote to cut their own negotiated and well deserved pay
raises, and take an unpaid 3wk furlow...so she can (once again)try to
balance the budget on the backs of the lowest paid employees...

Tomorrow morning is the Union vote at 10am...That vote will be NO...
At 10:30am Sharon has her usual Dept-Head meeting...
Now comes the poker game in earnest...All those big heads will start
dealing the $$$ around...as usual, DPW and the School getting the
most$$$ because they have the biggest departments and the most
obnoxious department heads.What is left over goes right to the voters
in the form ofover rides...and once again, the voters are screwed.

As others have said here...Provincetown needs Leadership but it
doesn't exist on either the BOS or in the TM's office.
This board continues to be the ONLY forum where the honest postings
help the citizens...unlike any other place in town.

On a lighter note; the police cars have been painted so it won't be
so glaringly evident to the taxpayer when they are used for that gift
to the cops "Special Details" in another town.

I notice we have a new poster who insists on using his real name...he
should add that he works at the Cop Shop!

That said, I remain,

The ONLY Pebble on the Beach
11:23 pm est 

Sunday, January 25, 2009

Town Hall Oversight

The Historic Commission is involved in all aspects of the building
restoration.

It amazes me that some on here would think that the Historic
Commission would ignore Town Hall when they made such a stink about
the Murcheson Property.

Vinyl windows, vinyl siding, vinyl gutters...give me a break.
10:06 pm est 

Too Long Silent

The Building Commissioner is in violation of state law. He is 
guided by covenants which are established not only by the Town, but
also by the State.

He is obliged to enforce both bodies of regulations, without regard
for status or influence and without prejudice. 

The fact that he has failed to act responsibly in the case of Town Hall
restoration is a matter that should first be brought before the State
Board of Building Commissioners, as in the case of the previous Building
Commissioner Doug Taylor.

Without proper oversight of this historic structure, there exist ample
opportunity for graft and circumvention. Given the modest amount of
development taking place currently in our town, the Commissioner should
have more than enough time to provide the proper oversight to guarantee
that taxpayers monies and property are being properly utilized. 

We have a regulatory body...the Historic District Commission, where are
they in all of this? I have not heard or seen one word from that august
group concerning the matter of Town Hall. Ultimately, they have the
authority to require the Commissioner to act on their findings. Action
should be demanded of the Chair of that Commission, John Dowd.

At the least, the Town should be represented by an independent on-site
Clerk-of -the-Works, who would provide proper and contenuous oversight.

If the Historic District Commission Chairman cannot or will not perform
the functions of his office he should step down from the Chair.

Letters to the State Building Commissioner's office should be written describing
this matter.

Where is Mikey when you need him?

I will do my part and ask the same of all readers of this blog.

Respectfully,

Just the Facts
10:05 pm est 

Courtesy Dock ADA Compliant?

Do you really think the feds would pay for an ADA compliant
gangway that was not?  Pay Attention people, not everyone in govt.
are total fools.
9:12 pm est 

No One or Institution is Above the Law

Without Permits and Applications, We'll Not Know What Town
Hall Will Look Like

We have no idea what did happen to the windows. Will they be repaired
professionally and replaced? Or will vinyl windows be installed? What
will the roof look like? Architectural shingles or slate? You will
not know until it is a done deal. And perhaps we could all
shockinglyfind that there is AZEK moulding, AZEK rails, AZEK
cornerboards and AZEK porches--synthetic wood alternatives. Would it
just be ironic to find classic polyurethane porch posts on our
historic town hall? But all of this is possible without regulation,
without application for the repairs and without application to the
Historic District Commission.

It is not simply a matter of fees. It is a matter of oversight,
regulations and attention to town rules.

The present work on Town Hall breaks all such rules. It a slap in the
face to anyone concerned with historic restoration. It involves more
than simply saying these words. The materials, type of repairs,
professional attention to restoration must be adhered to. Without
permits and approval from town regulatory boards, this action costing
millions makes a mockery of all historic renovation rules and makes a
mockery of our regulatory boards.
9:09 pm est 

Greed Will be the Death of Us All.

Deerg lliw eb eht htaed fo su lla.

Bird on a roof
9:06 pm est 

Geez!

I thought the state grant for the courtesy float
required that it be ADA approved.

Does the One Who Knows know the answer
12:38 pm est 

Here's What's Tiring: Old Managing

There's a need for a breath of fresh air. If Obama has brought
anything to the nation, it is the hope and desire and the reality for
mature leadership and responsibility and for insightful action. I
yearn for just a little bit of this here in Provincetown. Mature
leadership or just leadership would be a refreshing change. Old
"managing" just will not do. I wait to see and will judge the elected
triumvirate--Coture, Anderson and Lynn--by their actions. What of the
others? so far, they're been more like cut-out stand-ins for
themselves. I wait and see. I hope my hope doesn't shrivel like a
dead oak leaf twirling on a grey branch.
12:34 pm est 

Re: Let's All Help

I agree 100% with that. It's always easier to sit home and complain
on this blog about what he/she thinks is right or wrong. It's even
easier to throw the knives at someone when he/she thinks they are
making a difference in our town.

From my very own experience from living in this town is, if 50 people
were disgrunted with something that was said or done, 50 others are
supporting it. What puzzles me is how a small community such as ours
can not seem to come together and make a difference, instead the
impression is to find as much fault in each other as we can then it is to
find ways or options to work it out.

I would like to think everything I do in a course of a day is perfect and
that I'm never wrong but it's not that way. At least in my case I am willing
to listen and work with those I need to the best I can. There are always
going to be issues that are not going to please everyone, and that's not
because it's right or wrong, it's because we may see it differently and that
will always be on all of our tables but how we approach it and fix
it is where we all need to do it together.

Complaing or attacking each other on this blog only makes things worse,
opens more wounds and from what I have read since the day this site opened
up has yet to solve some of the greater issues some of us have had concerns
about.

I am not saying for those who have posted their blogs here you
are right or wrong, I am just asking for everyone to get on the same
train and find alternative ways to bring us all together and make
Provincetown a home and a town you are proud to live in before it's
too late.

It's not going to be easy (espicially under the economic times we are
living under),but many issues can be addressed in other effective ways
I'm sure.

Thank You,

Roger Green
12:32 pm est 

Thank You "Let's All Help".........

........for your interest in my increasing
my participation in community service through local government.

I hope you, town officials and Provincetown taxpayers will embrace my
initiative to cut the budget deficit by over 10 percent which will
could save two town employee jobs. I will be presenting my proposal
tomorrow night to the BOS and TM.

Yours in Good Government,

CN
12:25 pm est 

Another Season

Folks, it's the end of January already. Isn't it about time
to turn off the lights and take down that lobster pot "tree?"
12:23 pm est 

Webmaster, You're Titles are Great

You do have a knack. You're titles always recap the issue someone is
making. It is concise, sometimes funny, and always on target. It's
not easy titling some piece of writing. But you do it well.

Webmaster Comment:

Thank you
12:21 pm est 

Successful SKIP Poetry Reading

For the record, the poetry reading to benefit SKIP went
very well tonight and those of us who attended were lucky enough to
hear some fine poetry about Provincetown and life in other locales.

One of the poets, Peter Saunders from Chatham, just won the Times of
London's prestigious prize for poetry and he read that poem this
evening.

I know a reading is likely not a hot-ticket idea for entertainment on
a Saturday night for many people but it is always nice when folks
support the artists that were, and arguably are, the vital element
that makes this town glimmer as brightly as it does on the world map.

Thanks to those who came to hear the good works of Dennis Rhodes and
Peter Saunders.

Dwayne Raymond
12:19 pm est 

"ADA Approved Ramp For the Courtesy Float"

I challenge the Pier Corp to show that the ramp for the courtesy
float is ADA approved.  They need to go to Boston and see what an ADA
approved ramp looks like on a float that goes up and down with the
tide.  The only thing that this ramp is approved for, "skate boarders
wanting to fly off into to water on a hot summer day".

One who knows.
12:16 pm est 

There is a Difference Between Blogging and Running for Office

If you run for office and you are elected, then you assume a
responsibility to do the work of the town. You assume the duty to
make critical decisions. As Bloggers we can, if we want, point out
many deficencies and problems, but we are not the implementers. they
are and they should act well and responsibly. Therein lies the
present problems with this board. It seems rather ineffective, limp,
and too wishy washy. As some have commented, it is the Selectmen who
should make the hard decisions about the budget and not leave the
tough decisions to voters. They have their role and their
responsibility. But sometimes, they seem to miss this aspect of their
position. Sadly, it is a weak board.
12:14 pm est 

Re: Town Hall Reparis are Illegal Without a Building Permit

I agree. Although it makes almost no sense to have the town pay a
building permit fee to the town for repairs on a town building, I do
think the plans should be in the hands of the historic commission for
review and approval. Does anyone really know what will be done in
detail? Will the weighty roof be replaced and if so, will it be real
slate again or a lightweight alternate? Where is the oversight of the
commission? What kind of windows will be installed and what will they
look like from the outside? How about the steel fire escape? Ugly as
hell but historically significant. Where's the oversight here? What's
good for one is good for all. Fair is fair.
12:12 pm est 

Saturday, January 24, 2009

Let's All Help!

I think that if anyone who has good ideas for the town to
rideout this fiscal downturn should get on the Fin Com or run for the
selectman seat coming up! I believe that what this town lacks are
having people with a new vision of how the town can make money, on
the boards. We can not change anything just sitting at home typing!
Come on Candace, Mikey, Astrid etc. Lets all help!
5:19 pm est 

What Are You Doing Other Than Blogging?

Instead of asking the selectmen what they are doing to
balance the budget, what are you doing other than blogging? It takes
a village of doers not bloggers!If you only bring up the problems
without an answer, your wasting our time. See a shrink, you have to
much anger, From what I see is that the selectmen are doing the best
they can as a unpaid volunteer board!
5:17 pm est 

Sharon and Deval Patrick in the Same Conversation?

Now that makes no sence, Deval is a hard line leader of this wonderful
state and Sharon is a meak and mild town leader {for the time being}
of a sand bar. Sharon and Deval Patrick in the same paragraph? now thats
funny.
5:14 pm est 

For Slippery Fish

First of all welcome back to the blog!

We have missed your insight such as your recent posting:

Remember pier corp, what is appropriate for one is
appropriate for all.

You are correct as the law is on your side not the pier corp.:

Pursuant to 310 CMR 9.07(1), a city or town implementing 310 CMR 9.07
may not discriminate against any citizen of the Commonwealth on the
basis of residency, race, religion, sex disability or other illegal
distinction when granting annual permits for the placement on a
temporary basis moorings or other bottom anchored floats or rafts
located within the territorial jurisdiction of the municipality.

The Pier Corp cost us thousands of dollars just a few years ago
trying to defend a legal challenge of their charging non residents
higher mooring fees only to lose. The above case was cited in the
ruling in favor of the out of town resident who sued them.

So, order that nice Boston Whaler with the center console with your
affixed handicap sticker and apply for your dinghy dock permit early
before the summer rush!

Why they didnt insist for safety reasons alone that the disabled
woman use the ADA approved new courtesy float eludes me too!

cn
5:12 pm est 

What's Essential and What is Inessential

That's the question. What must we have. What do we need to have. And
then, with a critical eye and an objective eye, what services can be
cut or reduced? What positions can be eliminated or reduced to
half-time. What project and expenses can be denied during FY 2010?
But who will ask these questions? Who will dare ask what must be
asked? Not this group of whimps, I'm sorry to say, who sit as
selectmen. Yes, they sit and have meetings. Yes, get them cushions
for the petunias but shouldn't we be asking more of them? Like what
are you really doing? What long-term planning are you carrying out?
What financial expertise are you brining to the board? Here's where
high school math or grammar school arithmetic just isn't enough to
solve our economic problems. Sorry, but there is a need for an
educated economic approach that goes beyond sitting and having
meetings. You need to do something constructive.
1:06 pm est 

Salary Freezes Should be Mandatory

And that should be for everyone--and that means everyone for FY2010.
No salaray adjustments. No pay raises. No so-called adjustments for
administrators. Freeze all salaries as an emergency act and let's see
us reduce the deficit. This includes teachers, police, town employees
and all administrators. That would make sense in this economic
environment.

Or--make the cuts and let go of ten employees and three
administrative assistants. You can't it have it both ways. You cannot
have the budget you had last year and the year before. Balance the
budget with necessary reductions: either in pay or positions.
11:34 am est 

Why Would Provincetown be Hurt Less Than Average by Deval's Cuts to Local Aid
 
That statement by Sharon Lynne makes no sense. Why would we be
somewhat spared? Again, is this the "we're special" mentality that
gets us into big time trouble.

Or just a way to wait for the many and monstrous overrides that will
be forthcoming. Since they never have the cahunas to cut department
budgets, they will once again leave it to the voters. And the lack of
cahunas goes for Fin Com as well. I will welcome the day when Fin Con
members stand up and not only say interesting financial things but
take action and vote against department budgets and special
purchases. But they go along with almost anything presented to
them. It's a shame. We could use their financial insight and courage.
11:32 am est 

Re: Cutting Positions

Let's start with the assistant recreation director.  It's definately
not needed.  As a matter of fact, the cuRrent director's hours could
be changed to benefit the kids schedules.  If there was more to do
there, you would probably get kids to go.  His winter hours could
certainly be different than his summer hours.  This is ridiculous. 
And now he needs help. 

GIVE ME A BREAK !
9:18 am est 

Live and Learn

I've never heard of a "facetious rat in the basement"// I
guess theirs a first for everything.

Fat Seal on the Beach
9:16 am est 

Friday, January 23, 2009

Re: Public Pier Cameras

Imagine the Selectmen applying for a grant for security
cameras. When asked by the public where they are going to put them,
they refused to answer!

Well Chief Jarran put the kibosh on getting involved in that lame
brain overkill 22 security camera idea the pier corp had. So, the
pier corp is going to strike out on its own and go for another grant
to get 7. Anything to avoid maintenance of the pier like pile driving
with the homemade barge. Anything!

The pier manager refused to say publicly where he is going to put
those cameras! is that because the cameras are not for security but
sting operations on the pier?

I am looking forward to my new digs this summer on the dinghy dock
with my cabin cruiser and affixed handicap sticker!
10:43 pm est 

Another Day...and Another Game-Changer!

Gov. Patrick has announced an additional $128 million cut in local
aid. We cannot yet know its precise impact, but I give the benefit of
doubt to Sharon Lynn and her capable finance director Alex Heilala,
who say that such reductions hurt Provincetown by less than average.

Still: any new cuts draw deep blood. The BOS's proposed reductions in
the $900K budget shortfall, reported in this week's Banner, may be
negated by the next reductions. If so, back to square one.

I cannot overemphasize the importance to their credibility and that
of the finance committee to DO THEIR #$&%! JOB instead of relying on
the voting booth via Prop. 2 1/2; or, more shamefully, our cutting
skills on the floor of Town Meeting.

This default inevitably leads to a town budget shaped by emotion
instead of the culture of informed judgment that ought to be passed
from department heads down through the town manager and the BOS. I
challenge anyone to defend their joint failure to accomplish this
last year. Again: shameful.

I am in a position to know how much fat remains - not necessarily in
personnel, but "things" that get rubber-stamped year-in and year-out
as vital to getting the job done. If only they were paper clips!

The folly therein is why some of us rail against ridiculous paint
jobs on police cars; and feel-good baubles like a Harley-Davidson
(which despite funding by a non-budget grant perpetuates a Marie
Antoinette mentality of spending by the police department, among the
biggest in town).

Except for the library, which is brilliantly managed, I cannot name
more than one other department that thinks in terms of paying its
way. Most others are seagull chicks who cheep "feed me feed me,"
while leaving taxpayers to dig up worms.

Defend their strategy all you like: it's a loser. As for our
delusional school board? Well, it's in a selfish class all its own.

Meawhile, town health care costs are uncontrollable (and what else
shall we do about our employees? Let them get sick so that they don't
show up?)

I am not among them, nor do I know any town employees well. But I
claim to have common sense. That's why I'll scream on the spot if I
see ANY new frills like police Segway scooters!

Meanwhile, I have noticed the debate below about Town Hall. I also
question the process for building the trailers, although I accept
that they were a necessary evil to repair our priceless Town Hall.
The speed and process felt murky and somehow unsavory, too much like
the Wall Street bailout.

Most officials who spend public money in this town seem honorable to
me; a very few, nefarious. But too many are JUST PLAIN TONE-DEAF!

-Laughing Last
10:40 pm est 

Hey Fat Seal!

Have you ever heard of the term "being
facetious"?

A Rat In The Basement
7:47 pm est 

Town Hall Reparis are Illegal Without a Building Permit

If anyone else in town was doing the type of repairs that are being
done at Town Hall, they would have to submit plans and designs to the
Historic District Commission to get approval of plans. The town is
not above the town regulations and not above the Historic District
Guidelines. They need regulatory approval. The town might also need
the approval of other boards as well before a building permit can be
issued by the Building Commissioner. But to act as if the Town itself
can do whatever without permits is to act illegally.
7:03 pm est 

Someone Has Lost Their Mind...

A woman with ms in a wheelchair using the dinghy dock ramp? A handicap
ramp has slope restrictions... That is a catastrophy waiting to happen... No
one is picking on a woman with ms... I am picking on a pier corp member
who obviously has brain damage. I can hardly walk down that slope in my
fishbowl on a good day and I am an able bodied fish. What a law suit
waiting to happen.  Does this mean that anyone with a handicap
sticker can park any size boat they want on the dinghy dock for $100.
a season? Remember pier corp, what is appropriate for one is
appropriate for all.

Slippery Fish (waiting on the bottom of the ramp with a catcher's mitt)
6:29 pm est 

To: Rat in the Basement

Boarding up Town Hall and leaving
it as is, is not only ridiculous, it is an idea that could just
destroy the whole building. The best thing to do is finish phase I -
new windows, roof,gutters, etc so that we can reduce the
deterioration of the building. Then if we are at a point where we can
not afford to fix the interior of the building. We keep it closed
until it can be finished. But to just board it up and leave it as is
would be disastrous.

A Fat Seal on the Beach
5:50 pm est 

Re: Dinghy vs Boat

This man first cited wanting to work off the dinghy dock
with not a dinghy but a boat to trap lobsters. Then mentioned his
wife. Is he selling the lobsters?

It is Len's obligation to properly screen people as tenants.not lash
out at those who question his vetting process.

Grow another layer of skin Len and stop hidding behind a woman!
5:48 pm est 

Someone Should Rename Provincetown to "Pottersville"..

....I can't believe people are complaining of helping a woman with Ms enjoy
what little of pleasure she's able to have.Shame on you CN...Shame on
you!!!!!!!
5:00 pm est 

Why Not Use the Courtesy Dock?

How come the ada approved  new courtesy dock won t be
appropriate for this man's wife?
I don t mind helping someone out but was that considered?

how did he get to his boat before?
2:46 pm est 

Mr. Len Should Write a Book:

HOW TO CREATE A MILLION LOOPHOLES ON A MUNICIPAL PIER


And leave the DPW alone!
2:44 pm est 

A 17' Foot Dinghy is a Boat!

I was at that meeting too. A 17' foot dinghy? Give me a
break. That's a boat! Pay the market rate for a slip as that vessel
is not appropriate for the dinghy dock and against dinghy dock
regulations.  Stop giving away the pier we pay for!

You are suppose to have a market based economy down on the pier
according to your enabling legislation. I have a friend who has a
handicapp permit for her car, owns a dinghy and ties up to the dinghy
dock. What's to prevent her from also getting a BOAT and demanding
the same treatment as this guy? You are forever setting bad
precedents down there!

You people are suppose to be running a business not a non profit!
12:02 pm est 

You Should Fall Off Your Chair

The gentleman that asked for a waiver at the PPPC meeting was not
ASKING FOR A WAIVER OF HIS DOCKING FEE. His dingy is a little wider
than most so that he can take his wife out for a ride in our
beautiful harbor. You see she has MS and at one time was a very
vibrant young women and is now confined to a walker and wheel chair.
The little extra width of his dingy is so that it is more stable for
her. So YOU WITH THE VERY CRUEL HEART that always seems to tell halve
the story owe the gentleman and his wife an apology, in fact this
might be a good time to apoligize to all the decent people that you
have told halve truths about.
11:38 am est 

Re: Ignoring the Law and a Total Lack of Leadership

A few weeks ago I brought up the question of there not
being a building permit for the work on Town hall. One blogger
suggested that the permits are now only being published once a month
in the banner. So I sat back and patiently waited. Well last night I
bought a paper, and in it are all of the building permit applications
submitted in the last month, and permits granted. None of them are
for Town Hall!

   Also, I never saw any permits being issued to build the Katrina
trailers. And now Mr. Braun has had very large permanent concrete
anchor blocks installed under the trailers so they wont blow away in
a stiff wind. And once again, no permits!

  Who do these people think they are that they can operate above
there own rules? When they are at some point forced to get these
permits will they be given the same outrageous fines Mr. Braun has
taken to giving people for building closets without permits?

   We all know you guys read this blog. How about coming up with some
answers? By ignoring us and pretending you don't read this blog and
hear all of these citizen complaints you are not helping yourselfs.

   I had long ago predicted that the cost of Town Hall renovation
would grow one small step at a time until it ends up being
astronomical. Well I saw something the other day that will prove my
point if it happens. I saw an employee of the Contractor talking with
what appeared to be a sales rep out on Ryder st. They had in the back
of a pickup truck a mock up of a section of gutter for the building.
It was made of copper. I agree that copper gutters are the corrrect
choich archtectualy for the building, but when the cost of them comes
in at $60,000 instaed of $10,000 for aluminum gutters that will do
the same job and last the same amount of time, I see a lake of cost
control. And this type of thing will continue.

  In the end this building is going to cost $20,000,000.

  And does anyone know that the BOS could have put a local hire
clause in the contracts for this job, meaning the contractor would
have to make available a certain percentage of jobs to local people.
But I really don't think that they are smart enough to do that.

   Yesterdays paper says that "Draconian" cuts may have to be made.
Well I think a "Draconian" cut could have been to keep Town Hall as
it was until we had a better financial picture. But of course if that
had been the decision then the only ones to suffer would be all those
"management" types.

    Alex H. says that they are thinking outside of the box. Well I
have a thought outside the box. Cancel the contract and board up Town
Hall until we are financially fit to take on this monumental
project.But I know no one in Town has the       to do that.

    So I have another "outside of the box suggestion" for you.
Department heads can take a pay cut, and middle management can be
fired. But of course no one has the       for that either.

    I have lots more but in the interest of brevity I will stop now.

A Rat In The Basement
9:43 am est 

Wasn't It Couture Who Complained About Lack of Posting of Zoning Minutes ABout A Year Ago?

I've looked as a blogger suggested. There are no minutes for us to
read for nine meetings of the Board of Selectmen. they have not
posted, as they must, the minutes for all these most recent meetings.
This is irresponsible. Spend time approving the minutes, please add
this to your agenda, and then Doug Johnstone will post them. But he
surely can't post what you haven't approved. Who's in charge here?
9:38 am est 

Stop Wasting Our Money!

I almost fell off my chair yesterday listening to a guy get a waiver
from paying his boat permit citing illness. He wants his WIFE to be
able to go out and enjoy his boat!

Could someone throw on a neck brace and see if the gals in the
parking dept will wave your parking permit fee so your wife or
husband can enjoy your car?

cn
9:36 am est 

Thursday, January 22, 2009

Re: Len

We have to spend $18K because Len Doesn't understanding
muncipal accounting!  Our lease with him is not just a suggestion god
darn It!..Typical lawyer always looking for loopholes! In his case
volunteerism is overrated.

Yes it time for change. It's time for provincetown taxpayers to show
him the door!
10:57 pm est 

We Should Have a Small Year-Round Core of Town Employees....

...and a temporary pool of seasonal town employees. Given our
economic situation and given the absence of   almost anyone here
in town this January--what are you guys doing in the Katrina
trailers??--this would make too much sense for the group that is
pretending to lead now.

I know you are in Boston but still break out of your comatose
thinking. Bush is not our leader. Nummy thinking is no longer in.
Intelligence, sharp responses, visions and action-packed behavior is
in. Wake up BOS. Wake up FinCom. Wake up poor Sharon. The world is
moving in one direction and you guys are moving in the other.
Shameful. But you could look back and change.
10:45 pm est 

Re: Len

Why is Len saying our DPW is corrupt?  So he is the one
ranting about them for the last two years.

Talk about calling the kettle black!
10:42 pm est 

In These Dire Economic Times

There should be NO department that has an increase in their FY2009
budget. No department. And if one did and if others do, then they
should have their marching orders from commander Lynn that such
requests would be untenable. This is not a time to try to get some
idiosyncratic things passed. This is the time to cut down to the
bone and that should be the mandate for each and every department--no
exception. And perhaps Sharon Lynn's department should be the first
to make significant cuts. Try managing on your own, my dear. Cut out
the Assistant at $60,000 and do the work yourself. We would all be
more proud of you.
10:36 pm est 

Sorry But I Disagree

Posting an opinion and even if being wrong is not "spewing
vitriol." Get a gripe babes. People post ideas, opnions, positions,
feelings and knowledge and they have that right. If they are wrong,
it does not mean they meant to be wrong. You do not understand Blogs,
sorry to say. You do not grasp democracy either. there is a freedome
to express, explain, and post.
10:33 pm est 

You Are So Right!

To "P-town Citizens are Being Ripped Off" everything you write is
right on. Thanks for your insight and understanding. You do see the
problems and I am thankful for your ability to point them out to us.
Thanks and thanks again.
10:32 pm est 

Just A Question

Is your reference to Len a reference to Len of the PIer Corp? Or is
it a reference to Len Enos? I couldn't quite tell but it would help
in deciperhing the problems you were relating to.
10:26 pm est 

Excuse Me, But Where Are the Minute of the BOS?

I do believe it was the Michele (with only one "l") Couture who
admonish some boards last year for not having timely posting of their
minutes. That was a valid point but....just take a look at the recent
Board of Selectmen minutes. That's right. You can't. They are not
posted. For the last Nine meetings, going back to early December,
there are no minutes of the BOs posted. That is wrong. That reflects
a lack of leadership. And yes, Couture, you are leading this pack of
stray cats or Itarod sled dogs or just a group of friends. Whatever
the BOS is, is a reflection of your ability to lead and organize and
give direction.

So where are the minutes of YOUR last nine meetings? Post them
please. Or else, let's just call you Mademoseille Inept.
10:25 pm est 

1 Administrator For Every 45 Residents!

What is up with this!
This is outrageous!
If half the administrators were laid off we would still have to many.
How did this happen?
Just wait till we have to pay their pensions... forever.......
Why?
What do they all do?

Someone needs to look into this.

We are facing tough times ahead, and the best the BOS can come up
with is to cut trash for the few people who stick it out through the
winter.

Maybe we should close the town for 6 months a year. We could save
half the budget. Then we would have the money to fix town hall.

There are 2 bosses for each employee. Something is wrong.

Why are their assistance, and secretaries sitting next to secretaries.

With all these bosses why did no one notice that town hall was falling down.

There needs to be restraint, and the example has to start from the top.

We should look at what other towns of 3000 have for an employee base,
and what there salaries are.

I knew that we had more town employees [per capita than anywhere else
in the state, but this is ridiculous.
10:23 pm est 

Who is Len?

What does 33 minutes mean? Am I missing
something? Or is it just Mikey blabbing again?
10:21 pm est 

Re: "To: Well Folks, It's Official and No Surprise" (5:45 pm)

You're the one who needs to think before you "blab," as you put it.

"Well Folks" makes a good point. Look at the budget request, and
you'll see that at least one BIG department requested an increase of
waaayy over 10% before being politely encouraged by Sharon Lynn to,
uh, take another look...

RIGHT, Chief Jaran?
10:19 pm est 

Re: Public Pier Cameras

The Expensive Camera Grant was the chief's idea not the
Pier Corp.  You should attend the meetings, or pay attention, before
you spew such vitriol!

In The Seats!
10:17 pm est 

To: Candace

Really, 3 unsigned blogs in a row!  Lay off the caffeine!

Starving seagull
10:16 pm est 

P-Town Citizens are Being Ripped Off

Has anyone ever noticed how other small towns with (populations) 
similar to Provintown are governed? Most do not have
such needless positions as a Recreation Director, Tourism Director,
Assistant to the Town Manager,School Superintendent and assistant,
as well as other assistants and employees up to the neck.  With few
necessary exceptions this town should be governed like other small
towns across the state.
 
Our elected officials are responsible for this outrageous
waste of taxpayers money. It is time for this to stop, beginning at
the top. With this town's enviable tax base none of the present
nonsense we are going through should be happening.  We have more than
enough money for this town to run properly if we just get rid of all
the unnecessary and wasteful positions.
10:15 pm est 

Re: White Collar vs Blue Collar

One writer states there are too many 'bosses', white collar
vs blue collar.

Another writer states we should do away with all the assistant positions.

Do away with assistant positions is exactly how you get an excess of
management positions.
10:10 pm est 

Re: Chief Jarran

A round of applause for Chief Jarran for recognizing we
don't need to spend $23,000 on 22 security cameras on the pier. His
budget will not accomodate the Pier Corp's ill thought out capital
expenditure! Thanks Chief!
6:37 pm est 

Re: Len

If town hall had a $1.00 for everytime Len mentioned the
blog during his 33 minute meeting, phase 1 would have been paid for
today! Really, Len, going after DPW? I care about our town employees,
deeply. Could you please start enforcing the lease between the town
and the pier corp? So, our wonderful town employees can stay whole?

Walk away from the back room....now!
6:35 pm est 

To: Len

The spotlight will continue to shine brightly on your
incompetence and arrogance with your smirking boyfriend egging you
on.  Really 33 minutes today.

Could you spare it?
6:29 pm est 

What Any Good Business Person Knows

And town officials shold also know: when reductions need to be made,
they are made on everyone. When bonueses are given--yes, in the old,
old days when businesses were doing ok--everyone gets bonueses. You
do notg pick and choose. You do not ask those who are making less and
doing blue collar work to take pay cuts and not ask those who sit on
their tulips peeking at keys to not take pay cuts as well. And if you
are the key official, then you set the example and take your own pay
cut. You don't hoard your money for your own rainy day.

Wake up please. The heads of department are not more important then
those they rule over. And all town employess should be seen as being
in the same boat. Perhaps the Titanic but this doesn't mean you throw
the old overboard and leave the princesses and princes to take the
lifeboats.

Again, this only reflects a dire lack of leadership and utter insensitivity.
6:27 pm est 

To: Well Folks, It's Official and No Surprise

Perhaps you should get your facts straight and check into who was
asked to give things up before you BLAB !
5:45 pm est 

Why Not 10% Cuts Across the Board

Each department should be asked to cut 10% of their budgets. And then
from there start to cut other aspects. And surely, each and every
administrative position should be frozen--and no so-called
adjustments or rate increases which they automatically take each
year. Stop increases wherever they are and that should include
Sharon's salary. And cut those assistants in each and every
department. Assistants are too often doing the work that the head of
the department should be doing. So, start working, if you're at the
top of any department.Really working, not imitating Bush who sat
dressed in a suit with perfectly creased pants and demanded the same
of those who walked into his office. No, real work. Efficiency in
times of economic crisis makes sense.
5:42 pm est 

About Provincetown:

As I watch the Selectmen's meetings I just can't believe what I hear
coming out of their mouths!  All I hear is "what I want" instead of
"what WE need:.  As I watched the last one, I could not believe what
they wanted from our Fire Chief.  Shame on them and this town for not
providing our Fire Chief with Health Insurance.  This town will not
be satisfied until it has to pay for a full fire department.  This
town needs to save money in ways other than attacking the Fire
Department and School System.

For one thing we do not need a Tourism Director.  That's what the
Chamber of Commerce is for - information about our town!!

We also don't need an assistant to the Town Manager.  There are too
many secretaries for the secretaries.  That is another one of the
problems.  If they can't do the job, then hire someone who can.

Now, let's get down about the school.  If everyone will just look at
the real picture they would see that getting rid of the schools will
not save any money.  Aside from the move to close the schools, what
really needs to happen is to get rid of personnel who makes
everyone's life miserable.  The Superintendent's office has personnel
that puts down everyone, even the bosses.  Yeah, that's right, all of
the bosses.  This person cuts down staff, School Committee, and
Superintendent - acting like he/she is the only 'boss' in the school
system.  As long as this attitude continues, no one will be happy in
the school.  And, of course, this person will deny everything.  This
person will find people who will feel for him/her, but the people
know the truth, too.

Now that I am done saying what should have been said a long time ago,
I will say no more - except - PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP!
5:39 pm est 

To: Candace -

You continue to pound on the Pier Corporation
claiming that they are corrupt. Yet, as I recall, the FinCom found no
such thing. In fact, I believe it was you (and Mr. Steele) who were
admonished by the FinCom for "wasting their valuable time". Move on
Candace, there are much bigger fish to fry in Provincetown. While I
admire your tenacity, I grow weary of hearing the same rhetoric from
you. It's time for something new. The pier isn't going to solve the
town's financial woes; not even close. If you really care about the
taxpayers and want to make a dent in the deficit, start looking at
the DPW. There's gold in them thar hills!

Yours in better government!
5:35 pm est 

To: Michael-

Just remember there is a reason why you were born with TWO ears and
ONLY one mouth.  So please listen twice as often as you post.  We'll
all be better for it.
5:33 pm est 

Hi There Pebble in Your Shoe

How about you come over and i show you an email last year from the
harbormaster's office recommending I get a bass fishing license when
I don't even own a fishing pole?

Gotta go, the attorney general is on the line....

pebble in your side!
5:30 pm est 

Well Folks, It's Official and No Surprise!

Yet again, Sharon has asked all unions to take 3wk unpaid and
cut raises. Of cause, Police and Teachers are exempt because
they are"essential" service.

That leaves "The UNION" as we are called.
31-YES, 31 people...are the ONLY employee's being asked to give
up anything!!!!These 31 individuals, are the people who empty
your trash, etc...LABOR

Not counting the School and Cops, the town now has 98 people on the
payroll...

If you subtract 31 (LABOR) from the total 98, the answer is67.....Thats
right 67 MANAGEMENT. Once again Sharon is trying to balance the budget
on the backs of labor while the 67 MANAGEMENT employees are safe from
cuts.  What a way to take care of your friends.

Ask yourself why the town needs 67 people to manage only 31 labor.
Oh yea, the union is planning to vote a loud NO to her request. And
where does that leave the taxpayer?
This is really a CLASS Issue ...better known as
"BLUE collar vs White Collar"

The FAT lies in the MIDDLE...we need to balance not only the budget,
but the ratio of Labor vs Management.
Get rid of all those MID MANAGMENT recent hires.
..the "ASSISTANTS" and even that "DEPUTY"
The town will still run well and you won't be faced with overrides.

That said, I remain,

The ONLY Pebble on the Beach

PS...please remember, 31 labor vs 67 management is obscene.
1:18 pm est 

Diva Alert!

Michael Rogovsky's pic is printed right over the word "manipulative" 
in Webster's. You could look up!

All right, Michael: as you insist on returning, I suggest that you
back up your views with facts - and the more extreme the view, the
more facts.  This will lead me and other posters to think twice
before beating you up on this blog. Guaranteed!

-Laughing Last
12:44 pm est 

Dear Mike R.

I was sorry to see you leave; now I'm sorrier
that you have come back! Get your own website, then you can rant to
your heart's content! In fact, take Candace Nagel with you. The two
of you make a nice pair (of ??)

Pebble in your shoe
12:42 pm est 

That's It........

......... Rogovsky is back so I am out'ta here !!!
Just can't take the blathering.

Your right it is a new era, so I am going to join a Town Board.  At
least it will serve the good of the Town, unlike the rants of M. R.
12:09 pm est 

Spending Thousands for A Unified Look

You have to be kidding. Wanting Provincetown's police cars to "match"
Truro's when the police have to go there on business? Please. That is
the most ridiculous excuse for some police to want to jazz up their
cars. It was a bit of jealousy and the sense that Truro would not
outdo Provincetown. Little boys playing competitive games in the
playground. But this time playing with our money.

It was unnecessary and should not have been ok'd by either the BOS,
Sharon, or FinCom. An atittude of "let them have their toys"
encourages the motorcycle toy and even more toys they'll want to buy.
Where's community policing by the way? Does that stop when it gets
cold? Basic policing would be good. Forget the toys, boys.
12:07 pm est 

I Knew That Mikey Would be Back...

Please learn a lesson, Mikey, and sort your views out BEFORE you
post... one day back and already there is a double posting from
you... if you must come back, please try to think things through and
understand that many of us find your views simplistic and repulsive.
No one needs to be heard as much as you think you need to be heard.
In terms of ego, you really are a tool; thinking Obama was talking
directly to you!!

yuck
12:06 pm est 

Thanks Pebble!

Stop Wasting Our Money!

MacMillan Pier has become cheap storage for several condemned boats
who have failed coast guard tests and arent able to go to sea.

MacMillan Pier shouldnt be used as dead storage for out -of- towners
who own vessels and most likely are not welcomed at their home ports,
let alone having Provincetown taxpayers subsidize its slips.  Most
ports require vessels to have insurance. Not ours. The Pier Corp. is
very lax about insurance as evident by ignoring their obligation to
take out insurance for the pier.  Provincetown taxpayers always take
a hit when they sink and sink they do on MacMillan Pier! I dont think
the state paid for the entire cost of raising the Chico Jess. I will
follow up.

One old girl that has seen far better days:
Amanda Girl:

-- Hailing port is Portsmouth NH and owner lives in Middleton NH
(Google vessel documentation query and enter Amanda Girl)

The Pier Corp has violated section 3a of its lease that only allows
discounted slips to local fishermen. Stunningly, pier management
stated in writing to FinCom that its tenants were all local. However,
I have uncovered three tenants who are not and whose vessels and home
addresses are out of state. Thats about $18,000 per year of lost
income. We have a lot of unnecessary risk exposure on the pier. But
the Pier Corp. is unwilling or incapable of  addressing it.

I have asked the Selectmen for a full and impartial review of the
tenancy on the floating docks and fixed finger piers.


Pebble: Sign off with a name not your own (and doesn't belong to anyone else
in town).

Uhm, lets see. How about:
Pebble on the pier..?
10:09 am est 

Freedom of Expression is Our Best Defense

There are many reasons not to sign your name here.
There are many reasons why at town meeting bills are passed and then
in the privacy of the balloting they are denied.
There is a reason a few  people hate this anonymous blog.
There is a reason why the majority of the people n this town read
this blog, and post here.

In this town if someone publicly speaks out on an issue that goes
against someone else's financial interests they are attacked in many
ways.

This is why the freedom of speech is so important on this blog.

It is a shame that we cannot be free to express ourselves, and sign
our name without fear of reprisals.

I do not agree with many of the views that I have read here, But I
respect the opinions of others.

If you are so narrow minded that you cannot stand the fact that
someone has an opposing idea, and has expressed that idea, maybe you
should move to North Korea, where everyone 'publicly" says the same
thing. Or maybe you aspire to be like Hitler, or Stalin, and
eliminate democracy and personal freedom, and rights.

Some of the posters here are upset at things which are being done by
the town, and this is a great venue to speak out on whatever comes to
mind.

The viciousness by which Michael has been personally attacked is
unconscionable. It is perfectly ok to disagree with someone, but why
attack the person.

It is exactly this ugly side to this town which is the main blemish
on Provincetown. The problem is a handful of would be dictators.
We the people will not be dictated to.

We are about to enter what is expected to be the worst financial year
since the great depression. We had better all work together through
the hard times, and by the way, the depression lasted for over 20
years. I don't think what we are facing will be quite so bad, but the
"experts" I am listening to are talking about a minimum of 2 to 3
years before thins start to get better, with the worst coming in the
next year or two.

So let us wish that our new leader can help our nation.

All the best to President Barack Obama
10:05 am est 

Re: Police Car Makeovers

I have been informed that this was done so that an out of town police
car is not easily recognizable as such.

This was done for 2 reasons
  1)occasionally aid is requested by neighboring towns, and it
unifies the look of the cars.
  2) In cases of a police officer outside of his jurisdiction is sued
for "whatever" it makes it difficult for witnesses to know what town
the car, and officer is from.

The first reason is the official reason, but that doesn't make sense,
in an emergency help is help.

The second reason makes more sense. It makes wonder who is being
protected and served?

I actually thought it was nice that each town had its own distinctive mark.

Regarding the armored SUV that was partially paid for with federal
anti-terrorism money.
10:02 am est 

Painted Police Patrol Cars

I much prefer the all white cop cars. And apparently at
some point in time so did the rest of the Town, that's how they came
to be all white with the wave logo.But apparently Tobias had some
resentment against this and when he found a few thousand dollars left
over at the end of the fiscal year he spent it to have two old cars
painted black and white and then ordered two new cars black and
white. HE ALONE made the decision to change to black and white, and I
think it was a bad decision. I think the BOS needs to tell Jaren to
go back to all white and keep it that way! Because that's what the
people want.

And I also think it would be good if we changed the co;or of the cops
shirts to white. I'v seen many other communities where this is the
uniform and I think it makes these men look much more professional
and approachable. And would that not be much cooler for all those
teenage summer cops standing around on Commercial street talking to
girls all summer long?

A Rat In The Basement

P.S. Whats a top floor condo?
10:00 am est 

State's Group Insurance Commission:

If all cities and towns got health insurance through the commission,
the savings could reach $2.5 billions over ten years. Problem: Local
unions, which effectively have a veto, are often resistant. Because not
enough communities have enrolled with the GIC, House Speak Sal
DiMasi supports giving local elected leaders sole authority over the
decision. Boston Globe editorial Jan.22. (NOTE: One is not supposed
to start a sentence with "Because".)

Michael Rogovsky
9:57 am est 

Hello, I'm Back!

With our new President and his call for civic involvement
in this new era of Government; we must all do our part--even it if it
is just blogging here.

Due to your constructive criticism and request for fewer postings per
day--how could I possibly disappoint "Last Pebble on the Beach" and
hide my light under a bushel basket?

With the good work of Astrid and Candace; with the Board of Selectmen
expanding the categories for residents for affordable housing; and
with the School committee's admonishment by the steering committee to
examine its own house; and with the Powers that Be in town government
dedicated to reducing the budget--a great deal has been accomplished.

I will be posting in this venue and I'm going to be taking on a new
cause. So fasten your seat belt--a new era is beginning.

Michael Rogovsky
9:55 am est 

Re: Repainted Squad Cars

Understood. But so far as the current state of things, you might want
to check out Ford Explorers in THIS year's budget. Just sayin.'
9:53 am est 

Time of Obama

A New Beginning. Two million people celebrating throughout Washington
and many more celebrating at home. Yes We Can! We can make a
difference. America can have hope once again. And our institutions
can work better and our leaders can lead--not simply hold positions.
How renewing and how much America needed this change.

Welcome to a new generation. Welcome to vitality. Welcome to more
openness. Welcome to energy and real work. It is fabulous that
democracy may not only survive now but soon thrive.
12:11 am est 

Repainted Squad Cars


In fairness to Police Chief Jaran, the hair-brained scheme(and rational) for the
repainting of the squad cars was that of Warren Tobias, when he was
Acting Police Chief.

Tobias spent the funds rather then reduce his budget, even when
at that time the BOS was looking for ways to reduced departmental
expenses.

Additionally, Tobias had the gall to actually put into his budget a fully equipped
Explorer SUV, with body armor  rigged to support anti-terrorist action.
 
Jeff Jaran was not even in the picture.

 
12:10 am est 

Did Anyone Attend the BOS meeting This Morning?

Does anyone know how much the BOS requested from the CPC? Do we know
if the BOS formulated a proposal and completed it? I do believe
tomorrow, the 22nd, is the deadline for submission to the CPC for
requests for monies.

Any information on the request for town hall renovations would be appreciated.
11:55 pm est 

Day One

And there is no Bush in the White House. I feel such relief. It is as
if spring arrived and a new season is here.
It's as if a weight has been lifted and I can breath in deeply and
fully. Eight long, long years. But with time, patience, guts and
grit, we have overcome!
11:54 pm est 

Just a Few Thoughts This Fine Evening

On the subject of people signing posts. Many people just can't for a
large number of reasons. myself included.
I know Candace annoys certain people because she is so focused on the
Pier, but damn she's good, just look at the Dog park. Astrid also,
because of what she accomplished so far with CPC funds.

He, who will remain nameless, accomplished nothing but making a fool
of himself. I doubt this is the last we will hear from him. I predict
Daffy Duck or Minnie Mouse will start posting 5 or 6 times a day with
surprise! A very familia style.

Personally I love trying to figure out who just might be who. Could Slippery
Fish be the guy in the coffee shop? Or, does the Rat in the Basement really
live in a top floor condo with a great view? I urge all posters to be creative,
Sign off with a name not your own (and doesn't belong to anyone else
in town).

I can't sign off without mentioning yesterday. Never thought it would
happen in my lifetime,,,didn't you feel the world shift?

With that, I remain,

The Only Pebble on the Beach
11:53 pm est 

Re: Squad Cars

"Black and White squad cars were implemented as a way of unification
throughout the Outer Cape."

*******************************************************

Each police department has its own jurisdiction and authority. By
that logic, shouldn't the Provincetown Police continue to sport
different livery?

Like the Harley-Davidson: one more egocentric, mow-'em-down Jaran
extravagance, supposedly in the interest of bringing our police up to
par - or whatever his performance review says nowadays.

I agree with an earlier poster: "One-Adam-Twelve..!"

-Laughing Last
11:49 pm est 

Re: Provincetown Patrol Cars

Provincetown Police Didn't Want to Have Cars with Less
Pizzazz Than Truro

And so they spent thousands of dollars to jazzy up the police cars.
Not unification of police cars but more like kids seeking the coolest
toys. Not what police cars whould be about but...
11:20 pm est 

Provincetown Patrol Cars

Black and White Cop Cars Make a NEGATIVE statement

Ghestapo
11:15 pm est 

Re: Re: Squad Cars

Wake up. Truro still has ALL black cruisers and still have the
blacked out windows in the rear. Unification of the outer cape? Where
do you get this stuff?
11:13 pm est 

"Goodbye, Cruel World!"

Re: Lesson Learned to Those Who Sign Their Names


This board will go on attack mode until they get rid of you if they
don't agree with you.

Sad commentary.

9:05 pm est

Uh-huh! We twisted Michael Rogovsky's arm so hard that he made a
point of saying "Goodbye, cruel world!"

Shame!

-Laughing Last
11:12 pm est 

Wednesday, January 21, 2009

Puhleeeze

There are a number of constant posters here.  Only difference was
Michael R had the cahoonas to sign his name.
9:06 pm est 

Lesson Learned to Those Who Sign Their Names

This board will go on attack mode until they get rid of you if
they don't agree with you.

Sad commentary.
9:05 pm est 

Yep. Gotta Love it.

Honor must be earned. Sharon Lynn has, in my book. On the other hand...
9:03 pm est 

A Very Good Day!

W, Cheney and Michael all gone on the same day...it's a wonderful
breath of fresh air...finally.
6:27 pm est 

Yep. Gotta Love it

You drive a guy off your poster board
for defending the honor of Town Manager Sharon Lynn and Chief of
Police Jeff Jaran! How does this make you look?

Now we will be back to all of your gripes about the summer officers
chatting with citizens and what not.
6:26 pm est 

You Have to Wonder

The guy left the blog and he is still being attacked; what
does that say about some people on the blog? Just don't sign your
name--and no one will ever know.
6:25 pm est 

No Mikey, Please do Not Come Back..........

......at least for a few weeks to let this board recover from the
last YEAR of your constant posting...
1:26 pm est 

Is Michael Rogovsky Really Gone?

Boy it's a tough day when you get booted off a blog (or shamed into
withdrawing)!
The problem was, all Michael, all the time. I am sure you would be
welcomed back if you reined it in.
Remember, you don't have to respond to EVERY post, like this one!
Be well...

E. Michael Richards
1:24 pm est 

Re: Squad Cars

Black and White squad cars were implemented as a way of unification
throughout the Outer Cape.  Truro, Wellfleet Eastham and Provicetown
now all have black/white cars.  This was not done under any other
guise.
1:22 pm est 

Beware Of The Blogger Who Exits...

..and quietly says farewell !!!  This is what he wishes, everyone
takes comment to his departure, thus feeding the Ego.  I for one will
not miss the blathering of said blogger.  Now, back to business.

It is truly a wonderful day to wake up and realize that W. has left
Washington !  I know it will take time for this administration to
reverse what detrimental harm Cheney has caused this great land of
ours, however it is still a great day to be an American.  Hope is
here, and maybe there is hope for our Town Government to CHANGE as
well.
1:21 pm est 

Defensive Tackle


Remember what so many had to say about this matter? On this blog?
Just a few weeks ago?


"P'town firefighter faces criminal charges

By Mary Ann Bragg
STAFF WRITER
January 20, 2009
ORLEANS - A 21-year-old Provincetown firefighter will face a criminal
charge of driving under the influence of alcohol stemming from a fire
truck wreck on Nov. 9 in Provincetown, based on a clerk magistrates
hearing today.

Orleans District Court clerk magistrate Stephen Ross decided this
afternoon he will issue criminal complaints against Elias Martinez.
There is no opportunity for Martinez to appeal the decision, Ross
said after the hearing."

*****************************************************

Let this be a reminder to knee-jerk defenders of this town's
authorities. Don't believe the hype!

- Laughing Last
1:19 pm est 

Could it be?

Could Michael really become silent?

Something tells me that we couldn't get that lucky.

No more rhetoric Michael, please. Lets use this blog for real issues,
educated topics with factual information and lets not beat any DJ,
horse or point to death.
3:09 am est 

The Barry Scott Beating is Not Costing Us Business

Nor is the cover up. The point is the cops are generally nasty.
Tobias painted the squad cars to black and white, ala, 1 Adam 12.
Hello? Do you remember when the nice wave logo the Ewa Nogic designed
was displayed on the end of the white vehicles? Words matter, symbols
too. I haven't seen any of our officers out of the car and on the
street, have you?

One reporter's opinion
3:07 am est 

Hey Clarence-

 "Barak"  is actually spelled BARACK.

Happy Inauguration Day to everyone!
3:04 am est 

Obama!

YES WE CAN!    YES WE DID!     YES WE WILL!    YES WE MUST!
3:02 am est 

Hey Michael Rogovsky

PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE.  There are TONS
of us that like what you have to say.  MOST of the negative responses
are from A VERY FEW.  You only hear the negatives all the time, AND
NO POSITIVE THINGS.  BUT you have brought insight into issues.  Keep
up the work you have started.
3:01 am est 

Sorry to See You go Michael

You should post like the rest
of us, completely anonymous where there are no repercussions for your
statements or mis-representations.
2:59 am est 

To: Michael

You have heard the expression less is more? Well
how about nothing is LESS.
Please dont leave, just come around less. I need you to continue
doing what you have been doing.

A Rat In The Basement

P.S. is it just me or does anyone else fell different, like something
has changed?
2:57 am est 

Thank You Webmaster.....

......for finally letting Rogovsky know that
his constant postings (sometimes five or six times; all stating the
same thing again and again) is tantamount to hijacking this forum and
diminishing it.
I am tired tired tired of his anti-intellectual postings; his over
simplication of EVERYTHING; and most of all his calls to make PTown a
police state where the police are above the rest of us here; beyond
investigation or reprouch.
2:54 am est 

Tired of This Michael R . Webpage...

Would much rather celebrate the enormous significance of today...
2:52 am est 

Re: Police Chief Jarran

And Jarran doesn't see how he can enforce
decriminalization of small amounts of weed?
In the interest of brevity,

Color me terse!
2:50 am est 

Re: New News Please!

Yeah, well maybe Barry (Obama) spoiled it a little, with Rick Warren.

I'm still glad I voted for Obama (not just in November, but the Mass.
primary as well). I wish our new President the best, and don't we
ever need it.

But excuse me for not riding a lollipop into the grandstand on
Pennsylvania Avenue tomorrow. A homophobic yokel will bles him into
office despite loud protests from the LGBT community, and I don't
like it one bit.

-Laughing Last
2:44 am est 

Tuesday, January 20, 2009

Goodbye and Good Luck

I'm leaving quietly.

Michael Rogovsky
2:49 pm est 

Monday, January 19, 2009

New News Please!

Silence would be relief in the B.Scott case. And Michael, you are
sweet, but please limit your posting and go back to painting more.

Yes, let's focus on the national event: Barack Obama is to be
inaugurated tomorrow. And Geroge Bush and his eight years wherein
this nation feel from grace and lost its economic bearings, leaves
for Dallas. Let the Texans take care of this Texan.

I'm thrilled that a new President is forthcoming and that is Barack
Obama. He is unusual, exceptional and extremely talented. He
understands the needs of this nation and he is poised to addressed
the dire mess Bush has left us with. Whether you are Republic or
Democrat, you must see that America is facing difficult economic
times brought on by Bush. HIs policies were disastrous and his
de-regulate anything caused pain and suffering for those who now look
at their 401's, retirement funds, stock analysis.

Enough with poor thinking, ineffective leadership and pure
ineptitude. Anything would be better. But this one, is much much
better and he has the savvy to right the ship of state.

Happy Inauguration Day! May we all be better for the choice made on
NOvember 2nd.
7:53 pm est 

Re: Let' Stop Concentrating on the B.S Story

I agree...I have replied to the blogs because I know the truth and
it's not what they are saying...But from now on if I got anything to
say to, or about him or his supporters I will put it on toilet paper.
Hopefully anyone that reads your blog will also agree, just ignore
him and his supporters...Mr.Scott and his supporters are nothing but
trouble makers...
6:39 pm est 

Stand Up For Justice!

Don't forget, a few of our lovely residents changed their
stories about the Barry Scott incident...including one under oath
saying he made no statements to the press although he had made many
contradicting statements. Quite a few have said because this is a
small town, they didn't want the police mad at them. That's not
decent and honorable people. More of us should stand up to injustice.
6:38 pm est 

Re: Pier Corporation Lease Payment Obligation

Lease between the Town of Provincetown as Landlord and the
Provincetown Public Pier Corporation as Tenant March 2005:

Section 4 Property Insurance

A Commercial Property policy covering MacMillan Pier, the buildings
and improvements thereon, in an amount equal to at least one hundred
percent (100%) of the replacement cost of such property shall be
obtained and maintained by Tenant, as its own expense unless
otherwise approved by the Landlord in writing.

Shockingly, the Pier Corp. never bothered to take out Commercial
Property Insurance. Only recently, uncovered by FinCom because they
refused to release their books for years.


Now we have to pay to replace the floating docks? And there are only
nine Provincetown tenants? Some of whom dont qualify for a boat
excise tax exemption? Back room deals for the slips? Bass Fishing
licenses qualify!
Who is going to take responsibility for this costly mess?


Never Caught A Fish, Never Sold  A Fish
6:36 pm est 

Veni, Vidi, Vici?

"I mean alot
of us are sick of it already and we hope the Police REMAIN
victorious..."

5:15 pm est


This mindset has yellow-flagged P'town for too many tourists. Winning
matters, not justice.

As to why no one showed up at the police station with torches and
pitchforks: I recall considerable grumbling that summer. But the
authorities defused it with an information blackout.

They're good at this, as shown by the recent fire truck fiasco. It
puts the onus on opponents to shut up while the toadies in town shout
"Yay, Team!"

The press that followed Barry's beating, throughout Boston and in the
LGBT media nationally, demonstrates the limitations of this strategy.
And it's why tourism may continue to suffer until this case is
resolved, satisfactorily and in the opinion of far more people than
yourself.

-Laughing Last
6:32 pm est 

Lets Stop Concentrating on the B.S. Story

He will continue to broadcast that this is a town of hate and that
the  police and town manager are corrupt and his friends will continue
to believe him--just don't attend the fund raisers that they will be
throwing for him.
6:30 pm est 

Re: Gun Shots

The gun shots you thought you heard were actually fire
crackers.  I have no idea what someone was celebrating, but saw them
go up in the air.
6:28 pm est 

Can Spring be Far Behind

And winter's night stays a bit longer at bay as the axis of
the day tilts gently towards lingering sunlight.
6:27 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott

Talk about a spoiled child: Enough about Mr. B.S.--his
initials say it all--Let him broadcast his story of hate in
Provincetown to his heart's content since he loves being a victim as
he believes his fairy tale.

The judge with all of the evidence PROVED him wrong. Talk about an
ineffectual advocate on his own behalf. As the Bard said,"The Lady
doest protest too much."
6:25 pm est 

If You Don't Like My Postings--Don't Read Them

I had a painting of a male nude removed from a store window by the police
once and, unbeknown to me, I later found out that a group of artist
went to the police station the next day to protest this action.

How many of Barry Smith's party goers went to the police station the
next day to protest his arrest?

Michael Rogovsky

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into an issue. To do otherwise would permit the hijacking of the Blog and its stated
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The writer is therefore cautioned accordingly.


6:22 pm est 

Apoplexy!

Michael, your sputtering is doing no good except to draw more
comments from those of us who smell a rat in the Barry Scott beating.

Only the truth will have the last say in this matter. Not you. Not me.

-Laughing Last
5:57 pm est 

No One is Making Anyone Read My Posts

If anyone believes that it is in their best interest to resist arrest
if they should ever be arrested--you are kidding yourself.

It is interesting that Barry Scott can go to court, lose his case,
and then state that there is corruption and lies from the town
manager to the police department and folks out there rally around him.

Why didn't he go to every official in town and demand satisfaction?

Michael Rogovsky
5:56 pm est 

A Bit of Spring Is in the Air

The weather is a little warmer. The ice melts. The robins warm
themselves around the bird bath. The black-cap chicadees skitter and
scout. The titmice dip and fling themselves in the air. And the
bluejays throw their little heads back and sing into the air. They
ring out their call with vigor. And the cardinals flutter among the
bushes casting flahses of red lipstick among the evergreens. and far
away, the six black-feathered crows caw through the pine-top breezes.

Snow remains in spots and along hill and dune edges but the light
also lingers and the day extends into the night. Spring has a way to
edge its presence in our January days, even when we are looking
elsewhere.

Here's to these moments of renewal that punctuate our Provincetown days.
5:53 pm est 

Inauguration Day is Almost Here!

Can we move away from B. Scott. It's an old issue. It may have merit,
but it's yesterday's news.

Today is Martin Luther King, Jr. Day. Here's to his dream which is a
dream for all of us.

And here's to tomorrow. An new era and a new it's-about-time
President. We couldn't take even more day with what's his name. Just
leave, quietly.

To all, a great day. To the nation, a blessing upon us all.
5:49 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott

This  is from Mr. Barry Scott's Provincetown hate:
                                                                   
                                                                   
                                                                   
                                                                   
                                                                   
 
Barry Scott--Mr. B.S.--What a Man!


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5:47 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott

If I was minding my own business and a policeman came and
bashed me in the face, I'd have photos of my face taken, rush right
down to the police station to lodge a formal complaint, then go and
to the town manager, board of slectmen, call our representative Sarah
Peak as well as Tom Delahunt and demand satisfaction.

I wouldn't broadcast the lies about the police department and the
town manager. I'd act.

Michael Rogovsky
5:42 pm est 

A Provincetown Restaurant

                

In looking for a place to have lunch with a fairly large group of
people I called                to see if they had a web site or a menu
on-line and the response was, "We are the only game in town for three
meals a day seven days a week.  We have enough to do, we don't have
time for that."

Although, "No, we don't," would have sufficed - the attitude wasn't
necessary.  I guess               is doing a great business and they
don't need have any type of friendly customer service over the phone.
  We decided to go to Chach instead.
5:41 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott

I do not care what he said while he closed down the party, he did not
deserve to be beaten.

Most of the Police in this town do a very good job.

If a violent crime was committed against a citizen by the police,
that citizen has every right to due process.

If the police officer lies under oath he (they) should be terminated.

I do not think that Barry, who loves this town, would be so upset if
his rights had not been violated, and if he had not been beaten.

There were a lot of people at that DRY party, and they all witnessed
what happened, and they have all told their friends, and this has
gone national.

Hopefully in the future, violence will be a last resort.

A concerned citizen
5:33 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

I love the  equating of Rogovsky to a three year old asking
"but why?" again and again! LOL!

His persistence and immobility to see the other side also remind me of Bush.
Frankly, I have had enough of both of them.
5:30 pm est 

Short on Leadership.....

.....and I think short on knowledge of the seas and of marine operations.
We need someone who knows how to lead the Pier Corp and not just
someone who can play politics and flutter his eyelashes at Sharon Lynn.
5:27 pm est 

Glad to See the BOS Will Meet To Confront Seasonal and Year-Round LIcenses

Maybe the Victor issue and the Victor's questionable actions has
finally led to some town action. Let's clear up the real differences
between seasonal and year-round licenses, the dates to open and close
if seasonal, and the penalties owners will face if they break the
rules. Enforcement must be linked to clarifying the rules.

Then we will see fewer Victor's-like games being played in town.
Great to have a restaurant like Victor's but not if it is only a
front for developers to do what they want to do and break town rules.
5:26 pm est 

God Bless America!

Tomorrow we will celebrate history! The first African
American President. Let's celebrate the new arrival of a president
who has hope for our nation. God Bless America.

Page O'Reilly
5:24 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott

Why didn't everyone who witnessed the Barry Scott episode
descend on the police station the next; jam the selectmen's meeting
and detail everything on TV during public statements and alert
everyone to what happened?

Instead, this went to court and all of the facts were presented and
the judge did not rule in B.S.'s favor.

Now, slurs are hurled about stating that the town manager and the
police dept. are full of corruption and lies--and all of the B.S.
supporters believe this lie. Great.
5:23 pm est 

Health and Building Insurance Increased $500,000 in One Year?

According to the banner, Town manager Sharon Lynn put
pressure on all municipal departments to rein in costs.

There was a $500,000 increase in costs from insurance for employees
health and town buildings, retirement benefits and unemployment
insurance.

These costs increased $500,000 in one year? They will have to deal
with this in this budget and be cognizant of this increase for next
year.

I pay my own benefits. My health insurance premium went up and my
home insurance went up--but not to this degree. Zero in on changing
the health insurance plan.
5:22 pm est 

Public Pier Corporation Mismanagement

The pier manager does have a place on the pier: as an
events co ordinator. But not someone who is overseeing the safety and
maintenance of our harbor and pier let alone deciding who gets
discounted slips as has come up.

If you aren't eligible for a waiver on the boat excise tax, then you
have no right to get a taxpayer's subsidized slip.
We are about to be hit up with a million dollar request to replace
the floating docks  without any regard to the reason they are
destroyed: no wave barrier. This will be the third set of floating
docks in five years.

A barge was bought but never used. A dead on arrival  program
to replacie 40 worm infested and dangerous piles per year.
They are now 120 piles behind. On his watch we have seen five
boats sink including the harbormaster's boat. Letting boats keep
their megawatt lights on during the day at our expense is bad
management..

Taking the accounting away from him and making accountible monies
spent with frequent meetings with FInCom is a small but significant
step. Much more restructuring on MacMillan Pier needs to be done.

You can't keep  looking the other way either so that you will be
popular and get support when your management of the pier is being
challenged. That is hardly good management. Your quest to be popular
with certain tenants on the pier has done a great disservice to
taxpayers footing the bill.
5:19 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott

I believe all your information is incorrect and maybe that's why he
has yet to win his case. Stay with your lies because that's how you
obviously are getting the people in Boston to think "oh my god the
Police did that"...I am not a police officer, I am just a resident, a
citizen who would of never gotten himself into this mess. You and
Mr.Scott think you are above the Law. Enjoy yourself trying to
convince everyone about your story because alot of us and I mean alot
of us are sick of it already and we hope the Police REMAIN
victorious...
5:15 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott

This is what was posted by a Barry Scott supporter:
                                                                       
                                                                       
                                                                       
                                                                       

---------------------------------------------------------------

I'm defending the police and town manager because this is a lie.

Michael Rogovsky

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5:13 pm est 

Gun Shots?

This evening, Sunday 1.18 roughly between 7PM and 8PM I
heard what appeared to be four gun shots in the middle of town.
Commercial Street @ Johnson.  Any idea what that was?
5:06 pm est 

The Essence of Our Democracy


Doesn't matter how loud the music may or may not have been.....
Doesn't matter how many noise complaints the police may or may not
have received or by how many people.....

Nothing that I have read or heard about that incident warrants the
BEATING that Barry Scott received.
Sure the police had to respond and maybe even shut the party down,
but BEAT the guy? No way!

This is America folks. (And while it's easy to forget that after the
last 8 years). Mr. Scott has a right to defend himself and pursue
what he feels is justice for as long as he wants no matter the cost
or consequences.

If you are worried about public relations and concerned that gay men
won't want to come here-perhaps you should be addressing those concerns
to the new Police Chief or PBG, Chamber of Commerce or VSB instead
of trying to silence someone who feels they were victimized by the very
people who are supposed to protect them.

5:04 pm est 

I Have Something to Tell You

To those of you who see the Police Department as angelic
protectors of our town, I have something to tell you.  Last year
during when the town was traumatized by the arsonist, I had friend
visiting from out of town. One night after dinner we were taking a
ride down Commercial Street.  No one was on the road. Then I came
upon a white SUV going along at 5 miles per hour.  I patiently
followed this vehicle for about 1/2 mile until there was ample space
for this vehicle to pull to the side a let me by.  So I flashed my
lights.  Immediately the SUV stopped and out came one of this towns
"finest" in such a rage, cursing, yelling and threatening, that I
really feared for my safety.  I believe that if it were not for the
fact that there were other people were with me this officer would
have caused me physical harm.  I have not reported this because I
fear what may happen to me.
5:00 pm est 

Enough Already!

The double standard  - trash ted but not
the cops, malign the b of s but listen to the bs about the pier, shut
the school and close your wallet. would that i had the time to
dissect every high school musical ditty about somebody's done
somebody wrong song. i wouldn't know where to begin. but i'll try.

Michael...no offense, but please stop. really michael. stop. paint
something. go to fall river. go to ny. but stop. you risk becoming a
caricature of yourself. and maybe we're just not that into you... or
your ideas.

and i've tried to be open minded. i know pier personnel. but as much
as i try i can't help but find the pier to be a much nicer,
friendlier place. i don't get the torch and pitchfork stuff. with all
due respect and no offense, i find myself wishing someone would take
a long walk...

we need to stop trying to take the town down. for what? dismantle,
shame or otherwise render our leaders - admittedly such as they are -
impotent so a few can wear the smarty pants, told you so, smarter
than a fifth grader (who you'd like to bus somewhere cheap)lapel pin.
man up bloggers. think about making provincetown better. in a nice
way. this slouching towards bay city soap opera schtick isn't doing
anyone any good.
4:54 pm est 

AMEN! Very Well Said

I was trying to think what to write
about this ugly incident that continues to be a black eye on this
town I hear everywhere I travel. That's just it. Nothing justifies
treating a person this way...and I know this guy. He's a sweet, 40
something nice guy. Everyone who knows him knows this is just a lie.
We need to settle this or this town will be known for this and we
will all suffer.



Re: Barry Scott......@8:58 pm

.and nothing that you have written remotely justifies the
Provincetown Police beating Barry Scott black and blue.
4:50 pm est 

Sunday, January 18, 2009

Re: Barry Scott

Oddly enough, while reading this crap about him on the board, I am
listening to his lovely radio show! Weird.
9:48 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott

The homeowner saw the police the first two times, NOT
Barry. He was playing tunes in a backyard. That homeowner (who hired
Mr. Scott) got a ticket and STILL didn't shut his own party! Barry
was polite to the police...did nothing to be beaten. He shut the
party down immediately. Only ONE person complained, repeatedly. Check
the facts...I did. And, it made me sick. Should anyone be injured for
a noise complaint in a backyard at 10pm?

The police also said there was a lot of alcohol there, but it was an
Alcholics Anonymous get together! Do you smell lies? I do. Let's face
it, you don't know the facts. This Saturday party, from 6 to 10 was
never loud. Why are you covering up for the police so much, officer??



> Of course nothing in your blog says that the Police warned Mr.Scott
> on a few occassions to LOWER the music, etc. Nothing in your blog
> shows any SYMPATHY towards the residents who complained. You also
> don't mention anything about Mr.Scott ATTITUDE towards the Police
> each time
they arrived. I wonder why ???
9:47 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott......@8:58 pm

..and nothing that you have written remotely justifies the
Provincetown Police beating Barry Scott black and blue.

This case is a festering wound. Before I began hearing the FBI rumors
(just after Christmastime), I empathized with Scott. But I didn't
really think twice about the economic harm to this town that might
result. Now I just don't know, for the recession is beginning to seem
like it will become something uglier by summer. We can't afford to
give the GLBT community, especially gay men, more reasons to stay
away.

Of course, justice is the most important thing. If after all's said
and done Barry's case is found to be baseless, we'll move on.
Meanwhile, the knee-jerk, "Dragnet"-era support of the police amid
unanswered questions is even more damaging, for it reveals us to be
less interested in fair play than hiding possible police excesses (in a
word: crimes) at the peril of anyone who might pay good money to
vacation here and - dare I say it -throw a party.

-Laughing Last
9:45 pm est 

No Tine For Playing Catch Up

No one who qualified for restricted affordable housing at
age 40 should be managing the finances of McMillan Pier. Much of the
problems on the pier are because we have someone over his head and a
board that is incapable of properly overseeing him. It is shameful
who has been getting subsidized slips on the pier as I learned
watching  monday's meeting today on PTV.

Play catch up in life with someone else's money.  Miss Nagel is right
there should be an investigation
on this corruption with the docks.
9:41 pm est 

Let Barry Scott's Voice be Heard

The Provincetown Police are hardly above reproach, and it is
exceedingly difficult to shout out against them when one lives here.
The police routinely abuse their power and play favorites with their
own little in-crowd.

Chief Jarran wasn't here yet when the Scott beating occurred, in fact
no one was in charge of the department. Tobias was acting chief and I
guess he was proven to be incompetent as he didn't even make the
short list of applicants for the permanent position. Then when he
didn't get it he filed for disability, then withdrew the claim. Wazz
up?

I do not think anybody has had control since Bobby Anthony retired.
So much for Community Policing. There are only two cops in the whole
town who will even wave and say hello in a normal fashion.

And Jarran doesn't see how he can enforce decriminalization of small
amounts of weed?
9:02 pm est 

Re: Re: Barry Scott

To whom it may concern: You state you were at the Party when the
Police alledgelly used police brutality against Mr.Scott ??? Of
course nothing in your blog says that the Police warned Mr.Scott on a
few occassions to LOWER the music, etc. Nothing in your blog shows
any SYMPATHY towards the residents who complained. You also don't
mention anything about Mr.Scott ATTITUDE towards the Police each time
they arrived. I wonder why ??? However, you said alot of people in
Boston support Mr.Scott, that's good. Then why don't you and him take
yourselves to Boston and stay there ??? If I were as disgrunted as
you two are I think I would of moved onto where I'm appreciated. Or
maybe you have realized the number one reason this town has a low
crime rate is because of the Police Dept and that's why you're still
here.
8:58 pm est 

Re: Candace Nagle

Actually, as a holder of a public license of a float on
MacMillan Pier, Miss Nagle should provide a complete accounting to
the state and the town of her financial activities on state property!
8:53 pm est 

Pier Float Owner's Tax

I want to see the property tax bill for all of the float
owners on the wharf!  This is no different than owning a shop on
Commercial St.
8:51 pm est 

Aint't That the Pot Calling the Kettle Black
 
Rogovsky is worried about Barry Scott making a fool of himself!

Michael, every time you open your mouth (type on this blog) you are
making a fool of yourself. Even when I agree with your positions I
shudder at your posts. Your comments about the police are the latest
ridiculous drivel. I was taught to give respect to people when they
earn it, not because they are in uniform. My experience with
authority is to ALWAYS question it. Just look back on history and
you'll see the abuses of regular, law-abiding citizens and even
criminals for that matter by people in positions of authority just
because they can.

While I have never had a problem with the police in this town
(although the chief does sound questionable) I wouldn't automatically
give them my support if their behavior in a situation was reported as
questionable.

Their behavior reported in the Barry Scott case is in the very least
questionable. He has the right to take his case as far as he wants.
To admonish him for sullying Provincetown in his fight is appalling.
8:50 pm est 

Miss Nagle Owes You Nothing

She does not need to inform you what her gain might be from the
causes she promotes. Have you demanded this of Miss Couture and her
insatiable support for affordable housing or Miss Andersen and her
tireless support for affordable housing with the subsides of the CPC?
Miss Nagle is not an elected official and as a taxpayer she owes you
nothing.
7:32 pm est 

Re: Public Pier Applications

I for one want to see the pier applications and who is
getting those slips. Does someone who just has a tuna license and
fishes for sport allowed on the pier at a cheap price? Are we paying
for that kind of fisherman?
7:31 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott

This stuff about our police is ridiculous and I must
finally speak out. I was at that party where the cops rushed behind
the house and pounced on tiny Barry Scott. He did nothing wrong,
didn't stand a chance and came out bloody and bruised. Then, they did
the same to his lover in what I can only describe as an anti-gay
attack: when he asked them what they were doing to his partner.

I was shocked as a resident then and I am still shocked today. The
George Bush era where speaking out against a crime is un-American is
now over. I feel more comfortable speaking out!

The police were wrong that night and they have lied since. I applaud
Mr. Scott for doing what is right at considerable expense and time.
He has nothing to lose. Everyone in Boston supports him and so do I.
7:29 pm est 

Re; Arresting Fact

Take Barry Scott and the person who put in the blog called arresting
fact and you get just what a box of cracker jacks would give you. My
desire is to defend the Chief and his alledged statements. This town
has a reputation it has with nudity and many other issues because the
last three Police Chiefs were controlled by a certain population in
this town. Now comes along a real Police Chief and the public doesn't
like it (that of course does not mean all), and he's being nailed to
the wall.Could that be because you were one of them ?

We are a small community and when you read the blogs here you would
think this was a city. And that is because too many people are
allowed to run their mouths (espicially here) with no repocussions.
Go to a city like Boston and or New York and trust me, you'll
appreciate this town more.
7:27 pm est 


There is an assistant harbormaster on duty who couldn't
hear a drowning person's screams to save his own life.  Not to
mention that he has had sexual complaints from high school aged girls
filed against him.
7:24 pm est 

Re: Candace Nagle

Yes Miss Nagle is on the Animal Welfare Committee, but does
she care for anyone other than her bitches?
7:23 pm est 

To: Mr. Scott

"You have gone out of your way to hurt almost 3500 people who had no
involvement in that night. your campaign should not be to hurt
provincetown which in part has been. It should be to seek the justice
you feel you deserve through the court system without degrading an
entire community..."
****

Bingo, you hit the nail right on the head.  Thank you for stating it.
  Mr. Scott now seems to have a vendetta against all of us in
Provincetown and wonders why we are not cheering him on?
7:21 pm est 

Arresting Fact:

I would never compare anything to the Gestapo, for nothing is
comparable to The Holocaust. Spare me the Nazi talk.

But you must be kidding to suggest that the Provincetown police are
disinclined to harrass people because live-and-let-live is our bread
and butter.

When the police chief makes unilateral pronouncements about laws
against nude sunbathing and marijuana that overstep his authority, I
am not reassured. When news goes black after an incident like Barry
Scott - which it did, until the D.A. got the case - I am not
reassured.

Most recently, I was not reassured by the news blackout following the
fire truck crash, which uncovered wrongdoing despite an environment
on this blog (similar to what is happening now with Barry Scott) in
which skeptics were attacked and accused of maligning the Fire
Department in general, and in particular the family of the volunteer
who was, after all, charged.

I hear an echo and it's ugly. But I cannot say it is anything new. I
dearly love this town, except for one issue - a conservative streak
that belies our freewheeling reputation.

I'm reminded of the quaint New England towns in "Peyton Place," and
especially "Jaws."  Nothing has changed since those books and movies.
Human nature, I guess.

But you know what? In Peyton Place and on Amity Island the truth came
out - and when it did, was far worse for having been covered up.
Let's give ourselves a break.

-Laughing Last
6:11 pm est 

Re: Public Pier Lighting

I asked Rex last year about the lights last year when I met
with him. He told me that homeowners complained about them being too
bright--that is why some of them were turned off.

Michael R.
6:08 pm est 

Re: Ms Candace Nagle

I think, as taxpayers, we need to know what Miss Nagle is
really after.  No one puts this amount of time into anything without
some personal gain, especially a stock trader, as she is so quick to
tell us all that's how she made her fortune!
6:07 pm est 

An Ogunquit, Maine Plot!

Provincetown the town of hate and Gestapo cops. Keep it up
Barry. You have All winter to drive this home to every skittish gay
person in every town and city in America by the time the restaurants
and business open in April. Is the Ogunquit, Maine (the other gay
beach town) Chamber of Commerce funding you to do this?
5:54 pm est 

A Very Bad Hire.....Very Bad

What about those cruise lines that won't come here because
we don't have 100k worth of security cameras?

Notice none of them came back to give us one name!


How's your pile driving with the barge going? what am i thinking,
it's still over there at the highway dept. sure could have used that
money toward our deficit.

You can't go from tendering people to their yachts to managing our
biggest resource! we have paid a very high price for that bad hire.
5:51 pm est 

L.L. You Misunderstood My Requests!

You aren't my opponent. I'm *looking* to you for facts to use as
arguments to lower the budget.

I've been pushing for one cafeteria for the schools and people act as
though I want to put the students on a death march through Siberia
when all I want is for the high school students to use the elementary
school Cafeteria. I didn't realize that I was annoying you.

People have slammed me on here so I know how it feels. They have
posted financial information about my house, called my work
salacious--I wanted to defend the town manager and the police
department.

And now people are posting that folks who are arrested should resist
arrest rather than go quietly with the arresting officer.

It gives one pause.

Michael Rogovsky
5:48 pm est 

There We Go Again: Pier Management Propaganda on the Blog

"The lights on the pier are there for everyone's safety, as
per the town police."
------------------------------------------------------------------

WELL THEN WHY DID GEORGE BYRANT HAVE TO WAIT ALMOST TWO HOURS TO GIVE
A PUBLIC STATEMENT ABOUT LIGHTBULBS NOT BEING CHANGED ON THE PIER FOR
NOT DAYS, WEEKS BUT YEARS AND WHY DID OUR BELOVED SELECTMAN ALMOST
FALL OFF THE PIER?

BECAUSE PIER MANAGEMENT IS SPENDING ALL THEIR evenings IN THE
HARBORMASTER'S BACK ROOM CUTTING SWEET DEALS.

cHING cHING cHING.

The only security camera taxpayers need is on that new cash register
coming your way soon per the finance committee's strong recommendaton!

Give it up!
5:40 pm est 

Arresting Fact::

Giving the police a hard time when you are arrested is called
resisting arrest--so you get that count against you too. When
arrested just go quietly with the police.

In this town with Bear Week, Fantasia Fair, skimpy Carnival costumes;
a town with dozens of gay bars-- you equate the police here with Nazi
Gestapo?
5:34 pm est 

Re: "The High School Students Read This Blog"

I hope so, Michael. It's vital that students learn the tenets of
democracy - "to the end it may be a government of laws and not of
men," as John Adams wrote in the Massachusetts Constitution.

This implies skepticism of those who make and enforce laws, including
our police. The estimation of the friends and family of Provincetown
police by no means eclipses this duty.

Michael, if you really want to start wearing a regulation-blue
sweater I'll knit you one. But don't make a bigger fool of yourself
with such a pathetic argument.

On second thought...go ahead. Your mindset subtly reinforces the idea
that Barry Scott may have been railroaded.

And as you say, students read this blog. You are not only a lesson in
democracy, but biology: the definition of an invertebrate.

-Laughing Last
5:32 pm est 

Barry!

Some of us are your friends but we are trying to make a living here
and you are becoming counter-productive to the effort. Please shut
the $%&# up.
5:30 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott

Mr. Scot,

Did you ever think for a moment that most of us here in provincetown
are private citizens? you have gone out of your way to hurt almost
3500 people who had no involvement in that night. your campaign
should not be to hurt provincetown which in part has been. It should
be to seek the justice you feel you deserve through the court system
without degrading an entire community.

Please stop hurting the innocent people here who are just going about
their lives.

At the end of your journey, i do hope justice will prevail whatever it is.
5:29 pm est 

Re: Dog Park

I understand that the dog owners in town are happy with the
dog park.  Personally it looks like a big litter box on public land!
5:25 pm est 

Re: Public Pier Corporation

I have a question,

Are the private floats on the pier considered real property and if so
are they taxed accordingly?
5:24 pm est 

Here's to: Keep In Mind

If you believe everything you read on this blog, as PT Barnum would
say, there's a sucker born every minute!
5:21 pm est 

Re: Pubilic Pier Lighting

The lights on the pier are there for everyone's safety, as
per the town police.  Do you want to be responsible for someone being
raped in the dark or falling off the pier?  If you don't want the
pier lighted at night then it should have a gate set up to prevent
anyone not associated with the pier from going down to the pier and
hiring a gate guard (24 hours a day) to prevent this from happening. 
After all we, live in a society where law suits are the norm.
5:20 pm est 

It's About English!

Who called who, the FBI, the cops, Rogo, Barry Scott, Ptown
being slandered all over the web, angry citizens, bla bla bla. 
Listen, knock it off and get on point.  And the webhead who runs this
is right: don't copy and paste someone else's bad blather to your bad
blather.

Maybe we should indeed keep the school open so some of the posters
here can enroll and learn how to write a decent declarative sentence.
5:17 pm est 

Re: @8:49

I've said nothing against the library. It's the best bargain
in town, especially now; and is better run than any other department,
notwithstanding its unique fundraising capacity.

The Library also has the ONLY public bathroom in the entire town this
winter now that town hall is closed...
and it's open every day. I would hate to see the hours shortened,
that place is a treasure. I agree it's the best run department, with
the nicest staff in town ...let's keep it that way!
5:15 pm est 

Re: @Michael Rogovsky 9:30 am

Your tactic is to repeat yourself like a child who asks "Why?" after
every preceding remark, until he wears out his opponent. Sort of a
rhetorical "Rope-a-Dope." But you, sir, are no Muhammad Ali...

("The sun is shining today, Michael."
  "But why?"
  "Because it generates energy, Michael, some of which is released as light."
  "But why??"
  "Because no single mode of energy transmission is 100% efficient,
Michael; especially between your synapses."
  "But why???")

When I'm hungry for this sort of thing, I'll go to a Mensa meeting
and start reciting Pi. While swallowing tacks...

That said, I'll fall for your gimmick one last time:

1) So, you agree with me about duplicate cafeteria services. Are you
dismissing my suggestion because one selectman supposedly mentioned
it? So far, the idea hasn't gotten traction. In fact, Therese Nelson
nearly walked out of a budget meeting last Spring at the mere mention
of this and similar economies that have no bearing on the quality of
education, let alone closing PHS.

2) When I say the BOS should cut without compromise, I mean without
horse-trading vehicles, machinery, operating hours, etc. with
department heads. As you attend meetings, you surely know what I
mean; if not, review the depressing details of last year's budget
season in Pru Sowers' coverage; or go to the PTV archives.

3) So far as steps needed to lobby leaders: this year, Michael, get a
copy of the budget and review it line-by-line in comparison with the
theses written by department heads...then challenge the expenditures
that don't seem to jibe, at public hearings.

Barbara Rushmore is brilliant at this, and Rick Murray can be quite
good when he's in the mood. But you don't need their talent to put a
stop to purchases that are still taken for granted.

-LL
5:12 pm est 

Re: Pubilic Pier Lighting

"The Lights Are so Bright on the Pier and On All Night.....

....that at first I thought there was some emergency. At one time, five
months back or less, there were minimal lights and that made sense at
one or two in the a.m. But now all night, blazing lights from one end
of MacMillan Pier to the other and for what reason? Nothing much is
happening but you'd think it was a high-density, big-city enterprise
that needed twenty-four hour lighting. Like the old Fulton Pier or
something comparable. Now it's blazing and you'd almost think there
was a perpetual commercial business or an all-night party, the lights
are so luminous and overwhelming.

Why in the winter should this be happening? It's out of proportion
to the use of the pier. Unless you're trying to be something you're
not. Unless you're trying to be the biggest fish in the little
pond/harbor.

There must be a thirty percent increase in the cost of electricity
since this new lighting program was instituted. Who's paying? Who's
realy footing the bill?"
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I can NOW see the Pier from my Truro back yard...
Looks like a Airport..lovely

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5:09 pm est 

Public Pier Corporation

Should we be paying for an out of town fisherman to be
living on his boat all summer which is tied up to his other boat that
also never goes out to sea?

He even has a lounge chair and bbq on it in the summer. In fact the
other one, is for sale and stripped. why are we subsidizing those kinds
of situations on the pier? why are we paying his ''' summer home'''' e
lectricity bills, fresh water and slip instead of renting his space out to l
arge recreational yachts that pay the Town so much more?

Why, because he says nice things about the Pier Corp. and that is his
reward: they look the other way.

What I have learned in the last couple of years through public
records etc, is that the people who have told me to leave well enough
alone on MacMillan Pier and some who have spoken up in favor of the
Pier Corporation at town meeting last spring for instance, all were
benefiting from violations of the lease agreement with the Town.

There is close to 200k that the Town is not getting each year because
our lease with them is just a suggestion to them. After five years,
$1,000,000 of income forever lost.

The sweet deals on MacMillan Pier must stop. Subsidized floating
docks and fixed finger piers should have the same strict and
transparent application standard of those who apply for taxpayer
subsidized housing.

The tenants and all their related documentation should be made public
and on their website. That's transparency!

Also, on my 2009 short list to do

Candace Nagle

ps

they continue to refuse to release all applications on the floating
docks. Can you spell...cover up...?
5:06 pm est 

Question Authority

I wish Barry Scott well. Something doesn't sit right about this
story, and never has. I don't mean his: I mean the police. And the
D.A, which shaped the jury's case.

No one disputes that this physically slight man appeared on page one
of The Banner with his face bashed in. And how; I've seen corpses
after accidents who had prettier mugs than Scott's after the
Provincetown Police got though with him.

Remarks like Rogovsky's bow and scrape and put the power and glory of
the police beyond question. I agree with an earlier poster who
described this viewpoint as "jingoistic." Ditto those of posters
whose contempt for Scott seems to exceed the usually nasty standard
of this blog.

Rogovsky is entitled to his opinion, of course. But I've seen too
much police abuse to presume that "it's different here," let alone
that Scott had it coming to him. If that disgusting picture didn't
impress naysayers, what standard would do? Perhaps that video from
Oakland, of a victim shot dead, facedown and unarmed, by the BART
Police?

If rumors of an FBI investigation are untrue, those who have
mentioned them will be discredited, including myself. Meanwhile, I
doubt the police will be compromised in spirit or performance.

The best thing that Barry Scott can do is press on, if he has a beef.
None of us will be the poorer because he questions authority, which
is part of what being American supposedly means.

-LL
5:02 pm est 

Re: Board Stiff

Remember how Tweeter just up and closed it doors? Well
Board Stiff up and let his entire staff go. He didn't tell them to
return in the Spring or anything. The guy I know who works there is
leaving the Cape--gave his landlord notice. Too bad.
5:00 pm est 

Time to Move Forward

Barry Scott is a non-issue in my mind.  He was found
guilty, that's it.  He's welcome to appeal the decision, that's how
it works in our country.  But, in my mind, he's a non-issue, time to
move forward.
4:55 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott

Barry, you had your 15 minutes it's now time for you to go away. 
You've beaten a dead horse long enough.  just say goodbye Barry your
old news.  Nobody cares about your made up issues.
4:54 pm est 

Barry Scott : Hope For Change

By remaining silent, the people of Provincetown have made
this situation worse. The truth is the truth. I will continue to do
the correct and honorable thing.

Unfortunately, the people who post on here do not seem to know
anything about the case, the facts and decency. I hope you are not
next to be the victim of Provincetown police brutality and lies. It
is a pain that I wish on no one.

Once again, I did not resist arrest that night. Two UNTRAINED summer
officers beat me while no full-time officer was on site.

This is a fact that no one can change and why I fight for this
cause...when my 'conviction' was for $690.

With hope for real change in Provincetown,

Barry Scott
4:52 pm est 

Exit Stage Left.......Please!

And when Barry leaves, please ask him to take Micheal R
with him with his "I once knew a man who..." fairy tale motif
writings with him.

Michael, you fill these pages with echoing of what you said a day or
two before... You make assumptions left and right and move your
opinions like the tides.

I am just a small fish in a fish bowl and I do not have the room in
here to throw up so stop the spinning, please.

Slippery Fish (looking for the draminine)
4:50 pm est 

A Question of Intellect?

To say that if the police come for you; that you should go
with "hands at sides" and "without question" or protest seems better
suited to communist russia or imperial england or maybe china... but
to suggest that ANY AMERICAN should for go their right to protest; to
speak up for themselves, is simply ignorant and stupid.

I am not taking sides with or against Barry Scott, or the police...
but to say that we should go quietly and with out question, even if
we think we have not done anything wrong??? 

I have held my tongue about a certain constant blogger on here, but
now I must say I agree that this person has a dangerous lack of intellect
and really should think before giving up his civil liberties.

The police are simply people like everyone else. They make mistakes
just as often as anyone else. To blindly put faith in them; to blindly say
"well, they have a badge so they know better than me" is just stupid and
unamerican.

To equate a small town police person with Obama??? Beyond idiocy.
This person who blogs all day every day should really  stop and think
before he hits "post". I wonder if he has serious brain injury, or is
he just lacking in intellect?
4:46 pm est 

To: Mr. Barry Scott

The rumors on your behalf have slandered the town manager and the
police department. They have friends here who read what is said about
them.

The high school students read this blog--along with many other
people. There are police men here with children, families and
extended families! And your supporters slam this blog with slander
and insults on your behalf and you hale and encourage them.

Shame on You, Mr. Barry Scott, Shame on you,

Sincerely

Michael Rogovsky
4:39 pm est 

Oh, if Only Mikey Was Alive in Poland, Circa 1938...

The nazi's would come for him, and he would go quietly, with his hands at
his sides, with all the respect he would give Obama; he would go
quietly to his death.

Mikey, Mikey, Mikey... this country was built on peaceful resistance.
Yes, the police deserve respect, but you seem to think they are above
all thye rest of us and should never be questioned.
You really are an        .

Oh, and dear mister webmaster, don't you think posting here four,
five or six times a day, trying to get a letter in the paper weekly
sort of puts your baby Mikey into the public eye just as if he
actually ran for office?? He is fair for attacking, in my eyes. He
put himself out there, no one ever asked for his          
opinions in the first place.

And yes, advocating for us all to go quietly and without protest with
the police is      !
4:36 pm est 

Keep in Mind

It may not really be Mr. Scott posting in here and everyone is being
taken for suckers.

Just a thought.
4:27 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky on Barry Scott

"I have more honor and self esteem in fighting lies told by
the police department than I have ever had!And, if you believe
someone deserves being beaten at a quiet Alcoholics Anonymous
backyard party for not resisting arrest...then you should be kicked
off the force as well.

By the way, my story has never 'changed.' Not once. Now, the town and
the police department...that's another thing. Theirs has changed over
a dozen times. It's laughable."

Proudly and happily,
Barry Scott
-----------------------------------------------------------

Barry Scott, I'm very offended by your lies.
I'm not a police officer, but what your vicious rumors have done is
to bring derision on the reputation of this blog because this is
where they were posted.

This is a free country and a free speech Blog--but there are
consequences to your vicious lies, attempts at character
assassinations and insults to the town manager and to the police
department. These are honorable people. Just stop! Your name is
already mud.

Michael Rogovsky

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4:26 pm est 

Fewer Words is Sometimes a Better Option

As any good writer knows, editing is crucial for successful writing.
For a few collegues here, a diminshed word count would improve the
quality of their arguments.

Less is more, my friends.
4:19 pm est 

Despicable--Attn: Barry Scott--Despicable

"I cannot tell you who I am but I can tell everyone who reads this
that "you have definetely made this situation ten times worse by your
fabrications"...You have done your best to convince and involve
others into believing the Police have lied and that there is
corruption and now the Police have changed their stories several
times.."
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Attn: Barry Scott,I will identify myself because I did call he FBI
and speak to an agent and I did go and speak to a police officer to
ask if there is any validity to these dishonorable rumors.

Now, if this officer said "no comment" or some such thing  it would
have been one thing; but the expression on his face as though I had
just paid him the most terrible insult really hit me and he shook his
head saying that this is just so much garbage (he said crap)etc. Now
I feel badly that I asked him.

I wish I knew how to make take out a display ad in the Banner
apologizing to everyone for these vicious rumors. This is just
despicable. I hope that you feel like two cents.

Michael Rogovsky

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4:12 pm est 

Attn: Barry Scott

"I cannot tell you who I am but I can tell everyone who reads this
that "you have definitely made this situation ten times worse by your
fabrications"...

"You have done your best to convince and involve others into believing
the Police have lied and that there is corruption and now the Police
have changed their stories several times...You are trying without a
doubt to use your position whatever that may be to reach out and use
very poor tactics to paint a pictureof things that are far from what
happened hoping the Police will drop the charges or have pressure put
on the Court System to reach settlement that will make you look
good..."

"A lot of us are watching you spend money endlessly that personally I
think if you wanted to do something good, you would invest that money
into our school system or the renovations of Town Hall and be
remembered that way...But by the time you get done fighting the
Police, you won't have any money left to do something good as
that.Just think, whether anyone wants to believe what I have stated
in my first paragraph or the second paragraph that while you are
fighting the Police, you are also making P'town look bad and all this
could of been avoided if you just had the lowered the music when you
were asked the first time."
.......................................................................................................

Hear! Hear! Well Said. Barry Scott has caused damage to this town.
Barry, please be silent--you are embarrassing yourself. Don't be a
man of such little stature. Please remain silent.
10:47 am est 

Diagnosis: Beriberi

n. A nervous disease due to the deficiency of Vitamin B.

How many times did the Police approach the party on a noise complaint?
I know if it was me, I would have complied with the Police on the
first notice. If I thought that the complaint was unreasonable, I
would have dealt with the Police Chief, the neighbor(s) and perhaps
the Town Manager the next day. You were a guest/business man in Town
and should have followed the rules even though the noise complaint
may have been in your mind unreasonable.
It seems to me that you wanted to provoke and encourage a
confrontation with the Police and the Town.

My advice to you; get a life and go for weekly B-12 shots.

Falla da Rulles
10:34 am est 

Attn: Barry Scott

I cannot tell you who I am but I can tell everyone who reads this
that "you have definetely made this situation ten times worse by your
fabrications"...You have done your best to convince and involve
others into believing the Police have lied and that there is
corruption and now the Police have changed their stories several
times...You are trying without a doubt to use your position whatever
that may be to reach out and use very poor tactics to paint a picture
of things that are far from what happened hoping the Police will drop
the charges or have pressure put on the Court System to reach a
settlement that will make you look good...

Alot of us are watching you spend money endlessly that personally I
think if you wanted to do something good, you would invest that money
into our school system or the renovations of Town Hall and be
remembered that way...But by the time you get done fighting the
Police, you won't have any money left to do something good as that.
Just think, wether anyone wants to believe what I have stated in my
first paragraph or the second paragraph that while you are fighting
the Police, you are also making P'town look bad and all this could of
been avoided if you just had the lowered the music when you were
asked the first time.
9:37 am est 

Is There No Other Place to Go For a Decent Meal Off Season? Suggestions?

Check out this web site for suggestions, it lists open restaurants
throughout the year among other things.

www dot celebrateprovincetown dot com
9:33 am est 

Re: Barry Scott Here!

"First post and not afraid to proudly state my name. I have nothing
to hide and the truth on my side."
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And it seems that you endorse gossip being spread on your behalf.

Whether you fly into Provincetown on your private jet to attend a
fete or if you are at a Bar-B-Que to celebrate a niece or nephew who
passed their test and is now an electrician; if the police are
called, you treat them as they approach you the way you would treat
Barack Obama if he was approaching yourespectfully.

And, if you had caused a disturbance and were being arrested, you go
peacefully, with your hands at your sides, and approach the squad car
as though it is Barack Obamas limousine.

Ive had three Provincetown policemen as my neighbors. I knew a man
who was in the seminary before he became a police man and I knew a
coal miner who joined the Marines and then moved to Washington D.C.
to become a police man.

The men and women on our force deserve respect at all times. No one
takes as much guff as the police do, not even the selectmen.

Do you really think that they get up in the morning and say to
themselves, Gee, I hope that there is a party someplace so I can
hassle guests and create bad feelings in the community and end up
going to court.

The police in this town deserve our respect they are public servants
and they are here to serve and protect the people of Provincetown.

Michael Rogovsky
9:29 am est 

Re: Affordable Housing and Budget Cutting

I met a person in a top Town position who thought that
affordable housing was for Provincetown Residents only. If this
person was ignorant of the facts--then how many other people were too.

In November, the B of S has broadened the categories for the
eligibility of Provincetown Citizens. Kudos for them for doing this.

Now, they and the finance committee must do what is necessary to cut
the budget where necessary and I hope that folks here will take the
information from L.L. and encourage them to act upon it.

Michael Rogovsky
9:25 am est 

Re: Get Ready Ptown!!

"Soon, the town will be responsible for the highway route 6 and all
the paving, repaving, snow removal, tree clearing, grass mowing,
linep ainting, catch basin cleaning and lights. That only means more
personel!"
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And then the land will probably be given to an affordable housing
developer to build a housing development there.
9:22 am est 

Michael Rogovsky Comments

"1) Among PHS and VMES duplications are supply purchases,
and the entirety of the cafeteria operations. Procedures having to do
with how children are handled outside the classroom, etc. are also
too costly."
..........................................................

A number of people have been pushing for one cafeteria to be used by
two schools--even a member of the board of selectmen.

****Please be specific: What Procedures?

The answer couldn't be simpler! The BOS needs to get real about
cuts,and at long last without "the spirit of compromise" with
department heads that leaves the dirty work to voters at Town Meeting
and in the voting booth.

******Explain exactly what step by step actions you are referring to
when you say the B of S should get real about cuts?

At least $100,000 of last year's million-dollar shortfall, and the
marginally smaller one projected for this year, might have been
averted if not for overshooting by a few department heads in a raw
effort to protect turf.

Some readers might faint if they knew about the cost of bells and
whistles that represent overreaching goals in
hard times.

****Knowledge is power, so tell us exactly what steps should be taken
so we can proceed in lobbying our Town leaders to take these steps.

Thank you for your time and insight,

Michael Rogovsky
9:20 am est 

Re-run of FY2009

That's all I see and sense. Instead of cutting, freezing salaries and
laying off personnel, we are seeing Overrides to pay for services the
BOS can't cut.

Send each of them a Davy Crocker knife and have them start cutting.
Then send them a Davy Crokcer raccon hat, put it on their heads and
hope for inspiration. Otherwise, we are doomed with the BOS' poor,
cowardly, smile-forever attitude and action.

Please, we don't need your L word: lecturing. Instead we need the
real L word: leadership. Why is this asking too much?
9:12 am est 

Here's Where I Agree

It's time that the town officials and that does mean you Sharon and
the BOS and yes, the Finance Committee, do their due diligence. It's
time they--all of them or some of them or gosh, gee, even one of
them--made the cuts that need to be made to get a balanced budget and
not leave it up to the town residents to do their work for them. Year
after year, they cry, moan, skirm and in the end fail to take the
decisions they should take. The positions and departments they should
have cuts last year, now are costing even more. And the problems and
hard decisions will not go away. They will get worse.

so get a hold of some large cahunas--your own-- and finally gain the
courage to act and lead. Being wimps--sorry but that is what you have
been--instead of having strong character avoids the decision you will
finally have to make. And stop the tears. Just act.
9:09 am est 

The Lights Are so Bright on the Pier and On All Night.....

.....that at first I thought there was some emergency. At one time, five
months back or less, there were minimal lights and that made sense at
one or two in the a.m. But now all night, blazing lights from one end
of MacMillan Pier to the other and for what reason? Nothing much is
happening but you'd think it was a high-density, big-city enterprise
that needed twenty-four hour lighting. Like the old Fulton Pier or
something comparable. Now it's blazing and you'd almost think there
was a perpetual commercial business or an all-night party, the lights
are so luminous and overwhelming.

Why in the winter should this be happening? It's out of proportion
to the use of the pier. Unless you're trying to be something you're
not. Unless you're trying to be the biggest fish in the little
pond/harbor.

There must be a thirty percent increase in the cost of electricity
since this new lighting program was instituted. Who's paying? Who's
realy footing the bill?
9:07 am est 

Re: Barry Scott

"Get over yourself Barry. You deserved everything you got.
You'll never recieve satisfaction over this - you'll get even more
bitter and more crazy than you are now. Keep
crying - it is very entertaining!"
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That gave me a good laugh! I have more honor and self esteem in
fighting lies told by the police department than I have ever had!
And, if you believe someone deserves being beaten at a quiet
Alcoholics Anonymous backyard party for not resisting arrest...then
you should be kicked off the force as well.

By the way, my story has never 'changed.' Not once. Now, the town and
the police department...that's another thing. Theirs has changed over
a dozen times. It's laughable.


Proudly and happily,
Barry Scott
9:04 am est 

Saturday, January 17, 2009

My Thoughts
 
@8:36 pm, @8:49 pm:

1) Among PHS and VMES duplications are supply purchases, and the
entirety of the cafeteria operations. Procedures having to do with
how children are handled outside the classroom, etc. are also too
costly.

2) @8:36 wrote "**LOCAL WORKERS SPEND THEIR MONEY IN PROVINCETOWN"

Why, yes - that's what I said, in great detail. Do I hear an echo in the room?

3)  @ 8:36 wrote **CONTACT THE STATE AND INQUIRE ABOUT THIS?

I volunteer on a board and in private charities - but I have my
limits. Note that I don't fault the town on the health-care issue; a
most capable professional is on the case. But this person has not
solved the problem because as yet there is no answer. That must come
from the state and the federal government, both of which have pledged
more health care assistance without fleshing out enough details.


4)**HOW SHOULD THIS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED LAST SPRING
**HOW SHOULD THIS BE PRESENTED THIS SPRING.

The answer couldn't be simpler! The BOS needs to get real about cuts,
and at long last without "the spirit of compromise" with department
heads that leaves the dirty work to voters at Town Meeting and in the
voting booth.

At least $100,000 of last year's million-dollar shortfall, and the
marginally smaller one projected for this year, might have been
averted if not for overshooting by a few department heads in a raw
effort to protect turf. Some readers might faint if they knew about
the cost of bells and whistles that represent overreaching goals in
hard times.

5) @8:49 I've said nothing against the library. It's the best bargain
in town, especially now; and is better run than any other department,
notwithstanding its unique fundraising capacity.

-LL
10:44 pm est 

Get Ready Ptown!!

Soon, the town will be responsible for the highway route 6 and all
the paving, repaving, snow removal, tree clearing, grass mowing, line
painting, catch basin cleaning and lights. That only means more
personel! Where do I sign up??????!!!!!!!
10:09 pm est 

To: Only Pebble

Little self-righteous are ya?  The powers that be aren't talking
laying off employees.  They're talking furloughing employees.  Which
means you will be forced to take 2 or more weeks vacation without
pay.  And with your attitude, they're going to get a lot of support
while you're not going to get much sympathy.

Lotta good your raise did ya huh?
10:08 pm est 

Re: Pebble on the Beach

"It seems that the only  is a disgruntled
town employee who talks about all of the chiefs due to his jealousy
that he can never attain that position.

The pebble listed all of the senior positions because this pebble is
small and insignificant and feels all strong and powerful because of
posting here.

It is good that you keep hidden rather than embarrass yourself with
your comments being attached to your name"
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Whooo...get back rita!
Chief's????  "senior' positions???
What world do YOU live in? Last time I checked ADMINISTRATIVE
ASSISTANT was defined as "support staff".  Ever hear the term "NON
ESSENCIAL STAFF???
How about Tool?
Cog maybe?

Oh yea, you are also wrong about me being a disgruntled employee. I'm
a very HAPPY Town Employee. I Love my job. Why wouldn't I be? I enjoy
working only 4 days a week, and it looks like Sharon just might make
that 3!

FYI...The Union...is in the first year of a 3 year contract. Thanks
Sharon! There will be NO negotiations again before FY2012. Sorry, I
don't know about police or teacher unions but short of laying off a
few guys {last hired, first fired)only to rehire the same people a
few months later to empty your trash is NOT going to help bridge the
HUGE difference between what was ASKED FOR and what the Town HAS,
just as there is a big difference between NEEDS and WANTS.

With that, I remain

The ONLY Pebble etc.............
9:02 pm est 

Economic Realities Demand Serious Considerations

The severity of the economic situation can't be over
stated. We will be facing town meeting and approving budgets in a few
months.

How will we proceed? How serious is the school taking the concerns of
the taxpayers? Yes it is all about the children--but it is also about
pay for this. Please read the Boston Globe editorial about reducing
the school budget.

Will the Finance committee stand up for us? How do we proceed on the
overrides? So many of us say one thing in public-but vote differently
in private.

I sincerely do not believe that Town Government is cavalier about
this situation. How do we proceed?

I've lost a third of my IRA. Costs are spiraling...Obama can't change
this 24 months much less 2 months. We all need to tighten our belts
and, as one blogger put it, use it up, wear it out..and I'll
add...and ring another week's use out of it. This is what we are
facing now and in the summer.
8:57 pm est 

Re: Run For School Committee:

"1) School regionalization is inevitable. Even before 7%-11% is saved
as a result (as suggested by the latest report), we continue to
duplicate services between PHS and VMES. Cutting them would save big
bucks. Now.

Touche!"
>>>>>>>>>>>> ..................................<<<<<<<<<<<<

"An opportunity for a Serious audit of the budget; serious
deliberation of special needs cost paid for by the state; a real
chance for change.
Touche. I will vote for you with that kind of platform!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>....................................<<<<<<<<<<<<

DOUBLE TOUCHE! As Far as I'm Concerned...Run for School Committee.
You would have many people's vote..
8:54 pm est 

I Doubt It

"I also believe in karma and sadly, the town is getting it in spades
for abusing my partner, Bryan, and me that night.
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This is a crock of nonsense.  Get over yourself Barry. You deserved
everything you got. You'll never recieve satisfaction over this -
you'll get even more bitter and more crazy than you are now. Keep
crying - it is very entertaining!
8:51 pm est 

I Want Some Insights:

"The deep fat that simmers and bubbles year after year is not unneeded
people: it is unnecessary STUFF."

***(This is a contradiction--what do you mean)?

"Despite Town Hall's sad example of what can happen when maintenance
(which requires materials) is neglected, I don't sense the ethic that
got this town through The Great Depression: "use it up, wear it out,
make it do or do without."

***(You mean new library etc.?)elaborate.

***For me: I feel Town Hall should have been renovated first and then
build a library--but didn't David Davis offer to do just this for the
town?
8:49 pm est 

Friends, Stay Away From XXXXX!

The only reason we go to          restaurant off season is because
it's one of the few that's open year 'round.  But never again!

My wife went there and had their mystery "meatloaf" which made her so
violently ill, she vomited for two days straight.  Awful.

           food is mediocre even under the best conditions. But now
it's sunk to a new low.  I beg everyone who's reading this to stay
away. I'd rather eat one of those micro-waved burritos at the
Cumberland Farms on Shank Painter than risk the food poisoning 
you're guaranteed to get at wretched          !

Is there no other place to go for a decent meal off season?  Suggestions?

Thanks folks.
8:46 pm est 

Re: Barry Scott Here!

"First post and not afraid to proudly state my name. I have nothing to
hide and the truth on my side."
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Really???Then why not Stand Tall and DEBUNK THE GOSSIP ABOUT THE FBI
and denounce the statements about CORRUPTION AND LIES abounding in
TOWN HALL AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

It is only  now that you step forward in this spot light of lies and
gossip rather than being rigorous in just simply stating the truth.
AH, Thou Doest Protest Too Much.  Your credibility is weak as water
and your host of witnesses resoundingly silent.
8:41 pm est 

Re: Public Pier Corporation Illegal Distinction

"This illegal distinction and several others by the Pier
Corp. on MacMillan Pier will stop in 2009.  It is on my short to do
list.'
----------------------------------------------------------------

Hear! Hear! Broadcast this to the Powers that Be at Town Hall and to
the citizens--this must stop. Good Work!
8:38 pm est 

Re: @10:15 a.m. ["Re: Michael Rogovsky"]

Because you asked for my .02:

"1) School regionalization is inevitable. Even before 7%-11% is saved
as a result (as suggested by the latest report), we continue to
duplicate services between PHS and VMES. Cutting them would save
bigbucks. Now."
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

**PLEASE STATE THE DUPLICATE SERVICES:
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"2)As for reducing the town payroll: I am chary of this. We are an
isolated economy whose employees spend disproportionately many
dollars locally. When tourist season ends we become the wind beneath
the wings of our own economy. Let's not create our own Hell."
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

**LOCAL WORKERS SPEND THEIR MONEY IN PROVINCETOWN
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Health benefits are, however, a fascinating proposition.
Massachusetts' new universal health care leaves me puzzled about the
state's proper role of insuring municipal employees under hardship.
Meanwhile, President-elect Obama's spending plan, released earlier
his week, promises big health care $$ that may become relevant."
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

**CONTACT THE STATE AND INQUIRE ABOUT THIS?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"3) As for abbreviating hours and essential services: Sharon Lynn, the
BOS and voters struck a good compromise last year, but it wasn't
pretty. Ultimately, voters ought not have to cut the budget from the
floor."
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

**HOW SHOULD THIS HAVE BEEN PRESENTED LAST SPRING
**HOW SHOULD THIS BE PRESENTED THIS SPRING.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"The deep fat that simmers and bubbles year after year is not unneeded
people: it is unnecessary STUFF. Despite Town Hall's sad example of
what can happen when maintenance (which requires materials) is
neglected, I don't sense the ethic that got this town through The
Great Depression: "use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without."
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

**SO IT ISN'T DEEP FAT BUR RATHER IT IS NECESSARY SPENDING.


-Laughing Last
8:36 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

Ya' think the police might have a self-interest in swatting down the
FBI rumor? Throw away your gullible pills and get a clue.

Anyway, time will tell.

-Lauging Last
8:29 pm est 

CPC Vote

I can see the bread lines now and whose in them after the CPC votes!


I hope their bread is STALE!
8:27 pm est 

You Are Very, Very Funny!

New This Fall on PTV

MacMillan & wife starring Candice Nagle and Rex Hudson.

I will only sign up for another season if I am divorced in one!


cn
8:26 pm est 

Cameras Versus Electric Meters

Why don't the pier directors vote on putting electric
meters down there and start charging? Only then will you see the
lights not on during the day or when they aren't on their boats! When
are WE ever going to be part of their club?

Where's the back room to cut deals on the pier, taxpayers want entry!


Security cameras vs. electric meters? gee something to protect their
friends or something to protect those that are paying for the
pier--us?


I too want a full investigation and NOT by them!


Never Caught a Fish
Never Sold a Fish
8:24 pm est 

Public Pier:Tenants

Aren't you one of those private people who has a private boat on a
float on McMillan Pier?Inquiring minds would like to know?
8:22 pm est 

Touche!

An opportunity for a Serious audit of the budget; serious
deliberation of special needs cost paid for by the state; a real
chance for change.

Touche. I will vote for you with that kind of platform!
2:38 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

Mr. Rogovsky will have the last laugh when the CPC votes to
allocate funds to town hall. The selectmen want it and when they
meet,  public statements and letters supporting that will far
outweigh those who support funds going to affordable housing.

Good job, Mr. R on your campaign!
2:36 pm est 

Re: Whose Paying All The Higher Electric Bills For the Overly-Lit PIer

Thank you for bringing attention to the lighting issues on the pier.

It is even worse than you posted. many unattended boats leave their
lights on all day and night all at a cost to taxpayers. There is no
oversight of this absolute waste of taxpayers's money. I think George
Byrant has photos of boats on the pier during the day with all their
lights on. Lighting on the pier is a pet peeve of his.

Their electric bills are over 40k a year. Most harbors charge for
electricity but not the Pier Corp. because as you put it quite
well...it can't be clubby...

but unfortunately for us, it has been for years.

candace nagle
2:29 pm est 

Police Debunk FBI Story

I talked to a police officer who debunked the FBI
story..forgot to sign my name. Just Garbage he said; his ire over the
blog palatable. I see why this blog is considered just hateful.

Michael Rogovsky
2:27 pm est 

No Truth to the Story?

I talked to a police officer this morning and he has no
idea where this FBI story came from. It is just garbage I was told.
And thus, the blog gets another black eye and is seen as hateful and
derisive.
2:25 pm est 

Barry Scott Here!

First post and not afraid to proudly state my name. I have nothing
to hide and the truth on my side.

I never said anything to deserve being beaten by the Provincetown
Police within one minute of meeting them, especially if you are a
true American and believe in freedom of speech. Believe me, as a
professional DJ for 27 years I would never say 'we hate the police'
in a backyard while closing a party upon request. Face it people,
your police over-reacted and beat me and my partner. Details are on
my web site.

Being convicted in an Orleans court means nothing. The town did
everything, including lying, to get their little conviction. The jury
didn't get to hear all the facts and when a juror later contacted me,
the 'judge' decided he didn't care. That's corruption. Everyone knows
the truth and the truth will win out in the end.

Bottom line? I shouldn't have been arrested in the first place.
Secondly, no one deserves to be beaten, even in Provincetown, while
not resisting arrest. They picked on the wrong guy. I believe in
America and will fight this in Boston where the law is understood and
followed...not on the Cape, where corruption is everywhere.

Unfortunately, Provincetown, where residents and Police lie to
protect each other, is a town without a soul. This from someone who
has been there since 1983.

I also believe in karma and sadly, the town is getting it in spades
for abusing my partner, Bryan, and me that night. It was inhumane and
everyone who actually takes the time to read the story understands
that no one should be beaten for a noise bylaw (with one chronic
complainer,                  )in a private backyard while doing what the
police said. The story has made it viral across the country via the
net.

Sorry, but you all need to get a grip. Think if this happened to you
or a loved one?

Barry Scott
2:23 pm est 

Re: @10:15 a.m. ["Re: Michael Rogovsky"]


Because you asked for my .02:

1) School regionalization is inevitable. Even before 7%-11% is saved
as a result (as suggested by the latest report), we continue to
duplicate services between PHS and VMES. Cutting them would save big
bucks. Now.

2)As for reducing the town payroll: I am chary of this. We are an
isolated economy whose employees spend disproportionately many
dollars locally. When tourist season ends we become the wind beneath
the wings of our own economy. Let's not create our own Hell.

  Health benefits are, however, a fascinating proposition.
Massachusetts' new universal health care leaves me puzzled about the
state's proper role of insuring municipal employees under hardship.
Meanwhile, President-elect Obama's spending plan, released earlier
this week, promises big health care $$ that may become relevant.

3) As for abbreviating hours and essential services: Sharon Lynn, the
BOS and voters struck a good compromise last year, but it wasn't
pretty. Ultimately, voters ought not have to cut the budget from the
floor.

The deep fat that simmers and bubbles year after year is not unneeded
people: it is unnecessary STUFF. Despite Town Hall's sad example of
what can happen when maintenance (which requires materials) is
neglected, I don't sense the ethic that got this town through The
Great Depression: "use it up, wear it out, make it do or do without."

-Laughing Last
2:16 pm est 

One Example For the Inquiring Mind:

After receiving 36/38 applications etc. of the tenants on the
subsidized floating docks, I was disgusted by what I saw.
Multimillionaires, out-of state residents,  tenants with two home
addresses, fishing permits valid for three days and that which I wont
post but have brought to the selectmen, all getting slips on the
backs of taxpayers.

Tell that to the full time lobsterman they have singled out for years
and made him have expensive liability insurance and put the town and
the pier corp. on his policy but do not require of any of their
friends,. xxxx. or private charter boat tenants etc. on the towns
floating docks to do the same. This lobsterman has publicly
complained in the past about not getting support from the Pier Corp.
and his pleas for some type of relief has always fallen on deaf ears.

What they are doing down there is nothing short of morally
reprehensible and illegal according to 310 CMR 9.07(1) let alone
violating their lease agreement with the Town. Their illegal
bookkeeping is just part of the illegal activity down on the pier
that security cameras unfortunately cant uncover.

This illegal distinction and several others by the Pier Corp. on
MacMillan Pier will stop in 2009.  It is on my short to do list.

Candace Nagle
2:11 pm est 

Re: Building Inspector

Building Permits Do Not Pay for the Building Inspector or
Building Commissioner

All the monies go into the general fund. It should remain in the
Community Development department and be used to defray costs tied to
construction and enforcement. However, it does not.

The key issue is that Russell Braun was hired at a higher salary then
he should have been given that he was not even qualified to be even a
Building Inspector when he was hired. So they combined both Building
Inspector and Building Commissioner in order to give Braun more money
and save the town the expense of two positions. Now look at what has
happened!

Given the lack of enforcement in the Building Department, we don't
need two positions. Cut now. Building permits and large projects are
significant down. Then see what happens in two years. Maybe then, we
could use a building inspector if the economy goes upward. Until
then, cut, reduce and save.
2:06 pm est 

Public Pier Corporation Serious Change Required

There needs to be oversight of the Pier. The reins need to
be tightened. We need all of the revenue possible from the pier. It
can't become clubby and accommodating--but needs to be serious and
seriously handled.
2:03 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

Once again, Mikey posts one of his "Michael R. makes sense"
postings to shore up his lame arguments.
Mikey: You should at least try to change your writing style when you
write your little              comments about your own last posting...
As for your letter in the Banner... I read it many times over trying
to get it to make sense; to no avail.
Let me get this straight,, you want PTown to be a place in which the
police are above critisism and or investigation and also get every
penny they need for whatever; such as motorcycles to patrol
Commercial Street??? And then you end your letter with a weird
reference to Malone???
Time to adjust your meds Mikey; time to back away from your keyboard;
TIME TO REALIZE THAT NO ONE REALLY WANTSD TO HEAR YOU MAKE
NONSENSICAL JINGOISTIC COMMENTS ANYMORE.

Just who asked for opinion on anything, anyway???
2:00 pm est 

Coming Changes in School Committee Afford a Real Chance For Real Change

"You are correct. Miss Nelson cannot run again. This
presents an opportunity for a new campaign platform never seen before
in Provincetown: regionalization.
Two openings, Two opportunities! and perhaps there is a swing vote!"
------------------------------------------------------------

An opportunity for a Serious audit of the budget; serious
deliberation of special needs cost paid for by the state; a real
chance for change.
1:56 pm est 

Re: The Building Inspector is Not a Cuttable Position

"Nor is it an assistant position. It is a full time job. Our whole building
industry depends on this man to do his job so we can do our jobs. And
there is still plenty of work going on in Town to warrant his full
time pay.

Peter Page"
-----------------------------------------------------------

Now tell us where cuts should be made or action taken and your view
on overrides.
1:52 pm est 

Re: New This Fall on PTV

"MacMillan & wife starring Candice Nagle and Rex Hudson.
The FBI with Mikey Rogo as Effen Zimbalis jr. Mayberry RFD
with Don Knotts as Jeff Jarran! The Adams Family starring
Sandy Turner and Bonnie, bought to you by Campbells soup.
and The Monday night movie. This weeks movie - John
Waters Pink Flamingos 2009 - Return to the Trailers! featuring
Sharon, michele, elaine, Mary jo, and the odd couple of television
Austin and Dave. Followed by the final episode of RM  222 P-town.
Schools out for ever featuring Alice Cooper as the beaver"
-------------------------------------------------------------

Now this was truly funny and original! (John waters Pink Flamingos
2009--Return to the Trailers--what a hoot!).

Michael Rogovsky
1:50 pm est 

The Courage to ExpressYour Convictions


Michael R. write a letter to the Banner encouraging the
Finance committee to withhold their recommendations for budgets just
because they want to get along by going along.

I'm one of the people who raises my hand with everyone watching and
then voting no on the override ballots. I went to this high
school--but it is time to close it.

My husband and I are on fixed incomes..you aren't afraid to speak
out. Don't listen to the mean things that are written here about you.
Follow your convictions.

1:47 pm est 

No CPA Funds For Town Hall Results in $1.5 Million Additional Deficit

If the CPC funds don't go to town hall, then isn't the
defecit actually going to be $1,500,000.00 because the taxpayers will
have to pay this additional cost?
1:44 pm est 

Budget Woes

Budget woes have hit other municipalities too. Dartmouth MA
even turned off its street lights as well as operating the dump only
three days a week.

Perhaps we do indeed need to close Town Hall two days a week, the
Library et al.

The finance committee and Michele Coutour want to cut budgets and not
have overrides--very commendable! It must be done.

Now, what are the repercussions if we have to vote for overrides? And
if voted on--be prepared to have them fail at the ballot box!

Of course they pass at town meeting with everyone watching everyone
else--my hand will be the first one up--but I'm voting them down at
the ballot box just as speedily.

Please, Please make the school budget an override issue: I can't wait
for the school budget to be an override. We will save $700,000 a year
by closing the high school.
1:40 pm est 

Whose Paying All The Higher Electric Bills for the Overly-Lit PIer

There used to be fewer lights on MacMillan Pier.And what was the
problem? That Michele Couture couldn't see her shadow? It's now lit
up like a perpetual firecracker and through the nights the pier is
overly lit. Someone is paying for the increases in electricity. And
why? It is excessive and we surely don't need twenty two cameras. For
what? Another bad idea like the barge that cost and is costing
$16,000 and the shacks that were supposed to encourage business. How
many bad ideas can one group come up with? Oh, I shouldn't ask,
should I.
1:37 pm est 

In Today's Boston Globe Editorial:

"REDUCING THE BUDGET:
Governor Patrick's readiness project states that for school districts
that haven't done so already, moving retirees into the federal
medicare program would reduce costs by a total of $115 million a year.

The panel also calls for addressing runaway health care costs by
moving school systems into the state's Group Insurance Commission,
with its considerable purchasing power, or other other alternative
programs with low rates, and by letting school systems make decisions
outside the collective bargaining process."
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Why not move all of the town's workers into this program?

Theses adjustment--which could require legislation wont' be popular
with unions, but could save upwards of $100 million a year.

May the finance committee and the B of S make such demands to help
balance the budget.
1:35 pm est 

Re: School Committee Chair Election

You are correct. Miss Nelson cannot run again. This
presents an opportunity for a new campaign platform never seen before
in Provincetown: regionalization.

Two openings, Two opportunites!

And perhaps there is a swing vote!
10:21 am est 

Re: Building Inspector

I would like to clear up a misconception some people seem
to have about the position of Building Inspector.  I have been in
town for about 14 years, and in all that time we have always had two
separate positions of Building Commissioner and Building Inspector.
There have been short periods of time when both positions were not
filled because no one wanted the job.

  I believe your confusion about this matter comes from a brief
period of time in recent history. When our last temporary Building
Commissioner, Matt Mulvey left, our current Building Commissioner
Russell Braun; who had been hired as our Building Inspector after
Dick Anderson left; was promoted to fill this position.

    At that time the Town was in a lot of other changes and money
shortages. The Town officials decided not to hire a new Building
Inspector until the following fiscal year so as to make that salary
available to cover some other expense.

    The job of Building Inspector has always existed and has always
been funded. The fees we pay for building permits go to cover the
cost of this position. Property taxes do not pay his salary.  Both
positions are necessary as they both have plenty of work to keep them
both busy full time.

    The Building Inspector is not a cuttable position. Nor is it an
assistant position. It is a full time job. Our whole building
industry depends on this man to do his job so we can do our jobs. And
there is still plenty of work going on in Town to warrant his full
time pay.

    Peter Page
10:19 am est 

Michael R. Makes Sense:

We are in debt and we need every
possible penny to cover expenses that are shared by all of the
taxpayers in town.

It is time for the special interests to step down and hold their
tongues; they have received enough millions from the taxpayers.

Go and complain about his "rhetoric" to people on fixed incomes and
laid off fathers and mothers who own homes here.
10:16 am est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky:

"I wouldn't be knee-jerk in my support of the police on the Barry Scott matter.

I kid you not: my understanding is that the Feds are indeed looking
into this. Worrisome for our town if true; anyway, your phone call
and even my note are in vain, for the FBI rarely discloses on going
inquiries.

- Laughing Last"
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To laughing last: What can be done about the budget? What cuts do you
believe should be made? Some people think that town employees should
pay more of their health coverage or have it replaced with the
state's plan.

What hours should be shortened? What is your take on the situation?
10:15 am est 

FBI Investigaton?

"Michael Rogovsky:

I wouldn't be knee-jerk in my support of the police on the Barry Scott matter.

I kid you not: my understanding is that the Feds are indeed looking
into this. Worrisome for our town if true; anyway, your phone call
and even my note are in vain, for the FBI rarely discloses ongoing
inquiries.

- Laughing Last"
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You write:Worrisome for our town IF TRUE. Why, when Barry Scott takes
his case to court and loses is it now bandied about town that the FBI
is investigating the Police Department?

These officers are real people and it is their reputations that are
being tarnished. Whispers about an FBI investigation of our police
department is gossip.
Michael Rogovsky
10:13 am est 

New This Fall on PTV

MacMillan & wife starring Candice Nagle and Rex Hudson.    
The FBI with Mikey Rogo as Effen Zimbalis jr. Mayberry RFD
with Don Knotts as Jeff Jarran! The Adams Family starring
Sandy Turner and Bonnie, bought to you by Campbells soup.
and The Monday night movie. This weeks movie - John
Waters Pink Flamingos 2009 - Return to the Trailers! featuring
Sharon, michele, elaine, Mary jo, and the odd couple of television
Austin and Dave. Followed by the final episode of RM  222 P-town.
Schools out for ever featuring Alice Cooper as the beaver
10:12 am est 

Re: Pebble on the Beach

It seems that the only  is a disgruntled
town employee who talks about all of the chiefs due to his jealousy
that he can never attain that position.

The pebble listed all of the senior positions because this pebble is
small and insignificant and feels all strong and powerful because of
posting here.

It is good that you keep hidden rather than embarrass yourself with
your comments being attached to your name.

Glad that you have this venue so you can feel so important in your
delusion that you make such a major impact on the town with your sage
advice and wise commentary.
10:08 am est 

Re:The Law & McMillan Pier

Would someone explain what McMillan Pier and the Law is referring to
and who's feifdom is about to end?
Inquiring minds would like to know!
12:05 am est 

Mudheads are Part of Our Past
 
With Charles Hawthorne, Mudheads became a valued part of our artistic
tradtion. Mudheads had a value. However, Mudheads should not be how
our selectmen act nor who they should be. Mudheads for the sake of
art. But not Mudheads as our elected officials.

Still, it's an interesting juxtaposition.
12:04 am est 

Tuesday Should Be a National Holiday

Great that Monday is Martin Luther Day and a national holiday.
Remember when Arizona was the only state holding out. Thanks not to
McCain who was part of the Arizona No Team. Yes, I know, time brings
change.

But Tuesday is a day to celebrate. It is a fabulous two-some: one
leaves and the other arrives. Happy Inauguration to all--however you
voted.
12:02 am est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

I read Michael's letter in the banner. Apparently this
isn't the only venue he choices to spread his rhetoric.
12:01 am est 

Is This a Great Space or What?

FOX has BLOGO and now, in light of recent events...Michael R and the
FBI! We have our very own ROGO! When I couldn't post yesterday I was
convinced that ROGO wasn't really in NY w/his "erotic art".
but in a secret location, closeted with Homeland Security in a
intensive 2 day secret agent workshop. He will return to us soon with
ever more unchecked ego and the ability to have his face broadcast at
will on all 22 Pier camera's simultaniously. But, to us here at
MYPACC, he will always be, Our ROGO.

Bonnie asked how we know that NO requests were made by Sharon to Dept
heads to cut FY09. That's an easy one Bonnie, I read the budget.
Right across the board ALL departments have increases in both A and B
budgets (salarys and expenses). You can see it too, just go to
Trailor Hall and ask the TM's Administrative Assistant, or The
Selectmans Administrative Assistant or even the Assistant TM's
Administrative Assistant.

Oh, before I forget...Someone once said that Imitation is the
Sincerest form of flattery. I just find it annoying so I will
respectfully request that you sink the Rock and use a little of your
own imagination.

Thank you.I remain,

The ONLY Pebble on the Beach
12:00 am est 

If Cuts Have to be Made, Cuts Have to Be Made

"Nantucket has cut its departments 10% across the board and
they will be laying off seventeen people. That's just the reality
of these extremely hard times."
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  AND IN PROVINCETOWN: Town Government must play hardball with the
union. If they don't start making concessions, we lay off some of
them.

Instead of town employees getting 80% of their health insurance paid
for; reduce it to 50% which is more in line with the state, I
believe. This would reduce our premiums significantly.

If they don't agree, tell them we are going to put all their names in
a hat and draw three that will be layed off.
Tough Decisions must be made.
11:56 pm est 

Re; FBI Investigaton?

Get a grip. Some loud mouth jerk decided to entice the cops, gets
arrested, takes it to court and loses and then you think the FBI is
investigating? You need help.
11:54 pm est 

Friday, January 16, 2009

There's Out of There

The latest the white house staff can be in the White House for their
last day or last anything is tonight at 9p.m. Most have already left
by five and all had to turn in their blackberrys, keys to the gym
(where they spent most of the last eight years) cell phones and keys
to their office. It is over and they are out of there.

Tomorrow the painters move in all traces of the Bushes will be
painted over. Bring in the ladders, buckets of paint and
disinfectants. It's as if Spring has arrived!

By Monday only 20 staff will be left at the White House  for last
minute details. It is over. And Bush is in Camp David and soon, so
soon, he will say his last farewell and fly away, not on Air Force
One, to Dallas.

It's been a long time in coming, but it is has finally happened. Say
Goodby, George. Say Goodby Dicky. Look to see you no more!
8:59 pm est 

School Board Election

Surely the thought has crossed many minds that the upcoming race is
the best opportunity to do what must be done. I would, if not for a
conflict of interest.
8:57 pm est 

FBI Investigaton?

Michael Rogovsky:

I wouldn't be knee-jerk in my support of the police on the Barry Scott matter.

I kid you not: my understanding is that the Feds are indeed looking
into this. Worrisome for our town if true; anyway, your phone call
and even my note are in vain, for the FBI rarely discloses ongoing
inquiries.

- Laughing Last
8:56 pm est 

Bunny Barrage

Is it time for me to re-post my bunny stew recipe?

Signed,

The Cook in Waiting...
8:12 pm est 

Re: Dear Black Bunny Gone Missing From the Cemetery

And thats exactly what he wants you to think. He's actually gone to
his winter white disguise and thus has "disappeared" from sight for
the winter. Keep an eye out for him. He's out there, peeking a look
at his chasers in the dog park!
8:11 pm est 

MacMillan Pier and State Law

"Pursuant to 310 CMR 9.07(1), a city or town implementing
310 CMR 9.07 may not discriminate against any citizen of the
Commonwealth on the basis of residency, race, religion, sex, age,
disability, or other illegal distinction when granting annual permits
for the placement on a temporary basis moorings or other
bottom-anchored floats or rafts located within the territorial
jurisdiction of the municipality."
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Your sweet fiefdom on MacMillan Pier will come to an end.

Get ready for the next round..
6:58 pm est 

A Two-Tier Hiring System Would Make More Sense

Look around. Look closely. How many people are in town? How many
people need services now? Why don't we have some personnel hired as
year-round with many others as just seasonal. Do we need the trailers
filled with more employees than people they service? Do we need more
police than visitors in the winter? If we were realistic, we would
have a small year-round town employee base and then seasonal
employees who are hired May to September. With 800 people, how many
trailer employees do we really need? Someone should be able to get a
realistic count and then start to act accordingly.

Since town employees and the BOS don't want to regionalize, then just
cut the positions to reflect true needs and services.
6:55 pm est 

Two Positions For School Committee

There will be two available positions for school committe. It seems
that Therese Nelson and Shannon Patrick have their terms up. But can
Terese Nelson run again? Hasn't she already had three terms and three
strikes and you're out. Am I right?
6:53 pm est 

Tough Times Dictate Tough Decisions

When Times are Good, Assitants Can be Hired BUt...
when times are not so good, we don't need assistants. We don't need
an assitant clerk. We lived without on for many years. We don't need
an assistant town manager. We lived without one for many years. We
didn't need a building inspector. We lived without one for many years.

and we don't need to reclassify anyone in this financial environment
and increase their salary and grade. Please look outside the trailers.

This is the time to freeze all salaries. Put a hold on so-called
adjustments or automatic pay increases for administrators. It's time
to sacrifice or lose your position. That is life today and it will
get worse before it gets better.
6:52 pm est 

If Cuts Have to be Made, Cuts Have to Be Made

Nantucket has cut its departments 10% across the board and they will
be laying off seventeen people. That's just the reality of these
extremely hard times.

If the recreation department has to be cut and opened only on a
volunteer basis, then that must be done. If we have to make cuts in
other departments that are not essential for the town to operate,
then that is what we must do.

We are not an island. We are swimming in tough, difficult
life-threatening waters. We must cut our losses instead of sticking
our collective heads in the sand.

Make the cuts and let's see where we are next year. But make the
cuts. Forget the tears, forget the theatrics. Businesses are closing.
Cities are in bankruptcy. Let the town make the necessary cuts now.
6:49 pm est 

Dear Black Bunny Gone Missing From the Cemetery

That's because the little guy who engaged many of us is in bunny
heaven. sorry to be the bearer of sad news.
6:47 pm est 

Brace Yourselves!

Now the town needs a new DPW truck after the new one just caught
fire! When does it stop?????
6:20 pm est 

Re: Black Bunny Missing

Slogging through all the outrage, misspellings and sage
advice on this blog, Id like to focus on a critical issue for a
moment: has dear black bunny gone missing from the cemetery? If so,
this is not a happy day. If you know,please post.
6:15 pm est 

Webmaster Comment

Webmaster Comment: Yesterday some time between 8:00pm and 11:00pm the web site capability failed relative to being able to post "Shout Out" Comments or to E-mail MYPACC using the "Contact Us" page. It appears that the problem has been solved. We have been working with the Host site to clear-up the problem.

They have not provided the reason for the failure, which only affected the posting of comments. All other functions in the system worked.

We apologize for any inconvenience that may have been created.

Thank you for your patience.
5:56 pm est 

Hey michael!

As of last night, all the departments have weighed in. we are $780,000 over budget!!!!! this is very very bad. they are talking about shutting down entire departments like the recreation department. there is NO money for maintenance of equipment. that's why the pier corp. just can't spend as they please.

5:44 pm est 

Thursday, January 15, 2009

I'm More Than A Little Concerned

That so few on the BOS seem to the grasp mathematical significance of
what each department is doing. So few seem to know basic math. And
what bothers me the most? That they have few math courses in grammar
school.
7:49 pm est 

Yes, Humility Instead of Smirking Would do Us All Well, Especially the Chair

Somehow Couture believes she is the chair but like Bush doesn't have
to take responsibility for what happens on her watch. But guess what?
It is your watch and you are responsible for the direction, the cuts
made or not made and the end result of the FY 2010 budget. You are
not just there to sit high-minded in the middle and be the Chair. You
must act as Chair and bear all and full responsibility. Yes, I know.
You think you are above this. But, my dear little one, you are not.
That is both the joy and the pain of leadership. Let's hope you come
to understand this soon--for everyone's sake.
7:45 pm est 

Dear Bonnie

I don't believe people are trying to hurt others on this blog. I do
believe that people are concerned about finances, are worried about
higher taxes and know they cannot continue to fund the excessive
demands of the town's budget. Times are tough. Times are extremely
difficult and if town employees have to be cut or their salaries
frozen, then that has to happen. It is not that people don't care.
They do and they know that life as it was cannot be life as it is.
7:43 pm est 

Waiting For the Fat Lady

What is Mikey doing, talking with the FBI? Has he lost his
mind, will Bonnie & Sandy get Gurten to resign? Can Candace bring
stability to the pier? Will Astrid finally get revenge on the town?
Will the CPC block the funds for townhall and give it all to Ted
Malone? Tune in tomorrow! Same bat time! Same bat channel!
6:07 pm est 

What is the Solution

"There was no mandate from the top to cut departmental
budgets. Heads of department came in with ideal budgets in a fiscally
disastrous times. Sharon Lynn and the BOS should have given the
mandate early and often: reduce your budgets by 10% and then some.

Now they have $900,000 deficit. And they have cut $25,000. WOW!
They're doing some hard work! This is exactly where they were last
year.A $900,000 deficit and they danced around this until everything
was put as overrides. And what will they do when Deval Patrick
tonight announces a 10% cut for local aid? What if now we have an
additional$350,000 deficit? Add that to the overrides as well."
-----------------------------------------------------------

How do you know there was no mandate from the top? How would you have
them reduce the budget? Should we close the library and disband the
council on aging to save the money? Close the dump two days a week?
Everything has repercussions...it would be a very different
town...what is the solution? They are all hard questions.
6:04 pm est 

Good For Michael!

Someone stating that the FBI is investigating corruption
and lies in our government is outrageous slander. Good for Michael
for standing up for the honor of our appointed town officials.

How stupid of someone to suggest he call town hall and ask the town
manager if she is condoning corruption in high places.

Please stop your juvenile and vengeful attacks on town officials--as
well as against people who post here with something serious to say.

You are impotent as well as ineffectual and only embarrass yourself.
You are part of the problem--not part of the solution.
6:01 pm est 

Wake Up!

I believe people need to wake up. We are in deep trouble in
our town and all over the US. Get your facts straight before you go
to slander people. Try working all night , when services are needed.
Maybe you should plow your own roads...see what it feels like... I
beleve we should thank any and all service working people. Got
something to say instead of what is wrong try more postive
influences. This blog hurts individuals and the blog should have
facts to back up confictions. Stop being afraid to sign your name.

Get the facts straight
Bonnie

2:51 pm est 

Viewing the Monday BOS Meeting

.. I come away with mixed feelings, like a hangover after a not so fun party!
I am impressed with the work Mr. John Goodrich did with Asst. Town
Manager David Gardner and the other Boards involved with the new
Growth Management bylaw.  They seemed to have addressed all the
sections of water usage, streamlined and updated the needs of the
Town. I will be voting yes to this bylaw.

I have reservations with our Licensing dept.  They appear to not
understand what a year round license is, nor the time frame of a
seasonal license.  This is serious and needs to be addressed (i.e.
Clem/Ursie & Victor's)

Ms. Nagle brought up an interesting statistic regarding who leases
certain slips in the conditions of wealth and residency. (Brava
Candace) One word to Pier Corp., Shameful.

However, with this came the unfortunate display of lack of leadership
by our Madame Chair, the Couturegist.  She demonstrated her self will
and wishes and was backed by Anderson.  I applaud Selectman Knight
for wishing to appoint D. Bedard to the post of liaison to PPPC at
the meeting, showing pro-action.

The DPW and the next phase of sewer development is another example of
how this Town fails governing itself.  I was in total agreement with
Mary Jo about this issue.  It makes my blood boil whenever I see
David Guertin approach the microphone to speak on behalf of the DPW. 
What a waste of time and money.  No use getting my tires balanced and
rotated next year either!  More potholes to come.

It was almost an embarrassment to watch the Town Manager discuss with
the Board the moneys for CPA funds and the Town Hall renovations,
like it was a homeowner discussing fixing a broken window, so
matter-of-fact.

Thanks to Dr. Murray for being pro-active with the fireworks.  Left
to the BoS, this issue would not be addressed until the day before
Town Meeting.  They dropped the ball last year, remember? I do not
believe it was on their radar this year, also.

I am disappointed with a few of the members of the Board, and will
certainly be campaigning to get voters to vote the other way next
time.  With that, Michell if you are reading this, please avail
yourself with some needed humility while presiding over the meetings.

Thank you
2:48 pm est 

Re: Pier Cameras

What is Candace trying to hide,That she dose not want the
cameras to catch?
2:44 pm est 

"Rogovsky"

The new definition of a self important fool.

As in, that      just won't shut up... he sure is making a Rogovsky
of himself!
2:42 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

Isn't it funny how Mikey says he only blogs "to set the
record straight", then he takes it upon himself to call the FBI?

He just cannot stop making a fool of himself!
2:40 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

Michael just seems like he's full of a lot of hot air.
2:39 pm est 

The Way You Make Me Smile

Rattlesnake you are funny and made me smile with a John
Stewart like observation.
2:37 pm est 

Cruise Ships and TV Cameras

I spent the holiday on the largest cruise ship in the
world, freedom of the seas. there was an option for pre paid wine and
beer.

But this more about spending money for phantom criuse lines that won't
come here because we don't have 22 cameras that are being monitored
in the police station.

I have rented yachts in the carribean. people can t wait to leave
designated cruise ports like st. thomas to sail to the charming and
quaint bvi's.

We don t need the cameras and we certainly shouldn t be spending the
money if its about protecting pier tenants most of whom don t live in
ptown and with little crime on the pier.
2:36 pm est 

Less is More

Why did the town accept bids for the expensive revovation
of Firehouse #2 yesterday. If that project still makes sense it makes
no sense to have construction continuing into May and June. Why
didn't they start it in November?

Less is more when it comes to government. Can't anyone figure that out?

I didn't think so.
2:33 pm est 

Wishy-Washy BOS

There was no mandate from the top to cut departmental budgets. Heads
of department came in with ideal budgets in a fiscally disastrous
times. Sharon Lynn and the BOS should have given the mandate early
and often: reduce your budgets by 10% and then some.

Now they have $900,000 deficit. And they have cut $25,000. WOW! They
are doing some hard work! This is exactly where they were last year.
A $900,000 deficit and they danced around this until everything was
put as overrides. And what will they do when Deval Patrick tonight
announces a 10% cut for local aid? What if now we have an additional
$350,000 deficit? Add that to the overrides as well.

I am not impressed with the BOS' financial decisions or their fiscal
analysis. Seems a course in statistics and financial analysis would
help each and everyone of them and help Sharon Lynn. Make the hard
decisions and stop dancing around the truth. Echoes of last year will
not help us this year. Please, do something drastic.
2:31 pm est 

Finally Action Seems to Been Taken

Seems the Talk of Victor's problems Has Finally Led to the
Licensing Board Doing Something
Now they are talking about clear rules between seasonal and
year-round licenses. And we see that issues of enforcement have been
a confusing problem for them. It shouldn't be. Licensing agent should
be enforcing and I think it also involves the Health Inspector as
well. They should be out observing and enforcing. Otherwise, why have
rules. All from the same department, we also have no enforcement of
historic district rules and few building department rules.

Where's the enforcement? Who's doing anything about rules on the
books and what is happening on the street? Seems very little.

Let's hope at least licenses are now enforced more than they were
before. And Victor's started this conversation and let's hope this
restaurant is included in what happens--and any other establishment
abrogating the rules.
2:27 pm est 

Serious What?

This blog is just so funny, at first I thought it was serious!
9:28 am est 

Citizens Must Get Involved

What demands are being put on town department heads to
reduce the budget--and what are the "true" consequences of these
reductions? Be informed, be pro active, be an active citizen.
9:22 am est 

Low Income Housing Excluded From Tax Increases

The money that I would have spent on fuel will be going to
pay my taxes instead. Too bad our tax bill, waste water treatment
bill and water bill doesn't arrive the day before Town meeting starts.

Oh I forgot--homeowners who own low income housing don't get their
taxes raised. And they get all kinds of subsidies. No wonder people
want to spend $7M on new roads and buy Cabral's wharf.
9:20 am est 

Just in Time

"WASHINGTON  More than 2.3 million American homeowners faced
foreclosure proceedings last year, an 81 percent increase from 2007,
with the worst yet to come as consumers grapple with layoffs,
shrinking investment portfolios and falling home prices."
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90 Shank Painter Rd. will be ready just in time...and Ted Malone's
affordable housing building on 83 Shank Painter Rd and his housing
project on Race Road.
9:17 am est 

Provincetown Should Follow State Government's Lead

"I just read this weeks Provincetown Banner.  I am so sick
to death of Michael Rogavsky's one note charge...take the money from
the CPC and fix town hall!  As if doing so would somehow save the
town from the very complicated finacial situation we are in."
-------------------------------------------------------------

I was talking with a guy who  was complaining about his landlady on a
fixed income having to raise his rent. I mentioned his taxes--what
taxes he replied.

Putting this money towards town hall is one step.

Speaker of the house said today that towns can expect a ten percent
reduction in funds from the state.

Sal Di Maisi also wants to pass legislation so even union workers are
on the state health plan.

Mayor Menino is calling department heads and asking them to support a
wage freeze.

The Boston Globe says that surplus properties should be sold...and
Provincetown needs to follow this lead.

View from the monument.
9:15 am est 

Key West is Hardly Ruined..........

It may not be ruined, maybe it's a great cruise ship destination. 
But, the charming, quirky town it once was no longer exists.  Don't
let cruise ships do that to Provincetown.
9:12 am est 

Point of Information

Cruise ships DO NOT GIVE OUT FREE
ALCOHOL.   Yes, the food is free, but when tourists leave the ship,
they do visit the bars for a drink.   So dont be so fast saying they
ONLY SHOP.  Get your facts right before you make a fool of yourself. 
Oh, you already have.

A LARGE STONE ON THE BEACH
9:11 am est 

CPA Funds, How Much and What For

Just watched the selectmen talk about getting CPA funds for
townhall, if I was on that board I would not want to give 2 Million
dollars to anyone without knowing what part of the money would be
spent for what!  The town manager had no idea where exactly the money
would be spent on! So they are going to ask for the most they can get
for both phases one & two! Lets hope the CPA board watches every cent
of this job!
9:10 am est 

What's Town Government Doing?

The editorial in the Boston Globe is admonishing the state
into selling surplus land; to have its retirees go on medicare
insurance rather than state insurance and a number of other things to
cut the budget--not just raise taxes on taxpayers.

Is Town government pursuing such action?
9:07 am est 

Another View From the Monument.

The Pier corp is being scrutinized and will have to make
changes--such as in the program they use.

The school committee, which wouldn't even meet with the board of
selectmen last year, has been scrutinized by the steering committee
and the school will have to make changes.

90 Shank Painter Rd will be developed.

Town Hall is going to be renovated.

The dog Park was built using private funds.

Residents connected to the waste water treatment plant will see a
$100 decrease in their bill--much too little--but something.

Michael, Candace, and Astrid are still involved citizens--and do
attend selectmen's meetings when they can.
And, we are only in to the first few weeks of the New Year.

Another View From the Monument.
9:05 am est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky (Here I Come to Save the Day)

"Basically if the poster was just creating a stir and had
never actually been approached by the FBI, you have single handedly
involved the Federal Bureau of Investigation into something that may
very well not even exist.  By believing something that could have
been just gossip or here-say, you have now wasted federal money and
FBI manpower."
-------------------------------------------------------------

I'm sure the FBI Agent I talked to will just make some phone calls.
This person claims to be interviewed by the FBI--so it will be easy
for the agent I called to look into it.

This is what was posted-and you just call it gossip?:
"I was approached by the FBI who are now investigating the case with
the DJ from last year. Seems there is more corruption, hate and lies
in this town--coming from our police force and Town Manager--than
anyone has posted here."

Slandering the Town Manger and the Chief of police on here by saying
this is just hateful in my eyes and we should stand up for their
honor.

Michael Rogovsky
9:03 am est 

BOS Meeting Uninspiring

I have just spent close to 5 hours listening to a bunch of
idiots, How inspiring. I better listen to Obermann. Better yet, I'll
switch to the f word, Fox.
8:58 am est 

HOW Important is the CPC Funds to the Selectmen?

I just finised a grulling 5 1/2 hour Selectmen's meeting on the
TV. Gran Ma is most concerned about the flex bus.
8:57 am est 

Compete for the Tourist Trade?

Please support your position with facts.

Read the paper. This is about expensive but unneeded security.

There continues to be no factual basis for spending $23,000 for 22
cameras.

  Recently after george byrant who complained  lightbulbs weren't
being changed and selectman couture found herself in the dark down
there, the pier corp was  directed to change the bulbs.
Very little is done on a timely basis which often has financial
consequences (for us).
The level of incompetence and poor maintenance of the pier is
stunning. It will soon be our problem because of it.

Get ready for the PPPC to hit us up for over $1,000,000 to replace
the floating docks for the third time in just a few years. They will
be asking the selectmen for money. I fully support true fishermen who
catch fish and or trap lobsters and sell them for a living but there
is rampant violation of the lease agreement with the town as to whom
can get a sudsidized slip.  I want to know why. All these sweet deals
on the pier can t be one sided.
Taxpayers who have been footing the pier's debt should know why too. 
I have asked the BOS for a full and impartial investigation.

candace nagle
8:54 am est 

The Big Debate

The most important debate at the BOS meeting this past Monday is
"what is a liaison? " What about economics?

Rattlesnake
8:51 am est 

To: Mr. Rogovsky

STOP IT !!!

JUST STOP IT, YOUR MAKING A FOOL OF YOURSELF !!!!

STOP IT !!!
8:50 am est 

Uh, This Sounds Pretty Ruined to Me:

"The ships disgorge a few thousand tourist who shop at The Gap,
Coach, Banana Republic, Express and a few other national retailers
who have squeezed out the local merchants."

Having never visited Key West, I'll give the poster the benefit of
the doubt. One more reason to count our blessings!

-Laughing Last
8:49 am est 

Eco/ Green Cruises Are the Answser

Get the smaller ships that draw special interests. the Arts, Marine
and even the gays/ Lesbians. Crossing the Atlantic cross dressers l
ine. Specialize.
8:48 am est 

Re: Department Corruption

"Seems there is more corruption, hate and
lies in this town--coming from our police force and Town
Manager--than anyone has posted here."
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Just want a put an end to these kinds of insults on hard working town
officials.

Michael Rogovsky
8:46 am est 

Re: Michael and the FBI? (Here I Come to Save the Day!)

"I too am tired of these attacks on hardworking Town officials-lets
find out the truth."
8:43 am est 

Key West is Hardly Ruined..........

.......and you can even find a hotel
room that is clean,affordable and doesnt have to import laborers to
service the facility.Oh and did I mention they aren't 44 million in
debt and their infrastructure falling apart.Provincetown has it's own
charm that is unique but it needs to compete for the tourist trade or
they just will go elsewhere.

Don;t miss the boat!!!
12:21 am est 

Wednesday, January 14, 2009

Cruise Ships Will Ruin P-Town!

When Key West developed a cruise ship facility it was successful in "
Mallifying" Key West.  The north end of the island now resembles any
mall in suburban America, and has lost all the charm that was the
hallmark of Key West.

The ships disgorge a few thousand tourist who shop at The Gap, Coach,
Banana Republic, Express and a few other national retailers who have
squeezed out the local merchants.  They spend little money at the
bars and restaurants, because they get that for free on board.

On top of that, Key West has access to the Miami/Ft Lauderdale cruise
traffic that P-Town is lacking.

Occasional cruise ships calling on P-Town can provide valuable
exposure to tourists who would otherwise never know P-Town, and
maybe, if we are lucky, a little cash spread along Commercial Street. 
However, it is not an industry worth investing any time, energy, or
capital to develop.

Since the cruise ships have come to Key West, the resort has been ruined.
10:43 pm est 

To: One Reporter's Opinion

I couldn't agree with you more. I have spent five winters in key west
and subscribe to the local paper, the citizen.  Very few benefit
(like the conch train buisness owned by one guy) from the cruise
ships and  they tax the infrastructure.

But just as important, the PPPC can 't name one criuse line that
would like to come here but won't
because we aren't a designated cruise port.  There is neglible crime
on the pier as evidenced by the 2007 police report in the town annual
report ( i'm getting the 2008 crime stats on the pier) to warrant
this expense let alone the costs of servicing all these cameras.

A really big part of the problem is  the directors ALWAYS defer to
managment and management's recommendation.

If I had a dollar for everytime ''what do you think'  was said,  it
would have made a dent into paying for phase 1.

candace nagle
10:40 pm est 

F.B.I.

Ya, I contacted the FBI too.  We had a long talk and they are going to
investigate the case of the missing black rabbit from the cemetary. 
Provincetown is going to keep them very busy.
10:38 pm est 

Michael and the FBI? (Here I Come to Save the Day!)

Michael, why didn't you just call the town manager, any selectman,
chief of police or even the Cape and Islands District Attorney to
verify the claim?

Basically if the poster was just creating a stir and had never
actually been approached by the FBI, you have singlehandedly involved
the Federal Bureau of Investigation into something that may very well
not even exist.  By believing something that could have been just
gossip or here-say, you have now wasted federal money and FBI
manpower.

Unbelievable, what's scary is that you honestly feel you help the
town.  Please, stop being our savior.

I've heard you speak, I've read your writing and I politely ask that
you stop calling the FBI, the DOE or anyone else.  If anyone wants to
mediate the town's problems with the powers that be, i'd like someone
else to do it.
10:37 pm est 

Agree -

Cruise Ships bad for Provincetown, it will destroy
the character/culture of the town, much as it has Key West.
10:34 pm est 

Re: FYI: FBI!

Gimme a break. The FBI? Gimme a break.
8:55 pm est 

Re: No to Cruise Ships


"One only needs to travel to Key West to see what a beautiful port and
harborside looks like.And Mallory Square, we should be so lucky
someday to have such a nice facility."
-------------------------------------------------------

I would beg to differ. The cruise ships are viewed as a scourge by
the Conchs in Key West. The massive towering ships actually block the
legendary sunset at Mallory Square. The passengers are directed to
non-locally owned businesses via coupons and promotions on board the
ship. You have masses of asses clogging the streets and they do not
spend in local businesses, they do not even eat on the island as
everything is included on board.

I have been around here for about 25 years. Does anybody remember the
1st cruise ship to come to town when we got all dressed up and opened
our shops early only to witness a fleet of motor coaches waiting at
the pier to wisk the passengers off for a drive by of the Kennedy
compound?

Like in Key West, the gay cruises that stay in port overnight or at
least until late in the night are the only cruise ships that really
leave some dough in Town.

One Reporter's Opinion
8:54 pm est 

FYI: FBI!

"I was approached by the FBI who are now investigating the case
withthe DJ from last year. Seems there is more corruption, hate and
liesin this town--coming from our police force and Town
Manager--thananyone has posted here.
How proud those involved must be! That DJ is appealing to the
statefor help, since (as I have experienced) our legal system on the
capeunder DA O'Keefe is pretty disgusting.

I told them to google 'Provincetown hate' and the answers are
allthere. I guess there was another incident involving the police and
agay couple in September that might result in a lawsuit.
When will we ever learn from our past mistakes"
--------------------------------------------------------

I called the FBI and talked with the Duty Agent to ask him about this
posting. His request to me was to send this to him so he could look
into these allegations.

Michael Rogovsky
8:52 pm est 

Good Work PEBBLE

When you hit a nerve, you are on to something!

Keep stubbing toes......!!
8:50 pm est 

Re: Pier Corporation and TV Cameras

"Are you not paying attention!There is no local match
required.  This is not a
grant!

? Shoot 1st and Ask ?'s later"
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"Provincetown Banner Jan 15 2008:

this application is based on a proposal that would involve
22 cameras and a total cost of $92,000--$68,000 from Homeland
Security and a $23,000 local match that would be shared by the Pier
Corp.and police."

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Shared by the Pier Corp and police is a euphemism for us footing the bill.

No sir, you are not paying attention or are trying to deceive the public.

Never Caught a Fish
Never Sold a Fish
8:49 pm est 

Re: Shank Painter Big Hole

"See the big hole on Shank Painter? Instead of using the
grant money designated to hire professionals with heavy equipment to
dig the hole, she DOUBLED the cost by using favoritism and kickbacks
disguised as OVERTIME. She has been running the show this way for a
long time..."Deputy" Director Sandra Turner controls it all with the
full
blessing of David Gurtin...David's too busy perfecting his tan and
his personal "ART of SARCASM" when answering any question posed by
anyone including the Selectman."
------------------------------------------------------------

Months ago I called Ms. Sandra Turner and was told the money for the
work on Shank Painter Rd was from a grant.

Don't make accusations without facts. You sound like a disgruntled
individual. What are your facts that she doubled the cost by using
favoritism and kickbacks disguised as overtime? Michael Rogovsky
8:43 pm est 

What is the Answer?

"...And years prior to that, the BOS let Bergman borrow and borrow
burdening this town with years of debt which we are now facing. 
Where was the leadership then?"  
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How did Bergman get away with piling on this debt?
8:41 pm est 

Re: FYI: FBI!

"I was approached by the FBI who are now investigating the case with
the DJ from last year. Seems there is more corruption, hate and lies
in this town--coming from our police force and Town Manager--than
anyone has posted here.How proud those involved must be! That DJ is
appealing to the state for help, since (as I have experienced) our
legal system on the cape under DA O'Keefe is pretty disgusting.

I told them to google 'Provincetown hate' and the answers are
allthere. I guess there was another incident involving the police and
a gay couple in September that might result in a lawsuit.When will we
ever learn from our past mistakes?"
---------------------------------------------------------------

This deserves to be shot down

Michael Rogovsky
8:39 pm est 

Stop Wasting Our Money

In todays Banner: 'Pier Corp members look at the surveillance system
primarily as security for the piers tenants.'

2007 Annual Town Report

Arrest/Citation/Calls for Service Summary 2007

Boat-assistance 7

Boat-Complaints 7

Boat-Larceny Equipment 2

Boat-Missing Stolen 2

Boat-Recovered/Found 4

Boat Vandalism 0

Fire /Boat 1

Harbor Master/General 14

The boats missing were not stolen from the pier. They broke off their
moorings in bad weather.

Just two larceny complaints?

Do we really need to spend $23,000 in matching funds for a $93,000
grant for 22 cameras when we are faced with deep budget cuts and
overrides? This is a glaring example of another ill-thought out
capital expenditure by the Pier Corporation.


Candace Nagle
8:37 pm est 

We Get it Michael!

I just read this weeks Provincetown Banner.  I am so sick
to death of Michael Rogavsky's one note charge...take the money from
the CPC and fix town hall!  As if doing so would somehow save the
town from the very complicated finacial situation we are in.

It is obvious that Mr. Rogovsky has an issue with affordable houseing
and uses any opportunity to to try and stop/subvert any money from
going to it.

We get it Michael you hate spending money on affordable houseing,
however I for one, am tired of listening to you drone on about it!
8:36 pm est 

To the Blogger of Affordable Housing Money Should Be Spent Now...

If you wish to spend the 2 Million now, than I guess you want Ted
Malone to get all of it to build the Nelson Ave projects?????

Be Careful What U Wish 4 !!
8:30 pm est 

Today's Banner:

PPPC director george hitchcock:

Worries that any security grantsfrom the federal government
could somehow backfire and require the town to spend more money.
Custom Border Patrol is a subsidiary of Homeland Security.
Go to cbp.gov and see the expensive nightmare these other
knuckleheads are imposing on us.

There are over 100 federal regs that must be enforced.

The cost of repairing town hall will look like chump change compared
to the cost of homeland security
in Ptown
8:29 pm est 

RE: No to Cruise Ships

One only needs to travel to Key West to see what a beautiful port and
harborside looks like.And Mallory Square, we should be so lucky
someday to have such a nice facility.Homeland security, yes it's a
federal program, brings more money into the town and customs only
applies to ships that have left the country and are re-entering.Let's
keep the issues on this website to reality and not just people making
up one's that don,t exist.
12:39 pm est 

FYI: FBI!

I was approached by the FBI who are now investigating the case with
the DJ from last year. Seems there is more corruption, hate and lies
in this town--coming from our police force and Town Manager--than
anyone has posted here.
How proud those involved must be! That DJ is appealing to the state
for help, since (as I have experienced) our legal system on the cape
under DA O'Keefe is pretty disgusting.

I told them to google 'Provincetown hate' and the answers are all
there. I guess there was another incident involving the police and a
gay couple in September that might result in a lawsuit.

When will we ever learn from our past mistakes?
10:02 am est 

To: The ONLY Pebble on the Beach

You must be a very small pebble and under MY LARGE ROCK on the beach. 
Of course I see ALL THE TIME snow plows during the day.  They do NOT only
plow at night for overtime.  Why are you looking for trouble.  I am a taxpayer,
a business owner, and have 2 homes, here in Ptown and FL.   The DPW
does a decent job.  Can they do better?  SURE.  Can my business do
better at times.  SURE.   And to question why there is so much
overtime, well look at all the plowing that has been done in this
very early and long winter we are having.  I think your pebble needs
to come up from being burried to far below the sand on the beach.

A LARGE STONE ON THE BEACH
10:00 am est 

Affordable Housing Money -

.......not restricted to interest as
everything so far has been paid directly out of the funds- is
available to the tune of almost $2.million - IT SHOULD BE SPENT NOW !

As far as what is potentially available thru historic for town hall
renovations - can't someone simply ask the cpc ?   You all seem to
have a lot of time on your hands - go to the meeting and ask.
9:58 am est 

Couturegeist?

We get it.  You hate Michelle.  If you're going to blame the budget
on BOS chairs, you should go back to Avellar and Andrews.  Look at
last year's Annual Town Meeting and the budget presented by MJ.  What
a mess with over rides and a budget process that could easily be
described as mismanaged (or unmanaged).  And years prior to that, the
BOS let Bergman borrow and borrow burdening this town with years of
debt which we are now facing.  Where was the leadership then?

The current BOS and Town Manager face decisions this town has never
seen before.  People are going to lose jobs.  Services are going to
be cut.  I wouldn't want to have to do what they are facing.  Maybe
we should be supporting them instead of slamming them.
9:55 am est 

True Cost of Pier TV Cameras

The initial cost is $23,OOO in local matching funds for a
$93,000 grant to buy a whopping 22 cameras. This will be just the
beginning of the albatross around our wallets with 100s of
regulations we will have to enforce and current and new homeland
standards we will have to maintain.

This is about paying for the ambition of one man and the accredition
he will get which adds to his resume. This is about trying to prove
something. but it has been and always will be o financial hardship to
all of us.
9:53 am est 

Town Department Mismanagement and Corruption

It is shocking. If there has been no mandate from the top,
from Sharon Lynn herself to each department, to cut their budget by
10%, then that would be quite irresponsible. The FY2010 budget should
be significantly cut and reduced--surely not increased.

Yes, ALL budgets from ALL departments were submitted with INCREASES. 
That's the way the GAME is played in Sharon's regime. You
request/INFLATE for as much as you WANT and then each department head
gets to look like a hero as they cut a little bit here and protect a
lot there...this way they protect the FAT and leave the taxpayer to
pay the overrides.

Personally, I think an override for trash collection is nothing less
than  Taxpayer BLACKMAIL.

We all know the School costs over 4 million...Jessica Waaaa
and the school board have made it VERY clear that they will do
ANYTHING to protect the status quo. Remember Jessica got full
approval from BOS and Fincom to give two part time secretarys 25 and
30 THOUSAND DOLLAR RAISES last year...I can't wait to see what they
try this year.

On the subject of where Tax dollars go...did you ever wonder why you
almost NEVER see a town snow plow working during daylight hours???
That's because of the all the $$$ paid in OVERTIME,,,

The DPW is the ONLY department that pays OVERTIME and they pay a
lot...its called kickbacks and payoffs...ONE Woman controls millions
with NO OVERSIGHT...no checks and balances..

She's the woman responsable for the OVER RIDES because she spends her
budget paying time and a half, and sometimes double time, to a select
few over, and over again while those guys you see picking up your
trash NEVER get the opportunity because they are actually working.

See the big hole on Shank Painter? Instead of using the grant money
designated to hire professionals with heavy equipmentt to dig the
hole, she DOUBLED the cost by using favortism and kickbacks disguised
as OVERTME. She has been running the show this way for a long time...
"Deputy" Director Sandra Turner controls it all with the full
blessing of David Gurtin...David's too busy prefecting his tan and
his personal "ART of SARCASM" when answering any question posed by
anyone including the Selectman.

Whoever mentioned a NEST of VIPERS had it right and it lives in the
DPW dept on Alden ST...I can't resist pointing out the very fine
retaining wall and new blacktop at that building....Why is it that
the cleanest, best maintained town building is the one housing DPW?
Take a look at the new library, only 3 years old and filthy dirty and
not just the disgusting bathrooms....just poorly maintained like all
town buildings except Alden St.

Bottom line...I do not believe the Taxpayer should have to pay for
the corruption and poor managment that exists in this town department.
I incourage everyone to ASK to see the Proposed FY10 Budget...It is
your RIGHT...EXERCISE it..

I remain,

The ONLY Pebble on the Beach
11:47 pm est 

If the FY2010 Budget Increases Over FY2009:

Maybe We Have Our Own Couturegeist!

As Chair of the BOS. what happens to the budget and how it is handled
rests with the responsibility of this chair. If the FY2010 budget
increases over last year, then this chair is incompetent and is
unable to lead. HOlding a position of chair demands more than putting
one's tulip on a chair and sitting there, smirking. If the FY2010
budget contains increases, new positions, pay adjustments for top
administrators, and no freeze on raises, then the responsibility
rests with one person: Michelle Couture. She is the captain of this
ship and it turns out she is at the helm of the Titanic, she is
responsible.

And if she commands this ship into the life-threatening iceberg, then
we have our own Couturegeist and our own tragic destination.
11:37 pm est 

In Response to US Border Patrol

Are you not paying attention!  This is a federal program not a local
or state one.  Your tax dollars are all ready paying for this at the
federal level.  There is no local match required.  This is not a
grant!

? Shoot 1st and Ask ?'s later
11:35 pm est 

In regards to the Following:

"I have a question about the following statement from a previous blogger?

Provincetown a City...........Puhleeze!

Between the town union and the work during the
summer, collect unemployment during the winter ideas most of all
y'all have, it's no wonder the place is in a shambles. Why do you
think you have the right to live here? If I wanted to move to Belmont
or Newton, no one would care if I could afford the cost of real
estate there...so why should you think you deserve or have the right
to live here?"
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I live here because it is my home.  I work here, pay taxes here and
spend most of my money here at local restaurants and shops and the
local grocery stores; FarLand, Angel Food, B-Natural Health, etc.  I
make ends meet and love my home and town.
What are you doing to help out? Complaining about unemployment from
workers who live here and have seasonal jobs, but DO NOT go to Ft.
Lauderdale or New Orleans like you? ( all'ya'all )
You come in the summer months to make your $$$ and milk the Mass
Health Insurance Co. and then leave in the winter for the sun and fun.
I have a right to live here because I pay my own way to live here.

signed,

Look at your own entitlement
11:33 pm est 

Here We Go Again.........

........OMG- mikey is getting ready for another pornographic/ erotic
art fair in nyc everyone!!!
ego a flame. self importance reign's supreme!
11:29 pm est 

NO To Cruise Ships In Harbor !!!

Think about it, I mean really think about it !
Do we want those 2-ton-tug boats with their debris and possible oil
slick engines in our beautiful port? NO
Do you think that the town's water and sewer could handle the
day-tripper population in high season? NO
What about crime? shoplifting? drugs?
What of the cost to police the pier? The town?
Security camera's? homeland security??? Give me a break!
Who makes the money?
Who oversee's the money?
Is it worth it? NO
If I wanted t live in a port of call, I would have moved to St. Thomas USVI
11:27 pm est 

Tuesday, January 13, 2009

Cut the Budget Now!

I also heard that depts are asking for increases in their
budgets... is this bizzaro world or what? Where the hell have you all
been living? Has anyone in town govt noticed that there is a major
financial issue across the country. Read the papers, listen to the
news, pay attention. Do not try to raise taxes and fee on all of us
workers making minimum wage. Cut the budget now!

JST
7:59 pm est 

Is This True:

Each Department is Requesting an Increase in
Their Budget over FY2009?

If it is, it is shocking. If there has been no mandate from the top,
from Sharon Lynn herself to each department, to cut their budget by
10%, then that would be quite irresponsible. The FY2010 budget should
be significantly cut and reduced--surely not increased.

What is the solution to balance the budget? Overrides and more
Overrides? Higher Taxes? Food Tax and Condo rental taxes too?

Something's wrong with this picture. If true, it is fiscally
irresponsible. It is wimpish and foolish. Again, if true.
6:23 pm est 

Re: CPA Funds Restriction

"As we know from town meeting a lot is already restricted to
affordable housing."
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As far as debt service, is that the restriction you are referring to?
6:21 pm est 

US Customs Border Patrol?!
This is what is means to be in the homeland security
(Customs Border Patrol) family as a designated cruise port:

CBP is one of the Department of Homeland Securitys largest and most
complex components, with a priority mission of keeping terrorists and
their weapons out of the U.S. It also has a responsibility for
securing and facilitating trade and travel while enforcing hundreds
of U.S. regulations, including immigration and drug laws.


How much is it going to cost us to enforce hundreds of their
regulations????????????

Cameras watching tourists? That will really enhance our share of
tourism. People will love to come here!
6:19 pm est 

That's Really Showing That We Are a Welcoming Harbor

Operators of private vessels should report arrival to: 207-532-2131
x255. Operators may be directed to report to a staffed location for
inspection.


Is this the kind of reputation provincetown wants with the
recreational boating tourism market? Let's not go to Provincetown and
have to get in a queue for inspections by homeland security!

Don't bring your recreational pot to ptown either!
6:17 pm est 

Re: Town Hall Restoration

I may not always agree with Michael or Astrid or other
writers on this blog, but I don't always write to agree or disagree
with every posting.  It's a blog and everyone is entitled to their
opinion.

In this case I do agree that it's time for the funds to go towards
town hall renovations.  We can only afford so much.
6:15 pm est 

I Attended Last Night's BOS Meeting

Below is the body of my e-letter sent to the CPC chair today:


Please approve the grant application that the Board of Selectmen will
be submitting requesting funds for the restoration of town hall.  All
Provincetown taxpayers will benefit during these difficult economic
times as we face budget cuts and overrides.


Yours in Good Government,

Candace Nagle
---------------------------------------------------
It's important to weigh in and let the CPC know your position whatever it is!
6:13 pm est 

Regarding: To: Astrid & Michael

"You may speak for you selves (sic), but
don't you think that sometimes you are wrong and that most people do
not agree with you?"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Au contraire, I think the vast majority of people who blog here agree
with Astrid & Michael. I don't know either one of them, and I may not
like them personally if I did, but I have to agree with 90% of what
they write. There is a blatant bent on the part of a couple of our
selectmen and the town manager to pervert the will of the voters, and
I'm happy that at least a couple people on this site have the bolas
to call them out on it AND sign their names.

And while I'm here, the majority of people who blog here are AGAINST
the out-of-control train of affordable housing, not for it, again
contrary to an earlier post about 'wanting to move on'. Just read the
past posts.

Furthermore I believe our current BOS are Bush-worthy in their
shortsightedness, their inability to adapt to change, and their
unwillingness to be leaders. They need to put their foot down to the
School Committee and not approve their budget unless there are
serious concessions to today's reality. Ms. Nelson claims that she's
taking the recent sub-committee's findings on the future of the
school system seriously, but not to expect any quick changes, and
tells us we're at least two years away from any actions. Can you say
'stalling for time'? And as far as the Nauset option being a 'wash'
after you do the math, what about the following years when the
student population in Provincetown continues to decline? Is it even
close to being a 'wash' in 2 years? In 5 years? In 10 years? I don't
think so.

And here's a novel idea: Let's not spend the money we don't have.
5:37 pm est 

Oh My Word !

After reading this past weeks blogs, I come away with the feeling
that there is more venom in Provincetown than in all the snake-pits
of the mountain towns.
I certainly am glad to be moving.
5:33 pm est 

TO M. R.

Michael,

Do you ever stop to consider that you may be the guilty party of
posting those erroneous unjust accusations on this blog?
Take a few days and look back from the start of your postings.
You flip flop and use reactionary language in your postings, which in
turn others who blog here are led to believe these egregious
statements of yours.
Please, stop playing devil's advocate.  I hardly think any of us left
who read this blog even take you seriously anymore.
5:32 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky, Astrid, Candace and Victor's

Granted Michael Rogovsky posts frequently, but yet he is always
willing to admit if his facts are incorrect or if he has changed his
opinion on any particular issue, that is rare in a forum such as this.
Kudos to Astrid and Candace for lighting their fires as well. They
have kept the issues close to them alive and action has been and will
continue to be taken.
None of this has been for personal gain, for vanity, just for the
greater good. You may not agree but you must respect their
committment and always done respectfully to all involved.

Still wondering as to the consequences of Victor's closing.
Ramifications? License in jeopardy? Unit for sale rendered as
affordable qualified?

E. Michael Richards
5:28 pm est 

Re: CPC Funds

Does any one actually know how much would be available for
cpc money this year ?

As we know from town meeting a lot is already restricted to
affordable housing.

CPC spend the affordable housing money !
5:26 pm est 

Re: Heat at the Former Town Hall

Could someone please explain to me why we are spending
approximately 7,000 dollars a month to heat a building that has no
windows or siding? Where is this money coming from? It should be the
responsability of the workers to supply their own heat.
5:25 pm est 

Re: Pier Corporation

Why does a boat that never goes out to sea, never been a
fishing boat and has live aboards in the summer be allowed to get a
half priced slip on an already subsidized slip?

A. Corruption
B. Bad Management
C. having a chip to call in when a bad light  is cast on your performance

Never Caught a Fish
Never Sold a Fish
5:24 pm est 

re: Michael Rogovsky- Several Thoughts

I hope that our good board of selectmen ask for CPC funds
for town hall.

I'm busy getting work ready to take to New York for an erotic art
exhibit opening Jan. 23

I got involved with the town when I and the other 600+ homeowners
were going to be charged the $800k hook up fee of Seashore Point--an
incredible miscarriage of justice--which didn't happen Luckily.

The School has its steering committee report. Welfleet won't fund a
teacher's position because there are only 8 students in the Class.

Provincetonw's Brd. of Slctm. hired a new Police Chief and they
should honor his budget--why would he want to get into a financial
struggle with them if it wasn't necessary? Don't you think he would
like to be a hero and cut the budget if he could? Obviously he needs
what he needs.

Folks should go out and eat in the restaurants that are open in town.
They are offering different special deals. And folks are saying that
they are great.

Happy New Year

Michael Rogovsky
5:22 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

Why did someone who went to the budget hearings tell me
that the selectmen are taking the budget to the bone--while others
here maintain that it is still riddled with fat?

At least I got people to stop talking about Victor's restaurant when
we have billions going to bail out an economy where nothing is being
made with this money--just debt which we have to pay.
There is going to be a reckoning.

This is free blog--I can write as much as I wish and say whatever I
want--you don't have to read it. Laughing last has a point and last
pebble on the beach has been working for the town for 30 years--is
that right? So tell us where all of the fat is..

Michael Rogovsky
5:12 pm est 

To: Astrid & Michael

You may speak for you selves, but
don't you think that sometimes you are wrong and that most people do
not agree with you?
1:33 am est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

I have a vision of Michael R. waking up every day with one
thought only,  "What Town Dept/Official I can bother today".
He then 'appears' at the chosen dept. and somehow manages to get ALL
THE TRUE FACTS on EVERYTHING!

He then takes all that TRUTH and races home to his pc to share it
here because he believes the rest of us NEED him to.
Michael, do you REALLY think a motorcycle is a wise choice for small
quiet town like this? Do you REALLY think that our Copshop is in
danger of a terrorist attack?

Do you REALLY believe that the School Supt. is telling you the truth
about ANYTHING from the number of students enrolled to the QUALITY of
Education?

Do you REALLY BELIEVE Sharon has asked her departments to make ANY
CUTS before submiting FY10 budgets?

If you can say YES to ANY of these questions I beg of you to stop
asking, no, demanding by your CONSTANT blogging that rest of us
believe any of this FOOLISHNESS! NO CUTS have been made yet!

Infact, ALL TOWN DEPARTMENTS have requested INCREASES...I repeat,
INCREASES in ALL departments over FY09...The PROCESS has begun. You
can see the proposed budget at town hall or the library.
Didn't anyone ever tell you to "Believe HALF of what you SEE and NONE
of what you HEAR???

What Candace has accomplished so far is great but it is just the tip
of the iceburg. It doesn't hold a candle to the corruption and
kickbacks just waiting to be uncovered in the DPW department.

Michael, please, restrain your self in the future. You will NEVER
convince me that the Police, School,and DPW are not already way OVER
FUNDED and OVER STAFFED.

So, do your homework and know of what you speak before your fingers
start walking,,,we will ALL be better for it...

I remain,

The ONLY Pebble on the Beach
1:31 am est 

From: Michael Rogovsky

"Michael Rogovsky...

While I appreciate your active interest and involvement in town
affairs (even though I often don't agree with your positions) perhaps
you could exercise a little humility. Maybe you should take a day or
two off and not post anything on this blog. The world won't end and
the town won't crumble. Take a few days to really think about your
positions and then come back hopefully with a little more clarity
andconsistency and a little less ego and sense ofself-importance. It
would be a nice break for all of us.8:15 pm est
Pier Corporation"
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I didn't wake up and say let fill the blog with my own posting; if I
didn't have to defend myself against unjust accusations--I wouldn't
be posting this much. It isn't about ego--it is about setting the
record straight.

I go on line and there is all of these erroneous accusations about
what I posted--which I never posted--so I have to defend myself and
set the record straight.
I never criticized the police dept or said the things that were
attributed to me.

Thanks for your interest--I don't need to get my ego boost here; here
is where I  post and receive the acrimony of people for stating how I
see things.

Do you really think that it is an ego boost to state that I feel the
children of Provincetown need a broader more challening school and
have people turn their backs on me at town meeting?

Michael Rogovsky
1:24 am est 

Re: Provincetown Police

This isn't a high crime neighborhood. The Provincetown
Police Department has been growing out of control for years and
spending out of control as well. The best thing this new chief could
do is to trim the fat. I'm not saying no police, that would be
rediculous. We don't need as many summer police, we don't need
motorcycles, we don't need more fancy toys. Enough is a enough. The
tax payers are done funding the foolishness. You have the right to
your opinion Michael (and in your case an opinion about anything and
everything) but I have the right to mine as well. Provincetown needs
to cut the budget all the way around. Let's start with the police
department, next stop Public Works!
1:21 am est 

To the Person Who Wrote to Michael Rogovsky...

While I appreciate your active interest and involvement in town
affairs (even though I often don't agree with your positions) perhaps
you could exercise a little humility. Maybe you should take a day or
two off and not post anything on this blog. The world won't end and
the town won't crumble. Take a few days to really think about your
positions and then come back hopefully with a little more clarity and
consistency and a little less ego and sense of self-importance. It
would be a nice break for all of us.

8:15 pm estd
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  Maybe you could get off Michael and let him post whatever and
whenever he likes.
Who are you to ask him to take a break from posting? If you don't
like what you read on this blog then why keep reading? Anyone can
post whatever and whenever as long as they are not being nasty and
calling someone names. What's nice about this blog is that everyone
doesn't agree with each other and we are able to have dialogue. To
ask someone to stop posting their opinions is an absolutely ludicrous
request... Pugsly
1:20 am est 

To: Michael Rogovsky

THANKS for supporting the POLICE.....  Finally, a positive
comment...  THEY DESERVE IT !!!!!!
1:18 am est 

Monday, January 12, 2009

Re: Police Department Use of Hollow Bullets

Police are issued hollow point rounds so they dont go
through the target and injure a bystander. This is standard police
procedure nation wide. In this town it's a pretty much moot point and
hopefully stays that way.
8:17 pm est 

To Michael Rogovsky...

While I appreciate your active interest and involvement in town
affairs (even though I often don't agree with your positions) perhaps
you could exercise a little humility. Maybe you should take a day or
two off and not post anything on this blog. The world won't end and
the town won't crumble. Take a few days to really think about your
positions and then come back hopefully with a little more clarity and
consistency and a little less ego and sense of self-importance. It
would be a nice break for all of us.
8:15 pm est 

Pier Corporation

Isn't the Amanda Girl a derelict dragger on the pier owned
by someone who lives in NH or ME?
Why are we subsidizing a boat that has been stripped and is dead storage?
Why are all these sweet deals being cut on the pier?

How many boats are we subsidizing that should be called

NEVER CAUGHT A  FISH NEVER
NEVER SOLD A  FISH????
8:14 pm est 

Re: Astride Berg Open Letter

Excellent letter Astrid--keep up the good work..and may the
taxpayers get a break. Note: No one was called any names.

Michael Rogovsky
8:13 pm est 

Open Letter to the Board of Selectmen

Board of Selectmen
Provincetown, Massachusetts

Dear Members:

I request to have this letter read during the public statements of your meeting scheduled for Monday, January 12, 2009 at 6 p.m.

As you well know, I have been a proponent for the changes of the Community Preservation Act distribution percentages. Thank you for your sponsorship of Article 1 at the November Special Town Meeting.

For the past couple of months, I have been looking forward to attend a meeting which would include a discussion and a game plan concerning a request of funds for the restoration of Town Hall to be presented to the Community Preservation Committee.

The deadline to submit a proposal to the CPC is January 22, 2009. This has been a well advertised fact. I feel that I keep up to date with the Town'smeetings and agendas and yet I have not noticed any announcements of a Public Hearing or an Agenda in relationship to this issue from the Board ofSelectman's meetings.
    
At this point, I am requesting clarification. Have I missed something or has the Board decided to not submit a proposal to assist in the funding of Town Hall under the auspices of the Community Preservation Act? Is the Board going to stall on a decision and table it for next year?
 
If there is no request from the Board for Historic Preservation of Town Hall, where will the 70% distribution go to?

Respectfully,
Astrid Berg
10:55 am est 

Can I Just Say.......

Thanks to all those who made the Dog Park possible!  You did an
excellent job and I look forward to using it!
10:51 am est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

It seems that people don't know which postings are mine.
Attention, I, Michael Rogovsky, want to say this about Police
Officers: No one gets as much guff on their job as police officers.
They go to arrest someone and the person puts up a fight and the
police are accused of police brutality.

Think about it, from busboy to Bank President and every job in
between--no one gets the guff that the police do--(except
politicians--but that is because of their views.)

So, I'm 100% behind the police. I've stood up at town meeting and
spoken in the past on their behalf when Chief Meads had to stand
before us at town meeting and ask for a raise.

When I was at the comcast selectmen's meeting and sat next to a woman
and when I asked her what she did, she told me that she was a police
officer. I mentioned to her that I read that the Police Chief
believes that the police station is substandard and what does she
think about the building and she had some comments to make.

Go to the bank or some other serious building in town and ask the
employees what problems they have with the building and you will
discover that the physical building doesn't even enter their radar
because they just take it for granted because it is up to par.

I just want to make my position perfectly clear. I SUPPORT THE
POLICE. I had police men living in the three houses around my
house--I had the safest house in Provincetown.

Michael Rogovsky
10:50 am est 

Re Police Department

THIS IS THE POSTING THAT I WAS REFERRING TO: I'm repeating
it because this person has me confused with someone else who has
written negatively about the police department.
Please read; this is what was posted about me--but I NEVER SAID THESE THINGS!

"It is amazing how someone can suggest cutting the Police
Dept by reducing the force and budget. It is obvious you have no clue
as to what it takes to make sure the town is adequately covered so
when citizens like yourself need a Police Officer, a Police Officer
is there. You also don't have any idea the time it takes to do
areport and or make sure the paper work for court is done and ready.

Allow me to also reflect back on an issue brought up about the summer
officers where some felt all they did was talk to girls,etc, etc. Go
ahead and cut them and when a situation arises where those summer
cops normally would be, do me a favor and dial 1-800-YOU. The Police
are an easy
target until you need one."
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Attention: I'm going to copy what you said and send it to Police
Chief Jeff Jaran. This was not my intent.

I *never* wrote to reduce the force!! And about the budget--I
*want*the police budget supported.  I never wrote a word about summer
officers talking with girls. I actually want the town to terminate
the position of the housing specialist and give the money to the
police dept.

Actually. I sign my name to things. You are going to end up owing
mean apology because all I've done is support the police dept.

Michael Rogovsky
1:56 pm est
10:48 am est 

Re: Public Pier Corporation

"There should be a full review of the application
irregularities Ms.Nagle has sited. As we all know she is one for one
with the financial irreglarities she uncovered that turned out to be
criminal too."
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I totally agree. Why don't they have to answer to anyone? Even the
president has to go to Congress! Bravo to Ms. Nagel for continuing to
seek good government. Keep up your dogged investigation.
10:46 am est 

To: Webmaster

Mr Webmaster. Why is it alright to call one of our
selectmen FROGITUDE? But we can't call a certain bloger on here a
JERK?

Webmaster Comment: As a Selectman the subject individual
is in the public
arena and therefore is open to caricature; especially,
when the commercial business associated with the Select Person
features frogs. What is the meaning of FROGITUDE?

When one enters the world of politics, one is exposed to a greater level of
counter expression than the common citizen. It comes with the turf.

However, it would be inappropriate to apply the same criteria to a private citizen
expressing an opinion.

In either case it is totally unacceptable to refer to any poster as a "Jerk".

A question is begged, if the term Jerk" was not published, how would you know?
10:43 am est 

Over-budgeted Police

"We have a new chief of Police who continues the tradition of
bringing professionalism and dedication to our Police Department. As
a citizen, I DO NOT WANT the budget of the Provincetown Police
Headquarters to be reduced by one penny."

Michael Rogovsky, thanks again for sharing. But I couldn't disagree more.

The Police are equipped over and far above the record of crime in the
long memory of our town.

Ultimately, the argument for increasing the big money that is
funneled to them, year in and year out, is no less rickety than that
used to justify the "War on Terror": an outlandishly paranoid vision
of preventing nameless boogeymen from doing something really bad
before it actually happens.

For as long as I can remember, this argument has been used to but the
Provincetown Police whatever they want, price no object. That time
must come to an end, given the reality of public safety in a town
where few people lock their doors, and many don't even lock their
cars. That reality, BTW, now includes a recession that may well
become a depression.

Time to curb the toys and overtime pay for a department whose
clueless chief is on record in support of enforcing the law as HE
sees fit.

- Laughing Last

PS: Did you know that the Provincetown Police are equipped with
hollow-point bullets? You know, just like the police in New York,
Newark and Detroit?

Absurd!
10:20 am est 

Sunday, January 11, 2009

I See It Now!

Sharon Lynn with hammer in hand. Michele Frogitude Couture with a
grant to increase the number of frogs in Lily Pond. then Austin
brings in a screwdriver and the town is shovel ready for work. I see
the grants arriving now like the day a thousand frogs reel from the
sky. There is scientific proof that this did happen. Frogitude is
alive and well and all is well here in shovel-ready Provincetown. We
have nothing to fear. The grants will arrive and fall like frogs from
the sky.
9:45 pm est 

Pier Corporation Investigation

Fishermen that have two homes are not struggling. But we
are paying for them! to go boating To add insult to injury they don't
even have one of them here and pay taxes.
This should be fully investigated.
9:43 pm est 

Re: Pier Corporation Conflict of interest?

Maybe that 's  why the PPPC is not
releasing the insurance forms? Doesn't another one sell ferry
tickets? And why do PPPC emails to trap shed  tenants etc go out
promoting a certain   real estate firm?  MOST OF THAT BOARD  derives
income from the pier or they promote their businesses!
9:41 pm est 

Pier Corporation

There should be a full review of the application irregularities Ms.
Nagle has sited. As we all know she is one for one with the financial
irreglarities she uncovered that turned out to be criminal too.
9:40 pm est 

Waiting to Hear About Town hall Proposal Crafted by the BOS

could be like waiting for Godot. It is not an agenda item. The Proposal
has to be put together. The amount requested has to be assessed and
agreed upon. If it is not on the agenda for the BOS, and I surely
don't see the CPC request there, then you can assume that it may
never get presented and voted on. And if the BOS, under the
affordable housing leadership of Couture, waits until aftr January
22, then it is too late.

And Godot of course never appears.

Frankly, I"m tired of being treated as if our voices and concerns do
not count. If there is no proposal submitted by the BOS to the CPC,
then I believe we should recall Couture. As with Bush, what happens
now is under her leadership or managementship or bullship.
7:38 pm est 

Federal Stimulus Program

The Whitehouse is planning a 500 billion dollar stimulus program,
money to be given to municipalities for infrastructure improvements,
however it will be given only to programs that are "ready to go" and
not years away from license requirements, permits. etc etc.I would
suggest that Provincetown get ready. just in case, so we don;t miss
the boat.
7:36 pm est 

Re: Pier Corporation

Miss Nagle paid a fortune for that float on the pier.  If
things don't change she will never see a return on that investment. 
Can you say "Conflict of Interest"?  Don't think for an instant that
she has the taxpayers in mind, other than herself, in her attacks on
the pier.  Let her her rant at one of the last original occupations
of this town!  Can you say Karma!  If our town can help these
struggling individuals I say go for it.  Otherwise our pier will be
filled with Trust Fund Babies and their abuse of all of us hard
workers!
7:34 pm est 

Re: Dog Park

The mucho fun dog park wasn' t
funded with taxpayer money. it was all privately raised.
But you knew that Your pot shot missed!.

Congrats to the doggie park people on getting the park in the
national magazine Bark. Amazing how after less than 2 months open and
it is featured in the best doggie magazine!

By the way I live in affordable housing and have a dog.. So please
dogs are for all classes.
7:33 pm est 

Thinking

Some people Cant Understand Normal Thinking!
7:31 pm est 

Dog Park

Thousands upon thousands of unwanted animals, due to the
current economy, are thrown out with the trash daily.  Aren't we
lucky that the elite dog owners of our town have a place to frolic
and poop!  Talk about misguided use of funds!
6:57 pm est 

Looking at the Larger Picture

Are there many progressive business people here in town? 
It's been my experience that if you want to try to do something
positive in town, you'd better be prepared to do it all yourself. 
Everyone is more than willing to complain about a lack of business
certain times of the year, but don't lift a finger to do a dang thing
about it.

A few stores have permanently closed this winter as happens every
winter.  A few restaurants have closed in the past few years, a
couple who were expected to be open year-round have closed this year
to much discussion on this blog.  My question to business people who
closed their doors due to lack of business - What did you do or have
you done to promote Provincetown tourism?  Not just your business,
but the tourism in general in the town.  The question actually
applies to all business people, current or past.

It appears that most business owners drop in to town or are already
in town, do nothing (except possibly market their own business),
expect people to flock to their store, gallery, guest house or
restaurant and then complain when their business is slow.  Open and
they will come?  I don't think so.  You may have the greatest store,
gallery, guest house or restaurant in town, but if business people
don't do a better job marketing Provincetown no one is going to visit
your business.  And you can't just sit back and expect the Tourism
Office/VSB, Chamber and PBG to do it for you.

And by the way I am a business owner, but unfortunately know of VERY
few other business owners who look at the bigger picture and realize
we must all work together to promote Provincetown.
6:55 pm est 

CPA Funds For Town Hall Restoration

Here are the e-mail addresses of Michele Coutour, chair of
the board of selectmen and  and Vernon Porter, the secretary of the
Board of Selectmen.

mcouture at provincetown-ma dot gov,vporter at provincetown-ma dot gov
(This is not an actual link, only the address)

May all concerned citizen who are taxpayers write to the board and
express your desire that they be concerned with we taxpayers who live
in Provincetown Now. To be concerned with help us to pay for the town
hall renovation with the aid of the Community preservation Act funds
now.

This is our town, we are the citizens and there is no reason why this
money should go to a private developer of affordble housing who has
housing developments all over Provincetown.

We need this money to go towards the Police Department for Staff and
equipment; to go to the DPW and the water department and to pay the
salaries of the good people who work for the town.

Please submit a proposal to the CPC by January 22nd requesting that
the money that we taxpayers have put into this fund go towards the
renovation so town hall.

Respectfully,

Michael Rogovsky
6:49 pm est 

Re: Cruise Ships

"It is surely deep enough and is one of the largest harbors.
Cruise ships came here in the early 90's and at least ten came every
year.....
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That may have been the case then, but I don't think it is now.  I
remember the Family Cruise lines (Rosies?) had to anchor quite a ways
out because they couldn't get to the wharf - too shallow
6:46 pm est 

Attn: Michael

If you are referring to my reply to the below blog, then I wouldn't
wait around for an apology. You will have a better chance at winning
the lottery. What I replied to I don't believe targeted you,
espicially since this particular one had no name attached. So after
you read the blog I have copied and pasted for you, you think by
forwarding it to Chief Jaran will get you an apology, I would think
you will get a box of band aids so your wounds will heal while you
wait instead...Good luck and read on:


II Disagree With Michael.

The Police Department in Provincetown has gotten out of control. This
isn't a new thing, it's been happening for the past 8-10 years. We don't
need more officers, in fact we should be cutting the department and their
budget in half. Less is more. Our community doesn't need a big city police
force. Our community doesn't need motorcycle cops. Our community doesn't
need countless summer police officers on every corner just wasting payroll.

We need to start cutting back. We need to cut spending. The police
department is a great place to start.

I like this new Police Chief, I think he's a good man for the job
however it's time to give him a real task, tell him to cut the fat
and start working with 50% less. Tell him no more fancy fun toys like
motorcycles or new police cruisers. The end result would be exactly
the same.

1:40 pm est
6:44 pm est 

CPC Fund Request

Since when does the BOS need to have an agenda item to speak about or
debate an issue.  Show me where in the charter it says that
everything discussed at their meetings need be advertised.

The TM has been doing a Town Hall Update at every meeting.  Seems an
appropriate time for discussion.

Before you tear them a new one, maybe you should wait to see what they do.
6:41 pm est 

Letter to the Editor

We have a new chief of Police who continues the tradition of bringing
professionalism and dedication to our Police Department. As a
citizen, I DO NOT WANT the budget of the Provincetown Police
Headquarters to be reduced by one penny.

They are public servants and the guardians of the Town. As a taxpayer
I want our tax dollars to go to increased officers, fully equipped
squad cars and whatever else is deemed needed.

There is CPC money that can be allocated to fix town hall thus this
money that we would have spent on town hall can now be giving to help
the good people of Provincetown who are living here NOW. This money
can go to the police department first and then to the other
departments.

If the Board of Selectmen does not submit a proposal to the CPC
committee for the funds to go to help renovate town hall by the
January 22nd deadline; then they are sacrificing all of the other
budgets and burdening the taxpayers all to benefit a private
Affordable Housing developer.

Michael Rogovsky
6:40 pm est 

Stop Wasting Our Money

Three day fishing permit qualifies for taxpayer subsidized slip on
floating docks.

Tenant:

He lives in Brewster according to his application. The 2008 document
submitted to the Pier Corp.  to show he is a commercial fisherman: He
went on line to the Mass. Department of Fisheries and got a temporary
license issued March 28 2008. The document states this document
expires 10 days from the date of issue, except the 3 day Fishing
License. This document is valid through April 7 2008.

What a lucky guy to be subsidized by Provincetown taxpayers by only
paying the commercial fishermen rate of $2,139. A big savings of
$6,261 for this recreational boater each year compliments of
mismanagement on MacMillan Pier.

  His application and this form were the only information provided to
me by the Pier Corp.

Clearly, this guy is not making a living fishing.  But we are
underwriting his slip. Since last April,  I have uncovered four
subsidized private charter businesses, two who live out of state
being subsidized and one that had a three day fishing license and
lives in Brewster. Thats seven out of 38 (18%) tenants who should not
be getting Provincetown taxpayers monies for their slip usage.

Fishermens Wharf charges $2.50 per foot with a $100.00 minimum
nightly. They get $ $8400 for a twelve week season. There are many
recreational seasonal renters there.  Thats $43,827 each year that
Provincetown taxpayers are robbed of as charter rates on the west
side of MacMillan pier are paying $8500 as well as Hyannis and Bourne.

  My forensic analysis of this gross mismanagement at taxpayers
expense is far from over.

I will be submitting all these documents to town hall this week.

Candace Nagle
6:37 pm est 

Re: Muchas Gracias

Apology accepted, and I was just noticing some positive constuctive
blogs here and then one minute later...bammmmm...the negative anti
Pier, anti Provincetown banter...If you aren;t part of the
solution..you most definitely are part of the problem...If the shoe
fits,wear it.If any of you woke up and kicked your dog maybe you
should work on your anger management.
4:46 pm est 

Pier Cameras

Hey at least one of the new homeland security cameras will
record it which will nail the case for the plaintive!!!
4:44 pm est 

Cruise Lines Visiting Provincetown

Rigid standards of safety to be a port o call? don t tell
holland that our worm invested pilles could snap off and kill their
passengers due to a pile driving barge we bought a  couple of years
ago and never used.

Clearly Ptown is not ready for premier cruise lines to come here.
3:10 pm est 

Re: Don Diego

Correction: El Cid's (The Lord) full name was Don Rodrigo de Bivar. I
most humbly apologize for the mistake.

Of course you can Google the factsLaughing.

Muchas Gracias
2:50 pm est 

Unless It's Posted on the BOS Agenda......

......Town Hall proposal to the CPC won't happen. I also don't find any
listed proposal or even discussion of CPC funds and town hall
renovations.

What game are they playing? Wait until after January 22nd and then say:

"Oh, it was too late to post. We're so sorry Uncle Albert..."

"Too late. Can't do it this year. But wait, my fellow taxpayers,
we'll do it next year. Because we're committed, just slow in writing
grants."

"And by the way, Michele Couture has been busy working with Ted
Malone to support his request for $500,000 and he's been so sweet. He
deserves a half of million."

It's like a play with a tragic ending. Or maybe the script is already
written and the players already have their set lines. This is not how
government should work, even if it makes for good drama.
2:44 pm est 

Re: Muchas Gracias

Good for you Muchas for recognizing the lunacy of some of these
bloggers.First they complain that no one uses their names and then
when someone does they attack him and ridicule him, perhaps for
having an opinion that differs from theirs.Hmmm..If anyone would
kindly check the white pages on any website they will see that Mr.
Diego does actually exist.Hmmm.. I don;t think I'll sign this
blog,I'd hate to get mugged on my way to Adams Pharmacy...
2:42 pm est 

So You're Willing to Fund Town Hall with Higher Taxes

sounds like you're not a taxpayer and yet pretending to be one. Or
you're Michele Couture, a renter who insists on raising our taxes
since she never pays taxes. Great to have this woman pile on taxes
after taxes and tell us it's only fifty more here, and sixty more
there. When this woman doesn't pay a penny in taxes. She's a renter
with a skewed sense of priorities. And she is a shrill voice for
affordable housing.

No, if you listened carefully as the last town meeting, there is a
general consensus to use CPC monies for town hall repairs--and not
throw all the money in the hands of Ted Malone and his profit-making
group.
2:39 pm est 

Carnival Cuises? Hlland Cuises?

Why did the directors only bring up unruly drunks on the pier and
stolen lobsters? why doesn t diego get on the board? he is not as
ignorant as those knuckleheads now on the PPPC!
2:37 pm est 

I Think You are Wrong About Our Harbor

It is surely deep enough and is one of the largest harbors. Cruise
ships came here in the early 90's and at least ten came every year.
But then the town was never open for business when they were here. We
did not continue to foster their business and then they left. Reminds
me of what a former selectman, jane antonelli, --remember her?-- and
her ill-informed perspective on tall ships. There was a request for a
tall ship race here at the end of the 90's. And what was this
selectman's response? We don't need tall ships here in July or
August. Tell them to come in November if they want to come! And thus
the decisions, those horrendous and those that were good, made in the
past haunt us now.
2:27 pm est 

Re: Don Diego

Don Diego could also be a Non De guerre for Don Diego de Bivar,
who is known in history as "El Cid" of Spain. He is noted as having
driven the Moors from Spain.

But then again, it could be the  actual name of an individual living
in Provincetown, who happens not to be listed in the Google database.

We hit a low point in our existence when Google is the reference for
our reality.

Muchas Gracias
2:20 pm est 

Googled

If one can't be "GOOGLED" that translates to  they don't
exist.?.You've got to be kidding me...And just because one supports
and appreciates the improvements of MacMillan Wharf one must be a
mole for the Pier Committee?..I know from talking to other people in
town that there are many who support the Pier Committee and aren't
out to "GET THEM" I hope they continue to do their work with the goal
of making Provincetown a better place to travel and live.Just like
any other group or committee they aren't always 100% right on but at
least they're trying to build a better community and not tear it down.
2:09 pm est 

Re: Cruise Line

Holland America and Carnival are considering adding Cape Cod as a
destination which also includes Bar Harbor Maine amoung one of it's
ports of call.Whether or not Provincetown is able to land this
valuable account will depend on it's ability to compete with Hyannis
and Falmouth and being listed as a destination port; having the
accomodations would be a good start.Would a major airlines add
Provincetown to it's route if the airport can't accomodate their
fleet of planes?No this won't happen overnight but it definitely
won't happen at all if Provincetown doesn't make the necessary
improvements to the Pier.BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME!!

Donald Diego.
2:08 pm est 

Correct Me if I'm Wrong,......

.....but as far as I know cruise ships
don't come to Provincetown because our harbor is not deep enough. 
They REALLY have to want to come here if they must anchor out in the
bay and be shuttled from the ship to the wharf (ala Rosie's cruise
ship).
2:06 pm est 

Re: Don Diego

Don Diego de la Vega was Zorro.

What's next, Sgt. Garcia?
2:04 pm est 

January 22 Deadline For CPA Fund Application Proposals to CPC

"Seems like there are fewer and fewer who want CPA funds to
go just for town hall. Now can we get on to another subject? How
about us getting some ideas on bringing some famous people to town
for some special events this year and for the pilgrims coming to
Provincetown400 years ago! How about President & Mrs. Obama? (and of
course the kids!)"
--------------------------------------------------------------

January 22nd is the deadline for the proposals asking for funds to be
submitted to the CPC committee. Well, to the taxpayers--this is a
Major request.
2:02 pm est 

I'll Pay For Town Hall Repairs With My Taxes -

We have a very low tax rate I'll support affordable housing

Why - because I do have an investment in the community and wand to
see a healthy happy place that is better in the future than in the
past

So there....................
1:58 pm est 

Owing an Apology!

"It is amazing how someone can suggest cutting the Police
Dept by reducing the force and budget. It is obvious you have no clue
as to what it takes to make sure the town is adequately covered so
when citizens like yourself need a Police Officer, a Police Officer
is there. You also don't have any idea the time it takes to do a
report and or make sure the paper work for court is done and ready.

Allow me to also reflect back on an issue brought up about the summer
officers where some felt all they did was talk to girls,etc, etc. Go ahead and
cut them and when a situation arises where those summer cops normally
would be, do me a favor and dial 1-800-YOU. The Police are an easy
target until you need one."
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Attention: I'm going to copy what you said and send it to Police
Chief Jeff Jaran. This was not my intent.

I *never* wrote to reduce the force!! And about the budget--I *want*
the police budget supported.  I never wrote a word about summer
officers talking with girls. I actually want the town to terminate
the position of the housing specialist and give the money to the
police dept.

Actually. I sign my name to things. You are going to end up owing me
an apology because all I've done is support the police dept.

Michael Rogovsky
1:56 pm est 

Speak up Don't be Shy!

"Just look at the next posted BOS meetings. There is no
mention of any proposal being put forward by the selectmen to request
funds from the CPC for town hall renovations. The request for such
proposals have to be submitted by January 22nd."
--------------------------------------------------------------

I have contacted town hall twice and I've been informed that the B of
S is going to submit a proposal. Don't be shy about contacting them.
When I have questions or I disagree with something I contact the
person.

When I have an issue I contact people: I've spoken up at selectmen's
meetings, I met with Ted Malone, Rex Mc kinsey,--both real
gentlemen--contacted the B of S, called Jessica Waugh and various
people at town hall, contacted the attorney General's office, the
dept of Education legal dept and even our chief of police.

Even if you say something critical, you won't get your head bitten
off. The people who serve the town are valuable and concerned people
too. I've grown a lot as a citizen and I've learned to go to the top
person in charge. The town has very dedicated people working for it
and they work hard.

Michael Rogovsky
1:51 pm est 

BOS and CPC

To the previous poster. You are absolutely correct. I just checked
the agendas and there is no indication that the BOS will be
addressing a request to the CPC for Historic Funding (or any other
funding). The deadline for requests is January 22, 2009.

I feel that this omission and disregard of a very important
issue most disturbing and a real slap in the face towards the Taxpayers.

Knowing how Ms. Couture and Ms. Anderson stand on the affordable
housing platform, I never expected that the full 70% of available
funding to be requested for Town Hall restoration, but I certainly
anticipated a request of good faith on behalf of the Taxpayers. After
all, We are the fundraisers for the CPC.

I am unable to attend this Monday's meeting. Therefore, I will submit
a letter to the BOS to be read during Public Statements. I urge
Concerned Citizens to attend Monday's
meeting (6pm at VMS)and present your feelings during Public
Statements. If you cannot attend, please submit a
letter or an e-mail.

If I am wrong with my assumption, I stand to be corrected. If not, I
want to know "why and why not"?

Astrid Berg
1:47 pm est 

Moving on to Another Subject

Seems like there are fewer and fewer who want CPA funds to
go just for townhall. Now can we get on to another subject? How about
us getting some ideas on bringing some famous people to town for some
special events this year and for the pilgrims coming to Provincetown
400 years ago! How about President & Mrs. Obama? (and of course the
kids!)
11:55 am est 

Re: Cruise Ships

Please tell the bloggers what cruise line did not come
given the current security offered and whatcruise lines
will not come in the future because of security concerns.
I will follow it up and post my findings with references.

Still waiting....

cn
11:53 am est 

Dearest Bearing Witness

From what I see on this blog lately, is that the majority of people
have and will back affordable housing as long as more of the people
they love and are friends with keep having to move from Provincetown!
The affordable housing people are only fulfilling the wishes of the towns
people! Also attacking someone will only make more people back said
housing advocates!
11:50 am est 

Donald Diego?

GOOGLE HIM AND YOU'LL COME UP WITH NOTHING. Tell us about yourself
Donald Diego? Is that your alter ego? Pier Directors hiding behind
phony names. How apparent to all. You can't escape Ms. Nagle, she's
got you in her crosshairs!
11:48 am est 

Looks Like the BOS Will Not Be Presenting a Proposal For Town Hall Renovations

Just look at the next posted BOS meetings. There is no mention of any
proposal being put forward by the selectmen to request funds from the
CPC for town hall renovations. The request for such proposals have to
be submitted by January 22nd.

Looks like the affordable housing advocates--Michele Couture and
Elaine Anderson--will undermine town hall renovations request by not
putting one forward. Since neither of them are for using CPC monies
for town hall renovations, they can make certain the taxpayers pay
again for town hall renovations by keeping all the CPC monies for
affordable housing.

It is up to the BOS to submit a request. If they don't and Affordable
Housing cheerleader Couture refuses to post this on the agenda, she
will assure that no CPC monies will be used for town hall renovations.

Couture and Anderson seem to refuse to heed the general desire of
many in town to use CPC funds to renovate town hall. They are
undermining the wishes of many taxpayers and town residents.
11:35 pm est 

Slapping the Tiger


Word of caution to those that seek support of the voters
for Affordable Housing:

When your hand is in the Tiger's mouth, thats patting Time,
not slapping time.

You should be able to present your arguments without
attacking those who oppose you.

Tied of the rancor (a voter)
 

11:32 pm est 

Hiding Behind Smoke and Mirrors

You have to know that Mr. Ted Malone and the assorted minions of the
Affordable Housing advocacy are extremely nervous about the critizisims 
that have been raised on this blog.The unreasonable attacks against Michael
Rogovsky are testimony to their fear of the facts as presented.

Malone, in particular, is very fearful of the threat to his application for a
$500,000 grant (gift) from the very citizens he affronts. 

Name calling and defaming will not hide the truth of their intent.

Mr. Malone et al can try to discolor  the truth, but they cannot change the facts.


Respectfully,

Bearing Witness
11:23 pm est 

Attn: I disagree with Michael

It is amazing how someone can suggest cutting the Police Dept by
reducing the force and budget. It is obvious you have no clue as to
what it takes to make sure the town is adequately covered so when
citizens like yourself need a Police Officer, a Police Officer is
there. You also don't have any idea the time it takes to do a report
and or make sure the paper work for court is done and ready. Allow me
to also reflect back on an issue brought up about the summer officers
where some felt all they did was talk to girls,etc, etc. Go ahead and
cut them and when a situation arises where those summer cops noramlly
would be, do me a favor and dial 1-800-YOU. The Police are an easy
target until you need one.
11:04 pm est 

There is a Difference in Attacks

some are attacked, if you want to use that term, who are doing work
here in Provincetown and who take taxpayer money. They come before
boards and alsohave their own  paid workers sit on boards that
influence their work. Some are not satisfied with their work and the
conflict of interests some exhibit wantonly.

MIchael Rogosvsky is not on a board and does not request money from
the town. He is not building housing. He is not shaping the temper of
the town. To attack MIchael Rogovsky for his views, his opnions, his
insights is not tenable. And it is not the same as faulting the BOS,
the town manager or the chief of police or the affordable housing
developer.

It seems Michael is purposefully being attacked by those who
overwhelmingly make a profit from affordable housing, whether as
developer, office staff, managers of projects or forthcoming CPC
proposal presenters. It is as if Michael, with his energy,
determination, and willingness to blog with his own name threatens
some people who read and write here. Maybe there's much truth in his
blogging and that is what some fear and are trying to undermine by
undermining him.
11:02 pm est 

Better Use of Time

"The pier will be monitered 24/7 which might lead to a
decrease in man hours/money that the PPPC will not have to pay...."
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I'd rather the police use their time to find the arsonist!
Why do we have to pay to monitor the pier? Smoke and mirrors having
us foot the bill for pier security vs. the Ptown Pier management.

Give me a break!
11:01 pm est 

Saturday, January 10, 2009

Candace Tell the Whole Story:

"If the town is lucky enough to get the grant for the cameras that
will be monatored and recorded at the police station we will become a
designated cruise ship port.
Another revenue stream for the PPPC and the pier to say nothing of
the money that will be left in town by the passengers and in these
bad times...."

Stop Wasting Our Money
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The above post is an example of either a PPPC board member or pier
management anonymously posting the above. There were only two people
in the audience (a reporter and me) when the above agenda item came
up.

Director George Hitchock certainly didnt post the above because he
went on record that it was quote a waste of money, overkill and it
exposes us to having to comply with expensive federal regulations in
the future like making the pier handicap accessible according to ADA
requirements which it is not.

Not one director who voted for this unnecessary capital expenditure
stated there was even one cruise line who chose not to come here
because we werent a designated cruise port. Nor was there one
director who stated that a cruise line in the future would not come
to Provincetown because we are not a designated port with 22 security
cameras.

This is a typical example of money being spent without any thoughtful
analysis of return of capital.

To the director who posted the above, please tell the bloggers what
cruise line did not come given the current security offered and what
cruise lines will not come in the future because of security
concerns. I will follow it up and post my findings with references.

Save yourself a camera, do not put one near my float. If I want a
security camera, it wont be on the backs on Provincetown taxpayers. I
have been on the pier for five years without any incident that would
warrant a camera.

Candace Nagle

P.S.

The Finance Committee had asked the Pier Corp. July 7:

How many non-resident fishermen are docked on the east side of the
Pier? Are they eligible for the fishermens rate subsidized by
Provincetown.  If so, why?

The Pier Corp. responded in writing July 16:

There is not a residency requirement for the commercial fishers.
Previously, there had been Provincetown based fishers defined as
living in Provincetown or Truro.
The requirement was adjusted during negotiations with the Bos/Pro
Fish to living within 30 minutes of the pier in recognition of the
changing demographics.

Really? Tenants whose home addresses listed on their applications are
  New York and Vermont? Four private charter boats on the east side
revealed?  The Pier Corp. has proved time and time again they cant be
trusted to accurately answer questions.
10:59 pm est 

Think About it

If Astred,Candice and Mikey all stop writing on this blog,
would we all agree with each other on this blog??? Think about it!
10:54 pm est 

Hey! Mikey Likes it Too!

Now mikey loves the job the selectmen are doing! Hopefully he'll
agree that we need more affordable housing now also. If we wait
for others to build, they will only build million doller homes. Its better i
f the town builds the housing like at 90 Shank-Painter Road because if
we build it, it more likly will go to who we want it to go to!
10:53 pm est 

Uneven Protection

"i have to agree with the post regarding the uneven
protection offered to some under your policy. you can apparently say
anything about ted and anyone who supports affordable housing, but
call out mikey or candace and you get a bright red admonishment from
the webmaster. doesn't seem fair to me. so much for change."
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HI THERE,

Could i trouble you to copy, paste and post on the blog where the
webmaster has come to my rescue because of a mean spirited post?

If you can find one, I will write a check for $100.00 payable to the
Town of Provincetown and request it go toward affordable housing or
town hall.

Thanks,

Candace Nagle
10:51 pm est 

Re: Cruie Ships & The Pier Committee

The first thing necessary to become a "port o call" for a Major
Cruise Line is to be able to accomodate it's ship by meeting rigid
standards for the safety of it's passengers and it's Ship.Secondly
the destination would have to be of interest to it's passengers which
would make it marketable and profitable for the Cruise Owners, and
I'd say that Provincetown more than satisfies that requirement.After
having lived in this "one of a kind" seaside resort for many years,I
have seen the many improvements of MacMillan Wharf to facilitate this
much needed source of revenue,not just in fees but in having 1500
passengers disembark for a day of sightseeing and $pending of dollars
at Restaurants,Gift Shops,and on and on.I APPLAUDE the Pier
Commisssion for having the foresight and patience (against so many
naysayers)to allow Provincetown to move ahead and become competitive
in that never ending chase for the tourist buck.BUILD IT AND THEY
WILL COME!!!!!!

Donald Diego
10:49 pm est 

Re: Michael Rogovsky

sorry mikey. i don't think it's about you. i didn't get the
impression the poster said you did the name calling. it's the way the
policy is enforced.
1:56 pm est 

Re:Town Vehicle/Personal Use

Sorry, quick answer is no, not covered and yes if an accident occurs.
Personal use does not mean passengers allowed.
1:44 pm est 

Re; Town Vehicle/Personal Use

Quick answer; no.
1:42 pm est 

The Webmaster and This Site Are a Joke

.......and allow some in town to be continually trashed, while
others are protected like the children they are...
yuck.
1:42 pm est 

I Disagree With Michael.

The Police Department in Provincetown has gotten out of control. This
isn't a new thing, it's been happening for the past 8-10 years. We don't
need more officers, in fact we should be cutting the department and their
budget in half. Less is more. Our community doesn't need a big city police
force. Our community doesn't need motorcycle cops. Our community doesn't
need countless summer police officers on every corner just wasting payroll.

We need to start cutting back. We need to cut spending. The police
department is a great place to start.

I like this new Police Chief, I think he's a good man for the job
however it's time to give him a real task, tell him to cut the fat
and start working with 50% less. Tell him no more fancy fun toys like
motorcycles or new police cruisers. The end result would be exactly
the same.
1:40 pm est 

Blocked?

so I have been blocked?? for simply saying someone was a jerk?

Webmaster Comment: You have not been blocked. as witness the posting
of your previous comments. You have however been admonished as to the limits
and contraints spelled out as to MYPACC policy.
1:37 pm est 

Uneven Protection

i have to agree with the post regarding the uneven
protection offered to some under your policy. you can apparently say
anything about ted and anyone who supports affordable housing, but
call out mikey or candace and you get a bright red admonishment from
the webmaster. doesn't seem fair to me. so much for change.
1:31 pm est 

You Don't Get Cruise Ships By 24/7 Monitoring

Even being designated does nothing if you can't market this town. And
I don't see this pier corp able to marketing for the 21st century.
They'll be lucky if they two cruise ships. It takes work, connections
and they just don't have it. Welcome the Whale boats and consider
yourself lucky.
1:30 pm est 

Re: Mr. Michael Rogovsky

"Isn't it funny how AJ, Rex, Malone etc. can be trashed
unendingly on here with no webmaster warning; but if Mikey is called
out, the webmaster will admonish you??
Please, the things you have allowed to be stated about AJ and Ted
Malone on this blog are down right smears... all I did was call Mike
ya      and a artist who paints more salaciously than anything
else,i.e., he is simply a              passing himself off as a fine
artist, and sorry, but he does seem quite simpleminded... is calling
him this worse than calling Malone a crook; or AJ a crook? Or the
entire Pier Corp crooks?You don't go to jailfor being an idiot, but
lives can be ruined being repeatedly, publicly called a criminal.Be
fair here webmaster, what's good for the goose is good for the gander
as they say.
sign me:
Mikey Hater"
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What a shock to read this. I met with Ted Malone and I went down to
the pier to talk with Rex and I've introduced myself to AJ--I would
never in a million years call them crooks! What a terrible thing for
you to accuse me of saying. I've been complimentary about Ted Malone
for using Existing Properties..and turning them into affordable
housing, as a matter of Fact--and I sent him a funny Christmas card!

I've met folks on the Pier Corps and one has been to my openings!

I admire Rex's presence and wish that I had his voice and delivery
presence when speaking in public! What a schock that someone hates me
for writing on here.
Have you shown this to Rex and Ted and to AJ--is this how they feel
about me too?--I can't believe it. I don't even know AJ.

Michael Rogovsky
1:27 pm est 

Puleeeeeze!

Isn't it funny how AJ, Rex, Malone etc. can be trashed unendingly on
here with no webmaster warning; but if Mikey is called out, the
webmaster will admonish you??

Please, the things you have allowed to be stated about AJ and Ted
Malone on this blog are down right smears... all I did was call Mikey
     and a artist who paints more salaciously than anything else,
i.e., he is simply a              passing himself off as a fine
artist, and sorry, but he does seem quite simpleminded... is calling
him this worse than calling Malone a crook; or AJ a crook? Or the
entire Pier Corp crooks?
You don't go to jail for being an idiot, but lives can be ruined by
being repeatedly, publicly called a criminal.
Be fair here webmaster, what's good for the goose is goiod for the
gander as they say.
sign me:

Mikey Hater

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Please read MYPACC policy.

Thank you 
 
10:55 am est 

Use of Housing Specialist Funds

January 12,2006 Cape Cod Times:

Town Manager Keith Bergman said a housing specialist position could
be funded by the towns affordable housing trust fund, which receives
the 10 percent of land bank funds set aside for affordable housing,
and currently has a balance of approximately $220,000.

The trust fund will draw approximately $30,000 per year for the next
15 years, said Bergman, but the money can also be used for other
costs related to increasing affordable housing in Provincetown.

Sandy Hill is a going concern, 90 Shank Painter Rd. is going to be
developed. We do not need to fund this position any more.

We already have a Housing Authority Executive Director: Eliminate the
position of the community housing specialist paid for with taxpayer's
money and invest the money in Public works, the police department,
the water department that benefits all of Provincetown.

Michael Rogovsky
10:46 am est 

Affordable Housing is All About You

It's about funding a way to have stable year round residents.

The money is there and committed.   Tell the CPC to spend it.  From
Town Meeting it is clear they have about $1.5 million committed for
affordable housing.   THIS CANNOT BE SPENT ON ANYTHING ELSE.

Make the CPC spend the money.

We need to have stable year round housing for year round residents.

Again, make the CPC spend the money.
10:43 am est 

Re: Use of CPA Funds

Town meeting only voted to go back to the CPA FUNDING
PERCENTAGES of 10% historical, 10% Affordable Houseing, 10% Open
Space/Recreation. the other 70% will go partly or fully to any of the
three or to hold on to said funds for another year! This is decided
only by the CPC for any of the above to be taken to and voted for on
town floor. Nobody voted any money from the CDC yet. No proposals
have come in yet.
10:41 am est 

May I Ask: If the Banner Reduces Its Pages Anymore

will it still be a weekly paper? Now the second section has been
subsummed into the first section and the second is only real estate.
That leave maybe three or four pages for Provincetown news, maybe.
There's nothing much left, is there?

Perhaps a pretense that it is still a Provincetown paper. It has
spread itself across four towns and yet gives us less and less.

No more Separate Entertainment section. No more focus on what is
happening here. Perhaps it is over. There is no Advocate. There is
no Banner. It is something else that doesn't yet have a name.
10:40 am est 

Monkey Bar

I own a year round non-restaurant business.  I am constantly asked in
the summer for restaurant recommendations.  My first referrals are to
the year round businesses.  Fannizzis, Mews, Napis, Crowne Pointe,
Michael Shays.

I never refer people to the Monkey Bar/Thai Restaurant and I tell
people why.  They come into town and take all they can and then run
as fast as they can.  Tourist abuse plain and simple.  I don't care
how good the food is, i steer people away from them.  Good will goes
a long way in this town.

And HELLO, who looks good in black lights?
10:38 am est 

Re: Seashore Point

"And as for all the negative comments about Seashore
Point and the 'failed  phase two'....get over yourselves. It's a
beautiful building where the residents get superlative care. Phase
two will come when....
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Any new building residential, commercial, assisted living etc. that
only sells 50% of its units is a FAILED PROJECT.

Another lame brain selectmen idea not well thought out.

let's see:

1. you live there?
2. you are on the list?
3. a relative lives there?
4. you voted for it?????
10:37 am est 

Candace Tell the Whole Story:

If the town is lucky enough to get the grant for the cameras that
will be monitered and recorded at the police station we will become a
designated cruise ship port.
Another revenue stream for the PPPC and the pier to say nothing of
the money that will be left in town by the passengers and in these
bad times it would seem that the people that own or pay rent for
shops that help the property owners pay thier taxes might be a good
thing for everyone.
The pier will be monitered 24/7 which might lead to a decrease in man
hours/money that the PPPC will not have to pay lessening the burden
for the taxpayers that you are always screaming about. The PPPC did
not set the rate policy for the fisherman the selectman did many
years ago before you arrived and bought your float space for your
recreational boat.
10:34 am est 

Town Vehicle/Personal Use

As a tax payer im really concerned about a Town Vehicle being used
for personal use. I understand that the Fire chief Micheal Trovato is
using the Chiefs vehicle to bring his children back and forth to
school in town as well as to school activities up cape. Question...
does the towns insurance cover these children or are we heading to
another incident that could lead to a lawsuit.